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Gizan
Hounds Of War
WHY so Seri0Us
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Posted - 2013.01.11 18:47:00 -
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wrong forum section artard!
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Angry Little Beaver
Republic University
Minmatar Republic
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Posted - 2013.01.11 18:52:00 -
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Abby Zor
Science and Trade Institute
Caldari State
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Posted - 2013.01.11 18:55:00 -
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lolfesterbling wrote:U mad bro?!?!?!?
U seem mad ?!?!?!?
Ya your mad..........
Seems you have competition dude.....
Nimbor > hold open every site and join in, while you reply on the forums to get it fixed
^ tvp channel, tvp fc |
Zor'katar
Matari Recreation
39
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Posted - 2013.01.11 18:55:00 -
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Anyone try running this by a CSM rep? They might just laugh, but it's worth a shot. If you can convince one that this is bad (I think there's a lot of good arguments in this thread), they might be able to get it looked at. (That's how the CSM system is *supposed* to work, isn't it?) |
DarthNefarius
Minmatar Heavy Industries
571
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Posted - 2013.01.11 18:56:00 -
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So why don't you guys just move over to the other Established incursion leaving the griefed open sites here?
Forcing him to also keep those sites open too to prove to CCP its a problem?
But knowing you shield geniuses you'll probably kill this incursion so only 1 is up giving him a much easier job 
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DarthNefarius
Minmatar Heavy Industries
571
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Posted - 2013.01.11 18:58:00 -
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Zor'katar wrote:Anyone try running this by a CSM rep? They might just laugh, but it's worth a shot. If you can convince one that this is bad (I think there's a lot of good arguments in this thread), they might be able to get it looked at. (That's how the CSM system is *supposed* to work, isn't it?)
Did you read what happened in the CSM notes after CCP Soundwave admitted he/CCP broke Incursions? They actually cheered it on
CSM is against Incursions. CSM is for spacerich NULL/lo/WH alliances wehave no representation
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Abby Zor
Science and Trade Institute
Caldari State
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Posted - 2013.01.11 18:59:00 -
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DarthNefarius wrote:So why don't you guys just move over to the other Established incursion leaving the griefed open sites here? Forcing him to also keep those sites open too to prove to CCP its a problem? But knowing you shield geniuses you'll probably kill this incursion so only 1 is up giving him a much easier job
That would mean where end up in your armor inc doesnt it?
talk about genius here, fyi he tends to folow....
maby its an idea if he came to pester you gentelmen over there ands see what you post after that.... |
DarthNefarius
Minmatar Heavy Industries
571
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Posted - 2013.01.11 19:03:00 -
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Everyone start petitioning the sites under stuck since the sites are stuck open
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Gizan
Hounds Of War
WHY so Seri0Us
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Posted - 2013.01.11 19:05:00 -
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^^ do that
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Zor'katar
Matari Recreation
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Posted - 2013.01.11 19:05:00 -
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DarthNefarius wrote:Did you read what happened in the CSM notes after CCP Soundwave admitted he/CCP broke Incursions? They actually cheered it on CSM is against Incursions. CSM is for spacerich NULL/lo/WH alliances wehave no representation
No. Got a link? |
DarthNefarius
Minmatar Heavy Industries
572
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Posted - 2013.01.11 19:36:00 -
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Zor'katar wrote:DarthNefarius wrote:Did you read what happened in the CSM notes after CCP Soundwave admitted he/CCP broke Incursions? They actually cheered it on CSM is against Incursions. CSM is for spacerich NULL/lo/WH alliances wehave no representation No. Got a link?
http://community.eveonline.com/council/transcripts/2012/CSM_CCP_Meetings_May_June_2012.pdf
pages 86/87 "The massive drop off of Vanguard sites was praised"
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Zor'katar
Matari Recreation
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Posted - 2013.01.11 19:53:00 -
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DarthNefarius wrote:http://community.eveonline.com/council/transcripts/2012/CSM_CCP_Meetings_May_June_2012.pdf
pages 86/87 "The massive drop off of Vanguard sites was praised"
Erm, it's worth noting that the rest of that sentence is "...since they were relatively risk-free ISK". A lot of people held that view at the time. I don't see anything in that text that screams "We hate Incursions."
But eh, I only occasionally dabble in Incursions, so I'll let you regulars handle it. Just wanted to make sure all avenues were being considered. |
Kroaky Oke
Old Spot PissPots Inc
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Posted - 2013.01.11 20:04:00 -
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ppl are saying that deleting a noob toon with a low sec status and re-rolling another is an exploit ..... why not just create a TRIAL account ... gank with that and then let the trial expire ?? thats not an exploit
And before ppl reply with "1 trial wont be enough" a HQ site takes 40-50 pilots .... thats 40-50 trial toons .... it would only take 10 per site to eliminate this problem , even if you have to put those trial toons in cheap frigs
Plus ccp might actualy notice that every day or so 40-50 trials are going flashy red then being dumped
If ppl put as much effort into out-thinking this guy as they put into complaining , the problem would be solved by now |
goldiiee
Tax and War Haven
160
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Posted - 2013.01.11 20:13:00 -
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Kroaky Oke wrote:ppl are saying that deleting a noob toon with a low sec status and re-rolling another is an exploit ..... why not just create a TRIAL account ... gank with that and then let the trial expire ?? thats not an exploit
And before ppl reply with "1 trial wont be enough" a HQ site takes 40-50 pilots .... thats 40-50 trial toons .... it would only take 10 per site to eliminate this problem , even if you have to put those trial toons in cheap frigs
Plus ccp might actualy notice that every day or so 40-50 trials are going flashy red then being dumped
If ppl put as much effort into out-thinking this guy as they put into complaining , the problem would be solved by now
As the sitesGÇÖ mechanic requires them to be vacated for 5 minutes (guessing)to allow them to despawn it wouldnGÇÖt matter if we had 300 gank alts in system as soon as you think the site has been cleared of the pest and warp away he can simply warp in another and still hold the site.
