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Icarus Narcissus
Kraken Industrial Holdings
Kraken.
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Posted - 2013.01.17 15:39:00 -
[931] - Quote
As a null sec resident, and a former resident on wormhole space, I believe changes to POSes will affect a large portion of the community whether they acknowledge these effects or not. Changes to POSes do not only affect their managers. If life is easier for the managers life is easier for everyone with access to that POS.
- Members of high security space looking to move out of high security space will have one less hurdle to move out. While some hurdles are good, this one is created entirely by broken game mechanics and overly complicated interfaces and roles. This is not the kind of hurdle Eve Online needs. I'd rather see skill (not necessarily SP), and locals be the hurdles they have to face.
- Members of high security space not looking to move out of high security space will have more ease in placing POSes in 0.5-0.7 space. This has a wide variety of implications including industrial and PvP incentives.
- Low security residents often use POSes as safe-spots since they are much less camp-able than stations. Although I feel low sec will actually be the least affected by such a change. (Note: this is also the least inhabited area of space and is truly the "small portion of the community".
- WHS dwelling pilots need not be mentioned as the impact such changes would have on them exceed all others.
- Sovereign Null pilots use POSes every single day. They use them as jump bridges, hiding spots, formup spots, places to store giant things they pretend don't exist on voice comms and places to conga line in peace.
- NPC Null pilots use POSes for everything mentioned in Sovereign Null except jump bridges with extra emphasis on conga lines.
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Angath Starfighter
Backwater Redux
Tactical Narcotics Team
3
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Posted - 2013.01.17 15:39:00 -
[932] - Quote
POS fix them |
Grimlan
Silver Guardians
Fidelas Constans
5
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Posted - 2013.01.17 15:39:00 -
[933] - Quote
yes its a ***** to set up a pos now pls change to a modular pos system ;) |
Siobhan MacLeary
BRG Corp
Ocularis Inferno
67
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Posted - 2013.01.17 15:40:00 -
[934] - Quote
The assertion that POS management only affects a small number of people is ludicrously fallacious. My entire corp as well as a scattering of subsidiary corps live in POSes managed by a small group of people who also happen to be the CEOs of these corps. All over EVE, POSes are in use by many people - wormholer bases, nullsec camps, hisec research bases, the list goes on.
Please, CCP. Fix POSes. |
Drifnir
Zealots of Bob
19
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Posted - 2013.01.17 15:40:00 -
[935] - Quote
Update the damn POS system already. Unless you're too busy thinking up new vocabulary and playing tiddlywinks.
Have a nice day. |
Thraia Arkadian
Risk Breakers
Fidelas Constans
4
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Posted - 2013.01.17 15:40:00 -
[936] - Quote
Heh.
The CFC hath laid claim to this threadnaught and decrees that POS' are **** that needs to be less ******. |
Justin Cody
Tri-gun
C0NVICTED
38
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Posted - 2013.01.17 15:40:00 -
[937] - Quote
Please CCP, for the love of your player base and the amount of time they spend ONLINING POS mods if you want to encourage the social aspect of the game let us put up a POS as a team and not drag it out as a one man job. Give us a better equity stake in these structures through better game mechanics.
it is a small but dedicated set of people managing these things and an even smaller set that actually sets them up or takes them down. Don't ignore this because it is hard. If this means Year 1 is spent re-factoring all of the crap code...then do it, as this only improves the quality of the game as a whole anyhow by removing bloat and improving standards as a whole. We will cheer you on the entire way.
This is step 1 in the next 10 years of EVE: better coding through growing a pair of balls. |
Renslip Darkdraught
Fweddit
I Whip My Slaves Back and Forth
50
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Posted - 2013.01.17 15:40:00 -
[938] - Quote
Just writing to confirm that POS's suck. Anytime my mind wanders to doing this I start up the google. What the google and the experience of others tells me is that POS's are fecal matter based. I hope much they be fixed.
