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Harry Forever
SpaceJunkys
83
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Posted - 2013.06.18 22:07:00 -
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CareBears Unite and lets hit the goons from behind!
lets start a 24 hour invasion with our mission ships
VFK is the target! set destination and go go go!
yes 7 days a week, all go there now!
shoot everything that moves! OMG! the asteroid is depleted! |
Gallowmere Rorschach
Alpha Strategy The Unthinkables
146
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Posted - 2013.06.18 22:09:00 -
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Make sure to take SBUs with you. I would pay good money to see the CFC get turned around mid-invasion by a giant blob of pubbies attacking the sov of their home system. |
Harry Forever
SpaceJunkys
83
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Posted - 2013.06.18 22:14:00 -
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yes carebears complete destruction! this is our VFK burn! lets smoke out their cave! OMG! the asteroid is depleted! |
Shepard Wong Ogeko
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
483
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Posted - 2013.06.18 22:15:00 -
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Please do this. I love some good hitting in the behind.
And I haven't had a chance to blap a mission boat since the last Burn Jita. |
Harry Forever
SpaceJunkys
83
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Posted - 2013.06.18 22:18:00 -
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small ships big ships no matter what! fleet or solo! complete chaos! lets **** in their garden! OMG! the asteroid is depleted! |
Robus Muvila
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
459
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Posted - 2013.06.18 22:31:00 -
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This happening would be the most incredible thing in Eve history. TMC Senior Developer http://themittani.com - Because EvE has needed a proper news site for ages |
Harry Forever
SpaceJunkys
83
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Posted - 2013.06.18 22:36:00 -
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jump to your clones now! take that dusty ship from your hangar! and swarm that place day and night! OMG! the asteroid is depleted! |
Thorleifer
Yeti Cave
11
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Posted - 2013.06.18 22:36:00 -
[8] - Quote
This thread will end in many tears, and I am not thinking they will be coming from the goonheads. |
Gallowmere Rorschach
Alpha Strategy The Unthinkables
148
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Posted - 2013.06.18 22:40:00 -
[9] - Quote
Thorleifer wrote:This thread will end in many tears, and I am not thinking they will be coming from the goonheads. And it is precisely this attitude of "why bother?" that prevents fun **** from happening in Eve a lot of the time. Don't do it because you can win. Do it to say that you rolled the **** up there and did it, even if you get sent home in thousands of pubbie pods. |
Shepard Wong Ogeko
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
483
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Posted - 2013.06.18 22:45:00 -
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Thorleifer wrote:This thread will end in many tears, and I am not thinking they will be coming from the goonheads.
Tears of joy. |
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Harry Forever
SpaceJunkys
84
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Posted - 2013.06.18 22:47:00 -
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I'm ******* going there now! burn down the house! 24 jumps to go! come on! mobilize! OMG! the asteroid is depleted! |
Gallowmere Rorschach
Alpha Strategy The Unthinkables
152
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Posted - 2013.06.18 22:51:00 -
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Harry Forever wrote:I'm ******* going there now! burn down the house! 24 jumps to go! come on! mobilize! Errmmm...might be a good idea to get the fleet together before you leave. |
Scaramanga Erquilenne
52
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Posted - 2013.06.18 22:53:00 -
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Carebear reporting in , never fired a volley in anger .Were do they live and how do I get there ? I am floating around dioxide at the moment You have your way. I have my way. As for the right way, the correct way, and the only way, it does not exist-á |
Harry Forever
SpaceJunkys
84
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Posted - 2013.06.18 22:55:00 -
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no fleet no tactic, invasion! nobody is there! blow them up! 19 jumps to go! move on!
suicide mission! **** we can do it! OMG! the asteroid is depleted! |
Riot Girl
Thundercats The Initiative.
1119
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Posted - 2013.06.18 22:56:00 -
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Harry Forever wrote:we can do it! Do what? Oh god. |
Harry Forever
SpaceJunkys
84
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Posted - 2013.06.18 22:57:00 -
[16] - Quote
Scaramanga Erquilenne wrote:Carebear reporting in , never fired a volley in anger .Were do they live and how do I get there ? I am floating around dioxide at the moment
search VFK on your map, set destination and go go go! OMG! the asteroid is depleted! |
Harry Forever
SpaceJunkys
84
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Posted - 2013.06.18 22:58:00 -
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Riot Girl wrote:Harry Forever wrote:we can do it! Do what?
**** in their garden! :D OMG! the asteroid is depleted! |
Harry Forever
SpaceJunkys
84
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Posted - 2013.06.18 23:02:00 -
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they missed me!! :DD OMG! the asteroid is depleted! |
Mallak Azaria
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
3215
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Posted - 2013.06.18 23:02:00 -
[19] - Quote
Quick, someone give these guys docking rights so they can replace their ships & get back in to the battle quickly. The guy who was sitting next to me in the first nullsec round table who had obviously not had a shower since before boarding his flight to Iceland, you really stank. You know who you are. |
Lykouleon
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
836
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Posted - 2013.06.18 23:02:00 -
[20] - Quote
Some goons will really enjoy getting it from behind. Toshiro Ozuwara > GOon cowards come fight Toshiro Ozuwara > Oh wait, you only camp when you got numberssss
I would fully support account bans by ccp for meta type stuff like this. |
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Scaramanga Erquilenne
54
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Posted - 2013.06.18 23:05:00 -
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Harry Forever wrote:Scaramanga Erquilenne wrote:Carebear reporting in , never fired a volley in anger .Were do they live and how do I get there ? I am floating around dioxide at the moment search VFK on your map, set destination and go go go!
Okay , Took the dust sheet off my battleship heading there now You have your way. I have my way. As for the right way, the correct way, and the only way, it does not exist-á |
Shepard Wong Ogeko
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
484
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Posted - 2013.06.18 23:09:00 -
[22] - Quote
Mallak Azaria wrote:Quick, someone give these guys docking rights so they can replace their ships & get back in to the battle quickly.
There are NPC station in Pure Blind they can dock in. |
Harry Forever
SpaceJunkys
84
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Posted - 2013.06.18 23:11:00 -
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Scaramanga Erquilenne wrote:Harry Forever wrote:Scaramanga Erquilenne wrote:Carebear reporting in , never fired a volley in anger .Were do they live and how do I get there ? I am floating around dioxide at the moment search VFK on your map, set destination and go go go! Okay , Took the dust sheet off my battleship heading there now
assure you jump manually, no autopilot! OMG! the asteroid is depleted! |
Harry Forever
SpaceJunkys
84
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Posted - 2013.06.18 23:12:00 -
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3 jumps to go! OMG! the asteroid is depleted! |
Miss Altiana
Federal Navy Academy Gallente Federation
3
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Posted - 2013.06.18 23:14:00 -
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Harry Forever wrote:no fleet no tactic, invasion! nobody is there! blow them up! 19 jumps to go! move on!
suicide mission! **** we can do it!
There are otherways to draw their resources then fighting, train cloaking 1, get a crap ship, fit with cheap mods, and a cheap cloak, then flood their areas with presence, if no one is there you can tag their structures, and then go into hiding, keep doing that, and they need to keep a presence, also, while your in systems, they need to guard their transports, miners need to look ower their shoulders, things suddenly become troublesome, they know your there, but they dont know really who
At times just shadow play can do more damage then trying to actually kill or blow up things, in any case good luck on your task, and no matter how it goes, have fun ! |
Scaramanga Erquilenne
54
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Posted - 2013.06.18 23:16:00 -
[26] - Quote
Harry Forever wrote:3 jumps to go!
40 jumps to go You have your way. I have my way. As for the right way, the correct way, and the only way, it does not exist-á |
Alavaria Fera
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
3707
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Posted - 2013.06.18 23:20:00 -
[27] - Quote
Miss Altiana wrote:Harry Forever wrote:no fleet no tactic, invasion! nobody is there! blow them up! 19 jumps to go! move on!
suicide mission! **** we can do it! There are otherways to draw their resources then fighting, train cloaking 1, get a crap ship, fit with cheap mods, and a cheap cloak, then flood their areas with presence, if no one is there you can tag their structures, and then go into hiding, keep doing that, and they need to keep a presence, also, while your in systems, they need to guard their transports, miners need to look ower their shoulders, things suddenly become troublesome, they know your there, but they dont know really who At times just shadow play can do more damage then trying to actually kill or blow up things, in any case good luck on your task, and no matter how it goes, have fun ! Join PL and bring a cyno and some liquid ozone. I am a nullsec zealot. |
Shepard Wong Ogeko
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
486
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Posted - 2013.06.18 23:21:00 -
[28] - Quote
Harry is actually in VFK, off the station.
That makes him the official king of highsec. |
Riot Girl
Thundercats The Initiative.
1119
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Posted - 2013.06.18 23:22:00 -
[29] - Quote
Is he using psychological warfare? Oh god. |
Elizabeth Aideron
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
26
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Posted - 2013.06.18 23:22:00 -
[30] - Quote
has vfk fallen yet |
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Harry Forever
SpaceJunkys
84
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Posted - 2013.06.18 23:22:00 -
[31] - Quote
I did shoot at the base!! :DD got screenshots!! :DD OMG! the asteroid is depleted! |
dethleffs
Immortalis Inc. Shadow Cartel
213
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Posted - 2013.06.18 23:25:00 -
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POAST THE SREENS MAIIIINNNNNN |
Jureth22
Mind Games. Suddenly Spaceships.
98
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Posted - 2013.06.18 23:33:00 -
[33] - Quote
battle procurers are really good for invading goons.they can really tank
ventures are also a good source of dps :D |
Harry Forever
SpaceJunkys
85
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Posted - 2013.06.18 23:34:00 -
[34] - Quote
there you go!! :DD https://twitter.com/geistreiches/status/347135209088614400/photo/1 OMG! the asteroid is depleted! |
Gallowmere Rorschach
Alpha Strategy The Unthinkables
154
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Posted - 2013.06.18 23:35:00 -
[35] - Quote
Shepard Wong Ogeko wrote:Harry is actually in VFK, off the station.
That makes him the official king of highsec. Someone needs to rename the station to "Harry Forever Shot Meh..." for a day. |
Jason Novork
Novafox Union
7
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Posted - 2013.06.18 23:40:00 -
[36] - Quote
I've seen this before, its the high-sec tactical blind-lemming-strike.
One by one the sector fills up with high sec wrecks, the enemies overview is overwhelmed resulting in a temporary blindness. |
Riot Girl
Thundercats The Initiative.
1119
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Posted - 2013.06.18 23:40:00 -
[37] - Quote
Aren't you going to use your DCU?
Oh god. |
Gallowmere Rorschach
Alpha Strategy The Unthinkables
155
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Posted - 2013.06.18 23:50:00 -
[38] - Quote
Would you look at that? Not even three months old yet, and already has more balls than the rest of highsec combined. I'd vouch you into the alliance of your choosing, if my vouch meant anything. ^_^ |
Alavaria Fera
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
3707
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Posted - 2013.06.18 23:54:00 -
[39] - Quote
Shepard Wong Ogeko wrote:Harry is actually in VFK, off the station.
That makes him the official king of highsec. Interesting. I am a nullsec zealot. |
Harry Forever
SpaceJunkys
87
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Posted - 2013.06.19 00:07:00 -
[40] - Quote
Riot Girl wrote:Aren't you going to use your DCU?
next time, bigger weapons bigger ships, that bubble caugt my on the way out, need to fit one of those strategic cruisers for tomorrow OMG! the asteroid is depleted! |
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Herzog Wolfhammer
Sigma Special Tactics Group
2896
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Posted - 2013.06.19 00:10:00 -
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The trouble with violencing goons is that you have to equip to do it twice because they'll enjoy it the first time.
Any alliance would be most inconvenienced if wolf packs used wormholes to bypass the intel channels and gank pipelines and go into deep nullsec. They would be forced away from "the big draw" of nullsec for most of their members (which is to rack up big ISK running anoms) and do combat patrols instead. Even big fleet battles would not happen.
All warfare is ultimately economic. Even if you can't win, you can still drain an enemy dry by making them spend way more money than you. This is why dropping a $50K bomb on a $50 truck never wins wars.
