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Della Monk
Monastery of Drakes
38
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Posted - 2013.01.17 20:12:00 -
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SlapNuts wrote: There is nothing broken as my first post in this thread explains there are already the mechanics in this game.
Anyway, you do not have to agree with everyone here but you also do not need to make this your personal crusade, let ppl have their say and if you do choose to respond, try and do it without being insulating.
We can argue the semantics of 'broken' til the cows come home, but: You used to be able to set up 1v1s with a can anywhere. Now you would have to find a safe. Maybe not broken entirely, but I'd argue the functionality was diminished at the very least. |

URG thrash
Renegade Technologies Slacker Trade Federation Unlimited
6
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Posted - 2013.01.17 20:14:00 -
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Nothing wrong with yet another form of legal combat without concord getting involved :) Love it........ what took ya so long ccp ? :) just kidding ...... |

Elmanketticks
Fleet of the Damned Happy Endings
75
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Posted - 2013.01.17 20:17:00 -
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That was just what I told you to do in the Retribution survey yesterday, did you read my mind? Perfect! Thanks :) The State will not fall. Join us. Fight. Conquer.
edit: disregard that, the state has fallen. |

SlapNuts
Big Diggers
14
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Posted - 2013.01.17 20:19:00 -
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Tippia wrote:SlapNuts wrote:There is nothing broken as my first post in this thread explains there are already the mechanics in this game. GǪa mechanic that was broken by CW2.0 and which is now being restored to its pre-retribution state. Just because there were (incomplete) work-arounds for this broken state doesn't mean it was working properly. Again, this restoration was promised the same moment CW2.0 was presented, and now we have it. So why are people so upset that this return to the old system has happened as promised? The only reason I can think of is that neutral logis will be comparatively neuteredGǪ so far, I haven't seen any better explanation.
Let me point out that war dec corps already use a work around that does not flag neutral reps, they can be neutral to you but they could have a relationship with the others corp that that makes it so they do not flag when repping. I am not sure what you think has been fixed. If this mechanic is allowed in war decs, i do not see it not being there in this system, after all I assume it is the same code that allows corps to fight each other because of a war dec..
Bringing in a broken feature to replace a system already in place that is not broken does not make sence to me. |

Rordan D'Kherr
Imperial Academy Amarr Empire
404
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Posted - 2013.01.17 20:20:00 -
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Tippia wrote:Rordan D'Kherr wrote:So you want to ignore the point. Ok then. I would prefer to ignore irrational and unfounded concerns about unrelated topics, yes, because they areGǪ you knowGǪ irrational and unrelated. On might even say off-topic. But sure, indulge me: how does a restoration of lost functionality GÇö as promised GÇö relate to an implementation of instances and sectioned-off space and no-loss combat (which is what most arena requests are about, and why they never get any traction)? Oh, and why is it that people are so upset that this lost functionality is being restored, again as promised?
Not sure if you are trolling me, but:
What tells you that the new now official mechanic of consensual highsec pvp without concord interference and with a restriction towards players "outside" do not lead to a (even more) growing demand of arena pvp?
_______________________________________ Don't be scared, because being afk is not a crime. |

Ines Tegator
Towels R Us
215
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Posted - 2013.01.17 20:26:00 -
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Malrock wrote:All fine for fun, but please, put under game client generic options a checkmark for auto declining all duel requests.
Thank You.
So much this. Window-spamming is abusable in many forms (such as fleet invites), and there should be an option to murder it if we choose.
Speaking of which, you should also look at fleet invites. |

Sugar Kyle
The humbleless Crew Capital Punishment.
204
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Posted - 2013.01.17 20:27:00 -
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Someone asked earlier about displaying the won duels. I'd like to expand upon the concept of persistent information with duels to something like a character sheet entry (win/loss/duel) or maybe something on the kill report or even a notification sent.
The reason is for corporations like my own. One of the only rules we have is that you honor 1v1s or you will be kicked. If you don't want to honor it, don't take it and just kill them normally. I've had to go through chat logs before to figure out if the 1v1 was accepted or not when complaints have been made. It'd be nice to have a simple 'you said yes' notification to work off of.
If they can be honorable let us hold them to their honor? Tilde soaked words from something kinda like a pirate. |

Ozmodan
Starvin' Pilots Association The Serpents Eye Alliance
6
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Posted - 2013.01.17 20:29:00 -
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A truly dumb idea. I am going to risk losing my ship and contents in an uncontrolled environment? If you want to duel wander low-sec, easy to find someone willing.
We have corporate duels where we use cheap ships and equipment, and it is fun because everyone is relatively equal.
At least you included a box to block all the idiots that will be challenging you. |

