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Shayla Sh'inlux	Posted - 2005.11.15 23:13:00 - [1231] So if I take 30 guys with me and base out of HLW I contest curse?
Crusari	Posted - 2005.11.16 00:07:00 - [1232] Originally by: FinalHellSpawn Edited by: FinalHellSpawn on 15/11/2005 18:26:23 BoB Doesn't OWN Fountain.....They have ONE small POS in 7bx and that's it. We run and own this turff and I don't see why you show them so much love. FIX IT! Final I have to disagree with him aswell, but I'm no official VC spokesperson. First of all I havent seen him around in core so I dunno where he gets his info from. Just put a warzone in Fountain from VC.
Dianabolic	Posted - 2005.11.16 00:20:00 - [1233] Originally by: Crusari Just put a warzone in Fountain from VC. Agreed. Originally by: Thomas Jefferson A society that will trade a little liberty for a little security will lose both and deserve neither.
Kunming	Posted - 2005.11.16 01:06:00 - [1234] Originally by: Dianabolic Originally by: Crusari Just put a warzone in Fountain from VC. Agreed. Even though I dont like BoB, that gains respect ..of which we have so less around these days Website Killboard
Drilla	Posted - 2005.11.16 02:16:00 - [1235] Originally by: Shayla Sh'inlux So if I take 30 guys with me and base out of HLW I contest curse? If you move the major part of your pvp force (50? lol) to hlw and base out of there (live there, logistics in plce etc. the you contest it Seek not to bar my way, for I shall win through - no matter the cost!
DB Preacher	Posted - 2005.11.16 08:03:00 - [1236] Originally by: Dianabolic Originally by: Crusari Just put a warzone in Fountain from VC. Agreed. Already a warzone on Fountain, has been for a long time. dbp Current RKK Ranking: (CAL5) Kenin Drop by and say hi in Reikoku Forums.
Beringe	Posted - 2005.11.16 08:44:00 - [1237] Originally by: Trooper B99 I think the main question the leadership of [5] have to answer is, are they contesting with a view to settling down or is it still a "no-home" roadtrip kinda thing. I agree. If you don't claim space, I don't see how you can contest ownership. Warzone sounds about right, unless [5] are there to stay. Same thing with .G. in Stain. They've already said they are not there to claim it, although it might be a different situation since they were setting up POSes and such. ------------------------------------------- Sometimes, I wake up but keep on dreaming.
Shayla Sh'inlux	Posted - 2005.11.16 08:53:00 - [1238] Originally by: Drilla Originally by: Shayla Sh'inlux So if I take 30 guys with me and base out of HLW I contest curse? If you move the major part of your pvp force (50? lol) to hlw and base out of there (live there, logistics in plce etc. the you contest it Then, by your own definition, you don't contest Venal. Good job.
thoth foc	Posted - 2005.11.16 10:03:00 - [1239] Edited by: thoth foc on 16/11/2005 10:04:18 Originally by: Shayla Sh'inlux So if I take 30 guys with me and base out of HLW I contest curse? we are more active in the area than the previous "owners", we have been for quite a number of weeks.. i'm more interested in how your claiming PA are contesting the area with us.. it is us that has to look for them to engage.. they came looking for us only once in a number of weeks, and only with F-E and NBSI to hold their hands.. they stay docked mostly.. --thoth [5], ex-Curse Alliance ex-DSMA
DB Preacher	Posted - 2005.11.16 11:11:00 - [1240] Edited by: DB Preacher on 16/11/2005 11:11:33 Thoth, I think what peeps are getting at is that if you want to contest Venal then you need to get one of the high ranking [5] members to make a simple post in this thread stating something like: "Hi, we are [5] and we are here to stay in Venal." Keeps it nice and easy mate ;) dbp Current RKK Ranking: (CAL5) Kenin Drop by and say hi in Reikoku Forums.
thoth foc	Posted - 2005.11.16 11:49:00 - [1241] Originally by: DB Preacher Edited by: DB Preacher on 16/11/2005 11:11:33 Thoth, I think what peeps are getting at is that if you want to contest Venal then you need to get one of the high ranking [5] members to make a simple post in this thread stating something like: "Hi, we are [5] and we are here to stay in Venal." Keeps it nice and easy mate ;) dbp maybe.. i assumed drilla's post covered that.. (/me is just peon, polictics is for others..) it just seems strange F-E are more active defending PA controlled space than PA.. it's more like a F-E Protectorate than a PA held area.. F-E jumping up and down saying "really PA owns it" --thoth [5], ex-Curse Alliance ex-DSMA
DB Preacher	Posted - 2005.11.16 11:56:00 - [1242] Haha, Reading > * Sorry, I missed Drilla's message :p Thread could do with being tidied up tbh and peeps prolly should have a read of the rules at the top of the thread. Me included :x dbp Current RKK Ranking: (CAL5) Kenin Drop by and say hi in Reikoku Forums.
Drilla	Posted - 2005.11.16 13:09:00 - [1243] Originally by: DB Preacher Haha, Reading > * Sorry, I missed Drilla's message :p You hurt my feelings Seek not to bar my way, for I shall win through - no matter the cost!
