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Meridius
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Posted - 2005.05.04 03:38:00 -
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Edited by: Meridius on 04/05/2005 03:37:59
 Originally by: Letifer Deus
Not to mention whining that Deimos has more HP than zealot is utterly stupid. Compare Zealot hp to Ishtar or Vagabond HP. And compare Sac HP to Deimos...
Why? They are both damage dealing ships.
The Sacrilege is a piece of ****, also. Only naive people get impressed by its tanking ability.
We really only have 1 usefull HAC.
I know the Deimos and Ishtar rock, i've heard people say good things about the Muninn and Vagabond.
You know the Eagle is good and the Cerb = missile changes.
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Liet Traep
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Posted - 2005.05.04 03:42:00 -
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I'd much rather see zealot get another turret slot and more pg and cpu so it can fit 5 heavy beam 2's.
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Letifer Deus
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Posted - 2005.05.04 03:46:00 -
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Edited by: Letifer Deus on 04/05/2005 03:52:08
Originally by: Meridius
Edited by: Meridius on 04/05/2005 03:37:59
Originally by: Letifer Deus
Not to mention whining that Deimos has more HP than zealot is utterly stupid. Compare Zealot hp to Ishtar or Vagabond HP. And compare Sac HP to Deimos...
Why? They are both damage dealing ships.
Because that is how ALL of the HACs are setup. The HACs based on the higher tier cruisers have more HP.
On top of this the Deimos ONLY has more HP than zealot because of structure, and let's be honest, structure is crap (especially crap because HACs have bonus to armor/shield resistances.) Zealot has the most armor, and more armor = more effective armor tanking.
OK, so the HP whining should be done now, ok? 
Originally by: Liet Traep
I'd much rather see zealot get another turret slot and more pg and cpu so it can fit 5 heavy beam 2's.
So you want to have a HAC that can to 320dmg/sec with a single heat sink 2 with MF from outside of 20km? Yeah, that is real balanced. I don't have my stacking penalty spreadsheet here, but I can only imagine the DOT on 5x heavy beam 2s and 7x heat sink 2s. 
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Selim
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Posted - 2005.05.04 04:14:00 -
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I truly can't believe that people think the zealot is underpowered. 7 lowslots, extremely easy to fit (almost to the point of absurdity), great damage and indeed it has good tanking potential, which is always, always overlooked. Its definitely a better tank than the vagabond, and probably the cerberus, for example, while outdamaging both and indeed its actually the second fastest/lightest heavy cruiser (to the vagabond (actually, maybe third - to the muninn - cant remember offhand)).
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Letifer Deus
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Posted - 2005.05.04 05:18:00 -
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Originally by: Selim
I truly can't believe that people think the zealot is underpowered. 7 lowslots, extremely easy to fit (almost to the point of absurdity), great damage and indeed it has good tanking potential, which is always, always overlooked. Its definitely a better tank than the vagabond, and probably the cerberus, for example, while outdamaging both and indeed its actually the second fastest/lightest heavy cruiser (to the vagabond (actually, maybe third - to the muninn - cant remember offhand)).
I agree
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Gariuys
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Posted - 2005.05.04 05:42:00 -
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You have 7 low slots, wth is the problem with running a RCU and thermal hardener in those lows. a RCU to get a med armor rep, all long range weapons and a MWD is pretty much a given on any ship going for long range. Which is good, cause a long ranger has to sacrifice something to fit a mwd. It's a short rangers module. And yes Amarr don't get a free hardener for thermal. So you have to fit a hardener. Which HAC doesn't need to fit atleast one hardener to round out their damage types?
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Cracken
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Posted - 2005.05.04 06:13:00 -
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Edited by: *****en on 04/05/2005 06:14:52
look at the numbers they clear it up rather nicely zealot still has an insane dps and you want too make it more insane jesus talk about throwing balance out the window. someone calc dps with 5 hpII and radio and mf crystals.
The thing is with the zealots current dps why are you complaining who wants a 700 dps! zealot not me we don't need another a minigankageddon. (Yes I pulled the dps out of my ass too prove a point.)
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Julien Derida
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Posted - 2005.05.04 06:23:00 -
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Pulling numbers out of your ass is a really crappy way of proving a point.
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Minuz1
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Posted - 2005.05.04 06:31:00 -
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Originally by: Julien Derida
Pulling numbers out of your ass is a really crappy way of proving a point.
ROFLMAO
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Cracken
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Posted - 2005.05.04 06:35:00 -
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Edited by: *****en on 04/05/2005 06:34:48
Originally by: Julien Derida
Pulling numbers out of your ass is a really crappy way of proving a point.
nuff said
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Minuz1
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Posted - 2005.05.04 07:14:00 -
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back to the topic, how about getting the cap useage decrease switched out for a tracking boost on the zealot, or a "reduce signiture resolution of medium lasers"
As someone said, I'm a lazy amarr pilot who just uses f1-f8 on my poc.....which is totally unfair because Raven pilots only have to use f1-f6!
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Sherkaner
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Posted - 2005.05.04 07:19:00 -
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Locked because of continued flaming/trolling after thread cleanup. 
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