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Tr1cky The
FATAL Warfare Reckless Faith
16
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Posted - 2012.12.23 12:45:00 -
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The age old question ... what next ?
Does ccp reset everything and we start all over again ?
Does ccp just .. reballance FW and then start all over again ?
Or we simply just continue with one side at t5 100% and the other side ... struggles to try to take back systems and flip the tables ...
I am ever so curious aswell i think most of us are actually |
Othran
Route One
272
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Posted - 2012.12.23 12:58:00 -
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CCP don't do anything and nor should they.
The same happens in null - someone "wins" and over the course of months loses their active players as everyone gets bored. Then someone else "wins".
Rinse/repeat ad nauseum. |
Tr1cky The
FATAL Warfare Reckless Faith
16
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Posted - 2012.12.23 13:00:00 -
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personaly i don't think it will be like null .. for one if one faction wins .. then they will be at t5 which means lps will be magical .. so money will be made alot and even if they won't have wt's to fight its still low sec .. and pirates are many
thats just my oppinion .. |
Othran
Route One
273
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Posted - 2012.12.23 13:24:00 -
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Tr1cky The wrote:personaly i don't think it will be like null .. for one if one faction wins .. then they will be at t5 which means lps will be magical .. so money will be made alot and even if they won't have wt's to fight its still low sec .. and pirates are many
thats just my oppinion ..
When someone "wins" in null they get tech moons amongst other things. They run at 15-16bill a month last I looked so its really nothing to do with isk after a certain period of time.
Also the days of FW LP farming making billions a week are over - there are now more profitable things to be doing - so people won't stay if they aren't entertained.
People have "won" Eve before - where are they now? Most got bored and left.... |
Zarnak Wulf
Imperial Outlaws
783
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Posted - 2012.12.23 13:41:00 -
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Here is what happens:
The losers trim the fat. Complainers. Defeatists. People who refuse to fly 'x' ship or get in a plex at all. They head for the door. Those that are left are committed to winning and are open to new ideas and teamwork. The remnants get more organized and that organization in turn attracts new blood.
The winners struggle to keep it together. Individual pilots who want 'gudfights' may defect for the opposition. People get bored and log in less frequently. An influx of farmers garners resentment. Internal wardecs poisons the militia. Whole corps or even alliances might quit to greener pastures. |
kraiklyn Asatru
T.R.I.A.D
79
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Posted - 2012.12.23 13:48:00 -
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Zarnak Wulf wrote:Here is what happens:
The losers trim the fat. Complainers. Defeatists. People who refuse to fly 'x' ship or get in a plex at all. They head for the door. Those that are left are committed to winning and are open to new ideas and teamwork. The remnants get more organized and that organization in turn attracts new blood.
The winners struggle to keep it together. Individual pilots who want 'gudfights' may defect for the opposition. People get bored and log in less frequently. An influx of farmers garners resentment. Internal wardecs poisons the militia. Whole corps or even alliances might quit to greener pastures.
This, I want that medal ( duh ) I do fear this will happen, despite the fact that I love RP. If we win faction warfare ill be tempted to go conquer or harass other useless space ( Provi) |
Opera Noir
Inglorious-Basterds The Bloody Ronin Syndicate
24
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Posted - 2012.12.23 13:55:00 -
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You get a shiny medal. 2 years later they change the mechanics and hand a victory to your opponents. That way everyone gets a medal. It's only fair. |
ALUCARD 1208
Spiritus Draconis Sicarius Draconis
4
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Posted - 2012.12.23 15:10:00 -
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what 2 yrs ago wen caldari could take every plex just after downtime with no resistance ya that was fair....... idiot |
JaneBudden
Spiritus Draconis Sicarius Draconis
4
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Posted - 2012.12.23 15:12:00 -
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Opera Noir wrote:You get a shiny medal. 2 years later they change the mechanics and hand a victory to your opponents. That way everyone gets a medal. It's only fair.
