Looks very nice, I guess I'll give the test server a go a bit later

PANELS!

Looks really great!

With the waypoints in the stars... does this mean I can MWD to the system now?

And we can assume by default that all panels can be right-clicked and actions performed on the item "selected"?

/c

This is cool.

I'd like to be able to reorganise waypoints by dragging them around the route info panel. So if I have a bunch of waypoints, say, Jita > Rens > Dodixie, I can click on Jita and drag it to after dodixie. I understand we can "optimize" waypoints, but sometimes I don't want to go the optimal route. Right now (as far as I'm aware) I would need to remove the Jita WP and re-add it after Dodixie. Much easier if we can just drag and drop it :)

Also, clicking on a the next system (or station) in a route opens the show info panel for that system. It'd be nice if we could use a shortcut key to perform an action such as align, approach, warp, jump on the next system in the route. Traditionally I would use the OV for travelling. But recently I've been using the route info panel leaving me to use the OV for understanding what ships are around me. It just lacks some tiny improvements to make it PERFECT. Allowing a user to perform navigation actions on the next item in the route would be super mega ultra awesome.

Good work folks!

Edit: spelling.

This is cool.

I'd like to be able to reorganise waypoints by dragging them around the route info panel. So if I have a bunch of waypoints, say, Jita > Rens > Dodixie, I can click on Jita and drag it to after dodixie. I understand we can "optimize" waypoints, but sometimes I don't want to go the optimal route. Right now (as far as I'm aware) I would need to remove the Jita WP and re-add it after Dodixie. Much easier if we can just drag and drop it :)

Also, clicking on a the next system (or station) in a route opens the show info panel for that system. It'd be nice if we could use a shortcut key to perform an action such as align, approach, warp, jump on the next system in the route. Traditionally I would use the OV for travelling. But recently I've been using the route info panel leaving me to use the OV for understanding what ships are around me. It just lacks some tiny improvements to make it PERFECT. Allowing a user to perform navigation actions on the next item in the route would be super mega ultra awesome.

Good work folks!

Edit: spelling.

afaik you can move around systems today (or well not drag-drop tho but move up/down the list).

Shortcuts for align, warp, jump etc are also in already so need to click on OV icons (or did I miss what you wished for?)

Good afternoon pilots!

I have good news for you! CCP Optimal is here to tell you about some new UI features that many of you who visit Singularity will have seen in testing.

Team Game of Drones have been working hard to bring you a new UI that is more accessible and easy to use. You can find out more about them in CCP Optimal's latest devblog.

Yeah, you can do that in the OV. But it'd be nice to separate travel from the OV completely - using the route info panel instead. Basically the same functionality as the OV, but in the route info panel.

Also checked the waypoints windows in F10 map - you can indeed drag the WPs. Would be nice to do that in the the route panel too though. Even if it's a ctrl+click, since normal drag-drop creates the system link in chat etc.

Edit: spelling AGAIN.

the solar system panel with planets, belts and stuff:
the sun, bookmarks, 100% signatures and moons should be in that list

Hehe
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Additionally, I really hope that the autopilot can be still managed in the MAP window.
Looking statistical information about destroyed ships helps to manage routes. I don't want to loose this information when planing a route.

Yes! Since the design plan is to allow players to choose what they want to see displayed, it makes sense to have everything you can warp to available. It could eliminate the need for using Right-click to warp to stuff, and you wouldn't need a specific navigation tab in the overview anymore.

Please provide an option to disable all, if not, most of it.

It takes up space needed for more useful UI elements like watch list, fleet window, cargo, local etc. This can be very frustrating in PvP. Especially for players who don't have large monitors.

Though it isn't an info panel, it is about fighting for space.

Please make the industry window's smallest size smaller than it is now. I only use it for PI and the window is way too large then. There's no good place to put it when it's this big and still be able to see enough of PI UI elements.

