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Tanaka Aiko
ICE is Coming to EVE Goonswarm Federation
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Posted - 2013.02.18 17:26:00 -
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Quote:Logs in the Notifications and Log window are not cleared anymore on session change, so you can try to figure out what the hell happened when you got podded without having to find the log file for the fight Thank you guys, that will make these way more useful than before :) |
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CCP Guard
C C P C C P Alliance
3317
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Posted - 2013.02.18 17:28:00 -
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Note that tonight is the last night you'll get the chance to use that five-deep drop-down menu so fleet up and make the most of it! CCP Guard | EVE Community Developer |-á@ccp_guard |
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BeanBagKing
The Scope Gallente Federation
229
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Posted - 2013.02.18 17:29:00 -
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CCP - While your working on the fleet menus can you Please Please Please take a look at this suggestion. I appologize for not reposting the text itself, but Im on my cell and for some reason it only wants to highlight the forums background image. Feel free to edit my post with the text to make it easier for all to you read if you want.
https://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=posts&t=101913 <-- Original Post |
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CCP karkur
C C P C C P Alliance
1971
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Posted - 2013.02.18 17:31:00 -
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CCP Guard wrote:Note that tonight is the last night you'll get the chance to use that five deep drop down menu so fleet up and make the most of it! Lies... I didn't remove it CCP karkur | User Interface Programmer | Team Pony Express | @CCP karkur |
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CCP Guard
C C P C C P Alliance
3317
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Posted - 2013.02.18 17:33:00 -
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CCP karkur wrote:CCP Guard wrote:Note that tonight is the last night you'll get the chance to use that five deep drop down menu so fleet up and make the most of it! Lies... I didn't remove it
PHEW!
Panic averted. CCP Guard | EVE Community Developer |-á@ccp_guard |
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CCP Explorer
C C P C C P Alliance
1409
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Posted - 2013.02.18 17:39:00 -
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Hashi Lebwohl wrote:Similar to the green highlight for youself in fleet could you help Wing and fleet commanders identify those individuals in the wing/fleet that have leadership 5 - say highlight them in blue. This would really help in full fleets where a squad has 10 members but nobody has taken the squad commander position. You could then put someone into command immediately rather than search through the fleet composition for the squad member with the right skill. You are not supposed to know other characters' skills; unless you get their explicit approval, such as by them giving you an EVE API key. Erlendur S. Thorsteinsson | Software Director | EVE Online, CCP Games | Follow on: Twitter / Google+ |
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MisterNick
The Sagan Clan Pax Romana Alliance
214
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Posted - 2013.02.18 17:41:00 -
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Love it, love everything about it.
All improvements to the horrible fleet window are to be met with hugs and beers "Human beings make life so interesting. Do you know that in a universe so full of wonders, they have managed to invent boredom." |
Vincent Athena
V.I.C.E.
1611
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Posted - 2013.02.18 17:42:00 -
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I want to make sure I understand... If I want to replace a squad commander, its a two move process? First remove the old commander, then drop in the new one? I cannot drop the new one in the squad commander position and have the old one pop out?
And I like the "save fleet setup" idea. Be able to save the fleet with a name, advert, who can join, number of wings and squads, and if free move is on. Then be able to select: Create "Vincent's sleeper killing fleet" and its all there. http://vincentoneve.wordpress.com/ |
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CCP karkur
C C P C C P Alliance
1972
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Posted - 2013.02.18 17:51:00 -
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Vincent Athena wrote:I want to make sure I understand... If I want to replace a squad commander, its a two move process? First remove the old commander, then drop in the new one? I cannot drop the new one in the squad commander position and have the old one pop out?
And I like the "save fleet setup" idea. Be able to save the fleet with a name, advert, who can join, number of wings and squads, their names, voice options, and if free move is on. Then be able to select: Create "Vincent's sleeper killing fleet" and its all there. Yes, just like it was before, except 2 drag/drops rather then 2 5-layer right click menus
And I actually like the "save fleet setup" idea CCP karkur | User Interface Programmer | Team Pony Express | @CCP karkur |
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Jasmin Fox
Light Years Ahead
12
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Posted - 2013.02.18 17:55:00 -
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nice! I will love this new feature.
