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babycow
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Posted - 2005.07.24 09:28:00 -
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HELLO BOYS AND GIRLS OK NOW I WILL TELL U WHAT IS THE IDEA:)
IN LOVE AND WAR EVERYTHING IS POSSIBLE,CORP THEFT IS BAD INDEED HOW LONG IS USED IN A NON WAR ACTION.
I WANT TO REMEMBER U BOB AND FA ARE IN WAR AND IN THIS MOMENT EVERYTHING IS POSSIBLE SO STOP BEING STUPID AND COME WITH SMACK ON THIS FORUMS.
FA U ARE BETTER THEN BOB OK PROVE IT (IF U CAN)
ABOUT THE PPL WHO SAID THIS TACTIC IS LAME , MY FRIENDS I WANT TO TELL U 1 SINGLE THING,U ARE JUST JELOUS BECAUSE U ARE NOT THE OWNER OF THIS TACTIC AND U CANT THINK SO MUCH TO SET UP A TACTIC LIKE THIS SO ...DONT COME TO BLAME WHAT U DONT KNOW
TNX FOR YOUR ATENTION AND I AM SORRY IF I UPSET SOME1
EBIL TWINS 4TW FEAR OR ......SEE U LATER
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Dell
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Posted - 2005.07.24 09:28:00 -
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cry!
RN Killboard
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kashkaisha
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Posted - 2005.07.24 09:35:00 -
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so at the final, what Bob did soundz good to you ?
So if i understand, if someone get stupid enough to trust you at a point he want to give you acces to pos and bpc, bpo...
You should just bakstab him cause most of your friend is in the other team ?
I dont say that cause im in FA...i just say that cause at one point, b4 you make a decision like that,b4 that second your about to make that kind of move, it come something call honor and respect! Am i stupid enough to make that kind of move...? If yes, Bob is still hiring...If not, i ave respect for you even if we are ennemy and even if you blow me 100 time.
Anyway...Respect to all who fight whit honor !
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babycow
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Posted - 2005.07.24 09:47:00 -
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so at the final, what Bob did soundz good to you ?
So if i understand, if someone get stupid enough to trust you at a point he want to give you acces to pos and bpc, bpo...
You should just bakstab him cause most of your friend is in the other team ?
I dont say that cause im in FA...i just say that cause at one point, b4 you make a decision like that,b4 that second your about to make that kind of move, it come something call honor and respect! Am i stupid enough to make that kind of move...? If yes, Bob is still hiring...If not, i ave respect for you even if we are ennemy and even if you blow me 100 time.
HOW U CAN FIGHT WITH HONOR WHEN THE ENEMY DONT COME TO GIVE U A HONORABLE FIGHT?
AND THE SECOND POINT IS : IF U DONT KNOW HOW TO PROTECT YOUR GOODS MEANS U ARE STUPID AND U NEED TO PAY FOR THAT
JUST 1 ADVICE FOR EVERY1 THINK 100 TIMES BEFORE U DO SOMETHING
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Dell
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Posted - 2005.07.24 09:49:00 -
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honor and respect!!!! FA dont have any! and never will
RN Killboard
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MadGaz
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Posted - 2005.07.24 10:03:00 -
[126]
 Originally by: Dell
honor and respect!!!! FA dont have any! and never will
Well I havent met much FA, but from the ones I've seen I agree.
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Dukath
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Posted - 2005.07.24 10:08:00 -
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If people want to compare this to corp theft... well its their right to do so. But then it has to be the slowest corp theft ever. All in all it took more than 6 hours to remove the POS. 6 hours in which FA had all the opportunity to stop us. 6 hours to get a fleet up and attack. 6 hours to send in 5 people with some fuel to quickly online it again.
What did fa do? nothing. They saw what was happening and they continued what they were doing (probably in empire using their alts).
Secondly sure you need to trust people, but giving access to someone you don't know in less than a couple of days? Come on, you don't even know if the person will fit in in the corp. This is not even about security, this is common sense.
A possible solution of course is removal of all alts. But i guess this would hurt fountain a lot more than BoB :)
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Dr Screamm
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Posted - 2005.07.24 10:10:00 -
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Soo much love in here, makes me all warm and fuzzy.
Btw, Sabotage is the word, NOT Corp Theft.
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LokeDemonG
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Posted - 2005.07.24 10:18:00 -
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Originally by: quellious
Hi,
Before, i had quite a sort of repect for nive PvP tactic, and ability to use ships correctly. Now i have no respect anymore for all BoB players. This include : Evol , Rkk,
If ever EvE community could blame such lame behavior ...
