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Malcanis
Vanishing Point. The Initiative.
7680
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Posted - 2013.02.19 14:22:00 -
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Sable Moran wrote:Malcanis wrote:hi-sec production [... snip ...] use of the production lines is so cheap it might as well be free What do you think of extending the office rent mechanism to manufacturing/research slot cost? I.e. if all slots are in use the cost per hour increases. Would that fix (even partially) this issue? Or would that perhaps hit new players too hard? I have no idea what new players would consider too high a price for a M/R slot.
That's certainly a possibility, and it would make a lot of sense. Youd end up with the high value, short duration jobs concentrating near the hubs (eg: building faction mods and ships), and the high bulk, low margin jobs like battleship production being distributed further out. I'd also be in favour of adding a variation that takes sec status into account. In addition to other considerations, this would be a useful ISK sink to help replace some of the big ones we've lost over the years as CCP have shifted us away from the NPC economy.
Long term, the real solution is to move productive activities to POS, such that using player owned facilities is preferable to NPC owned ones. But that needs CCP to rework POS to make the tolerable to use first. Meanwhile, let's at least balance between the facilities we have.
You can put in protections for new player systems by (for instance) harshly restricting the maximum job time to a few hours so that it's not possible to build 100 tier 3 BS at a time in a 1.0 station. Put in plenty of lines for noobs making their own Cormarant or whatever, but make them uneconomic with that type of restriction to use for high-level production. Vote for Malcanis for CSM8 https://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=posts&t=192717&find=unread |

Amyclas Amatin
EVE University Ivy League
6
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Posted - 2013.02.19 14:38:00 -
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Malcanis wrote:Amyclas Amatin wrote:Mallak Azaria wrote:Amyclas Amatin wrote:Maybe your stations need a buff. Nerfing high-sec will result in a lot of screaming. Nullsec stations do need a buff but highsec stations also need a huge nerf, otherwise buffing nullsec stations would be pointless. People would keep using the better & safe option. So in essence, you want to nerf one form of play-style to make your own more relevant? In order to make productive professions viable in 0.0, CCP would literally have to pay people, and pay them quite a bit, to do them there to make them competitive with the incredible subsidies that hi-sec gets. Since I'm not in favour of nerfing anything out of spite or the sheer lack of willingness to think of reasonable alternatives, I'd be delighted to incorporate your suggestions instead. When you make them, please bear in mind that hi-sec production is done in stations that are provided for free, instead of costing 10s of billions of ISK, use of the production lines is so cheap it might as well be free, the stations can never change hands so there's no risk of being locked out and losing your investment or even having to spend the time to set up your supply chain again, there are no sovereignty bills or sov structure investments, there are multiple stations in a single system, reducing travel overhead and risk, CONCORD deter attack 24/7, for free, 100% refineries are readily available with minimum investment and skills.... and so on. All of that has a quantifiable value as a subsidy. A large value. There are only so many efficiency advantages CCP can give to 0.0 industry. Somewhere along the line I simply can't see an alternative to reducing the subsidies that hi-sec industry gets. If you can provide one, then I will tip my hat to you, sir. EDIT: To anticipate the reply which I suspect you will make, the value of Technetium has been reduced by almost 2/3 last I checked. I don't anticipate that hi-sec industry will need a nerf nearly as strong as that.
A possible long-term improvement to player-owned outposts would be modular or upgradable outposts, just like the coming modular POSes. Perhaps billions of ISK could be invested to add yet even more research/manufacturing slots and/or improve refining efficiency.
I still disagree with nerfing high-sec production to create demand for null-sec production. As it is, the main reason for null production is a logistics base closer to home for the null alliances. There's no need to force the carebears into null using market pressure. High-sec industry players will hate it, a lot.
As it is, the wind seems to be blowing against a high-sec nerf. The latest patch added more manufacturing lines to high-sec space, and Quote:With really good skills, NPC corp standing and a 50% base output NPC station you can now actually get a 100% refinery output. .
I respect your position, and I sincerely hope to see more null-sec buffs and features. But I can't agree with doing it at the expense of high-sec. |

Farasoloni
North Eastern Swat Pandemic Legion
2
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Posted - 2013.02.19 14:43:00 -
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Malcanis is a good man, also he's one of the few duders that know how to make(and appreciate!) a proper Gin Tonic. |

