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Tea Leaves
Abyssus Spatium Exploratorium The Big Dirty
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Posted - 2013.06.05 07:49:00 -
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one of my alliance members has a MacBook Pro 17". He cannot see his probes in space, ONLY the little arrows in the center of the probes and not the probes themselves (the blue orbs).
I'm using a 15" Retina MBP and am not having the same problems. He is running 10.8.4, he cleared the cache etc. Same issue. Is there some setting that hides the orbs that I never knew about?
Any ideas? |

Liana Khamsi
PIE Inc. Praetoria Imperialis Excubitoris
0
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Posted - 2013.06.05 14:29:00 -
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I'm having this issue as well!
I go into the system map in order to manage my probes, and the grid/sphere graphics that surround each probes range do not show up. This makes it impossible to accuratly place them. |

Ammathi
Warteck Trading Co. The Big Dirty
0
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Posted - 2013.06.05 14:32:00 -
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here are some images, second image is view while holding alt, a tiny bit more manageable, but still quite frustrating. http://imgur.com/zRjTHOQ,djk2tNd,49vTWxd#0 |

Liana Khamsi
PIE Inc. Praetoria Imperialis Excubitoris
0
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Posted - 2013.06.05 15:52:00 -
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Do they read this forum? I was really having fun with exploration before this bug hit. |

Ragashingo
Elixir Aeutet Corporation INFERNAL ALLIANCE
0
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Posted - 2013.06.05 16:30:00 -
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I'm getting this as well on my 13 inch Mid 2009 MacBook Pro. I can see the move handles but not the range spheres. I think it was the OS X 10.8.4 update that killed it for me as I was happily probing earlier in the day. |

Snuskpelle
Imperial Academy Amarr Empire
7
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Posted - 2013.06.05 16:49:00 -
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same problem here. Filed a bug report. pls do the same. |
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CCP Paradox
896

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Posted - 2013.06.05 17:27:00 -
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I am looking into this. Please provide me with some information such as the graphical settings.
Shadow, Texture, Shader Quality, Anti-Aliasing settings etc. This information has been neglected from reports, and I have been having some trouble reproducing with my mac. CCP Paradox | EVE Quality Assurance | Team Super Friends @CCP_Paradox |
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Snuskpelle
Imperial Academy Amarr Empire
7
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Posted - 2013.06.05 17:31:00 -
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CCP Paradox wrote:I am looking into this. Please provide me with some information such as the graphical settings.
Shadow, Texture, Shader Quality, Anti-Aliasing settings etc. This information has been neglected from reports, and I have been having some trouble reproducing with my mac.
Optimized for memory: Anti-Aliasing disabled Post Processing none shader low texture low lod medium shadow disabled interior effect low interior shader low.
Optimized for performance most highest setting. still the same problem. tryed clearing the cache. full screen/windowed no effect.
experimented with different resolutions: no effect. problem remains.
See Bug Ticket: 160322 |
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CCP Paradox
896

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Posted - 2013.06.05 17:32:00 -
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Thanks, and just for some more info, can you tell me what hardware and OS you are using so I can match it to your settings? I can then try it out in the same environment. CCP Paradox | EVE Quality Assurance | Team Super Friends @CCP_Paradox |
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Snuskpelle
Imperial Academy Amarr Empire
7
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Posted - 2013.06.05 17:35:00 -
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CCP Paradox wrote:Thanks, and just for some more info, can you tell me what hardware and OS you are using so I can match it to your settings? I can then try it out in the same environment.
Modellname:MacBook Pro Modell-Identifizierung:MacBookPro5,3 Prozessortyp:Intel Core 2 Duo Prozessorgeschwindigkeit:2.8 GHz Anzahl der Prozessoren:1 Gesamtanzahl der Kerne:2 L2-Cache:6 MB Speicher:4 GB Busgeschwindigkeit:1.07 GHz Boot-ROM-Version:MBP53.00AC.B03 SMC-Version (System):1.48f2 Seriennummer (System):W80030UT64C Hardware-UUID:xxxx Sensor f++r pl+Štzliche Bewegung: Status:Aktiviert
Chipsatz-Modell:NVIDIA GeForce 9400M Typ:GPU Bus:PCI VRAM (gesamt):256 MB Hersteller:NVIDIA (0x10de) Ger+ńte-ID:0x0863 Versions-ID:0x00b1 ROM-Version:3448 gMux-Version:1.8.8
Software OS X 10.8.3 (12D78) |
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CCP Paradox
896

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Posted - 2013.06.05 17:43:00 -
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Thank you, I will try to update you as soon as I know something more. And to anybody else who experiences this please supply the same info Snuskpelle did. It really helps track it down. CCP Paradox | EVE Quality Assurance | Team Super Friends @CCP_Paradox |
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Vincent Athena
V.I.C.E. Aegis Solaris
1940
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Posted - 2013.06.05 17:50:00 -
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For reference, I do not have this issue.
OSX10.7.5
Model Name:MacBook Pro Model Identifier:MacBookPro6,1 Processor Name:Intel Core i7 Processor Speed:2.66 GHz Number Of Processors:1 Total Number Of Cores:2 L2 Cache (per core):256 KB L3 Cache:4 MB Memory:8 GB
Chipset Model:NVIDIA GeForce GT 330M Type:GPU Bus:PCIe PCIe Lane Width:x16 VRAM (Total):512 MB
Graphics are medium.
10.8.4 may be the issue. http://vincentoneve.wordpress.com/ |

Snuskpelle
Imperial Academy Amarr Empire
7
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Posted - 2013.06.05 17:53:00 -
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Vincent Athena wrote:For reference, I do not have this issue.
OSX10.7.5
Model Name:MacBook Pro Model Identifier:MacBookPro6,1 Processor Name:Intel Core i7 Processor Speed:2.66 GHz Number Of Processors:1 Total Number Of Cores:2 L2 Cache (per core):256 KB L3 Cache:4 MB Memory:8 GB
Chipset Model:NVIDIA GeForce GT 330M Type:GPU Bus:PCIe PCIe Lane Width:x16 VRAM (Total):512 MB
Graphics are medium.
10.8.4 may be the issue.
I'll update to 10.8.4 and see if I still got the issue. thanks |

Snuskpelle
Imperial Academy Amarr Empire
7
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Posted - 2013.06.05 18:23:00 -
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Issue solved for me.
I updated to 10.8.4 and tested. did not solve the problem.
Then I went to Reset Settings Tab. Reset to Default Window Positions Reset to Default Window Colors Clear All Settings.
Clients restarts. Probe Sphere does show. So it must be some setting in the client I had or it was it just needed a reset slap. |

Liana Khamsi
PIE Inc. Praetoria Imperialis Excubitoris
0
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Posted - 2013.06.05 18:33:00 -
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OS X 10.8.4
Model Name:MacBook Pro Model Identifier:MacBookPro6,2 Processor Name:Intel Core i7 Processor Speed:2.66 GHz
Number of Processors:1 Total Number of Cores:2 L2 Cache (per Core):256 KB L3 Cache:4 MB Memory:8 GB Processor Interconnect Speed:4.8 GT/s Boot ROM Version:MBP61.0057.B0F SMC Version (system):1.58f17 Chipset Model:NVIDIA GeForce GT 330M Type:GPU Bus:PCIe PCIe Lane Width:x16 VRAM (Total):512 MB
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Liana Khamsi
PIE Inc. Praetoria Imperialis Excubitoris
0
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Posted - 2013.06.05 18:45:00 -
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Snuskpelle wrote:Did the following:
I updated to 10.8.4 and tested. did not solve the problem.
Then I went to Reset Settings Tab. Reset to Default Window Positions Reset to Default Window Colors Clear All Settings.
Clients restarts. Probe Sphere did show. started moving around the probes a bit. back to same problem.
This did not work for me, either. |

