The thing is Digi is one of perception, You say that many Goons care about the game and you may be right about that, the problem is with how the Goons present themselves to us "pubbies".

My perception of the Goons and many players I have talked to (not many by any stretch of the imagination) perceive the Goons to be a right bunch of knobs. Now more than likely this is wrong but thats what the general perception of the Goons is in my circle of EVE friends.

You guys might be out to save the EVE universe and someday we might even thank you for doing such a great job of it but at the moment like many posts on here have said..."Goons are posting Goons are lying" etc etc

From my own personal view you have a cadre of talented people surrounded by the biggest bunch of strange-uns going. You know what, it's great you lot stick up for yourselves but to what advantage?? Great you are your own masters withing your circles but to what end? alot of people just think "Goon" and automatically have already judged someone without even talking to them.

It's a problem of trust,perception and little bit of the boy who cried wolf and until that's addressed people are always going to think the worst. General things like calling people pubbies, it shows a kind of elitism and general looking down on the rest of us.
Now if that was Albert Einstein doing it I'd probably have to hold my hands up and say fair enough but when it's some scrout who got through on a by through SA forums and can just about read the "you've posted something, hopefully it's good" message
it tends to annoy people.

Your no better no worse than anyone else but the perception of who you are and what you stand for is what counts either negatively or positively.

Anybody else find it ironic that D3's alliance is at war with those of the people accusing him of breaking the NDA?

And anybody else is either saying 'not enough evidence' or 'whatever'.

you mean riverini, the person in his alliance he leaked it to and who admitted the leak?

that person?

No, you and the rest of the Goon/TEST minions.

ahh so when riverini, a member of Darius III's alliance, and known for his hatred of goons, admits darius III did it you somehow do not notice this and think it's all just a bunch of goons accusing him

I noticed it, but I don't see him on the witch-hunt.

I noticed it, but I don't see him on the witch-hunt.

If there really was a breach of NDA, I would have thought that CCP should have reacted by now. Since you still seem to have the white CSM tab on your name, I suggest that people should take notice of that, rather than believing anything else. I might be wrong, because I don't know how long these things take to get resolved. Shouldn't this be mostly handled by CCP offically and not like this on these forums. Are you looking for a reply, by someone at CCP?

I think I can speak for the vast majority of the EVE community when I say, no one cares.

ahh so when riverini, a member of Darius III's alliance, and known for his hatred of goons, admits darius III did it you somehow do not notice this and think it's all just a bunch of goons accusing him

I noticed it, but I don't see him on the witch-hunt.

The integrity of the CSM chairman is not on trial here.

I find the secret to gathering the most rep is to post in one sentence or less.

The players need the CSM like a fish needs a bycycle.

The players need the CSM like a fish needs a bycycle.

if only you could spell bicycle