Ciao
Moved from EVE General Discussion -zhuge
Respect in EVE lol. EVE is runned by ****s, Thats includes CCP
EVOL runned by Swede, enough said. Right Shrike?
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SilverQ
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Posted - 2005.07.24 10:19:00 -
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Edited by: SilverQ on 24/07/2005 10:19:36
In the Bible did they not use spies and sabotage?
In WW1 did they not use spies and sabotage?
In WW2 did they not use spies and sabotage?
In Vietnam did they not use spies and sabotage?
Hell, in every war i can think of have spies and sabotage not been used?
So catch up with a 1000 years of history or face it being used against you.
"All's Fair In Love And War"
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Larno
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Posted - 2005.07.24 10:20:00 -
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Originally by: Darkrydar
Edited by: Darkrydar on 24/07/2005 06:14:53
Originally by: Larno
Originally by: Darkrydar
Originally by: Larno
Eve would be much more popular if CCP banned corp theft, scamming and the like. I can safely say the number of players who have quit because of scamming and corp theft is greater than the number that would not play the game if there was no scamming and corp theft.
Of course the thread starter was stupid to have given out POS access so freely. Was this tactic clever? Yes. Effective? Yes Dishonourable? Imo yes.
Lol, coming from Mr. Altcorp.
Lol you are a complete idiot. Check my employment history.
Oh sorry, I guess I'll have to be more specific. You're corp employees alt corps to war dec your superiors that you fear. Sorry that you're too dense to know that.
LMAO. WLD is a pure PvP corp. Why would we want to hire mercs? Even if we wanted to we couldn't afford it anyway.
Lol you are about the dumbest person I have ever seen on these forums, and that really is saying something! LOL! 
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Dianabolic
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Posted - 2005.07.24 10:37:00 -
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Originally by: LokeDemonG
Respect in EVE lol. EVE is runned by ****s, Thats includes CCP
EVOL runned by Swede, enough said. Right Shrike?
Nice personal, out of game, attack you've got going on there.
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Gerome Doutrande
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Posted - 2005.07.24 10:43:00 -
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Originally by: Dr Screamm
Btw, Sabotage is the word, NOT Corp Theft.
well, if you didn't take posession of sghq property but "only" destroyed it then i'd say it was sabotage, if you did take what you got there i'd say it was sabotage and corp theft.
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Dianabolic
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Posted - 2005.07.24 10:58:00 -
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Originally by: Gerome Doutrande
Originally by: Dr Screamm
Btw, Sabotage is the word, NOT Corp Theft.
well, if you didn't take posession of sghq property but "only" destroyed it then i'd say it was sabotage, if you did take what you got there i'd say it was sabotage and corp theft.
It's all semantics, Gerome, whatever people call it those who play this game like we do will respect it, those who do not will call it griefing, but what no one can deny is that it must be acknowledged as a VALID game tactic that MUST be defended against.
Yes, and I've said this long before now, CCP need to get roles implemented for POS security ASAP, the current system is appalling - it's either 100% trust or 0% trust. The people that have this kind of access in RKK have been with us for a very long goddamn time and it hurts us as much as it hurts anyone else not to be able to allow our newer players to, for example, refit at the pos.
Having said all that, I have immense pity on those who, with corporations such as GHSC around, will give access to a just_joined_3_days_ago character.
I do hope that Sturmgrenadier bounce back, I do hope they learn from this, a very, VERY harsh lesson, I do hope that they will, one day, make us pay for our operation yesterday. That IS what EVE is all about, I just hope it doesn't consume them so much it makes this game about hatred.
From what I've seen they've handled this very well, and for that they have my respect - not that they care, I'm sure, but then - neither do I.
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Rod Blaine
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Posted - 2005.07.24 11:01:00 -
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Who the hell cares anyway ?
I know I don't. I choose to measure my and my corps actions by my set of principles.
They allow it, end of dilemma.
Coming here to cry about this being dishonourable adn all that is fine, if it weren't that Like Dukath said your 2K player alliance had 6 hours to remove 20 people robbing a pos from the system in question. You could at the very least have sent some frigates to try and kill our haulers when they moved the ships and modules we looted right into our corp hangars in your own 'core' system...
What FA did, was post a thread crying about honour.
I think that concludes this nicely, don't you ?