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Scaramanga Erquilenne
56
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Posted - 2013.06.19 00:21:00 -
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Okay 6 jumps out from goon HQ ran in to a goon bubble trap just one of them running it .Engaged the ship and it ran off ,must have throught I was a Ruse for a bigger force behind me lol.Well made it ti within one jump of the HQ and ran in to a gate camp.About 8 of them I was blinded could not lock anything , 30 seconds and its all over
But had some fun along the way :) You have your way. I have my way. As for the right way, the correct way, and the only way, it does not exist-á |
Thorleifer
Yeti Cave
11
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Posted - 2013.06.19 00:26:00 -
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Gallowmere Rorschach wrote:Thorleifer wrote:This thread will end in many tears, and I am not thinking they will be coming from the goonheads. And it is precisely this attitude of "why bother?" that prevents fun **** from happening in Eve a lot of the time. Don't do it because you can win. Do it to say that you rolled the **** up there and did it, even if you get sent home in thousands of pubbie pods.
no, your on drugs. First off what good would a mission ship do against PVP fit ships, sure it will damage them but the effectiveness is not there, second there is alot of mission runners with high isk mission ships so again, not the brightest idea on the block. Now if you would of said mission runner fit some ships and fly out there to harass goons then sure that might be feasable, but for the love of god don't take a mission fit ship and try to PVP in it, that is just noobish and dumb |
Gallowmere Rorschach
Alpha Strategy The Unthinkables
158
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Posted - 2013.06.19 00:26:00 -
[44] - Quote
Scaramanga Erquilenne wrote:Okay 6 jumps out from goon HQ ran in to a goon bubble trap just one of them running it .Engaged the ship and it ran off ,must have throught I was a Ruse for a bigger force behind me lol.Well made it ti within one jump of the HQ and ran in to a gate camp.About 8 of them I was blinded could not lock anything , 30 seconds and its all over
But had some fun along the way :) Wait wait...you just lost a battleship, to a gatecamp, you're not raging over it, and you're from highsec? What the hell is even happening in Eve today? O_O |
Thorleifer
Yeti Cave
11
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Posted - 2013.06.19 00:28:00 -
[45] - Quote
Herzog Wolfhammer wrote:The trouble with violencing goons is that you have to equip to do it twice because they'll enjoy it the first time.
Any alliance would be most inconvenienced if wolf packs used wormholes to bypass the intel channels and gank pipelines and go into deep nullsec. They would be forced away from "the big draw" of nullsec for most of their members (which is to rack up big ISK running anoms) and do combat patrols instead. Even big fleet battles would not happen.
All warfare is ultimately economic. Even if you can't win, you can still drain an enemy dry by making them spend way more money than you. This is why dropping a $50K bomb on a $50 truck never wins wars.
Ya maybe not but you have to admit it does look cool and create a big mess :) |
Scaramanga Erquilenne
56
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Posted - 2013.06.19 00:32:00 -
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Gallowmere Rorschach wrote:Scaramanga Erquilenne wrote:Okay 6 jumps out from goon HQ ran in to a goon bubble trap just one of them running it .Engaged the ship and it ran off ,must have throught I was a Ruse for a bigger force behind me lol.Well made it ti within one jump of the HQ and ran in to a gate camp.About 8 of them I was blinded could not lock anything , 30 seconds and its all over
But had some fun along the way :) Wait wait...you just lost a battleship, to a gatecamp, you're not raging over it, and you're from highsec? What the hell is even happening in Eve today? O_O
Well it was just a Brutix TBH I am not rich enough to replace a Battle ship decided to leave that back at the ranch.Was nice having a poke around there backyard :) Fired on a few station with 0 effect , searched a few of there systems for a easy target but they have all fallen back to the gates one jump from there HQ :) You have your way. I have my way. As for the right way, the correct way, and the only way, it does not exist-á |
Kharaxus
Native Freshfood Minmatar Republic
6
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Posted - 2013.06.19 00:43:00 -
[47] - Quote
[https://twitter.com/geistreiches/status/347135209088614400/photo/1[/]
That's awesome. I wanna screenshot like that too.
Apparently we go to VFK - IV to get them..... |
Setaceous
Nexus Prima
120
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Posted - 2013.06.19 00:58:00 -
[48] - Quote
Gallowmere Rorschach wrote:Scaramanga Erquilenne wrote:Okay 6 jumps out from goon HQ ran in to a goon bubble trap just one of them running it .Engaged the ship and it ran off ,must have throught I was a Ruse for a bigger force behind me lol.Well made it ti within one jump of the HQ and ran in to a gate camp.About 8 of them I was blinded could not lock anything , 30 seconds and its all over
But had some fun along the way :) Wait wait...you just lost a battleship, to a gatecamp, you're not raging over it, and you're from highsec? What the hell is even happening in Eve today? O_O Not all of us are like that, most of us accept that if we poke a beehive we're going to get stung. |
Khergit Deserters
1220
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Posted - 2013.06.19 01:33:00 -
[49] - Quote
Go, dog, go! Shoot, get blowed up, get podded, reship and go back. Sending some expenses isk. |
Andski
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
8268
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Posted - 2013.06.19 01:51:00 -
[50] - Quote
Miss Altiana wrote:There are otherways to draw their resources then fighting, train cloaking 1, get a crap ship, fit with cheap mods, and a cheap cloak, then flood their areas with presence, if no one is there you can tag their structures, and then go into hiding, keep doing that, and they need to keep a presence, also, while your in systems, they need to guard their transports, miners need to look ower their shoulders, things suddenly become troublesome, they know your there, but they dont know really who
At times just shadow play can do more damage then trying to actually kill or blow up things, in any case good luck on your task, and no matter how it goes, have fun !
so uh have you ever actually set foot in 0.0 Twitter: @EVEAndski
TheMittani.com: The premier source for news, commentary and discussion of EVE Online and other games of interest.-á |
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Miss Altiana
Federal Navy Academy Gallente Federation
3
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Posted - 2013.06.19 02:05:00 -
[51] - Quote
Alavaria Fera wrote:Miss Altiana wrote:Harry Forever wrote:no fleet no tactic, invasion! nobody is there! blow them up! 19 jumps to go! move on!
suicide mission! **** we can do it! There are otherways to draw their resources then fighting, train cloaking 1, get a crap ship, fit with cheap mods, and a cheap cloak, then flood their areas with presence, if no one is there you can tag their structures, and then go into hiding, keep doing that, and they need to keep a presence, also, while your in systems, they need to guard their transports, miners need to look ower their shoulders, things suddenly become troublesome, they know your there, but they dont know really who At times just shadow play can do more damage then trying to actually kill or blow up things, in any case good luck on your task, and no matter how it goes, have fun ! Join PL and bring a cyno and some liquid ozone.
Im in CAS on my main, and if id get involved, id try bring som old merry friends from CAS, they might ewen wish to come for old times sake ;P, but then again CAS is CAS, might just be me, or hundred |
Scally Dog
Killing is Business Get Off My Lawn
6
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Posted - 2013.06.19 02:41:00 -
[52] - Quote
This will certainly keep the rats busy |
silens vesica
Corsair Cartel
1938
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Posted - 2013.06.19 03:03:00 -
[53] - Quote
Gallowmere Rorschach wrote:Thorleifer wrote:This thread will end in many tears, and I am not thinking they will be coming from the goonheads. And it is precisely this attitude of "why bother?" that prevents fun **** from happening in Eve a lot of the time. Don't do it because you can win. Do it to say that you rolled the **** up there and did it, even if you get sent home in thousands of pubbie pods. Just so.
Recently did a VentureRoam into GoonSpace. We all died in various fires along the way, but it was fun. So who cares? We're immortal capsuleers! Burn a clone for the cause! Tell someone you love them today, because life is short. But scream it at them in Esperanto, because life is also terrifying and confusing.
Didn't vote? Then you voted for NulBloc |
Setaceous
Nexus Prima
122
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Posted - 2013.06.19 03:11:00 -
[54] - Quote
silens vesica wrote:Gallowmere Rorschach wrote:Thorleifer wrote:This thread will end in many tears, and I am not thinking they will be coming from the goonheads. And it is precisely this attitude of "why bother?" that prevents fun **** from happening in Eve a lot of the time. Don't do it because you can win. Do it to say that you rolled the **** up there and did it, even if you get sent home in thousands of pubbie pods. Just so. Recently did a VentureRoam into GoonSpace. We all died in various fires along the way, but it was fun. So who cares? We're immortal capsuleers! Burn a clone for the cause! Indeed. I kind of wish there was one of these things during Oceanic playtime, I have a corp hanger filled with T1 frigates that haven't undocked for ages. |
Robus Muvila
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
464
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Posted - 2013.06.19 04:05:00 -
[55] - Quote
Nothing is permanent. Even GSF won't last forever (Or Eve will close) but if I had to pick a way for GSF to end. A massive flotilla of Pissed off highseccers would be something I could tell my grandkids. TMC Senior Developer http://themittani.com - Because EvE has needed a proper news site for ages |
Ace Uoweme
Republic Military School Minmatar Republic
269
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Posted - 2013.06.19 04:15:00 -
[56] - Quote
Harry Forever wrote:CareBears Unite and lets hit the goons from behind!
Pay for all ships + implants lost may consider it.
Otherwise, more profits to be made out of trades. "In a world of universal deceit, telling the truth is a revolutionary act." ~George Orwell
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Laserak
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
29
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Posted - 2013.06.19 04:27:00 -
[57] - Quote
Hit me baby
one more time |
Erotica 1
Krypteia Operations
576
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Posted - 2013.06.19 04:46:00 -
[58] - Quote
With Harry in VFK and me in B-DBYQ, it is only a matter of time before the CFC empire crumbles. Now we just need a few thousand volunteers from high sec. See Bio for isk doubling rules. -áIf you didn't read bio, chances are you helped fund those who did. |
Josef Djugashvilis
Acme Mining Corporation
1276
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Posted - 2013.06.19 05:40:00 -
[59] - Quote
Harry Forever wrote:CareBears Unite and lets hit the goons from behind!
lets start a 24 hour invasion with our mission ships
VFK is the target! set destination and go go go!
yes 7 days a week, all go there now!
shoot everything that moves!
Tough guy null-sec alt detected. This is not a signature. |
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ISD Gallifreyan
ISD Community Communications Liaisons
182
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Posted - 2013.06.19 05:56:00 -
[60] - Quote
I see what you did there.
" Carebears Unite! and lets hit the goons from Beehind! "
I like the idea of high-sec carebears banding together to defeat null-sec power blocks. The issue is hearding the cats. ISD Gallifreyan Lieutenant Community Communication Liaisons (CCLs) Interstellar Services Department |
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Evangelina Nolen
Sama Guild
2
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Posted - 2013.06.19 05:59:00 -
[61] - Quote
Chances of this happening are lower than CCP letting us re-allocate skill points. |
Turelus
Caldari Independent Navy Reserve The Fourth District
409
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Posted - 2013.06.19 06:55:00 -
[62] - Quote
Better yet, get a swarm of people with ships that can carry an SBU (do they fit in a cloaky hauler?) then go and SBU random systems all over Deklein meaning they need to go and kill all of them. THAT would be annoying to them, instead of a large fleet of Empire players that don't know how to PVP going and welping ships to them. Lieutenant Turelus
Caldari Independent Navy Reserve
The Fourth District |
Trii Seo
Sabotage Incorporated Executive Outcomes
39
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Posted - 2013.06.19 07:15:00 -
[63] - Quote
I have bad news for you, my friend. Both of you that participated in the attack.
In your agreement to engage in combat, you have ceased to be a carebear. Oh sure, you lost your pod and have been returned to hisec. You have returned to your carebear brethren for now, but unlike them you aren't just about words. You have balls.
Soon you will want more of the joy that accompanied you on your journey. You will research fittings, equip better, go into lowsec and before you realize it - you will start looking down on carebears and ganking them for your own amusement. In your act of defiance against the mighty coalition that ruins all aspects of existence...
...YOU HAVE BECOME A GOON*!
Also you have more balls than most hisec people. Now get out there, fight the good fight. Tell them it's possible and send a few navy/pirate battleships with full faction/deadspace fitting into the sweet embrace of EC- campers!
*well, mostly a goon given the meaning of the word but just like them. Bad and evil. Is it Hotdrop O'Clock yet? |
Setaceous
Nexus Prima
122
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Posted - 2013.06.19 07:19:00 -
[64] - Quote
Trii Seo wrote:I have bad news for you, my friend. Both of you that participated in the attack.
In your agreement to engage in combat, you have ceased to be a carebear. Oh sure, you lost your pod and have been returned to hisec. You have returned to your carebear brethren for now, but unlike them you aren't just about words. You have balls.
Soon you will want more of the joy that accompanied you on your journey. You will research fittings, equip better, go into lowsec and before you realize it - you will start looking down on carebears and ganking them for your own amusement. In your act of defiance against the mighty coalition that ruins all aspects of existence...
...YOU HAVE BECOME A GOON!
Also you have more balls than most hisec people. Now get out there, fight the good fight. Tell them it's possible and send a few navy/pirate battleships with full faction/deadspace fitting into the sweet embrace of EC- campers! Pffft. I haven't seen evidence of actual Goons in this game yet. Merely taking the name and acting like a douche doesn't cut it. Real Goons would have burned this game to the ground years ago and pissed on the ashes laughing. The "Goons" here actually care enough to keep things interesting for others. |
Trii Seo
Sabotage Incorporated Executive Outcomes
39
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Posted - 2013.06.19 07:22:00 -
[65] - Quote
They actually are real Goons, they just kinda like spaceships so they've taken from "ruin the game" to "ruin your game so we can have fun."
Just try holding on to something they want, even if it's your dignity... Is it Hotdrop O'Clock yet? |
Setaceous
Nexus Prima
123
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Posted - 2013.06.19 07:42:00 -
[66] - Quote
Trii Seo wrote:They actually are real Goons, they just kinda like spaceships so they've taken from "ruin the game" to "ruin your game so we can have fun."
