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Morwen Lagann Tyrathlion Interstellar 646	Posted - 2013.06.10 19:18:00 - [1] - Quote I suppose the latest breaking news answers the question of what Heth has been up to these last couple of weeks. Is anyone there in Haatomo already? What's going on? Morwen Lagann Director, Tyrathlion Interstellar
Scherezad Lai Dai Research Spacelane Security 990	Posted - 2013.06.10 19:21:00 - [2] - Quote Lai Dai Research Spacelane Security is responding immediately.
Andreus Ixiris Duty. 2850	Posted - 2013.06.10 19:30:00 - [3] - Quote The Provists have siezed the Caldari Constructions station. Elements of the Templis Dragonaurs are speaking on behalf of Heth. A Caldari Navy taskforce operating under orders from the CEP is demanding access, and being refused. I am bantering with the Templis Dragonaur pilot. He is not very good at it. Mane 614
Makkal Hanaya Revenent Defence Corperation 603	Posted - 2013.06.10 20:04:00 - [4] - Quote This should end splendidly. Render unto Khanid the things which are Khanid's; and unto God the things that are God's.
Makoto Priano Priano Trans-Stellar State Services 533	Posted - 2013.06.10 20:07:00 - [5] - Quote It looks as if Heth's attempt to spark a proletarian revolution are foundering at the very start. Did anyone have any forewarning of this? I'm currently out-of-pod, and may not be able to move to the engagement zone until some hours from now.
Svetlana Scarlet Caldari Independent Navy Reserve The Fourth District 151	Posted - 2013.06.10 20:09:00 - [6] - Quote Andreus Ixiris wrote: The Provists have siezed the Caldari Constructions station. Elements of the Templis Dragonaurs are speaking on behalf of Heth. A Caldari Navy taskforce operating under orders from the CEP is demanding access, and being refused. I am bantering with the Templis Dragonaur pilot. He is not very good at it. I am curious what demanded the Navy's involvement. Has there been any statement from the CEP as to why they felt they needed to intervene in this case?
Makoto Priano Priano Trans-Stellar State Services 533	Posted - 2013.06.10 20:11:00 - [7] - Quote Scarlet-haani; I suspect that this relates to the CEP tribunal's closed meeting over a week ago. Beyond that, we have no word on the CEP's judgment on Heth's involvement in the Caldari Prime incident.
Andreus Ixiris Duty. 2850	Posted - 2013.06.10 20:52:00 - [8] - Quote Svetlana Scarlet wrote: I am curious what demanded the Navy's involvement. Has there been any statement from the CEP as to why they felt they needed to intervene in this case? The Caldari Navy fleet were unable to reveal specific details due to opsec, but all statements made pointed towards them being under orders directly from the CEP and a Fleet Marshal in the Caldari Navy - possibly Mininela Erinen, although I may be misremembering. Mane 614
Coyote Torres Stormcrows 7	Posted - 2013.06.10 20:53:00 - [9] - Quote The DED sent a guy out there, he confirmed that they won't be getting involved in an internal Caldari matter. Here's hoping that CEP and the Navy can get our house in order. It's been a long time coming.
Diana Kim State Protectorate Caldari State 464	Posted - 2013.06.10 20:58:00 - [10] - Quote The situation was tight, but, luckily, the Navy ships were withdrawn without committing the treason. Soon the Federation will feel the wrath of Caldari! For the State! For Heth! For Victory !!
Andreus Ixiris Duty. 2850	Posted - 2013.06.10 21:00:00 - [11] - Quote Diana Kim wrote: The situation was tight, but, luckily, the Navy ships were withdrawn without committing the treason. The possibility of treason never entered into the equation. Diana Kim wrote: Soon the Federation will feel the wrath of Caldari! And how, precisely, will this happen? Mane 614
Julianus Soter Moira. Villore Accords 164	Posted - 2013.06.10 21:07:00 - [12] - Quote Something about this doesn't smell right. I recommend all capsuleers exercise extreme caution and maintain surveillance of Amarrian fleet movements.
