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Arathmon
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Posted - 2003.07.26 16:14:00 -
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Just got this chat log
[ 2003.07.26 15:58:51 ] Arathmon > hey man
[ 2003.07.26 15:59:07 ] Arathmon > hearing some rumors floating around about a stain alliance type deal in fountain
[ 2003.07.26 15:59:41 ] Shrike > They might be true, we are hired.
[ 2003.07.26 15:59:55 ] Arathmon > hired...? by who?
[ 2003.07.26 16:00:33 ] Arathmon > and to do what exactly?
[ 2003.07.26 16:00:40 ] Shrike > Employer, thats all i can tell you
[ 2003.07.26 16:01:17 ] Arathmon > what are you being employed to do?
[ 2003.07.26 16:01:49 ] Shrike > Secure fountain
[ 2003.07.26 16:01:55 ] Arathmon > from who?
[ 2003.07.26 16:02:29 ] Arathmon > just want to make sure my corp is not being threatened atm, because we can't have that
[ 2003.07.26 16:03:45 ] Shrike > Securing fountain, what corp you are in has nothing to do with it
[ 2003.07.26 16:04:12 ] Shrike > Prophetguru was adviced last night
[ 2003.07.26 16:04:29 ] Arathmon > he has yet to contact me. what 'advice' was he given?
[ 2003.07.26 16:05:45 ] Shrike > That it might be wise to move out of fountain
[ 2003.07.26 16:05:55 ] Shrike > I know Prophet since another game
[ 2003.07.26 16:06:01 ] Shrike > So he was wanred ahead
[ 2003.07.26 16:09:36 ] Arathmon > so what are you guys going to do? shoot anyone you see in fountain?
[ 2003.07.26 16:10:30 ] Arathmon > and try not to be evasive this time
[ 2003.07.26 16:10:35 ] Arathmon > get it out in the open what you plan
[ 2003.07.26 16:11:16 ] Shrike > We are hired to secure fountain for a number of corps on a safe list
[ 2003.07.26 16:11:45 ] Arathmon > so a 66 member corp is going to secure fountain...
[ 2003.07.26 16:11:49 ] Arathmon > well, good luck on that one
Anyone know anything?
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Ywev
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Posted - 2003.07.26 16:47:00 -
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Me thinks ya just got screwed :)
Pod ya later..
Ywev
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Darth Maul
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Posted - 2003.07.26 17:17:00 -
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Stain alliance, Venal alliance, now Fountain Alliance.. what's the universe comming to? lol
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ROFL
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Posted - 2003.07.26 17:37:00 -
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It is only natural for people to gang togather for mutual protection. This is actually the dev's fault for letting it happen the way it has. They had 4 empires in place, and this is what really should have been the 'segregation line' but with ZERO content and ZERO roleplay, people made their own content. Instead of using race, they used the regions to seperate themselves, forced also by the movemnt of bistot into outer regions. It's only a matter of time before a number of corps take each and every valuable region and claim it as their own with the universal language of force.
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Morkt Drakt
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Posted - 2003.07.26 17:55:00 -
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I'll add this to the "MDW Political Review" once i get some independent confirmation on it...
strategically this could be an interesting development.
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Muaddid
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Posted - 2003.07.26 18:06:00 -
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Seems Xanadu is officialy claiming the region... nice way to make enemies and get some pvp action i guess...
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QBall
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Posted - 2003.07.26 18:39:00 -
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LOL Evolution came and tried to take over Venal but got beat up, now they are going to fountain hahahahaah
Great stuff man I love this game.
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Dakkon
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Posted - 2003.07.26 18:50:00 -
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lol beat out of venul, when did this happen?? In one of your dreams there qball?
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Dragon Emperor
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Posted - 2003.07.26 18:56:00 -
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If any corps are trying to steal fountain from we old fountain residents, good luck to you.
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Ends
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Posted - 2003.07.26 19:07:00 -
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Its hard to figure out what is going on. I was there today. Some people were being allowed to move around, even dock and undock from the stations that were blockaded. This behavior is not consistent with a pirate type corp. Evolution has always been very tight lipped, and I personally adjusted their faction down a while back just on an instinctive heebee jeebee feeling after seeing some neg sec members so I would know when they were around. If they wanted to control the area they could easily ahve podded anyone going in and out of the station, but they didn't. They chose not to pod me, and I was new to the system and certainly not on their "safe list". A "safe list" was mentioned, and it was also said that "Fountain is not safe".