Just try holding on to something they want, even if it's your dignity... Joke's on them, I have no dignity |
Harry Forever
SpaceJunkys
96
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Posted - 2013.06.19 07:56:00 -
[67] - Quote
Scaramanga Erquilenne wrote:Okay 6 jumps out from goon HQ ran in to a goon bubble trap just one of them running it .Engaged the ship and it ran off ,must have throught I was a Ruse for a bigger force behind me lol.Well made it ti within one jump of the HQ and ran in to a gate camp.About 8 of them I was blinded could not lock anything , 30 seconds and its all over
But had some fun along the way :)
great to hear :D next time we go together and use some better equipment! looks like they got prepared now because they know whats comming :DD OMG! the asteroid is depleted! |
Harry Forever
SpaceJunkys
96
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Posted - 2013.06.19 08:02:00 -
[68] - Quote
Kharaxus wrote:That's awesome. I wanna screenshot like that too. Apparently we go to VFK - IV to get them.....
:D it was crazy! when i went through that first bubble i new this would by my day :D they better but the dogs out and watch their front door :DD we should try togher next time! OMG! the asteroid is depleted! |
Harry Forever
SpaceJunkys
96
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Posted - 2013.06.19 08:07:00 -
[69] - Quote
Setaceous wrote:silens vesica wrote:Gallowmere Rorschach wrote:Thorleifer wrote:This thread will end in many tears, and I am not thinking they will be coming from the goonheads. And it is precisely this attitude of "why bother?" that prevents fun **** from happening in Eve a lot of the time. Don't do it because you can win. Do it to say that you rolled the **** up there and did it, even if you get sent home in thousands of pubbie pods. Just so. Recently did a VentureRoam into GoonSpace. We all died in various fires along the way, but it was fun. So who cares? We're immortal capsuleers! Burn a clone for the cause! Indeed. I kind of wish there was one of these things during Oceanic playtime, I have a corp hanger filled with T1 frigates that haven't undocked for ages.
yea thats what i mean, i trashed that catalyst which i never would have used again for sure, cheap jump clone on the way, just leave the garbage infront of their castle :DD OMG! the asteroid is depleted! |
Ace Uoweme
Republic Military School Minmatar Republic
269
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Posted - 2013.06.19 08:10:00 -
[70] - Quote
Evangelina Nolen wrote:Chances of this happening are lower than CCP letting us re-allocate skill points.
Yep.
Because there's no benefit.
Losing ships + implants for a dog and pony show isn't worth the effort.
The prime problem is the old EvE motto: if you can't afford losing it, don't do it -- and I'm not inclined in throwing away 170mil+ each time on some blob, which once defeated is supplanted by another blob. Wash. Rinse. Repeat ad nauseum . "In a world of universal deceit, telling the truth is a revolutionary act." ~George Orwell
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smokess
Vengeful Swan
50
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Posted - 2013.06.19 08:32:00 -
[71] - Quote
Harry Forever wrote:they missed me!! :DD I'm engaging their front door!! :DD
I thought you were going to engage their back door? |
Gealbhan
Deep Core Mining Inc. Caldari State
298
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Posted - 2013.06.19 08:39:00 -
[72] - Quote
Hmm a guerilla war... hit and run tactics & supply disruption. A fleet of cloaked ships phasing in and out of systems picking off targets then vanishing again.
While a William Wallace style romantic notion it is it would be more like D-day but for carebears. corpses, corpses everywhere. Also, Goon alt detected looking to rack up easy kills. |
Harry Forever
SpaceJunkys
101
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Posted - 2013.06.19 08:40:00 -
[73] - Quote
Mallak Azaria wrote:Quick, someone give these guys docking rights so they can replace their ships & get back in to the battle quickly.
you have been too slow https://twitter.com/geistreiches/status/347271070723739648/photo/1 OMG! the asteroid is depleted! |
OldWolf69
IR0N. SpaceMonkey's Alliance
58
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Posted - 2013.06.19 08:43:00 -
[74] - Quote
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Tara Read
The Bastards Shadow Cartel
409
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Posted - 2013.06.19 09:47:00 -
[75] - Quote
You are not alone Harry. Like the Rohirrim I have gone from Moon to Star! 50 jumps and 5 Leagues as the Ibis flies to aid you in your struggle! With my Horn sounding and my Civilian Electron Blaster I took the fight to the CFC! The time has come my brothers!
Thief and Miner! Devil and Ratter! Put aside the Bear! The time is now! We shall hurl our mighty Velator's like arrows in a tempest at our enemy!
I come bearing PROOF! Proof that for 5 minutes I held the CFC in absolute terror as volley after volley from my Civilian Blasters ate away at their living quarters. Children screamed and Women wept as my rounds swept through bedroom, kitchen and yes even The Mittani's Private Midget Sex Chamber....
Rejoice! For even though my lifeless corpse be floating for them to sodomize I am reborn! TO me Harry! Pirate and Carebear Unite!
http://imgur.com/MEtfrn7,aV1ZQlC,MKh8wVo#0
http://imgur.com/MEtfrn7,aV1ZQlC,MKh8wVo#1
http://imgur.com/MEtfrn7,aV1ZQlC,MKh8wVo#2 |
Alavaria Fera
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
3710
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Posted - 2013.06.19 10:02:00 -
[76] - Quote
Turelus wrote:Better yet, get a swarm of people with ships that can carry an SBU (do they fit in a cloaky hauler?) then go and SBU random systems all over Deklein meaning they need to go and kill all of them. THAT would be annoying to them, instead of a large fleet of Empire players that don't know how to PVP going and welping ships to them. Yes, a cloaky hauler can fit an SBU.
They aren't exactly cheap if you're mining in highsec for your isk though - I think I asked and it was like (nearly 180 million sell on Jita).
f you're fine with throwing that away to feed Boat another 20minute structure shoot then good for you I suppose. I am a nullsec zealot. |
Turelus
Caldari Independent Navy Reserve The Fourth District
410
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Posted - 2013.06.19 11:01:00 -
[77] - Quote
Alavaria Fera wrote:Turelus wrote:Better yet, get a swarm of people with ships that can carry an SBU (do they fit in a cloaky hauler?) then go and SBU random systems all over Deklein meaning they need to go and kill all of them. THAT would be annoying to them, instead of a large fleet of Empire players that don't know how to PVP going and welping ships to them. Yes, a cloaky hauler can fit an SBU. They aren't exactly cheap if you're mining in highsec for your isk though - I think I asked and it was like (nearly 180 million sell on Jita). f you're fine with throwing that away to feed Boat another 20minute structure shoot then good for you I suppose. Well I never said it would be effective or efficient! Only that it's more likely to annoy your alliance than giving you all free killmails! Although I would like to see the kinds of ships the masses would turn up in, assuming it's players who have never left Empire and are still too young to understand what is really being asked of them you could end up seeing multiple faction and officer spawns in your space. Lieutenant Turelus
Caldari Independent Navy Reserve
The Fourth District |
dexington
Dexington Corporation
668
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Posted - 2013.06.19 11:05:00 -
[78] - Quote
Shepard Wong Ogeko wrote:And I haven't had a chance to blap a mission boat since the last Burn Jita.
Are you saying eating blue doughnuts made you fat? I'm a relatively respectable citizen. Multiple felon perhaps, but certainly not dangerous. |
Sirane Elrek
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
173
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Posted - 2013.06.19 11:08:00 -
[79] - Quote
dexington wrote:Shepard Wong Ogeko wrote:And I haven't had a chance to blap a mission boat since the last Burn Jita. Are you saying eating blue doughnuts made you fat? no, being a goon made him fat
also the pink ones with sprinkles are better |
Harry Forever
SpaceJunkys
102
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Posted - 2013.06.19 12:27:00 -
[80] - Quote
Tara Read wrote:You are not alone Harry. Like the Rohirrim I have gone from Moon to Star! 50 jumps and 5 Leagues as the Ibis flies to aid you in your struggle! With my Horn sounding and my Civilian Electron Blaster I took the fight to the CFC! The time has come my brothers! Thief and Miner! Devil and Ratter! Put aside the Bear! The time is now! We shall hurl our mighty Velator's like arrows in a tempest at our enemy! I come bearing PROOF! Proof that for 5 minutes I held the CFC in absolute terror as volley after volley from my Civilian Blasters ate away at their living quarters. Children screamed and Women wept as my rounds swept through bedroom, kitchen and yes even The Mittani's Private Midget Sex Chamber.... Rejoice! For even though my lifeless corpse be floating for them to sodomize I am reborn! TO me Harry! Pirate and Carebear Unite! http://imgur.com/MEtfrn7,aV1ZQlC,MKh8wVo#0http://imgur.com/MEtfrn7,aV1ZQlC,MKh8wVo#1http://imgur.com/MEtfrn7,aV1ZQlC,MKh8wVo#2
:DD oh yes! what a glorious day!! lets light up that base like a christmas tree!
this is just the beginning! VFK burn! 24 hours a day! OMG! the asteroid is depleted! |
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Trii Seo
Sabotage Incorporated Executive Outcomes
42
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Posted - 2013.06.19 13:32:00 -
[81] - Quote
Splendid, but it will take MORE than that to defeat the goons! To truly oppose the masters of metagaming, day-ruining and their mighty battlefleets (under the command of the Great Admiral - Huge Maroon Vessel) you must form a fleet that will be a force to be reckoned with!
(For a humble price I will reveal the super secret weakness of their main battle fleet. If you throw a bonus, I will gladly direct you to one of their fine, easily corruptible recruiters that will surely let your spy into the mighty armada!) Is it Hotdrop O'Clock yet? |
Ramona McCandless
Standards and Practices Petition Blizzard
414
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Posted - 2013.06.19 13:37:00 -
[82] - Quote
Trii Seo wrote:Splendid, but it will take MORE than that to defeat the goons! To truly oppose the masters of metagaming, day-ruining and their mighty battlefleets (under the command of the Great Admiral - Huge Maroon Vessel) you must form a fleet that will be a force to be reckoned with!
(For a humble price I will reveal the super secret weakness of their main battle fleet. If you throw a bonus, I will gladly direct you to one of their fine, easily corruptible recruiters that will surely let your spy into the mighty armada!)
Don't worry, Harry's inability to speak, spell or hold a coherent conversation for more than a few secs will soon break their will to live
Tell The Others |
Sergeant Acht Scultz
School of Applied Knowledge Caldari State
857
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Posted - 2013.06.19 13:41:00 -
[83] - Quote
Ramona McCandless wrote:Trii Seo wrote:Splendid, but it will take MORE than that to defeat the goons! To truly oppose the masters of metagaming, day-ruining and their mighty battlefleets (under the command of the Great Admiral - Huge Maroon Vessel) you must form a fleet that will be a force to be reckoned with!
(For a humble price I will reveal the super secret weakness of their main battle fleet. If you throw a bonus, I will gladly direct you to one of their fine, easily corruptible recruiters that will surely let your spy into the mighty armada!) Don't worry, Harry's inability to speak, spell or hold a coherent conversation for more than a few secs will soon break their will to live
Whenever I see Harry's Bantam I start having chuckles and goose pumps, my T3 close to it doesn't even aloud me to uncloak and try to kill its mighty Bantam while he's admirably making local more fun.
They should come in numbers like this but please don't bring more powerful Bantams or Rifters, we can't deal with that *removed inappropriate ASCII art signature* - CCP Eterne |
flakeys
Interstellar Corporation of Science and Technology Interstellar Confederation
1193
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Posted - 2013.06.19 14:00:00 -
[84] - Quote
Robus Muvila wrote:This happening would be the most incredible thing in Eve history.
No the OP making a decent post , THAT would be the most incredible thing in eve history.
Harry the clown .... making crap turn into .... crap .
We are all born ignorant, but one must work hard to remain stupid.
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SKINE DMZ
The Scope Gallente Federation
11
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Posted - 2013.06.19 14:10:00 -
[85] - Quote
I am impressed harry, and will be joining you on your quest to **** on their doorstep. over and over again |
Harry Forever
SpaceJunkys
104
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Posted - 2013.06.19 14:35:00 -
[86] - Quote
news from the front! only 12 hours later i was checking out their hideout again,trashing one of their t2 ships with an 700k atron!
one more in my fleet and that bastard would have gone to heaven! :D
https://twitter.com/geistreiches/status/347361119054229504/photo/1
https://twitter.com/geistreiches/status/347361362210594817/photo/1 OMG! the asteroid is depleted! |
Khergit Deserters
1223
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Posted - 2013.06.19 15:04:00 -
[87] - Quote
Che Guevara, Geronimo, William Wallace, V, Frodo, Don Quixote-- crazy little guy going against the odds is a fine tradition. Go 'bears! Win or lose, you'll have some stories to tell. |
Ramona McCandless
Standards and Practices Petition Blizzard
416
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Posted - 2013.06.19 15:06:00 -
[88] - Quote
Khergit Deserters wrote:Che Guevara, Geronimo, William Wallace, V, Frodo, Don Quixote-- crazy little guy going against the odds is a fine tradition. Go 'bears! Win or lose, you'll have some stories to tell.
