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Mangus Thermopyle
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Posted - 2005.10.07 14:54:00 -
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Well, huff does sound like a bunch of small kids with small ****, trying to boost their confidence by ganking on noobs.
If I where a GM, I would give the EU concord support. It would be fun to be in local chat when a bunch of huff in HACs attack that single kestrel, only to be destroyed by concord 5 secs after 
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Himo Amasacia
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Posted - 2005.10.07 14:57:00 -
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Edited by: Himo Amasacia on 07/10/2005 15:00:28
I think people missed the point of my earlier post. Huff nave been doing this to noob corps for at least a month that I know of. Eve-U are simply the most high profile victim thus far. They are a bunch that basicly find the weakest corps they can find and wardec them.
Its one of the reasons that I am glad eve-kills is gone, as they were looking at that and picking those with crap records. In our case, they decked us after I finally reigistered at it and loaded up my utterly rediculously crud record of losses, which added 30+ ship losses (plus 5 or 6 poddings) to our war record. Yes I am that crap, but that isn't the point. It gave us just the ratio whey were looking for
There is nothing quite like removing the chance of defeat and even damage to spoil the chance of victory. They are bullies, plain and simple. Theor only joy in the game is kicking those who cannot threaten them and stroke themselves about how big and powerful they are.
When I get home I'm goint to add a chatlog from a few weeks ago which illustrates this very effectivly.
Bitter? Me?
I'd offer my help, but as I indicated above you're better off without me. 
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Essque
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Posted - 2005.10.07 15:05:00 -
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Edited by: Essque on 07/10/2005 15:11:28
i have a proposal for all the guys who posted in this topic and were saying how "fun" and how better a "learning curve" the noobs from E-UNI will get because of this war.
Make an alt, bring it to 50k SP like the char of my corp mate who posted here earlier, join Huff and come and fight my 2 months old 1.7mil SP char. You'll stand better chances as i stood the day before yesterday alone in my Stabber against 2 HACs and a BS with 10mil+ SP pilots.
Do we have a deal ?
to all the "nice" guys who offered to pay for clones: no thanks, i'll pay for that myself, and if i must spend all my hard earned money in this war, so be it.
...and Avon, why don't you (re)join Huff Tech? You got it ? Exactly.
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Dianabolic
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Posted - 2005.10.07 15:14:00 -
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Essque, I'll be more than happy to bring a well led group of 10 pilots with a combined total of less than 1m sp and own any single, solo ship in this game, that's the point we're trying to make!!
EVE-U don't have the sp, they have the NUMBERS. They need to fight to THEIR strengths and NOT those of Huff, for you will surely lose.
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Avon
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Posted - 2005.10.07 15:22:00 -
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 Originally by: Essque
to all the "nice" guys who offered to pay for clones: no thanks, i'll pay for that myself, and if i must spend all my hard earned money in this war, so be it.
...and Avon, why don't you (re)join Huff Tech? You got it ? Exactly.
Er, that 'nice' guy was me.
I'm not really sure what point you are trying to make about me to be honest.
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Essque
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Posted - 2005.10.07 15:24:00 -
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Diana, I get your point. I am not supposed to give any numbers now, for obvious reasons, i will tell you just this: E-UNI doesn't even have the numbers. Sad but true.
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Dianabolic
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Posted - 2005.10.07 15:33:00 -
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Then something needs to be done, essque.
I will however say this: The mentality that is currently coming out of eve-u is one that is defeatist. The first battle that you HAVE to win is the one in your own mind and the mind of your members.
You CAN win this, you WILL win this, you have public support, you have offers of help from some VERY experienced players in this game, many of whom I KNOW are trying to wangle time off from their existing duties to create a noob alt and join up with eve-u to give you numbers.
The thing is, you really REALLY do not need it. If you can get 15 people in gang you can swap 15 ships and 15 pods for a zealot and KNOW that you've "won" that engagement. The fact that HUFF are camping your home station gives YOU the upper hand. So you die, you dock, you get a new ship, you undock, you fight, they WILL die.
Get them factories moving guys, don't be so proud not to take the help that is offered, that is what a corporation is all about. Within my own corp we provide all ammo, t1 mods and t1 ships up to cruisers for free so no one ever has an excuse not to fight. Get as many of your guys to train up the rifter, propulsion jamming and mwd, throw hundreds of those in the hangars, get 3 or 4 each setup with mixes of warp disruptors, sensor dampeners and webs.
