Guess that I'm going to be the first that is going to defend the Fanfest with the simple question:

Do you guys honestly think that new content is the end all be all for a game of this scope? If you say "yes" then frankly you're no better than your lowly CoD fanboi.

Looking at the whole thing there is a staggering amount of things and changes - and yes, Dust is getting a lot more room for obvious reasons.

Of course I eagerly await all you management experts who know everything about having infinite money and manpower in any business to counter-argue.

For those of you who missed it, the "CCP Presents" prsentation -- the highlight of fanfest -- was over 80% DUST

CCP, thanks for DUST Fanfest 2013! I thought you learned a lesson from the community riots after Incarna. It was very interesting to hear about the golden egg for $ 150 (it is the level of squalid Korean MMO). See how instead of updating the game I get a patch with a couple of minor changes. New stargate animation? New scanner? Mini-games? And THAT took half a year?! This is done in a month a group of 5 people. But you doing a dust. You are doing a FREE game while we were PAYING, and now you have the audacity to try to sell us the golden eggs for $ 150 with Oculus Rift. Are you kidding me? Apparently, the one pamphlet that came to us because of the leakage of information during Incarna was not a joke. Apparently, you follow the plan that we've seen. And the last question, when you start to sell gold Drake for aurum?

Yea, I was pretty disappointed as well. Don't get me wrong, I am actually going to get a PS3 to play Dust, but that's not why I was watching Fanfest. I watch Fanfest for Eve, and there was so little of Eve in it that it almost wasn't worth watching.

I am happy with what they're going to add in Odyssey, and lots of these changes have been a long time coming... But, it's not a proper expansion.

Also, whats with them making a VR game, that works real time multiplayer?! Why the hell wasn't that time spent on Eve? Or on WiS stuff? The game looked good, but I was frankly insulted that they thought it would be good to tease us with another avenue of Eve that we will never see, at the expense of areas of Eve we've been asking for since well before Incarna. Ever extra project they started talking about was like a slap in the face. Comic, two books, a TV series! What about a better PC game FFS?

I rarely get annoyed at CCP. I wasn't even pissed when Incarna came out because I was running it on a top end machine. Now though, I am a little pissed.

If they weren't allowed to spend some time on their own personal projects on the side then you'd probably have an EVE Online that would be quite crappier. There is a reason for why the biggest mainstream companies regardless of field allow their employees this kind of freedom. That reason is called "creativity" and for those with a proper brain know that creativity can be very lucrative and is the very thing that advances whatever field said creativity falls under. In short it's a win-win situation.

As for the comic book/tv series, I also approve of this cause I think that the stories from EVE is equal to a treasure trove. Dwarf Fortress is another game where I honestly think you could make an awesome series if done correctly.

Sorry dudes, but I'm going to defend CCP here. I understand your frustration that Fanfest may not have been completely full of EVE Online content, but does this not show that New Eden is expanding and the continued integration of DUST 514 as part of the same universe?

Honestly there was/is/will be a bunch of eve related content in odyssey:
-New gate animations+pretty sensor sweep
-probe deployment
-tags for sec status
-revamped archaeology
-revamped hacking
-v3'd capitals
-improved station interiors and gate graphics
-*4x hi res textures*
-warp to [select your range here] instead of just 0, 5k, 10k, etc.
-nullsec industry, ore, and resource re-balance (aka tech nerf that everyone asked for + improved nullsec manufacturing)
-largest ship rebalance ever, all t1 bs, faction cruiser, faction bs, some faction frigs
-navy battlecruisers
-gnosis for everybody

In all honesty, this is probably one of the larger eve expansions in a while. Granted, a large chunk of fanfest wasn't about eve exclusively, but there was a great deal of info on eve none the less.

Also, the occulus rift game looked absolutely amazing and received significant media attention, which is good for eve as a whole. And building your own stargates is a cool idea.

How is that not a large list?

For those of you who feel let down, betrayed and/or underwhelmed by CCP/Fanfest I have one thing to say:

Lower your expectations.

1. DUST is EVE.

2. There is a huge amount of changes and things coming this summer.

3. its clear you arn't a programmer

4. What CCP uses its cash on is up to CCP. They are a games company, we should thank them for investing so mush isk into EVE for so long unlike just about every other games company out there.

5. So don't buy the egg.

Or maybe CCP should get used to the fact that their entire income comes from us, and our opinions matter.

One thing that i wanted to asked all the time while watching fanfest...

EVE players: why are you so damn FAT?

Also, what's with them making a VR game, that works real time multiplayer?! Why the hell wasn't that time spent on Eve?

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Customer View --> The Customer is always RIGHT
Retailer View --> The customer is mostly always STUPID



Sorry to burst your bubble, but
you are NOT a special precious unique little snowflake

yes that right, lie down on the floor
kick your arms and legs
go 'WAAAAAAAAAGH!!'


your opinion is irrelevant, get used to the thought

don't like it ?? there are other games to play, please go play them
take your mardy petulant whining elsewhere

How is this an "Expansion"

it adds absolutely nothing new what so ever

WTF?! Why i cat edit my post?

Remember Incarna. And as an update met in the Jita. Now, tell me again about the fact that the CCP do not care the opinions of their players. This is not a blizzard that could give a s*** about their players, because they still have the same 8kk fanboys.