Gesakaarin-haani, jibes against fellow citizens of the State because of a mere disagreement on methods are unbecoming of you. We all wish to serve the State as well as possible. We merely differ on how we believe this may be best achieved.

Did I not just say as much when I specifically stated:

"...actual method in which Heth-haan's means of leveraging his CC stock into a CEO position of KK has certainly been a point of interest for myself even if it has been kept rather opaque the past five years by about every securities exchange in the State."

Or are you seeking to be contrary for the sake of it?

I might take another position as to the decisions of Oiritsuu-haani and the CEP: Given the very real risk of internal revolt and the instability presented by the popular revolution the CPD represented, far better to quiet the tongue until such time a situation presents itself that re-asserting control of rightful CEP authority can be met with chance of success. At times when must know when to wear the proper masks to meet the demands of the times. What you may perceive as inaction was simply the requirements to act wisely and with patience, and perhaps the reason why the men and women who sit on the CEP are there and you do not is because they have wisdom to know when to divorce their personal feelings to achieve what they must for those whom they are obligated to and the State.

They at least have done their duty under difficult political circumstances to achieve what they can for the past five years and they, along with many citizens of the State have had to bite their tongues because they could not afford the luxuries of being a capsuleer who can simply engage in consequence-free diatribe under CONCORD regulations in null-sec space because they didn't personally agree with the CPD.

You might disagree with the orders Oiritsuu-haani gave to the Home Guard on Piak five years ago as, "Heavy-handed" but I disagree, because it showed the willingness to act decisively against a legitimate threat to lawful corporate authority and the fact is that if the Home Guard and executed their orders as duty demanded of them then, we wouldn't even have to be dealing with the situation in Haatamo today.

I much prefer a leader who is willing to act and utilize any means at their disposal to preserve the rule of law without reservation and without mercy in the interests of the Greater Good of the Company than an indecisive and hesitant one who seeks to play to the love and adulation of the crowds for that at least shows strength and conviction to be admired.

I think that Heth is himself more motivated by Gallentean hatred than by proletariat idealism, Miss Priano.

This is not a war. It is law enforcement.

I support Heth's stance to retake Caldari Prime.

What is going on?
Are their in their mind?
To call military operation a "terrorism"?
Maybe when we first captured Caldari Prime was terrorism too?
When we were defending CN Shiigeru against gallentean attack, was it terrorism too?
When we captured Intaki, and all other federal systems, was it terrorism?

Do they even know, what 'terrorism' is at all?
We are at WAR, and gallente are our enemies!
We must fight them to protect our homes, our relatives, our citizens and our corporations!
You can't be protected, if you call those, who are fighting for you terrorists.

Our enemy is out there, in the Luminaire, and in the Villore, not in CC station. It is OUR forces that occupy our station, and these forces are fighting for ALL OF OUR CITIZENS! For whole our future!

We shouldn't fight among each other. There are gallente scumbags to shoot at!

So, lets gather all together and smash them down, so hard, so they will never raise their greedy hands again at our property and our lives!

For the State! For Heth! For Victory !!

It doesn't work like that. We shoot them, they complain. They shoot us, we complain, etc. It doesn't work like that at ALL for anyone who has half a brain. Who the hell are you to say, as a member of the Federation, that someone doesn't have the RIGHT to complain about the destruction brought upon their own people from a war led by a madman holding a station hostage? Where the HELL do you think you have the authority to tell them what to do?

The CPD and TD are an issue, fine. But don't curse the whole of the State for the actions of the few.

All those loyal to the State join Heth and the provists.

First if we have to we will win the battle of Haatomo and then we move on to New Caldari Prime to remove Federation control of our home planet.

We will follow Heth to New Caldari Prime. Heth the Victor.

Do you recall, Anslo, five years ago when this war began? I do.
Putting it short, the whole of the State was all to happy to engage in this war and for a time, they enjoyed the fruits of their successful annexation of our lands. MY HOME may not have suffered much. But it's only the tip of the iceberg here. There are billions of people across the war-zone that can inform you of how kind and merciful the State's forces were to those they had pressed under their boots.

First of all, I want weeping State-apologist Federals like you to wake up and smell the hypocrisy of lamenting the Federation's 'meddling in State affairs' when that same State has numerous crimes to account for. It's all well and good to be angry that we are meddlesome when the target of that unwanted attention is blameless, but that is not the reality here. I would like you, and every other apologist out there to keep this in mind and realize this war has two sides, and that if you must cry about it, crying for only one is naive at best, foolish at worst.

Secondly I want to see there be a measure of closure for both sides in the war if we are going to end it at all. From where I'm sitting I will ultimately have few problems with keeping the war alive for decades or centuries to come. It is a war of attrition and one we can easily win. It would however be utterly wasteful as far as lives are concerned and I am not arrogant enough to assume that just because I won't have a problem with handling it, the rest of the Union will have no problems either. They will. If the people had to vote for either resolving this war in an honorable manner in a couple of years or go on fighting like this for the next century or two, I'm confident we all know what option will be chosen, even if option two was guaranteed to end in victory and the end of the State's existence.

Let me clarify on closure - simply put, the resolving of any and all outstanding grievances between our nations, far as they can be resolved. To begin with, the State can return the millions they kidnapped from the transports leaving State space half a decade ago, and reimburse the other millions they robbed blind at the same time. That would be a good start. I'm confident the State has their terms for us, and at the end of it, when it's all done, THEN we can have a peace treaty signed, and ratified, and honored.

Until that day Anslo, until that day I have no sympathy at all for any complaints the State could ever raise against us, and even less so for Federals who buy into them. The State made their bed when they declared war on and invaded us, now, they lie in it. It is not our problem nor our fault that it's a very uncomfortable place to be.

All those loyal to the State join Heth and the provists.

First if we have to we will win the battle of Haatomo and then we move on to New Caldari Prime to remove Federation control of our home planet.

We will follow Heth to New Caldari Prime. Heth the Victor.

I want this war to end, but before that I want two more things.

You make war upon the CEP and the Navy. Just what State are you fighting for?

You know, what shall be done to end this war.

Federation must be destroyed.

It's people like you two that makes painting the State in a good like hard...

Not going to happen outside of your vivid delusions.

Get help.

It's people like you two that makes painting the State in a good like hard...

Federation zealot get on your knees and grovel you scum.

What's the easiest thing to spot in any decent stew?

The scum on the surface.

We've all got our nutcases. The Provists are just currently taking the biscuit for bloodyminded and loudmouthed idiocy.

Our leaders are supposed to lead, not be held captive to the mob. This is not the Federation or the Republic. This was a man who was a glorified forklift operator two months before he "took" power -- in that for no apparent reason they handed over the reins of the State to an unqualified moron. How many billions of our fellow Caldari have suffered because of that mistake? How many trillions of ISK have been burn in perpetuating this absurd situation?

I prefer a leader that realizes that force is not the most effective method in maintaining control, but a last resort. The inability of Kaalakiota to control the media in the wake of that incident and their panic in dumping Caldari Constructions stock is what got us into this whole mess. Wiser minds would have dealt with the whole situation quietly -- and permanently.

Federation zealot get on your knees and grovel you scum.