Ammathi
Warteck Trading Co. The Big Dirty
1
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Posted - 2013.06.05 19:23:00 -
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mabook pro 17in 16gb ram nvidia 330m osx 10.8.3 2.53ghz i5
have tried all 3 optimize settings on graphics, to no avail, |

Ragashingo
Elixir Aeutet Corporation INFERNAL ALLIANCE
0
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Posted - 2013.06.05 22:36:00 -
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Mid 2009 MacBook Pro Processor 2.26 GHz Intel Core 2 Duo Memory 8 GB 1067 MHz DDR3 Graphics NVIDIA GeForce 9400M 256 MB Software OS X 10.8.4 (12E55)
I played around with different graphic settings but never got the range spheres to show up. Oddly everything was fine until I updated to OS X 10.8.4. So, at least for me, that may be a culprit. |

Ammathi
Warteck Trading Co. The Big Dirty
1
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Posted - 2013.06.05 23:03:00 -
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Well i tried downloading a clean new copy. But now eve launcher will not work... so ill see if i can do some of the hard workarounds. :( would love to play new content so hopefully things get back up and running. |

Ammathi
Warteck Trading Co. The Big Dirty
1
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Posted - 2013.06.06 00:29:00 -
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Ok so after several hrs i have gotten eve launched, by bypassing the launcher. eve-premium_008261_549507-mac.dmg downloaded today all eve library files and package deleted New Odyssey instal, and still the same issue, so reinstall did not seem to work for me. thanks for the reply dev and others, your time is appreciated. |
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matarkhan
ConHugeCo
37
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Posted - 2013.06.06 03:03:00 -
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Happening to me as well. Not bitching, just more data :]
13" MBP, 10.8.3, C2D 2.4, GeForce 320M 256MB
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Hjordis Bjorklund
The Scope Gallente Federation
0
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Posted - 2013.06.06 13:11:00 -
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Same problem, screenshot for reference: http://cl.ly/PQm0/o
MacBook Pro 15-inch, Mid 2010 Processor 2.4 GHz Intel Core i5 Memory 8 GB 1067 MHz DDR3 Graphics NVIDIA GeForce GT 330M 256 MB Software OS X 10.8.2 (12C60) |

Botir Khan
Aliastra Gallente Federation
0
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Posted - 2013.06.06 13:17:00 -
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Same problem but something else of interest regarding it: The probe spheres appeared as normal for about the first half hour of gameplay, then upon entering another system, they no longer appeared. The strange thing is that they appear fine on another account I have. Same mac, same client, just different account.
Have tried: -clearing cache -resetting settings -all graphics settings -different ships -different systems
Nothing working so far, and can't understand why two different accounts on same mac would have different results but it may help identify the problem.
Sys specs: Model: iMac (21.5 in, Late 2009) Proc: 3.06 GHz Intel Core 2 Duo Memory: 4GB 1067 MHz DDR3 Graphics: NVIDIA GeForce 9400 256 MB Software: OS X 10.8.4 |

Snuskpelle
Imperial Academy Amarr Empire
7
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Posted - 2013.06.06 13:56:00 -
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Botir Khan wrote:Same problem but something else of interest regarding it: The probe spheres appeared as normal for about the first half hour of gameplay, then upon entering another system, they no longer appeared. The strange thing is that they appear fine on another account I have. Same mac, same client, just different account.
Have tried: -clearing cache -resetting settings -all graphics settings -different ships -different systems
Nothing working so far, and can't understand why two different accounts on same mac would have different results but it may help identify the problem.
Sys specs: Model: iMac (21.5 in, Late 2009) Proc: 3.06 GHz Intel Core 2 Duo Memory: 4GB 1067 MHz DDR3 Graphics: NVIDIA GeForce 9400 256 MB Software: OS X 10.8.4
I noticed some strange behaviour too. after resetting everything the probes showed, then I loaded my overview settings. puff gone. so I reseted again. but this time reset had no effect. maybe the overview loading had no effect and it was some time based issue too. |

Snuskpelle
Imperial Academy Amarr Empire
7
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Posted - 2013.06.07 06:33:00 -
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Any updates on the topic? are we going to get som reimbursment for not being able to participate in the exploration game? Exploration was my main income source. Now I'm crippled. Give us at least a status or timeline! |

giles666
Fluid Starlines
0
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Posted - 2013.06.07 12:59:00 -
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I am having this issue as well. Tried resetting settings and various different graphics settings but nothing helps. Makes exploration almost unplayable.
MacBook Pro 15-inch, Mid 2010 Processor 2.66 GHz Intel Core i7 Memory 16 GB 1067 MHz DDR3 Graphics NVIDIA GeForce GT 330M 256 MB Software OS X 10.8.3 |

Ammathi
Warteck Trading Co. The Big Dirty
1
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Posted - 2013.06.07 16:10:00 -
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Snuskpelle wrote:Any updates on the topic? are we going to get som reimbursment for not being able to participate in the exploration game? Exploration was my main income source. Now I'm crippled. Give us at least a status or timeline!
Just bumping this again, very excited to keep doing the explo sites and hoping for a fix. I have since noticed strange issues as well, probes were visible for about 10 secs. as soon as i tried to move them they disappear again, and couldn't seem to get them back. Very odd behavior, but this is crippling, cant navigate the map because its very difficult to orient yourself/probes without the ability to see them. |

Envie Nothernlight
Breath of Amenra
0
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Posted - 2013.06.07 17:42:00 -
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same issue here. Any updates ? |

Baphomet MoonRyder
Aquila Culebra
0
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Posted - 2013.06.07 19:01:00 -
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Same exact issue as all above. PLease help us. |

Ragashingo
Elixir Aeutet Corporation INFERNAL ALLIANCE
0
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Posted - 2013.06.07 22:55:00 -
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Here's an interesting data point. This morning, without me changing any settings, it was working correctly. I scanned down a couple of sites then left for work. This afternoon, again without changing any settings, it is again broken. So whatever it is, at least in my case, it's not directly linked to turning up or down or on or off a graphic setting. |
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AllSavage
X Industrial
0
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Posted - 2013.06.08 13:19:00 -
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Bump.
I'm working around it for now with dexterous guesswork - but it's clunky and hit and miss.
I'm on a late 08 MacBook. Been broken since odyssey landed. |

Baphomet MoonRyder
Aquila Culebra
0
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Posted - 2013.06.08 15:47:00 -
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Funny how the new exploration expansion stripped me of exploration options. |

Botir Khan
Aliastra Gallente Federation
0
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Posted - 2013.06.08 17:59:00 -
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Botir Khan wrote:Same problem but something else of interest regarding it: The probe spheres appeared as normal for about the first half hour of gameplay, then upon entering another system, they no longer appeared. The strange thing is that they appear fine on another account I have. Same mac, same client, just different account.
Have tried: -clearing cache -resetting settings -all graphics settings -different ships -different systems
Nothing working so far, and can't understand why two different accounts on same mac would have different results but it may help identify the problem.
Sys specs: Model: iMac (21.5 in, Late 2009) Proc: 3.06 GHz Intel Core 2 Duo Memory: 4GB 1067 MHz DDR3 Graphics: NVIDIA GeForce 9400 256 MB Software: OS X 10.8.4
Update: Logged on Friday June 7th: no problems with probes, everything worked fine for entire day. Logged on today, Saturday June 8th: probes no longer working. Nothing has been changed on my end. I had assumed that CCP had made some adjustments but maybe not? Need some resolution to this problem please, or at least let us know what is being done. |

AllSavage
X Industrial
0
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Posted - 2013.06.08 18:30:00 -
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Baphomet MoonRyder wrote:Funny how the new exploration expansion stripped me of exploration options.
Yea it's not really acceptable to be honest - it's pretty game breaking.
I also had a hard time tracking this post down, I imagine this thread isn't very representative of the size of the issue - is it maybe a mac-wide bug? |

Fallax Nexhawk
Center for Advanced Studies Gallente Federation
1
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Posted - 2013.06.09 03:05:00 -
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I've started having the same issue beginning from June 6th; on June 5th everything was working normally yet. |