THIS MECHANIC IS BROKEN AS THERE IS NO COUNTER TO IT.
Reason and logic never wins over Stubborn and Convinced-á (But-áI still try..) |
Ice-T
The Ruling Company
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Posted - 2013.01.11 20:17:00 -
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^ amen to that. |
goldiiee
Tax and War Haven
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Posted - 2013.01.11 20:18:00 -
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goldiiee wrote:Kroaky Oke wrote:ppl are saying that deleting a noob toon with a low sec status and re-rolling another is an exploit ..... why not just create a TRIAL account ... gank with that and then let the trial expire ?? thats not an exploit
And before ppl reply with "1 trial wont be enough" a HQ site takes 40-50 pilots .... thats 40-50 trial toons .... it would only take 10 per site to eliminate this problem , even if you have to put those trial toons in cheap frigs
Plus ccp might actualy notice that every day or so 40-50 trials are going flashy red then being dumped
If ppl put as much effort into out-thinking this guy as they put into complaining , the problem would be solved by now As the sitesGÇÖ mechanic requires them to be vacated for 5 minutes (guessing)to allow them to despawn it wouldnGÇÖt matter if we had 300 gank alts in system as soon as you think the site has been cleared of the pest and warp away he can simply warp in another and still hold the site. THIS MECHANIC IS BROKEN AS THERE IS NO COUNTER TO IT.
additional thought:
Simply changing the spawn trigger to despawn the site when it get paid out and allow others to spawn by that same trigger would alleviate the problem.
It should also be noted that it doesnGÇÖt require a noob ship this can be done by using a fully trained toon impossible to gank in highsec and be just as effective so again ganking them is Not an option.
Reason and logic never wins over Stubborn and Convinced-á (But-áI still try..) |
Lipbite
Express Hauler
585
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Posted - 2013.01.12 05:10:00 -
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DarthNefarius wrote:So why don't you guys just move over to the other Established incursion
Because HQ sites in high influence are barely playable (15-20% resists and damage drop).
P.S. Who cares about CSM? Let CCP and null alliances play their useless circlejerk meta-games. |
goldiiee
Tax and War Haven
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Posted - 2013.01.12 05:51:00 -
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Lipbite wrote:DarthNefarius wrote:So why don't you guys just move over to the other Established incursion Because HQ sites in high influence are barely playable (15-20% resists and damage drop) and moving to another incursion will take few more hours to grind influence to zero. I.e. in high influence HQ sites are as "profitable" as lvl4 missions making whole activity nearly pointless - not to mention 5+ ships pop series in TCRC sites in 50-100% influence. P.S. By caring about CSM you support them. Let CCP and null alliances play their useless circlejerk quasi democracy meta-game - alone.
Actually didn't move cause the idea of running 20 jumps to give the pinhead more LUL's was against everyones better judgement.
Reason and logic never wins over Stubborn and Convinced-á (But-áI still try..) |
Pavel Sohaj
Gisre Ind.
0
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Posted - 2013.01.12 07:43:00 -
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And someone like forgot to mention - he will simply follow. |
marVLs
95
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Posted - 2013.01.12 18:55:00 -
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Yup blocking sites should be fixed CCP  |
Agent Type
Fweddit
I Whip My Slaves Back and Forth
3
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Posted - 2013.01.12 23:05:00 -
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Hah, joined a channel today looking to get into Incursions. Was quickly informed about this and that it was not possible at the moment. Yay. |
Yuri Wayfare
Suddenly Ninjas
Tear Extraction And Reclamation Service
231
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Posted - 2013.01.13 09:05:00 -
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Looks like you got the short end of the stick. Pay the man.
"Suddenly, trash pickers! HUNDREDS of winos going through your recyclables." -Piugattuk
Be careful what you wish for. |
sureis
The Gold Club
0
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Posted - 2013.01.13 10:09:00 -
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goldiiee wrote:Kroaky Oke wrote:ppl are saying that deleting a noob toon with a low sec status and re-rolling another is an exploit ..... why not just create a TRIAL account ... gank with that and then let the trial expire ?? thats not an exploit
And before ppl reply with "1 trial wont be enough" a HQ site takes 40-50 pilots .... thats 40-50 trial toons .... it would only take 10 per site to eliminate this problem , even if you have to put those trial toons in cheap frigs
Plus ccp might actualy notice that every day or so 40-50 trials are going flashy red then being dumped
If ppl put as much effort into out-thinking this guy as they put into complaining , the problem would be solved by now As the sitesGÇÖ mechanic requires them to be vacated for 5 minutes (guessing)to allow them to despawn it wouldnGÇÖt matter if we had 300 gank alts in system as soon as you think the site has been cleared of the pest and warp away he can simply warp in another and still hold the site. THIS MECHANIC IS BROKEN AS THERE IS NO COUNTER TO IT.
