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Begottenotmade	Posted - 2005.07.06 09:05:00 - [31] I'm wrong... the reason u won't reply u muppet is for the fact that I am right. Bring it m8,I hang around a2- and i'll smack you like the lazy punk you are.Either post something that has to do with the thread or stfu and come down so I can pod you a few times. thanks begotten
Steiner	Posted - 2005.07.06 09:11:00 - [32] I LUB this patch! Good Job CCP Big Kiss -Steiner Tsurokigaarai Corporation
Spaced Skunk	Posted - 2005.07.06 09:18:00 - [33] Edited by: Spaced Skunk on 06/07/2005 09:19:16 Before the patch came out, I was setting up a mining route...one of my corp members anchored some secures to a belt, there were 2.5-5K pirates, nothing too hard for my 2 med drones...now theres 5 5-10K pirates using missiles! Forcing me now to give up my perfect mining setup on my osprey to something more offensive....the cold war patch to me is forcing everyone to learn fighting skills...I aint bothered about there being soooo many jumps to get to a place anymore...I subscribed to this game because I thought I could choose what profession I become!
Tbone	Posted - 2005.07.06 09:28:00 - [34] Originally by: Begottenotmade hey, People that replyed with the normal...the raven is now balanced..etc etc. I bet you fly a turret based BS's.So no need to hear your same regurgitated retoric. I have 3 accounts n EVE one of them is tech 2 tempest pilot.So I know how the cookie crumbles both ways.The fact is turrets both tech 2 mods and skill have been out forever!! FOREVER..Turret tech 2 damage mods anyone?? That is the point.The raven might be more "balanced" problem is the main weapon that platform is ment to used is nerfed back to genesis...I mean coem the ** on you can't be so blind as to see this is on the not fair side..ffs i have played this game since beta.... so i know how to adapt.The fact of the matter is....this is not fair on any lvl..none.First Ew skills them missle skills... ffs then put 6 turret slots on the in raven so i have some other route to go for now... this is just stupid and i stand very firmly next to that statement as i did when they talked about doing this shyt. Adapting is one thing, being put back 3-4 months compared to all other bs users is bullshyt.At the moment the raven is a better vampire set up than anything else...how sad is that...Read the title of the raven.It's ment to be a hard hitting hard to kill ship.... and thats it.Now it sucks and untili have studied another 6-10 skills i won't be in comp. with any other in game bs's and that my people.. IS Bull **!! begotten Yeah and us other people, didnt get the skills needed til the time came for a patch. Give it up. You now gotta train skills we did. Missile users been complaining for months they wanted new skills. GUESS WHAT, you got them! Now take the time we took to train them and quit complaining. Everything is better balance now, and ravens still hit hard on a BS. So pvpers will just have to get use to it. 2 words - MIXED FLEETS. (hint - use frigs for frigs/cruisers). ----------------------------------------------- Unholy Killboard
Begottenotmade	Posted - 2005.07.06 09:44:00 - [35] yeah, Understood, again it's not what i'm talking about m8.It's the fact of the time it is.The fact that this is not tech II.These skills are tech I.They are being released with tech II....that alone tells you how ****** and late they are into the game.Thats what i am saying.Again i adapt and will many times in this game..ofc it's to late ..to whine etc. i'm not whining i'm simply stating hte fact of fairness and this my friend is NOT FAIR..simple as that. There was just introduced Tech I missles skils into the game close to 6 of them....not Tech II..Tech I.There has been no race or pilot that have had to do this until now... and this late into the game... i mean come on..thats just dumb.So please think of the full picture b4 posting.This " get with it and train like we had too" etc. don't cut it as this has never happened.Tech II and Tech I are sooo different.These are Tech I skills....and they are introduced 2 years into the game.Significantly nerfing Caldari pilots that choose to use missles.. bottom line. no more less. begotten
NoGun	Posted - 2005.07.06 09:52:00 - [36] NERF MINING!!! :) waits for the hate
Rogue Intake	Posted - 2005.07.06 09:53:00 - [37] Jesus Christ! i can't believe the amount of moaning and whining about the missile changes and supposed Raven nerf. You say that you are now 3-4months (or whatever) behind the turret users. How about thinking that you are 3-4 months ahead with assets and cash you have been able to hoard on the lvl 4 missions etc. The turret users haven't had as much luxury to go into lvl 4 missions and **** it like you's. Fine, you have training to do, but who the hell hasn't???? And although the turret based bs's have had their skills for a while and trained them up, does not mean they can go into lvl 4 missions like the raven used to, just count yourself lucky that you had 4 months of easy lvl 4 missions. I think the changes are good myself. It will make a nice change to see other Battleships exiting Rens Brutor Tribe Treasury station than Ravens. TBH, turret users still have it more difficult cos if they want tech 2 turrets on their BS's they have to train level 5 small medium and large turrets, as well as lvl 4 in the specializations. The Missile based players require just torpedo lvl 5 and the specialization lvl 1 onwards to fit them (I believe this is correct). The amount of gunnery skills required to make turrets even worth bothering takes ages to learn (motion prediction, rapid firing, surgical strike etc). It's only fair for the missile users have the same. So your cruise and torps won't hit small ships as well anymore. lol welcome to turretville where you'd be lucky to hit them at all. Just learn to live with it or escrow your stuff to Rogue Intake.. Adapt ppl, you'll never do the lvl 4 missions like you did.....get used to it, we have! Regards Rogue P.S. I fly Tempests, Apocs and Ravens.