so you are saying: making the plex mechanics more fair is to make the other side win ( btw. make more really low dps spawns ccp the farming became worse again)
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Cromwell Savage
Quantum Cats Syndicate Samurai Pizza Cats
95
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Posted - 2012.12.23 15:32:00 -
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It's called - stop living in hi-sec! |
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Bienator II
madmen of the skies
1243
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Posted - 2012.12.23 16:46:00 -
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winning is only temporary. I don't think you can defend the space without unreasonable effort, like organized farming with alts and stuff. The more space your oponent has the easier is it for you to take space. Its already self balancing. a eve-style bounty system https://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=posts&m=359105 You fail you fail you fail you fail you fail you fail you fail to jump because you are cloaked |
AndromacheDarkstar
The Forsworn Protectorate Imperial Protectorate
315
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Posted - 2012.12.23 17:07:00 -
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Topical seeing as this is likely to happen to two factions over the christmas period if they (we) cant get our **** together rather promptly The Forsworn Protectorate-áAmarr Militia Corp Recruiting EU TZ PVP pilots now Also Looking for EU PVP corps to join-áa growing-áAmarr-áFW-áalliance
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Mutnin
SQUIDS.
291
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Posted - 2012.12.23 17:28:00 -
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ALUCARD 1208 wrote:what 2 yrs ago wen caldari could take every plex just after downtime with no resistance ya that was fair....... idiot
I never knew that Galente were not aloud to log in & undock after DT. Guess you learn something new each day.. |
Opera Noir
Inglorious-Basterds The Bloody Ronin Syndicate
24
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Posted - 2012.12.23 17:28:00 -
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ALUCARD 1208 wrote:what 2 yrs ago wen caldari could take every plex just after downtime with no resistance ya that was fair....... idiot Oh noe! You mad... |
Bienator II
madmen of the skies
1243
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Posted - 2012.12.23 18:18:00 -
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AndromacheDarkstar wrote:Topical seeing as this is likely to happen to two factions over the christmas period if they (we) cant get our **** together rather promptly the hope is still there that a multiboxer without life switches sides by accidently loging in with the wrong set of alts over the holidays. a eve-style bounty system https://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=posts&m=359105 You fail you fail you fail you fail you fail you fail you fail to jump because you are cloaked |
ALUCARD 1208
Spiritus Draconis Sicarius Draconis
4
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Posted - 2012.12.23 19:47:00 -
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Mutnin wrote:ALUCARD 1208 wrote:what 2 yrs ago wen caldari could take every plex just after downtime with no resistance ya that was fair....... idiot I never knew that Galente were not aloud to log in & undock after DT. Guess you learn something new each day..
well it fitted u guys perfectly so drama and his 40 alts could get into all the plexes in our off time, now its even plexes at anytime. u guys cry bout the ustz being too strong but dont see that u have advantages in other timezones this is not ccps fault its caldari militias fault, u guys are so fractioned and hate each other so much were as gallentes pull together and get the job done..... simplez
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Shaalira D'arc
Quantum Cats Syndicate Samurai Pizza Cats
565
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Posted - 2012.12.23 21:03:00 -
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Since the inception of FW and right up to the Retribution expansion, the Caldari militia has been supported by the crutch of NPC imbalance.
It is hard to understate the strategic advantage one side possesses when they can speed-tank every single one of the other side's plexes in a PvP frigate. Especially when the other side, when they try to play offense, must either destroy the rats because of missile spam and overwhelming ECM, or use PvE fits with enough tank to last.
A similar imbalance, albeit to a lesser extent, existed on the Minmatar / Amarr front. A pvp rifter could ignore the rats' laser light show; Amarrians had to contend with missile spam from the Minmatar rats.
Post-Retribution, it's equally easy for all four sides to rake in plexes with NPCs playing a minimal role in the occupancy war.
In other words, it's now up to the players. |
Mutnin
SQUIDS.
291
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Posted - 2012.12.23 21:32:00 -
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Ahh so when it's bad for Caldari it's "Caldari's" fault but when it's bad for Gallente it's once again "Caldari's" fault.
When you guys have numbers advantage it's Caldari should recruit more blahh blahh blahh. When Caldari have numbers advantage it's obviously broken game mechanics that let us win.
I see where this is going.. |
Opera Noir
Inglorious-Basterds The Bloody Ronin Syndicate
24
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Posted - 2012.12.23 21:37:00 -
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Shaalira D'arc wrote: Post-Retribution, it's equally easy for all four sides to rake in plexes with NPCs playing a minimal role in the occupancy war.
In other words, it's now up to the players.
Either way plexing is as tedious as it has always been. Although I'm glad they have balanced it out more, they really should come up with a more interesting mechanic, imo. Don't know if they can though.