Great stuff, I was just irritated the other day that I couldn't see my buddies online at any given time, I have to round them all up in the same channel (and some of them don't like each other so it's tough!)

Having seen them on the test server, I do like them but right now they're a little too easy to accidentally close.

Current Location: Hek 0.3

Am I reading that correctly from the screen shot?

Current Location: Hek 0.3

Am I reading that correctly from the screen shot?

Let's hope Amamake will become highsec in turn, and Rancer a system with only 1 stargate.

Ok, I will re-post one possible solution here, I hope that there is a team following up things here. (Also I hope that they already got to this conclusion)

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Eve have many problems now.. one of them is POS and the Item management in there. This is also attached to the corporation management issues. As you guys noticed when fixed the orca and the carriers Cargohold division, It is impossible to fix the current System so the solution lays on taking the feature out of the corporation management and then fix them out of it, creating a solid and simpler system.

For the rest of the corporation Inventory (Including the POS inventory) you have to do the same thing, Take the access management and remove it from the corp management( Soon it will make sense), HOW:

First: Remove the corporation tab divisions making it a single inventory that have access from everyone.(changing 1 problem to other)

Second: You have to create a new Item, "Secure Hangar", It should be like a container, that once unpacked will work like a Tab, having the same volume as the content. (At this point if you want split things, put a password to open it.)

Third: Create a new UI to manage the access of containers, in this UI should have options like "allow corp", "Allow corp - Director", "Allow corp - miner", and other options like adding a player name, corp name or alliance name. Also, It would be interesting if was possible to change ownership of the container.

Fourth: this same UI solution may be applied to the pos management. Setting to it a Owner, (the ceo orr other player) that can allow individual "tab acces" like the hangar access. solving also one of the biggest player nightmare.

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This is the most simplistic way to escape from the old game code. I hope it helps, and if this don't help, please tell me why, i'm curious.

Is there a list which Solar Systems will be moved to where and how the security changes?

Also seems Hek moved from Metropolis region into Heimatar.

Perhaps they plan to relocate entire jumpgate networks and rework the regions :p

Cynthia what would you do tho without Hek 8-12 to sit outside camping all day long ;)

writing direction from right to left is used

Sure thing, boss. While we were mainly focused on getting the old content into a shiny new system, we did manage to drag in some cool new stuff, the most significant thing arguably being the migration of the autopilot settings from a place that makes practically no sense at all (the map panel) over to a place that actually does (the new Autopilot Route Info panel). As a result, the old routine of multiple clicks, confusion and moderate swearing has been replaced with a single click. We must admit that we were very tempted to do a more extensive cleanup of how you manage the autopilot route (see mockup below) but that will have to wait its turn.

Awesome.

We hope you like the Info Panels! We would very much like to develop the 'Work in progress' stuff in the blog so please give us your thoughts on those too.

First, I'm agree with the voiced opinions that those panels would be better implemented as movable windows and/or accessed via neocom instead of icons which permanently stuck on the screen. Now few little suggestions for autopilot:

Autopilot panel has been around for a couple of years but I (don't know how widespread this is) still can't get used to one aspect of those colored boxes: where is start of the route and where is the end? It's supposed to be obvious that writing direction from right to left is used but for some reason it's always confusing at the first glance. So what about adding eighter "Next" and "Dest" labels to make it easier to get direction (Fig. A.1) or an icon of spaceship at the beginning of the route to denote current position (Fig. A.2)? Or replacing boxes with the arrows (Fig. A.3)?

Another feature that will help traders remotely manage their orders and query regional prices would be a way to see region boundaries on the route like it is shown on the Fig. B.1 (looks better imho) or Fig. B.2 (probably would be easier to implement).

Picture: http://img6.imageshack.us/img6/2953/44100813.png

Also, looking at the mockups of future panels it looks like you are aiming for quite high degree of customizability so it may be worth asking for an option to hide constellation information from autopilot route and current location panels (show "SYSTEM SS < REGION" instead of current "SYSTEM SS < CONSTELLATION < REGION")? I play EVE for 9 years and can't imagine why one would be interested in constellation info (maybe for incursions only?) while hiding it will improve interface clarity.

