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Igualmentedos
Shadow Veil Industrial Shadow Directive
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Posted - 2011.10.15 19:23:00 -
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Kengutsi Akira wrote:Azelor Delaria wrote:Lovelocke wrote:More tears about the uni haha love it. I love how griefers use "legitimate" mechanics which happen to help them, such as neut RR etc, but as soon as their targets use a legitimate mechanic they cry more tears than they've ever collected!
Oh and Poetic, can't really say much more. Kinda thought you would be letting your hardon die down and move on. Obviously not. I'm personally all for every single advantage given to e-uni because they actually do a hell of a lot for the game and all of you faggots filling the thread with tears; what the **** have you done for the game? Exactly, now stfu and do one. That's just it...it wasn't a legit mechanic. It was, and should by all rights, still be considered an exploit. like kiting CONCORD? Quote:Cleaning up your own CONCORD spawn, so other people can make their own attack runs, is actually really easy. Dock at the closest station to the belt you just ganked in, then immediately undock in a newbie ship and don't move - simply drift for 30 seconds with your docking immunity. This will pull CONCORD to you, and since you have your docking immunity sentry guns will not kill you before CONCORD gets there. If multiple people participated in a gank, they should all do this at the same time. Quote:Sometimes clever pubbies, or lazy goons, will leave a spawn in a belt. You need to get rid of that before you gank, or you'll be instagibbed when you gank (unless you're in a Galtpest).
Concord usually only spawns one fleet per system. Concord, once spawned, will travel from place to place dealing with anything that shoots something they shouldn't. That means you just need to summon CONCORD somewhere else: take a newbieship in an alt and plink something - a GSC, or the staging pos. Just don't do it near faction police or sentry guns, so you don't die before CONCORD gets there.
If two people gank at once, however, there will be two fleets. It appears that the closest spawn is the one that moves: ergo get closer to the spawn you want to move (nearby belt, nearby pos, whatever) than the one you don't, then summon it. If all else fails, use safespots just off-grid. Don't worry about CONCORD being close: they take a flat 6 seconds to warp regardless of distance. yeah cause thats not exploiting game mechanics at all
This is why people laugh at the "leet pvpers" theyre just a bunch of carebears lmao. |
Renan Ruivo
Hipernova Vera Cruz Alliance
157
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Posted - 2011.10.15 21:52:00 -
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If i block you, does that keeps your threads away from my front page? Sometimes the only difference between a budding genius and a blooming idiot is where they chose to take a stand. |
Ogi Talvanen
Enlightened Industries Test Alliance Please Ignore
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Posted - 2011.10.15 22:38:00 -
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Confirming Kelduum Revaan leads secret CSM composed only of secret Uni Directors. |
Poetic Stanziel
Arrakis Technology
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Posted - 2011.10.15 22:43:00 -
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Ogi Talvanen wrote:Confirming Kelduum Revaan leads secret CSM composed only of secret Uni Directors. Just Kelduum. He's a one-man Shadow CSM. He's the only one in the Uni that discusses game mechanics with CCP.
The War-Free University-á- http://poeticstanziel.blogspot.com/2011/10/war-free-university.html |
Ogi Talvanen
Enlightened Industries Test Alliance Please Ignore
9
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Posted - 2011.10.15 22:49:00 -
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You dont think Darian Reymont and Irdalth Delrar arent also in it? |
Azmodeus Valar
EVE University Ivy League
0
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Posted - 2011.10.15 22:56:00 -
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Ogi Talvanen wrote:You dont think Darian Reymont and Irdalth Delrar arent also in it?
Darian isn't, Irdalth isn't. Only those directors who have been inducted into the Secret Society of the Shadows are given access to the CCP skype conferences and messenger. It is a long an arduous process to become one of the Shadow Directors, but well worth it. We get briefings on game mechanics, special input into setting coding priorities, and naked pictures of the devs. We also get cookies.
/sarcasm |
Poetic Stanziel
Arrakis Technology
111
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Posted - 2011.10.15 23:01:00 -
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Azmodeus Valar wrote: We get briefings on game mechanics, special input into setting coding priorities, and naked pictures of the devs. We also get cookies. Joking aside, the recent wardec policy change was made to appease Kelduum's constant bitching about his own WSOP griefing his corporation every time they were wardecced. And CCP is also under the illusion that EVE University is still a newbie training corporation, rather than a large PvP shelter for long-time carebears.
