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DelBoy Trades
Trotter Independent Traders.
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Posted - 2013.04.27 20:29:00 -
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Khamelean wrote:DelBoy Trades wrote:Khamelean wrote:Not anymore, dust is already making money. Fan feast is for ccp to celebrate its games. That includes dust. In a couple of years it will include world of darkness as well.
I thought the presentations were pretty evenly split between eve and dust. Of course if you had of gone then you could have attended other the presentations that weren't part of the live stream. But, we don't wont to think to much do we, we might hurt ourselves. Strange how it's called EVE fanfest, not CCP fanfest, genius... http://fanfest.eveonline.com/en/default Dust is part of eve, genius...
I'll requote you again as you seem to be having trouble remembering what had very recently dribbled from your typing fingers.
Quote:Fan feast is for ccp to celebrate its games. That includes dust. In a couple of years it will include world of darkness as well WoD in EVE too? Obligatory "genius..." Damn nature, you scary! |

Khamelean
Federal Defense Union Gallente Federation
84
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Posted - 2013.04.27 20:33:00 -
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DelBoy Trades wrote:Khamelean wrote:DelBoy Trades wrote:Khamelean wrote:Not anymore, dust is already making money. Fan feast is for ccp to celebrate its games. That includes dust. In a couple of years it will include world of darkness as well.
I thought the presentations were pretty evenly split between eve and dust. Of course if you had of gone then you could have attended other the presentations that weren't part of the live stream. But, we don't wont to think to much do we, we might hurt ourselves. Strange how it's called EVE fanfest, not CCP fanfest, genius... http://fanfest.eveonline.com/en/default Dust is part of eve, genius... I'll requote you again as you seem to be having trouble remembering what had very recently dribbled from your typing fingers. Quote:Fan feast is for ccp to celebrate its games. That includes dust. In a couple of years it will include world of darkness as well WoD in EVE too? Obligatory "genius..."
No, but do you have any evidence to support that it will be called eve fanfest then? Once they have significant properties beyond eve they may well change the name. No need for that yet.
Your premise was that this fanfest was supposed to be about eve, it was. Eve online and dust 514. That's eve. |

Velicitia
Nex Exercitus
1433
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Posted - 2013.04.27 20:33:00 -
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Tippia wrote:Strange how the last keynote GÇö the one that's apparently getting people up in arms GÇö is called GÇ£CCP PresentsGÇ¥ and not GÇ£EVE Online KeynoteGÇ¥. It has always been a split between everything they're doing, with a large focus on CCP itself and the community.
people are whining because they can.
fanfest was pretty badass. I was a bit thrown by the schedule (EVE stuff on Thu, with a DUST keynote; DUST stuff on Fri, with an EVE Keynote) ... but that's the extent of my annoyance with the situation.
Sure, there were some other "missed" features, but they can only do so much with the stream, and there was a lot more being presented than what was getting streamed. One of the bitter points of a good bittervet is the realisation that all those SP don't really do much, and that the newbie is having much more fun with what little he has. - Tippia Malcanis for CSM8 |

Concurssi Mellenar
The Scope Gallente Federation
33
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Posted - 2013.04.27 20:37:00 -
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ITT people want the EVE universe to stagnate and decay instead of expanding and growing. He who controls the veld, controls the universe. |

ITTigerClawIK
Galactic Rangers R O G U E
245
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Posted - 2013.04.27 20:37:00 -
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fanfest was awesome, its called EVE fanfest because its about everything to do with the EVE universe and Dust is now a part of that and people need to get used to that fact, soon there is going to be alot more things that dust is going to effect in the Space part of EVE besides there was plenty of dam nice EVE space related things shown there and i will be looking foward to see what comes out in the next decade. |