Ander Fred
Kenshin.
0
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Posted - 2013.06.09 04:02:00 -
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They're there, it's not a graphical issue in that the computer is incapable of rendering them. They are however very faint and the entirely wrong size. There game 'object' is there, since you can move them and resize their radius, it's just not showing correctly. When you press scan they show up correctly for a very short time (<1/5th second) and then go back to them again. Trying to explain how it looks, it looks like they're rendering in the background of the map view and way out of size.
Screenshot: http://eve-files.com/dl/262966 |

Terra Rebell
Vodka Shots Inc. United Lions
0
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Posted - 2013.06.09 12:16:00 -
[37] - Quote
Ander Fred wrote:They're there, it's not a graphical issue in that the computer is incapable of rendering them. They are however very faint and the entirely wrong size. There game 'object' is there, since you can move them and resize their radius, it's just not showing correctly. When you press scan they show up correctly for a very short time (<1/5th second) and then go back to them again. Trying to explain how it looks, it looks like they're rendering in the background of the map view and way out of size. Screenshot: http://eve-files.com/dl/262966
Same thing happends to me, seems to be an all round mac problem atm.... Life in WH space aint easy atm :D |

AllSavage
X Industrial
0
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Posted - 2013.06.09 12:37:00 -
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Ander Fred wrote:They're there, it's not a graphical issue in that the computer is incapable of rendering them. They are however very faint and the entirely wrong size. There game 'object' is there, since you can move them and resize their radius, it's just not showing correctly. When you press scan they show up correctly for a very short time (<1/5th second) and then go back to them again. Trying to explain how it looks, it looks like they're rendering in the background of the map view and way out of size. Screenshot: http://eve-files.com/dl/262966
Described better than me, but that's a good summary.
Any update from a dev?? |

Snuskpelle
Imperial Academy Amarr Empire
8
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Posted - 2013.06.09 21:37:00 -
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strange thing... my main scanner alt has the problem. my other char with no so high skills and only using a core probe launcher can scan normaly. same computer. |

giles666
Fluid Starlines
0
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Posted - 2013.06.10 02:42:00 -
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This issue is really strange.
The last four times I have logged in it has worked twice and not worked twice.
Same setting, same character, same ship, same bloody everything.
Trying to pinpoint what the issue is incredibly frustrating.
Would be nice to hear from CCP how they are going working on the issue!!! |
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Ragashingo
Elixir Aeutet Corporation INFERNAL ALLIANCE
0
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Posted - 2013.06.10 03:17:00 -
[41] - Quote
Strange indeed. I just had it working, restarted without touching anything, and it was broken again. I'd try and reproduce it working / not working but I have no idea what could have changed in the minute it took to restart the gameGÇȘ |

Ander Fred
Kenshin.
1
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Posted - 2013.06.10 13:10:00 -
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Confirmed as NOT a graphics driver glitch. The issue APPEARS to be with the presets. It was the 'launch pinpoint' button that caused it on mine during an experimental session, but ONLY after a certain set of circumstances, the likes of which I'll be trying to reproduce now. Wall Of Text to come. |

Ander Fred
Kenshin.
1
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Posted - 2013.06.10 13:28:00 -
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Fitted Core Probe Launcher I to Helios, 8 core probes Undocked Jumped to Muvolailen Wait for system scan to finish Break cloak and move Bring up DScan Switch to probe scan No sigs to scan, so move to Annaro Sigs in Annaro, DScan has not been closed Break cloak Launch probes F10 to map view, it's in star view, switch to solar Probes are showing Minimise map control Scale probes in, press scan Change to poinpoint formation, move map view, move probes to be over the point Scan Adjust viewpoint, position, scale probes by dragging the sphere Scan Move probes, adjust view. Scale stays the same (I changed targets) Adjust viewpoint, position, scale probes by the Probe Scanner interface (0.5AU) Scan Result locked. Recall probes by clicking recover in the interface. Ctrl-R to reload. Launch probes again. They show as being in the exact same place they were when I recalled them. Press scan, they warp to and scan. Recall and reload probes Warp to station and dock Undock Launch probes, they again assume the position and scale they were last in Recall probes, crtl-r to reload, warp to next gate (Isutka) Wait for system scan. Sigs found. Decloak by speeding up (map is still open in solar view) and launch probes. Probes show fine They've launched in pinpoint format, same scale as before, not sure of same position. Will have to try and find a way to test this. Move, rescale, adjust viewpoint Scan Repeat till lock, all found, all fine. Time to play with buttons Click 'launch in spread formation' Works fine Spam between spread and pinpoint, works fine Resize ONE probe to max and drag it out of formation ---Lost connection here--- Press Esc->logoff. EVE has now gone spastic and is replicating, so close all instances of EVE (including 2nd client, made using clonemaker) 2nd doesn't want to quit and has to be crashed. Launch just the testing account. Takes a bit longer than usual but fires up fine. Log in and enter as test character. DScan is still up, reconnect to probes. F10 to map, all probes are now 32 AU and maladjusted (PIC: ET1) Press scan, works fine Press 'pinpoint formation': ERROR! Bug produced. Exit map view Recall probes Click launch spread Load probes by right click (since crash removed the ability to reload) Press Launch pinpoint, error still present Press launch spread, error still present Recover probes. Log off. Log in, select different toon on same account Undock, jump to Osmon from Jita to pick up the frig. Noticed a combat site in Jita... Dock up in Osmon, switch to ship. Expanded launcher and core probes. Undock. Click probes to launch, F10 for map view. Bring up Dscan. Error is present. No further testing possible.
Things to note: 2 clients running via the clonemaker. Client 2 had the bug first, but client 1 was unaffected. However, characters on the same account share the bug. This should hopefully narrow things down. My first guess here would be looking at where the probe location info to keep them in the same place/size is stored. I'll try some file deleting and see where it gets me. |

Ander Fred
Kenshin. Against ALL Authorities
1
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Posted - 2013.06.10 14:36:00 -
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Can confirm cache manipulation removes the error. Will work on exactly what tomorrow. Bug report filed pointing to the post. |

Snuskpelle
Imperial Academy Amarr Empire
8
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Posted - 2013.06.10 15:26:00 -
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why are we even posting here.. the Dev's have abandoned this thread. fixing career starter missions has priority.  |

Ammathi
Warteck Trading Co. The Big Dirty
3
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Posted - 2013.06.10 18:46:00 -
[46] - Quote
Just another bump on this, same issues as described above, sometimes they work, sometimes not, thanks for all who are trying to pinpoint this. |

Vincent Athena
V.I.C.E. Aegis Solaris
1953
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Posted - 2013.06.10 23:07:00 -
[47] - Quote
Does anyone using 10.7.x or less have this problem? Or is it limited to 10.8.x? http://vincentoneve.wordpress.com/ |

Ander Fred
Kenshin. Against ALL Authorities
1
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Posted - 2013.06.11 00:04:00 -
[48] - Quote
Ander Fred wrote:Can confirm cache manipulation removes the error. Will work on exactly what tomorrow. Bug report filed pointing to the post.
Ok scrap that. Must have been something else, cos no matter what I do now I can't remove this bug. Wiped cache, new clones, still same problem. Without a way to reverse this I can't do any more work on producing it. One question though, did anyone have the bug FROM LAUNCH. As in the very first time they scanned, it was ALREADY bugged? |

Fallax Nexhawk
Center for Advanced Studies Gallente Federation
1
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Posted - 2013.06.11 01:41:00 -
[49] - Quote
Ander Fred wrote:Ander Fred wrote:Can confirm cache manipulation removes the error. Will work on exactly what tomorrow. Bug report filed pointing to the post. Ok scrap that. Must have been something else, cos no matter what I do now I can't remove this bug. Wiped cache, new clones, still same problem. Without a way to reverse this I can't do any more work on producing it. One question though, did anyone have the bug FROM LAUNCH. As in the very first time they scanned, it was ALREADY bugged?
Strangely enough, I didn't have this problem on the 5th, when I first played EVE after Odyssey deployment. On the next day, however, my probe spheres have disappeared and haven't appeared ever since. |