Your 10 man gang just multiplied itself by 4 when in the same system as your supplies.
Change the perception of this guys, if you can turn round and beat huff at their own game you're sending a far stronger message than anyone else will be in this game - that people cannot be bullied if they're smart 
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Memnoch67
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Posted - 2005.10.07 15:50:00 -
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Originally by: So'Kar
Join alliance or make one and increase their war bill to 50mil. 
haha, like that'll phase them
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Jasmine Constantine
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Posted - 2005.10.07 16:30:00 -
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Edited by: Jasmine Constantine on 07/10/2005 16:30:26
Train 40 guys with Sensor Dampers, Scramblers and light missiles on kestrels.
Train a couple of guys (or recruit them) with covops and provide invisible warpins.
Warpin on top of the huff battleships. Make sure all enemy hostiles about about 4 dampers each on them, and proceed to kill everything.
(have replacement Kestrels in the station and ensure everyone has a preprepped instadock from a close safe and insta undock to the close safe)
Make the battle an endless revolving door of death for Huff. Use dampers so much that their ships will be naked without 4 sensor boosters. When that happens change the strat and use 9 dampers per enemy ship (3 kestrels group focus)
Eventually they'll come to the forums and cry about how lame getting zerged with damping kestrels is and then you've won.
End.
(If you can't afford 100 kestrels with dampers and scramblers and light missiles send me the bill - I'll be glad to help)
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Spaja Saist
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Posted - 2005.10.07 16:34:00 -
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Originally by: Silverado19
I dont understand the problem here. If EVE-U is doing nothing but mining they are missing more than half (and the best part) of this game.
Somehow I figure that quite a few of their members will end up leaving soon after this war ends with the desire to pursue the combat/PVP portion of EVE and will have more experience under their belt bacause of it.
This is a game guys, might as well have fun playing it. Veldspar is boring.
First of all who said all they do is mining? And who the hell are you to tell people how they should play the game. You seem to think because you like pvp that everyone must.
The sad part is eve is filling up with griefers like you. I'm all for pvp and eve wouldn't be the same without it but this just crosses the line. You risk damaging eve for your own selfish thrills.
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Dianabolic
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Posted - 2005.10.07 16:45:00 -
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Originally by: Spaja Saist
Originally by: Silverado19
I dont understand the problem here. If EVE-U is doing nothing but mining they are missing more than half (and the best part) of this game.
Somehow I figure that quite a few of their members will end up leaving soon after this war ends with the desire to pursue the combat/PVP portion of EVE and will have more experience under their belt bacause of it.
This is a game guys, might as well have fun playing it. Veldspar is boring.
First of all who said all they do is mining? And who the hell are you to tell people how they should play the game. You seem to think because you like pvp that everyone must.
The sad part is eve is filling up with griefers like you. I'm all for pvp and eve wouldn't be the same without it but this just crosses the line. You risk damaging eve for your own selfish thrills.
Your attitude is more dangerous than silverado's, tbh.
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Spaja Saist
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Posted - 2005.10.07 16:53:00 -
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Originally by: Avon
Originally by: Essque
to all the "nice" guys who offered to pay for clones: no thanks, i'll pay for that myself, and if i must spend all my hard earned money in this war, so be it.
...and Avon, why don't you (re)join Huff Tech? You got it ? Exactly.
Er, that 'nice' guy was me.
I'm not really sure what point you are trying to make about me to be honest.
Maybe that you're an egotistical *****.
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Amugo
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Posted - 2005.10.07 16:58:00 -
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Eve-U has a pretty large member base last I checked, now if you dont lose to many from the War dec. I would suggest just bringing overwelming numbers and crushing Huff every chance you get.
It will show those griefers to not take you lightly, and may even prevent them from just war deccing newbie corps in the future.
I'd bet lots of the kill boards out and about would love to see the kill mails from Eve-U crushing Huff.
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Spaja Saist
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Posted - 2005.10.07 16:58:00 -
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Originally by: Dianabolic
Originally by: Spaja Saist
Originally by: Silverado19
I dont understand the problem here. If EVE-U is doing nothing but mining they are missing more than half (and the best part) of this game.
Somehow I figure that quite a few of their members will end up leaving soon after this war ends with the desire to pursue the combat/PVP portion of EVE and will have more experience under their belt bacause of it.
This is a game guys, might as well have fun playing it. Veldspar is boring.