Perhaps they were merely hired by local forces to drive out some of the people living there. One thing that seems pretty certain is that Evolution is heading for a large scale problem. I have seen other very large and powerful organizations gain control of whole servers in other games, and they became careless about how many poeple they angered. Every time I have seen super powerful organizations begin to bully carelessly they get killed. Evolution seems like it may be headed down that road. Perhaps they should consider paying attention to public opinion and explain themselves.
Once again no one is sure what Evolution and co is up to... yet. But if this corp thinks its going to take over the fountain just becuse it thinks it can, my four battleships will be there to help prove otherwise, and I don't even live there. I really hope that something else is going on, but I fear this is a simple land grab. I hope I am wrong. Mabey Evolution are the heros and it just seems the other way. Either way I hope they start explaining themselves.
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sutty
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Posted - 2003.07.26 19:13:00 -
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Edited by: sutty on 26/07/2003 19:14:01
nm- cba arguing with venal they know what happened ;)
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Sonia
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Posted - 2003.07.26 19:39:00 -
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Would be nice to have a place free for all. many new corp have try to settle somewhere and the only place left seems to be foountain,(free of player killer) that is. if someone is trying to kick everyone out for just one corp to control all fountain, then u can try but i'm sure many current players there will not leave withough a fight. i haven't been out there much but it seens like a very nice place and many friendly bs. i will stand up for free usage of fountain and will fight for it to remain that way if i have to. i do not want to fight you .... but i 'll not be walk all over.
Rona corp
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Arathmon
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Posted - 2003.07.26 19:46:00 -
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The thing is, it's not Evolution and Xanadu that are taking over or "securing" Fountain. Rather, they seem to be the enforcers for some other corporation(s) paying them to do it. As for who these corp(s) are, I'm figuring they'd have to be rich and require room to grow, so take your guesses from there.
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Malakite
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Posted - 2003.07.26 19:46:00 -
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Edited by: Malakite on 26/07/2003 19:47:55
Its pretty silly to see corps try to take ownership of entire regions. I mean gods, man start small with 2 or 3 systems or a consteliation but an entire region?
I mean after star bases, turrets and etc things go in then I can understand how a corp can lay ownership a system or area of space. Your base is there, your protecting your assets. Trying to do it by flying around a few BBs is kinda silly, if not overly greedy.
Hiring priates to do your dirty work while you go unamed is just plain cowardish and shameful.
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Shock
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Posted - 2003.07.26 19:53:00 -
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They are basically trying to claim the the baby bistot there. And for claiming the entire Fountain they seem to be cluttering a bit too much at LQL only...
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Siris
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Posted - 2003.07.26 19:56:00 -
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I am pretty certain that the corporations who are now setting up in fountain are the same that have been there for a while and chased away m0o when they came visiting.
Last reports saying there are numerous corps on the military operation, but they are mostly telling people to leave the region, probably till their powerbase has been established and then hopefully they will relax their rule. Despite all this, I have heard no first hand accounts of ship or podkills tho I see on the map some has happened. |
Princess Akmazara
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Posted - 2003.07.26 19:58:00 -
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I know that EVOLUTION is a PK'ing pirate corporation like m0o was. They pod newbie players in empire space and claim your a "war casualty". They are evil and murderous killers  !!!!!
I was podded by them for no reason and all I got was "our business is our own". Nice job robot-brains!
Check out this thread for the truth of Evolution:
http://oldforums.eveonline.com/?a=topic&threadID=20947
Princess Akmazara
Amarrian Empire
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QBall
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Posted - 2003.07.26 20:00:00 -
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Just remember boys and girls if you wanna kill Evolution really good, just put on 2 thermal wards and 2 emp wards and they will only do around 5 damage per shot.
Each and everyone of them use LASERS. Unless it's changed in the last week.
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Raudka
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Posted - 2003.07.26 20:02:00 -
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Edited by: Raudka on 27/07/2003 17:27:29
My informant has given me a list of corporations involved in this, many on the list have not been seen in Fountain before and are now driving away corporations that have been there for a good while.