Guru Man
Progressive State State Section 9
0
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Posted - 2013.04.27 20:47:00 -
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I just took a shower and head back for the Party at the top of the world. First impressions from Reykjavik: bit disappointing about the content presented (the show was also a bit week)
A 10 year anniversary would have been better with some really new stuff (some people here were worked out about opening jove space...a place to Odyssey in ...that did not happened), but the biggest thing we got: was probe formations, star-gate effects, bigger squares on the scanner and vague innuendos that there is going to be more in the future (I am not talking about the CCP presents but whole Fanfest),.
The Virtual glasses were nice but that again is not really EVE.
However if you ask every single geek coming for fanfest they will all try to come back next year. Beer and like-minded people to shear internet spaceships discussions with , make this place great during these days and those are also the reasons I am here for the 3th time. The game goes on with or without Fanfest. |

Dave Stark
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Posted - 2013.04.27 20:50:00 -
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Gillia Winddancer wrote:Dave Stark wrote:i'll be honest, i missed half of the eve.
i missed half the eve stuff because about 3 mins before they were talking about dust and i stopped paying attention. Why aren't you whining about WoD? It's also precious time and resources taken from your beloved EVE Online.
i didn't eve notice any wod news. |

Merkal Aubauch
V0LTA Verge of Collapse
25
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Posted - 2013.04.27 20:54:00 -
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Hope they gonna kickout with fixing the real issues of the game mechanics and stop DUSTing to the **** |

Rebecha Pucontis
Tribal Liberation Force Minmatar Republic
229
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Posted - 2013.04.27 21:03:00 -
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Fanfest was good. You whingers have just got to realise that Dust and Eve are now the same game. I admit I got bored listening to the Dust stuff at first, but I stuck with it and it was alright, and then when they started talking about the implementation of Dust and Eve then it was looking really good.
Sounds like the company has got its house in order and things are progressing really nicely now so am really looking forward to the focused expansions they were talking about. Their doing a great job with oddysey and the previous expansions, tonnes of nice new stuff for us to play with in June, and a really good achievable vision for the future.
Watching the Eve chat on the live stream made me feel ashamed to be associated with most of those idiots to be honest and I hope that is just a vocal minority of the community as I'm sure most of us are better than that. Constantly yelling out people to get off the stage and criticising and abusing everyone about their looks. Just had to close it as it was like reading the drivel from some drunken street hobo angry at everything in the world. Seriously people need to stop acting like self entitled brats. |

Gnoshia
Section 8. Fatal Ascension
27
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Posted - 2013.04.27 21:04:00 -
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Fanfest was boring, bland and slow paced.
Odyssey is probably the emptiest expansion in EVE history.
Extremely disappointed. |
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Concurssi Mellenar
The Scope Gallente Federation
35
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Posted - 2013.04.27 21:09:00 -
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All of you complaining, can I have your stuff as you stick your hands into your pockets and kick a can down the street in teenage angst only to leave EVE in stubborn protest? He who controls the veld, controls the universe. |

Gnoshia
Section 8. Fatal Ascension
27
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Posted - 2013.04.27 21:13:00 -
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iskflakes wrote:If you didn't realize they are funding DUST with EVE subscriber money, which is why CCP has developed the last 3 years of EVE expansions with half the normal number of developers.
Which is messed up. I pay the monthly fee for new content for the game that I'm playing. Not new content for a totally different game that I'll never play. |

Tippia
Sunshine and Lollipops
13880
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Posted - 2013.04.27 21:14:00 -
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Gnoshia wrote:Odyssey is probably the emptiest expansion in EVE history. EeeehhhGǪ No. Short of releasing a patch that does literally nothing, that prize will always go to Quantum Rise GÇö the one-feature expansion. GÇ£If you're not willing to fight for what you have in GëívGëí you don't deserve it, and you will lose it.GÇ¥
Get a good start: newbie skill plan.-á |

Gnoshia
Section 8. Fatal Ascension
27
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Posted - 2013.04.27 21:14:00 -
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Concurssi Mellenar wrote:All of you complaining, can I have your stuff as you stick your hands into your pockets and kick a can down the street in teenage angst only to leave EVE in stubborn protest?
No. I'll delete it just to spite you. |