First of all who said all they do is mining? And who the hell are you to tell people how they should play the game. You seem to think because you like pvp that everyone must.
The sad part is eve is filling up with griefers like you. I'm all for pvp and eve wouldn't be the same without it but this just crosses the line. You risk damaging eve for your own selfish thrills.
Your attitude is more dangerous than silverado's, tbh.
And yours is down right rediculous. You expect way too much from people who've been playing the game for less than a month. I think you have forgotten what it was like when you first started out. At least for me when I was a noob there was only frigates in the game. Now these poor guys have to face griefers in HACs and BSs.
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Memnoch67
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Posted - 2005.10.07 17:05:00 -
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Originally by: Spaja Saist
Originally by: Dianabolic
Originally by: Spaja Saist
Originally by: Silverado19
I dont understand the problem here. If EVE-U is doing nothing but mining they are missing more than half (and the best part) of this game.
Somehow I figure that quite a few of their members will end up leaving soon after this war ends with the desire to pursue the combat/PVP portion of EVE and will have more experience under their belt bacause of it.
This is a game guys, might as well have fun playing it. Veldspar is boring.
First of all who said all they do is mining? And who the hell are you to tell people how they should play the game. You seem to think because you like pvp that everyone must.
The sad part is eve is filling up with griefers like you. I'm all for pvp and eve wouldn't be the same without it but this just crosses the line. You risk damaging eve for your own selfish thrills.
Your attitude is more dangerous than silverado's, tbh.
And yours is down right rediculous. You expect way too much from people who've been playing the game for less than a month. I think you have forgotten what it was like when you first started out. At least for me when I was a noob there was only frigates in the game. Now these poor guys have to face griefers in HACs and BSs.
i dont see what all the fuss is about... huff's playing the bad guy part as pirates... eve is a game of all types and just because the bad guys poke their faces out everyone goes ape s**t over it?
half the fun in this game is when u reach huff's level and get to choose who u want to kill, and DO IT! i'm relatively new, and when i get to a veteran-ish level, i wont be doign any different than what huff is doing
GO HUFF!
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Dianabolic
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Posted - 2005.10.07 17:12:00 -
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Originally by: Spaja Saist
Originally by: Dianabolic
Originally by: Spaja Saist
Originally by: Silverado19
I dont understand the problem here. If EVE-U is doing nothing but mining they are missing more than half (and the best part) of this game.
Somehow I figure that quite a few of their members will end up leaving soon after this war ends with the desire to pursue the combat/PVP portion of EVE and will have more experience under their belt bacause of it.
This is a game guys, might as well have fun playing it. Veldspar is boring.
First of all who said all they do is mining? And who the hell are you to tell people how they should play the game. You seem to think because you like pvp that everyone must.
The sad part is eve is filling up with griefers like you. I'm all for pvp and eve wouldn't be the same without it but this just crosses the line. You risk damaging eve for your own selfish thrills.
Your attitude is more dangerous than silverado's, tbh.
And yours is down right rediculous. You expect way too much from people who've been playing the game for less than a month. I think you have forgotten what it was like when you first started out. At least for me when I was a noob there was only frigates in the game. Now these poor guys have to face griefers in HACs and BSs.
And when I started there was the surgical strike bug that enabled those who used it to one shot any ship and remained in the game until people were one-shotting cruisers.
When I started there was no frigate mwd.
You're being defeatist. All I want for the pilots of eve-u to do is to work as a team, because teamwork > *.
Give me 15 pilots in rifters with less than a week of training and I'll start killing hac's and battleships - just because YOU can't do it doesn't mean we can't.
Hell, I'll take 30 pilots in t1 equipped noob ships and kill MULTIPLE ships, from cruisers to battlecruisers WHILST GETTING SHOT AT BY SENTRY GUNS!
It's all about leadership and organisation, it always has been and always will be, that's what makes eve so great.
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Meliah Rage
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Posted - 2005.10.07 17:19:00 -
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Edited by: Meliah Rage on 07/10/2005 17:19:21
Originally by: Dianabolic
Then something needs to be done, essque.
I will however say this: The mentality that is currently coming out of eve-u is one that is defeatist. The first battle that you HAVE to win is the one in your own mind and the mind of your members.
You CAN win this, you WILL win this, you have public support, you have offers of help from some VERY experienced players in this game, many of whom I KNOW are trying to wangle time off from their existing duties to create a noob alt and join up with eve-u to give you numbers.