Drunk tank, best tank. |
Rafe Pulsar
Backwater Redux
Tactical Narcotics Team
2
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Posted - 2013.01.17 15:40:00 -
[939] - Quote
Make poses a little smoother to work with |
Ammorn
Caldari Provisions
Caldari State
3
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Posted - 2013.01.17 15:41:00 -
[940] - Quote
Develop the modular POS system. |
Dubious Builder
Wildly Inappropriate
Goonswarm Federation
1
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Posted - 2013.01.17 15:41:00 -
[941] - Quote
Post & how about reworking roles for access to hangers & yeah some more hangers; seperate ones w/ more layers of security for mega corps |
Brakoo
Shiva
The Retirement Club
2
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Posted - 2013.01.17 15:41:00 -
[942] - Quote
POS Revamp Signed |
Alx Warlord
SUPERNOVA SOCIETY
Tribal Conclave
301
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Posted - 2013.01.17 15:42:00 -
[943] - Quote
Woa! i blinked and it is 900+ .... soon there will be a 1000 posts here!!!
Please read this! > New POS system (Block Built)
Please read this! > Refining and Reprocess Revamp |
G0hme
Lead Farmers
Kill It With Fire
65
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Posted - 2013.01.17 15:42:00 -
[944] - Quote
Even though they might not read this far, but thank you for basicly stating that we don't matter.
We dont need something new, we need to be able to garantee atleast some sort of security for our members assets. Its really simple, even transfering the CHA divions to SMAs would be an improvement, it wouldnt fix the problem entirely seeing as everyone with the same role would be able to access the same division, but its a start!
But thank your for forcing us to have 16 poses for a 100 man corp just to be able to provide some sort of security.
Also
"Outrageous u-turn CCP!
Because of the terrible security on POS we w-space corp are forced to exclude large parts of the player base from our recruitment. When we explained this to Greyscale and Masterplan last March they could see this hits your bottom line.
We don't want the whole company for a whole expansion.
We don't even need a whole new pos system.
WE NEED SECURE SHIP STORAGE.
Please give us access control lists on Ship Maintenance Arrays!"
Shook Eelm's hand at Fanfest 2012 |
Rich Pickings
My Little Pony - Friendship Force
1
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Posted - 2013.01.17 15:42:00 -
[945] - Quote
I agree Fix the pos system as its so outdated.
The management of the pos and corp access has always been a pain and more of a security risk than it was worth.
Maybe the pos defence system could do with a good revamp as well. |
L4ST
Helios Alliance
C0NVICTED
22
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Posted - 2013.01.17 15:42:00 -
[946] - Quote
my coalition, my alliance and my corp members are all going crazy about this because either they are directly affected or others around them drive them crazy about it.
"Doesn't affect enough players" - well as far as I can tell it affects at least:
GSF - 8920 Characters
RAZOR- 3464 Characters
FCON - 2390 Characters
SMA - 2136 Characters
LAWN - 1826 Characters
FA - 2428 Characters
TNT - 1408 Characters
EXE - 998 Characters
CO2 - 600 Characters
A.I.F - 1011 Characters
GENTS - 2083 Characters
Total: 27264 Characters
Assuming an absolutely exaggerating 7 characters average in alliance per person, this would still be be 3900 real people for the north western part of nullsec only directly or indirecly (which counts just as much, guys) affected. And I did forget some entities such as xix here. |
Blood Mage
Amok.
Goonswarm Federation
2
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Posted - 2013.01.17 15:43:00 -
[947] - Quote
My main experience with POSes came from when me and 5 IRL friends with around 10 accounts total decided to try life in a wormhole, after maybe a month or so all of us quit eve due to how much of a pain it is to use a pos on a daily basis and today only 3 of us have come back to eve since then |
fukier
RISE of LEGION
717
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Posted - 2013.01.17 15:43:00 -
[948] - Quote
yes please but not all at once...
if they are smart and do it in stages then they can work on other things and work on this aswell...
i just dont want another 18 month thing...
At the end of the game both the pawn and the Queen go in the same box. |
Lyriaka
Backwater Redux
Tactical Narcotics Team
1
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Posted - 2013.01.17 15:43:00 -
[949] - Quote
POS
FIX |
Ptrum
Di-Tron Heavy Industries
Test Alliance Please Ignore
4
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Posted - 2013.01.17 15:43:00 -
[950] - Quote
Please revamp |
Tetania
Wildly Inappropriate
Goonswarm Federation
21
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Posted - 2013.01.17 15:43:00 -
[951] - Quote
I have worked with and not worked with the POS system over my eve career. Currently I'm using it again for reactions.