Malcanis
Vanishing Point. The Initiative.
7680
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Posted - 2013.02.19 14:48:00 -
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Amyclas Amatin wrote:
I still disagree with nerfing high-sec production to create demand for null-sec production. As it is, the main reason for null production is a logistics base closer to home for the null alliances. There's no need to force the carebears into null using market pressure. High-sec industry players will hate it, a lot...
This isn't about forcing anyone to go anywhere. Please read more carefully what I've been saying. This is about making it viable for 0.0 players to bring their alts back home, because at the moment they're forced to operate them in hi-sec.
Vote for Malcanis for CSM8 https://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=posts&t=192717&find=unread |

mynnna
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
441
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Posted - 2013.02.19 16:47:00 -
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Amyclas Amatin wrote:As it is, the wind seems to be blowing against a high-sec nerf. The latest patch added more manufacturing lines to high-sec space, and Quote:With really good skills, NPC corp standing and a 50% base output NPC station you can now actually get a 100% refinery output. . I respect your position, and I sincerely hope to see more null-sec buffs and features. But I can't agree with doing it at the expense of high-sec.
This was a display fix more than anything else. You could get 100% before but it would appear as 99.95% or something. This post was crafted by a member of the GoonSwarm Federation Economic Cabal, the foremost authority on Eve: Online economics and gameplay. |

Malcanis
Vanishing Point. The Initiative.
7680
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Posted - 2013.02.19 17:51:00 -
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In any case I am perfectly fine with hi-sec having plenty of production slots so long as CCP make production in 0.0 more efficient to compensate for the subsidies that hi-sec gets. Vote for Malcanis for CSM8 https://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=posts&t=192717&find=unread |

Lord Zim
2295
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Posted - 2013.02.19 17:56:00 -
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Amyclas Amatin wrote:A possible long-term improvement to player-owned outposts would be modular or upgradable outposts, just like the coming modular POSes. Perhaps billions of ISK could be invested to add yet even more research/manufacturing slots and/or improve refining efficiency. Considering there are absolutely no shortage of manufacturing slots within 2 jumps or less of Jita, and the fact that perfect refines are easy as pie to achieve, I'd love to hear what sort of improvements you think would actually be enough to make me bring my industrial capacity away from hisec and into nullsec? Where would I be getting my minerals from?
Amyclas Amatin wrote:I still disagree with nerfing high-sec production to create demand for null-sec production. As it is, the main reason for null production is a logistics base closer to home for the null alliances. There's no need to force the carebears into null using market pressure. High-sec industry players will hate it, a lot. I find it interesting how, whenever this topic is discussed, no matter how reasonably it is put, someone inevitably always comes up with "don't force carebears into null!".
I don't want to force carebears into null, since most people who categorize themselves as carebears tend to be whiny about anything resembling risk. I'd rather CCP actually made it possible for nullsec to compete with hisec, and I don't think a full, well-developed nullsec region (I'm sure someone can bother thinking up how many billions has been spent even just putting up stations over the years) should have issues even matching a single hisec system 2 jumps from Jita.
Amyclas Amatin wrote:I respect your position, and I sincerely hope to see more null-sec buffs and features. But I can't agree with doing it at the expense of high-sec. So given the fact that I can find a system in hisec within 2 jumps of Jita with more industrial capacity than most regions in nullsec, with perfect refinery, mostly safe transport etc, all for free (I call paying 2k to manufacture a maelstrom in 3 hours and in perfect safety "free"), what sort of buffs and features should nullsec get to incentivize people like me back into nullsec with my industrial alts? Keep in mind that we'd prefer to avoid powercreep if we can. Cyno's lit, bridge is up, but one pilot won't be jumping home. |

Malcanis
Vanishing Point. The Initiative.
7680
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Posted - 2013.02.19 18:00:00 -
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Lord Zim wrote:Amyclas Amatin wrote:
[quote=Amyclas Amatin]I respect your position, and I sincerely hope to see more null-sec buffs and features. But I can't agree with doing it at the expense of high-sec.
So given the fact that I can find a system in hisec within 2 jumps of Jita with more industrial capacity than most regions in nullsec, with perfect refinery, mostly safe transport etc, all for free (I call paying 2k to manufacture a maelstrom in 3 hours and in perfect safety "free"), what sort of buffs and features should nullsec get to incentivize people like me back into nullsec with my industrial alts? Keep in mind that we'd prefer to avoid powercreep if we can.
Even more than powercreep, we need to avoid being able to build a ship for less minerals than you can get from reprocessing it.
Really, if we want to make 0.0 production competitive with hi-sec, the only alternative to charging hi-sec producers vaguely realistic prices for using NPC facilities is for CCP to literally pay people to to produce in 0.0. Vote for Malcanis for CSM8 https://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=posts&t=192717&find=unread |