Some of these people aren't real, you do know that don't you?
Tell The Others |
Khergit Deserters
1223
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Posted - 2013.06.19 15:26:00 -
[89] - Quote
Ramona McCandless wrote:Khergit Deserters wrote:Che Guevara, Geronimo, William Wallace, V, Frodo, Don Quixote-- crazy little guy going against the odds is a fine tradition. Go 'bears! Win or lose, you'll have some stories to tell. Some of these people aren't real, you do know that don't you? Oh, they're more than real. They're part of the Jungian hero myth of every culture. Kitchen swabby Galahad goes on an adventure and finds the grail. Poor Cinderella goes on an adventure and becomes a princess. Carebear leaves his Retriever and goes to the land of the Goons. You know, the universal hero myth. |
RAIN Arthie
The Ascended Fleet Tribal Band
70
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Posted - 2013.06.19 15:39:00 -
[90] - Quote
Unfortunantly it's not that simple. In mission running ships they would hot drop you with 1000 half of which being leigon's. Your FC better be GOD. |
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Jimmy Morane
Aurora Novae Aetatis Expoit This Mf's
20
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Posted - 2013.06.19 16:14:00 -
[91] - Quote
Harry, I am kind of impressed, but you are still a clown. HO, whats this? *sniff* *sniff sniff* *sniff sniff sniff* hmmmm I smell barbequed ALT |
silens vesica
Corsair Cartel
1944
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Posted - 2013.06.19 18:52:00 -
[92] - Quote
ISD Gallifreyan wrote:I see what you did there.
" Carebears Unite! and lets hit the goons from Beehind! "
I like the idea of high-sec carebears banding together to defeat null-sec power blocks. The issue is hearding the cats. Herding cats is easy. Open a can of tuna where you want the to be.
In my case, 'fun' is fishy enough. Other folks may need something a little stinkier. Tell someone you love them today, because life is short. But scream it at them in Esperanto, because life is also terrifying and confusing.
Didn't vote? Then you voted for NulBloc |
Herzog Wolfhammer
Sigma Special Tactics Group
2898
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Posted - 2013.06.19 18:56:00 -
[93] - Quote
Looks like some people had a good time.
And in a game no less.
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Tara Read
The Bastards Shadow Cartel
413
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Posted - 2013.06.19 20:41:00 -
[94] - Quote
Khergit Deserters wrote:Che Guevara, Geronimo, William Wallace, V, Frodo, Don Quixote-- crazy little guy going against the odds is a fine tradition. Go 'bears! Win or lose, you'll have some stories to tell.
FOR FRODO!!! |
Yishana Izia
Imperial Academy Amarr Empire
4
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Posted - 2013.06.19 20:58:00 -
[95] - Quote
Tara Read wrote:Khergit Deserters wrote:Che Guevara, Geronimo, William Wallace, V, Frodo, Don Quixote-- crazy little guy going against the odds is a fine tradition. Go 'bears! Win or lose, you'll have some stories to tell. FOR FRODO!!!
no no
FOR HODOR!!!! |
Kharaxus
Native Freshfood Minmatar Republic
7
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Posted - 2013.06.19 23:29:00 -
[96] - Quote
KOOLAID!!!!!! |
silens vesica
Corsair Cartel
1946
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Posted - 2013.06.20 00:11:00 -
[97] - Quote
Oh, Yeaaaaah..! Tell someone you love them today, because life is short. But scream it at them in Esperanto, because life is also terrifying and confusing.
Didn't vote? Then you voted for NulBloc |
silens vesica
Corsair Cartel
1946
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Posted - 2013.06.20 00:13:00 -
[98] - Quote
Trii Seo wrote:
...YOU HAVE BECOME A GOON*!
Bought a stack of Catalysts. Training an alt to fly them properly...
(Whinging over Odyssey ice-mining changes pushed me over the edge)
Ace Uoweme wrote: Because there's no benefit.
Losing ships + implants for a dog and pony show isn't worth the effort.
The prime problem is the old EvE motto: if you can't afford losing it, don't do it -- and I'm not inclined in throwing away 170mil+ each time on some blob, which once defeated is supplanted by another blob. Wash. Rinse. Repeat ad nauseum .
This is why God (or CCP - I'm confused on the issue) invented Alts. Tell someone you love them today, because life is short. But scream it at them in Esperanto, because life is also terrifying and confusing.
Didn't vote? Then you voted for NulBloc |
Trii Seo
Sabotage Incorporated Executive Outcomes
43
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Posted - 2013.06.20 11:18:00 -
[99] - Quote
Or warped off. You know, 'cause he's kind of not pointed.
Crank it up, bring out the big ships and skills honed by blasting rats 23/7. VFK or bust!
(*probably bust but swing by Cloud Ring first for a check-up. We will check if you're truly read to fight the Goonkind.) Is it Hotdrop O'Clock yet? |
Bok Molkar
Jovian Labs Jovian Enterprises
1
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Posted - 2013.06.20 11:55:00 -
[100] - Quote
This was a wildly entertaining read this morning. |
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BURRITO CHUNKS
25 TA LIFE
1
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Posted - 2013.06.20 11:58:00 -
[101] - Quote
Jimmy Morane wrote:Harry, I am kind of impressed, but you are still a clown. HO, whats this? *sniff* *sniff sniff* *sniff sniff sniff* hmmmm I smell barbequed ALT
you're kind of a clown yourself, honestly. |
Harry Forever
SpaceJunkys
105
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Posted - 2013.06.20 13:04:00 -
[102] - Quote
BURRITO CHUNKS wrote:Jimmy Morane wrote:Harry, I am kind of impressed, but you are still a clown. HO, whats this? *sniff* *sniff sniff* *sniff sniff sniff* hmmmm I smell barbequed ALT you're kind of a clown yourself, honestly.
that guy is so pathetic OMG! the asteroid is depleted! |
Jenn aSide
STK Scientific Initiative Mercenaries
2223
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Posted - 2013.06.20 13:07:00 -
[103] - Quote
Harry Forever wrote:
Carebears Unite! and lets hit the goons from behind!
I'm all for hitting things from the back of those same things, but you'll never get carebears to do anything for themselves but carebear, then run to the forums to tell mommy someone hit them....from the back.... |
Ghazu
600
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Posted - 2013.06.20 13:40:00 -
[104] - Quote
highsec carebears can't even tell their head from their behinds http://www.minerbumping.com/
lol what the christ https://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=posts&m=2299984#post2299984 |
Thorn Galen
Bene Gesserit ChapterHouse Sanctuary Pact
1203
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Posted - 2013.06.20 14:53:00 -
[105] - Quote
One does not simply walk into Mordor...... Personnel Division Director - Bene Gesserit Chapterhouse CEO Sanctuary Pact Alliance --áSanctuary Pact |
Little Dancer
Caldari Provisions Caldari State
1
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Posted - 2013.06.20 15:06:00 -
[106] - Quote
Harry - for a little bit of fun - how about going to Karan - thats TEST new home. Why single out one Null Sec Organization over another? When they all are out to get the folks living in High Sec.
Lets not all forget that TEST were major parts in the Burn Jita's, the Ice Interdiction, and Hulkageddon.
But because TEST had made enemies of their friends, and Goon's need the extra revenue with the Odyssey Changes - everyone is jumping on the bandwagon to kill Goons.
I have been following the stories on EN24 and TM.C - and I must say, EN24 is a laughing joke. There is so much open biased towards anything Goon related, heck, lets call it what it is, HATRED. Yet, the TM.C - their stories are well written, researched, and provided from all angles, not just the Goon Side. Sure Goons love to troll with their comments, but lets look at the stories themselves. And the information they provide. |
Harry Forever
SpaceJunkys
106
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Posted - 2013.06.20 16:17:00 -
[107] - Quote
Little Dancer wrote:Harry - for a little bit of fun - how about going to Karan - thats TEST new home. Why single out one Null Sec Organization over another? When they all are out to get the folks living in High Sec. Lets not all forget that TEST were major parts in the Burn Jita's, the Ice Interdiction, and Hulkageddon. But because TEST had made enemies of their friends, and Goon's need the extra revenue with the Odyssey Changes - everyone is jumping on the bandwagon to kill Goons. I have been following the stories on EN24 and TM.C - and I must say, EN24 is a laughing joke. There is so much open biased towards anything Goon related, heck, lets call it what it is, HATRED. Yet, the TM.C - their stories are well written, researched, and provided from all angles, not just the Goon Side. Sure Goons love to troll with their comments, but lets look at the stories themselves. And the information they provide.
I did not read much about the news, I just don't like the philosophy of the goons, they like making fun about others, don't get me wrong for sure there are goons out there who show some respect to the new but most of them don't behave that way
in general there are way to many people who think it is really funny to laugh about others, and i got the feeling it started with the goons as they are pushing in that direction
there are some options however, they can surrender, replace mittani with another CEO, and rename the mittanigrade into freedome tower... VFK from that point anwards should be a place where all hisec carebears can mine in piece, we won't stop until that is happening
TEST however have a different philosophy, i did see some videos where they said every ship counts also new and unexperienced capsuleers, nevertehless also in that alliance there are som black sheeps, which need to be silenced... however i still have the hope TEST is taking care of those on their own and find back to their roots OMG! the asteroid is depleted! |
Little Dancer
Caldari Provisions Caldari State
1
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Posted - 2013.06.20 16:48:00 -
[108] - Quote
Harry Forever wrote:TEST however have a different philosophy, i did see some videos where they said every ship counts also new and unexperienced capsuleers, nevertehless also in that alliance there are som black sheeps, which need to be silenced... however i still have the hope TEST is taking care of those on their own and find back to their roots
You seem to forget part of your history, because it's convenient for you. TEST were once part of the CFC, they were taken in and taught everything they know. And has every child does against their parent, they rebelled. So for TEST to go back to their "roots" as you call it, that means going back to the CFC, and everything they stand for. They have not forgotten their roots, they just have focused themselves on the wrong target. And like any good parent has to do, Goons are discipling a child. |
Harry Forever
SpaceJunkys
107
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Posted - 2013.06.20 16:54:00 -
[109] - Quote
Little Dancer wrote:Harry Forever wrote:TEST however have a different philosophy, i did see some videos where they said every ship counts also new and unexperienced capsuleers, nevertehless also in that alliance there are som black sheeps, which need to be silenced... however i still have the hope TEST is taking care of those on their own and find back to their roots You seem to forget part of your history, because it's convenient for you. TEST were once part of the CFC, they were taken in and taught everything they know. And has every child does against their parent, they rebelled. So for TEST to go back to their "roots" as you call it, that means going back to the CFC, and everything they stand for. They have not forgotten their roots, they just have focused themselves on the wrong target. And like any good parent has to do, Goons are discipling a child.
no! i mean the roots of THEIR philosophy, thei did move on because their leader has different oppinions, it is very clear OMG! the asteroid is depleted! |
Moth Eisig
The Trident Brotherhood
13
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Posted - 2013.06.20 16:57:00 -
[110] - Quote
Little Dancer wrote:Harry Forever wrote:TEST however have a different philosophy, i did see some videos where they said every ship counts also new and unexperienced capsuleers, nevertehless also in that alliance there are som black sheeps, which need to be silenced... however i still have the hope TEST is taking care of those on their own and find back to their roots You seem to forget part of your history, because it's convenient for you. TEST were once part of the CFC, they were taken in and taught everything they know. And has every child does against their parent, they rebelled. So for TEST to go back to their "roots" as you call it, that means going back to the CFC, and everything they stand for. They have not forgotten their roots, they just have focused themselves on the wrong target. And like any good parent has to do, Goons are discipling a child.
