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Pattern Clarc
Aperture Harmonics
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Posted - 2013.08.01 21:44:00 -
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X Gallentius wrote: Just giving an added reason WHY the Eos should get the Myrm hull..... It doesn't even need to be explained. Eos = Myrmidon hull, don't care too much about the rest, end of story, that's all she wrote, period. Ex CSM member & Designer of the Tornado. Gallente - Pilot satisfaction |
Joxxy
Jolly Codgers Get Off My Lawn
18
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Posted - 2013.08.01 23:39:00 -
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CCP Fozzie wrote:
That would (potentially) mean:
Eos would use the Myrm hull Sleipnir would use the Hurricane hull Abso would use the Harb hull Nighthawk would use the Drake hull
Yes, yes and oh- YES! |
Travasty Space
Pilots of Epic Tribal Band
25
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Posted - 2013.08.02 00:47:00 -
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Kel hound wrote:CCP Fozzie wrote:Cards on the table, the Sleipnir is the ship I have the greatest emotional attachment to of any ship in EVE. It would look great as a Hurricane, but it would also look DIFFERENT and that makes me feel confused feelings deep inside my heart.
I also don't think this kind of change would be worthwhile unless we did all four and converted them into those specific hulls, since any deviation would make it harder for a new player trying to get information from their looks.
So it's kinda an all or nothing deal, which is what makes it such a difficult question. If its all or nothing then watch me push all my chips to the center cuz I'm all in.
Empty bump of Glorious model changes. |
Sarkelias Anophius
Strange Energy Gentlemen's Agreement
31
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Posted - 2013.08.02 01:06:00 -
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CCP Fozzie wrote:This is something I've been thinking about during my predesign for the command ships.
I'll start with this disclaimer, we will never feel that we need to make hull designs match the function of every ship. So there's no NEED to switch the hulls on any command ships. This is not something we've decided to do, but it is something we could do and would like your opinions on.
It might be interesting to convert half the command ships into the other BC hull, picking the one that matches their weapon type at the T1 level.
That would (potentially) mean:
Eos would use the Myrm hull Sleipnir would use the Hurricane hull Abso would use the Harb hull Nighthawk would use the Drake hull This is the kind of thing that we'd expect many people would have strong opinions about, and since it wouldn't have direct gameplay effects we wouldn't consider it worth doing unless there was some significant community support for the idea that overwhelms the opposition.
So, hypothetically, what do you guys think?
Absolutely yes.
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Sylvanium Orlenard
EVE University Ivy League
35
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Posted - 2013.08.02 03:20:00 -
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Yes, pls Yes, pls Yes, pls Yes.
EOS in the Myrm hull = Priceless :D |
Moksa Elodie
Black-Watch Corporation Heretic Initiative
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Posted - 2013.08.02 03:49:00 -
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100% in favour of this |
Klingon Admiral
Black Hole Cluster
63
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Posted - 2013.08.02 05:17:00 -
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WTS Nighthawk - I can't stand the blandness that is called the Drake hull. |
Zhilia Mann
Tide Way Out Productions
1428
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Posted - 2013.08.02 05:59:00 -
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Klingon Admiral wrote:WTS Nighthawk - I can't stand the blandness that is called the Drake hull.
This. If this all goes through I'm going to be extremely ******* pissed off. |
Coldtrace
Cold Lords
0
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Posted - 2013.08.02 10:16:00 -
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Absolution and Nighthawk, they add a variety to the hulls I normally fly, don't do these changes!
Why not give a choice on what racial BC hull to use and maybe what hull paint to go with it!
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Phoenix Jones
Shockwave Innovations Surely You're Joking
134
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Posted - 2013.08.02 10:20:00 -
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Coldtrace wrote:Absolution and Nighthawk, they add a variety to the hulls I normally fly, don't do these changes!
Why not give a choice on what racial BC hull to use and maybe what hull paint to go with it!