Lord Zim
2295
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Posted - 2013.02.19 18:01:00 -
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I was contemplating mentioning that. I'd make frigates and reprocess them all day erry day if it meant I made money. It wouldn't be very productive or healthy for the game, but I'd do it. Cyno's lit, bridge is up, but one pilot won't be jumping home. |

Lapine Davion
Outer Ring Applied Logistics
530
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Posted - 2013.02.19 18:39:00 -
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Dinsdale Pirannha wrote:Sorry, you won't be getting my vote. Our conversations have lead me to believe that you are the trying to play the "moderate" in the war of null sec against high sec.
Rest of the world, excuse the u.s.- centric analogy, but If the goons and their ilk are the Tea Party, you are Romney. The fact that you posted on the goons' version of Pravda DOES mean you are affiliated with them, or have like-minded views.
And their views on the game are well-documented, which is the destruction of all space that they cannot control in game. Putting you on the CSM would be no better, nor no worse, than most of the existing null sec mouthpieces.
I simply don't believe we need more null sec mouthpieces who espouse "balancing the game" at the expense of high sec. If we went with representation by demographics, fully half of the CSM would be high sec.
Instead, we are faced with likely 9-12 of the 14 being null sec zealots or so-called null sec "moderates", which although you have never called yourself one, you have certainly done the dance of one, until you are of course elected.
Wait wait wait, Dinsdale Pirannha is known for being able to use sarcasm as a weapon, so does this mean I can't take anything you say seriously? Don't worry about posting with your main! -áPost with your brain! "Never attribute to malice that which is adequately explained by stupidity." |
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Josef Djugashvilis
Acme Mining Corporation
1002
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Posted - 2013.02.19 19:27:00 -
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One often hears that there is no reason to leave the hi-sec 'bubble' as it has missions, wardecs, decent asteroids to mine, good manufacturing facilities etc.
Might it not be the case that if null-sec were to get decent manufacturing slots etc, that it might also become a self-contained 'bubble' in the Eve universe, with no need for the different 'bubbles' to interact?
I ask this, not because I do not think null-sec needs to be seriously buffed/overhauled, but because whatever is done, it needs to ensure that the different security levels need to interact as much as possible.
If I may ask Malcanis, how would you ensure that the interaction between the different security levels develop? This is not a signature. |

Malcanis
Vanishing Point. The Initiative.
7681
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Posted - 2013.02.19 21:24:00 -
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Josef Djugashvilis wrote:One often hears that there is no reason to leave the hi-sec 'bubble' as it has missions, wardecs, decent asteroids to mine, good manufacturing facilities etc.
Might it not be the case that if null-sec were to get decent manufacturing slots etc, that it might also become a self-contained 'bubble' in the Eve universe, with no need for the different 'bubbles' to interact?
I ask this, not because I do not think null-sec needs to be seriously buffed/overhauled, but because whatever is done, it needs to ensure that the different security levels need to interact as much as possible.
If I may ask Malcanis, how would you ensure that the interaction between the different security levels develop?
In the hypothetical case that productive professions were to become viable in 0.0 (and by that I mean it would be worthwhile to do them either in 0.0 or in hi-sec), the different nations, for want of a better word, will still value hi-sec as a place to trade their surplus production with each other and with hi-sec residents. This would be even more the case if the proposal to rebalance T2 production around regionally distributed R64s was put in place.
Additionally, there are always going to be comparitive advantages between hi-sec and 0.0. High end minerals and moon minerals will always be imported into hi-sec, and surplus low-end minerals will always be exported. And of course there are LP store goods.
The tl;dr is that there might be less total volume of trade - in fact there almost certainly will - but that's an acceptable price to pay for no longer forcing 0.0 to import virtually everything. We could equally well maintain that volume by forcing virtually all production out of hi-sec. Let your reaction to that alternative guide you as to how highly I value total trade volume. Vote for Malcanis for CSM8 https://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=posts&t=192717&find=unread |