It has ALWAYS appealed to me it is the real player housing of eve not captains quarters. I loved the Fanfest vision of POS something everyone could own from a relative new players ratting base through an industrialists factory complex to a nullsec block leader's super-capital harbour.
Structures in space is a mechanic which i firmly believe is aspirational to everyone but in it's current incarnation is only touching a small portion of the player base because it is so horrible.
And unlike every other mmo universe out there who have to instance their player owned structures eve has enough space that everyone can own their little piece in the trillions of trillions of AUs of space in this universe. (With some obvious exclusion zones and a decay system for unmaintained structures obviously)
So please commit to this feature for everyone. |
Perana
Wartime Piratical Industries
Black Flag Alliance
1
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Posted - 2013.01.17 15:44:00 -
[952] - Quote
YES
Even though it is inevitable that the masses will eventually want them to move around like the Star Wars Death Star. |
Yusul
GoonWaffe
Goonswarm Federation
1
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Posted - 2013.01.17 15:44:00 -
[953] - Quote
Others have said it better, but I just wish to add my support to the POS revamp. I haven't touched them in years of play due to the frequent horror stories and little perceived benefit. I had high hopes of the POS revamp reviving production in nullsec. I have no reason to reactivate my old industrial alt account as things stand now. |
Groperson
GoonWaffe
Goonswarm Federation
52
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Posted - 2013.01.17 15:44:00 -
[954] - Quote
POSes are an absolute nightmare to work with and it results in many people not wanting to use them, please fix them. |
MinionOfNorm
Amok.
Goonswarm Federation
1
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Posted - 2013.01.17 15:44:00 -
[955] - Quote
Please fix POSes. They have always been horrible and just because a station is better doesn't mean you can ignore them. You have made a sand box, give us better tools and more sand thank you. |
Sarell Ensa
Sigillum Militum Xpisti
Fatal Ascension
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Posted - 2013.01.17 15:45:00 -
[956] - Quote
POS's are pretty much the core infrastructure of this game. So few people use them because of how terrible they are.
Why did you revamp faction warfare when so few people used it?
Please make POS-revamp a priority. |
Xa Enyalius
House Harkconnan
13
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Posted - 2013.01.17 15:45:00 -
[957] - Quote
/Signed |
Bluelynx
Lead Farmers
Kill It With Fire
0
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Posted - 2013.01.17 15:45:00 -
[958] - Quote
Dear CCP,
If its hard, then make it grand! The potential for amazing thing coming out of POS redesign is unlimited. How about player owned modular villages gradually replacing NPC owned stations? A whole new realm of possibility for traders. More, and more meaningful conflict. Meaningful economic warfare. Highsec gameplay could be so much more than minerbumping and freighterganking. I can see a whole lot of potential to revitalize lowsec too.
Also from a pure company profit perspective there's a whole slew of vanity store type possibilities. I know some people on certain other MMOs that spend more time and (real) money on thier player owned house than they do on actual gameplay. There's potential here to suck in a whole other market segment that you dont even have yet. If you could somehow combine this with actual functioning walking in stations, my god i can only imagine how awesome it would be.
I can *only* imagine, because apparently its too hard.
On a more immediate level, could we at least have individual ship storage? You already have one module that has seperate storage for any player using it (POCO), would it really be so hard to adapt that for ship storage? (I know nothing about coding, and apologize if this is a grossly ignorant question). |
industrial oblitorator
I N E X T R E M I S
12
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Posted - 2013.01.17 15:46:00 -
[959] - Quote
 Hey CCP i dare you to listen to the players
 I mean what do we know , we only have poses as a major part of our game other than ships and stations.  Yeah you gave us walking in stations, so we could turn it off. So try something we want...  How many people burn out or get sick of EvE because of POSES ????? fix the damn poses
you can do it
http://www.eve-outtakes.de/industrial-oblitorator.jpg
Indy
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Jantunen the Infernal
O C C U P Y
101
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Posted - 2013.01.17 15:46:00 -
[960] - Quote
Posting for POS revamp. The reason why me, and probably many others, don't use POSes much is simply because it's such a pain in the arse with the current mechanics. I'd gladly set some up if doing so wasn't such torture. |
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