Concurssi Mellenar
The Scope Gallente Federation
35
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Posted - 2013.04.27 21:15:00 -
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Gnoshia wrote:Concurssi Mellenar wrote:All of you complaining, can I have your stuff as you stick your hands into your pockets and kick a can down the street in teenage angst only to leave EVE in stubborn protest? No. I'll delete it just to spite you. Hmph. Now that's just mean :( He who controls the veld, controls the universe. |

Gnoshia
Section 8. Fatal Ascension
27
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Posted - 2013.04.27 21:17:00 -
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Tippia wrote:Gnoshia wrote:Odyssey is probably the emptiest expansion in EVE history. EeeehhhGǪ No. Short of releasing a patch that does literally nothing, that prize will always go to Quantum Rise GÇö the one-feature expansion.
I suppose it's up to personal opinion.
This expansion was over 70% rebalancing and fixing and the rest was very meh content. I'd take Incarna over this garbage any day. |

Felicity Love
STARKRAFT Joint Venture Conglomerate
533
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Posted - 2013.04.27 21:18:00 -
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Loved it.... because I'm one of those players that plans at least a year ahead and likes to gamble on change.
And that freaking GNOSIS is an awesome ship ! ! ! ! 
Proud Beta Tester for "Bumping Uglies for Dummies" |

Rebecha Pucontis
Tribal Liberation Force Minmatar Republic
229
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Posted - 2013.04.27 21:18:00 -
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Tippia wrote:Gnoshia wrote:Odyssey is probably the emptiest expansion in EVE history. EeeehhhGǪ No. Short of releasing a patch that does literally nothing, that prize will always go to Quantum Rise GÇö the one-feature expansion.
The idea that Odyssey is an empty is just ridiculous. Massive ship rebalance changes, loads of new artwork and graphical effects, completely overhauled scanning and exploration system, jump gate effects when warping, and lets not even mention one of the biggest resource distribution shake ups which will have massive consequences for everyone. That is just some of it, seriously did you people even watch the fanfest streams at all. Please just go away back to your mums basement, the amount of petulant self entitled children complaining in this thread is astounding. |

Concurssi Mellenar
The Scope Gallente Federation
36
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Posted - 2013.04.27 21:22:00 -
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Rebecha Pucontis wrote:Tippia wrote:Gnoshia wrote:Odyssey is probably the emptiest expansion in EVE history. EeeehhhGǪ No. Short of releasing a patch that does literally nothing, that prize will always go to Quantum Rise GÇö the one-feature expansion. The idea that Odyssey is an empty is just ridiculous. Massive ship rebalance changes, loads of new artwork and graphical effects, completely overhauled scanning and exploration system, jump gate effects when warping, and lets not even mention on of the biggest resource distribution shake ups which will have massive consequences for everyone. That is just some of it, seriously did you people even watch the fanfest streams at all. Please just go away back to your mums basement, the amount of petulant self entitled children complaining in this thread is astounding. Hey come on now, we're three pages into this thread already. Let's not start bringing up verifiable facts and reason into the discussion when we've already got a good whining thread going on here.
BTW, you guys want some cheese with that whine? He who controls the veld, controls the universe. |