In any case, the effects of winning the war will probably be the same for the Gallente as it was for the Caldari farm fest that happened when missions were introduced. The value of the LP will tank, which will probably only be a problem if they start to lose tiers, which seems unlikely for the time being. Oh and of course the Frogs will have plenty places to dock and Squids will have very few. |
Shaalira D'arc
Quantum Cats Syndicate Samurai Pizza Cats
565
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Posted - 2012.12.23 21:54:00 -
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Mutnin wrote:Yet you cry about old plex mechanics as if it somehow gave Caldari a advantage, all the while ignoring the great advantage you now have as if 100s of farmer alts aren't doing the work for you. At least when Caldari took all your systems it was done people that were out there to have PVP, not armies of T1 frigs that run at first site of combat.
Confirming that plexing alts never existed prior to Inferno, and that no one had ever speed-tanked Gallente and Amarrian plexes with stabbed, gun-less frigs using alts.
Never ever.
The big difference is that militia members now get paid for plexing and PvP, encouraging more people to regularly participate than that handful of die-hards (and their alts) who care a lot about dots on a map. |
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Mutnin
SQUIDS.
291
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Posted - 2012.12.23 22:18:00 -
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Shaalira D'arc wrote:Mutnin wrote:Yet you cry about old plex mechanics as if it somehow gave Caldari a advantage, all the while ignoring the great advantage you now have as if 100s of farmer alts aren't doing the work for you. At least when Caldari took all your systems it was done people that were out there to have PVP, not armies of T1 frigs that run at first site of combat. Confirming that plexing alts never existed prior to Inferno, and that no one had ever speed-tanked Gallente and Amarrian plexes with stabbed, gun-less frigs using alts. Never ever. The big difference is that militia members now get paid for plexing and PvP, encouraging more people to regularly participate than that handful of die-hards (and their alts) who care a lot about dots on a map.
There was no where near the numbers there are today. Back then it was a limited handful of guys that had a few alts. Now you have hundreds of them running around so it's not even close to the same comparison. Added to this in the past even if they were alts their mains were still involved in FW and it's likely their main would show up for some PVP if you harassed the alts enough.
Now it's just ISK farmers that have little to nothing to do with FW and they just bounce around system to system til you get tired of chasing them.
It's not even remotely close to the same thing and you know it as much as I do, so why not quit the BS routine. It's almost as bad as when Gals claim Caldari has more active pilots than they do..
FW is broken more now than it's ever been at any time in the past. |
ALUCARD 1208
Spiritus Draconis Sicarius Draconis
4
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Posted - 2012.12.24 03:45:00 -
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if u cant find fights then your looking in the wrong place mate thats not our fault... on one hand caldari are crying bout the size of gallente corps and how there growing then in the next breath say its farmers winning the war make your mind up im sure theres lots of gallente corps out there getting kills everyday working together... something which if the caldari did they may just get somewere instead u let a certain finnish player poison your militia with his bitter twisted bile |
Ohishi
Covert Activities
0
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Posted - 2012.12.24 03:59:00 -
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Shaalira D'arc wrote:Since the inception of FW and right up to the Retribution expansion, the Caldari militia has been supported by the crutch of NPC imbalance.
It is hard to understate the strategic advantage one side possesses when they can speed-tank every single one of the other side's plexes in a PvP frigate. Especially when the other side, when they try to play offense, must either destroy the rats because of missile spam and overwhelming ECM, or use PvE fits with enough tank to last.
A similar imbalance, albeit to a lesser extent, existed on the Minmatar / Amarr front. A pvp rifter could ignore the rats' laser light show; Amarrians had to contend with missile spam from the Minmatar rats.
Post-Retribution, it's equally easy for all four sides to rake in plexes with NPCs playing a minimal role in the occupancy war.
In other words, it's now up to the players. Oh WAHHH. The NPC imbalance was never so great that that if you entered a defensive plex the glorious Caldari farmers would be able to smite you with full room agro. And you never needed a PvE fitted ship to kill off the NPCs in a FW plex. You just wanted easy mode and now we have it. Plexing is infinitely more boring now because of people like you bitching about something that hardly mattered all the while the core mechanics are what needed to change. So here we have it. One NPC and then sitting there until the other side has enough people to gank you before warping in. Dumb.
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Shaalira D'arc
Quantum Cats Syndicate Samurai Pizza Cats
566
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Posted - 2012.12.24 04:36:00 -
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Beautiful.
For all the shortcomings and imbalances of Retribution, it consistently delivers inpopcorn-quality forum content. Thank you, CCP.