EDIT: This is the original SAFE LIST that EVOL, XAN, CEI and OEC work with
Cornexant and Kusari have stated that they are not joining them in this operation and can not account for their presence on the SAFE LIST
Outland Emperius Command [OEC]
Evolution [EVOL]
Cornvexant Corp [CNX]
Cutting Edge Inc. [CEI]
Endless Corporation [TEC]
Dark Empire [DE]
Kusari Systems [KSR]
Merchants Alliance [MAC]
Prometheus Prime [PRIME]
Nietzchean Logistics [NIET]
Xanadu [Xan]
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Riddari
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Posted - 2003.07.26 20:12:00 -
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Hmm.. I've met Cornexant people and thought they were friendly.
This is a surprising turn of events... trying to evict many established corporations from their area of operations.
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Princess Akmazara
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Posted - 2003.07.26 20:15:00 -
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Qball,
I'm pretty new to EVE. Can you send me an evemail with details of a good defensive mod lineup? I fly an indy (at least I will I have to pick it up).
Thank you,
Princess Akmazara
Amarrian Empire
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Elistan
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Posted - 2003.07.26 20:21:00 -
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Well i can assure u that we are friendly. As of whats going on in fountain i have no idea.
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Siris
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Posted - 2003.07.26 20:27:00 -
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It was as I suspected, that many of the long time inhabitants that participated in the antim0o campaign are together on this one as well.
However I also miss a few corporations from that list, but all I can think of is how a number of corps fled fountain when m0o arrived and that this can be taken as an offence towards those who stood and fought m0o.
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Arathmon
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Posted - 2003.07.26 20:32:00 -
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Things are happening now... I'm in the anti-EVOL group camping outside a station for them. Have about 9 bships here, and everyone in local is talking trash. Goooooo PVP!
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Dragon Emperor
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Posted - 2003.07.26 20:32:00 -
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yeah, i believe cornexent is friendly. That also makes wonder if cornexent and homeworld are all not included in the alliance, what's going on there? haven't return to sp for several days, I have no clue about it... anyone recently there can tell me what's going on?
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Hardin
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Posted - 2003.07.26 20:39:00 -
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One of my corp m8s was warp scrambled and shot at by Xan and Evolution players in LQL earlier despite taking no hostile actions...
We spoke to Xan about this who said it was a 'mistake'.
It would be nice if Xan and Evolution are claiming Fountain for themselves that they make some kind of announcement and it is a bit of a grey area at the moment.
If I knew for sure that Fountain was out of limits then I would ask corp m8 to withdraw from there at the moment...
I think it is sad if all small/medium sized corps no longer have anywhere to go outside empire space because they have all been claimed by big corps.
If that happens the big corps sityting on all the best minerals will just get bigger and everyone else will stagnate!
Anyway - Evolution and Xanadu - can we have some kind of statement about your intentions please.
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Arathmon
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Posted - 2003.07.26 20:40:00 -
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Cornextant seems too nice to be in on this, and HomeWorld Tech is against the closing of Fountain. Currently there are 85 pilots in local (and no, I do not have the chat bug atm). Trust me... the lag is unbearable. Gooooo PVP!
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Shollos
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Posted - 2003.07.26 20:42:00 -
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hey, if you want you can hire me for 10 mill and ill come kill some idiots;)
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Davius Kell
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Posted - 2003.07.26 21:04:00 -
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It getting hot in here or is it just me? ^^
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Raudka
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Posted - 2003.07.26 21:09:00 -
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It looks like this is about to be the biggest battle in EVE so far.
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Alyssa Talvoure
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Posted - 2003.07.26 21:11:00 -
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/me applauds CEI, good show m8's hunting down that Dominix
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Dragon Emperor
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Posted - 2003.07.26 21:14:00 -
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CEI is included in alliance?
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John Zeppe
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Posted - 2003.07.26 21:15:00 -
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Ehehe I'm currently there with another char, ninja-mining omber. 
Well seriously, nothing seems to have happened so far, we'll see later. |
Arathmon
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Posted - 2003.07.26 21:33:00 -
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Reportedly, 8 battleships were outside the m5 station in MN5N-X, so a lot of the force that was camping warped there. Unfortunately, the jump gate landed me and a corpmate right in the middle of their force, he lost his bship and I was able to dock once they all started targeting me. Thank jove for insurance. Anyway... I had to log then because my grandmother walked through the doorway, so I can't confirm anything else for several hours now.