Gnoshia
Section 8. Fatal Ascension
27
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Posted - 2013.04.27 21:28:00 -
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Rebecha Pucontis wrote:Tippia wrote:Gnoshia wrote:Odyssey is probably the emptiest expansion in EVE history. EeeehhhGǪ No. Short of releasing a patch that does literally nothing, that prize will always go to Quantum Rise GÇö the one-feature expansion. The idea that Odyssey is an empty is just ridiculous. Massive ship rebalance changes, loads of new artwork and graphical effects, completely overhauled scanning and exploration system, jump gate effects when warping, and lets not even mention one of the biggest resource distribution shake ups which will have massive consequences for everyone. That is just some of it, seriously did you people even watch the fanfest streams at all. Please just go away back to your mums basement, the amount of petulant self entitled children complaining in this thread is astounding.
No. The problem is CCP could add another speck to the back ground star field and you would describe that as hugely relevant content worthy of praise and respect. lol
I'm sorry but this was not an expansion. This was a one giant rebalance of existing content. 99.9% of other games out there, MMO or otherwise, release mini-patches every other month addressing balance issues with their games. While saving their ACTUAL expansions to release ACTUAL content.
Not the case for CCP. They just fix old stuff, stamp it with the "New Content" seal, and call it an expansion and then you got foaming at the mouth fan boys like yourself that'll defend them to the very end for it.
Excuse me while I barf.
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Mr. Orange
Band of Freelancers
88
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Posted - 2013.04.27 21:33:00 -
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I'll give a **** when and if Dust actually comes to the PC! Until that time, you can kindly **** off!!
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Tippia
Sunshine and Lollipops
13883
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Posted - 2013.04.27 21:36:00 -
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Gnoshia wrote:This expansion was over 70% rebalancing and fixing and the rest was very meh content. I'd take Incarna over this garbage any day. GǪand yet, this expansion offers over 70% more content than the garbage in Incarna.
Industry shake-up, exploration revamp, a ton of ship being effectively added to the game (yes, they existed before GÇö now they actually become worth-while). Wait, 70% more is about four zeros too few.
Quote:I'm sorry but this was not an expansion. This was a one giant rebalance of existing content. 99.9% of other games out there, MMO or otherwise, release mini-patches every other month addressing balance issues with their games. While saving their ACTUAL expansions to release ACTUAL content. That's because other games have to give their players more stuff to consume GÇö their content is done by the devs, and consumed by the players. EVE gives the players tools, and then they create their own content. This patch offers a fuckton of content through the tools we are being given. GÇ£If you're not willing to fight for what you have in GëívGëí you don't deserve it, and you will lose it.GÇ¥
Get a good start: newbie skill plan.-á |

Florian Kuehne
Tech3 Company
6
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Posted - 2013.04.27 21:36:00 -
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This Fanfest was mostly Dust 514 and Marketing. They wanted the connection between Eve and Dust but i dont see it. Dust is still beta or so and the planets of Dust are only temporarily. The market, that you can sell the items for dust produced in eve is just a joke. I thought that is somehow tha base of these connection but its not active. Ill care Dust if its on pc.
I bought the HD-Stream, the Stream wasnt really HD, max 720p crap. The Schedule wasnt that good. Show started always later and/or with tech issues. I dont want to speak about lags too. Some points of the schedule are missing till now. They were much other presentations which werent streamed, sad. The quality of the second stream was much worst than the original one.
The features of the upcoming expansion are not that great in my eyes. Sure, fixes and improvements are good but please dont sell these things over and over as new stuff.
I have a bunch of missile issues as example but no one cares about these issues, over 2 months now. Very sad. |

Gillia Winddancer
Brave Newbies Inc.
337
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Posted - 2013.04.27 21:41:00 -
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Gnoshia wrote:Rebecha Pucontis wrote:Tippia wrote:Gnoshia wrote:Odyssey is probably the emptiest expansion in EVE history. EeeehhhGǪ No. Short of releasing a patch that does literally nothing, that prize will always go to Quantum Rise GÇö the one-feature expansion. The idea that Odyssey is an empty is just ridiculous. Massive ship rebalance changes, loads of new artwork and graphical effects, completely overhauled scanning and exploration system, jump gate effects when warping, and lets not even mention one of the biggest resource distribution shake ups which will have massive consequences for everyone. That is just some of it, seriously did you people even watch the fanfest streams at all. Please just go away back to your mums basement, the amount of petulant self entitled children complaining in this thread is astounding. No. The problem is CCP could add another speck to the back ground star field and you would describe that as hugely relevant content worthy of praise and respect. lol I'm sorry but this was not an expansion. This was a one giant rebalance of existing content. 99.9% of other games out there, MMO or otherwise, release mini-patches every other month addressing balance issues with their games. While saving their ACTUAL expansions to release ACTUAL content. Not the case for CCP. They just fix old stuff, stamp it with the "New Content" seal, and call it an expansion and then you got foaming at the mouth fan boys like yourself that'll defend them to the very end for it. Excuse me while I barf.
Don't even understand why you're still playing EVE at all to be honest. Maybe in your mind balancing and reworking/updating is magically done by fairies but for those that are firmly grasping reality know that these things can take an equal amount of work as creating any new content. And EVE being what it is will always be in need of reworking and constantly upgrading and for each iteration it will become a more and more complex and daunting task. Simply cause the game keeps growing and growing.
But hey, go barf or whatever. As far as I am concerned EVE and the community do very well with the likes of you. |

