Pages: 1 2 3 [4] 5 6 7 8 9 10 11 .. 11 :: one page |
|
Author |
Thread Statistics | Show CCP posts - 1 post(s) |
DeMichael Crimson
Republic University Minmatar Republic
4690
|
Posted - 2012.12.30 18:46:00 -
[91] - Quote
Alavaria Fera wrote:Ghazu wrote:DeMichael Crimson wrote:Definitely a sad state of affairs. +1 LIKE for the OP. Over the past few years I've watched Eve Online slowly turn into Grief Online. A lot of UN-trustworthy players in this game now. More than likely the main reason a lot of players stay in NPC Corp. DMC +1 LIKE for the victim, I love it when they cry. 4 year old npc duder, "that's way no one can hurt me". Until they get ganked anyway. Heh True, no place in Eve is truly safe, except when docked in station.
I must say your battle record is very impressive for a 1 year old Goon character.
Oh, I see. It's mainly from PoS gang banging.
DMC |
Alavaria Fera
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
2853
|
Posted - 2012.12.30 18:52:00 -
[92] - Quote
Etherealclams wrote:1. No one cares 2. You let a goon in, what did you expect? A change of heart? 3. Lol. Er, well... you see... Those who cannot adapt become victims of Evolugalbugaslugakjlwsdhvbzxd Click for old school EVE Portraits: http://jadeconstantine.web44.net/Maison.htm |
Skydell
Space Mermaids Somethin Awfull Forums
467
|
Posted - 2012.12.30 18:59:00 -
[93] - Quote
When a child gets bored, he picks on his little sister.
When Goons get bored, they pick on other EVE players.
Share the misery. Both will have an excuse and a one liner to justify it but it's the same thing. OP did what the little sister did. Acted like a victim, got frustrated because the unavoidable truth is, there wasn't much else they could do.
The title is accurate though. it is all about the trust and the willingness to abuse it. The mechanics exploit the demand to trust strangers, the bored players exploit the demand to trust strangers. |
ErrorRon
The Drunken Empire Fatal Ascension
13
|
Posted - 2012.12.30 19:01:00 -
[94] - Quote
Awoxxed less than a bill? Amateurs.. |
Ghazu
418
|
Posted - 2012.12.30 19:09:00 -
[95] - Quote
DeMichael Crimson wrote:Ghazu wrote:DeMichael Crimson wrote:Definitely a sad state of affairs. +1 LIKE for the OP. Over the past few years I've watched Eve Online slowly turn into Grief Online. A lot of UN-trustworthy players in this game now. More than likely the main reason a lot of players stay in NPC Corp. DMC +1 LIKE for the victim, I love it when they cry. 4 year old npc duder, "that's way no one can hurt me". Hahaha, what a fail attempt at trying to flame shame me. Obviously you must not understand what the 'wink' means at the end of my statement. Either that or in your haste at trying to flame shame me, you completely missed the 'wink'. Oh yeah, I'm proud to be in NPC corp. Anyway, what's really funny is that your 2 year old Goon character has no battle record at all, win or lose, yet you post like you're some sort of big bad PvP'er with ton's of solo kills. Seems hiding in a large player made Corporation / Alliance is definitely the best way to stay safe, right? DMC you sure like them emotes
dmc http://www.minerbumping.com/ lol what the christ https://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=posts&m=2299984#post2299984 |
DeMichael Crimson
Republic University Minmatar Republic
4690
|
Posted - 2012.12.30 19:40:00 -
[96] - Quote
Ghazu wrote: you sure like them emotes
dmc
And you sure like hitting that space bar.
For some reason this feels like Deja Vu. Is this another Salazar character?
Well, even if it's not, here's some Ghazu 'Emotes'.
\o/ Have A Happy New Year \o/
DMC |
Bohoba
Blue Ice Melts
26
|
Posted - 2012.12.30 19:41:00 -
[97] - Quote
Like a few have said a goon is a goon and there goons wantabees :)
don't let them get u down just take it back to them... they run most the time hehe
once u get them out in the open with no cap backup
>)
I Love the smell of goons podpie in the morning topped with a tear |
Aasera Moennan
Center for Advanced Studies Gallente Federation
3
|
Posted - 2012.12.30 20:57:00 -
[98] - Quote
Not Politically Correct wrote:Why is anyone concerned with the fit?