The thing is, you really REALLY do not need it. If you can get 15 people in gang you can swap 15 ships and 15 pods for a zealot and KNOW that you've "won" that engagement. The fact that HUFF are camping your home station gives YOU the upper hand. So you die, you dock, you get a new ship, you undock, you fight, they WILL die.
Get them factories moving guys, don't be so proud not to take the help that is offered, that is what a corporation is all about. Within my own corp we provide all ammo, t1 mods and t1 ships up to cruisers for free so no one ever has an excuse not to fight. Get as many of your guys to train up the rifter, propulsion jamming and mwd, throw hundreds of those in the hangars, get 3 or 4 each setup with mixes of warp disruptors, sensor dampeners and webs.
Your 10 man gang just multiplied itself by 4 when in the same system as your supplies.
Change the perception of this guys, if you can turn round and beat huff at their own game you're sending a far stronger message than anyone else will be in this game - that people cannot be bullied if they're smart
-Dom hindsight ftl. Your right though.
-Your defetist comment lack weight since your in a organisation that is a pvp juggernaut. Easy not to feel defitist there. But your right again, the war is won in the mind, but its easy to just say it.
-I think ppl assume we have more numbers than we have, pls dont.
-If you an experince leader with some spare time pls join. atleast with an alt, we need you.
Thank.
ps. in my school it was always the smart kids that got bullied.
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Spaja Saist
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Posted - 2005.10.07 17:19:00 -
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Originally by: Dianabolic
Originally by: Spaja Saist
Originally by: Dianabolic
Originally by: Spaja Saist
Originally by: Silverado19
I dont understand the problem here. If EVE-U is doing nothing but mining they are missing more than half (and the best part) of this game.
Somehow I figure that quite a few of their members will end up leaving soon after this war ends with the desire to pursue the combat/PVP portion of EVE and will have more experience under their belt bacause of it.
This is a game guys, might as well have fun playing it. Veldspar is boring.
First of all who said all they do is mining? And who the hell are you to tell people how they should play the game. You seem to think because you like pvp that everyone must.
The sad part is eve is filling up with griefers like you. I'm all for pvp and eve wouldn't be the same without it but this just crosses the line. You risk damaging eve for your own selfish thrills.
Your attitude is more dangerous than silverado's, tbh.
And yours is down right rediculous. You expect way too much from people who've been playing the game for less than a month. I think you have forgotten what it was like when you first started out. At least for me when I was a noob there was only frigates in the game. Now these poor guys have to face griefers in HACs and BSs.
And when I started there was the surgical strike bug that enabled those who used it to one shot any ship and remained in the game until people were one-shotting cruisers.
When I started there was no frigate mwd.
You're being defeatist. All I want for the pilots of eve-u to do is to work as a team, because teamwork > *.
Give me 15 pilots in rifters with less than a week of training and I'll start killing hac's and battleships - just because YOU can't do it doesn't mean we can't.
Hell, I'll take 30 pilots in t1 equipped noob ships and kill MULTIPLE ships, from cruisers to battlecruisers WHILST GETTING SHOT AT BY SENTRY GUNS!
It's all about leadership and organisation, it always has been and always will be, that's what makes eve so great.
And once again you're missing my point. Some of these guys will never be pvpers. Some may enjoy the building side of the game. And some may want to do pvp but will never be good at it. You're making a blank statement as to the ability of thses folks. I for one hope they are capable of what you are saying so they can teach those bastards a lesson but hope and reality aren't always the same thing. If you think all they need is a capable leader then by all means join em and help out.
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Famine Aligher'ri
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Posted - 2005.10.07 17:28:00 -
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You can cry about it all day. Do something about it otherwise mind your buisness =)
-Famine Aligher'ri, of The Aligher'ri
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Lilan Kahn
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Posted - 2005.10.07 17:35:00 -
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Originally by: Spaja Saist
Originally by: Dianabolic
Originally by: Spaja Saist
Originally by: Silverado19
I dont understand the problem here. If EVE-U is doing nothing but mining they are missing more than half (and the best part) of this game.
Somehow I figure that quite a few of their members will end up leaving soon after this war ends with the desire to pursue the combat/PVP portion of EVE and will have more experience under their belt bacause of it.
This is a game guys, might as well have fun playing it. Veldspar is boring.
First of all who said all they do is mining? And who the hell are you to tell people how they should play the game. You seem to think because you like pvp that everyone must.