Drilla	Posted - 2005.11.16 13:12:00 - [1244] Originally by: Shayla Sh'inlux Originally by: Drilla Originally by: Shayla Sh'inlux So if I take 30 guys with me and base out of HLW I contest curse? If you move the major part of your pvp force (50? lol) to hlw and base out of there (live there, logistics in plce etc. the you contest it Then, by your own definition, you don't contest Venal. Good job. Well we've moved more PVP'ers to H-PA than you entire alliance can field, so your point is? Stop trying to make it sound like we just have a coupple of guys in H-PA, you know damn well that the only time you came to H-PA to fight was when you came with 220 from several alliances. Funny we had 90 people logged on at that time there when you say we've only moved 50 people there (all timezones included). Venal is contested by [5] if you disagree, kick us out of Venal - simple as that. Seek not to bar my way, for I shall win through - no matter the cost!
Shayla Sh'inlux	Posted - 2005.11.16 13:19:00 - [1245] To reiterate, I want to know the motivation behind making Venal a contested area. I couldn't care less whether or not the map is marked as contested or warzone, since what's on the map doesn't change what's in space. Neither does it change who and how many shoot at me. What I find annoying is the double standard being used here. Josh specifically states you need to do more than just have some presence for a few weeks in an NPC-station area to contest it. Ie, look at Curse, where RA surely have presence, but don't get to contest it mapwise because they 'have to do better than that'. Then Five parks a bunch of their PvP'ers in Venal, claims they have chased PA out, who in reality were defending Branch from RISK and after a week and a half Josh puts the contestment lines on Venal. On a sidenote, if you have a 'major part of your PvPers' parked in H-PA to contest Venal, then what's left in Curse that makes The Five claim it uncontested?
Rod Blaine	Posted - 2005.11.16 13:47:00 - [1246] Quote: Ie, look at Curse, where RA surely have presence, but don't get to contest it mapwise because they 'have to do better than that'. Look, i couldnt care either way about venal, but as far as i can see the latest Map shows Curse as contested between [5] and Red. And as to 50-90 [5] being in venal meaning there's none in curse goes. If I'm shooting someone in outer ring the one minute, I can be shooting another guy in Delve the other, that's what multiple chars are good for. _______________________________________________ Power to the players !
Joshua Foiritain	Posted - 2005.11.16 14:17:00 - [1247] Originally by: Shayla Sh'inlux To reiterate, I want to know the motivation behind making Venal a contested area. I couldn't care less whether or not the map is marked as contested or warzone, since what's on the map doesn't change what's in space. Neither does it change who and how many shoot at me. What I find annoying is the double standard being used here. Josh specifically states you need to do more than just have some presence for a few weeks in an NPC-station area to contest it. Ie, look at Curse, where RA surely have presence, but don't get to contest it mapwise because they 'have to do better than that'. Then Five parks a bunch of their PvP'ers in Venal, claims they have chased PA out, who in reality were defending Branch from RISK and after a week and a half Josh puts the contestment lines on Venal. On a sidenote, if you have a 'major part of your PvPers' parked in H-PA to contest Venal, then what's left in Curse that makes The Five claim it uncontested? My latest version shows curse as quite contested. Why? Because XIII (Not in the RA alliance but fighting for them) squads can roam freely trough the region without anyone stopping them. ThereÆs only a minimal amount of 5 members left, making it contested. WhereÆd the rest of the five go? Venal apparently, they moved their entire fleet into the region and claim theyÆre not leaving anytime soon. Which makes it contested. ------------------ [Coreli Corporation Mainframe]
CivaluZ	Posted - 2005.11.16 14:19:00 - [1248] SE is not contesting stain.(only 2-3 corps left in it and species and xb left.)
LoxyRider	Posted - 2005.11.16 15:25:00 - [1249] The Loxy No Bull**** Statement on Curse . Curse = The home of the [5], or the spiritual home at least. Whatever the situation is Curse has been the home of most of the [5] corps for years now and it will always be considered home. Whatever the situation is if the [5] decide to go back home we will do so and there will be no question of who owns it in "map terms" when we are there. Currently however we are not there. Most of the [5] are stationed up north in venal and we do choose to contest its status (venal) at this time. Are we moving up here or will we be gone in a month? I dont know, frankly as a region its much better then curse but it isnt the same if you get me . So going back to the point, [5] consider Curse our home, we have a lot of corp assets still there, we have a lot of members there and when we decide to go back at any time we will do as we please in what we consider our region. In "Map terms" however i think its fair to say at this time we dont have a substancial force down there, and while im not there myself and so cant see the situation the contested marker does not bother me. As you've said Shayla, the map doesnt matter, what happens in game does .