Especially you, CCP chatgris. |
Sean Parisi
Project Cerberus Caldari State Capturing
63
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Posted - 2012.12.24 05:27:00 -
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Factions have won before. CCP does nothing, essentially it is a pendulum - Eventually it will swing the other way. But CCP does not do anything to "Reset" unless some sort of exploit was being used. The Winners win until they cant hold everything anymore. They will receive an award maybe. |
Crosi Wesdo
Shadows Of The Federation Drunk 'n' Disorderly
391
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Posted - 2012.12.24 05:47:00 -
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Mutnin wrote:Ahh so when it's bad for Caldari it's "Caldari's" fault but when it's bad for Gallente it's once again "Caldari's" fault. When you guys have numbers advantage it's Caldari should recruit more blahh blahh blahh. When Caldari have numbers advantage it's obviously broken game mechanics that let us win. I see where this is going.. Let us remember up until CCP started messing with the Sov war crap and giving a tier system there was no advantage for new players to FW to join either side. It was clearly up to them to join the side they liked the best or had their favorite space ships. There was no disadvantage of not being able to make ISK or not being able to dock. Meaning even when Caldari held all your systems you could still bring new blood in because having lost all your systems did not affect your gameplay. Now CCP created null sec lite in order to make system captures mean something which in turn creates a situation where there is no reason to join the side that happens to be losing at the time. Yet you cry about old plex mechanics as if it somehow gave Caldari a advantage, all the while ignoring the great advantage you now have as if 100s of farmer alts aren't doing the work for you. At least when Caldari took all your systems it was done by people that were out there to PVP, not armies of T1 frigs that run at first site of combat, whom have zero interest in FW outside of the isk faucet.
There is no evidence of farmer alts. The VP numbers are pretty even. These are complicated issues so i forgive you for being completely ignorant of them. |
Kazim Scumling
Judge Enterprises
5
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Posted - 2012.12.24 06:00:00 -
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I was at Tannakan early in the morning and chasing a comet with cloak. I almost caught him once however I was 1 second late. After a while of cat and mouse game he finally got pissed off and we started a conversation. At the end of the conversation I think I was more disappointed then the other guy, as he was kinda stating the bitter truth.
[05:04:04] EVE System > Channel changed to Local : Tannakan [05:10:39] Threatty Chelien Kazim Scumling [05:10:56] Kazim Scumling > ? [05:11:05] Threatty Chelien > why do you keep following me [05:11:18] Kazim Scumling > You look like a hot chick [05:11:32] Threatty Chelien > :l [05:11:44] Threatty Chelien > if i do then well ur ... [05:12:09] Kazim Scumling > :( [05:12:31] Threatty Chelien > dude i really need to plex my accounts [05:12:41] Threatty Chelien > your not helping =[ [05:12:58] Threatty Chelien > switching ships back and fourth [05:13:06] Threatty Chelien > to get me [05:13:23] Kazim Scumling > Why should I help you plex your accounts? [05:13:42] Threatty Chelien > cause its simple [05:14:07] Threatty Chelien > leaaave me alone <- [05:14:25] Kazim Scumling > As you plex here you waste LPs I donated for this system's upgrades [05:14:37] Kazim Scumling > So it's not beneficial for me to let you be here [05:14:42] Threatty Chelien > i left your system already [05:14:51] Threatty Chelien > why not go there and deplex it [05:15:16] Kazim Scumling > Nahh Sahtogas/Tannakan/Saikamon/Anka and all other systems around is important for us [05:15:30] Kazim Scumling > If you want to plex more peacfully I suggest you to move the other side of the map [05:15:30] Threatty Chelien > thats what another amarr told me yesterday [05:15:36] Threatty Chelien > Hey [05:15:38] Threatty Chelien > check my militia (note: I checked it's Gallente) [05:15:42] Threatty Chelien > ^ [05:15:56] Kazim Scumling > Then go plex Caldari space [05:15:57] Threatty Chelien > i aint minmatar [05:16:05] Kazim Scumling > You're still damaging our upgrades [05:16:14] Threatty Chelien > Caldari space is all