Well done, in advance! Jasmin |
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BeanBagKing
The Scope Gallente Federation
229
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Posted - 2013.02.18 17:56:00 -
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CCP karkur wrote:And I actually like the "save fleet setup" idea \o/ CCP karkur likes it! Teh Impliment pretty please? |
Dr Ogres
Tasty Beverage
6
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Posted - 2013.02.18 18:02:00 -
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dear CCP karkur,
I love you. please father my children.
Thanks, Dr Ogres |
Serina Tsukaya
Boob Heads Test Alliance Please Ignore
19
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Posted - 2013.02.18 18:04:00 -
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CCP Explorer wrote:Hashi Lebwohl wrote:Similar to the green highlight for youself in fleet could you help Wing and fleet commanders identify those individuals in the wing/fleet that have leadership 5 - say highlight them in blue. This would really help in full fleets where a squad has 10 members but nobody has taken the squad commander position. You could then put someone into command immediately rather than search through the fleet composition for the squad member with the right skill. You are not supposed to know other characters' skills; unless you get their explicit approval, such as by them giving you an EVE API key.
Yet isn't it possible to see what skills they have through the unit comp window? |
Gilbaron
Free-Space-Ranger Nulli Secunda
825
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Posted - 2013.02.18 18:04:00 -
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Fantastic changes! We are recruiting german-speaking PVP players, contact me :)
Malcanis - CSM 8 |
Grideris
Fleet Coordination Commission Fleet Coordination Coalition
530
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Posted - 2013.02.18 18:05:00 -
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CCP Explorer wrote:Hashi Lebwohl wrote:Similar to the green highlight for youself in fleet could you help Wing and fleet commanders identify those individuals in the wing/fleet that have leadership 5 - say highlight them in blue. This would really help in full fleets where a squad has 10 members but nobody has taken the squad commander position. You could then put someone into command immediately rather than search through the fleet composition for the squad member with the right skill. You are not supposed to know other characters' skills; unless you get their explicit approval, such as by them giving you an EVE API key.
There is an exception to this it seems. The Fleet Composition window shows the Leadership/Wing Command/Fleet Command levels for any subordinates in your fleet (squad commander can see squad, wing commander wing, Boss/Fleet Commander everyone). As such, Implementing the change suggested wouldn't be adding any new information previously unobtainable; just makes it slightly easier to see. Mind you, the drag/drop thing if it works from the fleet composition window for individuals should fix most of the issue as you can sort by skill levels.
Dev Blog wrote:I think it would be super cool if it was possible to mass-move members, for example to select and drag all the logistic pilots in the fleet composition window and drop them in a squad, but that improvement will have to wait for now.
If you do this, I will be happy forever. Literally. Though then again, these changes are already going to make me happy forever. Literally.
Another thing that would make me super happy is if the fleet composition window showed which squad/wing a member is in. Even better would be a "jump to" option that would move the window to that member and highlight them (as if you had selected them). http://www.dust514.org - the unofficial forum for everything DUST 514 http://www.dust514base.com - the blog site with everything else DUST 514 you need
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Sentient Blade
Walk It Off
772
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Posted - 2013.02.18 18:12:00 -
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So my question is will the fleet window freeze when you are dragging people? Or otherwise prevent a situation where third party actions in the fleet (such as joining it, or moving squads) won't move the list from under you and end up dropping a random person into wing command etc.
For example, if you have Wing 1 + 2 and you're trying to drop someone into Squad commander of Wing 2, but someone in Wing 1 jumps into a squad, everything in the list moves down one, and your cursor is now over the Wing commander position instead. |
Liang Nuren
Heretic Army Atrocitas
3075
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Posted - 2013.02.18 18:14:00 -
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These changes are so fantastic they show fantastic what it means to be fantastic.
-Liang Normally on 5:00 -> 9-10:00 Eve (Aus TZ?) Blog: http://liangnuren.wordpress.com PVP Videos: http://www.youtube.com/user/LiangNuren/videos Twitter: http://twitter.com/LiangNuren
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CCP karkur
C C P C C P Alliance
1979
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Posted - 2013.02.18 18:17:00 -
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Dr Ogres wrote:dear CCP karkur,
I love you. please father my children.