Darkrydar	Posted - 2005.11.16 17:53:00 - [1250] Originally by: Shayla Sh'inlux Edited by: Shayla Sh''inlux on 16/11/2005 13:23:24 To reiterate, I want to know the motivation behind making Venal a contested area. I couldn't care less whether or not the map is marked as contested or warzone, since what's on the map doesn't change what's in space. Neither does it change who and how many shoot at me. What I find annoying is the double standard being used here. Josh specifically states you need to do more than just have some presence for a few weeks in an NPC-station area to contest it. Ie, look at Curse, where RA surely have presence, but don't get to contest it mapwise because they 'have to do better than that'. Then Five parks a bunch of their PvP'ers in Venal, claims they have chased PA out, who in reality were defending Branch from RISK and after a week and a half Josh puts the contestment lines on Venal. On a sidenote, if you have a 'major part of your PvPers' parked in H-PA to contest Venal, then what's left in Curse that makes The Five claim it uncontested? (btw Drilla the 50 PvP'ers was your own number - I kinda assumed it was flamebait referring to F-E's total PvP capacity which is kinda funny since you also refer to our 'lame' 200-men blobs...) SO much rubbish in one post. Loxy's statement about coverts the truth. Oh btw, that 200 pilots was maybe 1/3 (tops) F-E. Fuzzy math 4tl dude.
Shayla Sh'inlux	Posted - 2005.11.16 20:30:00 - [1251] Thanks for your clarification on Curse, Loxyrider. Good to see some actual content in a .5. post instead of the usual garbage. And to the guy above me: Ooh more flaming \o/. If you've got nothing to add about the map, go to one of the other 15 threads where the less-respectful 80% of your alliance is posting away. You'd fit just fine. Loxy has enough credibility without you backing him up ok? Probably more, even. Btw, there was 120 F-E in that blob, but whatever floats your boat. Now can a mod clean this thread up a bit?
ParMizaN	Posted - 2005.11.16 20:45:00 - [1252] sigh remember this thread is not for flaming and discusson. as an outside, the way i see it is that both curse and venal are contested. Phenomena of ironies, cast the litany aside How intelligible, blessed be the forgetful
Awalance	Posted - 2005.11.16 22:38:00 - [1253] Originally by: Joshua Foiritain Originally by: Shayla Sh'inlux To reiterate, I want to know the motivation behind making Venal a contested area. I couldn't care less whether or not the map is marked as contested or warzone, since what's on the map doesn't change what's in space. Neither does it change who and how many shoot at me. What I find annoying is the double standard being used here. Josh specifically states you need to do more than just have some presence for a few weeks in an NPC-station area to contest it. Ie, look at Curse, where RA surely have presence, but don't get to contest it mapwise because they 'have to do better than that'. Then Five parks a bunch of their PvP'ers in Venal, claims they have chased PA out, who in reality were defending Branch from RISK and after a week and a half Josh puts the contestment lines on Venal. On a sidenote, if you have a 'major part of your PvPers' parked in H-PA to contest Venal, then what's left in Curse that makes The Five claim it uncontested? My latest version shows curse as quite contested. Why? Because XIII (Not in the RA alliance but fighting for them) squads can roam freely trough the region without anyone stopping them. ThereÆs only a minimal amount of 5 members left, making it contested. WhereÆd the rest of the five go? Venal apparently, they moved their entire fleet into the region and claim theyÆre not leaving anytime soon. Which makes it contested. Section XIII are doing only ganks in curse ...RA are not araund same [5] few other corps who are there when we try to get a fight section xiii loged or running in there corner .Hardly to beleve some one can own curse . ------------------------ after you die ,and all peoples who knows you die also ..its like you never exist
Shifu	Posted - 2005.11.16 22:56:00 - [1254] Originally by: CivaluZ SE is not contesting stain.(only 2-3 corps left in it and species and xb left.) current target
pardux	Posted - 2005.11.16 23:55:00 - [1255] Originally by: Shifu Originally by: CivaluZ SE is not contesting stain.(only 2-3 corps left in it and species and xb left.) :o rejoined
Joycalyn	Posted - 2005.11.17 00:07:00 - [1256] Last I checked the only group claiming curse was the Angel Cartel..best marked as an alliance warzone-similar to syndicate. The only forces fighting there are RA, locals, CHIMP, and -V-. None of which claim it, just there for fights really.
Robapin	Posted - 2005.11.17 05:47:00 - [1257] lol awalance , you can just now write on forum , or maybe take your Tempest and come at 300km of gate Robapin
Shin Ra	Posted - 2005.11.17 11:51:00 - [1258] Originally by: Shayla Sh'inlux So if I take 30 guys with me and base out of HLW I contest curse? If they are forum *****s then yes. If not, then you don't exist on the map.
Seleene	Posted - 2005.11.17 12:08:00 - [1259] Originally by: Shin Ra Originally by: Shayla Sh'inlux So if I take 30 guys with me and base out of HLW I contest curse? If they are forum *****s then yes. If not, then you don't exist on the map. There's a scary amount of truth in that statement... - The REAL Eve Political Map!
Hast	Posted - 2005.11.17 12:17:00 - [1260] Originally by: Seleene Originally by: Shin Ra Originally by: Shayla Sh'inlux So if I take 30 guys with me and base out of HLW I contest curse? If they are forum *****s then yes. If not, then you don't exist on the map. There's a scary amount of truth in that statement...

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