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Talon SilverHawk
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Posted - 2005.07.24 11:07:00 -
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Truly ebil putting another pos in place was genius. Sorry to the corp that lost but you did sort of do it to yourselves...
Tal
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Sun Ra
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Posted - 2005.07.24 11:08:00 -
[137]
Originally by: Kalened
Edited by: Kalened on 24/07/2005 01:24:43
For those of you thinking this is brilliant i question your definition of brilliance. Last time i checked theres no difficulty factor in deceiving someone online. Every major alliance in this game has spies at the top level even BoB. I'll never understand how people take pride in espionage on this game. Since CCP allows for espionage they should put in some form of counter espionage. The only way you have to catch a spy today is if the spy is a moron.
The fact you can use espionage in this game so effectivly is the reason it ROCKS, i grew up watching 007 now i can be him if i choose too \o/
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Gerome Doutrande
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Posted - 2005.07.24 11:27:00 -
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Originally by: Dianabolic
It's all semantics, Gerome, whatever people call it those who play this game like we do will respect it, those who do not will call it griefing, but what no one can deny is that it must be acknowledged as a VALID game tactic that MUST be defended against.
that is of course correct, while i'd personally rather call it a matter of (personal) attitude than semantics. but what is "lame" or not is most certainly not something one can decide objectively (some people consider non consentual combat in eve as lame for example).
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Bizarre
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Posted - 2005.07.24 11:51:00 -
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Porro!
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Deathwing > U LIKE THOSE NUTS ON YA CHIN?
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Alter Mann
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Posted - 2005.07.24 12:06:00 -
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Originally by: LokeDemonG
EVOL runned by Swede, enough said. Right Shrike?
Molle is E.T.
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Romulus Maximus
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Posted - 2005.07.24 12:31:00 -
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U really cant be blaming anyone but urselves. U allowed a n00b member POS access. Thats just retarded.
No matter what u think of us, or our tactics. Its part of everyday life. And its part of EvE. Any alliance that doesnt use spies to gather intel etc isnt playing right.
Every war in the world has had spies, covert agents yada yada. Its not like we infiltraded ur corp and emptied ur corp hangers, we took down a POS and looted ur ships etc. Had we not been able to loot them, they would have died. So calling it theft makes no odds, makes no sense to NOT take them if we can.
FA are really in no postion to talk of honour. Ive lost count of the times arranged 1v1s etc have been broken up by other FA members warping in. Or having us try and warp to a POS, along with the old ' gang invite ' .
Ive seen it in writing, stating FA deliberatly dishonour 1v1s , and will continue to do so.
Add to this the lack of resistance in ur core systems. What a shining example of honour u guys are. But, i guess if u dont have the respect and honour to fight for ur alliance, why show it to others eh 
We will keep on using all valid ingame tactics to play our game. We play to win, not to be nice 
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Kryztal
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Posted - 2005.07.24 12:45:00 -
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You didnt care enough about the POS to come protect it or save it or hell give us a lil beating, you kept doing your thing which means you couldnt have cared that much.
All is fair in war and your just whining cos this happened to you. If it was reversed you would be cheering insted of this drama.
Come show us some of that honorable fighting plz or is operation "bore them into leaving" the best youve got?
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Grimster
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Posted - 2005.07.24 12:51:00 -
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Edited by: Grimster on 24/07/2005 12:52:08
Originally by: Larno
Lol you are a complete idiot. Check my employment history.
Personally wouldn't go as far as to call anyone an idiot here (there's not tangible backup and you really don't know anyone so can't come to that assumption), but I remember when Wildcats were on these forums crying that Mercenary Frigates were shooting them a while back.
Whine ftw 
Think maybe the point is you ain't involved man - shhhh
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CoolSprog
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Posted - 2005.07.24 13:00:00 -
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Lol i have got a great idea! Hows about....you STOP whining about the loss of your POS, about how lame we are for doing it etc etc, maybe if you defended your space we wouldent have even got there, maybe if your allience had one testicle beteen the lot of you, we would have been more busy fighting you off. Instead we had loads of spare bored ships+pilots, so why not take down your POS, your own faul tbph!
oh and Nyk0n, well done, your the biggest retard here, "Fight the POS instead of disable it!" SUREEEE M8, tell you what, you go in first, i'll be right behind you! No? didnt think so, so hush!
OH and this whole POS thing has made me uber horny 
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Sinjin Smythe
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Posted - 2005.07.24 14:38:00 -
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This is probably one of the most awesome things I have heard about in EVE yet. Cant believe how funny this is. Pure gold!