Thanks, Dr Ogres don't like your kids anymore, trying to rid of them? CCP karkur | User Interface Programmer | Team Pony Express | @CCP karkur |
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CCP karkur
C C P C C P Alliance
1979
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Posted - 2013.02.18 18:18:00 -
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Sentient Blade wrote:So my question is will the fleet window freeze when you are dragging people? Or otherwise prevent a situation where third party actions in the fleet (such as joining it, or moving squads) won't move the list from under you and end up dropping a random person into wing command etc.
For example, if you have Wing 1 + 2 and you're trying to drop someone into Squad commander of Wing 2, but someone in Wing 1 jumps into a squad, everything in the list moves down one, and your cursor is now over the Wing commander position instead. No, it does not freeze, but it should not scroll all the way back up like it did in some cases before. If this does become a problem, we'll deal with it CCP karkur | User Interface Programmer | Team Pony Express | @CCP karkur |
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CCP karkur
C C P C C P Alliance
1979
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Posted - 2013.02.18 18:23:00 -
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Grideris wrote:. Mind you, the drag/drop thing if it works from the fleet composition window for individuals should fix most of the issue as you can sort by skill levels. It does work from the fleet comp window
Grideris wrote:. Dev Blog wrote:I think it would be super cool if it was possible to mass-move members, for example to select and drag all the logistic pilots in the fleet composition window and drop them in a squad, but that improvement will have to wait for now. If you do this, I will be happy forever. Literally. Though then again, these changes are already going to make me happy forever. Literally. Another thing that would make me super happy is if the fleet composition window showed which squad/wing a member is in. Even better would be a "jump to" option that would move the window to that member and highlight them (as if you had selected them). I want to do the mass move thingy, but it's going to be a lot more work, so we'll see what happens CCP karkur | User Interface Programmer | Team Pony Express | @CCP karkur |
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CCP Explorer
C C P C C P Alliance
1411
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Posted - 2013.02.18 18:25:00 -
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Grideris wrote:CCP Explorer wrote:Hashi Lebwohl wrote:Similar to the green highlight for youself in fleet could you help Wing and fleet commanders identify those individuals in the wing/fleet that have leadership 5 - say highlight them in blue. This would really help in full fleets where a squad has 10 members but nobody has taken the squad commander position. You could then put someone into command immediately rather than search through the fleet composition for the squad member with the right skill. You are not supposed to know other characters' skills; unless you get their explicit approval, such as by them giving you an EVE API key. There is an exception to this it seems. The Fleet Composition window shows the Leadership/Wing Command/Fleet Command levels for any subordinates in your fleet (squad commander can see squad, wing commander wing, Boss/Fleet Commander everyone). As such, Implementing the change suggested wouldn't be adding any new information previously unobtainable; just makes it slightly easier to see. Mind you, the drag/drop thing if it works from the fleet composition window for individuals should fix most of the issue as you can sort by skill levels. That what window? Seriously, I didn't know this window existed and it goes against some of the basic general principles of "fog of war" and privacy we follow Ah, well, one always learns something new every day. Thanks for the correction. Erlendur S. Thorsteinsson | Software Director | EVE Online, CCP Games | Follow on: Twitter / Google+ |
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DarthNefarius
Minmatar Heavy Industries
616
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Posted - 2013.02.18 18:32:00 -
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CCP Explorer wrote:Hashi Lebwohl wrote:Similar to the green highlight for youself in fleet could you help Wing and fleet commanders identify those individuals in the wing/fleet that have leadership 5 - say highlight them in blue. This would really help in full fleets where a squad has 10 members but nobody has taken the squad commander position. You could then put someone into command immediately rather than search through the fleet composition for the squad member with the right skill. You are not supposed to know other characters' skills; unless you get their explicit approval, such as by them giving you an EVE API key.
Excuse me but the Fleet option for "Show composition" already does show skills (leadership/wing/fleet) so you are incorrect. Ripard Teg-á for CSM 8 |
Alice Katsuko
Terra Incognita Unclaimed.
191
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Posted - 2013.02.18 18:34:00 -
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This is awesome. Please consider these improvements as well, if the team has time on its schedule:
(1) Drag and drop from the Fleet Composition window.
