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JetCord
People of Random Nature
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Posted - 2013.08.13 05:14:00 -
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CCP Fozzie wrote:This is something I've been thinking about during my predesign for the command ships.
I'll start with this disclaimer, we will never feel that we need to make hull designs match the function of every ship. So there's no NEED to switch the hulls on any command ships. This is not something we've decided to do, but it is something we could do and would like your opinions on.
It might be interesting to convert half the command ships into the other BC hull, picking the one that matches their weapon type at the T1 level.
That would (potentially) mean:
Eos would use the Myrm hull
Sleipnir would use the Hurricane hull
Abso would use the Harb hull
Nighthawk would use the Drake hull
This is the kind of thing that we'd expect many people would have strong opinions about, and since it wouldn't have direct gameplay effects we wouldn't consider it worth doing unless there was some significant community support for the idea that overwhelms the opposition.
So, hypothetically, what do you guys think?
if you gonna use the other BC as their T2 base - well industrialist/ inventor have to adjust our production line .
consider this - some racial BC model is being use to make the navy BC - in term of market this will make certain BPC popular than the other and i do consider this to be a direct effect on gameplay and not just fluff stuff
while i do like the hurricane model to be the new sleip i kinda grow fond on the cyclone model
anyway that is my 2 cent
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Alystin Wyndyl
Night's Shadows
Dark Souls.
11
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Posted - 2013.08.13 06:42:00 -
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I support the hull changes. Do it! |
Keith Planck
League of Extraordinary Equines
Disciples of Vectron
517
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Posted - 2013.08.13 06:49:00 -
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I fully support this because of variety is the spice of life, there are always going to be players that like model X over model Y.
But having a choice between X and Y is always better then no choice at all.
(Also with the disappointment that is the navy hurricane's paint job I would love a hurricane hull to the the strongest ship in the game :P) |
Keith Planck
League of Extraordinary Equines
Disciples of Vectron
517
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Posted - 2013.08.13 06:52:00 -
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GetSirrus wrote:CCP Fozzie wrote:Cards on the table, the Sleipnir is the ship I have the greatest emotional attachment to of any ship in EVE. It would look great as a Hurricane, but it would also look DIFFERENT and that makes me feel confused feelings deep inside my heart.
I also don't think this kind of change would be worthwhile unless we did all four and converted them into those specific hulls, since any deviation would make it harder for a new player trying to get information from their looks.
So it's kinda an all or nothing deal, which is what makes it such a difficult question. Fozzie, how possible would be it to allow for the option of selecting the racial BC hull to use for the T2 output? Myrmidon hull in, vertical Eos out. It would make a nice niche industry - pimping your ride business.
Not likely at all. The amount of time it would take to program/impliment that and the strain it would put on local clients, isn't worth an aesthetic change. The thing that makes the changes ccp suggest so easy is that the models are already made, in game and on clients a long with the textures. |
Syrias Bizniz
Space-Brewery-Association
24eme Legion Etrangere
217
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Posted - 2013.08.13 16:05:00 -
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I would likje to propose that the Damnation will be on the Harbinger, giving it some sweet, sweet Khanid Colors.
Why?
Because F#CK You, that's why!
No, haha, not really, but because of the following:
Punisher ---> Maller ---> Harbinger ---> Abaddon
Laser dmg + Resistances, all of them.
Punisher has a Missile-Based Tech 2 Platform, the Vengeance.
Maller has a Missile-based Tech 2 Platform, the Sacrilege.
There is a Tech 2 Battlecruiser which is Missile based, but has a Prophecy Model because ALL Tech 2 BCs are based on former Tier 1 BC.
Which also leads up to one question.
Will there be a Khanid-Abaddon once the Blackops branch gets split up into a more logistics, support orientated, and a more combat orientated roll?
I hope so.
Woah woah woah wait, the Harb doesn't have a resistance bonus? Shocking news. But still, Khanid Harbinger would be sexy. |
Grog Barrel
Federal Navy Academy
Gallente Federation
47
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Posted - 2013.08.18 02:12:00 -
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CCP Fozzie wrote:Cards on the table, the Sleipnir is the ship I have the greatest emotional attachment to of any ship in EVE.
Well yeah, the slot layout of your beloved pixels made that quite clear from the very beginning, compared to the other FCS hulls. |
Elarath
Armed Aviation Club
The Kadeshi
0
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Posted - 2013.08.25 11:18:00 -
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CCP Fozzie wrote:This is something I've been thinking about during my predesign for the command ships.
Eos would use the Myrm hull
Sleipnir would use the Hurricane hull
Abso would use the Harb hull
Nighthawk would use the Drake hull
YES! NOW!
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Harvey James
Deep Core Mining Inc.