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Reiisha
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Posted - 2005.07.24 14:40:00 -
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FA are ******* hypocrits.
Lame tactics, using alts to take out our POS!!! What's all that talk about honrable fights? Fight us!
We would, if you were actualy there to fight.
Alts are lame!
Look who's talking. I don't know any other alliance who uses more alts to take care of their business. FA people are saying that they don't use alts, so this means 1 of 3 things:
1: They DO use alts and leave their mains logged off in Fountain. This means they DO use alts and so they make themselves look incredibly stupid with their claims of everyone being lame who uses alts.
2: They don't use alts and use their mains in Empire, which means they abandonded Fountain. Yet, they still claim to be defending their region and accuse us of not fighting. Who looks stupid now, i wonder?
3: They don't use alts and don't use mains. They simply ***** the forums to flame us whenever they can. Sporadically fa frig groups kill a bob frig and claim it as a major victory, all the while they can't mine and can't npc. They refuel their pos only when we shoot it and waste money on a station they can't use. So, this is all going good for FA then i guess?
I can name a few more things.
It's really hypocricy, an FA corp calling tactics they themselves employ lame. I just wonder why they can't see that for themselves. Are they simply stupid? :)
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Grimster
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Posted - 2005.07.24 15:14:00 -
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Originally by: Larno
I think maybe the point is, I will post in whatever threads I like.
Oh I've not got a problem with that at all, you pay the bill mate.
But, that said, I wouldn't think about commenting on a thread about Quantum Mechanics, something I know absolutely nothing about other than it's got something to do with Newtonian mechanics and Maxwellian electromagnetism, at the atomic and subatomic levels.
To spout off at people who deal with this stuff all the time would make me look silly.
Apply.
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Darkrydar
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Posted - 2005.07.24 15:15:00 -
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Originally by: Larno
Originally by: Grimster
Originally by: Larno
Lol you are a complete idiot. Check my employment history.
Personally wouldn't go as far as to call anyone an idiot here (there's not tangible backup and you really don't know anyone so can't come to that assumption), but I remember when Wildcats were on these forums crying that Mercenary Frigates were shooting them a while back.
Whine ftw
Think maybe the point is you ain't involved man - shhhh
As I told Mr. Darkrydar - check my employment history. I have not been in Wildcats for very long and I know nothing about 'Mercenary Frigates', whoever they are.
So anyone care to explain why I am 'Mr Alt Corp'?
I think maybe the point is, I will post in whatever threads I like.
Back when 5 was bring Xetic to its knees SNRA got a flurry of alt corps declaring wars on us. One was from Wildcat members. Alas, they are so irrivant I cant recall the name. Point is, before you spout off about BOB and whatnot being 'lame' you need to check what the corp you're in stands for.
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Valdi
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Posted - 2005.07.24 16:05:00 -
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omg omg omg pwned pwned heheheheh u know that work right ? hehehhehehehehehhehehehehhehehehehheheheheheh
Gold this goes down in histories
please tell me u got it frapsed
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K'isa
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Posted - 2005.07.24 17:28:00 -
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Edited by: K''isa on 24/07/2005 17:31:29
Originally by: Grimster
Edited by: Grimster on 24/07/2005 12:52:08
Originally by: Larno
Lol you are a complete idiot. Check my employment history.
Personally wouldn't go as far as to call anyone an idiot here (there's not tangible backup and you really don't know anyone so can't come to that assumption), but I remember when Wildcats were on these forums crying that Mercenary Frigates were shooting them a while back.
Whine ftw
Think maybe the point is you ain't involved man - shhhh
hehe. I remember as we had mostly 2-3 week old m00bs in corp and than came MF and have declared war on such easy target. and one of this m00bs was so disrupting by this war that he have spammed forums with "why a hell ... ?". and even than he have fought.
anyway even than we have not run away and except with exception of just one battle I cann not remember any action where Cats have lost vs. this "strong mercenary corp" MF. pffft...
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about lame and not lame. most of flaming here are so-called PvP'ers.
when have You read last time SUN TZU (The Art of War) ? this book is old like a world and nevertheless still be actual. war is not a competition and fairness have there no place.
but also Larno is right by speaking about those who leave EVE because of scummers. it is really frustrating to see how many people have low morale and no respect for other people's feelings when they have not to fear about being punished by RL-laws
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