Jelani Akinyemi Affonso Republic Military School Minmatar Republic 36	Posted - 2013.06.10 21:18:00 - [13] - Quote Julianus Soter wrote: Something about this doesn't smell right. I recommend all capsuleers exercise extreme caution and maintain surveillance of Amarrian fleet movements. are you implying the Amarrs are involve in Caldari internal affairs?
Makkal Hanaya Revenent Defence Corperation 604	Posted - 2013.06.10 21:31:00 - [14] - Quote Julianus Soter wrote: Something about this doesn't smell right. I recommend all capsuleers exercise extreme caution and maintain surveillance of Amarrian fleet movements. Heth's actions being a prelude to an Amarrian invasion of Federation space is about as likely as a Jove jumping out of a cake for my next birthday party and doing a strip dance for all my guests. Render unto Khanid the things which are Khanid's; and unto God the things that are God's.
Karmilla Strife Nobilita Nera JIHADASQUAD 86	Posted - 2013.06.10 21:32:00 - [15] - Quote Soter's just overly-concerned about movements.
Ston Momaki Disciples of Ston 816	Posted - 2013.06.10 21:33:00 - [16] - Quote The DSS Assist is currently outside the station. Traffic is light and there appears to be no activity outside the station. We are preparing to dock. There are 11 capsuleers aboard the station including Esna Pitoojee and Diana Kim. We stand by to offer humanitarian support for any who may need it. The Disciples of Ston bid you peace
Crazy Captain Nemo Nova Corps Marines Group Ishuk-Raata Enforcement Directive 6	Posted - 2013.06.10 21:41:00 - [17] - Quote I am assuming that Kim-Haani is very much in favor of this move due to her reaction to it. However to the best of my knowledge Heth-Haan does not have the legal right to conscript citizens outside of Kaalikiaota, and even then I am unsure. I understand from a tactical point of view that it would seem Heth-Haan wishes to start a "War of the People" and win back the sentiments of the State as a whole. I cannot agree with his current course of action. Heth-Haan is the Executor of the State, not its Despot and the last I checked conscription when not legally approved is despotism.
Coyote Torres Stormcrows 8	Posted - 2013.06.10 21:41:00 - [18] - Quote Makkal Hanaya wrote: Heth's actions being a prelude to an Amarrian invasion of Federation space is about as likely as a Jove jumping out of a cake for my next birthday party and doing a strip dance for all my guests. Can I come to your next birthday party? Yeah, I know, chances are slim - but if that happened it would be kinda cool.
Makoto Priano Priano Trans-Stellar State Services 533	Posted - 2013.06.10 21:54:00 - [19] - Quote Nemo-haan; Currently, to my knowledge, the State authorizes mandatory military service for all citizens, to create a large pool of able-bodied, trained reservists in case of war. It's also my understanding that Heth remains CEO of Caldari Constructions, as he bought out significant portions of the company's stock during the worker uprising at one of its armor forges, some years ago. That said, these actions seem to indicate that he no longer retains operational control of the company, hence his effort to step outside the chain of command to mobilize Caldari workers.
Saana Nupuunen Aseyakone 1	Posted - 2013.06.10 22:03:00 - [20] - Quote My assessment of the situation would indicate a stalemate. However, as neither side is in full control of the situation, it remains volatile. Information from the decks occupied by the rioting CPD personnel is not conclusive, but it would agree that the CPD and their Templis Dragonaurs allies cannot, even by press-ganging, find crews for the Navy ships they have stolen. The smaller ships do still carry worrying amounts of firepower and could be used with less crew. In addition, any workers and Navy personnel held hostage are worth the concern of anyone caring of the worker class - it is clear that Heth has stopped caring of the workers and the meritocracy. Most interestingly, looking at possible breaches of law, the actions of the CPD probably constitute a breach of contract between the CPD and Kaalakiota by proxy of the Constructions. Naturally, as long as Heth is the CEO, the KK will not prosecute. It is probably clear without mentioning that this is a serious breach of contract between CPD, Kaalakiota and the Caldari Navy, as well as potentially CPD, Kaalakiota and the CEP. Right now I wouldn't mind do find a few clone reanimation units with a battalion of those clone soldiers around. It would be perfect to have them cut thru some bulkheads to add some pressure to the rioting CPD thugs.