Why does anyone want to be near anything that they are trying to kill?
Sorry to bring a ray of RL in here, but I was taught not to take a knife to a fight where the other guy might be able call in an air strike.
Oh. That's right, this isn't RL.
LOL its all troll food man. You need to put those peanuts back in your pocket and quit feeding the troll monkeys... |
Felicity Love
War-Tech Inc. Black Core Alliance
134
|
Posted - 2012.12.30 21:26:00 -
[99] - Quote
You should call him bad names or something. Really bad ones. In Local.
He'll likely say it was a relapse, promise to attend a 12-step program and buy you a new CNR.
Really, really.
|
Vaal Erit
Science and Trade Institute Caldari State
444
|
Posted - 2012.12.30 22:54:00 -
[100] - Quote
Welcome to Eve. Sorry it has taken around 3 years to finally get your welcome package, the highsec welcome squad really needs to up their game. |
|
Not Politically Correct
Veerhouven Ventures
48
|
Posted - 2013.01.15 16:10:00 -
[101] - Quote
As I said, it was my fault it happened. No denying that. I thought this might act as a warning to others, though.
There are still several things I don't understand about the incident, and this thread, though.
1. I thought it was illegal for corp members, especially fleet members, to destroy ships and pod people in Hi Sec, but Concord did nothing. The Goonie stayed in the system, within 100 km of the station where this happened, for some time. Concord never showed any interest.
2. I still can't figure out why anyone would be interested in the ship I was flying, or how it was fitted.
3. It seems that several people mentioned that the character was several years old and a hot-shot PvPer. Neither is true. As a player, I started in July, 2009, but I've never really been a PvPer. Until about 5 months ago, I was primarily a miner, and I had never run into this kind of situation before. The character this happened to is still less than a year old. Fairly low skills, etc. |
RomeStar
Astra Research
112
|
Posted - 2013.01.15 16:22:00 -
[102] - Quote
oldbutfeelingyoung wrote:Not Politically Correct wrote:oldbutfeelingyoung wrote:lvl4 missions 18 hours a day lol
The fact that you can't do it doesn't mean that I can't. my job ,my wife and my children are making sure ,i can,t thanking god ,that i love my underpaid job ,my wife and my children and still have time to play and love EvE
How is your wife and my kids? Signatured removed, CCP Phantom |
Ranger 1
Ranger Corp
3364
|
Posted - 2013.01.15 17:02:00 -
[103] - Quote
Not Politically Correct wrote:As I said, it was my fault it happened. No denying that. I thought this might act as a warning to others, though.
There are still several things I don't understand about the incident, and this thread, though.
1. I thought it was illegal for corp members, especially fleet members, to destroy ships and pod people in Hi Sec, but Concord did nothing. The Goonie stayed in the system, within 100 km of the station where this happened, for some time. Concord never showed any interest.
2. I still can't figure out why anyone would be interested in the ship I was flying, or how it was fitted.
3. It seems that several people mentioned that the character was several years old and a hot-shot PvPer. Neither is true. As a player, I started in July, 2009, but I've never really been a PvPer. Until about 5 months ago, I was primarily a miner, and I had never run into this kind of situation before. The character this happened to is still less than a year old. Fairly low skills, etc.
Sorry, I may have missed pertinent posts in the middle of this thread, but...
1: There is no penalty for attacking a corp member. This make the common practice of testing fits against each other possible.
2: There is interest in your fit because people may be trying to figure out how your missioning ship was popped outside a station (as your OP indicated)... wondering why you didn't just dock up.
3: I don't think character age (or your time in game as a player) is very relevant. Some people never learn that the trick to EvE is not distrusting everyone... the trick is learning how to discern who is worthy of trust and in each case just how far that trust should go.