taken and the systems left over are just pure warfields for the infastructure hubs [05:16:33] Threatty Chelien > They even start calling in corps to take over Tama [05:16:41] Threatty Chelien > and Tama is the low sec system right next to jita... [05:17:37] Kazim Scumling > This is our space and I'm forsworn to protect it [05:17:43] Threatty Chelien > No your not [05:17:52] Threatty Chelien > its amarr space not your space [05:18:01] Threatty Chelien > it might as well be mine if i hit enlist on your militia [05:18:11] Kazim Scumling > Yeah join us then :D :D [05:18:19] Threatty Chelien > no you guys suck [05:18:25] Threatty Chelien > Tier 1/2 = bad [05:18:35] Threatty Chelien > Gallente is almost at ******* T5 [05:18:52] Kazim Scumling > yeah but you're complaining that you don't find space to plex [05:19:02] Threatty Chelien > yeah [05:19:05] Kazim Scumling > We never have such issues [05:19:17] Threatty Chelien > yeah cause u guys suck so badly minmatar/gallente has it all [05:19:42] Kazim Scumling > Well sorry no easy ISK for you here [05:19:50] Kazim Scumling > Go check other parts of the map [05:20:17] Threatty Chelien > i made 600k LP within 4 hours [05:20:34] Threatty Chelien > and yes i will check other parts
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I don't know if the guy told truth about 600k LP in 4 hours. If so it sounds a bit too much. What is equally disturbing is Gallente pilots starting to plex at Amarr space. Considering we're (Amarr) struggling to keep upgades up (even though we donate hell amount of LP continuously) and loosing almost 1 system per day, I think it's going to a bitter end.
I'm not blaming our Amarr brothers as I really don't think we suck. However we're getting overwhelmed by superior numbers and far better resources.
As a corporation most of our members rely on Faction Warfare LP as an income. If Amarr militia sticks to Tier1 for an extended period of time, and if we're pushed to very few systems where everything around is continuously camped by superior numbers, we'll have to leave it.
One could suggest rather than leaving, staying and fighting for it. However fighting against twice the numbers and thrice the resources just doesn't make sense. Other options sounds more reasonable, as this is a game, not a real-life war scenario where we should fight or die.
I know some suggests that winning side eventually will be bored or get disoriented. I know it happened in the past. However there is a big difference now, great LP income. I don't think majority will get bored of such a good amount of continuous ISK. Making a 2-3 week old alt flying a rifter with 2 warp stabilizers you can make more ISK that a lvl4 missioning pilot. And unfortunately those pilots effecting the state of factional warfare.
It might have been the Amarr/Caldari side winning this hard. And if it would have been the case, Minmatar/Gallente side would have been struggled really hard to keep up due to Tier-profit difference and effect of LP farmers. This system has some problems in such a way that it creates a huge snowball effect.
This is the last post I'm planning to make about the state of Factional Warfare, as I don't want to look as a whiner. We'll try to help our faction to hold it's ground a bit more. Hope it works out. |
X Gallentius
Justified Chaos
719
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Posted - 2012.12.24 07:46:00 -
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I heard you get a medal if you don't leave militia too quickly. |
Dan Carter Murray
263
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Posted - 2012.12.24 07:52:00 -
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Crosi Wesdo wrote: There is no evidence of farmer alts. The VP numbers are pretty even. These are complicated issues so i forgive you for being completely ignorant of them.
no farming occurs in FW
THIS IS GOLD FLEET BROTHER. WE DON'T NEED NO ******* THRASHERS/SFIs/CANES. |
Tsobai Hashimoto
FATAL Warfare Reckless Faith
15
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Posted - 2012.12.24 07:56:00 -
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Kazim Scumling wrote:I was at Tannakan early in the morning and chasing a comet with cloak. I almost caught him once however I was 1 second late. After a while of cat and mouse game he finally got pissed off and we started a conversation. At the end of the conversation I think I was more disappointed then the other guy, as he was kinda stating the bitter truth.