I think you mean disciplining. Or was this a slip-up that means the Goons=Scientology thread was really on to something? |
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Frostys Virpio
Lame Corp Name
496
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Posted - 2013.06.20 17:24:00 -
[111] - Quote
Harry Forever wrote:
TEST however have a different philosophy, i did see some videos where they said every ship counts also new and unexperienced capsuleers, nevertehless also in that alliance there are som black sheeps, which need to be silenced... however i still have the hope TEST is taking care of those on their own and find back to their roots
http://images.mmorpg.com/images/galleries/full/292008/89f8016d-1659-40b3-a3f3-f3dd55aebc8f.jpg
Confirming Goons are not about every ship count. |
Harry Forever
SpaceJunkys
113
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Posted - 2013.06.20 17:29:00 -
[112] - Quote
Frostys Virpio wrote:Harry Forever wrote:
TEST however have a different philosophy, i did see some videos where they said every ship counts also new and unexperienced capsuleers, nevertehless also in that alliance there are som black sheeps, which need to be silenced... however i still have the hope TEST is taking care of those on their own and find back to their roots
http://images.mmorpg.com/images/galleries/full/292008/89f8016d-1659-40b3-a3f3-f3dd55aebc8f.jpgConfirming Goons are not about every ship count.
thats long ago their success has tainted their minds, and thats the point when greatest empires start to get weak OMG! the asteroid is depleted! |
Khergit Deserters
1228
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Posted - 2013.06.20 17:51:00 -
[113] - Quote
The point is, TEST is fighting Goons. Therefore TEST must be supported. It's like of Saruman were fighting Sauron. You may not like Saruman, but you have to support him. |
Kharaxus
Native Freshfood Minmatar Republic
8
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Posted - 2013.06.20 18:12:00 -
[114] - Quote
Well I got my screenshots. Wasn't surprised to see a bubble/gate camp directly after jumping into null sec, however was surprised I wasn't caught in it. http://imgur.com/gallery/JSYlj41
Made it to VFK! After doing some recon I will push forwards to setting up a battle camp. But first I need to go back to High-sec and do some mining to pay for the frigates. http://imgur.com/gallery/pgzObHh |
Harry Forever
SpaceJunkys
116
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Posted - 2013.06.20 18:18:00 -
[115] - Quote
Kharaxus wrote:Well I got my screenshots. Wasn't surprised to see a bubble/gate camp directly after jumping into null sec, however was surprised I wasn't caught in it. http://imgur.com/gallery/JSYlj41Made it to VFK! After doing some recon I will push forwards to setting up a battle camp. But first I need to go back to High-sec and do some mining to pay for the frigates. http://imgur.com/gallery/pgzObHh
great! I need to setup some rifters as well, they seem to be perfect for the job :D
look what i was able to do earlier today, the carebear strikes back! :D
https://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=posts&t=250537&find=unread
after this I jumped to my main clone to go mining and stuff as well, but I'm back at the front tomorrow! OMG! the asteroid is depleted! |
Skex Relbore
Space Exploitation Inc Get Off My Lawn
270
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Posted - 2013.06.20 18:23:00 -
[116] - Quote
Setaceous wrote:Trii Seo wrote:I have bad news for you, my friend. Both of you that participated in the attack.
In your agreement to engage in combat, you have ceased to be a carebear. Oh sure, you lost your pod and have been returned to hisec. You have returned to your carebear brethren for now, but unlike them you aren't just about words. You have balls.
Soon you will want more of the joy that accompanied you on your journey. You will research fittings, equip better, go into lowsec and before you realize it - you will start looking down on carebears and ganking them for your own amusement. In your act of defiance against the mighty coalition that ruins all aspects of existence...
...YOU HAVE BECOME A GOON!
Also you have more balls than most hisec people. Now get out there, fight the good fight. Tell them it's possible and send a few navy/pirate battleships with full faction/deadspace fitting into the sweet embrace of EC- campers! Pffft. I haven't seen evidence of actual Goons in this game yet. Merely taking the name and acting like a douche doesn't cut it. Real Goons would have burned this game to the ground years ago and pissed on the ashes laughing. The "Goons" here actually care enough to keep things interesting for others.
You sir have no idea what a Goon is, the Fellowship of 10bux loves this game and would never want to see such a ready source of pubbie tears removed. For so long as there be pubbie tears to harvest Goon's shall continue to carefully nurture and care for this awful game.
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Herzog Wolfhammer
Sigma Special Tactics Group
2905
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Posted - 2013.06.20 23:23:00 -
[117] - Quote
Wow there's some hate in this thread.
So why is it that carebears are so horribly maligned and when the notion of them making roams to nullsec come up (which is at the baseline what this is) here comes more hate?
But seriously, if you want to have some carebearish nullsec fun, don't send ships down into the gank pipelines just to die in a campfire and make the renters on the borders feel like the have a purpose. Form wolfpacks of bombers or bomber/blackops groups and use wormholes to go into DEEP null. Then bomb stuff.
Now if you think such a thing is futile, remember that for every ISK not being earned by those tasked to hunt your ass, there's one more being spent on the same endeavor. There's also the uncountable factor of everybody docked up in their POS and all those bots they would be afraid to launch too.
Fact is no wolfpack is going to take down a nullsec corp by any military means, but the damage in ISK and operations would be enough to put economic pressure on them and make life harder. The only reason why the nullbears are lording it up out there practically untouched in their blue donut is because nobody will be creative and do anything about it. CPP has already provided the tools so complaining about it in the forums is pointless .
And if there is hate to go around, I would bet that Mr. Nullsec who loves to complain "carebear this and carebear that" is going to cry like an interior decorator in a house fire when he can't do the one thing he gave up all but his game to do: run anoms and rat. And all because people wanted to stir up some trouble because... well because they can. Hulks used to get ganked because those doing it simply could.
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Herzog Wolfhammer
Sigma Special Tactics Group
2905
|
Posted - 2013.06.20 23:31:00 -
[118] - Quote
Harry Forever wrote:Kharaxus wrote:Well I got my screenshots. Wasn't surprised to see a bubble/gate camp directly after jumping into null sec, however was surprised I wasn't caught in it. http://imgur.com/gallery/JSYlj41Made it to VFK! After doing some recon I will push forwards to setting up a battle camp. But first I need to go back to High-sec and do some mining to pay for the frigates. http://imgur.com/gallery/pgzObHh great! I need to setup some rifters as well, they seem to be perfect for the job :D look what i was able to do earlier today, the carebear strikes back! :D https://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=posts&t=250537&find=unreadafter this I jumped to my main clone to go mining and stuff as well, but I'm back at the front tomorrow!
I like what you guys are doing. I got around 30 Ospreys that I'll donate the the endeavor. I built them for sh!ts and giggles experimenting with production and I got a BP for some runs of other ships too.
Last week I almost reprocessed the ships because - well I'm too lazy to sell them (like the billions in exploration and deadspace/faction modules from said exploration I have) but something told me "hold onto them, somebody might need them".
OK then, you want them, you got them. I think I can also build rifters but I'll have to check.
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Khergit Deserters
1232
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Posted - 2013.06.21 00:55:00 -
[119] - Quote
Herzog Wolfhammer wrote:Wow there's some hate in this thread.
So why is it that carebears are so horribly maligned and when the notion of them making roams to nullsec come up (which is at the baseline what this is) here comes more hate?
But seriously, if you want to have some carebearish nullsec fun, don't send ships down into the gank pipelines just to die in a campfire and make the renters on the borders feel like the have a purpose. Form wolfpacks of bombers or bomber/blackops groups and use wormholes to go into DEEP null. Then bomb stuff.
Now if you think such a thing is futile, remember that for every ISK not being earned by those tasked to hunt your ass, there's one more being spent on the same endeavor. There's also the uncountable factor of everybody docked up in their POS and all those bots they would be afraid to launch too.
Fact is no wolfpack is going to take down a nullsec corp by any military means, but the damage in ISK and operations would be enough to put economic pressure on them and make life harder. The only reason why the nullbears are lording it up out there practically untouched in their blue donut is because nobody will be creative and do anything about it. CPP has already provided the tools so complaining about it in the forums is pointless .
And if there is hate to go around, I would bet that Mr. Nullsec who loves to complain "carebear this and carebear that" is going to cry like an interior decorator in a house fire when he can't do the one thing he gave up all but his game to do: run anoms and rat. And all because people wanted to stir up some trouble because... well because they can. Hulks used to get ganked because those doing it simply could.
That is one fine post, sir. Listen up, you all. |
Gallowmere Rorschach
Alpha Strategy The Unthinkables
207
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Posted - 2013.06.21 02:13:00 -
[120] - Quote
Rifters aren't the op boat they once were. The tiericide knocked the crown of The Frigate King onto the floor. For the moment, it would appear that kitey missile boats like the Condor and the Hookbill and (relatively) heavy brawlers like the Merlin and the Incursus are currently fighting over it. |
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Herzog Wolfhammer
Sigma Special Tactics Group
2906
|
Posted - 2013.06.21 02:41:00 -
[121] - Quote
Gallowmere Rorschach wrote:Rifters aren't the op boat they once were. The tiericide knocked the crown of The Frigate King onto the floor. For the moment, it would appear that kitey missile boats like the Condor and the Hookbill and (relatively) heavy brawlers like the Merlin and the Incursus are currently fighting over it.
I have fancied that a Kestrel with good missile rigs and an AB can give a bloody nose or two. What of that hull on Post-Tiercide Eve? |
Gallowmere Rorschach
Alpha Strategy The Unthinkables
207
|
Posted - 2013.06.21 03:44:00 -
[122] - Quote
Herzog Wolfhammer wrote:Gallowmere Rorschach wrote:Rifters aren't the op boat they once were. The tiericide knocked the crown of The Frigate King onto the floor. For the moment, it would appear that kitey missile boats like the Condor and the Hookbill and (relatively) heavy brawlers like the Merlin and the Incursus are currently fighting over it. I have fancied that a Kestrel with good missile rigs and an AB can give a bloody nose or two. What of that hull on Post-Tiercide Eve? Kestrel is in the same group as the Condor and Hookbill. Basically, fit with light missiles, a long point, an MWD, a little tracking disruption, and just lolkite everything to death. |
Alavaria Fera
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
3716
|
Posted - 2013.06.21 03:49:00 -
[123] - Quote
Skex Relbore wrote:Setaceous wrote:Trii Seo wrote:I have bad news for you, my friend. Both of you that participated in the attack.
In your agreement to engage in combat, you have ceased to be a carebear. Oh sure, you lost your pod and have been returned to hisec. You have returned to your carebear brethren for now, but unlike them you aren't just about words. You have balls.
Soon you will want more of the joy that accompanied you on your journey. You will research fittings, equip better, go into lowsec and before you realize it - you will start looking down on carebears and ganking them for your own amusement. In your act of defiance against the mighty coalition that ruins all aspects of existence...
...YOU HAVE BECOME A GOON!
Also you have more balls than most hisec people. Now get out there, fight the good fight. Tell them it's possible and send a few navy/pirate battleships with full faction/deadspace fitting into the sweet embrace of EC- campers! Pffft. I haven't seen evidence of actual Goons in this game yet. Merely taking the name and acting like a douche doesn't cut it. Real Goons would have burned this game to the ground years ago and pissed on the ashes laughing. The "Goons" here actually care enough to keep things interesting for others. You sir have no idea what a Goon is, the Fellowship of 10bux loves this game and would never want to see such a ready source of pubbie tears removed. For so long as there be pubbie tears to harvest Goon's shall continue to carefully nurture and care for this awful game. So basically, EVE Online is on farm status.
There are no goons. The goons' 0.0 dream is over.
TEST Defence, Please Ignore |
Harry Forever
SpaceJunkys
133
|
Posted - 2013.06.21 11:29:00 -
[124] - Quote
Herzog Wolfhammer wrote:Harry Forever wrote:Kharaxus wrote:Well I got my screenshots. Wasn't surprised to see a bubble/gate camp directly after jumping into null sec, however was surprised I wasn't caught in it. http://imgur.com/gallery/JSYlj41Made it to VFK! After doing some recon I will push forwards to setting up a battle camp. But first I need to go back to High-sec and do some mining to pay for the frigates. http://imgur.com/gallery/pgzObHh great! I need to setup some rifters as well, they seem to be perfect for the job :D look what i was able to do earlier today, the carebear strikes back! :D https://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=posts&t=250537&find=unreadafter this I jumped to my main clone to go mining and stuff as well, but I'm back at the front tomorrow! I like what you guys are doing. I got around 30 Ospreys that I'll donate the the endeavor. I built them for sh!ts and giggles experimenting with production and I got a BP for some runs of other ships too. Last week I almost reprocessed the ships because - well I'm too lazy to sell them (like the billions in exploration and deadspace/faction modules from said exploration I have) but something told me "hold onto them, somebody might need them". OK then, you want them, you got them. I think I can also build rifters but I'll have to check.
:D great!! please contract them over! I bring them to the frontline right away! :D
everything you got to fillup my warchest would help! rifters would be perfekt! I will use them to carve your name into mittanis castle! :D OMG! the asteroid is depleted! |
Kijo Rikki
Powder and Ball Alchemists Union The Predictables
361
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Posted - 2013.06.21 13:54:00 -
[125] - Quote
I see a Falcon has jammed your enthusiasm. |
Harry Forever
SpaceJunkys
133
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Posted - 2013.06.21 14:14:00 -
[126] - Quote
Kijo Rikki wrote:I see a Falcon has jammed your enthusiasm.
birds are singing it from the trees already, kids are telling the story infront of campfires, the truth can not be stopped :D OMG! the asteroid is depleted! |
Mallak Azaria
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
3244
|
Posted - 2013.06.21 14:18:00 -
[127] - Quote
Now if you could just get DarthNefarious to stop running incursions to help you out, you could take VFK away from us. The guy who was sitting next to me in the first nullsec round table who had obviously not had a shower since before boarding his flight to Iceland, you really stank. You know who you are. |
Jenn aSide
STK Scientific Initiative Mercenaries
2248
|
Posted - 2013.06.21 14:21:00 -
[128] - Quote
Mallak Azaria wrote:Now if you could just get DarthNefarious to stop running incursions to help you out, you could take VFK away from us.