The War-Free University-á- http://poeticstanziel.blogspot.com/2011/10/war-free-university.html |
Ogi Talvanen
Enlightened Industries Test Alliance Please Ignore
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Posted - 2011.10.15 23:01:00 -
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I knew it! You are in it too!! |
Azmodeus Valar
EVE University Ivy League
0
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Posted - 2011.10.15 23:03:00 -
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Poetic Stanziel wrote:Azmodeus Valar wrote: We get briefings on game mechanics, special input into setting coding priorities, and naked pictures of the devs. We also get cookies. Joking aside, the recent wardec policy change was made to appease Kelduum's constant bitching about his own WSOP griefing his corporation every time they were wardecced. And CCP is also under the illusion that EVE University is still a newbie training corporation, rather than a large PvP shelter for long-time carebears.
Your ability to say "joking aside", and then make bizarre accusations pieced together from the voices in your own head continues to amaze me. |
Kelduum Revaan
EVE University Ivy League
719
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Posted - 2011.10.15 23:07:00 -
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Of course, we know who started it all with the CSM...
So, its all your fault Poetic... go on, admit it. You started it all - you decided I should be on CSM 7 back in August.
(meanwhile, back in the real world and on a slightly more realistic note, the E-UNI forums now list how long someone has been in the corp in their profile, and will have all the accounts updated in about 3 days, so everyone can see just how much of Poetics data is being pulled out of his ass.) Kelduum Revaan CEO, EVE University |
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Dinsdale Pirannha
Pirannha Corp
9
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Posted - 2011.10.15 23:08:00 -
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Azmodeus Valar wrote:Ogi Talvanen wrote:You dont think Darian Reymont and Irdalth Delrar arent also in it? Darian isn't, Irdalth isn't. Only those directors who have been inducted into the Secret Society of the Shadows are given access to the CCP skype conferences and messenger. It is a long an arduous process to become one of the Shadow Directors, but well worth it. We get briefings on game mechanics, special input into setting coding priorities, and naked pictures of the devs. We also get cookies. /sarcasm
Az, I thought that the Shadow Dir's had to go through the crucible of D6 before entering the Society.
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Azmodeus Valar
EVE University Ivy League
0
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Posted - 2011.10.15 23:13:00 -
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Dinsdale Pirannha wrote:Azmodeus Valar wrote:Ogi Talvanen wrote:You dont think Darian Reymont and Irdalth Delrar arent also in it? Darian isn't, Irdalth isn't. Only those directors who have been inducted into the Secret Society of the Shadows are given access to the CCP skype conferences and messenger. It is a long an arduous process to become one of the Shadow Directors, but well worth it. We get briefings on game mechanics, special input into setting coding priorities, and naked pictures of the devs. We also get cookies. /sarcasm Az, I thought that the Shadow Dir's had to go through the crucible of D6 before entering the Society.
For revealing our secrets, we are placing you under double secret probation. |
Ogi Talvanen
Enlightened Industries Test Alliance Please Ignore
12
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Posted - 2011.10.15 23:13:00 -
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They replaced that with naked dancing under the moonlight. After that you are shadow CSM shadow director. |
Poetic Stanziel
Arrakis Technology
111
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Posted - 2011.10.15 23:14:00 -
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Kelduum Revaan wrote:(Meanwhile, back in the real world and on a slightly more realistic note, the E-UNI forums now list how long someone has been in the corp in their profile, and will have all the 20,000 accounts updated in about three days, so everyone can see just how much of Poetics data is being pulled out of his ass.) E-Uni has 20,000 members now? Who the hell cares about any of the forum posters other than E-Uni members. And how long someone has been in the corp is meaningless (since most of the longtime carebears jump corp every single wardec) ... it's how long someone has been in the game.
My data is accurate and drawn from your published members list. A minority of E-Uni members have been playing the game for three months or less.
