The packaged M3 for Carriers and Dread's are not really a valued number in the game. No ship can carry them when they are packaged and they will never be undocked in that state. They come in at 1,000,000 M3 packaged. If that number were pushed up to 2 mill or even 5 it wouldn't matter one way or the other in terms of how they are handled in the game. It is the only reason freighters do not have rig slots or a single low slot.

If the numbers on packaged capitals were jacked up CCP could add a single low slot and or Rig slots to the freighters as well as the Jump Freighters. If someone wants to crank up their hold, let them. For those with more brains than a big dog, they could multiply the EHP of the ship and improve Inertia. Goonswarm or more specific, Bat Co seem to think EVE players is too dumb ta do it right anyway, they will still gett heir stupid kills and people like me would no longer feel any pity for them because they made a decision. Right now, it's nothing but a cow in space, in a game everyone seems to agree is full of wolves.

So first my quote answers your post. Im not against ganking. You are being overly hostile in your reaction to a cause of debate.

I would also like your explanation for the 'proven way to avoid gank'. This technique should invole no more than one pilot please.

It has one of the biggest buffers in high sec and on average the number of ganked freighters a week is around the same as the number that pass though the perimiter gate in 2 minutes.

You are trying to fix a problem that does not exist.

I can get Battleships to higher EHP than the freighters have. Because the freighters EHP is all in the hull you can't logi a freighter. I know, I've tried. In a game where blap should be in the logo, freighter EHP and distribution is a serious problem.

There would be something very wrong if a battleship could not have a bigger buffer than a freighter.

Freighters are perfectly fine EHP wise, its the pilots that are causing the issues and CCP cannot patch stupid.

And yet here you are, like you are in every thread about buffing EHP on a freighter, saying there is no need. If it's all about stupid, why so serious?

A freighter is a capital ship. Not a combat ship? You can shoot at it, that makes it a combat ship. A capital ship should not have less EHP than a sub capital with no option to fit and fortify it in a game that grants the right to shoot you while in one. It's a big fat cow.

it should also require the Capital Ship skill book to even fly but that's another issue.

Hey guys, the Marco Polo and Pierre Guillaumat are bigger than any battleship or aircraft carrier. They should be great for a war!


Thats litereally what you just said...

If you want to drag real world examples in to this, lets look at the real world implications of blowing up the Marco Polo and then just rolling in to a port to wait out your 15 minute rage moment.

Back in EVE though, my advice to people is that if you are High Sec doing High Sec business, get an Orca and get rid of your freighter. You don't need it and you will see it once you are in the Orca that will run you 33% of the cost the freighter is running you. Freighters for expediting from Null to HS and according to all the seers, when they buff Null Industrial that won't be needed any more. Things should correct itself in the end.

EVE is more like the age of spanish gold ships.



As a freighter pilot I will point out that a full load of trit or transporting 10 talos cannot be done in an orca in one trip, a single freighter trip is much more efficient use of time.

Pirates didn't roll in to Madrid like they were just your average tug boat captain either, not even in the height of piracy.

I agree on the Trit and Talos factor but High Sec people don't need ten Talos or 80 million trit

No they rolled into London and had lunch with the Queen.

No they rolled into London and had lunch with the Queen.



And here you show an utter lack of knolage of high sec. Yesterday well over 30 billion units of trit were sold in jita alone.

And you still missed the point. That trit was not aimed at HS or their ships.

Just about all production takes place in high sec. Also how do you think that trit got into that station in the heart of high sec in a system with no belts?

Hisec, creating tears, problems and hatred since inception.

I think it's time accept the fact that nothing good will ever come out of it and simply reduce it into handful of systems to protect the new players, and let players take care of the rest.