(2) For Align/Jump/Warp broadcasts, please put the name of the broadcaster at the end of the broadcast, not the beginning. 99% of players don't care who those broadcast came from; they want to know what the broadcast is. This is my fleet window; the system names get cut off every time unless I expand it, which is not all that attractive an option because this is what I see in a fleet. The pilot name should remain at the front for most other broadcasts where it's important, however.
(3) Designating a backup fleet boss if the current fleet boss disconnects, so that control of the fleet doesn't get assigned to a random fleet member due to connection, client or server issues.
(4) Designating a starter squad and wing, so joining pilots aren't dumped into the fourth squad of the third wing for no apparent reason.
(5) Make the fleet boosters give bonuses even when they're not in a command position, without players having to do weird things with session change timers. Currently, a fleet booster has to also be in his appropriate command position to provide boosts (i.e. a wing booster also has to be a wing commander). Otherwise he doesn't pass on boosts.
(6) Titan bridges break if the player trying to take a bridge undergoes a session change while the bridge is up, for example by docking/undocking. It's been a known bug for years. |
Sentient Blade
Walk It Off
772
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Posted - 2013.02.18 18:37:00 -
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CCP Explorer wrote:That what window? Seriously, I didn't know this window existed and it goes against some of the basic principles of "fog of war" and privacy we follow Ah, well, one always learns something new every day. Thanks for the correction.
Fleet Composition window. Shows a number for Fleet-Wing-Squad leadership ability. Could actually do with being improved upon as the other person said as knowing who is actually able to pass down bonuses is a nightmare.
On another note, considering we will soon have the ability to invite to positions, can we please have squad / wing level fleet adverts?
I don't mean to say they have to be individually registered, but if an existing fleet advert existed we could drag a wing or squad into chat and it appear as "Fleet Advert Name - Wing 1" and clicking it would attempt to join you to that wing, or likewise if you were already in the fleet it would move you to the first available slot in that particular wing.
I've been in many fleets where it's a nightmare trying to get the Logis in one wing, heavy DPS in another, tackle in another. Throwing a few wing level fleet adverts into chat would be fantastic. |
Trebor Daehdoow
Dirt Nap Squad Dirt Nap Squad.
2577
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Posted - 2013.02.18 18:41:00 -
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Oh karkur, never change. Keep on being quietly awesome. The Sarcasm is Strong with Me GÇó Member of CSM 5-7 GÇó Blog |
Alice Katsuko
Terra Incognita Unclaimed.
191
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Posted - 2013.02.18 18:41:00 -
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CCP Explorer wrote:Grideris wrote:CCP Explorer wrote:Hashi Lebwohl wrote:Similar to the green highlight for youself in fleet could you help Wing and fleet commanders identify those individuals in the wing/fleet that have leadership 5 - say highlight them in blue. This would really help in full fleets where a squad has 10 members but nobody has taken the squad commander position. You could then put someone into command immediately rather than search through the fleet composition for the squad member with the right skill. You are not supposed to know other characters' skills; unless you get their explicit approval, such as by them giving you an EVE API key. There is an exception to this it seems. The Fleet Composition window shows the Leadership/Wing Command/Fleet Command levels for any subordinates in your fleet (squad commander can see squad, wing commander wing, Boss/Fleet Commander everyone). As such, Implementing the change suggested wouldn't be adding any new information previously unobtainable; just makes it slightly easier to see. Mind you, the drag/drop thing if it works from the fleet composition window for individuals should fix most of the issue as you can sort by skill levels. That what window? Seriously, I didn't know this window existed and it goes against some of the basic general principles of "fog of war" and privacy we follow Ah, well, one always learns something new every day. Thanks for the correction.
Most fleet commanders don't know about that window either. It shows a fleet member's location and ship type if undocked, and his Leadership, Wing Command, and Fleet Command levels.
It doesn't go against privacy or fog of war principles. A player should give up a certain amount of privacy by joining a fleet, and in this case the loss isn't substantial and is fully voluntary. If a player doesn't want the fleet boss to know what he is flying, he should not be in fleet in the first place.