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sutty
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Posted - 2003.07.26 21:40:00 -
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*cough* i heard the losses there not good on fountains side :P *cough* 
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StoreSlem
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Posted - 2003.07.26 21:58:00 -
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We just had a large encounter, however 40+ ships and 150+ drones rendered the game useless and people docked leaving losses at a minimum.
More information will follow, I'm sure.
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Alyssa Talvoure
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Posted - 2003.07.26 22:08:00 -
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Seems like current losses are
Fountain Alliance
1 Battleship
7 Cruisers
Fountain Resistance
3 Battleships
20 Cruisers
Maybe the organization of the Alliance will be the deciding factor in this war.
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Davius Kell
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Posted - 2003.07.26 22:10:00 -
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My Scorp got lag killed moving out the station, maybe a relog would have been a good idea ¼_¼
So brings Maw up to 2 BS lost, wasnt a bad little fight.
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Davius Kell
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Posted - 2003.07.26 22:19:00 -
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Though thinking about it, it really shows you how little thought and attention was given to mass battles.
The game lends itself to large fleet engagments but it slows down so badly all you can do it slap some targets on and just flick all your weapons on, totally skill-less and basicly no fun at all as all you see is a slideshow.
It really makes me want to go back to DAOC tbh
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KillCreep
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Posted - 2003.07.26 22:20:00 -
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Edited by: KillCreep on 26/07/2003 22:25:33
There was a big battle at the Moon5 station in MN5N-X.
Alliance force were slightly outnumbered and retreated in station. Thier mistake was that they tried to flee later, the result of it is shown by the following two pictures:
[url=http://home.tu-clausthal.de/~gejwa/laser.JPG]Picture1[/url]
Here we have Zeus[EVO]'s Armageddon (or was it an Apo?) leaving station.
[url=http://home.tu-clausthal.de/~gejwa/boom.JPG]Picture2[/url]
Around 300m away from the station the test of a new mega-smartbomb goes horribly wrong.
Right from the Battle to YOU!
(*grr* could someone tell me why the links are not working. Oh well, I assume you are clever enough for copy-paste...)
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Dragon Emperor
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Posted - 2003.07.26 22:28:00 -
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Edited by: Dragon Emperor on 26/07/2003 22:31:34
Picture1
Here we have Zeus[EVO]'s Armageddon (or was it an Apo?) leaving station.
Picture2
Around 300m away from the station the test of a new mega-smartbomb goes horribly wrong.
here you go.
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Dragon Emperor
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Posted - 2003.07.26 22:28:00 -
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use " around url
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Sedsiss
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Posted - 2003.07.26 22:34:00 -
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A. Zues isnt in evo.
B. You killed 2 people, yey! We killed over 20.
Just a little dose of reality before the vultures start screaming massacare
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KillCreep
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Posted - 2003.07.26 22:54:00 -
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True. Zeus is O.E.C - My bad.
20 - yes, when you invaded, you killed them one on one with superior force. But when we attacked you with an equal force you lost
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FoxDown
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Posted - 2003.07.26 22:56:00 -
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I am not aware of Cornexant being involved in any sort of 'fountain alliance' and if we were I don't think we would pay other corps to hold it for us. That said I am just a peon in Cornexant. :)
Nice to see some kind words from other corps that have had dealings with us.
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Horza Gobulchul
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Posted - 2003.07.26 22:56:00 -
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That was a great battle.
I m sorry for those who missed it.
See you next time
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Shollos
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Posted - 2003.07.26 23:15:00 -
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im confused, the resistance = evolution etc and the alliance = cornexant, homeworld, oec etc?
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Alpha Centauri
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Posted - 2003.07.26 23:19:00 -
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Arathmon
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Posted - 2003.07.26 23:19:00 -
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The alliance is Cutting Edge, Evolution and others (not certain who else, really)
The resistance is a large number of other corps, the only member I of which I can really confirm is Homeworld Technologies.
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Siris
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Posted - 2003.07.26 23:23:00 -
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Edited by: Siris on 26/07/2003 23:25:10
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M0RPHEUS
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Posted - 2003.07.26 23:24:00 -
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good luck to EVO, they are a good corporation that gave us a lot of headache in Venal. I am glad they moved to fountain  QBall, time for you to stop talking trash dude...its a game man...
Ask me nicely and I won't pod you... |
Joshua Calvert
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Posted - 2003.07.26 23:28:00 -
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I've heard Deep Core Mining has started a Lonetrek Alliance..........
