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Terrorfrodo
Renegade Hobbits for Mordor
391
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Posted - 2013.01.25 22:43:00 -
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I like it. . |
Boston Bradley
Saturday Night Palsy Catastrophic Uprising
43
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Posted - 2013.01.25 23:29:00 -
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I beg you, can we PLEASE GET A NEW DRONE UI!
The current one is a headache to deal with if you're an OCD neat freak like me.
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JamesCLK
284
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Posted - 2013.01.25 23:58:00 -
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Awesome stuff!
Now if only Stargates weren't on the opposite side of the system in relation to the route... Malcanis, Marc Scaurus,-áMynnna and Ripard Teg for CSM 8! |
Seismic Stan
373
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Posted - 2013.01.26 00:32:00 -
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Bravo, it's looking really slick. I'm loving the visible warp route. I often have a little trouble finding it though, even if I look in the direction the stargate is pointing (I often have to look both ways cos I can never remember which way some of the stargates fire). It makes me wonder if it sometimes fails to render. this is intermittent and may just be me being blind.
The collapsible widget system is wonderful, I really hope we see this technology implemented elsewhere. Perhaps the Planetary Interaction UI and even the overview in some way?
One thing I think would be intuitive to include in the autopilot menu is a manual 'set destination' entry field. The current radio buttons etc. are great for managing an existing autopilot route, but there doesn't seem to be any logical way of setting up a new route without opening other UI elements to 'right click - set destination', which once again starts using up screen real estate. Freebooted - Tech4 News - Incarna: The Text Adventure - Guild Launch EVE Correspondent |
Philosoph Tzestu
Ships with Slingshots
2
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Posted - 2013.01.26 00:40:00 -
[125] - Quote
Very rarely do I like everything in a dev post, but this all seems awesome and incredibly useful for everyone!
Can't wait to see it implemented! |
Tierere
Federal Defense Union Gallente Federation
9
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Posted - 2013.01.26 01:23:00 -
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'Show route path in space' shows the way to the future!
Ummer or how it could look, as a couple of people have also indicated the fact that the stars in the background are 'real' should be made more use of in the future.
Currently the star map, solar system map are very awkward to use and map browser is almost useless. Imagine if on the hud to the left next to the tactical overlay button there was enable map features... Then when enabled all the 'World Map Control Panel' features could be overlaid in space. While in this mode it would be great to be able to zoom out and highlight the solar system view, constellation, region and universe view then back again. Darn even if things like scanner probes could be moved around then it would actually feel like scanning in space or if we could see the directional scanner sweeping through space in the direction we are scanning.
This would actually make using the map a pleasurable experience as well as contributing to the emersion of being in space.
Looking forward to more :) |
Lan Staz
Sebiestor Tribe Minmatar Republic
22
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Posted - 2013.01.26 02:01:00 -
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I've been sitting here with "Show route path in space" selected, switching the autopilot between "Prefer shorter" and "Prefer safer". It is a wondrous experience to be able to really see the difference. Bravo. |
Morgan North
The Wild Bunch Electus Matari
104
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Posted - 2013.01.26 02:19:00 -
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Lyta Jhonson wrote:First, I'm agree with the voiced opinions that those panels would be better implemented as movable windows and/or accessed via neocom instead of icons which permanently stuck on the screen. Now few little suggestions for autopilot: Autopilot panel has been around for a couple of years but I (don't know how widespread this is) still can't get used to one aspect of those colored boxes: where is start of the route and where is the end? It's supposed to be obvious that writing direction from right to left is used but for some reason it's always confusing at the first glance. So what about adding eighter "Next" and "Dest" labels to make it easier to get direction (Fig. A.1) or an icon of spaceship at the beginning of the route to denote current position (Fig. A.2)? Or replacing boxes with the arrows (Fig. A.3)? Another feature that will help traders remotely manage their orders and query regional prices would be a way to see region boundaries on the route like it is shown on the Fig. B.1 (looks better imho) or Fig. B.2 (probably would be easier to implement). Picture: http://img6.imageshack.us/img6/2953/44100813.pngAlso, looking at the mockups of future panels it looks like you are aiming for quite high degree of customizability so it may be worth asking for an option to hide constellation information from autopilot route and current location panels (show "SYSTEM SS < REGION" instead of current "SYSTEM SS < CONSTELLATION < REGION")? I play EVE for 9 years and can't imagine why one would be interested in constellation info (maybe for incursions only?) while hiding it will improve interface clarity.