I see Mallak is adding stuff the the "things that will never happen file". |
Sergeant Acht Scultz
School of Applied Knowledge Caldari State
869
|
Posted - 2013.06.21 14:26:00 -
[129] - Quote
Harry Forever wrote:I did shoot at the base!! :DD got screenshots!! :DD
Apparently you just killed the myth Goons drop 20/1 since your Rifter is intact now for a couple days over there, weird enough you don't seen neither offended by their local posting nor seems anyone around is hunting you like Predator did on the old man.
How does it feel like?
What's your real experience on Goons territory and with those you dealt with?
*removed inappropriate ASCII art signature* - CCP Eterne |
Harry Forever
SpaceJunkys
136
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Posted - 2013.06.21 14:36:00 -
[130] - Quote
Mallak Azaria wrote:Now if you could just get DarthNefarious to stop running incursions to help you out, you could take VFK away from us.
who needs spies when there are goons who give tips how to destroy themselfes :D but thanks for the hint i shoot him a mail right away, keep looking out of the window, incursion fleet might be incoming shortly OMG! the asteroid is depleted! |
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Mallak Azaria
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
3245
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Posted - 2013.06.21 14:38:00 -
[131] - Quote
Harry Forever wrote:Mallak Azaria wrote:Now if you could just get DarthNefarious to stop running incursions to help you out, you could take VFK away from us. who needs spies when there are goons who give tips how to destroy themselfes :D but thanks for the hint i shoot him a mail right away, keep looking out of the window, incursion fleet might be incoming shortly
Awesome. I'll give you 15% of the value of any loot that drops from their ships for this service. The guy who was sitting next to me in the first nullsec round table who had obviously not had a shower since before boarding his flight to Iceland, you really stank. You know who you are. |
Trii Seo
Sabotage Incorporated Executive Outcomes
43
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Posted - 2013.06.21 15:00:00 -
[132] - Quote
Someone out there found a vein of gold. They smelted it into pure, pure gold and poured into the internets. This thread was formed.
Please tell me this is serious. A Rifter with... what seems to be an ASB, a cloak and a warp core stab. Oh how the mighty have fallen. Tread on, young one and you will never have to endure wearing the chains of carebearism.
~Welcome to the real world~
Is it Hotdrop O'Clock yet? |
Harry Forever
SpaceJunkys
137
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Posted - 2013.06.21 15:28:00 -
[133] - Quote
Mallak Azaria wrote:Harry Forever wrote:Mallak Azaria wrote:Now if you could just get DarthNefarious to stop running incursions to help you out, you could take VFK away from us. who needs spies when there are goons who give tips how to destroy themselfes :D but thanks for the hint i shoot him a mail right away, keep looking out of the window, incursion fleet might be incoming shortly Awesome. I'll give you 15% of the value of any loot that drops from their ships for this service.
you goons are so pigheaded, thinking that you are the latest and greatest... just keep your ship wrecks and build some new ones, we don't want to see you guys fly around in capsules only OMG! the asteroid is depleted! |
Sergeant Acht Scultz
School of Applied Knowledge Caldari State
869
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Posted - 2013.06.21 15:49:00 -
[134] - Quote
Harry Forever wrote:Mallak Azaria wrote:Harry Forever wrote:Mallak Azaria wrote:Now if you could just get DarthNefarious to stop running incursions to help you out, you could take VFK away from us. who needs spies when there are goons who give tips how to destroy themselfes :D but thanks for the hint i shoot him a mail right away, keep looking out of the window, incursion fleet might be incoming shortly Awesome. I'll give you 15% of the value of any loot that drops from their ships for this service. you goons are so pigheaded, thinking that you are the latest and greatest... just keep your ship wrecks and build some new ones, we don't want to see you guys fly around in capsules only
Cheap talking, watch out you're dealing with pro's, you're gonna loose at that game *removed inappropriate ASCII art signature* - CCP Eterne |
Harry Forever
SpaceJunkys
137
|
Posted - 2013.06.21 15:58:00 -
[135] - Quote
Sergeant Acht Scultz wrote:Cheap talking, watch out you're dealing with pro's, you're gonna loose at that game
its about respect you know, something those kids have to learn the hard way, but they will strust me that... you know why they talk about tears all the time? because they are the masters in crying OMG! the asteroid is depleted! |
Harry Forever
SpaceJunkys
137
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Posted - 2013.06.21 16:01:00 -
[136] - Quote
Sergeant Acht Scultz wrote:Harry Forever wrote:I did shoot at the base!! :DD got screenshots!! :DD Apparently you just killed the myth Goons drop 20/1 since your Rifter is intact now for a couple days over there, weird enough you don't seen neither offended by their local posting nor seems anyone around is hunting you like Predator did on the old man. How does it feel like? What's your real experience on Goons territory and with those you dealt with?
some are ok, the other guy yesterday did show some respect after the fight, as he said "gf" in local, so i think there is still hope
at some point I even sense a mutiny within their own lines coming, they need to replace some people OMG! the asteroid is depleted! |
Kharaxus
Native Freshfood Minmatar Republic
12
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Posted - 2013.06.21 17:10:00 -
[137] - Quote
Trii Seo wrote:Someone out there found a vein of gold. They smelted it into pure, pure gold and poured into the internets. This thread was formed.
Please tell me this is serious. A Rifter with... what seems to be an ASB, a cloak and a warp core stab. Oh how the mighty have fallen. Tread on, young one and you will never have to endure wearing the chains of carebearism.
~Welcome to the real world~
It would have been great to do some damage but all I wanted was to get there and get out, with my screenshot!!
Now I need to find a new home base for mining from, because Osmon is depleted. Perhaps its all the Russians constantly in local chat. I know they have a WH nearby....
Soon as I get some mining done I will re-fit and go back up to VFK to deal out some damage.
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Harry Forever
SpaceJunkys
138
|
Posted - 2013.06.21 17:13:00 -
[138] - Quote
Kharaxus wrote:Trii Seo wrote:Someone out there found a vein of gold. They smelted it into pure, pure gold and poured into the internets. This thread was formed.
Please tell me this is serious. A Rifter with... what seems to be an ASB, a cloak and a warp core stab. Oh how the mighty have fallen. Tread on, young one and you will never have to endure wearing the chains of carebearism.
~Welcome to the real world~
It would have been great to do some damage but all I wanted was to get there and get out, with my screenshot!! Now I need to find a new home base for mining from, because Osmon is depleted. Perhaps its all the Russians constantly in local chat. I know they have a WH nearby.... Soon as I get some mining done I will re-fit and go back up to VFK to deal out some damage.
thats the spirit! let me know when you are ready and we hunt them down together, I got 30 condors from a wealthy friend contracted over to me today, we have a solid warchest to support our troopers now! :D OMG! the asteroid is depleted! |
knobber Jobbler
Bat Country Goonswarm Federation
245
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Posted - 2013.06.21 17:18:00 -
[139] - Quote
Kharaxus wrote:Trii Seo wrote:Someone out there found a vein of gold. They smelted it into pure, pure gold and poured into the internets. This thread was formed.
Please tell me this is serious. A Rifter with... what seems to be an ASB, a cloak and a warp core stab. Oh how the mighty have fallen. Tread on, young one and you will never have to endure wearing the chains of carebearism.
~Welcome to the real world~
It would have been great to do some damage but all I wanted was to get there and get out, with my screenshot!! Now I need to find a new home base for mining from, because Osmon is depleted. Perhaps its all the Russians constantly in local chat. I know they have a WH nearby.... Soon as I get some mining done I will re-fit and go back up to VFK to deal out some damage.
How cute, you have one ship. What exactly do you expect to damage? |
Kijo Rikki
Powder and Ball Alchemists Union The Predictables
365
|
Posted - 2013.06.21 17:24:00 -
[140] - Quote
knobber Jobbler wrote:Kharaxus wrote:Trii Seo wrote:Someone out there found a vein of gold. They smelted it into pure, pure gold and poured into the internets. This thread was formed.
Please tell me this is serious. A Rifter with... what seems to be an ASB, a cloak and a warp core stab. Oh how the mighty have fallen. Tread on, young one and you will never have to endure wearing the chains of carebearism.
~Welcome to the real world~
It would have been great to do some damage but all I wanted was to get there and get out, with my screenshot!! Now I need to find a new home base for mining from, because Osmon is depleted. Perhaps its all the Russians constantly in local chat. I know they have a WH nearby.... Soon as I get some mining done I will re-fit and go back up to VFK to deal out some damage. How cute, you have one ship. What exactly do you expect to damage?
Don't mess with him, if you give him a few weeks he'll take out your fitting services!
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Harry Forever
SpaceJunkys
138
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Posted - 2013.06.21 17:44:00 -
[141] - Quote
knobber Jobbler wrote:Kharaxus wrote:Trii Seo wrote:Someone out there found a vein of gold. They smelted it into pure, pure gold and poured into the internets. This thread was formed.
Please tell me this is serious. A Rifter with... what seems to be an ASB, a cloak and a warp core stab. Oh how the mighty have fallen. Tread on, young one and you will never have to endure wearing the chains of carebearism.
~Welcome to the real world~
It would have been great to do some damage but all I wanted was to get there and get out, with my screenshot!! Now I need to find a new home base for mining from, because Osmon is depleted. Perhaps its all the Russians constantly in local chat. I know they have a WH nearby.... Soon as I get some mining done I will re-fit and go back up to VFK to deal out some damage. How cute, you have one ship. What exactly do you expect to damage?
you goons are a bit sleepy, our warchest just got filled with 30 ships from investors, and it did just take my carebear catalyst to hunt one of you down infront of your VFK bounce house OMG! the asteroid is depleted! |
Kharaxus
Native Freshfood Minmatar Republic
14
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Posted - 2013.06.21 17:46:00 -
[142] - Quote
knobber Jobbler wrote:Kharaxus wrote:Trii Seo wrote:Someone out there found a vein of gold. They smelted it into pure, pure gold and poured into the internets. This thread was formed.
Please tell me this is serious. A Rifter with... what seems to be an ASB, a cloak and a warp core stab. Oh how the mighty have fallen. Tread on, young one and you will never have to endure wearing the chains of carebearism.
~Welcome to the real world~
It would have been great to do some damage but all I wanted was to get there and get out, with my screenshot!! Now I need to find a new home base for mining from, because Osmon is depleted. Perhaps its all the Russians constantly in local chat. I know they have a WH nearby.... Soon as I get some mining done I will re-fit and go back up to VFK to deal out some damage. How cute, you have one ship. What exactly do you expect to damage?
1. pods - saw them flying around while cloaked 5km from the station. 2. cyno frigates - vulnerable when they pop their cynos.
Don't underestimate care-bears! In some cases they have no idea what they are doing and they have the same guns you do!! |
Khergit Deserters
1241
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Posted - 2013.06.21 18:04:00 -
[143] - Quote
Harry Forever wrote:knobber Jobbler wrote:Kharaxus wrote:Trii Seo wrote:Someone out there found a vein of gold. They smelted it into pure, pure gold and poured into the internets. This thread was formed.
Please tell me this is serious. A Rifter with... what seems to be an ASB, a cloak and a warp core stab. Oh how the mighty have fallen. Tread on, young one and you will never have to endure wearing the chains of carebearism.
~Welcome to the real world~
It would have been great to do some damage but all I wanted was to get there and get out, with my screenshot!! Now I need to find a new home base for mining from, because Osmon is depleted. Perhaps its all the Russians constantly in local chat. I know they have a WH nearby.... Soon as I get some mining done I will re-fit and go back up to VFK to deal out some damage. How cute, you have one ship. What exactly do you expect to damage? you goons are a bit sleepy, our warchest just got filled with 30 ships from investors, and it did just take my carebear catalyst to hunt one of you down infront of your VFK bounce house Will send more isk as well. |
Ovv Topik
Tribal Liberation Force Minmatar Republic
426
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Posted - 2013.06.21 20:45:00 -
[144] - Quote
I love that you fitted a salvager so you could pick the bones of your vanquished foes for loot!
You sir, abound in testicular fortitude!