LEEEEERRRRRRRRRRROOOOOOOOOYYYYYYYYYYYYYYY! |
Zeus
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Posted - 2003.07.27 00:02:00 -
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Edited by: Zeus on 27/07/2003 00:05:20
Dont get Happy Over a Crash to Desktop, Might you be wondering why I never turned around. 
Still I bet you got a giant stiffy of that view but to me, a battleship isnt something to cry over.
Personally I dont pod and nor does O.E.C
just abit of info before you get all heated up.
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Riddari
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Posted - 2003.07.27 00:17:00 -
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The 20 cruisers counted by the Fountain Axis (EVOL, XAN, OEC) were mostly miners and NPC killers that were killed, often without warning.
The first mark of hostility in the area was when my battleship was shot at by 3 battleships and 1 or 2 cruisers from EVOL.
I received no prior warning, no communcation while being shot at and had to specifically ask EVOL what exactly their problem was.
Kudos to them they did allow me to undock and repair, meanwhile they had me targeted.
They targeted, shot at and shot down several other players who had no idea of what was going on.
Counting those victims in their statistics is fair enough.. wars and statistics are the worst liars around.
In the battle at the station the alliance forces lost 3 cruisers and 1 battleship, one was killed by friendly fire. A far cry from 20 cruisers
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zoop
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Posted - 2003.07.27 00:28:00 -
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"I received no prior warning, no communcation while being shot at and had to specifically ask EVOL what exactly their problem was."
well if they came to claim your turf, it would be stupid of them to give you an advanced warning and give you time to prepare
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Tassadar Beta
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Posted - 2003.07.27 00:54:00 -
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Edited by: Tassadar Beta on 27/07/2003 17:57:40
Kusari Systems has been based in the Fountain/Aridia regions ever since the beta and I dont like the thought of an alliance claiming it for themselves good intentions or bad.
If this alliances intentions are to close or regulate the fountain region I can say that another 26 cruisers would be helping to keep it open. (By alliance I mean the corps trying to close down the fountain region). But I am unsure of our position on this matter so contact my CEO Mallus Kulov
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Artegg
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Posted - 2003.07.27 00:57:00 -
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Edited by: Artegg on 27/07/2003 00:59:19
well that battle was the most fun i have had in EVE so far even though the lag was very bad, but that can be expected with close to 60 ships in one area.
As for the ships killed on each side, well that is anyones guess.
PS Leave fountain alone
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Omniwar
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Posted - 2003.07.27 01:09:00 -
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Edited by: Omniwar on 27/07/2003 01:10:21
This was crazy, JUST BLOODY CRAZY, it was the best few minutes I have played in Eve.
I fought against Evol and pals and I have to say after few hours of stand off it was a good fight, not really a fair one I think since we had the eliment of surprice when warping in on the station for the kill. It was fun guys and I am pretty sure there will be alot of PvP in fountain now  since you will most likely not give up on your mission.
This has made the game alot more interesting, not to mention all the stress during those huge battles, beats mining and hunting npc rats thats for sure
Spawn of the Devil
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Custom X
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Posted - 2003.07.27 01:24:00 -
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That was alot of fun. i have to say the alliance only lost like 5 cruisers and 1 battleship in the attack. Good Fight.
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Mordineus
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Posted - 2003.07.27 01:42:00 -
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The Free Fountain Confederation did indeed have a victory over the would be formers of the "Fountain Alliance". The war is probably far from over, but the members of the FFC wish to keep the Fountain region open to all peaceful pilots.
Every day that we can keep them from controlling the region is another victory.
-] Mord
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Joshua Calvert
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Posted - 2003.07.27 01:46:00 -
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Artegg,
Nice to see Rona making a step forward
LEEEEERRRRRRRRRRROOOOOOOOOYYYYYYYYYYYYYYY! |
Kamel
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Posted - 2003.07.27 02:19:00 -
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The battle was great but ccp have hard work for this kind of fights.
GG all
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Zeus
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Posted - 2003.07.27 02:22:00 -
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Hardly a fight though, more like a slow motion slide show
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Murdoc
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Posted - 2003.07.27 02:30:00 -
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Edited by: Murdoc on 27/07/2003 02:34:03
"It is only natural for people to gang togather for mutual protection. This is actually the dev's fault for letting it happen the way it has. They had 4 empires in place, and this is what really should have been the 'segregation line"
Thats was ALWAYS a part of the game. do a bit of reading.
there are no rules only what a man can do and what a man can't do. if they can take a region then more power to them.
