If you can not take the effort to push a simple key then you lazy as hell.


Yes the DCU is kind of annoying when you are trying to "Safe Logoff" but personally if you are THAT PARANOID you have to safe log off then you can wait 60 seconds so your **** can stay in 1 piece then being blown up

to clarify btw

When you safe log off this will happen

1. A 30 Second Timer will show up, your ship will not move during this time.
2. Once this timer reaches 0 , your client will disconnect.
3. Your ship will THEN INITIATE EMERGENCY WARP (If anything was stopping you from warping you would not be able to safe log off)
4. After your ship EXITS EMERGENCY WARP it will disappear immediately

When you log off normally

1. Your Client disconnects Regardless what is happening in the game world ( Modules, PVP Timers , Warp scramblers)
2. Your Ship will attempt to initiate emergency warp if anything stops it , it wont do anything for 15 minutes (Because somthings prolly warp scraming you.)
3. After your ship exits emergency warp it will SIT IN SPACE FOR 30 SECONDS 1 MILLION KM FROM WHERE YOU LOGGED OFF IN A RANDOM DIRECTION, ANYTHING DURING THE 30 SECONDS MEANS YOU CAN BE PROBED THEN KILLED , ROBBED , RAPED and PILLAGED
4. After 30 seconds have passed and someone hasnt probed you down And Attacked you your ship disspears from space =)

if you really cant be bothered to push your DCU Every time you jump a gate, then your prolly to lazy to cloak your ship every time you jump a gate in a viator with 2 billion isk worth of ****

Since those two are each other's opposites, nope.

Nope. Why would I be?

You're confusing me with someone else. I haven't complained about AFKing or about not being able to neut it off, so I have no idea what you're on about.

I just see no reason why it should be made passive, much less a reason that outweighs the problems with such a change. At the same time, I see no reason why it should be nerfed GÇö it's not like it's horribly overpowered in its current state or causing any real issues.

People don't see the problem with DC being an active module? Really?

The reason it should be changed to one or the other is to improve gameplay.

But I agree with the OP's notion that it would benefit from a change in the future if CCP get that chance.

In what way?

How so? Why does it need either a buff or a nerf? What's wrong with its current state?

tbh most important thing about dc being active is it stops cloaked ships using it.

Cloaked ships wouldn't be taking damage anyway?

The reasons are obvious if you think them through.

Cloaked ships wouldn't be taking damage anyway?

If you can not take the effort to push a simple key then you lazy as hell.


Yes the DCU is kind of annoying when you are trying to "Safe Logoff" but personally if you are THAT PARANOID you have to safe log off then you can wait 60 seconds so your **** can stay in 1 piece then being blown up

to clarify btw

When you safe log off this will happen

1. A 30 Second Timer will show up, your ship will not move during this time.
2. Once this timer reaches 0 , your client will disconnect.
3. Your ship will THEN INITIATE EMERGENCY WARP (If anything was stopping you from warping you would not be able to safe log off)
4. After your ship EXITS EMERGENCY WARP it will disappear immediately

When you log off normally

1. Your Client disconnects Regardless what is happening in the game world ( Modules, PVP Timers , Warp scramblers)
2. Your Ship will attempt to initiate emergency warp if anything stops it , it wont do anything for 15 minutes (Because somthings prolly warp scraming you.)
3. After your ship exits emergency warp it will SIT IN SPACE FOR 30 SECONDS 1 MILLION KM FROM WHERE YOU LOGGED OFF IN A RANDOM DIRECTION, ANYTHING DURING THE 30 SECONDS MEANS YOU CAN BE PROBED THEN KILLED , ROBBED , RAPED and PILLAGED
4. After 30 seconds have passed and someone hasnt probed you down And Attacked you your ship disspears from space =)

if you really cant be bothered to push your DCU Every time you jump a gate, then your prolly to lazy to cloak your ship every time you jump a gate in a viator with 2 billion isk worth of ****

Ok, so what are they?
What's wrong with its current state?
How would changing it improve gameplay?

For one, you don't have to push a button every time you sneeze.

Except you are wrong. When the timer hits zero the client even tells you your ship has been removed from space. Obviously you have not used this feature.

Afk haulers who wish to use blockade runners complaining they can't use DCU while active ITT.

So because it could be used on afk haulers in high sec the rest of the players actively playing the game have to endure pointless extra clicking?

So many of you have no imagination. At all.

Wondering that myself since i have been playing since 2003 and can't remember it ever being different, but then maybe i just wasn't using them cos they were crap.

oh boy story time!

I don't have any hard stats on hand but I do remember the old DC

They increased the hitpoints of modules fitted to your ship by a percentage

Yes, you read that right, they increased the structure hitpoints of modules. Not your ship. The modules fitted to your ship.
This was the only thing they did.

This was before the ability to overload your modules, where something like that might have been useful, and the only situation where your modules started taking random damage was when your ship was deep in hull. They were basically the single most useless category of items in the game, fitting a full rack of civilian guns would have done your ship more good than fitting any number of damage controls to your lows.

The only productive thing people did with them is stuff them in a reprocessing plant after looting them from NPCs, and the poor bastards who "won" a T2 bpo for that piece of garbage probably sold them for peanuts before the changes that made them worth something

I hope you all enjoyed that mostly irrelevant history lesson as much as I did writing it

GǪa problem that doesn't exist to begin with.

This is not a fact, it's your opinion, and it brings nothing to this discussion really.

GǪexcept that it is indeed a fact. You do not have to push a button every time you sneeze. Not only because the EVE UI isn't sneeze-sensitive, but also because nothing in the game requires you to keep pushing that button.

You need to turn your DC on at one point and one point only: when it's about to get ugly. This is not the same as GÇ£alwaysGÇ¥. Thus, you don't need to push any buttons at every opportunity. You don't have to activate your DC any more often than you do, say, a missile launcher.

Let me point it out for you all:
The pity is most of you have no clue how important a DC is on small ships like FR and DE and most of you have no clue what heated dual small neuts can cause.

Hard Fact is a small heated neut cycles every 5.1s, with 2 shifted neuts that means every 2.55s you will be drained of cap that effectively shuts an active DC down on most FR or DE sooner or later.
Combat in small ships is very often a game of cap. Cap managment in small ships is very important and the decision you make is a do or die because many FR have only cap for about ~1:30min with all mods active, very few have more.

A passive DC is a very bad idea for small ship combat where it matters the most.