That, is very very sexy.
I particularly enjoy A3 + B1, and it'd do wonders for me.
It'd do even MORE WONDERS if there was a colour bar on top of the regional/system for faction! |
Marl Shawn
Global Economy Experts Stellar Economy Experts
4
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Posted - 2013.01.26 02:41:00 -
[129] - Quote
All hail not just appearing in arbitrary locations!
Now just put system bookmarks in that system location entries panel and I will be a happy wormholer indeed. |
Wanderinlost
Task Force MK7
2
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Posted - 2013.01.26 03:09:00 -
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Sweeeet! |
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Djakku
Pod Liberation Authority Exodus.
127
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Posted - 2013.01.26 03:13:00 -
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CCP Optimal wrote:Djakku wrote:Please provide an option to disable all, if not, most of it.
It takes up space needed for more useful UI elements like watch list, fleet window, cargo, local etc. This can be very frustrating in PvP. Especially for players who don't have large monitors. If that's what you want, just collapse everything, leaving just the icon strip at the top.
thanks! |
Iam Widdershins
Project Nemesis
788
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Posted - 2013.01.26 04:34:00 -
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One of the most important things you guys could do to make this really come together for me would be to make the info panels (and thus solar system info, etc.) be movable to the right side of the screen, same as the neocom. Some of us have become accustomed to having our overview on the left side of the screen... at least on some windows: I play with windows overlapping the middle of a large screen and want to be able to see both overviews and locals, but currently I have to minimize the overview on the left hand client if I want to so much as look at the autopilot breadcrumbs.
It's a pretty simple and unifying feature to implement; if you could make this happen I'd be ever so pleased. Lobbying for your right to delete your signature |
Vaerah Vahrokha
Vahrokh Consulting
3746
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Posted - 2013.01.26 08:19:00 -
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Are the "Show info" windows included in the "Info panels"?
Because if it's so, please let them be shift clicked like in the past to open a new instance, industrialists need to see multiple BPOs / BPCs open to read the sub-components and compare the stats. Auditing | Collateral holding and insurance | Consulting | PLEX for Good Charity
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Iam Widdershins
Project Nemesis
788
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Posted - 2013.01.26 09:08:00 -
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Vaerah Vahrokha wrote:Are the "Show info" windows included in the "Info panels"?
Because if it's so, please let them be shift clicked like in the past to open a new instance, industrialists need to see multiple BPOs / BPCs open to read the sub-components and compare the stats. What. Lobbying for your right to delete your signature |
FoxFire Ayderan
EVE University Ivy League
18
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Posted - 2013.01.26 09:11:00 -
[135] - Quote
Fantastic improvements and new features.
This is the kind of stuff that really makes EVE an awesome MMO.
So many just ignore things like UI improvements and features.
I'm very much looking forward to these. |
Pirmasis Sparagas
Final Fortress Happy Tree Fiends
21
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Posted - 2013.01.26 09:17:00 -
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Sorry Devs, but the secret about stars, was not secret for me :) I knew it was real solar systems in the background, then they first appeared with the new background. How? Then you are near stargate, and it's "teleportation beam" (don't know how it's called) shoots straight to the next solar system. And it's in every stargate.