Grainsalt	Posted - 2005.07.06 09:57:00 - [38] My god... In the time I found out about this nerf I had time to train up a Megathron AND train 2.5million skill points in gunnery... whilst I am using that for level 4's now while I now train up my missiles again... And BTW you can still level 4 with ravens, just means you cant do it in 1 pop while watching a movie anymore. ---------- Don't ask... really... just don't
ErrorS	Posted - 2005.07.06 10:02:00 - [39] Originally by: TheJay Originally by: Purgatori plz stop saying we had time to preparefor this... we didn't... missile skills ware introduced the same time with the nerf ...and those changes were announced months ago IIRC They've also been running for a while on the test server, have they not? wtf? how does that help us? skills on sisi? OH, THAT MAKES ALL THE DIFFERENCE. DAMN, IF I HAD ONLY KNOWN I WOULD HAVE HAD ALL MY SKILLS ON SINGULARITY TRAINED FOR WHEN THE PATCH CAME TO TRANQUILITY. don't be dumb.. and for the record, i love the missile changes and I love the patch. ________ I'm strict Caldari "The grass is always greener on the other side" - Maybe they're not as uber as you think? -ErrorS
Tawl	Posted - 2005.07.06 10:07:00 - [40] stop bloody moaning and play the game............ BAH! grow up, the world is still spinning aint it?...
Taho Ra	Posted - 2005.07.06 10:10:00 - [41] Uehh uehhh, i want do be feared again by BS, frigats, cruiser etc etc... Before the patch, a apoc, could be raped by a few frigates or interceptors, and he couldnt do anything just miss miss miss Raven (with just a few skill points in missel), would probably kill all the frigates and interceptors or they had to warp away. Raven are still POWERFULL, but not agains all ships like they use to, if you where a tackler and you had to go and scambler a raven you will always think "im going to die" if it has other BS you wouldnt think that... Raven still do the same damage agains BS and more damage because of the speed of the torp, and they still are one of the harder ships on 1on1. Balance sucks doesnt it...
Gamer4liff	Posted - 2005.07.06 10:11:00 - [42] its a bit too late for this! you should have read the forums more if you didn't like the coming changes. where were you 2 months ago? Also yeah, raven is much more innefective for pve, if you had read the forum and saw it comeing you would have trained up gunnery skills and just given up on missles for PvE purposes.
Erik Pathfinder	Posted - 2005.07.06 10:18:00 - [43] All in all a great patch, especially the missile changes. I do think the fitting requirements for standard launchers and rocket launchers is out of whack though. Also, CCP could have spared a lot of grief by releasing some of these skill early (sans bonuses of course, activated after patch day) most especially the flight time / flight speed skills, seeing as how those have been reduced significantly. I'm sure you would all agree that allowing players to prepare skills for a patch is more fair. Since their bonuses wouldn't be activated until after patch, there wouldn't be any unfair advantage and it would still be time spent training those skills instead of something else. ------ (\_/) (O.o) (> <)
Chippie MS	Posted - 2005.07.06 10:29:00 - [44] Originally by: Begottenotmade Edited by: Begottenotmade on 06/07/2005 09:13:12 Edited by: Begottenotmade on 06/07/2005 09:12:38 I'm wrong... the reason u won't reply u muppet is for the fact that I am right. Bring it m8,I hang around a2- and i'll smack you like the lazy punk you are.Either post something that has to do with the thread or stfu and come down so I can pod you a few times. thanks You probably wont be able to hit him now. Anyway hard work for raven???? I spent 2 weeks training for a raven so i could rat easily and then i spent oooooo i dunno about 6 months so i could get a poc/geddon at a good stage. You know what else........ ah forget it go get me a beer and shut up. ------------------------------------ There's one *** in the world, one *** with many faces
Begottenotmade	Posted - 2005.07.06 11:21:00 - [45] Edited by: Begottenotmade on 06/07/2005 11:26:39 NEW FLASH NOT EVERYONE WITH A RAVEN HUNTS NPC OR MISSIONS...lol come with yet another excuse.. It's not fair how they did it plain and simple.. and i did *** about this ** 2 months ago....So again...stop wasting peoples time tryign to psot excuses why it was or could be considered fair. begotten P.s. chippie come to me and get the beer m8, and i'll gladly get one for you....bring a decent ship too..mm kay.