That being said, I'm still fairly sure this is a troll (albeit not a bad one), as it is difficult to believe that anyone would be foolish enough to kick members in good standing from his corp without good reason. To carve a successful niche for yourself in EVE you need to be able to out sell, out produce, out fight,-á out run, or out wit your competitors. If you can do none of the above, your only option is to complain on the forums that somehow you are at a disadvantage using the exact same tool set-áas the rest of the player base. |
Not Politically Correct
Veerhouven Ventures
48
|
Posted - 2013.01.15 17:37:00 -
[104] - Quote
You may have missed the part about me being webbed and scrammed and about 100km from the docking bay. I had been testing a spider capping fit with my logi pilot.
You should be able to find the answer to your last comment in your paragraph 3. |
luZk
x13 Whores in space
89
|
Posted - 2013.01.15 18:02:00 -
[105] - Quote
What you're doing to your corpmates now is actually 100 times worse than what that goon did to you. Ever thought about that? |
Bud Austrene
Republic Military School Minmatar Republic
6
|
Posted - 2013.01.15 19:27:00 -
[106] - Quote
Not Politically Correct wrote:So the question, kind of, goes back to the original post in this thread. Who can an Eve player trust?
IMHO? No one. Thus my actions.
If I have to defend myself against every other player in the game, where's the trust?
Trust is something that is earned over time. This is why real trust in EVE generally only exists between those that know each other in real life. Or have know each other in the game for a long time.
For the most part, those that have evil intent, will not hang around very long if it appears to be taking too long for a ripe opportunity to present itself. They do not have the patience to put in the time it takes to earn trust.
Playing by your self without trusting anyone can be pretty lonely and shut you out of options. Having a main corporation that requires a certain time be spent in a sub-corporations before being allowed into the main corporation can filter out a lot of undesirables.
Test them with lower hanging fruit before letting them into a position that could be severely damaging.
Being paranoid is good in this game but being overly paranoid is self-defeating. It is kinda like pissing in your own bed.
Not everyone is mean and evil
Yes I am an alt. I see no reason to make it easy for bullies and greifers |
Riedle
Paradox Collective Choke Point
254
|
Posted - 2013.01.15 19:33:00 -
[107] - Quote
Quote:He killed my CNR right outside of my home station
Why didn't you just dock up? |
Natsett Amuinn
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
1476
|
Posted - 2013.01.15 19:40:00 -
[108] - Quote
Not Politically Correct wrote: It was obviously my fault, as much for the things I did as the things I didn't do. But what's the result?
All the members of the corp are now in stasis and will be kicked as soon as they come out. Applications will be disabled permanently. I'm not going to quit the game, because I like it, but I would much rather fly solo, and auto-reject, than get another surprise like that.
'Nough said.
I'm sorry.
I read that and though, You're a bigger **** than the guy the thread is about.
You're going to kick everyone from the corp because of one bad seed. One guy pisses you off, and you kick everyone from the corp?
That's ****** up. Way more than the guy blowing up your ship.
You're a horrible CEO, and have no business running a corp.
PS: I was about to put a couple billion on your corp, but you'll just disband it. |
Ranger 1
Ranger Corp
3365
|
Posted - 2013.01.15 19:50:00 -
[109] - Quote
Not Politically Correct wrote:You may have missed the part about me being webbed and scrammed and about 100km from the docking bay. I had been testing a spider capping fit with my logi pilot.
You should be able to find the answer to your last comment in your paragraph 3. Yes, I did miss that (as I didn't have time to read all of the responses). My apologies on that point.
If you think the answer to my last comment (that kicking your established corp members is foolish) is contained in my statement that the key to EvE is learning who to trust and how far (not as many think simply not trusting anyone) then you didn't understand what I wrote.
Not everyone can do this, and if that's the case for you then your corp members are frankly better off without you. If one successful Awox causes this type of reaction you have no business running a corp that contains others... and frankly are a little too emotionally invested in the game for your own good.
The loss of that ship should be at most a minor annoyance that pales in comparison to the enjoyment you can find playing with a group of players that you find entertaining.