Cool stuff by the way! |
Mariner6
Agony Unleashed Agony Empire
106
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Posted - 2013.01.26 13:18:00 -
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Nicely done. Looks great. |
Saede Riordan
Alexylva Paradox
3182
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Posted - 2013.01.26 14:05:00 -
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Looks amazing \o/
I have been asking for a lot of this stuff for ages
Torn from grace, gotta find your faith or the devils gonna claim your soul
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COMM4NDER
Legendary Umbrellas Li3 Federation
118
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Posted - 2013.01.26 14:36:00 -
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Who will be the first one with painting a **** with stars? Features & Ideas Tag shortcuts - Make an FC enjoy his position more! Overview - Show fleet members only! |
Mars Theran
Red Rogue Squadron
1606
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Posted - 2013.01.26 15:12:00 -
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CCP Arrow wrote:We hope you like the Info Panels! We would very much like to develop the 'Work in progress' stuff in the blog so please give us your thoughts on those too.
Yes, the WiP stuff looks excellent. Please do. zubzubzubzubzubzubzubzub |
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Morgred
Mordu's Military Industrial Command Mordus Angels
0
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Posted - 2013.01.26 15:42:00 -
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"will reveal one of our best kept secrets; the stars in the space scene nebula actually represent the solar systems of New Eden."
i knew there was something going on when the jumpgates shot a beam at the brightest star in view....
anyways this isnt really relevant to panels but can we add a search feature for ice belts in the starmap? as it is we can find regular belts, stations, services, and star stats like kills/pods/population/securitystatus. but we cant find the nearest ice belt. |
Maul555
Nuts and Vindictive Remix Technologies
317
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Posted - 2013.01.26 16:19:00 -
[142] - Quote
At first I was all like, "oooh, cool updates!"
But then I saw this: http://cdn1.eveonline.com/www/newssystem/media/64141/1/route_WEB.png
And now I am all like, "freaking epic!" |
Tedric
Genco Fatal Ascension
9
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Posted - 2013.01.26 18:26:00 -
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Dear CCP,
Your capitalisation of non proper nouns or words that are not in the first position in a sentence (or a fragment of a sentence) is really annoying the ^^~}{ing &*!"@ out of me. It also makes you look stupid. I have long wondered where this fad came from (still don't know, but I suspect it is American in origin).
For example:
Prefer Safer - Stay in 0.5 to 1.0 Where Possible
should be:
Prefer safer - stay in 0.5 to 1.0 where possible
Further examples:
Avoid Systems on Your Avoidance List Avoid systems on your avoidance list
Disable Autopilot at Each Waypoint Disable autopilot at each waypoint
Clear All Waypoints Clear all waypoints
Prefer Shorter - Ignore Security Status Prefer shorter - ignore security status
What really is bad capitalisation is "All", "Ignore", "Your" and "Each" amazing!
The dropping of the full stop, I kind of accept as it does clutter things up slightly. I'm not going to start on hyphenation as there is almost no correct answer for this.
CCP, please take some antibiotics to fix this disease you have picked up in the last few years.
A year or two ago you wrote a very good blog about the language engine that provides different languages in EVE. It sounds like this needs to be tweaked.
Yours,
Tedric (who himself is crap at English grammar).
Edit: changed non-nouns to non proper nouns. |
Dersen Lowery
Laurentson INC StructureDamage
408
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Posted - 2013.01.26 18:40:00 -
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Tedric wrote:Avoid Systems on Your Avoidance List Avoid systems on your avoidance list
Disable Autopilot at Each Waypoint Disable autopilot at each waypoint
Clear All Waypoints Clear all waypoints
Prefer Shorter - Ignore Security Status Prefer shorter - ignore security status
So you've never heard of title caps? They're doing it right.
Malcanis for CSM 8 |
Synthmilk
The United Peoples of Synth
17
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Posted - 2013.01.26 18:50:00 -
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Lyta Jhonson wrote:First, I'm agree with the voiced opinions that those panels would be better implemented as movable windows and/or accessed via neocom instead of icons which permanently stuck on the screen. Now few little suggestions for autopilot: Autopilot panel has been around for a couple of years but I (don't know how widespread this is) still can't get used to one aspect of those colored boxes: where is start of the route and where is the end? It's supposed to be obvious that writing direction from right to left is used but for some reason it's always confusing at the first glance. So what about adding eighter "Next" and "Dest" labels to make it easier to get direction (Fig. A.1) or an icon of spaceship at the beginning of the route to denote current position (Fig. A.2)? Or replacing boxes with the arrows (Fig. A.3)? Another feature that will help traders remotely manage their orders and query regional prices would be a way to see region boundaries on the route like it is shown on the Fig. B.1 (looks better imho) or Fig. B.2 (probably would be easier to implement). Picture: http://img6.imageshack.us/img6/2953/44100813.pngAlso, looking at the mockups of future panels it looks like you are aiming for quite high degree of customizability so it may be worth asking for an option to hide constellation information from autopilot route and current location panels (show "SYSTEM SS < REGION" instead of current "SYSTEM SS < CONSTELLATION < REGION")? I play EVE for 9 years and can't imagine why one would be interested in constellation info (maybe for incursions only?) while hiding it will improve interface clarity.