The War-Free University-á- http://poeticstanziel.blogspot.com/2011/10/war-free-university.html |
Kelduum Revaan
EVE University Ivy League
719
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Posted - 2011.10.15 23:16:00 -
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Poetic Stanziel wrote:My data is accurate and drawn from your published members list. A minority of E-Uni members have been playing the game for three months or less.
Then please, post it here so everyone can see.
... actually no, don't, as if it has come out of your ass, I'd rather not see it.
Kelduum Revaan CEO, EVE University |
Ogi Talvanen
Enlightened Industries Test Alliance Please Ignore
12
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Posted - 2011.10.15 23:18:00 -
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Kinky. |
Poetic Stanziel
Arrakis Technology
112
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Posted - 2011.10.15 23:20:00 -
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Kelduum Revaan wrote:Poetic Stanziel wrote:My data is accurate and drawn from your published members list. A minority of E-Uni members have been playing the game for three months or less. Actually no, don't, as if it has come out of your ass, I'd rather not see it. Coming from someone who was just attempting to pass off "how long someone has been in E-Uni" as a meaningful metric, that's priceless. Especially when E-Uni encourages carebears to drop corp every wardec (thus resetting the "time in E-Uni" counter.)
The War-Free University-á- http://poeticstanziel.blogspot.com/2011/10/war-free-university.html |
Dinsdale Pirannha
Pirannha Corp
10
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Posted - 2011.10.15 23:38:00 -
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Poetic, regarding all the notoriety you are bringing to your 12 char Jita based mfg corp, how thrilled are they?
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Ogi Talvanen
Enlightened Industries Test Alliance Please Ignore
14
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Posted - 2011.10.15 23:39:00 -
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They dont know. |
Kelduum Revaan
EVE University Ivy League
720
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Posted - 2011.10.15 23:43:00 -
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Poetic, please quote the whole post, and do feel free to post your data, despite it likely being somewhat... unhygienic. That said, I'm not certain why the majority of E-UNI members apparently being in the corp for over 3 months would be a bad thing - surely that means there is significant player retention?
Anyway, the "time in E-Uni" counter is the total number of weeks the character spent in E-UNI, coming from the Character Info API and rounded down.
Go check my profile there and do the math yourself if you need to - I'm listed as being in E-UNI for 264 weeks, even though I first joined on 2006.07.27, 272 weeks ago. Kelduum Revaan CEO, EVE University |
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Ogi Talvanen
Enlightened Industries Test Alliance Please Ignore
14
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Posted - 2011.10.15 23:48:00 -
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Thats lot of weeks. |
Poetic Stanziel
Arrakis Technology
112
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Posted - 2011.10.15 23:51:00 -
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Kelduum Revaan wrote:Poetic, please quote the whole post, and do feel free to post your data, despite it likely being somewhat... unhygienic. That said, I'm not certain why the majority of E-UNI members apparently being in the corp for over 3 months would be a bad thing - surely that means there is significant player retention? I see you added a Registered row. That's good. That's the more interesting and useful metric.
That's fantastic that E-Uni has lots and lots of player retention and that players feel snug and warm within the confines of EVE Uni. What it means though is that EVE Uni is no longer a simple training corporation, and more of a shelter for carebears from PvP. You certainly don't need 1000 carebears to train 50 newbs, correct?
Whereas you may still train newbies, the primary function of the University for the majority of your members is certainly not training. Most of your members have next to zero contact with newbies.
The War-Free University-á- http://poeticstanziel.blogspot.com/2011/10/war-free-university.html |
Kelduum Revaan
EVE University Ivy League
720
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Posted - 2011.10.16 00:03:00 -
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Poetic Stanziel wrote:Whereas you may still train newbies, the primary function of the University for the majority of your members is certainly not training. Most of your members have next to zero contact with newbies.
So, then just what is it? Carebearing maybe?
I hate to repeat myself, but as in your other thread, "proof or STFU".