Ammathi
Warteck Trading Co. The Big Dirty
3
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Posted - 2013.06.11 03:28:00 -
[50] - Quote
confirmed day 1 issues here. loaded odyssey and had the issue, first thing i did when i logged was try to scan the new sites, leading to this forum post :( |
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giles666
Fluid Starlines
0
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Posted - 2013.06.11 13:02:00 -
[51] - Quote
Ander Fred wrote:Ander Fred wrote:Can confirm cache manipulation removes the error. Will work on exactly what tomorrow. Bug report filed pointing to the post. Ok scrap that. Must have been something else, cos no matter what I do now I can't remove this bug. Wiped cache, new clones, still same problem. Without a way to reverse this I can't do any more work on producing it. One question though, did anyone have the bug FROM LAUNCH. As in the very first time they scanned, it was ALREADY bugged?
I had the bug day one, however since then it has been intermittently on and off with probes not working about 75% of the time.
I haven't yet been able to work out what causes it to work or not. As far as I can tell it is completely random. |

r1kk1
EVE University Ivy League
1
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Posted - 2013.06.12 08:35:00 -
[52] - Quote
+1 here too
MacBook Pro 15-inch, Mid 2010 Processor 2.66 GHz Intel Core i7 Memory 4 GB 1067 MHz DDR3 Graphics NVIDIA GeForce GT 330M 512 MB Software OS X 10.8.3 (12D78)
again seems intermittent, was working before and comes and goes. get that fraction of a second of them drawn properly and then gone again. |

Laris Orwan
Bio-Net Systems
57
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Posted - 2013.06.12 20:29:00 -
[53] - Quote
Same problem for me... MacBook but I'm still on 10.8.3!!
Come one CCP this isn't fair on us mac guys is it?
:( |

Ammathi
Warteck Trading Co. The Big Dirty
3
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Posted - 2013.06.13 06:23:00 -
[54] - Quote
Still no update?.. Please give us something devs, this is quite a frustrating bug to have going on with the expansion that is all about exploration. |

Ander Fred
Kenshin. Against ALL Authorities
1
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Posted - 2013.06.13 08:12:00 -
[55] - Quote
Well what we *can* say for sure is that the probes do draw for a fraction of a second when you press the scan button. So that gives the devs a place to start looking. That coupled with my finding on the probe position button may help. |

r1kk1
EVE University Ivy League
1
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Posted - 2013.06.13 20:56:00 -
[56] - Quote
r1kk1 wrote:+1 here too
MacBook Pro 15-inch, Mid 2010 Processor 2.66 GHz Intel Core i7 Memory 4 GB 1067 MHz DDR3 Graphics NVIDIA GeForce GT 330M 512 MB Software OS X 10.8.3 (12D78)
again seems intermittent, was working before and comes and goes. get that fraction of a second of them drawn properly and then gone again.
interestingly, i just installed 10.9 to test and it doesn't seem to be present there on the same machine. |

Ander Fred
Kenshin. Against ALL Authorities
1
|
Posted - 2013.06.14 01:47:00 -
[57] - Quote
Can you make it happen though? |

Zeus Zed
Federal Navy Academy Gallente Federation
1
|
Posted - 2013.06.15 20:40:00 -
[58] - Quote
I too have the same problem on my mac pro 10.8.4 NVIDIA 285GTX
Never experienced anything like that before Odyssey, so it's a ****-up from CCP's side.
Please fix it asap - exploration is THE thing for Odyssey and we can't play. |

Spacemover
Cathouse Club The Kadeshi
2
|
Posted - 2013.06.17 20:02:00 -
[59] - Quote
worked fine yesterday, is not working today...
ingamesettings https://docs.google.com/file/d/0B16KO9JjfSbnOFdxQUZpNE5RdGs/edit?usp=sharing
mac book information https://docs.google.com/file/d/0B16KO9JjfSbnOVdWX2dBaXZWZGs/edit?usp=sharing
tried clear cache stuff, mac client repair, graphicsettingsfaceroll, nothing is working. |

Hjordis Bjorklund
The Scope Gallente Federation
0
|
Posted - 2013.06.17 22:38:00 -
[60] - Quote
Getting OSX 10.9 this week to test with and come on CCP. Why isn't this getting awareness? At least give us an update. It's been two weeks already. It's game breaking! |
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Botir Khan
Aliastra Gallente Federation
0
|
Posted - 2013.06.18 00:47:00 -
[61] - Quote
No updates. No responses. No info. Irresponsible at this point. Certainly not what I pay for monthly. Especially since exploration is my main activity on eve. |

Ammathi
Warteck Trading Co. The Big Dirty
3
|
Posted - 2013.06.18 08:12:00 -
[62] - Quote
Anyone having this issue not on an nvidia graphics card? Possible issue with it as it seems this is maybe a common link here? On the note of no response.... Ill bump and agree again, come on CCP lots of us really excited to play this new content, it would be great to at least hear a we are still looking at this. |

Spacemover
Cathouse Club The Kadeshi
2
|
Posted - 2013.06.18 12:37:00 -
[63] - Quote
are there any mac-Šs without nvidia? sry haven-Št looked up mac-Šs since 2010 
if ccp doesn-Št want to answer in here perhaps a little petition storm may help  |

r1kk1
EVE University Ivy League
1
|
Posted - 2013.06.18 16:27:00 -
[64] - Quote
its mostly mac pro's that have ATI card options but there are very few of them.
issue persists with todays patch |

Zeus Zed
Federal Navy Academy Gallente Federation
3
|
Posted - 2013.06.18 20:18:00 -
[65] - Quote
Someone pointed out that the problem is because launched probes are sorted by remaining time, and that if you sort by probe name then all probes are shown in space no problem.
I wanted to try that but I can't see any way to sort the probes...
Screen from my MacPro 10.8.4 |

Hjordis Bjorklund
The Scope Gallente Federation
0
|
Posted - 2013.06.19 11:03:00 -
[66] - Quote
So i've tweeted CCP Rhodes (DEV who posted earlier in this topic) and got this response: http://cl.ly/Pivs
I guess the only thing we can do is wait and try to help by giving as much information as we can. I've got the 10.9 installer here but have to wait 2 weeks before I can install it. (Graduation exams, can't have my mac bugging on me) |

Aina Tutusaus
Hedion University Amarr Empire
0
|
Posted - 2013.06.19 23:15:00 -
[67] - Quote
Same problem here with an Imac early 2009 running 10.8.
Someone got a workarround that bug? Or got why the bug is intermitent?
Thanks! |

Vincent Athena
V.I.C.E. Aegis Solaris
1977
|
Posted - 2013.06.19 23:37:00 -
[68] - Quote
Aina Tutusaus wrote:Same problem here with an Imac early 2009 running 10.8.
Someone got a workarround that bug? Or got why the bug is intermitent?
Thanks! Use OSX 10.7.x? As far as I can tell its a 10.8.x issue. http://vincentoneve.wordpress.com/ |

Aina Tutusaus
Hedion University Amarr Empire
0
|
Posted - 2013.06.20 16:23:00 -
[69] - Quote
Vincent Athena wrote: Use OSX 10.7.x? As far as I can tell its a 10.8.x issue.
Yeah I have thought about that but I thing I cannot demote the OS wothout formating the full HD. |

Spacemover
Cathouse Club The Kadeshi
2
|
Posted - 2013.06.21 15:22:00 -
[70] - Quote
it-Šs really strange, 2 daily patches later it worked i thought "great they solved it" (wednesday scanning worked all day for me). now i tried and again it doesn-Št. this together with the new requirements for playing eve on mac is a bad thing for playing eve on my macbook. i got a old pentium4 from 2000-i-don-Št-know which i will try to get to work on tuesday, my macbook feels like a heating plate these days with eve -.- |
|