Caldari State
459
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Posted - 2013.08.25 17:02:00 -
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Grog Barrel wrote:CCP Fozzie wrote:Cards on the table, the Sleipnir is the ship I have the greatest emotional attachment to of any ship in EVE. Well yeah, the slot layout of your beloved pixels made that quite clear from the very beginning, compared to the other FCS hulls.
perhaps that's why he wouldn't change the sleipnir to cane layout armour link ship
Tech 3's need to be multi role ships not cruiser hulls with battleship tank and insane resists
ABC's are clearly T2 in all but name
AB's need a buff-á like a big mass reduction ... module tiercide FTW role based instead of tiers please. |
Cade Windstalker
Donohue Enterprises
Ad-Astra
39
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Posted - 2013.08.25 17:57:00 -
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Balzac Legazou wrote:While I like the idea of having more distinctive hulls for each ship, I can't say I find the Myrmidon very suited to a fleet command ship role. It just doesn't look tough enough. I'd rather keep the Eos as is and make the Astarte look a bit more like the Talos, for example. I'd also keep the Sleipnir as is and change the Claymore instead.
Ideally they should all have unique hulls (even if those are inspired by T1 BC hulls) and not just new textures, anyway.
This is completely moot since the Command Ship roles are going away with 1.1. Check the Command Ship changes thread. |
Tatjana Braun
Watschn Inc.
The Unthinkables
148
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Posted - 2013.08.25 19:27:00 -
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I LOVE IT!!!!!!!
https://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=posts&t=251179&find
Ideen zum Minern, Alles hier! |
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Dutch Motsu
BG-1
The Craniac
0
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Posted - 2013.08.27 19:29:00 -
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CCP Fozzie wrote:This is something I've been thinking about during my predesign for the command ships.
I'll start with this disclaimer, we will never feel that we need to make hull designs match the function of every ship. So there's no NEED to switch the hulls on any command ships. This is not something we've decided to do, but it is something we could do and would like your opinions on.
It might be interesting to convert half the command ships into the other BC hull, picking the one that matches their weapon type at the T1 level.
That would (potentially) mean:
Eos would use the Myrm hull
Sleipnir would use the Hurricane hull
Abso would use the Harb hull
Nighthawk would use the Drake hull
This is the kind of thing that we'd expect many people would have strong opinions about, and since it wouldn't have direct gameplay effects we wouldn't consider it worth doing unless there was some significant community support for the idea that overwhelms the opposition.
So, hypothetically, what do you guys think?
Perhaps ccp should create dedicated models for these ships, based on these (or other bc) hulls, rather than reusing the same old drake or myrm hulls that we are always seeing around eve. Kind of like the changes to stealth bombers and Assault Frigates for instance? do the same for HACS and command ships, just to create more variety in ships general appearance. I will use the nighthawk as an example, If they used the drake hull as a base, they could create quite a unique and deadly looking ship. Just a simple thought to make the game look a little better. I'm also 50% sure that there are others who are getting sick of always seeing the same models of ships all the time, having 3 different ships that look identical gets old after a while. some I feel should change to a dedicated model to give us more variety. |
Lephia DeGrande
Luxembourg Space Union
70
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Posted - 2013.08.27 20:20:00 -
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CCP will create unique Hulls for every Ship sooner... or much much much later. |
Murat Kutosov
Quantum Cats Syndicate
Samurai Pizza Cats
2
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Posted - 2013.08.28 00:29:00 -
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Been wanting this change for years!
Make it so! |
Dyfchris
University of Caille
Gallente Federation
0
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Posted - 2013.10.01 19:53:00 -
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No news about this topic ?
I think it's time to name your Myrmidon "Eos Model"  |
Narcotic Gryffin
Bombin Busch Wookies
4
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Posted - 2013.10.01 20:22:00 -
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New models for t2 ships stuck in t1 bodies would be nice. Finish the frig lineup first , make the crow look like a crow in space lol |
Matthew Charbonneaux
Coalescent Dynamics
0
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Posted - 2013.10.01 21:59:00 -
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Just in case there weren't enough, Like the idea: +1 |
Meyr
SiN Corp
49
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Posted - 2013.10.01 22:17:00 -
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Myrmidon Eos hull with T2 graphics?
Absolutely! +1 |
Kay Ahn
Science and Trade Institute
Caldari State
6
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Posted - 2013.10.01 22:44:00 -
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I guess it's time to provide Viking funeral to my beloved Sleipnir, and putting her Minmatar capsuleer to sleep for a long time. Sweet dreams.
Considering overwhelming support of proposed changes, my attachement to Claymore hull and dislike of Hurricane one, I don't think I will be flying Sleipnir after the inevitable transgender process. Luckily, there are other ships, safe. For now. |
Kenrailae
Mind Games.
