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Aidan Brooder
Dynasphere Ltd.
312
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Posted - 2013.07.05 15:05:00 -
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Khergit Deserters wrote: Just speaking for myself here, but it has to be Goons first. The whole attitude of, "Hey check it out! we lied to this guy, made him trust us, and scammed him out of five years of work in EVE. And look, he's sad about it. Ha ha ha, check out the lovely tears!" Scam the guy-- fine, it's part of the game. But after you got the fat kid's lunch money, you don't have to publicly hold him down and let every other mean little punk laugh at him and spit on him.
For sure, Goons aren't the only players in EVE who enjoy harvesting tears and getting a good public har har har out of them. They're just the most publicized representatives of that style of playing, over the years. So they're the ones we have to publicly attack.
P.S. Some Goons seem to be nice people. I won't shame them by naming any names here.
They are just the loudest of the bunch.
And, yes, there are some nice Goons. I could sort them by their level of inactivity, but I won't.  Blog: http://aidanbrooder.wordpress.com My EVE YouTube Vids (most recent): http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=T2alSWxXQbI
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1SEzNNYSlDE |

Kijo Rikki
Powder and Ball Alchemists Union The Predictables
447
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Posted - 2013.07.05 15:11:00 -
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Ok guys, it's been long enough. Time to break out the marauders and nocits and drop some SBU's and re-inforce VFK!
The screams of a thousand angry mission boats will not be silenced! |

Joepopo
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
52
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Posted - 2013.07.05 15:17:00 -
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Kijo Rikki wrote:Ok guys, it's been long enough. Time to break out the marauders and nocits and drop some SBU's and re-inforce VFK!
The screams of a thousand angry mission boats will not be silenced! Dropping SBU will get our attention for sure |

Kijo Rikki
Powder and Ball Alchemists Union The Predictables
449
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Posted - 2013.07.05 15:20:00 -
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Joepopo wrote:Kijo Rikki wrote:Ok guys, it's been long enough. Time to break out the marauders and nocits and drop some SBU's and re-inforce VFK!
The screams of a thousand angry mission boats will not be silenced! Dropping SBU will get our attention for sure
Shooting station services would probably do it too, which is a more realistic goal for a subcap fleet. 
EDIT: Also, my vote for the alliance name is the Angry Bear Coalition, ticker obviously -ABC- |

Joepopo
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
52
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Posted - 2013.07.05 15:24:00 -
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Kijo Rikki wrote:Joepopo wrote:Kijo Rikki wrote:Ok guys, it's been long enough. Time to break out the marauders and nocits and drop some SBU's and re-inforce VFK!
The screams of a thousand angry mission boats will not be silenced! Dropping SBU will get our attention for sure Shooting station services would probably do it too, which is a more realistic goal for a subcap fleet.  Less likely; A solo carrier can undock and repair; plus no one is in VFK now so the station is not used |

Aidan Brooder
Dynasphere Ltd.
312
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Posted - 2013.07.05 15:39:00 -
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Kijo Rikki wrote:[ EDIT: Also, my vote for the alliance name is the Angry Bear Coalition, ticker obviously -ABC-
Your suggestion will be taken into consideration.
I have my own favorites, but will not post them at this point... I guess when the time comes we'll either vote on it or just let Harry decide.
At the moment we just need more BEARS and also more BEARS!
Join Harry's movement for the fun of your lifetime! Blog: http://aidanbrooder.wordpress.com My EVE YouTube Vids (most recent): http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=T2alSWxXQbI http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1SEzNNYSlDE |

PopeUrban
El Expedicion
6
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Posted - 2013.07.05 22:40:00 -
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Aidan Brooder wrote:How much did you pay for your Joo Janta 200 Super-Chromatic Peril Sensitive Sunglasses?
Wow, who **** in your cereal, man. What exactly are you attempting to accomplish here? Are you discrediting my personal opinion as a representative of no one? Are you insinuating that I have a vested interest in the topic at hand outside of "**** blowing up increases demand"?
Or are you just **** waving in a safe direction because I don't have my finger on the "summon massive blob" button?
Spell it out for me because I'm too stupid to read between the lines here. |

PopeUrban
El Expedicion
6
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Posted - 2013.07.05 22:41:00 -
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deleted double post, sorry :) |