If that's what you want, just collapse everything, leaving just the icon strip at the top.

Are the "Show info" windows included in the "Info panels"?

Because if it's so, please let them be shift clicked like in the past to open a new instance, industrialists need to see multiple BPOs / BPCs open to read the sub-components and compare the stats.

We hope you like the Info Panels! We would very much like to develop the 'Work in progress' stuff in the blog so please give us your thoughts on those too.

Avoid Systems on Your Avoidance List
Avoid systems on your avoidance list

Disable Autopilot at Each Waypoint
Disable autopilot at each waypoint

Clear All Waypoints
Clear all waypoints

Prefer Shorter - Ignore Security Status
Prefer shorter - ignore security status

First, I'm agree with the voiced opinions that those panels would be better implemented as movable windows and/or accessed via neocom instead of icons which permanently stuck on the screen. Now few little suggestions for autopilot:

Autopilot panel has been around for a couple of years but I (don't know how widespread this is) still can't get used to one aspect of those colored boxes: where is start of the route and where is the end? It's supposed to be obvious that writing direction from right to left is used but for some reason it's always confusing at the first glance. So what about adding eighter "Next" and "Dest" labels to make it easier to get direction (Fig. A.1) or an icon of spaceship at the beginning of the route to denote current position (Fig. A.2)? Or replacing boxes with the arrows (Fig. A.3)?

Another feature that will help traders remotely manage their orders and query regional prices would be a way to see region boundaries on the route like it is shown on the Fig. B.1 (looks better imho) or Fig. B.2 (probably would be easier to implement).

Picture: http://img6.imageshack.us/img6/2953/44100813.png

Also, looking at the mockups of future panels it looks like you are aiming for quite high degree of customizability so it may be worth asking for an option to hide constellation information from autopilot route and current location panels (show "SYSTEM SS < REGION" instead of current "SYSTEM SS < CONSTELLATION < REGION")? I play EVE for 9 years and can't imagine why one would be interested in constellation info (maybe for incursions only?) while hiding it will improve interface clarity.

So you've never heard of title caps? They're doing it right.

Another neat new feature, which is toggled through the new autopilot settings menu by selecting GÇ£Show route path in spaceGÇ¥, will reveal one of our best kept secrets; the stars in the space scene nebula actually represent the solar systems of New Eden.

Nope. Time to do some reading.

Edit: OK. Some reading has been done. The Title Capitals thing does explain what is going on with the above examples. What I'm still surprised as is the classification of these descriptions as titles.

Tedric.

Very nice! Few suggestions:

The compact mode of the AP is missing the "Jumps to go", which is by far the most important info if you're moving in a fleet! Also, it makes a lot more sence to me to display the destination instead of the next system on the route. You can see the next system in space anyway if you're looking at the overview - yellow stargate! Another option would be to hide const & region in compact mode and simply display next system, destination, jumps to go in one line.

Regarding that awesome wip: http://content.eveonline.com/www/newssystem/media/64141/1/GOD2.png
Will it be possible to rightclick the celestials in the list and have all the options available which you also have at the space context menu, but w/o going thru all the sub menus to moon x on planet y at z distance?

'Show route path in space' shows the way to the future!

Ummer or how it could look, as a couple of people have also indicated the fact that the stars in the background are 'real' should be made more use of in the future.

Currently the star map, solar system map are very awkward to use and map browser is almost useless. Imagine if on the hud to the left next to the tactical overlay button there was enable map features... Then when enabled all the 'World Map Control Panel' features could be overlaid in space. While in this mode it would be great to be able to zoom out and highlight the solar system view, constellation, region and universe view then back again. Darn even if things like scanner probes could be moved around then it would actually feel like scanning in space or if we could see the directional scanner sweeping through space in the direction we are scanning.