Sable Moran
Moran Light Industries
108
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Posted - 2013.01.17 20:32:00 -
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Maxpie wrote:How about pets?
Yes please. I would like to have cats, the CQ feels a bit lonely at nights.
Maxpie wrote:like with every mechanic in Eve, people will find some way to abuse it.
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Angelica Scatterbrain
WH United
14
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Posted - 2013.01.17 20:35:00 -
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I distinctly hear someone shoveling sand out of the box. |

Warpshade
Warped Industries
37
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Posted - 2013.01.17 20:38:00 -
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With the new official "dueling" mechanic being put forward, I here by ask CCP for "Gauntlet" launchers!  |

Kaildoth
Generic Corp.
14
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Posted - 2013.01.17 20:43:00 -
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next step, battlegrounds... |

Eternal Error
Immortalis Inc. Shadow Cartel
288
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Posted - 2013.01.17 20:46:00 -
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While I want there to be a way to do relatively consensual 1v1s (since the last mechanic was stupidly removed due to some poorly though out crimewatch changes), this is dumb. This is Eve, not WoW. No duels, no arenas, none of that. |

Ganthrithor
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
469
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Posted - 2013.01.17 20:47:00 -
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Use of a swhat? |

James Amril-Kesh
4S Corporation RAZOR Alliance
3381
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Posted - 2013.01.17 20:51:00 -
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fukier wrote:James Amril-Kesh wrote:CCP Dolan wrote:Finally I can have truly honourable combat!
1v1 at the sun is now a real 1v1! Yeah, because you couldn't 1v1 with the current mechanics.  no you cant due to crimewatch... Yes, you can. It's very easy to have a 1v1 without anyone else interfering with the current Crimewatch mechanics. Phrases like "you can't nerf / buff X EVE is a Sandbox" have the same amount of meaning as "If this is a sack of potatoes then you can not carrot." - Alara IonStorm Want to enable BBcode on the forums? Here's how. |

Lord Azori
Team Pizza No Holes Barred
32
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Posted - 2013.01.17 21:00:00 -
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Iax Masali wrote:Can we also get some Tekken or Street Fighter sound for when the round starts and the Opponent dies?
"Flawless Victory" |

Steve Ronuken
Fuzzwork Enterprises
1078
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Posted - 2013.01.17 21:04:00 -
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James Amril-Kesh wrote:fukier wrote:James Amril-Kesh wrote:CCP Dolan wrote:Finally I can have truly honourable combat!
1v1 at the sun is now a real 1v1! Yeah, because you couldn't 1v1 with the current mechanics.  no you cant due to crimewatch... Yes, you can. It's very easy to have a 1v1 without anyone else interfering with the current Crimewatch mechanics. But whatever, we better have the ability to block ALL duel requests indiscriminately without blocking other forms of invites or communication at the same time. If we don't then I and many, many people will be quite pissed off. Furthermore all killmails resulting from this duel mechanic should be shown as such, although that's not as important.
Care to explain how?
And don't say 'warp to a safe, then have one go suspect'. Because if the other side want to, they can warp in. 'Be in the same Corp' isn't really an option either. FuzzWork Enterprises http://www.fuzzwork.co.uk/ Blueprint calculator, invention chance calculator, isk/m3 Ore chart-á and other 'useful' utilities.As well as mysql and CSV/XLS conversions of the Static Data Extract. |

Mara Rinn
Cosmic Goo Convertor Cosmic Consortium
2937
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Posted - 2013.01.17 21:05:00 -
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Just make sure the ability to block all duel requests is built in before you release this feature into the wild.
Oh, and instead of the swords, it would IMHO be cooler two silhouetted human figures back to back holding pistols. Day 0 advice for new players: Day 0 Advice for New Players |

Qaidan Alenko
State War Academy Caldari State
1387
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Posted - 2013.01.17 21:06:00 -
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Kaildoth wrote:next step, battlegrounds... Faction Warfare....  Go ahead,,,, Get your Wham on!!!
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Gincro
Incompertus INC Fatal Ascension
16
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Posted - 2013.01.17 21:10:00 -
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Another seemingly useless thing to be added to the context menu, I guess. |

Aurelius Harrison
Aperture Harmonics K162
16
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Posted - 2013.01.17 21:17:00 -
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Eternal Error wrote:While I want there to be a way to do relatively consensual 1v1s (since the last mechanic was stupidly removed due to some poorly though out crimewatch changes), this is dumb. This is Eve, not WoW. No duels, no arenas, none of that.
I think you read duel and stopped there. They aren't proposing a safe style of combat beyond anything other than two people being able to fight in high sec without drawing the ire of concord. The word arena doesn't show up in the blog at all.
As for the idea of leagues, these while brillant in my opinion should be organized by players and not by CCP. at least not with this system. If players want to organize leagues on their own to be able to fight in a semi-controlled enviroment then more power too them. I want EVE to remain as much a sandbox as the next person and veiw dueling as just another tool to play with in said sandbox. |