Recognition issues ingame. You can't figure it out by eyeballing it |
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Vesan Terakol
Sad Face Enterprises
15
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Posted - 2013.08.02 10:42:00 -
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I'd still say that Claymore should use the Hurricane hull as base, despite fielding missiles. I mean:
http://images3.wikia.nocookie.net/__cb20100622011212/deadliestwarrior/images/1/14/2060gt-1-.jpg
Doesn't the Hurricane happen to look like this?
Edit: broken link. |
Kikusama
Shadows Of The Federation Drunk 'n' Disorderly
17
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Posted - 2013.08.02 11:55:00 -
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CCP Fozzie wrote: Eos would use the Myrm hull Sleipnir would use the Hurricane hull Abso would use the Harb hull Nighthawk would use the Drake hull Eos should get it's old model back, with the moving beard thingie, but updated for V3. Sleipnir, Absolution and Nighthawk should keep their current models, to be honest.
Command ships in general are ships that people are very attached to emotionally. As you well said, they'd be different and it'll make people that trained hard for them p. sad. The Hurricane hull deserves to be on its own, it's just as an iconic ship as the Sleipnir (as it is now). Same goes with the Harbinger.
The Drake hull for a command ship is heresy imho. Yeap, you just trained for 1 year + to fly a different paintjob of a ship that everyone and their mother flew. Ew. Unless you make it black with red stripes (I think it was the Kalakiota or Ishukone Drake or something). Let's be honest, it doesn't scream "awesome". The Ferox hull amazingly fits the purpose, though.
My sincere opinion - if you want to do something with the models, do what you did for the stealth bombers - variations on the same hull. It'll put the art department to work, but will actually give the Command Ships the aura of exclusivity they deserve.
Guns make the news. Science doesn't. |
Cyaron wars
SkREW CREW Local Down
37
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Posted - 2013.08.02 12:36:00 -
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CCP Fozzie wrote:This is something I've been thinking about during my predesign for the command ships.
I'll start with this disclaimer, we will never feel that we need to make hull designs match the function of every ship. So there's no NEED to switch the hulls on any command ships. This is not something we've decided to do, but it is something we could do and would like your opinions on.
It might be interesting to convert half the command ships into the other BC hull, picking the one that matches their weapon type at the T1 level.
That would (potentially) mean:
Eos would use the Myrm hull Sleipnir would use the Hurricane hull Abso would use the Harb hull Nighthawk would use the Drake hull This is the kind of thing that we'd expect many people would have strong opinions about, and since it wouldn't have direct gameplay effects we wouldn't consider it worth doing unless there was some significant community support for the idea that overwhelms the opposition.
So, hypothetically, what do you guys think?
Don't u even think to touch Sleipnir hull. I know u had to nerf the hurricane to being useless , now turning sleipnir hull into hurricane isn't going to fool anyone that the cane is good again... |
Siempre Duskwraith
Dreddit Test Alliance Please Ignore
5
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Posted - 2013.08.02 12:52:00 -
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Nighthawk -> Drake
Please god no. Can we all just admit that as the dopey baby's first BC model is was ok, but this is pretty much bullshit. The drake model is god awful.
I have an alt that uses the nighthawk to rat, this will be changing if this goes live. |
El Geo
Pathfinders. The Marmite Collective
124
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Posted - 2013.08.02 12:53:00 -
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Theodore Giumbix wrote:CCP Fozzie wrote:That would (potentially) mean:
Eos would use the Myrm hull Sleipnir would use the Hurricane hull Abso would use the Harb hull Nighthawk would use the Drake hull This is the kind of thing that we'd expect many people would have strong opinions about, and since it wouldn't have direct gameplay effects we wouldn't consider it worth doing unless there was some significant community support for the idea that overwhelms the opposition.