This would actually make using the map a pleasurable experience as well as contributing to the emersion of being in space.

Looking forward to more :)

Regarding that awesome wip: http://content.eveonline.com/www/newssystem/media/64141/1/GOD2.png
Will it be possible to rightclick the celestials in the list and have all the options available which you also have at the space context menu, but w/o going thru all the sub menus to moon x on planet y at z distance?

Yes, the idea is that once all warpable celestialsand other elements in your solar system are available there you won't need to use the Right-Click to select them and then their options in a sub-level or have them visible in the Overview anymore (you still can, but this method should be better). You will have the ability to use the Right-click option directly on the celestials to perform an action, or use shortcut keys to do the action directly without going into the Right-click at all.

This is the basic idea and the goal would be to make this the most effective and efficient way to navigate to elements in your solar system and allow you to fully customize the view of these elements in the System Info Panel.

As long as you don't go ahead and just remove the right click option that we have atm :), you can do that later if it turns out no one uses the right click in space afterwards for a while

Now if only there would be a check for useable jumpbridges and calculate them into the autopilot if desired.

Would that dumb down Eve too much?

Not yet tested but looks nice. I know people are crying out for new features and overhauls of existing ones. but little things like this (although the behind the scenes work might not have been little) are definatly the things i like!

*snip*

No plans to remove anything, just add a new and better way to do it, those that want to keep using Right-click for the same task will be able to do it exactly the same way as before.

That is appreciated, because you guys have already removed enough contextual r-click functionality (replaced with buttons in windows, etc.) to make doing stuff damn annoying / frustrating.

Right-click, considered a bastion of the power user isn't the best way necessarily to do things. It adds context, but context menus can get quickly overloaded.

Right-click, considered a bastion of the power user isn't the best way necessarily to do things. It adds context, but context menus can get quickly overloaded.

Understood. And there are examples in-game where r-click menus have gotten bloated. My thoughts with that quote were targeted at existing r-click menu items that were removed and replaced with obscure buttons, making a given task more burdensome and time consuming to accomplish.

I suggest that the r-click menus be retained when adding new means (buttons, etc) to accomplishing a task. QA testing for both actuators can be accomplished via regression script(s) to ensure both UI elements work, moving forward.

Also, w/in the EVE world, the most basic UI help theme stressed over the years was "when in doubt, right click." This goes well beyond power users and covers most of EVE's subscribers.

If CCP is developing a new UI paradigm, then hopefully it is consistent and more robust than "go find the button / icon" that either does something or invokes a menu where you can do something [the current situation].

We're open to suggestions that might make this easier!

So far I like what I see, and I'm going to hop onto the test server to have a closer look.

As I was reading the paragraphs on configuration I got to thinking. One of the aspects of the overview that I've come to appreciate over the years is the ability to edit the XML version of an overview setup to make it do more then it can be edited to do in the game.

Is there any way these info panels could have a similar XML structure that could then be further modified to behave exactly the way we would like?

Idea from Kyra Quinn posted in F&I

When I asked about this in the Rookie channel I was told to bring it up here.

If you have a mission active you can see the selected info on it top left with the name of the mission and when you click on it it you get the destination and all that. But if I want to check if the mission completed (different missions have different requirements) I have to go through the pulldown menu, open the mission info and look for the big green text stating "completed". From what I understood the journal will also flash but there's tons of icons flashing all the time and it's not always clear what that means.

To me that seems a bit silly and not very user friendly. Why not have the mission name change colour if it's completed (green for instance, like the green "completed" text in the mission info window). That way you can do a mission, instantly see it's completed because its name changed colour and warp off. To me that would be so much easier to use and makes more sense than the current system.

Any thoughts?

Surely this could be tied into the new info panels you have (unless it is already part of it) Especially good feature given that is come from a new player as well!