Baphomet MoonRyder
Aquila Culebra
1
|
Posted - 2013.06.22 15:27:00 -
[71] - Quote
They won't even respond to my support tickets. Open since the 11th. haha. **** this broken game. |

Nabuch Sattva
The Green Cross Get in the Van.
7
|
Posted - 2013.06.22 16:38:00 -
[72] - Quote
Same problem here Macbook Pro late 2009.
Was working fine till the 21st then today I undock launch probes and click the PINPOINT formation before i use the spread, which is what I had been doing. Can't see probe spheres on map. I am able to scan sites down. I see the probe green lines when i move the group of probes so i can tell where sphere center is. I resized probes by moving mouse until mouse pointer changes shape.
When i get to the relic site, can icon that i have to analise is filled in (white color) instead of the outline of the diamond. Other than that normal behavior.
Restarted client same problem. |

Aina Tutusaus
Hedion University Amarr Empire
0
|
Posted - 2013.06.23 09:24:00 -
[73] - Quote
Yesterday the proves worked for me, all the day. This morning they are messed again... Someone has tested things and has some clue of what is causing this error? Maybe rebooting the computter changes it's display? Restarting the game solved the problem for someone? Or changing some in game settings?
The best thing we can do is try to find a solution by ourselves... |

Admiral Nagumo
Triton Project
0
|
Posted - 2013.06.23 17:50:00 -
[74] - Quote
I am still having these issues. It sometimes work with no problem, and other times doesnt even if i restart client, flush cache, restart OSX. IIRC it worked best after third build after the expansion. I have learnt how to scan without them showing but it's slowing me down.
Hopefully this will be fixed this summerGÇȘ |

Hjordis Bjorklund
The Scope Gallente Federation
0
|
Posted - 2013.06.25 16:15:00 -
[75] - Quote
Alright this seems to work for me:
1. Start EVE 2. Clear all cache files at the login screen 3. Login on your scanning account or main w/e
Tried swapping accounts without clearing afterwards, that didn't work. But if I clear all cache files every time at the login screen before switching accounts it seems to work.
This brings it down to a caching problem?
Edit:
I'm on a macbook pro 2010, 330m 256. |

Rosslyn Lux
Rainbow Commune
0
|
Posted - 2013.06.25 20:25:00 -
[76] - Quote
I followed Hjordis' instructions without success.
OSX 10.8.4 with Nvidia 285 GTX. |

Ander Fred
Kenshin. Against ALL Authorities
1
|
Posted - 2013.06.26 09:53:00 -
[77] - Quote
Tried utterly destroying the cache, that didn't fix it |

Nabuch Sattva
The Green Cross
7
|
Posted - 2013.06.27 02:29:00 -
[78] - Quote
Update: On the 24th, monday it was working again after patch. Today the 26th after new daily patch it's not working again... Maybe just a coincidence.
CCP? |

Hjordis Bjorklund
The Scope Gallente Federation
0
|
Posted - 2013.06.27 13:14:00 -
[79] - Quote
soo yeahh... my fix didn't work today.. WHAT IS CAUSING THIS?! |

Vincent Athena
V.I.C.E. Aegis Solaris
1998
|
Posted - 2013.06.27 16:20:00 -
[80] - Quote
Anyone with this bug care to try these procedures?
http://gigaom.com/2011/07/26/when-to-reset-your-macs-pram-and-smc/
http://vincentoneve.wordpress.com/ |
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Aina Tutusaus
Hedion University Amarr Empire
0
|
Posted - 2013.06.27 17:13:00 -
[81] - Quote
Some days ago I got some problems while booting my computter and I had to erase this memory using this process. Nothing changed as today I'm still having the bug.
Maybe someone else can try also, this proces only resets some internal memory and nothing really happens to your computter, so you loose nothing trying.
BTW, no responses from CCP? |

Snuskpelle
Imperial Academy Amarr Empire
9
|
Posted - 2013.06.27 20:10:00 -
[82] - Quote
problem still there... lots of people affected... support tickets get closed after like 20 days without any help at all... no communication... no appoligies....
CCP = worst customer support ever. I don't expect a magic solution. I understand some problems might be tricky to reproduce and fix. But it is no excuse for the horrible communication shown by CCP. |

Whackx
Republic Military School Minmatar Republic
0
|
Posted - 2013.06.28 12:32:00 -
[83] - Quote
Same problem on my Macbook 5,1 with a Nvidia 9400m. No Problem on my Mac Mini wit a Radeon HD6330M. |

Hjordis Bjorklund
The Scope Gallente Federation
0
|
Posted - 2013.06.29 13:46:00 -
[84] - Quote
Weirdest thing just happend: The problem fixed itself in game.. No idea how though I remember: docking at Jita, cmd tabbing a ton, jumping towards Osmon, searching for some systems on the way, saw a few signatures, released the probes and boom... |

V'Kani Yuboor
The Scope Gallente Federation
0
|
Posted - 2013.06.29 16:13:00 -
[85] - Quote
I still got the problem...its gamebreaking for me. I wanted to train explorer using Drones heavily. I really hope they fix this... |

Nabuch Sattva
The Green Cross Spaceship Samurai
7
|
Posted - 2013.07.01 15:04:00 -
[86] - Quote
Update: The bug appears sometimes and sometimes it doesn't. It seems like every time a launch the game and go straight to exploration the bug shows up. But when I've been playing for a while and then i hop in to my scanning ship it works. This might be a complete coincidence though.
Also, when I have the bug, and I click scan, sometimes the probe spheres flicker on for a second.
I have received a reply from a GM that they are aware of the issue, and asked people to go through bug reporting it to help them out. |

V'Kani Yuboor
Eagles of Wenin
0
|
Posted - 2013.07.01 15:14:00 -
[87] - Quote
I can confirm tha flickery thing i have that too. Bug is still there though, nothing has changed. CCP responding onto this would be really nice.... |

Aina Tutusaus
Ministry of War Amarr Empire
1
|
Posted - 2013.07.01 23:34:00 -
[88] - Quote
The problem persists today. This evening was working right, this night the bug was there again. Tried the next with no results:
- Log into the game into a station (with a combat ship active) - Pick up my exploration ship and undock - Jump to the next system to find some anomalies - Launch proves, don't work - Return to home system, pick up a lvl 1 quest and activate the combat ship - Jump to the quest system and complete it, return to station - Pick up exploration ship and go back to the system with anomalies - Launch drones, bug present - Go to bed
No clue how why this bug is intermitent yet. |

Hjordis Bjorklund
The Scope Gallente Federation
1
|
Posted - 2013.07.02 14:32:00 -
[89] - Quote
I've learned to probe without the spheres, thinking about making a video for you guys this weekend. |