So, hypothetically, what do you guys think? This would actually make more sense. And speaking about things that makes sense, Caldari also needs some faction hybrid boats, we have enough missile/drone faction boats. - frigates: Caldari Navy Hookbill (missile) , Worm (missile & drones) , even tho Merlin is a hybrid boat - cruisers: Caracal Navy Issue (missile) , Osprey Navy Issue (missile) , Gila (missile&drones even tho the moa & eagle use hybrid guns) - battlecruisers: Drake Navy Issue (missile) - battleships: Raven Navy Issue (missile), Scorpion Navy Issue (missiles), Rattlesnake (missile&drones) How about some faction ferox/rokh hull boats with hybrid guns for caldari and change Gila to use hybrid guns too ?
they could even do simple skins where the bonus's were switched over path-+find-+er (pthfndr, p+ñth-)n. 1. One that discovers a new course or way, especially through or into unexplored regions.
http://www.youtube.com/user/EvEPathfinders/videos?view=0 |
Klingon Admiral
Black Hole Cluster
66
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Posted - 2013.08.02 13:09:00 -
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My issues with the Nighthawk besides, I am the only one who fears that CCP will fail hard at the Sarum shaders on a Harb? Just remember the old Pala, or currently the Pilgrim, which colors are rather "washed out". Oh the joy of strapping new shaders on now nearly six year old art assets ...
So CCP, please, redesign the BCs next. |
Wanderer Larze
Hunt and Salvage Inc.
0
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Posted - 2013.08.02 13:36:00 -
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Yes please, I trained into command ships but have yet to pick up a nighthawk because of the current model of the ship. I have always thought it should be the drake model. If this is changed I will finally pick one up to fly. |
Daniel Plain
Science and Trade Institute Caldari State
1320
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Posted - 2013.08.02 13:46:00 -
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Klingon Admiral wrote:WTS Nighthawk - I can't stand the blandness that is called the Drake hull. let me take it from you. the space cardboard of death is gorgeous and i love it in the face all day every day.
"I don't troll, I just give overly blunt responses that annoy people who are wrong but don't want to admit it. It's not my fault that people have sensitive feelings" -MXZF |
Alsyth
66
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Posted - 2013.08.02 14:16:00 -
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Just change the EOS to Myrm hull as you made a Navy Brutix and not a Navy Myrm, and everyone would enjoy a new ship based on Mymridon hull.
Do not touch the other, someone who wants another Drake/Harbinger/Hurricane hull can just take the Faction one.
Or if you touch them, add wings, new lights, antennas, or something like that as they all look too similar to the T1 hull apart from color, but don't change the base hull. Please. Or I will hate you forever for making Nighthawk, Sleipnir and Absolution (three of my favourite ships) ugly. |
m3talc0re X
Solar Revolutions Co.
140
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Posted - 2013.08.02 15:48:00 -
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It's funny, I suggested this before and got relatively no feedback... |
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Kara Corvinus
Empyrean Acolytes
88
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Posted - 2013.08.02 17:29:00 -
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ugh red myrm?
please use cron colors, black & blue myrm ftw \o/ |
v0cks
Wildly Inappropriate Goonswarm Federation
0
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Posted - 2013.08.02 17:55:00 -
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I highly support the changing of the hulls. While you are at it could you PLEASE make the wings on the raven symmetrical (preferably two of the large wings) and fix the butt fugly that is the moa. I would seriously pay you real money to make this happen. |
Ines Tegator
Towels R Us
338
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Posted - 2013.08.02 19:13:00 -
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So do we have a tech 2 Myrm yet?
Hurry it up! - Mission Overhaul - Bridging the PVP / PVE Gap - -áIf the game stops teaching people to fear lowsec, maybe people will start going there? |
Azn Assassin
Dissidence Dawn C.L.O.N.E.
0
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Posted - 2013.08.02 23:27:00 -
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CCP Fozzie wrote:This is something I've been thinking about during my predesign for the command ships.
I'll start with this disclaimer, we will never feel that we need to make hull designs match the function of every ship. So there's no NEED to switch the hulls on any command ships. This is not something we've decided to do, but it is something we could do and would like your opinions on.