At the same time, it is of considerable help to (knowledgeable) fleet commanders in running a fleet. |
Grideris
Fleet Coordination Commission Fleet Coordination Coalition
530
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Posted - 2013.02.18 18:42:00 -
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CCP Explorer wrote:Grideris wrote:CCP Explorer wrote:Hashi Lebwohl wrote:Similar to the green highlight for youself in fleet could you help Wing and fleet commanders identify those individuals in the wing/fleet that have leadership 5 - say highlight them in blue. This would really help in full fleets where a squad has 10 members but nobody has taken the squad commander position. You could then put someone into command immediately rather than search through the fleet composition for the squad member with the right skill. You are not supposed to know other characters' skills; unless you get their explicit approval, such as by them giving you an EVE API key. There is an exception to this it seems. The Fleet Composition window shows the Leadership/Wing Command/Fleet Command levels for any subordinates in your fleet (squad commander can see squad, wing commander wing, Boss/Fleet Commander everyone). As such, Implementing the change suggested wouldn't be adding any new information previously unobtainable; just makes it slightly easier to see. Mind you, the drag/drop thing if it works from the fleet composition window for individuals should fix most of the issue as you can sort by skill levels. That what window? Seriously, I didn't know this window existed and it goes against some of the basic general principles of "fog of war" and privacy we follow Ah, well, one always learns something new every day. Thanks for the correction.
Please don't remove it! It is immensely useful as an FC to see who has the skills to fit into each position. I guess if you really are pedantic about making it that players must explicitly allow people to see their skills, make it an option you can turn off. However, making it default to "off" will make a lot of FCs cry.
I guess in some ways you do get explicit permission; by agreeing to join the fleet, you agree to show any superiors in fleet your leadership/wing command/fleet command skills. http://www.dust514.org - the unofficial forum for everything DUST 514 http://www.dust514base.com - the blog site with everything else DUST 514 you need
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Atomic Option
Taggart Transdimensional Virtue of Selfishness
38
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Posted - 2013.02.18 18:42:00 -
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CCP Explorer wrote:Hashi Lebwohl wrote:Similar to the green highlight for youself in fleet could you help Wing and fleet commanders identify those individuals in the wing/fleet that have leadership 5 - say highlight them in blue. This would really help in full fleets where a squad has 10 members but nobody has taken the squad commander position. You could then put someone into command immediately rather than search through the fleet composition for the squad member with the right skill. You are in general not supposed to know other characters' skills; unless you get their explicit approval, such as by them giving you an EVE API key. Edit: Correction regarding the fleet composition window here https://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=posts&m=2632802#post2632802
There's an exception to this in making your certificates public (doesn't tell exact skills but implys the minimums for the cert). Could that functionality be based off of public leadership certificates? |
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CCP Explorer
C C P C C P Alliance
1412
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Posted - 2013.02.18 18:43:00 -
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Alice Katsuko wrote:It doesn't go against privacy or fog of war principles. A player should give up a certain amount of privacy by joining a fleet, and in this case the loss isn't substantial and is fully voluntary. If a player doesn't want the fleet boss to know what he is flying, he should not be in fleet in the first place. Part of privacy is knowing when you give up privacy and what you give away.
Erlendur S. Thorsteinsson | Software Director | EVE Online, CCP Games | Follow on: Twitter / Google+ |
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CCP Explorer
C C P C C P Alliance
1412
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Posted - 2013.02.18 18:45:00 -
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Atomic Option wrote:CCP Explorer wrote:Hashi Lebwohl wrote:Similar to the green highlight for youself in fleet could you help Wing and fleet commanders identify those individuals in the wing/fleet that have leadership 5 - say highlight them in blue. This would really help in full fleets where a squad has 10 members but nobody has taken the squad commander position. You could then put someone into command immediately rather than search through the fleet composition for the squad member with the right skill. You are in general not supposed to know other characters' skills; unless you get their explicit approval, such as by them giving you an EVE API key. Edit: Correction regarding the fleet composition window here https://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=posts&m=2632802#post2632802 There's an exception to this in making your certificates public (doesn't tell exact skills but implys the minimums for the cert). Could that functionality be based off of public leadership certificates? That's not an exception; I mentioned an EVE API key as an example ("such as by them giving you an EVE API key") and the certificate system (and medals) is another example where you decide to make the information available. Erlendur S. Thorsteinsson | Software Director | EVE Online, CCP Games | Follow on: Twitter / Google+ |
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