Suddenly Spaceships.
30
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Posted - 2013.10.02 11:50:00 -
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Sleipnir would still look awesome on a Cane hull
Besides, the Eos will be pure awesome.
The Law is a point of View |
Hong Hu
EVE University
Ivy League
15
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Posted - 2013.10.02 21:40:00 -
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Hmmmmm... Sleipnir... Now Slurricane... Not sure I like (or the Eos or the Nighthawk).
In fact the only one that I 'like' is the revolting, putrid, disgusting, patooey Amarr... (role playing, complete)
Would it kill them to just design a whole new hull? They did it for Stealth Bombers.
Hong Hu |
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Matthew Charbonneaux
Coalescent Dynamics
0
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Posted - 2013.10.03 05:09:00 -
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Hong Hu wrote:Hmmmmm... Sleipnir... Now Slurricane... Not sure I like (or the Eos or the Nighthawk).
In fact the only one that I 'like' is the revolting, putrid, disgusting, patooey Amarr... (role playing, complete)
Would it kill them to just design a whole new hull? They did it for Stealth Bombers.
Hong Hu
Would be cool to see some new skins, even if its just modified versions of the T1s, and I dont mean a colour change, I mean add some spice! Realistically, the designs could use an update from time to time. In the competitive markets that the EVE universe supposedly has, there would be improvements, changes, and upgrades over time. Not only to systems, ala balancing, but to shape as well.
... Need to not drink when I type! |
Alvatore DiMarco
Capricious Endeavours Ltd
638
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Posted - 2013.10.03 07:43:00 -
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With the changes being green-lighted for Rubicon, this thread is now obsolete.
https://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=posts&t=283149&find=unread is where the discussion is happening now. |
NorthCrossroad
EVE University
Ivy League
80
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Posted - 2013.10.03 09:00:00 -
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CCP Fozzie wrote:That would (potentially) mean:
Eos would use the Myrm hull
Sleipnir would use the Hurricane hull
Abso would use the Harb hull
Nighthawk would use the Drake hull No. Just NO. Make two command ship a bit different from each - sure, fine. But really Sleip and Absolution are too awesome as they are to change the base hull.
North |
Rivr Luzade
Coreli Corporation
Ineluctable.
43
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Posted - 2013.10.03 10:57:00 -
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Syrias Bizniz wrote:PavlikX wrote:I don't want replacement of absolution model. Exactly, the Harbinger would look way more nasty in Khanid colors anyways.
Definitely NOT! The Harbinger is a terrible model for a ship and should not be used anymore. It's full of flaws and glitches on top of that. |
NearNihil
Every time is Fuwa time
56
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Posted - 2013.10.03 11:23:00 -
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Confirming I'm the only one in EVE who likes the Harbinger's look.
That said: while I haven't flown any of the CS before, IMO they look fine as they are. I'll get used to them just fine if they change though; it'll also definitely help in identifying what kind of weapons they /should/ be using without having to refer to the Show Info box every time. |
Mashie Saldana
BFG Tech
748
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Posted - 2013.10.03 15:06:00 -
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The current sleipnir looks awesome and has been since I started playing 7+ years ago. The new Hurricane based hull makes it look like a mentally challenged door stop.
Mashie Saldana
Dominique Vasilkovsky
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Jaz Antollare
Deadly Loneliness
28
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Posted - 2013.10.03 15:31:00 -
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With both hands for the change! |
Mihnea Tepes
Astral Silence
Shinjiketo
11
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Posted - 2013.10.03 19:26:00 -
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Eos would use the Myrm hull
Sleipnir would use the Hurricane hull
Abso would use the Harb hull
Nighthawk would use the Drake hull
YES, YES, YES \o/ |
sarsa
No Laws Apply
1
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Posted - 2013.10.04 00:21:00 -
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I do not understand one thing to be really honest, why change something that is fine ? Why change something that none is complaining about and not focus your time on more important things, there are still 100 bil ships that are not rebalanced and you want to change the sexy command ship that we know for years. I am sorry but unless you give me a good explanation why you are not focusing on things that needs fixing more. |
Kraschyn Thek'athor
Die..Brut
13
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Posted - 2013.10.04 01:14:00 -
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Maybe a salomonic solution.
When creating an command ship, using an...
Prophecy bpc for invention and choosing "Absolution" gives out the current model.
Taking an Harbinger BPC for invention and choose absolution, gives the new model.
At the end, often in real world, some fighters do the same and look a bit different.
There are other ships that evolved in two very different variants.
The combat cruiser split up into hac and hic.
Of could we get the old model just as an hic version. :D :D :D
Ey, don't throw frozen corpses. ^^ |
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