Ah yes. Unpaid trial accounts vs. unpaid trial accounts to determine the game of 100 shiney pirate battleships. Obviously this is an important game mechanic. I think they should make a patch where any trial account in the whole incursion constellation freezes the HQ site and the HQ fleets have to search every system until they find the noobship and then gank it and spank it. There should be a new HQ site where you need a noobship in fleet and once the battletower goes down you have to pod the trial noob. Why didn't they think of this before? |
goldiiee
Tax and War Haven
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Posted - 2013.01.13 14:54:00 -
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sureis wrote:goldiiee wrote:Kroaky Oke wrote:ppl are saying that deleting a noob toon with a low sec status and re-rolling another is an exploit ..... why not just create a TRIAL account ... gank with that and then let the trial expire ?? thats not an exploit
And before ppl reply with "1 trial wont be enough" a HQ site takes 40-50 pilots .... thats 40-50 trial toons .... it would only take 10 per site to eliminate this problem , even if you have to put those trial toons in cheap frigs
Plus ccp might actualy notice that every day or so 40-50 trials are going flashy red then being dumped
If ppl put as much effort into out-thinking this guy as they put into complaining , the problem would be solved by now As the sitesGÇÖ mechanic requires them to be vacated for 5 minutes (guessing)to allow them to despawn it wouldnGÇÖt matter if we had 300 gank alts in system as soon as you think the site has been cleared of the pest and warp away he can simply warp in another and still hold the site. THIS MECHANIC IS BROKEN AS THERE IS NO COUNTER TO IT. Ah yes. Unpaid trial accounts vs. unpaid trial accounts to determine the game of 100 shiney pirate battleships. Obviously this is an important game mechanic. I think they should make a patch where any trial account in the whole incursion constellation freezes the HQ site and the HQ fleets have to search every system until they find the noobship and then gank it and spank it. There should be a new HQ site where you need a noobship in fleet and once the battletower goes down you have to pod the trial noob. Why didn't they think of this before?
Perhaps we can even add a feature with that, the noobs corpses can be stuck on the spike of nightmare as warning to others. 
Reason and logic never wins over Stubborn and Convinced-á (But-áI still try..) |
Bee Rad'z Dark
Space Technicians
2
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Posted - 2013.01.13 17:19:00 -
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Here is a possible solution if anyone is actually paying attention.
If the person holding up the site is griefing why not after the site is finished give him a 2 min warning before he is givin a suspect flag, seeing as though ransoming is considered a criminal activity in the real world.... Then make it to where pods cannot hold open a site. Thus enabling in highsec to gank him and not be able to hold the site open.
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Agent Type
Fweddit
I Whip My Slaves Back and Forth
4
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Posted - 2013.01.13 18:17:00 -
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Is CCP aware of this issue? I haven't seen a response. I am still trying to do my first Incursion, but I am unable due to sites being held open by other players. |
Rip Minner
ARMITAGE Logistics Salvage and Industries
87
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Posted - 2013.01.13 21:40:00 -
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This is some funny **** 
Is it a rock point a lazer at it and profit. Is it a ship point a lazer at it and profit. I dont see any problems here. |
AkJon Ferguson
JC Ferguson and Son Ltd
Ferguson Alliance
139
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Posted - 2013.01.14 00:49:00 -
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CCP, these folks deserve an answer.
Whether it's an 'exploit' or simply a terrible game mechanic, fix it. Risk-free, nearly effortless, uncounterable griefing has no place in EVE. |
Rip Minner
ARMITAGE Logistics Salvage and Industries
87
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Posted - 2013.01.14 05:33:00 -
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The day the newbie alts struck fear into hearts of Vets everywere at least in High sec.
Is it a rock point a lazer at it and profit. Is it a ship point a lazer at it and profit. I dont see any problems here. |
Vengeance Thirst
Sons Of Decebal
9
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Posted - 2013.01.14 11:39:00 -
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Its more and more obvious that ccp is trying to nerf isk making through out eve.
The lack of response for this thread, the new ai ... in lvl4 missions?.... What ccp doesent seem to understand is that the less isk we make the lass acconts we have... the less accounts we have the less plexes are been bought to be sold to us.
So its either that or i really dont get what are they trying to do by supporting this illegality.
As i said before and so did everyone else here that has more understanding than a stick: What this guy is doing can not be viably countered. He is making isk at no cost for hes ships / mods. He is using a game mechanic not ment to be used in this way, and if we want to gank him we get penalty and isk loos.
This is a unbalanced game mechanic if I were to go for what ccp response was in the petition, when they said its all good. |
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