Maybe next time fit a cargo expander. Would be a shame to have to leave some of the loot behind. "Jita 4 4 spaceport. You will not find a more wretched hive of scum and villainy. We must be cautious!" |
Herzog Wolfhammer
Sigma Special Tactics Group
2908
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Posted - 2013.06.21 21:35:00 -
[145] - Quote
Mallak Azaria wrote:Now if you could just get DarthNefarious to stop running incursions to help you out, you could take VFK away from us.
oh snap |
Harry Forever
SpaceJunkys
140
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Posted - 2013.06.21 23:46:00 -
[146] - Quote
hey goonfolk, I'm watching you right now, cloaked up in my condor
https://twitter.com/geistreiches/status/348224884398252032/photo/1 OMG! the asteroid is depleted! |
admiral root
Red Galaxy SpaceMonkey's Alliance
535
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Posted - 2013.06.21 23:54:00 -
[147] - Quote
Harry Forever wrote:you goons are a bit sleepy, our warchest just got filled with 30 ships from investors
Good god! A whole 30 ships? I'm going to stay docked up and wait for The Mittani to tell us all to run for the safety of highsec. Clearly the entire CFC is finished now that you have all of those ships. No, your rights end in optimal+2*falloff |
Harry Forever
SpaceJunkys
140
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Posted - 2013.06.22 00:00:00 -
[148] - Quote
admiral root wrote:Harry Forever wrote:you goons are a bit sleepy, our warchest just got filled with 30 ships from investors Good god! A whole 30 ships? I'm going to stay docked up and wait for The Mittani to tell us all to run for the safety of highsec. Clearly the entire CFC is finished now that you have all of those ships.
yea i know you are all docked, I'm sitting infront of your base right now, it was so boring i had to engage this one here https://twitter.com/geistreiches/status/348228244237082624/photo/1 maybe come out for a chat next time OMG! the asteroid is depleted! |
Elizabeth Aideron
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
34
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Posted - 2013.06.22 00:03:00 -
[149] - Quote
omw to vfk, try to stay alive until then |
Herzog Wolfhammer
Sigma Special Tactics Group
2908
|
Posted - 2013.06.22 00:07:00 -
[150] - Quote
admiral root wrote:Harry Forever wrote:you goons are a bit sleepy, our warchest just got filled with 30 ships from investors Good god! A whole 30 ships? I'm going to stay docked up and wait for The Mittani to tell us all to run for the safety of highsec. Clearly the entire CFC is finished now that you have all of those ships.
There will be more. |
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Harry Forever
SpaceJunkys
141
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Posted - 2013.06.22 00:16:00 -
[151] - Quote
yesterday it was one, today it was two, don't let anybody fool you, the carebear fleet is happening!
https://twitter.com/geistreiches/status/348232400322564096/photo/1 OMG! the asteroid is depleted! |
Herzog Wolfhammer
Sigma Special Tactics Group
2909
|
Posted - 2013.06.22 00:26:00 -
[152] - Quote
Harry Forever wrote:admiral root wrote:Harry Forever wrote:you goons are a bit sleepy, our warchest just got filled with 30 ships from investors Good god! A whole 30 ships? I'm going to stay docked up and wait for The Mittani to tell us all to run for the safety of highsec. Clearly the entire CFC is finished now that you have all of those ships. yea i know you are all docked, I'm sitting infront of your base right now, it was so boring i had to engage this one here https://twitter.com/geistreiches/status/348228244237082624/photo/1 maybe come out for a chat next time
Hey!
Look!
It's a highsec player!
In NULLSEC.
Sitting outside a goon station!
EFFING NULLSEC!
He's doing exactly what every PVPer and nuller says new players and highseccers SHOULD DO.
That's right!
And look, he's still posting!!! And...
He has yet to fall out of his chair bleeding out of every orifice because he simply went to nullsec and PVPed on his own terms.
NOT joining a nullsec corp and grinding to pay rent, NOT having his SP scrutinized by a recruiter, NOT having to do anoms to buy pimp ships, NOT ANYTHING THAT EVERBODY HAS TO PUT UP WITH....
IT CAN BE DONE!!
And anybody can do it.
Harry is showing the way.
Remember folks the SP system is BUILT around doing this. Nobody has to spend years carebearing it up and racking up ISK and SP before they can PVP. Specialize in a ship and specialize for a fit and you are good to go, cheap clones and all.
I will see if more ships can be provided.
The implications of this are way bigger than it seems.
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Herzog Wolfhammer
Sigma Special Tactics Group
2910
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Posted - 2013.06.22 01:05:00 -
[153] - Quote
Also:
From the C&P forum
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SKINE DMZ
The Scope Gallente Federation
13
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Posted - 2013.06.22 11:05:00 -
[154] - Quote
their defences are going down
I REPEAT THEIR DEFENCES ARE GOING DOWN
http://i39.tinypic.com/snfpxl.png
http://i39.tinypic.com/2rfqx5u.png |
OldWolf69
IR0N. SpaceMonkey's Alliance
59
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Posted - 2013.06.22 11:19:00 -
[155] - Quote
I like the Pod view. Now srsly, wouldn't it be easyer if you guys buy postcards? I'm shure Goon office could sell you some wonderfull ones.
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SKINE DMZ
The Scope Gallente Federation
14
|
Posted - 2013.06.22 12:29:00 -
[156] - Quote
now that wouldn't be any fun would it? |
Harry Forever
SpaceJunkys
144
|
Posted - 2013.06.22 12:41:00 -
[157] - Quote
OldWolf69 wrote:I like the Pod view. Now srsly, wouldn't it be easyer if you guys buy postcards? I'm shure Goon office could sell you some wonderfull ones.
good idea, we could sell postcards of mittanis burning castle :D
at the moment we are just gathering intel, but we also brought down 2 goons with our noob ships...
soon that place will be swarmed with people who want to take a picture and kill a goon themselfes
I encourage every carebear to go there and do the same
OMG! the asteroid is depleted! |
Kijo Rikki
Powder and Ball Alchemists Union The Predictables
377
|
Posted - 2013.06.22 12:46:00 -
[158] - Quote
One thing I noticed while perusing these pictures is that you guys don't have the proper Carebear Warrior Gäó overview setup.
Please, google Sarah's Overview Pack and read the instructions, download and install. It may seem awkward at first, but trust me, you'll thank me later. It's a tool the industrious Carebear Warrior just can't invade VFK without! |
Harry Forever
SpaceJunkys
144
|
Posted - 2013.06.22 13:16:00 -
[159] - Quote
Kijo Rikki wrote:One thing I noticed while perusing these pictures is that you guys don't have the proper Carebear Warrior Gäó overview setup. Please, google Sarah's Overview Pack and read the instructions, download and install. It may seem awkward at first, but trust me, you'll thank me later. It's a tool the industrious Carebear Warrior just can't invade VFK without!
yea I will dig into that a bit more, thanks, we already found a few things we need to change there, all learning by doing :D
but another topic brought up my attention, stealth bombers, if it would not take so long to train all those things
I would drop one of those bombs infront of VFK right now :D another 21 days that keeps my skillplan busy
which one would you recommend? OMG! the asteroid is depleted! |
Kijo Rikki
Powder and Ball Alchemists Union The Predictables
377
|
Posted - 2013.06.22 13:21:00 -
[160] - Quote
I like the manticore but really any racial stealth bomber will do. |
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Harry Forever
SpaceJunkys
144
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Posted - 2013.06.22 13:29:00 -
[161] - Quote
Kijo Rikki wrote:I like the manticore but really any racial stealth bomber will do.
yea then i think i go with the manticore as well, best looking in my opinion... OMG! the asteroid is depleted! |
Kharaxus
Native Freshfood Minmatar Republic
15
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Posted - 2013.06.22 15:34:00 -
[162] - Quote
Last night I went to VFK and as soon as I jumped in I noticed a reaper. Naturally I killed it. Normally I would check pilot info to make sure it isn't somebody I wouldn't want to kill but I killed that Reaper so quick I didn't know I killed it! http://imgur.com/gallery/4bqEhBW/new
Naturally I investigated its contents to see what it had been eating. I noticed a strange thing. It had a collection of 3 civilian miners in it!!
This brings up an interesting question: is it true the Goons are mining to pay the rent? That particular Reaper (and you can look up my kill on zkillboard to confirm) with 3 civilian miners, combined with the rumor of Goons mining to pay rent, really makes a guy wonder.
I checked the pilot info and another surprise! The Goon was only a day old!
There are definitely some changes being made with the Goons. I will stay tuned to see what happens next. |
Harry Forever
SpaceJunkys
144
|
Posted - 2013.06.22 15:53:00 -
[163] - Quote
Kharaxus wrote:Last night I went to VFK and as soon as I jumped in I noticed a reaper. Naturally I killed it. Normally I would check pilot info to make sure it isn't somebody I wouldn't want to kill but I killed that Reaper so quick I didn't know I killed it! http://imgur.com/gallery/4bqEhBW/newNaturally I investigated its contents to see what it had been eating. I noticed a strange thing. It had a collection of 3 civilian miners in it!! This brings up an interesting question: is it true the Goons are mining to pay the rent? That particular Reaper (and you can look up my kill on zkillboard to confirm) with 3 civilian miners, combined with the rumor of Goons mining to pay rent, really makes a guy wonder. I checked the pilot info and another surprise! The Goon was only a day old! There are definitely some changes being made with the Goons. I will stay tuned to see what happens next.
yet another goon going down, I hope this poor guy did not mix up the miners with the blasters OMG! the asteroid is depleted! |
Kharaxus
Native Freshfood Minmatar Republic
15
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Posted - 2013.06.22 15:58:00 -
[164] - Quote
There seriously are rumors of Goons mining to pay for stuff.
Just like there are rumors Local is going to be removed.
Both carry enough weight to really wonder. |
RAIN Arthie
The Ascended Fleet Tribal Band
71
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Posted - 2013.06.22 16:09:00 -
[165] - Quote
Shepard Wong Ogeko wrote:Please do this. I love some good hitting in the behind.
And I haven't had a chance to blap a mission boat since the last Burn Jita.
Dear enemy: you ran away from us last night. I commend the miners for giving you a big pimp hand. After offending, harrassing, scamming, abusing, and lying to players do you really think it wouldn't have came to this? Half the game is against you. You are no longer feared or thought of as a threat. Ladies and gentlemen join this miner or any Goon opposition in this fight. |
Trii Seo
Sabotage Incorporated Executive Outcomes
45
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Posted - 2013.06.22 19:20:00 -
[166] - Quote
...ok I don't know if it's real anymore. Might have to consult a drink for that, because I'm currently at a loss of words.
Maybe we should ping for leaving one of them alone. Have them fire away at the VFK services and measure just how long would it take.
Though if it IS real, it sounds like they're having fun. Maybe that's what we should do in the war, you know - jump into T1s and go shoot an invulnerable station in hostile system?
(Or it's some elaborate ruse and one day they'll fit a cyno and when people get used to them, drop a metric ton of supers in an attempt to headshot VFK...) Is it Hotdrop O'Clock yet? |
Harry Forever
SpaceJunkys
146
|
Posted - 2013.06.22 19:55:00 -
[167] - Quote
nobody stands in my way when i want to fight some goons, that russian guy just was lucky because of superior tech and skilltime... for now... we need to burn down that place as well to set foot into null sec and bring our logistic there, access and free mining for all carebears!
https://twitter.com/geistreiches/status/348399068709548032/photo/1 OMG! the asteroid is depleted! |
Herzog Wolfhammer
Sigma Special Tactics Group
2913
|
Posted - 2013.06.22 23:21:00 -
[168] - Quote
30 more Rifters in production, ETC 2 days.
Good luck noobs.
My what a little company of wolves we have here.... |
Kharaxus
Native Freshfood Minmatar Republic
15
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Posted - 2013.06.23 00:07:00 -
[169] - Quote
So far with the condor I received for the war effort, I have killed one Goon and been killed by another guy: NegativeTimmy - noticed he's a busy lil beaver. I tried to warn Harry but apparently ran right into same bubble as I did.
May have to hunt Timmy down just for fun. |
Trii Seo
Sabotage Incorporated Executive Outcomes
47
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Posted - 2013.06.23 00:36:00 -
[170] - Quote
You dooooo realize you're not fighting goons though, right.
I mean, you got killed in Cloud Ring and Pure Blind. Goons live in Deklein. You also got killed by Executive Outcomes alliance and a random russian, not goons. Oh and most goons/fellow CFC people are in B-D nowadays, there's a war going and all that.
Still, keep going, or, whatever the hell you're doing... Is it Hotdrop O'Clock yet? |
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Kharaxus
Native Freshfood Minmatar Republic
15
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Posted - 2013.06.23 00:50:00 -
[171] - Quote
I killed Julep Mayer in his reaper in Deklein - in VFK. He's a Goon and it was in Goon space. |
Skill Training Online
Royal Amarr Institute Amarr Empire
21
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Posted - 2013.06.23 01:03:00 -
[172] - Quote
According to local chat the Goons are "one of the biggest" carebears... so would they Unite against themselves?
That would seem a bit silly wouldn't it?
/thread |
Kharaxus
Native Freshfood Minmatar Republic
15
|
Posted - 2013.06.23 01:30:00 -
[173] - Quote
Skill Training Online wrote:According to local chat the Goons are "one of the biggest" carebears... so would they Unite against themselves?
That would seem a bit silly wouldn't it?
/thread
Apparently so. I asked in Help chat and everybody said it is true as well. No wonder Goons fly around in reapers with multiple civilian miners. |
Amarra Mandalin
Red Federation RvB - RED Federation
674
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Posted - 2013.06.23 01:41:00 -
[174] - Quote
ISD Gallifreyan wrote:I see what you did there.
" Carebears Unite! and lets hit the goons from Beehind! "
I like the idea of high-sec carebears banding together to defeat null-sec power blocks. The issue is hearding the cats.
