GǪexcept that it is indeed a fact. You do not have to push a button every time you sneeze. Not only because the EVE UI isn't sneeze-sensitive, but also because nothing in the game requires you to keep pushing that button.

Except jumping. And undocking. Quite rare situations yeah? It's a module you either have or don't. When you roam you always activate the DC because you never know when you are jumped. Maybe we should have to "raise shields" every time we drop out of warp too, it's only one click that needs to be done when you suspect danger.

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The only productive thing people did with them is stuff them in a reprocessing plant after looting them from NPCs, and the poor bastards who "won" a T2 bpo for that piece of garbage probably sold them for peanuts before the changes that made them worth something

Except jumping. And undocking. Quite rare situations yeah? It's a module you either have or don't. When you roam you always activate the DC because you never know when you are jumped. Maybe we should have to "raise shields" every time we drop out of warp too, it's only one click that needs to be done when you suspect danger.

I don't really see why it matters one way or another. It would be nice if we could set modules to retain their activation status after a jump, but its really a non-issue.

(And for everyone whining this request is Lazy, Every jump you should have to reset your safety settings, yes, every jump, it's only a couple of clicks, where is the problem, it's not like people are complaining they have to reset them ONCE PER LOGIN currently or anything like that.)

So how is it any different from any other mods? If you are that paranoid surely you have to turn on all your hardeners every jump as well?

Hardeners are situational. You don't activate explosive hardeners when fighting Amarr lazorz. Damage Control is however NOT situational. It behaves like a passive module that has to be turned on to circumvent a code issue.

You don't leave your guns on and forget about them until the fight is over.

Except jumping. And undocking.

Hardeners are situational.

...exactly like the DC. If the situation doesn't call for it, it's pointless to turn it on, and complaining about your decision to repeatedly do something that is pointless only provides an argument for not doing those pointless things. Your inability to keep your fingers off the module is not a reason to change that module.

You think the DC is situational in a fight?

The fact remains, there are no situation where you explicitly do not want your DC to be on.

Quite clearly you have never camped two gates in nullsec with several characters at once before.

Try understanding the situation of others before stating opinions as facts.

Sure I have. That was one situation. Setting aside for a moment that there is no need to turn the DC on after every jump even in that case, it's still just that: a situation -- one among many. It doesn't change the fact that the DC is situational. If anything, it just further illustrates it.

Try understanding what "situational" means before ignoring facts just because they clash with your opinion.

You think the DC is situational in a fight? I surely don't.
As others have mentioned, it should have a meaning and a purpose to turn it off or on when it is an active module. The fact remains, there are no situation where you explicitly do not want your DC to be on. Reasons are obvious but I'll state them; it uses basically no cap and it gives a great boost to your ship. Why would you want to turn it off? To die faster? Well then, don't fit a tank!

I don't know how you play eve, but the way I play it, it is really annoying to have to activate it all the time, and yes, it is all the damn time when you camp two sides of a gate and chase people back and forth and get fights on both sides all the time.

You think the DC is situational in a fight? I surely don't.
As others have mentioned, it should have a meaning and a purpose to turn it off or on when it is an active module. The fact remains, there are no situation where you explicitly do not want your DC to be on. Reasons are obvious but I'll state them; it uses basically no cap and it gives a great boost to your ship. Why would you want to turn it off? To die faster? Well then, don't fit a tank!

I don't know how you play eve, but the way I play it, it is really annoying to have to activate it all the time, and yes, it is all the damn time when you camp two sides of a gate and chase people back and forth and get fights on both sides all the time.

You mean other than the need to activate it every jump because the only reason you jump is to fight? Again, try to understand the situation.


"Position or status with regard to conditions and circumstances."
"of, relating to, or appropriate to a situation"

Appropriate to a situation. By definition, there needs to be a situation where it is inappropriate. Tell me a situation where it is appropriate to not have the DC active.

Just how much combat are you in that you need to turn on your dc "all teh time" cos i want to be there.

You know.... I think we need to look at the Damage Control too:

It effectively Doubles (or more) your effective structure HP. This basically adds a few hundred to a 1+m HP to your ship.
It increases your armor resists by 10-15%, and importantly, doesn't STACK with other resist modifier effects.
It increases your Shield Resists by 7.5-12.5%, and importantly, doesn't STACK with other resist modifier effects.

It costs 1 PG, 15-40 CPU, requires 1 Cap Pt to activate, and has a 30 second activation cycle.

The activation cycle is "soo long" that it inhibits you from logging off, so your solution is to make this module Passive? Really????

No... This module is extremely potent and of significant benefit to your ship.... It should NOT be made passive...

Instead, reduce its cycle time to 5 seconds or less. Now it won't hinder you logging off, it is more susceptible to being turned off by Energy Neutralizers.

But wait... there's more:

The opinion, "it should have a meaning and a purpose to turn it off or on when it is an active module" has some validity. As such, the cap usage of the DCU should be increased too. It should have it's activation increased to match it's duration, such that the DCU uses 1 cap / s (as opposed to 0.03333 cap / s). This way, just like an armor hardener, there is a meaning and purpose to "turning it on or keeping it off"; i.e. to save capacitor.

Is this not fair? It means an awesome module that provides awesome benefits actually has a reasonable cost and it allows you to log off quickly!!!

You mean other than the need to activate it every jump because the only reason you jump is to fight? Again, try to understand the situation.


"Position or status with regard to conditions and circumstances."
"of, relating to, or appropriate to a situation"

Appropriate to a situation. By definition, there needs to be a situation where it is inappropriate. Tell me a situation where it is appropriate to not have the DC active.

any time you are not taking damage .....

Just how much combat are you in that you need to turn on your dc "all teh time" cos i want to be there.

It's still more appropriate to keep it on in case you will take damage. This is Eve you know....

How about... when you're not being shot at?

Running it otherwise is like running your car's headlights in broad daylight. Sure, it accomplishes nothing, it doesn't waste battery because it's being recharged by the alternator, but in the end, the situation doesn't call for them to be on. Headlights are situational, appropriate to the situation of night time. Just like DC is appropriate to the situation of combat. It takes nought but a fraction of a second to get it activated when someone starts targeting you, and so you'll have it well and truly running by the time they start shooting.

Unless, of course, you're not paying attention, in which case DC won't save you anyway and you probably deserve to explode.

I don't know where you are from, but in my country it's illegal to drive without headlights, ever. So I'll twist your words and say you think that a passive DC should be mandatory. Peace yo!