[05:04:04] EVE System > Channel changed to Local : Tannakan [05:10:39] Threatty Chelien Kazim Scumling [05:10:56] Kazim Scumling > ? [05:11:05] Threatty Chelien > why do you keep following me [05:11:18] Kazim Scumling > You look like a hot chick [05:11:32] Threatty Chelien > :l [05:11:44] Threatty Chelien > if i do then well ur ... [05:12:09] Kazim Scumling > :( [05:12:31] Threatty Chelien > dude i really need to plex my accounts [05:12:41] Threatty Chelien > your not helping =[ [05:12:58] Threatty Chelien > switching ships back and fourth [05:13:06] Threatty Chelien > to get me [05:13:23] Kazim Scumling > Why should I help you plex your accounts? [05:13:42] Threatty Chelien > cause its simple [05:14:07] Threatty Chelien > leaaave me alone <- [05:14:25] Kazim Scumling > As you plex here you waste LPs I donated for this system's upgrades [05:14:37] Kazim Scumling > So it's not beneficial for me to let you be here [05:14:42] Threatty Chelien > i left your system already [05:14:51] Threatty Chelien > why not go there and deplex it [05:15:16] Kazim Scumling > Nahh Sahtogas/Tannakan/Saikamon/Anka and all other systems around is important for us [05:15:30] Kazim Scumling > If you want to plex more peacfully I suggest you to move the other side of the map [05:15:30] Threatty Chelien > thats what another amarr told me yesterday [05:15:36] Threatty Chelien > Hey [05:15:38] Threatty Chelien > check my militia (note: I checked it's Gallente) [05:15:42] Threatty Chelien > ^ [05:15:56] Kazim Scumling > Then go plex Caldari space [05:15:57] Threatty Chelien > i aint minmatar [05:16:05] Kazim Scumling > You're still damaging our upgrades [05:16:14] Threatty Chelien > Caldari space is all taken and the systems left over are just pure warfields for the infastructure hubs [05:16:33] Threatty Chelien > They even start calling in corps to take over Tama [05:16:41] Threatty Chelien > and Tama is the low sec system right next to jita... [05:17:37] Kazim Scumling > This is our space and I'm forsworn to protect it [05:17:43] Threatty Chelien > No your not [05:17:52] Threatty Chelien > its amarr space not your space [05:18:01] Threatty Chelien > it might as well be mine if i hit enlist on your militia [05:18:11] Kazim Scumling > Yeah join us then :D :D [05:18:19] Threatty Chelien > no you guys suck [05:18:25] Threatty Chelien > Tier 1/2 = bad [05:18:35] Threatty Chelien > Gallente is almost at ******* T5 [05:18:52] Kazim Scumling > yeah but you're complaining that you don't find space to plex [05:19:02] Threatty Chelien > yeah [05:19:05] Kazim Scumling > We never have such issues [05:19:17] Threatty Chelien > yeah cause u guys suck so badly minmatar/gallente has it all [05:19:42] Kazim Scumling > Well sorry no easy ISK for you here [05:19:50] Kazim Scumling > Go check other parts of the map [05:20:17] Threatty Chelien > i made 600k LP within 4 hours [05:20:34] Threatty Chelien > and yes i will check other parts
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I don't know if the guy told truth about 600k LP in 4 hours. If so it sounds a bit too much. What is equally disturbing is Gallente pilots starting to plex at Amarr space. Considering we're (Amarr) struggling to keep upgades up (even though we donate hell amount of LP continuously) and loosing almost 1 system per day, I think it's going to a bitter end.
I'm not blaming our Amarr brothers as I really don't think we suck. However we're getting overwhelmed by superior numbers and far better resources.
As a corporation most of our members rely on Faction Warfare LP as an income. If Amarr militia sticks to Tier1 for an extended period of time, and if we're pushed to very few systems where everything around is continuously camped by superior numbers, we'll have to leave it.
One could suggest rather than leaving, staying and fighting for it. However fighting against twice the numbers and thrice the resources just doesn't make sense. Other options sounds more reasonable, as this is a game, not a real-life war scenario where we should fight or die.
I know some suggests that winning side eventually will be bored or get disoriented. I know it happened in the past. However there is a big difference now, great LP income. I don't think majority will get bored of such a good amount of continuous ISK. Making a 2-3 week old alt flying a rifter with 2 warp stabilizers you can make more ISK that a lvl4 missioning pilot. And unfortunately those pilots effecting the state of factional warfare.
It might have been the Amarr/Caldari side winning this hard. And if it would have been the case, Minmatar/Gallente side would have been struggled really hard to keep up due to Tier-profit difference and effect of LP farmers. This system has some problems in such a way that it creates a huge snowball effect.
This is the last post I'm planning to make about the state of Factional Warfare, as I don't want to look as a whiner. We'll try to help our faction to hold it's ground a bit more. Hope it works out.
This is the sad fate of FW as it is now.......... and the other corps will get bored, but not before 90% of the Caldari and Amarr corps bail b/c it has become usless
It is only a mater of time before more and more Gal plex farmers looking for easy isk move into Amarr space, and then its over quick
I'll be shooting what I can till then..... |
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