Aidan Brooder
Dynasphere Ltd.
316
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Posted - 2013.07.06 01:55:00 -
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PopeUrban wrote:Aidan Brooder wrote:How much did you pay for your Joo Janta 200 Super-Chromatic Peril Sensitive Sunglasses? Wow, who **** in your cereal, man. What exactly are you attempting to accomplish here? Are you discrediting my personal opinion as a representative of no one? Are you insinuating that I have a vested interest in the topic at hand outside of "**** blowing up increases demand"? Or are you just **** waving in a safe direction because I don't have my finger on the "summon massive blob" button? Spell it out for me because I'm too stupid to read between the lines here.
The sunglasses I was refering to are from a novel called "Hitchhiker to the Galaxy" by Douglas Adams. Which btw anyone should read, its just great.
Those sunglasses go solid black whenever their wearer looks at anything that could displease him.
Assuming that Burn Jita is not done with/for profit or that the war will in no way affect you is what made me assume you wear them.
Actually the Goons themselves posted financial results for burn Jita and their targets are selective, with some room they can burn for Lulz.
And if you don't realize how the outcome or just on-going fights of a major war affect you... I really want those glasses, too!
I might add that we make enough profit on our way to Mittanigrad to replace all ships & clones each time. Actually with quite a bit of a plus...
No offense meant, otherwise. Fly safe or whatever you do. Blog: http://aidanbrooder.wordpress.com My EVE YouTube Vids (most recent): http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=T2alSWxXQbI http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1SEzNNYSlDE |

Joepopo
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
53
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Posted - 2013.07.06 06:41:00 -
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Aidan Brooder wrote:
I might add that we make enough profit on our way to Mittanigrad to replace all ships & clones each time. Actually with quite a bit of a plus...
No offense meant, otherwise. Fly safe or whatever you do.
You can belt rat in bomber if you tank it kin/thermal and hit kinetic.
Orbit at range and only kill battleships. These are worth up to 1 800 000 per rat.
Remember to fit a salvager too, pvp wrecks are salvageable and often contain valuable loot.
Capital ships are usually faction fitted |
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bloodknight2
Talledega Knights PLEASE NOT VIOLENCE OUR BOATS
112
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Posted - 2013.07.06 11:32:00 -
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Joepopo wrote:
You can belt rat in bomber if you tank it kin/thermal and hit kinetic.
Orbit at range and only kill battleships. These are worth up to 1 800 000 per rat.
Remember to fit a salvager too, pvp wrecks are salvageable and often contain valuable loot.
Capital ships are usually faction fitted
You know, i really hate this kind of reply. It seems a lot of goonies think harry and everyone else following him are noobs who don't know anything about this game or are carebear who never left empire because they feared too much of losing their 17b faction fit BS. |

Obunagawe
158
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Posted - 2013.07.06 11:36:00 -
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In EVE there is a reversal of the old saying "if you can't beat them, join them". |

Aidan Brooder
Dynasphere Ltd.
317
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Posted - 2013.07.06 12:19:00 -
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Joepopo wrote:Aidan Brooder wrote:
I might add that we make enough profit on our way to Mittanigrad to replace all ships & clones each time. Actually with quite a bit of a plus...
No offense meant, otherwise. Fly safe or whatever you do.
You can belt rat in bomber if you tank it kin/thermal and hit kinetic. Orbit at range and only kill battleships. These are worth up to 1 800 000 per rat. Remember to fit a salvager too, pvp wrecks are salvageable and often contain valuable loot. Capital ships are usually faction fitted
I did think about it, even though it is tedious to start with.
The major downside resides in our currently very limited logistics & supply line. Ammo is limited and the next systems to easily re-stock are a dozen jumps away. If that weren't the case I'd certainly throw around more bombs.
Rats take a good many more hits to take down than the usual "war targets" we get. Refitting for tank & salvage would ruin the current fitting, and once again, we cannot easily dock and refit anywhere.
Logistics is really one of the more frustrating aspects of the operation, as the cure is relatively simple: More bears. 
But, well, some people seem very eager to join but are still training for the minimum cloaking requirements. Once that is accomplished, we can tackle that problem... Hard to fly a crane and a SB at the same time. Blog: http://aidanbrooder.wordpress.com My EVE YouTube Vids (most recent): http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=T2alSWxXQbI http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1SEzNNYSlDE |

