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James Syagrius
Stillwater Corporation That Escalated Quickly
421
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Posted - 2013.06.11 01:11:00 -
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Makkal Hanaya wrote:Julianus Soter wrote:Something about this doesn't smell right. I recommend all capsuleers exercise extreme caution and maintain surveillance of Amarrian fleet movements. Heth's actions being a prelude to an Amarrian invasion of Federation space is about as likely as a Jove jumping out of a cake for my next birthday party and doing a strip dance for all my guests. Ma'dame Hanaya, while I am loath to agree with Juilanus, his observation has merit.
He didn't imply that the Amarr would be invading the... Federation. GÇ£Here also are the heralds of his praise."
http://syagrius-eve.blogspot.com/
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TomHorn
Caldari Waffen Legion
102
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Posted - 2013.06.11 01:27:00 -
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I support Heth's stance to retake Caldari Prime. |

Veikitamo Gesakaarin
Pyre Falcon Defence and Security Pyre Falcon Defence Combine
360
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Posted - 2013.06.11 01:53:00 -
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I am uncertain what the future may hold due to this event but what I do expect is no doubt high degrees of posturing, ignorant speculations, cries of impotent outrage, and grandiose statements from the capsuleer community instead of allowing the proper authorities to handle the matter as they should.
Sweet Maker wept, what will be, will be.
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Rioghal Morgan
Full Artificial Intelligence
3
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Posted - 2013.06.11 01:59:00 -
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Julianus Soter wrote:Something about this doesn't smell right. I recommend all capsuleers exercise extreme caution and maintain surveillance of Amarrian fleet movements.
As much as that would be a terrible event, I cannot imagine an event that would better remedy the current tensions between the Federation and Republic than the Empire playing into their reputation for villainy by overstepping their bounds. |

Herzog Wolfhammer
Sigma Special Tactics Group
2862
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Posted - 2013.06.11 02:03:00 -
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I am docked at the station. Naturally the upper levels for capsuleers are beyond the reach of even the provists. Things appear quiet. This is only a few jumps from my Navy friends in Tintoh.
We'll be keeping track. |

Sepherim
PIE Inc. Praetoria Imperialis Excubitoris
459
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Posted - 2013.06.11 02:39:00 -
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Rioghal Morgan wrote:As much as that would be a terrible event, I cannot imagine an event that would better remedy the current tensions between the Federation and Republic than the Empire playing into their reputation for villainy by overstepping their bounds.
As much as people keep calling the Empire "the violent and evil conqueror of the peaceful nations around", truth is that it's been many years since we last invaded other state's sovereign space. As things stand, I'd fear a Minmatarr invasion more than an amarrian one, currently the Caldari are the only power they haven't invaded in the last five years.
But, setting this aside, these events trouble me. I don't like the way this is going, and as much as I believe Heth is an unrightful ruler for the State, this ending may bring no good to anyone. Sepherim Catillah Praetoria Imperialis Excubitoris Liuteneant Ex-Imperial Navy Imperator Commander |

Makkal Hanaya
Revenent Defence Corperation
607
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Posted - 2013.06.11 02:59:00 -
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James Syagrius wrote:Makkal Hanaya wrote:Julianus Soter wrote:Something about this doesn't smell right. I recommend all capsuleers exercise extreme caution and maintain surveillance of Amarrian fleet movements. Heth's actions being a prelude to an Amarrian invasion of Federation space is about as likely as a Jove jumping out of a cake for my next birthday party and doing a strip dance for all my guests. Ma'dame Hanaya, while I am loath to agree with Juilanus, his observation has merit. He didn't imply that the Amarr would be invading the... Federation. I see.
Let me amend my previous statement then.
"... a Jove leaping out of by birthday cake and doing a strip dance while Julianus Soter manages to express an intelligent, meaningful thought." Render unto Khanid the things which are Khanid's; and unto God the things that are God's. |

Cipher7
Sebiestor Tribe Minmatar Republic
80
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Posted - 2013.06.11 03:26:00 -
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What's this now.
I suppose I will show up to see de fireworks. |