Your confusion comes from thinking that EVE uses a right to left system to order things. Because the default language EVE is designed for is English, and it's interface is designed to follow English standards, text and interface elements are default ordered beginning on the left, end on the right.
Perhaps this is a problem for the localization team? To have lists in the interface oriented according to language standards? Because personally, we already have a unique icon to indicate which system in the list is the destination, so I don't see a need for further hand holding to help us figure this out.
As for the dev blog, I love all these changes, especially the visible route in the stars. THAT is the kind of interface I'm looking forward to seeing more of! |
Benjamin Hamburg
Kernel of War Goonswarm Federation
7
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Posted - 2013.01.26 19:01:00 -
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this is what we want, simplier UI and cool stuff even if it's not big features
Next thing you should adress is spreadsheet-like overview. Make it a dynamic menu with configurable setting like these present change and eve ui will shine |
Tek Handle
Vanishing Point. The Initiative.
30
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Posted - 2013.01.26 20:01:00 -
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Very nice! Few suggestions:
The compact mode of the AP is missing the "Jumps to go", which is by far the most important info if you're moving in a fleet! Also, it makes a lot more sence to me to display the destination instead of the next system on the route. You can see the next system in space anyway if you're looking at the overview - yellow stargate! Another option would be to hide const & region in compact mode and simply display next system, destination, jumps to go in one line.
Regarding that awesome wip: http://content.eveonline.com/www/newssystem/media/64141/1/GOD2.png Will it be possible to rightclick the celestials in the list and have all the options available which you also have at the space context menu, but w/o going thru all the sub menus to moon x on planet y at z distance? |
Tedric
Genco Fatal Ascension
9
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Posted - 2013.01.26 20:22:00 -
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Dersen Lowery wrote:Tedric wrote:Avoid Systems on Your Avoidance List Avoid systems on your avoidance list
Disable Autopilot at Each Waypoint Disable autopilot at each waypoint
Clear All Waypoints Clear all waypoints
Prefer Shorter - Ignore Security Status Prefer shorter - ignore security status So you've never heard of title caps? They're doing it right.
Nope. Time to do some reading. |
Vertigo Ren
Estrale Frontiers Project Wildfire
9
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Posted - 2013.01.26 20:56:00 -
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Quote:Another neat new feature, which is toggled through the new autopilot settings menu by selecting GÇ£Show route path in spaceGÇ¥, will reveal one of our best kept secrets; the stars in the space scene nebula actually represent the solar systems of New Eden.
This is something I didn't know I wanted and absolutely need! |
Maul555
Nuts and Vindictive Remix Technologies
317
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Posted - 2013.01.26 22:04:00 -
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Tedric wrote:Dersen Lowery wrote:Tedric wrote:Avoid Systems on Your Avoidance List Avoid systems on your avoidance list
Disable Autopilot at Each Waypoint Disable autopilot at each waypoint
Clear All Waypoints Clear all waypoints
Prefer Shorter - Ignore Security Status Prefer shorter - ignore security status So you've never heard of title caps? They're doing it right. Nope. Time to do some reading. Edit: OK. Some reading has been done. The Title Capitals thing does explain what is going on with the above examples. What I'm still surprised as is the classification of these descriptions as titles. Tedric.
It might drive you crazy, but I have always liked them... It just seems to look better for important things... |
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