Aidan Brooder
Dynasphere Ltd.
317
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Posted - 2013.07.06 12:39:00 -
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bloodknight2 wrote:Joepopo wrote:
You can belt rat in bomber if you tank it kin/thermal and hit kinetic.
Orbit at range and only kill battleships. These are worth up to 1 800 000 per rat.
Remember to fit a salvager too, pvp wrecks are salvageable and often contain valuable loot.
Capital ships are usually faction fitted
You know, i really hate this kind of reply. It seems a lot of goonies think harry and everyone else following him are noobs who don't know anything about this game or are carebear who never left empire because they feared too much of losing their 17b faction fit BS.
I think the major problem a Goon faces is to imagine how it is to not be in that giant safety net. Or to imagine that any way of EVE life except for being in a giant Alliance is worthwhile.
And before that comes up later: I never owned a 17B faction fit BS. A T2 Cerberus fit does it just fine and faster if I feel like soloing level IV missions, which mostly is boring as hell.
I do know some people in HS though who luv that kind of pimp ship to be fair. (More around 3-4B or so mostly and usually the fits are quite funny... Faction Ballistic Control system paired with CPU/Power ups, because they lack the core skills to do a real fitting...) But those are a minority, really, as far as I can tell. Blog: http://aidanbrooder.wordpress.com My EVE YouTube Vids (most recent): http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=T2alSWxXQbI http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1SEzNNYSlDE |

Herzog Wolfhammer
Sigma Special Tactics Group
2990
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Posted - 2013.07.06 21:10:00 -
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PopeUrban wrote:Joepopo wrote:PopeUrban wrote:This is pretty popcorn worthy. Why don't you guys formalize an alliance and call it like "Nullsec Liberation Front" or something. I'd imagine that the massive potential industrial supply chain could create a suicide blob for the ages, which, if you think about it, would be hilariously ironic when pointed at goonfleet.
Also, why limit yourselves to picking on the goons specifically? There's a whole amazing ecosystem to explode out there.
This is more fun news than "Yep, still fighting over moons" at any rate. They attack us because we care about them, bringing nullsec love to their sweet jita once in a while. Edit: In fact I don t really know who they attack. We are currently in B-D. Right, which is why I'm not getting it. I mean I understand being pissed at burn jita and wanting to funnel that agression, but I'm of a mind that people should either **** or get off the pot. Personally I don't care. There's no profit in suiciding in goon space for me (or taking the time to fly there) There's nothing there I want or care about, and the whole war is this ancillary nonfactor in my day to day EVE life. Profit doesn't motivate the decisions of everyone though. It certainly didn't motivate the burn jita event and it doesn't motivate this carebear revolt either. I just... IDK... I never thought about it before but what if all those empire crazy multibox industrial titans actually decided to fund a war effort, and got a bunch of those can flippers, mission runners, and various other hisec combat pilots to fly the boats. It seems like I could make a bunch more money off of that. So people should do it.
Nobody is angry at anything. We don't even hate the goons.
As for an alliance, fighting a large power with another large power does not fit in the paradigms of asymmetric warfare. Thus the moment a large alliance is built, it will be decced, and it becomes the same old story.
The "alliance" already exists anyway. It has thousands of pilots, many stations, countless production slots, and as much ISK as all of the tech moons in nullsec.
That alliance is called "highsec".
I could wax poetic on this topic and bang out a description of the endeavor that even Joepopo has a chance of understanding, but my truck needs a new clutch master cylinder at the moment. |

Joepopo
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
54
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Posted - 2013.07.07 07:37:00 -
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Herzog Wolfhammer wrote:
We don't even hate the goons.
Thus the moment a large alliance is built, it will be decced, and it becomes the same old story.
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Test alliance please ignore: 12487 characters Goonswarm federation: 8806.
http://evemaps.dotlan.net/alliance/memberCount
Tell me again you are against the large alliance and that this is not personnal against goon,please. |