Aina Tutusaus
Ministry of War Amarr Empire
1
|
Posted - 2013.07.05 21:58:00 -
[90] - Quote
Bug... again... I want to cry.
I can't find any solution and no way to find WHY it happens only sometimes. Changed ships, fitting, procedures to log in, log out, undock several times... nothing.
Maybe it will be solved witht the changes comming the 10th July. I don't even dare to dream... |
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Psylens
Aliastra Gallente Federation
0
|
Posted - 2013.07.10 17:32:00 -
[91] - Quote
Hello. I have been having this problem for some time and wasn't aware of this forum discussion until now. I wasn't getting anywhere with the bug report/petition, so they pointed me to this discussion.
My probes started showing up for the first time in a couple weeks yesterday when i was probing and messing with my graphics settings. After reading these posts, i'm wondering if it was just random chance, as this appears to be randomly intermittent.
But anyways here is what i was doing when they started working again, in case it's meaningful:
A complete Uninstall/reinstall did not fix it, but that was something i did along the way. I think it was due to either changing all my video settings or actually scanning down a site all the way by blindly clicking around to locate a sphere's edge and resizing. Resizing the probes from the list instead of the globe edges seems to just resize them and not reposition them proportionately. After scanning down a site blindly like this, and arriving at the site, i changed my video settings to 'optimized for performance', then i set all settings to Low or Medium, then i did a reset of all video settings. The next time i went to scan, i could see the globes...
Hope this helps. |
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CCP Paradox
906

|
Posted - 2013.07.11 14:23:00 -
[92] - Quote
First of all, let me apologize in the lack of communication. Second, a fix is on its way to you.
I'll explain a little bit so you know why it took while to come to the fix. First, thanks for the bug reports and information on the forum. Without them we would have been much more lost. The issue in question is related to a driver issue on OSX 10.8.x for NVIDIA cards (only 9400/9600 series as far as we could tell).
Our Mac development partner over at TransGaming has helped identify the issue, and will be integrating a fix into EVE to workaround this driver issue after it has gone through the usual QA process.
As for when this fix will be released onto Tranquility I do not yet know. But I will post back in this thread to let you know, as soon as I know.
Thanks!
CCP Paradox | EVE Quality Assurance | Team Super Friends @CCP_Paradox |
|

Vincent Athena
V.I.C.E. Aegis Solaris
2017
|
Posted - 2013.07.11 15:01:00 -
[93] - Quote
Thanks for working on this. But this entire affair reminds me of a old joke.
A man goes to the doctor and hold up his arm. "Doctor it hurts whenever I do this". "Well then don't do that".
CCP to players "It is hard to fix bugs and takes a long time because we need to use cider to get eve to run on a Mac". 'Well then make eve run on a Mac without cider". http://vincentoneve.wordpress.com/ |

Aina Tutusaus
EVE University Ivy League
2
|
Posted - 2013.07.11 21:58:00 -
[94] - Quote
Thanks for the updating Paradox.
I don't know if it will be of use, but the bug persist after the patch of the 10th July.
To Psylens, I'm going to try changing ghaprhs as you say, lets se if I can reproduce the procedure. |

Utremi Fasolasi
The Jagged Edge Rebel Alliance of New Eden
263
|
Posted - 2013.07.12 02:38:00 -
[95] - Quote
I have a bug report in with NVIDIA GeForce 8800 GT 512 MB on OS X 10.8. So it's not just one series. |

Freedom Hughes
129th Royal Caldari Navy Advanced Combine of Miners and Explorers
0
|
Posted - 2013.07.12 13:31:00 -
[96] - Quote
This is so ridiculous I am at a loss for words. I have had the same problem (no blue spheres showing). I had it resolved and then come back twice now. I am not sure what is happening but the people over at EVE HQ better get their S$%# together before they lose players. What are we paying for exactly? A buggy/totally inconsistent game? Great. No really, take your time fixing this. It's been about a month now. With no compensation. What a joke. |

Amphetamine Toxine
Amarr Wardens
6
|
Posted - 2013.07.12 15:46:00 -
[97] - Quote
CCP Paradox wrote:First of all, let me apologize in the lack of communication. Second, a fix is on its way to you.
I'll explain a little bit so you know why it took while to come to the fix. First, thanks for the bug reports and information on the forum. Without them we would have been much more lost. The issue in question is related to a driver issue on OSX 10.8.x for NVIDIA cards (only 9400/9600 series as far as we could tell).
Our Mac development partner over at TransGaming has helped identify the issue, and will be integrating a fix into EVE to workaround this driver issue after it has gone through the usual QA process.
As for when this fix will be released onto Tranquility I do not yet know. But I will post back in this thread to let you know, as soon as I know.
Thanks!
Troubles are back again (was working for like... 2 or 3 weeks without trouble), since the 10th July patch.
Nvidia GeForce GT 330M OS X 10.8.4 |

Peter Grayson
Vice Legion
2
|
Posted - 2013.07.13 19:18:00 -
[98] - Quote
No sphere probes here too, on an imac 2,93 GHz Intel Core 2 Duo (early 2009) Mac osx 10.8.2 > Nvidia GT120 |

Snuskpelle
Imperial Academy Amarr Empire
10
|
Posted - 2013.07.15 19:40:00 -
[99] - Quote
Finally an update... was that so hard? You could have posted an update once a week or at least post an official news message instead of just letting us wait without any form of information. Anyway I hope the patch will work. |

Liana Khamsi
PIE Inc. Praetoria Imperialis Excubitoris
2
|
Posted - 2013.07.19 17:18:00 -
[100] - Quote
Issue showed up again when I downloaded the new launcher. |
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Silvetar Jones
The Amber Corporation
0
|
Posted - 2013.07.24 17:36:00 -
[101] - Quote
I'm still broken (no blue spheres). Anybody fixed yet?
Thanks |

Snuskpelle
Imperial Academy Amarr Empire
10
|
Posted - 2013.08.01 12:15:00 -
[102] - Quote
WHERE IS THE FIX???? |

Nabuch Sattva
The Green Cross Spaceship Samurai
11
|
Posted - 2013.08.07 01:26:00 -
[103] - Quote
So... is the problem back or was there never a fix. A couple weeks back I was able to scan normally again. Then corp deployed for PVP and now, 2 weeks later, I'm back hunting sites, i can't see the friggin probes again :(
any ETA at all on the fix? |

EXTERMINATOR 17
Viperfleet Inc. Transmission Lost
0
|
Posted - 2013.08.12 19:45:00 -
[104] - Quote
Mac Pro user Dual core 2,8Mhz OSX 10.8.4
since today i see no more probes, i logged in after DT and everything was still ok. I logged off for a few hours and came back online,... and then the problem occurred. I didn't update or change any settings during my logged of time.
Is someone working on this problem? I see its been a bug for some time now. Hope it gets resolved soon. Its no fun flying thru wh space like this. |

Rosslyn Lux
Rainbow Commune
0
|
Posted - 2013.08.24 08:46:00 -
[105] - Quote
I see this announcement:
PROBE SCANNING IMPROVEMENTS IN ODYSSEY 1.1 http://community.eveonline.com/news/dev-blogs/probe-scanning-iteration/
I just want to be able to see the probes. |

Utremi Fasolasi
La Dolce Vita
268
|
Posted - 2013.08.28 15:52:00 -
[106] - Quote
The spheres were back for me yesterday while I was scanning about.
Hope it sticks! |

Vincent Athena
V.I.C.E. Aegis Solaris
2142
|
Posted - 2013.08.28 16:27:00 -
[107] - Quote
Has anyone with 10.8.x checked out Sisi to see if it got fixed?
I asked about this issue in the 1.1 thread that mentioned scanning improvements, and a Dev said it was a Cider issue. But no new information on a fix was forthcoming. http://vincentoneve.wordpress.com/ |

Rykah
Dynakinetics Synchrodyne
0
|
Posted - 2013.08.29 01:44:00 -
[108] - Quote
This is ridiculous, it's months since Odyssey came out, 1.1 is due next week and STILL NO FIX.
It works in Wine on the mac (but Wine is much harder to setup for non-techies)
But the point is, if it works in Wine, it shouldn't be that hard for TransGaming to figure out what changed in their code - at least not 2 months worth of waiting and only 1 dev comment in that time.
But we all know why - cos CCP don't give a crap about Mac, it's such a small market share why would they?
I predict the end of a supported Mac client in the same way the Linux client disappeared - it all just seems to hard for them for not enough return. |

Rosslyn Lux
Rainbow Commune
0
|
Posted - 2013.09.03 19:08:00 -
[109] - Quote
Probes are still missing after installing 1.1 |