Ms Sade
Hammertime Holding Division Nine Alliance
6
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Posted - 2013.02.20 22:39:00 -
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He gets my vote.
I don't have the time to put into 0.0 play but would like something more meaningful than missions and industry to do in high sec. |

Malcanis
Vanishing Point. The Initiative.
7751
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Posted - 2013.02.21 17:41:00 -
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CCP have announced their new voting system. Suffice it to say that I don't think it will deliver the results that they claim they want, which is not a big surprise given the problem was misidentified in the first place. The correct solution was and and still is to increase voter participation.
Since I am explicitly not running as a "bloc" candidate, it's likely that even if I do manage to get elected, I will be facing a heavily bloc-directed CSM membership. Whilst I am in favour of a rational rebalance of the sec zones, I don't subscribe to any kind of "**** hi-sec" ideology. I hope you will bear my balanced, constructive view of how EVE should be when casting your preference votes. Vote for Malcanis for CSM8 https://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=posts&t=192717&find=unread |

Noisrevbus
388
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Posted - 2013.02.22 00:11:00 -
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It is no larger secret that i almost always agree with you on the overarching theorem of this game. The abstract.
I would like to learn of your opinion on something very concrete though:
You, like me and many other voices in the spatial chatter right now, are a champion of "bottom up economy" (Farms and fields etc.).
However, what is your perspective on the "warchest economy" or the financial balance of the ship classes in the game?
I've argued, more and more recently, that the most severe issue in EVE is ramping up to be the malbalance of economy, as CCP set out to re-balance more and more ship classes without attention to economy at all.
If i am a moderately high SP player today, in a moderately sized alliance, i can fly a larger Tech I hull even with Tech I fitting and meet the demands of most things in EVE at the moment. I can take my BC or BS and meet most PvE challenges or slip it into a 100-man fleet and be incredibly effective on the PvP-side at large, while effectively erasing the ISK factor. This makes number of pilots and size of ships scale arbitrarily, which is what drives the profileration of upscaling to Coalitions and Capitals, that later deadlock.
Obviously, going completely bottomed-out is not what most players in the game do... but that's where the "powerbase" lie that allow subsiding resources at a whim and still remain cost-effective. The powerbase lie in the bottom, where bottomed-out Subcapitals free up resources for accumulation of Supercapitals, or where bottomed-out PvE-ships free up resources for accumulation of PvP-ships, and so forth.
How do you see these reservations in light of the "bottom up perspective"?
Do a Tech I subcapital ship with Tech I fitting present the meaningful small-gang target we want it to be?
Do you see the implications of this when compared to taking risks at undermanned engagement?
Do you see the further implications of how this feed the up-scaling that ultimately lead us to the Supercapital deadlock?
Ultimately i would argue that this is a scaling-issue and a form "handed-" or "placating" non-interactive perspective that both you and i are champions against. It's rooted in the inability to see that eg., Tech II Cruisers should not just be balanced to Cruisers, but also to larger ship classes. It interacts not only with Cruisers, but also with other classes that have a different financial scale. This is a perspective CCP have still not aknowledged despite allocating a fair amount resources to the current very ambitious re-balance initiative. It is also non-interactive in the sense that it stifles interaction between groups of different scales, when economy no longer provides a balanced resource-factor to volume.
I am all for moving content from infrastructure to ships in space, but the importance of those ships is also an important question that is often overlooked in the "bottom up economy" discourse. Many ships are not important at all, in the same way that alot of infrastructure is not important, at all.
A bottom-up economy with imbalanced creation-to-destruction would presumtively render a similar situation to that of Tech today, where the structures holding the moons are tedious but relatively cost-free and thus risk-free in themselves.
What is your perspective on this?
... and how would you prioritize it next to more resource-heavy and time-consuming issues commonly brought up (such as POS-rework, SOV-infra rework and Ring Mining) or artificial, non-interactive or punitive restrictions to the scaling issue (such as Wormholes, Capital spool-up, mass-limiters, local removal and Super nerfs)? |

