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Darius III
Interstellar eXodus BricK sQuAD.
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Posted - 2011.10.18 11:53:00 -
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I have been accused of breaking the Non Disclosure Agreement that I signed when I was elected CSM. I will be addressing that accusation in this thread and hopefully shed some light on what really happened.
At no time did I ever leak anything to anyone. I have never shared NDA protected Skype logs, nor any information therein nor have I shared anything from the CSM official forums. In fact I do not answer many questions from corp members, friends or any media unless I am 110% certain that my answer is NDA safe.
The 'evidence' that people use claiming I broke the NDA shows my innocence. The alleged leak shows the name"mittani" in chatlogs. Notice the lowercase 'm'? If you have ever had a discussion with me in any chat-take note that I always capitalize peoples names, locations etc.
I understand that this does not "prove" that I did not leak anything, however it is stronger evidence than that which has been used to indict me.
I ask you to apply the same standard of evidence to my defense as used in my prosecution.
What really happened? I honestly do not know, but I have taken every step I can to disprove the allegations. I think that either:
A: There never was a leak and the whole thing was manufactured, or
B: I was set up to be made to look guilty by another member of the CSM. (Vile Rat is a lazy typist who doesn't bother to capitalize peoples names.....)
Why would someone do this, you may ask? Well it is public knowledge that I am Goons public enemy #1 ever since I trolled them regarding "Freeport Delve". http://www.evenews24.com/2011/09/23/meta-gaming-darius-iii-brix-deceives-goonswarm-leadership-into-buying-the-fall-of-delve-amidst-propaganda-war/
After which they dedicate two paragraphs to me in one of their internal releases: http://www.evenews24.com/2011/09/28/endie-goonswarm-federation-alliance-update-september-28th/
Now they have wardecced my Alliance and sent down fleets numbering 500+ pilots to take our space. Sounds like 'They Mad Bro' If I had leaked anything I would be a man and step up and admit my error. I knew I had pissed GS off but never expected them to stoop to such lowly tactics.
GM Note: Please do not lock this thread as it is relevant and there are @100 posts in various Eve-O forums claiming I breached the NDA. As long as those posts are allowed to stand-in the interests of fair play-my rebuttal also should stand.
To the players of Eve: I apologize for being enough of a douche that people would actually believe that I would do something like this and thus, making someone think that they could frame me in such a manner. D3 If Women aren't supposed to do the cooking, why are their bodies full of milk and eggs? |

Seyveaux Cheval
Eternity INC. Goonswarm Federation
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Posted - 2011.10.18 11:54:00 -
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yeah u mad |

Darius III
Interstellar eXodus BricK sQuAD.
226
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Posted - 2011.10.18 11:57:00 -
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Seyveaux Cheval wrote:yeah u mad Indeed I am mad. This is an insult to me, to the CSM and the players who voted us in.
Also: InB4 300 Goonies/Testies get ordered to post here. D3 If Women aren't supposed to do the cooking, why are their bodies full of milk and eggs? |

Ammzi
Imperial Guardians Blazing Angels Alliance
62
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Posted - 2011.10.18 11:58:00 -
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*must resist urge ... to .... troll*
*points at Darius III*
HA HA! quote CCP Spitfire
"Hello Im Blue,"
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Seyveaux Cheval
Eternity INC. Goonswarm Federation
3
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Posted - 2011.10.18 11:58:00 -
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Not that I particularly care, but linking the most reputable and non-politcally affiliated news site doesn't help your case too much. |

Jigoku Tomi
Time Sync
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Posted - 2011.10.18 12:01:00 -
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Your case is a lower case "m"?
Should have kept silent methinks, chat logs are never evidence baby. |

Darius III
Interstellar eXodus BricK sQuAD.
227
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Posted - 2011.10.18 12:01:00 -
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Seyveaux Cheval wrote:Not that I particularly care, but linking the most reputable and non-politcally affiliated news site doesn't help your case too much. Well, it links a GoonSwarm internal memo, as such it does lack a certain amount of credibility....
Aslo, as a gesture of goodwill, I have doubled the amount of likes you have. D3 If Women aren't supposed to do the cooking, why are their bodies full of milk and eggs? |

Apollo Gabriel
Mercatoris Etherium Cartel
60
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Posted - 2011.10.18 12:03:00 -
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OP,
Thanks for addressing this head on. Also note, as long as people assume goons are going to abide by some laws of civilization, they will continue to scam everyone. I understand CCP didn't have the man power to police eve early on, but I can't imagine the level of debauchery known to goons was ever intended. I believe that listening to a goon about tying your shoes would make you dumber, so anything more complicated falls into this category as well. Vomit given form, aka goons are a waste of time.
AG |