PopeUrban
El Expedicion
7
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Posted - 2013.07.07 07:38:00 -
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Herzog Wolfhammer wrote:Nobody is angry at anything. We don't even hate the goons.
As for an alliance, fighting a large power with another large power does not fit in the paradigms of asymmetric warfare. Thus the moment a large alliance is built, it will be decced, and it becomes the same old story.
The "alliance" already exists anyway. It has thousands of pilots, many stations, countless production slots, and as much ISK as all of the tech moons in nullsec.
That alliance is called "highsec".
I could wax poetic on this topic and bang out a description of the endeavor that even Joepopo has a chance of understanding, but my truck needs a new clutch master cylinder at the moment.
Not "angry" and "hate" in a literal sense. More of an "angry" in an EVE-Revenge context. Had the goons not struck a nerve, they wouldn't be first on the list. That nerve doesn't have to be literally can't-sleep-at-night and think-about-it-at-your-job emotional, but it looks a lot to me like "Yeah! **** those guys! Let's make a statement!" more than "these guys threaten our way of life so let's get them" that creates null bloc wars.
You know, like moon goo magically moving around creates a situation like fountain.
This case seems like an excuse to go punt goons because goons do stuff that makes your lives inconvenient. That's an emotional context. You know what you're doing won't STOP them from passing out free burn jita 2.0 fleets (or hey, burn jita 3.0!) to anyone that wants them for teh lulz. You know you're spending resources for something that can't possibly end in gain of any sort other than emotional.
Again, this isn't a BAD thing.
****, embrace it. Goons are only sucessful because A: there are a fuckton of them B: they have an extreme nationalistic pride that transcends rationality
This movement has the potential of capturing both of those qualities from the opposite end of the spectrum.
Don't DENY that your'e all pissed and want revenge. Embrace it. Shout it from the hills. Make it a rallying cry. That's what's getting your pilots out of empire in the first place and that's what's going to pull more. That's what's going to convince the guy with the 10 box 23/7 hisec starship production operation to donate or discount some hardware.
Success is a measure of meeting goals. First, you gotta have goals. If the goal is REVENGE then you succeed with every single thing you blow up. |

PopeUrban
El Expedicion
7
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Posted - 2013.07.07 07:39:00 -
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double post again :P |

Herzog Wolfhammer
Sigma Special Tactics Group
2991
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Posted - 2013.07.07 07:42:00 -
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Joepopo wrote:Herzog Wolfhammer wrote:
We don't even hate the goons.
Thus the moment a large alliance is built, it will be decced, and it becomes the same old story.
.
Test alliance please ignore: 12487 characters Goonswarm federation: 8806. http://evemaps.dotlan.net/alliance/memberCountTell me again you are against the large alliance and that this is not personnal against goon,please.
OK I'll tell you again.
We are against a large alliance and it's not personal against the goons.
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Mallak Azaria
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
3282
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Posted - 2013.07.07 09:11:00 -
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PopeUrban wrote:****, embrace it. Goons are only sucessful because A: there are a fuckton of them B: they have an extreme nationalistic pride that transcends rationality
You forgot C: We have a lot of really intelligent people that make everything work. The guy who was sitting next to me in the first nullsec round table who had obviously not had a shower since before boarding his flight to Iceland, you really stank. You know who you are. |
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Scatim Helicon
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
2003
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Posted - 2013.07.07 10:13:00 -
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Mallak Azaria wrote:PopeUrban wrote:****, embrace it. Goons are only sucessful because A: there are a fuckton of them B: they have an extreme nationalistic pride that transcends rationality You forgot C: We have a lot of really intelligent people that make everything work.
Obvious lie, everyone knows that all goons are nothing but mindless F1 mashing drone blobbers Titans were never meant to be "cost effective", its a huge ****.-á- CCP Oveur, 2006
~If you want a picture of the future of WiS, imagine a spaceship, stamping on an avatar's face. Forever. |

Obunagawe
162
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Posted - 2013.07.07 10:20:00 -
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Mallak Azaria wrote:PopeUrban wrote:****, embrace it. Goons are only sucessful because A: there are a fuckton of them B: they have an extreme nationalistic pride that transcends rationality You forgot C: We have a lot of really intelligent people that make everything work.
So basically goonswarm is a fascist dictatorship! |