Amann Karris Karris Security Consulting 0	Posted - 2013.06.10 22:17:00 - [21] - Quote My thoughts and prayers go out to the inhabitants of the station, and I hope for a swift resolution to this situation. On a personal note I stand ready to assist DED in peacekeeping duties or to serve in a humanitarian capacity should the need arise. As an Amarrian citizen I will not take direct action against legitimate Caldari Navy personnel or those allied with the State Protectorate.
Karmilla Strife Nobilita Nera JIHADASQUAD 90	Posted - 2013.06.10 22:28:00 - [22] - Quote Mr. Karris, A peacekeeper unwilling to take action against either party in a conflict is merely a spectator.
Brandi Wiseman Den Sorte Loge 41	Posted - 2013.06.10 22:32:00 - [23] - Quote Karmilla Strife wrote: Mr. Karris, A peacekeeper unwilling to take action against either party in a conflict is merely a spectator. By 'take action' you mean 'take lives' presumably. Caldari lives. Why does there need to be conflict? Left to some of the people tonight an entire station would have been destroyed with the loss of countless innocents. I am satisfied that the situation did not escalate to conflict tonight. Fly Caldari!
Karmilla Strife Nobilita Nera JIHADASQUAD 90	Posted - 2013.06.10 22:44:00 - [24] - Quote There's already conflict.
Amann Karris Karris Security Consulting 0	Posted - 2013.06.10 22:48:00 - [25] - Quote Karmilla Strife wrote: Mr. Karris, A peacekeeper unwilling to take action against either party in a conflict is merely a spectator. I did not say I would not take action. I will follow DED direction in any potential conflict and I simply will not strike against certain specified allies. I will also defend myself as I deem fit. My hope is that this can be handled without bloodshed. My intent is to minimize collateral damage if conflict is inevitable. I hope that clarifies my stance.
Karmilla Strife Nobilita Nera JIHADASQUAD 90	Posted - 2013.06.10 22:52:00 - [26] - Quote It most certainly does.
Makoto Priano Priano Trans-Stellar State Services 536	Posted - 2013.06.10 23:11:00 - [27] - Quote Wiseman-haani; It is sufficient to act in defense of those who do not escalate the situation. War is just when pursued in defense of self, or those under one's guardianship. If Heth's forces initiate combat against the CEP or Caldari Navy, whose legitimacy cannot be questioned, then it is as an attack against the Caldari citizenry.
Svetlana Scarlet Caldari Independent Navy Reserve The Fourth District 152	Posted - 2013.06.10 23:25:00 - [28] - Quote At this point, it would seem wise for the CEP, CBT, Kaalakiota, and/or Caldari Constructions to make some sort of statement as to the current status of Tibus Heth. While I am glad to see the CEP taking some sort of action against the clearly mad tyrant that they put in power five years ago, I am also somewhat concerned by the legal precedent for what we are seeing at this point. If Tibus Heth is, as I do not think has been in dispute before, the CEO and Chairman of the Board for Caldari Constructions, this is rather dicey legal territory, although the open collaboration with a known terrorist group wanted by the Caldari State is certainly grounds for legal action. However, the fact that we have heard nothing about whether Tibus Heth remains CEO of Kaalakiota, if the Home Guard, who I believe are Caldari Constructions' current corporate security provider, will be taking action, if the CEP or Tribunal will be taking action against Caldari Constructions or Kaalakiota, and whether the CEP has abolished the so-called office of the Executor is all of a great deal of concern to those of us trying to pull apart the legal arguments in this situation. While I have little doubt the Navy was acting lawfully in this particularly situation, it is imperative that the State operate in as transparent a way as possible to discourage any notion that these actions are outside the bounds of law.
Kyoko Sakoda Sakoda Security Services 107	Posted - 2013.06.11 00:06:00 - [29] - Quote How fast and hard, this descent.
Cyrus Alabel Justified Chaos 9	Posted - 2013.06.11 01:08:00 - [30] - Quote Kyoko Sakoda wrote: How fast and hard, this descent. I'd like to see the resulting crater.

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