Kehro Urgus
Aliastra Gallente Federation
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Posted - 2011.10.18 12:03:00 -
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I can get you into goons just send 500m isk  |

Solstice Project
Cult of Personality
67
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Posted - 2011.10.18 12:06:00 -
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Wow, so much bla.
You're an *******, like the rest of them. |

Darius III
Interstellar eXodus BricK sQuAD.
227
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Posted - 2011.10.18 12:06:00 -
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Jigoku Tomi wrote:Your case is a lower case "m"?
Should have kept silent methinks, chat logs are never evidence baby.
I am aware of the weakness of "The lowercase m defense", however the low evidentiary standard of bogus chatlogs has been surpassed by check-able facts. Namely that I always capitalize proper nouns.
Weak? Yes. Stronger than "timezone"? Yes If Women aren't supposed to do the cooking, why are their bodies full of milk and eggs? |

non judgement
Without Fear Flying Burning Ships Alliance
75
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Posted - 2011.10.18 12:10:00 -
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If there really was a breach of NDA, I would have thought that CCP should have reacted by now. Since you still seem to have the white CSM tab on your name, I suggest that people should take notice of that, rather than believing anything else. I might be wrong, because I don't know how long these things take to get resolved. Shouldn't this be mostly handled by CCP offically and not like this on these forums. Are you looking for a reply, by someone at CCP? |

Ratnose Banker
Pink Sockers
5
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Posted - 2011.10.18 12:11:00 -
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It must be true because mittani said so!!!
*swallows another pint of mitten's warm ***** |

Meridith Akesia
Stimulus Rote Kapelle
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Posted - 2011.10.18 12:12:00 -
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lol |

Apollo Gabriel
Mercatoris Etherium Cartel
60
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Posted - 2011.10.18 12:12:00 -
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In the lead up to Iraq, the US based part of their case on the British. The British said they got the intel on the condition they'd keep the source secret. I'll always believe the US gave it to them. Goons smearing someone? Absolutely, they don't serve eve, they serve goons. |

Renan Ruivo
Hipernova Vera Cruz Alliance
177
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Posted - 2011.10.18 12:14:00 -
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Why the hell would you wish to wash dirty CSM clothes in public? I get that you being acused of breaching the NDA is something that should be discussed by you in public since those same allegations were already made public by other parties. But accusing someone of the CSM of setting you up is unprofessional at best. I really think you should re-consider and talk about that particular theory in private with your other council colleagues. Sometimes the only difference between a budding genius and a blooming idiot is where they chose to take a stand. |

Alice Saki
Ducklings
25
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Posted - 2011.10.18 12:17:00 -
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/Me Supports Darius My Null Roams.... Badger MKII :D They all-áHate my Stabby Badger... xD |

Darius III
Interstellar eXodus BricK sQuAD.
229
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Posted - 2011.10.18 12:17:00 -
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non judgement wrote:If there really was a breach of NDA, I would have thought that CCP should have reacted by now. Since you still seem to have the white CSM tab on your name, I suggest that people should take notice of that, rather than believing anything else. I might be wrong, because I don't know how long these things take to get resolved. Also, shouldn't this be mostly handled by CCP offically and not like this on these forums. Or are you looking for a reply, by someone at CCP, backing up your claims?
No, I do not expect a CCP response. I was reading the post about removing Mittani from CSM (lol) and saw quite a few references to this allegation. Those were not removed so I felt the time was overdue for me to personally and publicly refute the charges and reassure my constituents that I take my office seriously.
If Women aren't supposed to do the cooking, why are their bodies full of milk and eggs? |

mydingaling
Brutor Tribe Minmatar Republic
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Posted - 2011.10.18 12:17:00 -
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So you are saying that vile rat or the mittani took the time to make fake chat logs. Because straight up anyone that has any dealings with them in any depth either good or bad knows that is simply not their style. Its far beneath them, very amateur and not something they would pull. Reading that as your defence pretty much tells me that yes they are your logs. I could not care less tbh but just had to point at you and say hahaha you are lying.
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Skunk Gracklaw
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
141
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Posted - 2011.10.18 12:19:00 -
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Darius III wrote: Now they have wardecced my Alliance and sent down fleets numbering 500+ pilots to take our space. Sounds like 'They Mad Bro'  Confirming that is the entire reason for our current Delve operations.
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T'amber Anomandari Demaleon
Republic Military School Minmatar Republic
20
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Posted - 2011.10.18 12:20:00 -
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no one cares what the alternates do, trust me.