Aturayd	Posted - 2005.07.06 11:32:00 - [46] I dont know where you are getting this that the raven was overpowerful in pvp. Maybe in running agent missions but it was the worst ship tbh in pvp. Any small group of gunships would just love running into a couple ravens because A, tanks never last in group fights, B, missiles were slower than sh!t so by the time they came close to hitting, the target raven would warp or the missiled target would warp and the whole stream was a a waste. Now at least they have more of a chance of hitting, and at least you have to put a little more thought into your setups instead of just 6 seige and a cargo full of torps cruise and fofs. ----------------------------------- about:blank
Xymbias	Posted - 2005.07.06 11:59:00 - [47] What i personally hate about these patches, it's that you have to train up a **** load of skills just to get back to where you were before the patch...
Lufio II	Posted - 2005.07.06 12:05:00 - [48] Originally by: Xymbias What i personally hate about these patches, it's that you have to train up a **** load of skills just to get back to where you were before the patch... if you train the skills completely you're actually better off than before the patch... MSSI Forums Provider of Prorator Blockade Runner Transport Ships in Domain
Lyra VX	Posted - 2005.07.06 12:27:00 - [49] Originally by: Begottenotmade NOT EVERYONE WITH A RAVEN HUNTS NPC OR MISSIONS...lol come with yet another excuse.. It's not fair how they did it plain and simple.. and i did *** about this 2 months ago....So again...stop wasting peoples time tryign to psot excuses why it was or could be considered fair. I don't get it. Ravens are still going to be the best damage dealing battleship against other battleships. They can still punch cruisers hard enough to make them think twice. Are you getting **y because you can't 2-hit-kill interceptors anymore?
Suze'Rain	Posted - 2005.07.06 13:09:00 - [50] personally, as a raven pilot, the nerf was a long time in the coming, and well deserved. what, I'm personally irked by is that light/standard missile launchers have been absolutely murdered. seige launchers having a 25% powergrid increase rather pales into insignificance over the 266% increase on a standard launcher - not least because they've been hit a lot harder, and in ships like frigates that have much less leeway in their PG usage - a BS you might have 1-200pg spare, a frig, 1-2PG is priceless, and this patch has wrecked an awful lot of frigates much harder than the raven players. That's the thing that's rather anoyed me, personally, particularly as I consider frigs to be the "fun" ships for the game, and it's taken out most of the fun. (and a little shame that the missile speeds mean my interceptors can't outrun missiles any more. I used to love orbiting so fast that missiles were chasing me... always made me laugh...)S.
Begottenotmade	Posted - 2005.07.06 13:22:00 - [51] hey, FFS people read what i type.....all of my posts explain time and time again what my beef is...ffs...and you still don't get it!!!Still talking about the raven not being uber..or good for this or that... use visine or what ever you have to clean your eye's out and read the **in post.... The skills and the time it takes to train THEM... HELLO..is that so hard to understand or are you choosing to be dumb?We are talking about Tech I skills that got dropped on us...needing to be trained ot at east lvl 3's to even be close to where we were...not better...not as good.. sort of the same...We have 6 or so Tech I skills that we have to train...and no the raven won't be that much better after they are trained.Only thing that will be betteris the speed.The rest will be worse or the same..most being worse...mmm KAY. So ffs get off the "omg ur raven is not uber" alrdy.Read a full post if you want to ***** comment here FFS... begotten
Marcus Aurelius	Posted - 2005.07.06 13:29:00 - [52] When the turret tracking changes hit a year ago alot of turret users had to train up a lot of tech1 skills to ge too reasonable efficiency as well. Hell, they still aren't asw efficient as they once were even with every conceivable skil at lvl 5. Now, the skills you need to train to be at acceptable level of efficiency again (and acceptable being lower then pre-patch yes), is a few days, not more. I suggest you get started and stop whining.
Ryy Kishin	Posted - 2005.07.06 13:44:00 - [53] Waaaaaaaaaa boohoohoo they took away my win button Take off the diapers ladies stop crying train the skills, adapt and overcome. Live Hard Die Young Leave A Good Looking Corpse!