Altimo
Homicidal Teddy Bears
18
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Posted - 2013.04.27 21:43:00 -
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Gnoshia wrote:Rebecha Pucontis wrote:Tippia wrote:Gnoshia wrote:Odyssey is probably the emptiest expansion in EVE history. EeeehhhGǪ No. Short of releasing a patch that does literally nothing, that prize will always go to Quantum Rise GÇö the one-feature expansion. The idea that Odyssey is an empty is just ridiculous. Massive ship rebalance changes, loads of new artwork and graphical effects, completely overhauled scanning and exploration system, jump gate effects when warping, and lets not even mention one of the biggest resource distribution shake ups which will have massive consequences for everyone. That is just some of it, seriously did you people even watch the fanfest streams at all. Please just go away back to your mums basement, the amount of petulant self entitled children complaining in this thread is astounding. No. The problem is CCP could add another speck to the back ground star field and you would describe that as hugely relevant content worthy of praise and respect. lol I'm sorry but this was not an expansion. This was a one giant rebalance of existing content. 99.9% of other games out there, MMO or otherwise, release mini-patches every other month addressing balance issues with their games. While saving their ACTUAL expansions to release ACTUAL content. Not the case for CCP. They just fix old stuff, stamp it with the "New Content" seal, and call it an expansion and then you got foaming at the mouth fan boys like yourself that'll defend them to the very end for it. Excuse me while I barf.
You do realize that EVE has been in need of an overhaul for the past 5 years right? Incase you haven't noticed, they've been doing the overhaul on the game since crucible, future proofing the game so they can add "new content" To be honest, I'd rather have what they are doing now making the content an actual feature instead of useless trash ships to sit there and look at.
We are getting a new radial menu, more convenient features in general, better transitions between star systems, rebalancing/V3, updated code to pave way for things like buildable stargates, customizable ship skins, changing the way you actually play the game. You can't expect them to just pile on new content after new content. Updating the game to make it feel like a game, getting "spreadsheets and menus and loading bars" To pave way for a more interactive experience is the best thing I could have asked for in EVE.
This rebalance has been in dire need for years, and they know that. I don't know why you're so surprised or acting like they should have done more, its only been 6 months since Retribution, You're looking at the small details.
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Gnoshia
Section 8. Fatal Ascension
27
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Posted - 2013.04.27 21:43:00 -
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Florian Kuehne wrote:This Fanfest was mostly Dust 514 and Marketing. They wanted the connection between Eve and Dust but i dont see it. Dust is still beta or so and the planets of Dust are only temporarily. The market, that you can sell the items for dust produced in eve is just a joke. I thought that is somehow tha base of these connection but its not active. Ill care Dust if its on pc.
I bought the HD-Stream, the Stream wasnt really HD, max 720p crap. The Schedule wasnt that good. Show started always later and/or with tech issues. I dont want to speak about lags too. Some points of the schedule are missing till now. They were much other presentations which werent streamed, sad. The quality of the second stream was much worst than the original one.
The features of the upcoming expansion are not that great in my eyes. Sure, fixes and improvements are good but please dont sell these things over and over as new stuff.
I have a bunch of missile issues as example but no one cares about these issues, over 2 months now. Very sad.
Yep. Sadly people will (and are) defending CCP over this. And it makes me angry because with people defending CCP over crap "expansions" like this gives CCP the go ahead to release MORE crap "expansions" because they know it'll make the fan boy player base happy and they can divert their development and resources to other (dust) games.
Really infuriating. |