The sad part is eve is filling up with griefers like you. I'm all for pvp and eve wouldn't be the same without it but this just crosses the line. You risk damaging eve for your own selfish thrills.
Your attitude is more dangerous than silverado's, tbh.
And yours is down right rediculous. You expect way too much from people who've been playing the game for less than a month. I think you have forgotten what it was like when you first started out. At least for me when I was a noob there was only frigates in the game. Now these poor guys have to face griefers in HACs and BSs.
lol when i started out i lost um lets see oh thats right i lost abut 40 cruisers in my first 2 weeks course i made 500k of it time and pirating was so damn fun !
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Spaja Saist
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Posted - 2005.10.07 17:46:00 -
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Originally by: Famine Aligher'ri
You can cry about it all day. Do something about it otherwise mind your buisness =)
How bout you take your own advise.
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Essque
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Posted - 2005.10.07 17:48:00 -
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Originally by: Dianabolic
Give me 15 pilots in rifters with less than a week of training and I'll start killing hac's and battleships - just because YOU can't do it doesn't mean we can't.
Hell, I'll take 30 pilots in t1 equipped noob ships and kill MULTIPLE ships, from cruisers to battlecruisers WHILST GETTING SHOT AT BY SENTRY GUNS!
It's all about leadership and organisation, it always has been and always will be, that's what makes eve so great.
I'm giving you 10-15 pilots in Rifters or whatever they fly, let's go kill some HACs and battleships.
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Avon
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Posted - 2005.10.07 18:39:00 -
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Originally by: Spaja Saist
Some of these guys will never be pvpers
Right, that's lesson one.
At some point in Eve, everyone will be a PvPer, if they like it or not.
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Fuglife
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Posted - 2005.10.07 19:16:00 -
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its true 
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Shai Faetal
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Posted - 2005.10.07 20:10:00 -
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this is as lame as pirates ganking 1 day old players in noob ships in 0.4 systems
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Frakri Hogsto
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Posted - 2005.10.07 20:35:00 -
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I really don't see why people are making such a big deal out of this.
HUFF declared war on an ingame corporation.....Is declaring war now a petiionable action?
No matter what you think about giving people experience, it's true. They join EU to learn the game, now they can learn to fight.
EU is not the only corp in the game to help new players. I was never in EU, and i don't recall anyone i know in game to have been either. All new players have options : Stay and fight, or go else where. Takes a click of a button.
When creating a corp you have the options of where you want that corp to go, what you want that corp to do, and the image you want to make for your corp, HUFF have never really given 2 ****s about what people think of them, nor do they care.
For the people who know nothing about each side, and wish to throw insults around, back up your smack!
P.S Nitros a nubitz 
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j0sephine
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Posted - 2005.10.07 20:46:00 -
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Edited by: j0sephine on 07/10/2005 20:46:09
"Train 40 guys with Sensor Dampers, Scramblers and light missiles on kestrels."
Considering couple post made in this thread, i suspect '40 guys' is likely nothing but pipedream...
Large member base listed in corp attributes means little when the corp in question is 'school' for starting players. Most of these members are probably long-inactive characters created during trial period by people who are no longer playing the game, but didn't bother to leave the corp before quitting o.O;
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j0sephine
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Posted - 2005.10.07 20:53:00 -
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Edited by: j0sephine on 07/10/2005 20:53:30
"I really don't see why people are making such a big deal out of this."
People make the fuss because it's equivalent of a 30 year old bullying pre-schooler out of their lunch money... plain lame.
So people call it as they see it, simple as that.
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Frakri Hogsto
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Posted - 2005.10.07 21:10:00 -
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Originally by: j0sephine
Edited by: j0sephine on 07/10/2005 21:03:11
"I really don't see why people are making such a big deal out of this."
People make the fuss because it's equivalent of a 30 year old bullying pre-schooler out of their lunch money... plain lame.
So people call it as they see it, simple as that.
(every good conflict requires the bad guy, the good guy and dedicated bunch of forum hoes to make a mountain-sized issue out of it ;s
It's a game........
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Cummilla
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Posted - 2005.10.07 21:24:00 -
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I wonder if EU accepts applications from people with negative sec ratings and checkered pasts :) ?
And where might this beseiged EU station be? Yeah, I'm too lazy to look it up 
As far as Huff is concerned. They aren't worth a decent flame. I'd much rather focus on evaporating that pitiful excuse for a group they've constituted outside that particular EU station. 
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