Kelduum Revaan CEO, EVE University |
Renan Ruivo
Hipernova Vera Cruz Alliance
159
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Posted - 2011.10.16 00:04:00 -
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I really really really
really
don't get what all this high-sec drama is all about. Didn't even know that high-sec could breed drama... this sounds so out of place to me.. Sometimes the only difference between a budding genius and a blooming idiot is where they chose to take a stand. |
Ogi Talvanen
Enlightened Industries Test Alliance Please Ignore
15
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Posted - 2011.10.16 00:08:00 -
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Well let me explain. Kelduum the Shadow CSM wants to remove all pvp from high sec and Poetic is against it. |
Poetic Stanziel
Arrakis Technology
113
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Posted - 2011.10.16 00:12:00 -
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Kelduum Revaan wrote:Poetic Stanziel wrote:Whereas you may still train newbies, the primary function of the University for the majority of your members is certainly not training. Most of your members have next to zero contact with newbies. So, then just what is it? Carebearing maybe? You're using your No-WSOP month as proof that your corporation is full of ravenous, war-hungry students? If so, then why the need for a 19 corporation decshield? If you guys aren't carebears and you love PvP so much, why not invite it on a constant basis. Be the next RvB. (Oh right, because whereas a month was a novelty, war all the time would lose you 1000 carebears, and without numbers, and the pretend notion that you're mostly filled with newbies, CCP would pay you ****-all attention.)
The War-Free University-á- http://poeticstanziel.blogspot.com/2011/10/war-free-university.html |
Darian Reymont
EVE University Ivy League
25
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Posted - 2011.10.16 00:15:00 -
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Did you know that I am actually the popular actor, Bruce Boxleitner? You may remember me from my roles as Tron in the Tron movies and Captain John Sheridan the popular sci-fi series, Babylon 5.
What's that? Proof? Err... did you know I am actually the popular actor, Bruce Boxleitner? Director of Human Resources EVE University |
Ogi Talvanen
Enlightened Industries Test Alliance Please Ignore
15
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Posted - 2011.10.16 00:16:00 -
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We know you are Bruce Boxleitner. |
Dinsdale Pirannha
Pirannha Corp
10
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Posted - 2011.10.16 00:21:00 -
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Ogi Talvanen wrote:Well let me explain. Kelduum the Shadow CSM wants to remove all pvp from high sec and Poetic is against it.
No no, get it straight.
Mittens is actually a puppet of Kelduum's.
The whole thing about Mittens' thing "0.0 good, high sec bad" is part of an extremely complicated ploy of Kelduum's. He has been working on it for years. Kelduum tried explaining it to me once, but my eyes started bleeding because it was way too devious for me to understand. His plan is reaching end game soon.
Kelduum does not want to remove PvP from high sec, he wants to remove ALL PvP, everywhere. Think how much happier we would all be if we would all laid down our pitchforks and lasers, held hands, and sang Kum-By-Ya.
I for one will welcome the new Eve, where peace and prosperity is available to all.
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Poetic Stanziel
Arrakis Technology
113
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Posted - 2011.10.16 00:25:00 -
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Kelduum Revaan wrote:Retention rate is a pretty basic thing in MMOs - especially when it comes to the 2nd and 3rd monthly subs which tend to be the point where players continue to play, so I would have thought that E-UNI having a number of people who have been playing for more than 3 months would be a good thing, especially when you consider we haven't been recruiting much in the last month, people tend to stop playing so end with older characters before they join us, and CCP have been running the "come back to EVE" stuff fairly heavily. And that's great if you help a new player stay with EVE Online past the three month mark. I'm sure a lot of corporations help with that. EVE-Uni might do it slightly better than most.
But ...
EVE University has 1500 members. And like I've stated, a small percentage of those (15%) could be described as newbies, as players requiring training.
EVE University certainly doesn't need 1000 veterans to train 150 newbies, does it? Most of the those 1000 veterans have little at all to do with the newbies. To most its an Incursion corporation, or a research and invention corporation ... it's anything but a training corp. One thousand of your members no longer require training in any aspect of this game.
To ensure that you remain a training corp, and are seen as a training corporation, and not this carebear commune you are slowly morphing into, perhaps you should consider some changes:
- Keep a permanent teaching staff of a couple or few hundred.
- Train new players for six months.
- At the end of six months you release them back into the wild.
The War-Free University-á- http://poeticstanziel.blogspot.com/2011/10/war-free-university.html |
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