Gnoshia
Section 8. Fatal Ascension
27
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Posted - 2013.04.27 21:44:00 -
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Altimo wrote:Gnoshia wrote:Rebecha Pucontis wrote:Tippia wrote:Gnoshia wrote:Odyssey is probably the emptiest expansion in EVE history. EeeehhhGǪ No. Short of releasing a patch that does literally nothing, that prize will always go to Quantum Rise GÇö the one-feature expansion. The idea that Odyssey is an empty is just ridiculous. Massive ship rebalance changes, loads of new artwork and graphical effects, completely overhauled scanning and exploration system, jump gate effects when warping, and lets not even mention one of the biggest resource distribution shake ups which will have massive consequences for everyone. That is just some of it, seriously did you people even watch the fanfest streams at all. Please just go away back to your mums basement, the amount of petulant self entitled children complaining in this thread is astounding. No. The problem is CCP could add another speck to the back ground star field and you would describe that as hugely relevant content worthy of praise and respect. lol I'm sorry but this was not an expansion. This was a one giant rebalance of existing content. 99.9% of other games out there, MMO or otherwise, release mini-patches every other month addressing balance issues with their games. While saving their ACTUAL expansions to release ACTUAL content. Not the case for CCP. They just fix old stuff, stamp it with the "New Content" seal, and call it an expansion and then you got foaming at the mouth fan boys like yourself that'll defend them to the very end for it. Excuse me while I barf. You do realize that EVE has been in need of an overhaul for the past 5 years right? Incase you haven't noticed, they've been doing the overhaul on the game since crucible, future proofing the game so they can add "new content" To be honest, I'd rather have what they are doing now making the content an actual feature instead of useless trash ships to sit there and look at. We are getting a new radial menu, more convenient features in general, better transitions between star systems, rebalancing/V3, updated code to pave way for things like buildable stargates, customizable ship skins, changing the way you actually play the game. You can't expect them to just pile on new content after new content. Updating the game to make it feel like a game, getting "spreadsheets and menus and loading bars" To pave way for a more interactive experience is the best thing I could have asked for in EVE. This rebalance has been in dire need for years, and they know that. I don't know why you're so surprised or acting like they should have done more, its only been 6 months since Retribution, You're looking at the small details.
Right five years. They've had...what...10 expansions to trickle in balance changes? But nope. They decided to put it off and dump it all into one empty expansion called Odyssey. |

okst666
Uncharted Skies Cerberus Unleashed
220
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Posted - 2013.04.27 21:46:00 -
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Florian Kuehne wrote: I bought the HD-Stream, the Stream wasnt really HD, max 720p crap.
Not even that...
Right now I am watching the party and it is full of artifacts. This is not even 720p. Thats upscaled 480p.
I am pretty sure they are streaming the wrong channel.. I know that videomixers are complicated and I guess that guy infront of it is watching his output on a tiny monitor that he could not really see what crappy quality they are really broadcasting.
Screenshot of torfi I took this afternoon http://666kb.com/i/cdlhociae3m9kgesp.jpg
This is just not 1080+ Quality...this is not even HD.
Had other screenshots in another thread I don't find now :(
Last year I was able to count every pore of ccp sunsets skin...This time I can only guess that there is a redhead in stockings. :(
[X] < Nail here for new monitor |

Florian Kuehne
Tech3 Company
6
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Posted - 2013.04.27 21:48:00 -
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The funny thing is, they said like 100 times today that DUST is free but who pays for it? wait....
IF CCP brings stuff like incursions, brings a big bunch of important fixes and big stuff like this then we can talk. |

Altimo
Homicidal Teddy Bears
18
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Posted - 2013.04.27 21:49:00 -
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My point is for what ever reason they haven't been on the ball since before the crucible update, they did some good things and the cycle was more or less on and off. Now they are on the ball, yes they are late but they are finally doing that, sure it's going to take awhile. I understand the frustrations of older players, hell im one of them, been playing the game since 2004 on and off, waiting and hoping for new changes, while only enjoying fruits of the game here and there.
You see it as an empty expansion, content wise maybe so, but it's a step in the right direction since retribution. I know this could have been done sooner, I think everyone knows this. However at least they are finally making the improvements, its happening later than I would have wanted, but it's finally happening. |
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