Schmata Bastanold
Black Rebel Rifter Club The Devil's Tattoo
551
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Posted - 2013.01.17 21:22:00 -
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Lex Lynn wrote:Is it possible to add a Friendly Duel check box that terminates the flag at structure? This would be a fantastic learning tool. :)
O... M... G...
You see? Magic bullets.
Because agreeing not to shoot further than armor is damn too hard. I am not my skills but... http://eveboard.com/pilot/Schmata_Bastanold |

Colonel Xaven
Decadence. RAZOR Alliance
240
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Posted - 2013.01.17 21:22:00 -
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Aurelius Harrison wrote: They aren't proposing a safe style of combat beyond anything other than two people being able to fight in high sec without drawing the ire of concord. The word arena doesn't show up in the blog at all.
So you can guarantee 100% that there won't come a 10vs10 "duel" in any future because it hasn't been mentioned yet. Brilliant. Thank you.
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Aurelius Harrison
Aperture Harmonics K162
16
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Posted - 2013.01.17 21:26:00 -
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Schmata Bastanold wrote:Lex Lynn wrote:Is it possible to add a Friendly Duel check box that terminates the flag at structure? This would be a fantastic learning tool. :) O... M... G... You see? Magic bullets. Because agreeing not to shoot further than armor is damn too hard.
Have to agree with Schmata Bastanold... The first rule of EVE has always been that if you aren't prepared to lose it then don't undock. |

Sugar Kyle
The humbleless Crew Capital Punishment.
205
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Posted - 2013.01.17 21:30:00 -
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And if someone comes and ganks you halfway through, all the better. Tilde soaked words from something kinda like a pirate. |

DiKKy Heartiez
Hearties Industrial Incorporated
1
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Posted - 2013.01.17 21:33:00 -
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k cool, plz fix pos, kthx |

Niveuss Nye
The Advent of Faith
5
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Posted - 2013.01.17 21:35:00 -
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I should add...
As long as I do not see a que that teleports me to Jitasong Gulch or Rens Valley, I am okay.
Instanced PvP killed what little sandbox PvP a certain other unnamed MMO had.
Fortunately, I do not think CCP would stoop to that. It would make the Jita riots look like nothing. |

Shinzhi Xadi
Royal Amarr Institute Amarr Empire
21
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Posted - 2013.01.17 21:40:00 -
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Gheyna wrote:When are we getting raids?
Already have them, try running Incursions. |

Nick Asir
Triple Helix Corporation
1
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Posted - 2013.01.17 21:41:00 -
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why not just introduce dummy ammunition like they use for dogfight training in the airforce.? |

Vincent Athena
V.I.C.E.
1516
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Posted - 2013.01.17 21:42:00 -
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Tippia wrote:SlapNuts wrote:Tippia, if all your going to do is spam ppl here your more in touch with WoW then you might think...try and be constructive and come up with something that actually contributes to this topic. I am. I'm asking a question that tries to shed a light on the rather unreasonable emotional response people have to things getting fixed. Apparently, no-one can come up with a rational answer. This mechanic was heralded in the exact same breath as CW2.0 was presented. The devs immediately covered their rears by saying that they wanted to retain the option for players to enter into some kind of structured ad-hoc engagements even after the change to theft flagging, and people kept asking for exactly this kind of thing to remedy that lossGǪ and to absolutely no-one's surprise, here we are: the old duelling mechanic reimplemented in a way that works within the new Crimewatch. So why are people so upset that lost mechanics are being reimplemented as promised? The only difference between old and new is under the new systems, the challenger can't call in neutral logis with impunityGǪ which makes me suspect that all this crying has nothing to do with duels being reinstated at all. Maybe I can answer that. 1) The old can flipping mechanic was added to allow pilots to shoot thieves. We figured out that it could also be used for duels. But it was not added to the game to permit duels. Now CCP spent Dev time and effort to add duels to the game. If they are willing to do that what else are they willing to add in the way of staged PvP? 2) Also my guess is many were glad to see can dueling go, as it removed staged PvP. They think it was a move in the right direction. By bringing it back, CCP has reversed course, and headed back to a bad area. 3) A low sec dweller with a -10 standing cannot go into high sec and do duels. To get PvP they got to wait for high sec dwellers looking for PvP to enter low sec. Now fewer of them will do so.
I personally think that if the Devs removed content we players enjoyed, then they have a responsibility to return it in some form. http://vincentoneve.wordpress.com/ |
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