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Sequin
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Posted - 2003.07.27 02:38:00 -
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Victory, i'd call it a draw considering the FFC lost more ships in the end. But it was one of the funnest single moments in eve for me, and I hope theres more. This could become the single largest war in the history of PVP wars;)
SA v. Rus = 0
FA v. FFC = 1
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Riddari
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Posted - 2003.07.27 02:45:00 -
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Yes and with more ships on the way this looks like to become the first epic war in EVE.
Anyone interested in coming to see the show should be warned though, friendly fire does happen as one thorax pilot from FFC found out in tonights battle 
There are many corporations involved in this struggle, unfamiliar corporation tags could be shot at by both FA and FFC.
Best perhaps to view the screenshots posted (such as at http://eve.betra.is/screens) and the map to see podkills and shipkills (it's not working right though.. no podkills show up for MN5 now even if there were at least 3 I know off).
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KillCreep
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Posted - 2003.07.27 02:47:00 -
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Because we were not organized at that time. But don't count to kill many unsuspecting miners and NPC hunters the next time while they come out of ther stations one after one
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Jarjar
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Posted - 2003.07.27 03:28:00 -
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"There are many corporations involved in this struggle, unfamiliar corporation tags could be shot at by both FA and FFC."
Well hopefully not, then I won't be able to participate...
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DigitalCommunist
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Posted - 2003.07.27 05:54:00 -
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omg, just looking at that many ships.. all from different corps working together, jesus
I hope this invading "Fountain Alliance" has the balls to follow through.. this is a rather large bite for them 
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Alpha Centauri
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Posted - 2003.07.27 06:02:00 -
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Edited by: Alpha Centauri on 27/07/2003 06:11:28
check out this pic
fountain fleet
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Antony
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Posted - 2003.07.27 08:20:00 -
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Edited by: Antony on 27/07/2003 09:24:20
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Archa
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Posted - 2003.07.27 10:30:00 -
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ooh that picture doesn't show me:(
i was locked in the station that time:(
but I am on the battle screenshots! hooray:P
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Presidio
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Posted - 2003.07.27 10:42:00 -
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in the end the paisants prevailed:
see screenshots:
http://www.codeum.com/gods/
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"Passivity is fatal to us. Our goal is to make the enemy passive."
Mao Tse-tung
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Davius Kell
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Posted - 2003.07.27 12:02:00 -
[74]
Btw the "Bad guys" in this are the guys who originally setteled fountain, youll find its Homeworld etc, ie the new corps who are using this as an excuse to get a larger peice of the pie ¼_¼
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Tolanthas
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Posted - 2003.07.27 12:14:00 -
[75]
Edited by: Tolanthas on 27/07/2003 12:18:25
In response to,,null Posted - 26/07/2003 20:02:00
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My informant has given me a list of corporations involved in this, many on the list have not been seen in Fountain before and are now driving away corporations that have been there for a good while.
This is a list of corporations clearing the area, I have a hunch one is missing from this list:
Outland Emperius Command [OEC]
Evolution [EVOL]
Cornvexant Corp [CNX]
Cutting Edge Inc. [CEI]
Endless Corporation [TEC]
Dark Empire [DE]
Kusari Systems [KSR]
Merchants Alliance [MAC]
Prometheus Prime [PRIME]
Nietzchean Logistics [NIET]
Xanadu [Xan]
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THE SCOPE - Your Galaxy News Source
Raudka - regular columnist
Cornexant currently has no presence within the fountain region as we have been focusing our efforts in another direction at this time. As for the activities within the area we have yet to contact the involved parties or be contacted by them so until such time as that has happened we must refrain from commenting on what is going on there till we know more ourselves.
Thank you
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Davius Kell
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Posted - 2003.07.27 14:15:00 -
[76]
One of the Cornex directors has already been in touch with me, we are just waiting for a time when we are both online due to time difference.