CSM 4 Alt2, CSM5 Alt1 / Rage Quit, CSM6 Fail Candidate Hasbeen Ragequitting Creator of New Edens Largest Non-Profit Events
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I Love Boobies
All Hail Boobies
9
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Posted - 2011.10.18 12:24:00 -
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Who would have thought... corrupt politicians. What is this world coming to? Note: This comment wasn't directed @ anyone in particular, was made on the basis of the whole situation.  ( o Y o ) ( o Y o ) ( o Y o ) ( o Y o ) ( o Y o ) ( o Y o ) ( o Y o ) ( o Y o ) ( o Y o ) ( o Y o ) ( o Y o ) ( o Y o )
The world would be a better place if boobies ran the world instead of boobs. |

Darius III
Interstellar eXodus BricK sQuAD.
229
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Posted - 2011.10.18 12:25:00 -
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T'amber Anomandari Demaleon wrote:no one cares what the alternates do, trust me. 
I was kind of wondering if I am an alt? Since I was a delegate at the Monoclegate summit, am I no longer an alt?
PS: I still hav ethe ships you gave me in Jita when you quit-hit me up if you need them back D3
If Women aren't supposed to do the cooking, why are their bodies full of milk and eggs? |

Thorn Galen
Bene Gesserit ChapterHouse Sanctuary Pact
92
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Posted - 2011.10.18 12:26:00 -
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@Darius III
Quite frankly, I see a lot of rationalising on your behalf for an event which took place a few weeks ago. I have to ask myself why you did not come out fighting so strongly then, not now ? The answer is that you slipped-up and are now attempting damage control.
Your issues with other CSM members is nothing short of personal - very personal.
The honourable thing for you to do will be to resign your CSM post as a matter of maintaining some dignity. Your rationale and links to chatlogs etc is flawed to the extent that I feel embarrased on your behalf, no really, I do. Simply put - you should never have leaked the information, you created your own dilemma. You have two alternatives now as far as I can see, one is to stay put and take the flak and hope to survive it, the other is for you to step down from the CSM.
You are wagging the dog and it's just making your story that much less believable. I was brought up to believe that where there's smoke, there's fire. That precept has never failed me.
I neither dislike or like you, but as you are a CSM, you have failed in your duties towards me as a player in particular and to the rest of the Eve community as a whole. Your trust is damaged and will not be easily regained by the majority of clear-thinking players. There is simply too much evidence against you - and not coming from the other CSM members either.
You are probably a decent enough player and person, but are undeserving of a position on the CSM. Yes, you were voted in democratically, but you broke the agreements, you broke the trust.
Sure, I will be hated and spammed and flamed for this, but that's fine by me. Anyone not being able to handle flaming on forums shouldn't bother posting.
Fly safe.
Yours Sincerely, Thorn Galen. The universe is an ancient desert, a vast wasteland with only occasional habitable planets as oases. We Fremen, comfortable with deserts, shall now venture into another. - STILGAR, From the Sietch to the Stars. |

Partsking
Ardent Spirits BricK sQuAD.
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Posted - 2011.10.18 12:28:00 -
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mydingaling wrote:So you are saying that vile rat or the mittani took the time to make fake chat logs. Because straight up anyone that has any dealings with them in any depth either good or bad knows that is simply not their style. Its far beneath them, very amateur and not something they would pull.
lmfao. Son, there is nothing "far beneath" or "too amateur" for a goon.
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Killer Gandry
Oblivion's Regiment
3
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Posted - 2011.10.18 12:29:00 -
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Ow I wouldn't be surprised if this is just one of the many Goon tricks to manipulate.
But I also wouldn't be surprised if this was a trick of your's to manipulate.
Like it's always said to new arrivals to the game but also to those who got ripped off or betrayed later on.
Do NOT trust anyone in EVE.
That I would love to see us get rid of Goons is no secret. Since their arrival here in EVE they just made the game a lot worse. Scamming was already in game but with their arrival it exploded into the big plague it has become. Trolling was present, but they made a mockery of everything and troll where ever they can.
I myself compare Goons with a cancer. There is no accepting it's there, you cut it out completely or you die from it.
People who think Goons are cool and think they are liked by Goons have absolutley no idea that the Goons don't care about them at all. Goons only care about Goons, and most of them only about a rare few Goons and give a crap about the rest. Any action from a Goon has the sole purpose to further the Goons cause. To ruin the game for everyone who isn't a Goon.
Sad part is that CCP accepts that kind of playstyle so it's up to the playerbase to get rid of them. Sadder part is that the general playerbase is too lazy or disorganised to get rid f them.
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Reppyk
The Black Shell
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Posted - 2011.10.18 12:30:00 -
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Why did you wait so long to post this ? |