Sergeant Acht Scultz
School of Applied Knowledge Caldari State
946
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Posted - 2013.07.07 10:22:00 -
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Obunagawe wrote:Mallak Azaria wrote:PopeUrban wrote:****, embrace it. Goons are only sucessful because A: there are a fuckton of them B: they have an extreme nationalistic pride that transcends rationality You forgot C: We have a lot of really intelligent people that make everything work. So basically goonswarm is a fascist dictatorship!
Best trolling post these last 2 pages.
10/10 !
*removed inappropriate ASCII art signature* - CCP Eterne |

Harry Forever
SpaceJunkys
215
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Posted - 2013.07.07 11:37:00 -
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I want every high sec carebear to place a cloaked alt in VFK, I want it to be a tradition to go try shoot a goon after a long mining day... I want to see hundred ships there, day and night
I want this place sieged... we do this because you are begging for it
this locust swarm without head and leader will graze in your system
this is highsecs dreadful bane, a plague coming over you OMG! the asteroid is depleted! |

Joepopo
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
54
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Posted - 2013.07.07 12:09:00 -
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Harry Forever wrote:I want every high sec carebear to place a cloaked alt in VFK, I want it to be a tradition to go try shoot a goon after a long mining day...
Empire mining lords be like "Why waste time on losing shipe to goon when I can mine a little more instead?" |

Joepopo
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
62
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Posted - 2013.07.07 13:44:00 -
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Joepopo wrote:Harry Forever wrote:I want every high sec carebear to place a cloaked alt in VFK, I want it to be a tradition to go try shoot a goon after a long mining day...
Empire mining lords be like "Why waste time on losing ships to goon when I can mine a little more instead?"
While VFK was under siege, 06/07/2013, we made a video: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mfdiAyq9mUY |

PopeUrban
El Expedicion
14
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Posted - 2013.07.07 13:53:00 -
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Mallak Azaria wrote:PopeUrban wrote:****, embrace it. Goons are only sucessful because A: there are a fuckton of them B: they have an extreme nationalistic pride that transcends rationality You forgot C: We have a lot of really intelligent people that make everything work.
IMO that's just the law of averages at work, and it only works because of the wholehearted willingness of the proles to tow your party line and do whatever **** job needs done without complaint for the good of your nation.
I doubt there's a higher per capita of smart people good at spreadsheets and math in goons than anywhere else.
There was a time when I'd have said your intelligence agency was a cut above, but honestly, serious spying is dead in EVE because you succeeded yourselves right out of work. |

Alavaria Fera
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
3832
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Posted - 2013.07.07 17:21:00 -
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Joepopo wrote:Joepopo wrote:Harry Forever wrote:I want every high sec carebear to place a cloaked alt in VFK, I want it to be a tradition to go try shoot a goon after a long mining day... Empire mining lords be like "Why waste time on losing ships to goon when I can mine a little more instead?" While VFK was under siege, 06/07/2013, we made a video: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mfdiAyq9mUY Nice video. There are no goons. The goons' 0.0 dream is over. TEST Defence, Please Ignore
Projecting regards and power all over your space. http://wiki.eveonline.com/en/wiki/%27Regard%27_I_Power_Projector |

Harry Forever
SpaceJunkys
298
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Posted - 2013.07.07 19:38:00 -
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news from the front
we are now officially against TEST as well... just was in VFK and had a 5 goon killstreak when a test fleet showed up... as I did have a bubble in cargo I told them they should fleet me up and I can place it infront of the station, they did, however as soon as I uncloaked they dropped the fleet and engaged, my ship was able to escape however
this is so rediculous, they prefer to shoot down one catalyst instead of having a bubble infront of mittanigrad, it would have been perfect, ca 10-20 ships all sieged up... those people... I honestly think the space vacuum does no good to their brains OMG! the asteroid is depleted! |

Elizabeth Aideron
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
64
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Posted - 2013.07.07 19:45:00 -
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Harry Forever wrote:news from the front
we are now officially against TEST as well... just was in VFK and had a 5 goon killstreak when a test fleet showed up... as I did have a bubble in cargo I told them they should fleet me up and I can place it infront of the station, they did, however as soon as I uncloaked they dropped the fleet and engaged, my ship was able to escape however
this is so rediculous, they prefer to shoot down one catalyst instead of having a bubble infront of mittanigrad, it would have been perfect, ca 10-20 ships all sieged up... those people... I honestly think the space vacuum does no good to their brains
are you going to start killing their cynos now? |
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