Amyclas Amatin
EVE University Ivy League
7
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Posted - 2013.02.22 05:52:00 -
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After doing more research on the matter, I can see the problems with an over-attractive high-sec: particularly the "lack of a proper pvp foodchain" I concede that high-sec needs to be nerfed.
What do you think of this draft proposal: Proposal to declare war on individuals. |

Poetic Stanziel
Fweddit I Whip My Slaves Back and Forth
1725
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Posted - 2013.02.22 05:57:00 -
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You're seriously not on Twitter? A candidate who is not on Twitter is a candidate with no intention of communicating with the players. Amarr Militia - Fweddit - http://fweddit.com Poetic Discourse - http://poeticstanziel.blogspot.com |

Unforgiven Storm
Eternity INC. Goonswarm Federation
215
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Posted - 2013.02.22 09:14:00 -
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Hi Malcanis, just read all 21 pages of your thread so far, your articles and specially the high sec manifest. You write very well, clear thinking. I like it. I do not agree with every small detail but in general is very good and I can identify with it.
Since I'm running I should not be saying this, but you will make an excellent CSM member, I feel I'm not running against you but with you.
Hope I can get in and work with you in the CSM, with your vision for Eve, starting with high sec, and my determination to fix industry, Eve is going to become an awesome game to play in the next 10 years.
You will be in my top 5 pics for sure.
PS: I read your comment in my thread and post something, is not about difficulty, is about specialization. The Lazy Pilot - http://thelazypilot.wordpress.com/ |

Malcanis
Vanishing Point. The Initiative.
7777
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Posted - 2013.02.22 11:07:00 -
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Poetic Stanziel wrote:You're seriously not on Twitter? A candidate who is not on Twitter is a candidate with no intention of communicating with the players.
It's a little early to be breaking my campaign promises. Suffice it to say that you have your notions and I have mine, and mine do not include Twitter. Nor am I going to have my own website. I will communicate with the players about EVE & the CSM right here on the EVE-O website, not require them to go hunting about over the internet.
I'm also against trying to force complex questions and concepts into a 140 character limit. If you want soundbite politics, you can look elsewhere. Vote for Malcanis for CSM8 https://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=posts&t=192717&find=unread |

Malcanis
Vanishing Point. The Initiative.
7777
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Posted - 2013.02.22 11:09:00 -
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Unforgiven Storm wrote:Hi Malcanis, just read all 21 pages of your thread so far, your articles and specially the high sec manifest. You write very well, clear thinking. I like it. I do not agree with every small detail but in general is very good and I can identify with it.
Since I'm running I should not be saying this, but you will make an excellent CSM member, I feel I'm not running against you but with you.
Hope I can get in and work with you in the CSM, with your vision for Eve, starting with high sec, and my determination to fix industry, Eve is going to become an awesome game to play in the next 10 years.
You will be in my top 5 pics for sure.
The new voting system makes inter-candidate recommendations not only harmless, it actively encourages them. Thank you very much for yours.
Unforgiven Storm wrote:PS: I read your comment in my thread and posted something, is not about difficulty, is about specialization.
Thanks, I'll chase that up later.
Vote for Malcanis for CSM8 https://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=posts&t=192717&find=unread |
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Joran Dravius
Imperial Academy Amarr Empire
131
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Posted - 2013.02.22 21:19:00 -
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You'd know if you didn't have a 2012 birthday. |

Malcanis
Vanishing Point. The Initiative.
7784
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Posted - 2013.02.22 21:25:00 -
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Noisrevbus wrote:longpost
Hey! I'm supposed to be the wordy bastard in this thread!
What TZ are you on? I like to discuss this with you before posting a reply.
Vote for Malcanis for CSM8 https://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=posts&t=192717&find=unread |

Karl Hobb
Stellar Ore Refinery and Crematorium
1225
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Posted - 2013.02.22 21:36:00 -
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Malcanis wrote:I will communicate with the players about EVE & the CSM right here on the EVE-O website, not require them to go hunting about over the internet. As a tech geek from a simpler time, I want to personally thank you for this. I myself would argue that this is a key part of keeping communication with the playerbase simple and effective. If you're not already part of a bloc, this is the best guy for CSM8. |