Ciar Meara
Virtus Vindice
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Posted - 2011.10.18 12:35:00 -
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I have not seen these chatlogs but chatlogs prove nothing since everybody can fake something like that to descredit anyone.
I do find it interesting that squarely point your finger at Vile Rat in regards to any possible wrongdoings. Vile Rat has shown during the whole debate around Golden Scorpions right before the whole NeX Golden Ammo Rage that he doesn't really know of/cares about/comprehend some aspects of EVE or his job in the CSM, especially after he flip-flopped his way through the discussion, so I am not a big fan of him.
However if you accuse another CSM of this directly you'd better be able to back that up.
- [img]http://go-dl1.eve-files.com/media/corp/janus/ceosig.jpg[/img] [yellow]English only please. Zymurgist[/yellow] |

Darius III
Interstellar eXodus BricK sQuAD.
232
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Posted - 2011.10.18 12:41:00 -
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Reppyk wrote:Why did you wait so long to post this ?
I was approached by a CSM member when I originally went to post this, but was asked to wait until Himmar's blog was digested. I waited 3 days and really didn't see anything about it anywhere, so I thought I would let sleeping dogs lay.
Yesterday I saw the allegation many times in a threadnaught about removing Mittani and immediately regretted my decision not to post last week. I did make several posts on K.com and Failheap and I realize that that was not enough.
I realize that there are people who really think that I would break my word, that I am lying etc. and I could have done more to prevent this. My poor judgement has exacerbated the situation as my initial response was not to even recognize the outlandish and unfounded allegations. I assumed that it was some elaborate troll or an anomalous situation that would resolve itself without my involvement. I was grossly inaccurate in that regard. Since I had done nothing wrong-I assumed there would be no repercussions.
If Women aren't supposed to do the cooking, why are their bodies full of milk and eggs? |

Cyaxares II
The Scope Gallente Federation
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Posted - 2011.10.18 12:47:00 -
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you sir, are awesome.
Quote:n++[ 2011.09.23 00:17:48 ] Darius III > and first line is anagram never going to give you up n++[ 2011.09.23 00:17:50 ] riverini > never going to give up? n++[ 2011.09.23 00:18:03 ] riverini > GÇ£Veggie Voyeur Goon InputGÇ¥ n++[ 2011.09.23 00:18:06 ] Darius III > yes yes and look at line 11 never going to let you down n++[ 2011.09.23 00:18:11 ] Darius III > lol yeah n++[ 2011.09.23 00:18:55 ] riverini > how do u know goons swallow it? n++[ 2011.09.23 00:19:43 ] Darius III > They mailed their people yesterday n++[ 2011.09.23 00:19:51 ] riverini > can u send me that n++[ 2011.09.23 00:19:51 ] riverini > haha n++[ 2011.09.23 00:19:56 ] Darius III > I brokered the deal with mittani and vile rat and mr vee n++[ 2011.09.23 00:20:12 ] Darius III > I cant send it n++[ 2011.09.23 00:20:33 ] riverini > http://www.evenews24.com/2011/09/22/raw-intel-brick-squad-to-open-access-to-all-their-stations-in-delve-agrees-to-run-the-delve-new-thunder-dome-no-word-yet-on-rawr-or-ev0ke/n++[ 2011.09.23 00:20:34 ] riverini > THIS? n++[ 2011.09.23 00:20:35 ] Darius III > I dont have but I heard and saw snippets n++[ 2011.09.23 00:21:24 ] Darius III > lol yeah n++[ 2011.09.23 00:21:26 ] Darius III > nice
Quote:n++[ 2011.09.23 00:18:55 ] riverini > how do u know goons swallow it? n++[ 2011.09.23 00:19:43 ] Darius III > They mailed their people yesterday n++[ 2011.09.23 00:19:51 ] riverini > can u send me that n++[ 2011.09.23 00:19:51 ] riverini > haha n++[ 2011.09.23 00:19:56 ] Darius III > I brokered the deal with mittani and vile rat and mr vee n++[ 2011.09.23 00:20:12 ] Darius III > I cant send it
Quote:n++[ 2011.09.23 00:19:56 ] Darius III > I brokered the deal with mittani and vile rat and mr vee
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