Begottenotmade	Posted - 2005.07.06 14:02:00 - [54] hey, Thanks for nothing; both of you arse hats!!!I have the skills atm at lvl 2's and working my way up.Still don't change the facts.!!! This is unfair...not a whine..or a rant.. just a fact you noobies. Those tech I turret skills you talk about havign to train fromt he start..lol!!!...WERE IN GAME FOREVER YOU MUPPET....so again read what is typed and come with a better reason why this is fair... ffs.You guys are just throwing shyt out without thinking I suggest you think b4 you post ffs. and boo hoo like I said b4 you idiot.. I have three accounts only one based on caldari so I'm not that hurt by this...but the fact is it is unfair.. BOTTOM LINE. begotten
Adonis 4174	Posted - 2005.07.06 14:09:00 - [55] Are Gallente piloting Caldari ships or something? Eve has never been fair. Fairness doesn't even enter into the Caldari mindset. So it's our turn to suffer, so our missile turrets are developing faults and the fixes reduce their effectiveness. In the end it doesn't matter, because we are Caldari and will never let little things like this hold us back. Adapt or die. It's not merely an adage, it's a way of life to us. -- I've seen things you people wouldn't believe Attack ships exploding near the fifth belt of Airaken I watched lasers glitter in the dark near the Korsiki gate All those moments were pretty
Scrofalitic One	Posted - 2005.07.06 14:11:00 - [56] Begotten, Would you prefer that CCP did nothing to rectify an imbalance? All you seem to be worked up about is that the skills are level 1 skills, well surely this is better? Will take less time to train, no? They could eaasily have made all the new skills advanced ones, requiring at least level 4 in other skills first, but didn't. Be grateful that we have devs & creative team who will CHANGE WHAT IS WRONG, even if that does mean putting in a load of level 1 skills. Personally I'd far rather that every 8 - 12 mionths they do a substantial tweak to further balance the game, than just say "Meh, oh well, we got it wrong 12 months ago but can't chgange anything now because it will make it look like we are still altering a beta program". Maybe (even after reading your rants repeatedly) I am still missing your point. Aleways possible :)
Ryy Kishin	Posted - 2005.07.06 14:19:00 - [57] This was taken from another thread. 36hrs is not long to train skills to get things to the way they were. To get back to pre patch Damage over time will take approx 12 hours (Rapid launching 3 and Warhead upgrades 2). To double your damage against frigs will take approx another 12 hours (Guided Missile precision 3 and Target Navigation prediction 2) To Double your range will take another 12 hours (Missile Bombardment 3, Missile Projection 2). So in 36 hours (of which 12 is already done) you can get back to seriously wtfpwning. JUST THIRTY SIX HOURS TO BASICALLY DOUBLE YOUR EFFECTIVENESS. After that, all further training makes you BETTER than pre-patch. Live Hard Die Young Leave A Good Looking Corpse!
Tanakka	Posted - 2005.07.06 14:31:00 - [58] CCP, How could you do this to us?!?!? How can you change things? DOnt you understand that change is bad? Why cant you just leave everything alone and let us enjoy the game. That way, in about 6 months to a year, all of these annoying people would leave the game and leave us l33t players alone to enjoy it. That would give us an 6 blissful change free months before CCP realizes the player base had shrunk below profitable levels. You whinners dont think thats exactly what would happen without change? Look at how many great "Game of the year" winners are still going strong and unchanged after a year or two. Change is life people. If you cant deal with that, get a therapist and a stand alone game and have at it.
zaged	Posted - 2005.07.06 15:52:00 - [59] Edited by: zaged on 06/07/2005 15:53:09 ohhh raven pilots complaining? what about typhoon pilots eh? they have to train up missile skills aswell + they already had to train gunnery + alot of drone skills to make use of the nice and large dronebay.... Ohh damn i forgot, now we also need to train up drones to keep up. No worries tho, i will adapt In other words : dont think your the only ones affected and stop whining thx :)
mematar	Posted - 2005.07.06 17:53:00 - [60] listen i dont care really that they nerfed the missles but i do see the only thing i hate is yea they told us they were going to but how could we prepare we did not have the skills to prepare for it. all we could do is sit there.im training to be in a mega and ishtar now so i dont care it will take me about 10days but all u turrent users shouldnt even be saying anything because u dont fly missles if u did hey kewl say what u got to, but if u are a turrent user stop talking lol more balanced yea right how do u call this more balanced i use to beable to kill a 8/10 compex now i cant even kill a dread spawn alone anymore. see atleast when u turrent users supposedly got nerf atleast u guys can still kill alone lol us ravens cant. see i dont care that they did it now im going to gallente but its the fact they made the best ship the worst ship and that isnt even kewl but hey crap happens.like i said before if they had given use the skills before this to prepare EVERYTHING would be different but they didnt flat out and that was a mistake.

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