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Deputy CEO Cutting Edge Inc
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Jarjar
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Posted - 2003.07.27 14:29:00 -
[77]
<< in the end the paisants prevailed:
see screenshots:
http://www.codeum.com/gods/ >>
LOL
Check the threats window of screenshot 2. |
Johrenn
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Posted - 2003.07.27 14:29:00 -
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Edited by: Johrenn on 27/07/2003 16:03:27
Regarding Raudka's list of corporations "clearing" the Fountain region - please note that Kusari Systems should not be on that list. As my colleague Tassadar mentioned earlier, we have made this area our home base for a long time and have always operated peacefully. We have no intention of joining this Fountain Alliance and "clearing" the region. In fact, we have also lost ships to these pirates while attempting to pass through the region.
Raudka : edit your list and remove Kusari Systems from it, and in the future, practice good journalism and qualify your information before publishing it.
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Nephlite
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Posted - 2003.07.27 15:03:00 -
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Edited by: Nephlite on 27/07/2003 15:05:06
Johrenn,
That list was not made by Tol, he was copying and pasting it to respond to it.
The list was infact made by:
"THE SCOPE - Your Galaxy News Source
Raudka - regular columnist"
I would like to thank Raudka for her reporting of this interesting set of events. Things always get muddy in war and I hope this doesn't deter her from doing your job as a journalist.
I think both sides of this war should give "real Journalist" save passage to observe and report this most interesting set of events.
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Johrenn
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Posted - 2003.07.27 16:04:00 -
[80]
Noted and corrected Nephlite. My apologies for the error.
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Davius Kell
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Posted - 2003.07.27 17:01:00 -
[81]
Edited by: Davius Kell on 27/07/2003 17:01:42
PM me once your on Neph, we have alot to talk about.
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Loan providers and nasty men with big pointy stick's |
Raudka
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Posted - 2003.07.27 17:29:00 -
[82]
I have amended my post.
The first list given was the list of corporations that the Fountain Alliance would allow to stay in Fountain, not of corporations partaking in the Fountain Alliance.
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Arathmon
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Posted - 2003.07.27 17:50:00 -
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"Btw the "Bad guys" in this are the guys who originally setteled fountain, youll find its Homeworld etc, ie the new corps who are using this as an excuse to get a larger peice of the pie ¼_¼"
How exactly trying to keep fountain open to everyone is grabbing a larger piece of the pie eludes me. Next time try to get the locals on your side before taking over, it would have certainly been a great deal easier.
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Davius Kell
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Posted - 2003.07.27 17:56:00 -
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We are the locals
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Deputy CEO Cutting Edge Inc
Loan providers and nasty men with big pointy stick's |
Arathmon
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Posted - 2003.07.27 18:01:00 -
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You were the locals.
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I used to be in the FA. I like cookies. Eve Radio is teh pwn. |
Mia Noir
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Posted - 2003.07.27 18:04:00 -
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Its good that for once people are willing to stand up for the rights of pilots to fly through space ithout having to look over their shoulders constantly and wondering who controls the region their in, well done Homeworld and co. Time for some Rage Against The Machine methinks
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"I am my father's daughter" *evil grin*
Noir Enterprises Site |
Kinjite
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Posted - 2003.07.27 18:13:00 -
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Edited by: Kinjite on 27/07/2003 18:14:46
 Quote:
I have amended my post.
The first list given was the list of corporations that the Fountain Alliance would allow to stay in Fountain, not of corporations partaking in the Fountain Alliance. ---Raudka
It's called journalistic integrity, the lack of it cause's great harm and little respect for the reporter I suggest you find some!
Chief Security Officer - Kusari Systems
"and Death shall have no dominion"
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Davius Kell
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Posted - 2003.07.27 18:27:00 -
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By the ways things are going it's going to be Homeworld tech vs the world.
Should be a interesting fight ¼_¼
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Jolo
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Posted - 2003.07.27 18:34:00 -
[89]
What about corps that have worked there since like week 1 and have offices there.
Are they not allowed in fountain anymore?
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Arathmon
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Posted - 2003.07.27 18:35:00 -
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Seems Shrike from Evolution is answering the FFC's questions right now. The main debate is whether or not Fountain should be closed down by Evol and co. along with the FFC's cooperation, or if it should be a free region. The main concerns are distribution of wealth: There are those who really don't care and others who wish for the good stuff to be spread as little as possible. And... a decision is soon to be made. Keep tuned in for more details.
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Raudka
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Posted - 2003.07.27 18:36:00 -
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It is unfortunate that the list provided to me and visible on a website did not state who took full part in the operation.
Kinjite of Kusari Systems hopefully understands that in a Fog of War and having been provided the SAFE LIST one has to draw conclusions. My apologies for erring in that case. Such is war and reporting from the middle of it is never going to be 100% accurate.