Newt On
Haus Acnologia
1
|
Posted - 2013.09.04 16:51:00 -
[110] - Quote
No sphere probes here too, on an imac 2,93 GHz Intel Core 2 Duo (early 2009) Mac osx 10.8.4 > Nvidia GT120
it's not funny..... :-) Gro+e Dinge fangen klein an |
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Sophy Millesime
Center for Advanced Studies Gallente Federation
0
|
Posted - 2013.09.06 05:24:00 -
[111] - Quote
Same here just join eve online and did the 2 week trial first. Saw sphere first time I did training a few days in trial like 3 weeks ago. I have not seen them since. I somehow manage to resize sphere by scanning and positioning cursor where I could see them during scanning (Kind of cumbersome and take practice but somewhat feasible). Overall this is very frustrating. Did take a 3 months membership but not planning to renew if this does not get resolved.
Tech Info: - Macbook Pro 15 inch Mid 2010 - Mountain Lion 10.8.4 - 2.4 GHz Intel Core i5 - 4 GB 1067 MHz DDR3 - NVIDIA GeForce GT 330M 256 MB
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Rykah
Dynakinetics Synchrodyne
0
|
Posted - 2013.09.06 07:13:00 -
[112] - Quote
I had spheres yesterday, they're gone again today...
*sigh*
As previously mentioned, they work fine under WINE - no dice under Cider. |

Utremi Fasolasi
La Dolce Vita
268
|
Posted - 2013.09.07 03:59:00 -
[113] - Quote
So far so good for me with Odyssey 1.1. |

Druthlen
Republic Military School Minmatar Republic
5
|
Posted - 2013.09.14 11:06:00 -
[114] - Quote
+1 I have this problem. |

Ichitomo Kane
Red Federation RvB - RED Federation
1
|
Posted - 2013.09.15 11:22:00 -
[115] - Quote
Not fixed for me.
And did anyone notice that they apparently helped 2 people who were having a slow down in their client? Where is CCP Sledgehammer when you need him? There are a lot of us in here and this is a really long-standing problem.
It was in the this week in Eve Issue #11. Here is the thread: https://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=posts&m=3596620#post3596620 |

Sobek Nospmoht
Promethean Society Codec Forum
0
|
Posted - 2013.09.15 15:18:00 -
[116] - Quote
I suppose my posting here is redundant at this point, but another +1 that I have this problem. Been monitoring this thread for a while.
Looking forward to a CCP solution, and thanks to the team that is working on this. Anxious though, this makes WH life completely unlivable unless I depend completely on corp bookmarks... which doesn't work when I'm alone! |

Rykah
Dynakinetics Synchrodyne
0
|
Posted - 2013.09.19 10:20:00 -
[117] - Quote
I got bored of waiting.
Download MacPorts, install wine-devel, install Eve Online Windows version
Winning...
Frame rate is better, works flawlessly (except CQ, but who cares about that anyway?) and launcher doesn't display graphics properly, but does let you log in and patch properly.
And apparently there's some big performance changes coming to D3D in Wine soon which will make it run even better hopefully (unless it breaks it totally - lol).
Anyway, I can see scanning spheres properly under Wine and the performance is better. Bye Mac Client, it wasn't nice knowing you :) |

Vincent Athena
V.I.C.E. Aegis Solaris
2183
|
Posted - 2013.09.23 15:53:00 -
[118] - Quote
I borrowed a computer with 10.8 on it and now get this bug. Its no fun. I did figure out how to scan without the blue spheres, but its a pain. It will be nice to get home and get my usual computer back...unless IT put 10.8 on it in my absence.
CCP: any word on the fix? http://vincentoneve.wordpress.com/ |

Hernandez Thermidor
Lobster Hawk and Stoat
0
|
Posted - 2013.09.24 11:46:00 -
[119] - Quote
Try running a few anoms before trying to launch probes for the first time. I find doing 2 or 3 first means the probes will then show up. |

Odoya
Aeon Abraxas Abraxas Industrial
0
|
Posted - 2013.09.27 06:11:00 -
[120] - Quote
This is insane that there still is not a fix for this. I have lost so much in wh fuel costs and so forth not being able to scan. Keep mind, this is not a rant after even just 1 month of the issue. There have got be work arounds, like probes that scan 100% but take a lot longer, using the red "partial" find visual effect and so forth. CCP, you spent our game leads, isk and real world money and its profoundly disappointing that we're into month 4 ish of this problem? |
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Vincent Athena
V.I.C.E. Aegis Solaris
2214
|
Posted - 2013.09.29 01:49:00 -
[121] - Quote
Hernandez Thermidor wrote:Try running a few anoms before trying to launch probes for the first time. I find doing 2 or 3 first means the probes will then show up. When I read this I thought it was totally silly.
But I tried it anyway. It worked.
I found you do not need to do the anoms, just visit them. Also docking and undocking, and jumping to not undo the effect of the visit to the anoms. http://vincentoneve.wordpress.com/ |

Rykah
Space Paramedics Reciprocal Aegis
0
|
Posted - 2013.10.06 07:09:00 -
[122] - Quote
Didn't work for me - though I only visited 2 anoms and was cloaked at the time...
I'll try without cloak perhaps - how long do you think I need to stay there? |

Ammathi
Warteck Trading Co. The Mockers AO
3
|
Posted - 2013.10.07 01:20:00 -
[123] - Quote
So 4 months on and no fix we can just assume ccp telling us mac users with this problem to fu*k off. Quite disappointing i must say. CCP picks something that works, decides to improve it, and completely breaks it, then ignores it save one forum post. |

Vincent Athena
V.I.C.E.
2214
|
Posted - 2013.10.08 22:50:00 -
[124] - Quote
Rykah wrote:Didn't work for me - though I only visited 2 anoms and was cloaked at the time...
I'll try without cloak perhaps - how long do you think I need to stay there? I did it without cloaking, in high sec. I stayed at each of the three anoms just long enough to warp to the next one. Also, it was the first thing I did upon logging in. I think launching probes before visiting three anoms will make this workaround fail.
Note I returned the travel computer with 10.8 on it to IT and am back on my regular computer with 10.7. Thus I can no longer test this bug. http://vincentoneve.wordpress.com/ |

Rykah
Space Paramedics Reciprocal Aegis
0
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Posted - 2013.10.11 02:09:00 -
[125] - Quote
I suspect CCP are hoping the problem just disappears with Mavericks - since it's not on 10.7 they're viewing it as an Apple problem...
Which is incorrect approach, since Wine works.
But when other companies are starting to step up to Mac gaming CCP proves again it's not interested in actively supporting Macs. Happy to take our subs though. |

Clark Haley
United Evian Peace Corp Academy
0
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Posted - 2013.10.19 04:04:00 -
[126] - Quote
Was having the same problem, reinstalled with no effect, deleted files from username/library/application support, still nothing.
I turned ant-aliasing on and my probes came back.
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Clark Haley
United Evian Peace Corp Academy
0
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Posted - 2013.10.20 07:40:00 -
[127] - Quote
Well that was short lived, now nothing I do will bring my probes back. :(
I burnt up my advanced booster training for invention and exploration now i can't explore to get the stuff i need?
Please figure this out. |

Kenneth Feld
Habitual Euthanasia Pandemic Legion
5
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Posted - 2013.10.22 02:08:00 -
[128] - Quote
We POUNDED the community team and CCP Arrow over this, dunno if it will help |

Vincent Athena
V.I.C.E.
2224
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Posted - 2013.10.22 15:17:00 -
[129] - Quote
Clark Haley wrote:Well that was short lived, now nothing I do will bring my probes back. :(
I burnt up my advanced booster training for invention and exploration now i can't explore to get the stuff i need?
Please figure this out. You can explore, its just a bit slower.
Select all the probes in the probe window and you can manually change their range
Hold down the modifier key that shows all the probes in space. Grab an outer one and move it. When you do concentric circles show up showing you the bubble edge, halfway to the edge, and so on. Move the probe to get the spacing you wish.
Its a pain, slow, but possible. http://vincentoneve.wordpress.com/ |

