You refuse to tolerate these players because they play differently from you. You insist in mocking, degrading, and ridiculing them. Day in and day out you create and support (as in you and your ilk) anti-carebear rants overwhelmingly drowing the one or two OP's created by new players that may have misunderstood the game mechanics. You're so blinded by hate you don't even see that you yourself are that whiner you ***** about. You blame carebears for pretty much everything. You yourself went as far as insisting these carebear players and their corps be banned from the game.

And the problem with you is that since you didn't reason yourself into this anti-carebear ideology you cannot be reasoned out of it.

Your loud antagonistic and hateful behavior doesn't help much either-áexist

Someone who chooses to play the game merely for social/roleplay reasons can operate in such a way that PVP is never encountered.

Would it shock you to learn that the entirety of time I have spent on EVE has been spent alone on PVE?

What risk is there, since you have already mitigated all the dangers? What punishment is there, since you view -10 flashy red as a status badge?

None of the game mechanics actually work as punishment or disincentive to gank

You didn't read the OP, did you?

Of course, this response is to the question in the title.

So you're talking about using the game as absolutely nothing other than as a chat program. You never undock; you never trade; you never use any ships; the only window you ever use is a couple of chat channels where you only talk in friendly terms with other players.

Because that's just the thing: the moment you do anything else than chat a bit, you are engaging in PvP due to the core design of the game GÇö you simply cannot avoid it

So at that point, I really have to ask: if that's the GǣgameplayGǥ you're after, why are you spending $15 a month and downloading double-digit gigabytes of worthless sound and visual assets, when what you're looking for is mIRC? It's less than 2MB and sets you back less than the $20 for the rest of your lifeGǪ

Would it shock you to learn that all that team has provided is PvP, just like everything else in EVE?

That's one example, yes. A simple example, admittedly, but nevertheless a valid example.

But I can avoid it.

PVP is incredibly boring in EVE. Why are you spending $15 a month on it/choosing to invest time in it?
See what I did there?

My entire presence in this thread has been to point out the cognitive dissonance that some people exhibit when they suggest that EVE may be whatever someone wants it to be, while at the same time attempting to make people who do not play a certain way quit the game.

Sorry, but I do not understand what you are asking in your question.

You forgot a big one.

With those restrictions you could still bump people.

I think you could still run missions as long as you popped or salvaged all your own wrecks before they could be taken or salvaged by anyone else, never spent the money, never used the standings or LP, and never sold the loot or spent the money.

What risk is there, since you have already mitigated all the dangers? What punishment is there, since you view -10 flashy red as a status badge?

None of the game mechanics actually work as punishment or disincentive to gank, which is obvious since your corporation's purpose for existence is to suicide gank. You've got fittings and procedures to follow for optimum gankage, including profit/loss analysis and forums full of pubbie tears copypasta.

The only reason there is any risk is because you set out to run suicide gank fleets as an income stream or to support your existing income stream.

If you weren't so focussed on profits, you'd be happily suicide ganking without any concern about what loot dropped.

"Why don't gankers and war deccers just go to low/null/wh space????"
Because players in low/null/sov/wh will shoot back. Hell, they're more likely to shoot first. Gankers want easy peasy, not malis from Pend Insurance.

You should see some of the stuff they send me in game.

Why don't gankers and war deccers just go to low/null/wh space????

Nah. That would deprive others of bounties, sec status, loot, salvage and other contestable assets.

GǪyou mean the thing that has a counter, and which people use to measure epeen boredom with? Nah.

When the targets who have far too much isk on their ships and no tank fitted go into low sec we will follow.

Instead of picking on people in highsec who can't fight back and don't want to PVP?

I mean, the mining barges, PVE fit ships, etc that get blown up in low/null/wh space aren't anywhere as near as weak and defenseless as the mining barges and PVE ships in highsec, and they totally wanted me to drop a sb gang on them and kill their ship and pod, so it's ok if I gank them in low/null/wh space, but in highsec? Wow thats just griefing basically!


In case you didn't get it, sarcasm. I'm saying this "go to low/null/wh to pvp" line is stupid.

Poor quality trolling.

Please stop.

Instead of picking on people in highsec who can't fight back and don't want to PVP?

I mean, the mining barges, PVE fit ships, etc that get blown up in low/null/wh space aren't anywhere as near as weak and defenseless as the mining barges and PVE ships in highsec, and they totally wanted me to drop a sb gang on them and kill their ship and pod, so it's ok if I gank them in low/null/wh space, but in highsec? Wow thats just griefing basically!


In case you didn't get it, sarcasm. I'm saying this "go to low/null/wh to pvp" line is stupid.

because people actually shoot back
can you imagine that when you try to gank someone in low sec and they actually shoot back where is CCP taking this game I demand that CCP nerf low sec so i can grief low sec and nullsec dwwellers aswell

Yet when folk do fit a tank, you then whinge that it costs too much to gank them.