Rioghal Morgan
Full Artificial Intelligence
3
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Posted - 2013.06.11 03:36:00 -
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Sepherim wrote:
As much as people keep calling the Empire "the violent and evil conqueror of the peaceful nations around", truth is that it's been many years since we last invaded other state's sovereign space. As things stand, I'd fear a Minmatarr invasion more than an amarrian one, currently the Caldari are the only power they haven't invaded in the last five years.
But, setting this aside, these events trouble me. I don't like the way this is going, and as much as I believe Heth is an unrightful ruler for the State, this ending may bring no good to anyone.
True enough but as I'm sure you're aware, many would consider your continuing enslavement of foreign peoples and your attempts to annihilate their culture in order to replace it with your own as more than enough justification to still think of you as the evil empire. Even as shocking as the Republic's backstabbing of the Federation is, I doubt the Tribal Council could possibly be stupid enough to out and out sever contact with the only power dissuading the Amarr from launching a a new Reclaiming by invading the Federation.
Regardless, I've gone off on a tangent to the topic at hand. I wish the Caldari people well in resolving this situation. |

Julianus Soter
Moira. Villore Accords
165
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Posted - 2013.06.11 03:44:00 -
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Makkal Hanaya wrote:James Syagrius wrote:Makkal Hanaya wrote:Julianus Soter wrote:Something about this doesn't smell right. I recommend all capsuleers exercise extreme caution and maintain surveillance of Amarrian fleet movements. Heth's actions being a prelude to an Amarrian invasion of Federation space is about as likely as a Jove jumping out of a cake for my next birthday party and doing a strip dance for all my guests. Ma'dame Hanaya, while I am loath to agree with Juilanus, his observation has merit. He didn't imply that the Amarr would be invading the... Federation. I see. Let me amend my previous statement then. "... a Jove leaping out of by birthday cake and doing a strip dance while Julianus Soter manages to express an intelligent, meaningful thought."
I am so terribly wounded by some mid-level Ishuk-Raata scourge of non-capsuleer pirates calling me an imbecile.
But since there are real human lives at stake here, I'll put aside it aside, and clarify my statement.
CAESA. The Caldari-Amarrian Economic Stimulus Agreement. Someone better start digging up the bylaws and start figuring out how to fight a war on two fronts, against Heth and the Empress. |

Makoto Priano
Priano Trans-Stellar State Services
538
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Posted - 2013.06.11 04:02:00 -
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Mr. Soter, with all due respect, you are by no means a disinterested, neutral party, given your association with the Federal Defense Union. Do you ever expect us to respond with anything but dismay when you comment on Caldari affairs? |

Katrina Oniseki
Revenent Defence Corperation Ishuk-Raata Enforcement Directive
1682
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Posted - 2013.06.11 05:09:00 -
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Julianus Soter wrote: I am so terribly wounded by some mid-level Ishuk-Raata scourge of non-capsuleer pirates calling me an imbecile.
But since there are real human lives at stake here, I'll put aside it aside, and clarify my statement.
CAESA. The Caldari-Amarrian Economic Stimulus Agreement. Someone better start digging up the bylaws and start figuring out how to fight a war on two fronts, against Heth and the Empress.
She did not call you an imbecile. Relax.
If the Empire invades, we will deal with it as we always have. I have to wonder if this is merely wishful thinking on your part though, as so far I have seen no evidence that the Empire is preparing anything of the sort.
Ch+½j+ì Katrina Oniseki ~ (RDC) Chief Operations Officer ~ [I-RED] Sub-Director of Public Relations |

Katran Luftschreck
Royal Ammatar Engineering Corps
1512
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Posted - 2013.06.11 05:47:00 -
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Odd how this whole thing reads exactly like the plot of one of those "Clear Skies" flatvid episodes. The day CCP codes together a bot program that slaps 30 day forum bans on anyone who says "can I have your stuff?" the overall average IQ of the EvE forums will quintuple overnight. |

Crazy Captain Nemo
Nova Corps Marines Group Ishuk-Raata Enforcement Directive
8
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Posted - 2013.06.11 06:07:00 -
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Makoto Priano wrote:Nemo-haan;
Currently, to my knowledge, the State authorizes mandatory military service for all citizens, to create a large pool of able-bodied, trained reservists in case of war. It's also my understanding that Heth remains CEO of Caldari Constructions, as he bought out significant portions of the company's stock during the worker uprising at one of its armor forges, some years ago.
That said, these actions seem to indicate that he no longer retains operational control of the company, hence his effort to step outside the chain of command to mobilize Caldari workers.
I grew up on a small Ishukone run colony and while we were required to learn the laws of Ishukone and The Watch it has been a number of years and I can honestly say I am unfamiliar with the military practices of Caldari Constructions and Kaalakiota so it very well may be that such a mandatory conscription is legal within the boundaries of those Megacorporations. I was also unaware that Heth-Haan was the CEO of Caldari Constructions. That being said, even the CEO of a company must answer to his or her shareholders, board of directors, and the CEP. Before I say anything further and more than likely make a fool out of myself I think that we should all wait for an OFFICIAL release from the CEP as to the legalities and actions that are to be taken, be those actions in favor or against the actions of Heth-Haan is for men and women wiser than I to decide. I will follow the direction the CEP declares and the will of Reppola-Haan. |