Rykah
Space Paramedics Reciprocal Aegis
0
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Posted - 2013.10.23 09:30:00 -
[130] - Quote
From the patch notes;
FIXES Numerous client defects have been fixed in this release, making New Eden a better place for everyone.
Yeah, so long as by 'everyone' you don't include Mac users who use exploration - no spheres still.
But I suppose it's OK, cos I can at least get a luxury 'T-Shirt'.... /sarcasm |
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Rykah
Space Paramedics Reciprocal Aegis
0
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Posted - 2013.10.25 07:27:00 -
[131] - Quote

Looks like Mavericks fixes the sphere's not showing.
Also gives a marginally improved framerate with one client running, and significant improvements when multiple clients are running (though the client that does not have focus is significantly reduced - but I kinda don't mind that, since I'd prefer good speed on the one I am presently interacting with).
Anyway, Mavericks installed on my MBP Mid 2009, working like a charm - and a couple of degrees cooler too |

Hernandez Thermidor
Lobster Hawk and Stoat
0
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Posted - 2013.10.25 08:35:00 -
[132] - Quote
Another successful upgrade here. No issues with the client not starting, and probes seem to work fine now (though have only logged in twice so far). |

Utremi Fasolasi
The Scope Gallente Federation
291
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Posted - 2013.10.25 14:01:00 -
[133] - Quote
Seems to be working in 10.9. |

Nyktelios Nyx
Running with Knives Nexus Fleet
0
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Posted - 2013.10.26 02:31:00 -
[134] - Quote
Another confirmation that it is working in Mavericks. |

Dersen Lowery
Laurentson INC StructureDamage
803
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Posted - 2013.10.28 02:23:00 -
[135] - Quote
Also confirming that the client has worked well in Mavericks. In fact, it's smoother. Proud founder and member of the Belligerent Desirables. |
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CCP Sledgehammer
C C P C C P Alliance
5

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Posted - 2013.11.11 14:55:00 -
[136] - Quote
Hey all, is anyone able to confirm whether this issue is still occurring frequently for them? |
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Grovinskii
Brave Newbies Inc. Brave Collective
0
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Posted - 2013.11.11 18:02:00 -
[137] - Quote
I'm currently having this issue after the last round of patches. |

Ke'Laar
Bat Country Goonswarm Federation
0
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Posted - 2013.11.12 14:23:00 -
[138] - Quote
So I decided for the first time ever to try my hand at this Relic and Data site thing and I thought that since I have good scanning skills I should dust off the old Anathema and fit her up. Undocked and launched the probes in their new fancy formations with these 8 beautiful shinny blue spheres showing up in space. A bit of alignment here and there and soon I got me a Data site.
Moved on to the next system, launched probes and..... whaaaat..? where are my probe spheres?, rince and repeat... Nope still missing.
Pretty much went through all the remedies in this thread, and sadly my shinny blue probe spheres refuse to return, leaving me with these very faded and hard to see sphere grids.
Model Name:MacBook Pro Model Identifier:MacBookPro6,1 Processor Name:Intel Core i5 Processor Speed:2,53 GHz Number of Processors:1 Total Number of Cores:2 L2 Cache (per Core):256 KB L3 Cache:3 MB Memory:8 GB Processor Interconnect Speed:4.8 GT/s Boot ROM Version:MBP61.0057.B0F SMC Version (system):1.57f18 Serial Number (system):C02CR114DC79 Hardware UUID:A9112A62-C9C0-52D3-844B-033B676348DE Sudden Motion Sensor: State:Enabled
Chipset Model:NVIDIA GeForce GT 330M Type:GPU Bus:PCIe PCIe Lane Width:x16 VRAM (Total):512 MB Vendor:NVIDIA (0x10de) Device ID:0x0a29 Revision ID:0x00a2 ROM Revision:3560 gMux Version:1.9.22 |

Vincent Athena
V.I.C.E.
2256
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Posted - 2013.11.12 16:01:00 -
[139] - Quote
You left out the most important part: The OS. It appears that 10.7.x is good, 10.8.x is bad, and 10.9.x is good. http://vincentoneve.wordpress.com/ |

Ke'Laar
Bat Country Goonswarm Federation
0
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Posted - 2013.11.13 13:09:00 -
[140] - Quote
So upgrading to Mavericks did the trick...
Ke'Laar wrote:So I decided for the first time ever to try my hand at this Relic and Data site thing and I thought that since I have good scanning skills I should dust off the old Anathema and fit her up. Undocked and launched the probes in their new fancy formations with these 8 beautiful shinny blue spheres showing up in space. A bit of alignment here and there and soon I got me a Data site.
Moved on to the next system, launched probes and..... whaaaat..? where are my probe spheres?, rince and repeat... Nope still missing.
Pretty much went through all the remedies in this thread, and sadly my shinny blue probe spheres refuse to return, leaving me with these very faded and hard to see sphere grids.
Model Name:MacBook Pro Model Identifier:MacBookPro6,1 Processor Name:Intel Core i5 Processor Speed:2,53 GHz Number of Processors:1 Total Number of Cores:2 L2 Cache (per Core):256 KB L3 Cache:3 MB Memory:8 GB Processor Interconnect Speed:4.8 GT/s Boot ROM Version:MBP61.0057.B0F SMC Version (system):1.57f18 Serial Number (system):C02CR114DC79 Hardware UUID:A9112A62-C9C0-52D3-844B-033B676348DE Sudden Motion Sensor: State:Enabled
Chipset Model:NVIDIA GeForce GT 330M Type:GPU Bus:PCIe PCIe Lane Width:x16 VRAM (Total):512 MB Vendor:NVIDIA (0x10de) Device ID:0x0a29 Revision ID:0x00a2 ROM Revision:3560 gMux Version:1.9.22
Edit:
Oops.. OS = 10.8.5 ..and I am somewhat reluctant to upgrade to Mavericks, I am still unsure what it will break on my Mac. Not so much worried about EVE, but about all my other work related software
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Vincent Athena
V.I.C.E.
2270
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Posted - 2013.11.14 00:30:00 -
[141] - Quote
It would appear that as upgrading to 10.9 fixes it, and its a free upgrade, CCP and Transgaming can get away with never fixing this bug.
To bad that is not going to work with the freeze bug. http://vincentoneve.wordpress.com/ |

Manssell
OmiHyperMultiNationalDrunksConglomerate
200
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Posted - 2013.11.18 15:45:00 -
[142] - Quote
Vincent Athena wrote:You left out the most important part: The OS. It appears that 10.7.x is good, 10.8.x is bad, and 10.9.x is good.
It's gotta be in combination with something else though. I'm on 10.8.5 and I've never had this problem. |

Dersen Lowery
Laurentson INC StructureDamage
828
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Posted - 2013.11.18 16:00:00 -
[143] - Quote
Manssell wrote:Vincent Athena wrote:You left out the most important part: The OS. It appears that 10.7.x is good, 10.8.x is bad, and 10.9.x is good. It's gotta be in combination with something else though. I'm on 10.8.5 and I've never had this problem.
I never had it on 10.8 either, and as a wormhole dweller I would certainly have noticed. It might be some combination of the OpenGL driver and graphics card that went away when 10.9 updated the driver? I'm running an NVIDIA 660M. Proud founder and member of the Belligerent Desirables. |

Manssell
OmiHyperMultiNationalDrunksConglomerate
200
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Posted - 2013.11.18 16:14:00 -
[144] - Quote
Dersen Lowery wrote:Manssell wrote:Vincent Athena wrote:You left out the most important part: The OS. It appears that 10.7.x is good, 10.8.x is bad, and 10.9.x is good. It's gotta be in combination with something else though. I'm on 10.8.5 and I've never had this problem. I never had it on 10.8 either, and as a wormhole dweller I would certainly have noticed. It might be some combination of the OpenGL driver and graphics card that went away when 10.9 updated the driver? I'm running an NVIDIA 660M.
With our luck, It's probably something much more obscure than that. Forgot, I should have mentioned I'm running the Radeon HD 6750M. |
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