It might be interesting to convert half the command ships into the other BC hull, picking the one that matches their weapon type at the T1 level.
That would (potentially) mean:
Eos would use the Myrm hull Sleipnir would use the Hurricane hull Abso would use the Harb hull Nighthawk would use the Drake hull This is the kind of thing that we'd expect many people would have strong opinions about, and since it wouldn't have direct gameplay effects we wouldn't consider it worth doing unless there was some significant community support for the idea that overwhelms the opposition.
So, hypothetically, what do you guys think?
Yes please! |
ShahFluffers
Ice Fire Warriors Late Night Alliance
2954
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Posted - 2013.08.03 00:36:00 -
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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8m8bZ7ThlRY
You're welcome people. Change isn't bad, but it isn't always good. Sometimes, the oldest and most simple of things can be the most elegant and effective. |
Ines Tegator
Towels R Us
341
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Posted - 2013.08.04 00:23:00 -
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ShahFluffers wrote:http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8m8bZ7ThlRY You're welcome people. Thanks.
That's one sexy Harb- Absolution. Those colors mean business.
But really, I just want something that uses the myrm hull but is tech 2. The myrm is sexy. I want more excuses to ogle at it. - Mission Overhaul - Bridging the PVP / PVE Gap - -áIf the game stops teaching people to fear lowsec, maybe people will start going there? |
Klingon Admiral
Black Hole Cluster
66
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Posted - 2013.08.04 01:03:00 -
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Ines Tegator wrote:ShahFluffers wrote:http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8m8bZ7ThlRY You're welcome people. Thanks. That's one sexy Harb- Absolution. Those colors mean business. But really, I just want something that uses the myrm hull but is tech 2. The myrm is sexy. I want more excuses to ogle at it.
The colors on the Harbsolution are awful. Ok, not quite as awful as on the old!Paladin, but still quite from good. Remember that the large red areas are at least two colourtones ( the dark bordeaux main colour and some grey-brownish tertiary colour), so as usual for legacy-models with Carthum shaders, the contrast is awful. And the glossiness, og the glossiness. Legacy-models suck.
Additionally, the Sleipcane doesn't grow on me either, and I already said what I think about the Drakehawk.
But that Myrmidon-Eos (no portmaneau name here, sorry) is a sexy ship, that's for sure. |
Javon Bars
FinFleet Northern Coalition.
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Posted - 2013.08.04 03:58:00 -
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Gallente: Not a fan of the brutix model, so a colourful myrm reskin would be nice to see in space.
Minmatar: I'm a fan of the Sleip but lets be honest: the only reason we associate the Cyclone model with the Sleip so strongly was because up until Odyssey the Cyclone was crap and almost nobody ever used it. We're just used to thinking about that model as the Sleip's model instead of the Cyclone's model because the Sleip is awesome and that's rather silly. The Hurricane on the other hand is arguably one of the coolest, slickest and nastiest looking models in the game, giving it to the Sleip would serve both ships great justice, considering that all those adjectives apply to the Sleip itself.
Caldari: Don't like either model tbh, the greater variety would be nice though.
Amarr: The change I dislike the most, the Abso has a gorgeous gold/red colour scheme and the Prophecy hull is far more beautiful than the Harbinger one, still if this is the price we have to pay for greater variety I still think it's worth it.
This change is a wonderful idea, more variety is always welcome because it enriches the game. |
Lorch
Republic Military School Minmatar Republic
0
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Posted - 2013.08.04 12:05:00 -
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I would love for the hulls to be changed. As much as I like the current Sliepnir model the thought of a Boundless Creation Hurricane hull makes me tingle in new and exiting ways. |
marVLs
352
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Posted - 2013.08.04 12:11:00 -
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I support only if there will be completely new or very much redone hulls Because now we have Navy BCs on t3 hulls, so even more the same ships with different color?
Hell NO!! |
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