Vikarion
Deep Core Mining Inc. Caldari State
514
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Posted - 2013.06.11 06:43:00 -
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We need that station less than we need Heth gone. |

Diana Kim
State Protectorate Caldari State
464
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Posted - 2013.06.11 09:44:00 -
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For now, I will stay in the designated system to protect interests of the State, her citizens and the Executor, until I will be required elsewhere for military operation, or will be relieved from duty by superior officer.
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Laurienne 'Quafegirl' Cherbourg
University of Caille Gallente Federation
16
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Posted - 2013.06.11 09:49:00 -
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You go get them silly Gallentes, miss Diana!
Or like, whatever it is you do. GÖÑ Chilled QuafeGäó, accept no refreshment substitute. For all of you affluent Capsuleer-types, Quafe EliteGäó restaraunts can be found at many stations! Only got a few minutes to spare before that fleet-op? Swing by QuafeSnacksGäó for the full taste-experience you've come to expect from Quafe, on the go! |

Brandi Wiseman
Den Sorte Loge
42
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Posted - 2013.06.11 11:45:00 -
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Makoto Priano wrote:Wiseman-haani;
It is sufficient to act in defense of those who do not escalate the situation. War is just when pursued in defense of self, or those under one's guardianship. If Heth's forces initiate combat against the CEP or Caldari Navy, whose legitimacy cannot be questioned, then it is as an attack against the Caldari citizenry.
Why can the Navy's legitimacy not be questioned? There are numerous examples of coup d'etats by military units against civil governments. I specifically asked this and was informed that the Navy were under signed, sealed orders from the CEP to take the action last night.
I emphasise the fact that orders were sealed. To be just, the State must announce that Tibus Heth is a criminal and/or enemy of the State and that the Navy are under instructions to take him and his followers into custody. To do otherwise risks accusations of the actions being illegal.
Over 12 hours after the event I have still seen no sign from the CEP that Tibus Heth has been removed as Executor and that he is declared an enemy or traitor or whatever term you will. Until such an announcement, Heth's supporters (of which I am NOT one) are within their rights to continue to see Tibus Heth as the legitimate Executor and thus to call into question actions taken against him. That is a position that must be clarified immediately. Fly Caldari! |

Jowen Datloran
Science and Trade Institute Caldari State
515
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Posted - 2013.06.11 12:56:00 -
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Very true.
The Executor has done a lot of good for the Caldari people and he deserves a fair treatment. I will patiently await response from the CEP. Mr. Science & Trade Institute, EVE Online Lorebook-á |

Stitcher
Re-Awakened Technologies Inc
1481
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Posted - 2013.06.11 13:38:00 -
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I was handed fleet command last night when I jumped into system, and intend to re-form that fleet this evening at 17:30. CEP loyalists only, please, and with all due respect to our foreign friends I must request that this matter be left squarely in Caldari hands. The presence especially of Gallentean and Intaki pilots, while their concern is appreciated, is liable to increase the volatility of the situation. If you do show up in support of the CEP however your aid will not be refused - this is purely a courtesy request. In any case, with the Provist retoric making references to "re-taking Caldari Prime", you may wish to support the Federation's Tripwire units in Algogille.
Fleet operating policy will be the defence and support of the Caldari Navy. Their orders will be our orders. With current reports indicating that the CPD forces may have commandeered capital assets, we request that pilots who wish to join in fit for capital hunting. That means DPS, high speed, small sig radius and energy neutralisers. These being Caldari vessels, EM and thermal damage are advisable. Armageddon class battleships will be especially useful.
Remember that under CONCORD law, remote support of a pilot who is under a limited engagement results in a suspect flag for the supporting vessel. Remote repair and cap transfer vessels should be aware that their destruction at the hands of predatory third parties is likely, and fit accordingly. I recommend a minimum-complement volunteer crew only.
I hope that it does not come to violence. But we will place our trust in the professionalism of the Caldari Navy and the leadership of the CEP, and follow their orders as they are given.
For the State. -Hakatain. An in-character blog and a video: http://verinsjournal.blogspot.com http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tu1mbsgo738
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Morwen Lagann
Tyrathlion Interstellar
649
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Posted - 2013.06.11 14:22:00 -
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Update - Heth and his cronies have just been called out as terrorists by the CEP. Morwen Lagann Director, Tyrathlion Interstellar |

