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Smelly Muff
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Posted - 2005.08.25 21:06:00 -
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Ok, so now you can protect your can and attack ore thieves. All the macro miners have to do now is leave their drones out while mining Ice and any ore thif will get blasted by drones..... while the macro miner sits at work/sleeping etc.
Saw another group of 3 ice miners in nooby corps with a hauler constantly dragging nothing from the can until ice that is dragged auto into the can appears. Leaving a bookmark in the can so it doesnt implode.
Petition...nothing gets done..they still carry on weeks after...oh well  
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Necolycan
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Posted - 2005.08.25 21:07:00 -
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Because drones are scary? Pfft.
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Douglas McCracken
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Posted - 2005.08.25 21:13:00 -
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Cant see this change in the patchnotes
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Joshua Foiritain
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Posted - 2005.08.25 21:14:00 -
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Actually itll screw up Macro Miners. Bring a Bs, Steal ore, Laugh as they agro 
Sure you can no longer steal exploited Ore but you get to blow up them up now  ------------------
[Coreli Corporation Mainframe] |

Oi Poloi
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Posted - 2005.08.25 21:27:00 -
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Or better yet, the reverse:
1) Pop their can 2) put yours in place of it. 3) Wait till macro grabs your stuff 4) Profit! 
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Dark Shikari
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Posted - 2005.08.25 21:29:00 -
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Originally by: Oi Poloi Or better yet, the reverse:
1) Pop their can 2) put yours in place of it. 3) Wait till macro grabs your stuff 4) Profit! 
OMG quoted for truth...
This would be absolutely hilarious.
Macro mining 4tw!!! -- Proud member of the [23].
Selling Capital Cargo Bays and Kernite Mining Crystal IIs, cheaper than anyone else. |

SengH
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Posted - 2005.08.25 21:29:00 -
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now if their indys had local hulls equipped ..... hmmmmmmmmm
CCP hurry up the dammn can patch!
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Smelly Muff
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Posted - 2005.08.25 21:52:00 -
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I hadn't thought of that... If you take from their can and they attack you, can you defend yourself and blow them up without concorde killing you?
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Dark Shikari
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Posted - 2005.08.25 21:54:00 -
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Originally by: Smelly Muff
I hadn't thought of that... If you take from their can and they attack you, can you defend yourself and blow them up without concorde killing you?
If they attack you, yes.
Better yet, they take from your can, and you can aggress--even if they don't have drones!
All you have to do is empty their can, create your own, and when they take from your can as part of the macro, you own them.  -- Proud member of the [23].
Selling Capital Cargo Bays and Kernite Mining Crystal IIs, cheaper than anyone else. |

SengH
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Posted - 2005.08.25 21:55:00 -
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ofc... but if your in a gank BS :P you could have some fun.. or better yet hope all of them aggro you and only the one that made the can gets concoorden :)... another alternative atm would be putting drugs in the can that they are currently using hehe... watch to see if there are any customs agents around however.
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Messerschmitt facility
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Posted - 2005.08.25 21:57:00 -
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Yea? And how will you make them open your can? _________________________________
A conclusion is the place where you got tired of thinking...
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SengH
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Posted - 2005.08.25 22:00:00 -
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im assuming the macro does it off the overview since the place elsewhere on the screen would be totally random... and since cans on the overview are not tagged with the owner :) you can follow on from there :)
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Scoundrelus
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Posted - 2005.08.25 22:07:00 -
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Do what that guy in the inty did. Bumpify them. It'll throw off the macro-code. =============================================== I will punch you with my laser! -Scoundrelus |

Xachariah
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Posted - 2005.08.25 22:28:00 -
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Edited by: Xachariah on 25/08/2005 22:29:32 Nevermind, found it...
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Jaabaa Prime
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Posted - 2005.08.25 22:32:00 -
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It's not in this patch, it's in testing -- Intergalactic Teeth Pullers "Only two things are infinite, the universe and human stupidity, and I'm not sure about the former." Albert Einstein |

Trevin Starwind
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Posted - 2005.08.25 22:33:00 -
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as i understand it u can fire at ppl who take from your can.. but if they shoot back they will get nuked by concord...
if thry could fire back unrestricted it would mean a while new to allow pirates in empire..
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Jaabaa Prime
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Posted - 2005.08.25 22:37:00 -
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Originally by: Trevin Starwind as i understand it u can fire at ppl who take from your can.. but if they shoot back they will get nuked by concord...
if thry could fire back unrestricted it would mean a while new to allow pirates in empire..
I don't think so, if you decide to fire upon a thief you have initiated the aggression and the thief will be able to defend thier ship.
As I read it, it's up to the miner/mission runner/NPC hunter to decide if he wants to start combat. -- Intergalactic Teeth Pullers "Only two things are infinite, the universe and human stupidity, and I'm not sure about the former." Albert Einstein |