Malcanis
Vanishing Point. The Initiative.
7785
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Posted - 2013.02.22 21:40:00 -
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Amyclas Amatin wrote:After doing more research on the matter, I can see the problems with an over-attractive high-sec: particularly the "lack of a proper pvp foodchain" I concede that high-sec needs to be nerfed. What do you think of this draft proposal: Proposal to declare war on individuals.
It's potentially interesting, depending on the exact mechanic. For some reason I cant quite put my finger on, it makes me uneasy. I feel that it's abusable somehow but I can't exactly articulate how (I'm sure it's nothing to do with this delicious Sancerre). Vote for Malcanis for CSM8 https://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=posts&t=192717&find=unread |

mynnna
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
464
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Posted - 2013.02.22 21:53:00 -
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Poetic Stanziel wrote:You're seriously not on Twitter? A candidate who is not on Twitter is a candidate with no intention of communicating with the players.
He's got twenty pages here - more than any other candidate so far, although he was one of the first to post - of him replying to questions. You could try not being disingenuous or making sweeping and absurd assertions every once in awhile, you know. This post was crafted by a member of the GoonSwarm Federation Economic Cabal, the foremost authority on Eve: Online economics and gameplay. |

Malcanis
Vanishing Point. The Initiative.
7787
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Posted - 2013.02.22 21:56:00 -
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mynnna wrote:Poetic Stanziel wrote:You're seriously not on Twitter? A candidate who is not on Twitter is a candidate with no intention of communicating with the players. He's got twenty pages here - more than any other candidate so far, although he was one of the first to post - of him replying to questions. You could try not being disingenuous or making sweeping and absurd assertions every once in awhile, you know.
Perhaps I could make future replies in acrostics, thus allowing me to simultaneously make complete and short replies? Vote for Malcanis for CSM8 https://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=posts&t=192717&find=unread |

Snow Axe
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
1005
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Posted - 2013.02.22 22:19:00 -
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Poetic Stanziel wrote:You're seriously not on Twitter? A candidate who is not on Twitter is a candidate with no intention of communicating with the players.
Twitter and its character limits are a huge barrier to actual non-one-liner communication. I'd take a forum presence over Twitter any day of the week. "Look any reason why you need to talk like that? I have now reported you. I dont need to listen to your bad tone. If you cant have a grown up conversation then leave the thread[" |

Poetic Stanziel
Fweddit I Whip My Slaves Back and Forth
1729
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Posted - 2013.02.22 22:21:00 -
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Snow Axe wrote:Poetic Stanziel wrote:You're seriously not on Twitter? A candidate who is not on Twitter is a candidate with no intention of communicating with the players. Twitter and its character limits are a huge barrier to actual non-one-liner communication. I'd take a forum presence over Twitter any day of the week. Many have both, plus more. Twitter is an easy way to get a hold of someone. For someone to link important announcement and posts. And to have some short conversations.
Amarr Militia - Fweddit - http://fweddit.com Poetic Discourse - http://poeticstanziel.blogspot.com |

Poetic Stanziel
Fweddit I Whip My Slaves Back and Forth
1729
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Posted - 2013.02.22 22:23:00 -
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mynnna wrote:Poetic Stanziel wrote:You're seriously not on Twitter? A candidate who is not on Twitter is a candidate with no intention of communicating with the players. He's got twenty pages here - more than any other candidate so far, although he was one of the first to post - of him replying to questions. You could try not being disingenuous or making sweeping and absurd assertions every once in awhile, you know. Yes. It's entirely absurd to be on the forums and Twitter. You're so absurd, Mynnna. Every major candidate, but Malcanis, is so damned absurd.
Amarr Militia - Fweddit - http://fweddit.com Poetic Discourse - http://poeticstanziel.blogspot.com |

Snow Axe
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
1005
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Posted - 2013.02.22 22:26:00 -
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Poetic Stanziel wrote:]Many have both, plus more. Twitter is an easy way to get a hold of someone. For someone to link important announcement and posts. And to have some short conversations.
The forums are an even better place of doing all of that.
Poetic Stanziel wrote:Yes. It's entirely absurd to be on the forums and Twitter. You're so absurd, Mynnna. Every major candidate, but Malcanis, is so damned absurd.
It's completely absurd to pretend that being on Twitter of all things is somehow important. If he (or anyone else) wants to, then fine, great, whatever but it's not even slightly important. "Look any reason why you need to talk like that? I have now reported you. I dont need to listen to your bad tone. If you cant have a grown up conversation then leave the thread[" |
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