Brandi Wiseman
Den Sorte Loge
42
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Posted - 2013.06.11 14:22:00 -
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I note that the CEP has now issued a statement denouncing the actions taken by Tibus Heth and declaring his actions to be an act of terrorism against the Caldari State.
I welcome this announcement and it allows for support of the Caldari Navy in countering this threat to the State. I still hope that the situation can be resolved peacefully without recourse to conflict. Any such conflict will I hope seek to limit any potential bloodshed. Fly Caldari! |

Per Bastet
B.O.O.M Obsidian Mining Coalition
28
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Posted - 2013.06.11 14:45:00 -
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Diana Kim wrote:For now, I will stay in the designated system to protect interests of the State, her citizens and the Executor, until I will be required elsewhere for military operation, or will be relieved from duty by superior officer.
You may want to get ready to stand down then. "Whether the paranoid conspiracy theory community has had a separate trial process and decided other crazy batshit insane garbage was true I can't attest to as I don't subscribe to that mailing list and instead deal in the realm of fact."-á - CCP Sreegs, 2013 |

BloodBird
Duty.
211
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Posted - 2013.06.11 15:20:00 -
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The beginning of the end, then. The end of Heth's reign is finally within reach, and all of us will be better off for it.
Good hunting Verin. Clean your own damned house and let us know when it's done.
Maybe then when it's over some manner of sense can return to State leadership circles and there is a real chance for a peace agreement in a few years. Beats endless warfare.
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Jowen Datloran
Science and Trade Institute Caldari State
515
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Posted - 2013.06.11 15:35:00 -
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Why I've never...
But he...
I have to go lie down. Mr. Science & Trade Institute, EVE Online Lorebook-á |

Andreus Ixiris
Duty.
2853
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Posted - 2013.06.11 15:40:00 -
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It's nice to see the CEP have openly declared the situation. Now we wait to see how it unfolds. Mane 614
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Diana Kim
State Protectorate Caldari State
464
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Posted - 2013.06.11 15:48:00 -
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What is going on? Are their in their mind? To call military operation a "terrorism"? Maybe when we first captured Caldari Prime was terrorism too? When we were defending CN Shiigeru against gallentean attack, was it terrorism too? When we captured Intaki, and all other federal systems, was it terrorism?
Do they even know, what 'terrorism' is at all? We are at WAR, and gallente are our enemies! We must fight them to protect our homes, our relatives, our citizens and our corporations! You can't be protected, if you call those, who are fighting for you terrorists.
Our enemy is out there, in the Luminaire, and in the Villore, not in CC station. It is OUR forces that occupy our station, and these forces are fighting for ALL OF OUR CITIZENS! For whole our future!
We shouldn't fight among each other. There are gallente scumbags to shoot at!
So, lets gather all together and smash them down, so hard, so they will never raise their greedy hands again at our property and our lives!
For the State! For Heth! For Victory !! |

Stitcher
Re-Awakened Technologies Inc
1485
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Posted - 2013.06.11 15:52:00 -
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The theft of naval assets by an unauthorized party - terrorism The planned invasion of a foreign power in violation of the Yulai treaty - terrorism The hijacking of a station's security systems - terrorism Annexing several decks of said station and welding shut the doors - terrorism
The State has more than one enemy, Kim. And one of them lurks in Haatomo tonight. An in-character blog and a video: http://verinsjournal.blogspot.com http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tu1mbsgo738
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Anslo
The Scope Gallente Federation
1814
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Posted - 2013.06.11 15:58:00 -
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For any other sane parties in the Federation willing to let the Caldari handle things on their end (and in turn learn from our past mistakes), I suggest getting equipment to Luminaire and the surrounding area, just in case.
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BloodBird
Duty.
211
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Posted - 2013.06.11 16:03:00 -
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Kim.
I am eagerly awaiting your reaction to this world of ours that everyone else live in when Heth is dead and gone and people move on.
As for your little rant about terrorism, considering how your wonderful State treated the peoples of Placid and other areas you occupied for months, you may as well call your wonderful soldiers and their actions as such. Not a single man woman or child in your State has any right to complain about what happen to them in this war at this point.
Pretty much one of the reasons why it would be very wise to end it as soon as possible.
It would also be fun to know what you will possibly do once this happens. What will you do Kim, when Heth is gone and the war is over?
Somehow I think the following actions you make may be named by a single, simple word, given your history.
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