Makotar
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Posted - 2005.08.25 23:02:00 -
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Ah, I see what some are saying, but what if...
BS drops a can for miner to put ore into, BS doesn't attack miner. Ore theif comes and takes out of the can, can you say light up his life?
Possibilities, and revenge. Risk vs. Reward now? Think so! To Err is human, to really screw it up, you need a computer! |

SengH
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Posted - 2005.08.25 23:08:00 -
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easy solution. Mammoth has 5 midslots. 1 ab 4x racial jammers. Look @ the BS type. Oooh its a megathron. Megathron starts fires 1 shot. OMGF im jammed. Ore thief takes ore and runs.
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Alexis Ayala
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Posted - 2005.08.26 00:36:00 -
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Except that jamming doesn't always work. ~~~<*>~~~<*>~~~<*>~~~<*>~~~<*>~~~<*>~~~<*>~~~<*>~~~ Doctor Alexis Ayala GHINC - Gallente Horizons Incorporated |

Lorth
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Posted - 2005.08.26 00:55:00 -
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Originally by: Alexis Ayala Except that jamming doesn't always work.
But 4 race specific jammers on the same ship, is going to work far more often then not. Its almost a certainty that you will get away.
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The Enslaver
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Posted - 2005.08.26 01:06:00 -
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Also, it won't automatically cause the person to go aggro.... They'll just be able to shoot you if they want to.
If someone can set up a macro which can automatically decide who has stolen from their can, and to start shooting them... I'd be mighty impressed :P --------
FireFoxx80: If you think you can do a better job, go find yourself a datacentre to host a box, get a copy of Visual Studio, and STFU. |

SengH
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Posted - 2005.08.26 02:30:00 -
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u know it would be funny if the macro picked the wrong target and ganked one of its own ships.. resulting in it getting concoorden... would be interesting lol
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TjanitN Tcroxlr
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Posted - 2005.08.26 03:26:00 -
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CCP's official stance is that if you profit in any way from the crime of macroing, you are an accessory and can be banned as well as the macroer when caught. So you arent supposed to be stealing macroer ore anyway. And you can sui-gank macroers, but you'd better not have an alt/team member take their drops. And CCP forbid that you run a protection racket on macroers. Yeah, that's right, CCP doesnt want you to prey on the people who deserve it, only on the honest miners trying to maximze their profits with the largest containers available. Go figure.
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Andrue
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Posted - 2005.08.26 07:06:00 -
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Originally by: Joshua Foiritain Actually itll screw up Macro Miners. Bring a Bs, Steal ore, Laugh as they agro 
Sure you can no longer steal exploited Ore but you get to blow up them up now 
Only if they attack you first. -- (Battle hardened miner)
[Brackley, UK]
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infused
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Posted - 2005.08.26 07:11:00 -
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The macro program they use is based on colors. If you steal ore or pop there can, there not going to do anything different. All the macro program is doing is going "if there is a certian amount of grey here, this is a can, open it and put stuff in it"
"when orange bar at top is completly full, grab hauler"
None of your suggestions are going to work. They are not going to agro, the macro will just be stuffed until the person finds out.
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Rexthor Hammerfists
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Posted - 2005.08.26 07:19:00 -
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for the ew on hauler thing, just launch the drones before, and have 1 cap drainer on - the drones will put serious dmg on the hauler, and the one cap drain will elt the hauler run out of cap cause he has to tank the drones, and jammers use much cap too.
so he will fail to jamm at one point
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Basileus
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Posted - 2005.08.26 07:31:00 -
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Originally by: Oi Poloi Or better yet, the reverse:
1) Pop their can 2) put yours in place of it. 3) Wait till macro grabs your stuff 4) Profit! 
You good Sir, have come up with a Plan. Well done.
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Kerby Lane
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Posted - 2005.08.26 07:32:00 -
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Originally by: TjanitN Tcroxlr CCP's official stance is that if you profit in any way from the crime of macroing, you are an accessory and can be banned as well as the macroer when caught. So you arent supposed to be stealing macroer ore anyway. .
Thats why one have to petition macaro miner BEFORE steal their ore.
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Emarald Sween
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Posted - 2005.08.26 08:09:00 -
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i thought we already resolved this issue... go join MM killers chanel and report your macro sightings!!!
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