So either you valued that ship way to much, or your friends/corp mates way too little... or quite possibly both. To carve a successful niche for yourself in EVE you need to be able to out sell, out produce, out fight,-á out run, or out wit your competitors. If you can do none of the above, your only option is to complain on the forums that somehow you are at a disadvantage using the exact same tool set-áas the rest of the player base. |
Caterin Stetille
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
20
|
Posted - 2013.01.15 20:07:00 -
[110] - Quote
Found this thread today and learned that people use Navy Ravens for missioning, still. Fascinating.
Also, the reaction to being awoxed is hilarious, but I was really more interested in the Navy Raven part of the story. |
|
Needmore Longcat
Dreddit Test Alliance Please Ignore
8
|
Posted - 2013.01.15 20:14:00 -
[111] - Quote
His raven was equipped with the following:
HIGH 06 x Cruise Missile Launcher I 01 x SMALL TRACTOR BEAM 1 01 x SALVAGER I
MEDIUM 04 x LARGE SHIELD EXTENDERS 01 x 'HYPHNOS' ECM 01 x MEDIUM SHIELD BOOSTER
LOW 01 x EMERGENCY DAMAGE CONTROL 01 x ARMOR KINETIC HARDENER I 01 x ARMOR THREMIC HARDENER I 02 x WARP CORE STABILIZER I
DRONES 02 x WARRIOR I DRONES 03 x HAMMERHEAD I DRONES
UPGRADES 01 x ROCKET FUEL CACHE PARTINTION I 01 x BAY LOADING ACCELERATOR I |
Surfin's PlunderBunny
Sebiestor Tribe Minmatar Republic
6575
|
Posted - 2013.01.15 20:18:00 -
[112] - Quote
Not Politically Correct wrote:Why is anyone concerned with the fit?
Why does anyone want to be near anything that they are trying to kill?
Sorry to bring a ray of RL in here, but I was taught not to take a knife to a fight where the other guy might be able call in an air strike.
Oh. That's right, this isn't RL.
Well to be honest if you're close enough to be using a knife he's not going to be attempting to call in air "Little ginger moron" ~David Hasselhoff-á |
De'Veldrin
East India Ore Trade The East India Co.
753
|
Posted - 2013.01.15 20:21:00 -
[113] - Quote
Riedle wrote:Quote:He killed my CNR right outside of my home station Why didn't you just dock up?
Because his definition of "right outside" is "100k off the station". The Margin Trading Scam: If you fell for it, it's your own damned fault. Malcanis for CSM 8 |
HVAC Repairman
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
358
|
Posted - 2013.01.15 20:22:00 -
[114] - Quote
this thread is causing me to walk on sunshine
like the song Follow me on twitter |
Avarice Lorelei
The Dark Space Initiative
81
|
Posted - 2013.01.15 20:23:00 -
[115] - Quote
+5 sec and no bounties automatically makes him seem like a good guy
gg |
Malcanis
Vanishing Point. The Initiative.
7038
|
Posted - 2013.01.15 20:39:00 -
[116] - Quote
Not Politically Correct wrote:I've been playing since July of 2009. Had my ups and downs. Made a lot of ISK mining, lost a corp to an infiltrator, lost some expensive ships, blah, blah, blah.
Then I decided to start a mission running corp, and it was expanding nicely. 2.5% tax rate, Level 4 missions 18 hours a day even for people only 2 weeks old. It was a lot of fun helping them. Life was good.
Today I got an application from a 2007 player. +5.0 standing with Concord, no bounty, seemed like a nice guy, but there was a problem. He had been in both Goonswarm and Goonwaffe in 2010. So I asked him about that before accepting the application. He said that was a thing of the past, he had grown out of that phase.
Do you see where I am going now?
I accepted him and asked him along on a Level 4. He killed my CNR right outside of my home station. 994 million ISK down the tubes.
It was obviously my fault, as much for the things I did as the things I didn't do. But what's the result?
All the members of the corp are now in stasis and will be kicked as soon as they come out. Applications will be disabled permanently. I'm not going to quit the game, because I like it, but I would much rather fly solo, and auto-reject, than get another surprise like that.