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Halo Jones
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Posted - 2003.07.27 18:54:00 -
[92]
and for such a pretty war correspondent, I am sure such trangressions would be forgiven
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Arathmon
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Posted - 2003.07.27 19:11:00 -
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There is now an official peace between the force of the FA and FFC, and currently there are talks being made and agreements are being hammered out between the two former enemies. the FFC and FA are going to be merging together into the FA, to secure the Fountain region. Some of the older locals who were not contacted about the FA or FFC should be shortly to discuss the terms with them. What this essentially means now is that the newer corps who want to set up shop in Fountain are likely going to have to think of going elsewhere.
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j0sephine
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Posted - 2003.07.27 19:19:00 -
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Edited by: j0sephine on 27/07/2003 19:20:50
"What this essentially means now is that the newer corps who want to set up shop in Fountain are likely going to have to think of going elsewhere."
... so, what happened to the idea of "trying to keep fountain open to everyone" which you were claiming as the goal mere two hours ago?.. :s
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Arathmon
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Posted - 2003.07.27 19:22:00 -
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Things change. What you need to understand is that I'm truly an irascible villain and when I said "keep fountain open to everyone" I left out the end part which was "in my corp". Things have yet to truly be set in stone, but I have an inkling people will still be allowed in. Don't take my word for it though.
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Shollos
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Posted - 2003.07.27 19:22:00 -
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how soon till we seen region vs region wars....stain vs fountain....
how boring;/
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Malakite
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Posted - 2003.07.27 19:27:00 -
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Edited by: Malakite on 27/07/2003 19:28:45
<sniff>
lol... lets all join hands and sing "cumba ya my lord cumba ya..."!!!
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j0sephine
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Posted - 2003.07.27 19:30:00 -
[98]
"What you need to understand is that I'm truly an irascible villain (..)"
Ahh 'tis makes sense; been wondering for a while about the reason behind imperial crest in the company poster you carry around, Sire... :s
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EvilT
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Posted - 2003.07.27 19:38:00 -
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Yeah so much for foundain being an open region. I actually though FA had something going there, too bad they gave up so easily.
so as of right now i believe its:
FA-FFC : 0
SA-RUS : 1
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Ends
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Posted - 2003.07.27 19:55:00 -
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Edited by: Ends on 27/07/2003 19:55:07
I wonder if there will ever be a force in the universe with a higher philosophy than the caveman mentality of "might makes right". <loses all respect for Arathmon>
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Arathmon
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Posted - 2003.07.27 20:08:00 -
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My goal of posting on these forums was to let the Eve community know what was happening in Fountain. If my personal actions go against some misconception you had of me, I'm sorry you were disillusioned. However, this does not change the fact that everything I have done up until this point has been for the good of myself and my corporation, not to be seen as some self-righteous martyr. I play this game for my own reasons, and I am unapologetic if they conflict with yours, so again, do not make me out to being something I am not.
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ProphetGuru
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Posted - 2003.07.27 20:08:00 -
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Might does not make right. What was at issue yesterday? A few tried to expunge the many. Discussions regarding an alliance in fountain have been ongoing by many members based there for some time. The main disagreement was over the misguided notion of pushing all current residents out. That is what was being fought over yesterday. The freedom of those IN fountain, to stay and prosper there, not an idealistic sense of "Freedom for all" This game is about resource control, anyone who thinks otherwise is deluding themselves. HWT does what is in the best interests of HWT and it's shareholders, just as any other corp does, or should. Yesterday it was in our best interest to fight to protect what we have worked for, would anyone do different? Today, it was in our interest to open conversations and reach an agreement that satisfied all parties, and made the entire region stronger, while protecting each member corps individualisim. Things are still being worked out, I'm sure you can expect an official statement regarding the Fountain region to be forthcoming.
Evolution..... Just when you thought you were winning.
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Darth Maul
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Posted - 2003.07.27 21:04:00 -
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Does this mean we have to give back the 100k Mega and 100k Zyd? Err.. wait.. wrong thread.. :p
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EvilT
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Posted - 2003.07.27 22:39:00 -
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well my mistake then. For once i thought a group of corps decided to act in a public interest, and not in their own. Guess i was wrong.
Anyway not that i care im on the other side of the galaxy anyways
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