'Nough said.
So you made a dumb mistake, lost a ship from it, and now you're throwing a hissy fit against your own corp members?
Vote for Malcanis for CSM8 https://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=posts&t=192717&find=unread |
Inxentas Ultramar
Ultramar Independent Contracting Home Front Coalition
272
|
Posted - 2013.01.15 20:40:00 -
[117] - Quote
Whoaaaa LOL. Awoxing happens. Your mental capacity to shrug it off is more important then preventing it in the first place. The ship you are in? If you play Eve instead of grinding it, it will inevitably be destroyed. so it doesn't matter that much. I don't wanna bash the way you play the game, to each their own. Do realize that as a CEO, you have the power to cultivate a certain... how shall I put it... game philosophy. I believe a CEO can cultivate a certain philosophy that will trickle all the way down to the newest members.
You took a risk and it backfired. So? You could have taken that awox as a chance to team up upon a common enemy. Social studies indicate having a common enemy cultivates a sense of solidarity in a group. You could have taken up arms against this dude with the ones you do trust. Every hostility toward your corp is a chance to improve it. I welcome these things, as they weed out the extremely risk averse and build trust and friendships with those that trust you. Hardships create better corps.
It sounds like you made a few errors in judgement (excuse the peer review) but that you'd still prefer to play with other people. Then I say find a corp where you can pull some weight, but leave CEOship to someone more willing to deal with these things. Going solo can have merit, but you can also solo around when belonging to a group. The other way around... not so much. Good luck, hope you bounce back and go give this ex-gewn a proper whoppin'
Even if you fail, you win, if you learned something and had fun at the same time. You regret the loss of a single ship, while I joyfully get blown up, improving my game along the way. For me Eve is like:
read read read try fail read read read try fail read read read try win, and feel awesome. |
Lechert
Orion's Fist Test Alliance Please Ignore
1
|
Posted - 2013.01.15 20:57:00 -
[118] - Quote
Needmore Longcat wrote:His raven was equipped with the following:
HIGH 06 x Cruise Missile Launcher I 01 x SMALL TRACTOR BEAM 1 01 x SALVAGER I
MEDIUM 04 x LARGE SHIELD EXTENDERS 01 x 'HYPHNOS' ECM 01 x MEDIUM SHIELD BOOSTER
LOW 01 x EMERGENCY DAMAGE CONTROL 01 x ARMOR KINETIC HARDENER I 01 x ARMOR THREMIC HARDENER I 02 x WARP CORE STABILIZER I
DRONES 02 x WARRIOR I DRONES 03 x HAMMERHEAD I DRONES
UPGRADES 01 x ROCKET FUEL CACHE PARTINTION I 01 x BAY LOADING ACCELERATOR I
My god. First thing, aside from the paranoia from the OP is that you need to train for T2 modules and learn how to fit a pve raven.
In regards to the trust thing.
Awoxing is here and there is nothing we can do about it. Goons are awoxed themselves as are testies, etc. It's something you can do little to stop and sadly, when it happens, it does feel bad man. But suck it in and move on.
Don't throw away being in a corp because of a goon.
Also, VFK by March. |
Chandaris
Immortalis Inc. Shadow Cartel
224
|
Posted - 2013.01.15 21:12:00 -
[119] - Quote
Lesson learned: never accept an app from anyone who has had affiliation w/ goonswarm in the past.
Harsh rule, sucks to be them, but they chose to fly w/ goons in the first place and should know what that means when they joined. |
Richter Enderas
Kaesong Kosmonauts Test Alliance Please Ignore
205
|
Posted - 2013.01.15 21:15:00 -
[120] - Quote
never trust GOON
all GOON do is make money for RMT....
we know that GOON ceo THE MATTINNI make money off of kill mission runner......
THE MATTINNI secretly work for CCP.......why do u think GOON not disband???
u paying CCP by trusting GOON......grrrr |
|
|
|
|
Pages: 1 2 3 [4] 5 6 7 8 9 10 11 .. 11 :: one page |
First page | Previous page | Next page | Last page |