You're definitely my favorite ISD, per your comments. I would <3 you but, ya know. Carry on. |
Amarra Mandalin
Red Federation RvB - RED Federation
674
|
Posted - 2013.06.23 02:05:00 -
[175] - Quote
admiral root wrote:Harry Forever wrote:you goons are a bit sleepy, our warchest just got filled with 30 ships from investors Good god! A whole 30 ships? I'm going to stay docked up and wait for The Mittani to tell us all to run for the safety of highsec. Clearly the entire CFC is finished now that you have all of those ships.
Now, now, why so grouchy root? Don't compel me to join the opposition and break out the muffin launcher. |
Herzog Wolfhammer
Sigma Special Tactics Group
2913
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Posted - 2013.06.23 05:15:00 -
[176] - Quote
Amarra Mandalin wrote:admiral root wrote:Harry Forever wrote:you goons are a bit sleepy, our warchest just got filled with 30 ships from investors Good god! A whole 30 ships? I'm going to stay docked up and wait for The Mittani to tell us all to run for the safety of highsec. Clearly the entire CFC is finished now that you have all of those ships. Now, now, why so grouchy root? Don't compel me to join the opposition and break out the muffin launcher.
I've been so inspired I'm taking a long look at my Nemesis
(and have yet to do anything with it since I got it)
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Harry Forever
SpaceJunkys
151
|
Posted - 2013.06.23 08:41:00 -
[177] - Quote
Herzog Wolfhammer wrote:Amarra Mandalin wrote:admiral root wrote:Harry Forever wrote:you goons are a bit sleepy, our warchest just got filled with 30 ships from investors Good god! A whole 30 ships? I'm going to stay docked up and wait for The Mittani to tell us all to run for the safety of highsec. Clearly the entire CFC is finished now that you have all of those ships. Now, now, why so grouchy root? Don't compel me to join the opposition and break out the muffin launcher. I've been so inspired I'm taking a long look at my Nemesis (and have yet to do anything with it since I got it)
great idea :D we are all into training stealth bombers already, come with us and we bring real pain to their place :D
I will put another topic up shortly maybe in crime and punishment, we somehow need to get rid of that bubble plague as well in order for us to move freely into goonspace OMG! the asteroid is depleted! |
Alavaria Fera
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
3728
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Posted - 2013.06.23 09:24:00 -
[178] - Quote
Harry Forever wrote:great idea :D we are all into training stealth bombers already, come with us and we bring real pain to their place :D
I will put another topic up shortly maybe in crime and punishment, we somehow need to get rid of that bubble plague as well in order for us to move freely into goonspace Stealth bombers are good. If you know someone with a blackops and a covert cyno, you can move about very easily. Even more if your covert cyno is on a covert ops interdiction nullified T3 for the ultimate freedom. There are no goons. The goons' 0.0 dream is over.
TEST Defence, Please Ignore |
Harry Forever
SpaceJunkys
151
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Posted - 2013.06.23 09:28:00 -
[179] - Quote
day 5
setting up a warning and hunting system for bubbles and gatecampers, please read
https://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=posts&t=251542&find=unread OMG! the asteroid is depleted! |
Harry Forever
SpaceJunkys
155
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Posted - 2013.06.24 08:49:00 -
[180] - Quote
day 6
3 carebears did fleet up in our wargear approaching VFK, one was cought in a bubble, however only seconds after that, my frozen corps was still able to remember the location and put a warning to the BubbleTrouble mailing list!
join BubbleTrouble now! a service brought to you by SpaceJunkeys!
please check the link for details: https://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=posts&find=unread&t=251542
OMG! the asteroid is depleted! |
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SKINE DMZ
The Scope Gallente Federation
16
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Posted - 2013.06.24 10:09:00 -
[181] - Quote
many..bubbles....drowning.. |
Liafcipe9000
Smeghead Empire
6286
|
Posted - 2013.06.24 10:29:00 -
[182] - Quote
Harry Forever wrote:shoot everything there's your first problem right there.
Carebears. |
Harry Forever
SpaceJunkys
155
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Posted - 2013.06.24 10:42:00 -
[183] - Quote
Liafcipe9000 wrote:Harry Forever wrote:shoot everything there's your first problem right there. Carebears.
there are no problems in my world, there are only things happening because of reason OMG! the asteroid is depleted! |
SKINE DMZ
The Scope Gallente Federation
16
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Posted - 2013.06.24 11:22:00 -
[184] - Quote
Liafcipe9000 wrote:Harry Forever wrote:shoot everything there's your first problem right there. Carebears. im a sharebear in a carebear suit |
Logan Brewster
Personal Future Confectioners
12
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Posted - 2013.06.24 11:28:00 -
[185] - Quote
We'll sponsor you a total of 10 stealth bombers as a small contribution to your noble cause.
Please mail me with details of which type you'd prefer. You are actually not the only ones stealthing in that region, so there is a possibility some friends of mine will contact you and join with their bombers.
Logan Brewster |
Harry Forever
SpaceJunkys
155
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Posted - 2013.06.24 11:39:00 -
[186] - Quote
Logan Brewster wrote:We'll sponsor you a total of 10 stealth bombers as a small contribution to your noble cause.
Please mail me with details of which type you'd prefer. You are actually not the only ones stealthing in that region, so there is a possibility some friends of mine will contact you and join with their bombers.
Logan Brewster
great news!! thanks for the support! I did shoot you a mail, hope we soon can trash that place together! OMG! the asteroid is depleted! |
SKINE DMZ
The Scope Gallente Federation
16
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Posted - 2013.06.24 11:44:00 -
[187] - Quote
Logan Brewster wrote:We'll sponsor you a total of 10 stealth bombers as a small contribution to your noble cause.
Please mail me with details of which type you'd prefer. You are actually not the only ones stealthing in that region, so there is a possibility some friends of mine will contact you and join with their bombers.
Logan Brewster Personal Future Confectioners - largest sponsor of carebears united Herzog Wolfhammer - second largest sponsor
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Harry Forever
SpaceJunkys
155
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Posted - 2013.06.24 11:51:00 -
[188] - Quote
SKINE DMZ wrote:Logan Brewster wrote:We'll sponsor you a total of 10 stealth bombers as a small contribution to your noble cause.
Please mail me with details of which type you'd prefer. You are actually not the only ones stealthing in that region, so there is a possibility some friends of mine will contact you and join with their bombers.
Logan Brewster Personal Future Confectioners - largest sponsor of carebears united Herzog Wolfhammer - second largest sponsor
dont miss the additional 30 rifters coming from Wolfhammer, thats a total of 60 ships + the 10 stealth bomber, our warchest will be nicely filled to do nonstop trips to VFK OMG! the asteroid is depleted! |
Logan Brewster
Personal Future Confectioners
13
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Posted - 2013.06.24 12:30:00 -
[189] - Quote
SKINE DMZ wrote:Logan Brewster wrote:We'll sponsor you a total of 10 stealth bombers as a small contribution to your noble cause.
Please mail me with details of which type you'd prefer. You are actually not the only ones stealthing in that region, so there is a possibility some friends of mine will contact you and join with their bombers.
Logan Brewster Personal Future Confectioners - largest sponsor of carebears united Herzog Wolfhammer - second largest sponsor
Don't shout it off the mountains. Bad for the rest of my business. If I see you put those toys to some good use, perhaps we can come to some further supply arrangements.
Good hunting for now! |
Kijo Rikki
Powder and Ball Alchemists Union The Predictables
387
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Posted - 2013.06.24 12:59:00 -
[190] - Quote
Good Morning Gentlemen.
Today we will be training on the Caldari Manticore. This state of the art stealth bomber is capable of sneaking across enemy lines and engaging ships much larger than itself.
A product of the Lai Dai corporation, this bird is capable of carrying and launching torpedoes, weaponry designed for much larger battleships. In addition, in the hands of extremely skilled pilots, she is capable of firing torpedoes from a much greater distance than any standard battleship could ever hope to. These are it's strength.
However, due it's highly specialized nature, it has some major drawbacks: namely, it is very fragile, as any properly fitted Manticore will not have much room for defensive modules, and because it is designed to go after battleships and battlecruisers, it performs very poorly against frigate and cruiser class vessels.
You must be aware of these weaknesses and use your stealth to dictate when and where to strike. It is advisable to keep range on battleships, however should it become necessary to point and hold a target, it is advisable to carry sensor dampeners to slow the battleships lock time. This works well in a group, but be advised only one dampener may allow a battleship to eventually gaine lock, and at point range you may become susceptible to drone attack.
It is also advisable to carry target painters on board, this will allow you to effectively engage cruisers and battlecruisers by increasing their signature radius and making it easier for torpedoes to land. Be aware some cruisers use weaponry that is very effective against frigates, be cautious when engaging.
Finally, avoid engaging enemy frigates at all costs. Unless you are trained to launch bombs, and you know the enemy frigate has engaged his microwarp drives and is in range, do not decloak and fire! Torpedo weaponry performs too poorly on its own, even with target painters, and a frigate class vessel will chew a stealth bomber up.
In the upcoming days we will continue to train in tier 1 vessels while you learn more about the stealth bomber class. Don't forget to brush up on support skills in addition to your stealth bomber training. Once you are in the Manticore, the brass will begin sending you across enemy lines, straight into the heart of the Goonwaffe.
I don't think I need to tell you how dangerous this is, but I will remind you the fate of the free world may very well rest in your hands.
Dismissed. |
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Arch Stanton's Neighbour
Forceful Resource Acquisition Inc
59
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Posted - 2013.06.24 13:14:00 -
[191] - Quote
Why are you using Manticores, that have a kinetic damage bonus that is also what rats in goonland shoot? (And therefore, what their carebears will be well tanked against).
You should be in anything but a manticore. Personal recommendation is purifier for that glorious em hole on all shield ships. |
Kijo Rikki
Powder and Ball Alchemists Union The Predictables
388
|
Posted - 2013.06.24 13:18:00 -
[192] - Quote
Arch Stanton's Neighbour wrote:Why are you using Manticores, that have a kinetic damage bonus that is also what rats in goonland shoot? (And therefore, what their carebears will be well tanked against).
You should be in anything but a manticore. Personal recommendation is purifier for that glorious em hole on all shield ships.
Good point. I just like the Manticore on looks, but Arch is correct. Goonbears will be fitted to defend against Guristas, they will have strong kinetic/thermal tanks. |
Harry Forever
SpaceJunkys
156
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Posted - 2013.06.24 13:39:00 -
[193] - Quote
Arch Stanton's Neighbour wrote:Why are you using Manticores, that have a kinetic damage bonus that is also what rats in goonland shoot? (And therefore, what their carebears will be well tanked against).
You should be in anything but a manticore. Personal recommendation is purifier for that glorious em hole on all shield ships.
ok then we need to spy for some war fleets in the maticore, maybe they got different fittings ... thanks for the info we will look into our options and adjust our fleet based on what we are shooting, good to know OMG! the asteroid is depleted! |
Alavaria Fera
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
3731
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Posted - 2013.06.24 16:45:00 -
[194] - Quote
Harry Forever wrote:Arch Stanton's Neighbour wrote:Why are you using Manticores, that have a kinetic damage bonus that is also what rats in goonland shoot? (And therefore, what their carebears will be well tanked against).
You should be in anything but a manticore. Personal recommendation is purifier for that glorious em hole on all shield ships. ok then we need to spy for some war fleets in the maticore, maybe they got different fittings ... thanks for the info we will look into our options and adjust our fleet based on what we are shooting, good to know Yes, you should use Purifiers. Please talk to Zed Mike for more details, he used to be pretty good at ganking Drakes with a purifier. There are no goons. The goons' 0.0 dream is over.
TEST Defence, Please Ignore |
destiny2
Abh Academy Abh Alliance
131
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Posted - 2013.06.24 17:06:00 -
[195] - Quote
im sure many from hisec will only go if it turns into another one of these sort of battles. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TLqb-m1ZZUA
Battle of asakai |
Harry Forever
SpaceJunkys
158
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Posted - 2013.06.24 17:26:00 -
[196] - Quote
Alavaria Fera wrote:Harry Forever wrote:Arch Stanton's Neighbour wrote:Why are you using Manticores, that have a kinetic damage bonus that is also what rats in goonland shoot? (And therefore, what their carebears will be well tanked against).
You should be in anything but a manticore. Personal recommendation is purifier for that glorious em hole on all shield ships. ok then we need to spy for some war fleets in the maticore, maybe they got different fittings ... thanks for the info we will look into our options and adjust our fleet based on what we are shooting, good to know Yes, you should use Purifiers. Please talk to Zed Mike for more details, he used to be pretty good at ganking Drakes with a purifier.
I like those guys here as well http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9AGEm4y-fdI OMG! the asteroid is depleted! |
Kyle Maltese
University of Caille Gallente Federation
1
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Posted - 2013.06.24 17:42:00 -
[197] - Quote
Really want to hit them where it hurts? Find their buy hubs, find their fits, and stop selling those modules. Make them go elsewhere to get PvP fits, or make them pay higher prices. Goonswarm is going to war because their funds are drying up, so make them dry up faster.
Of course, I don't have anything against Goonswarm themselves. |
Laserak
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
37
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Posted - 2013.06.24 18:15:00 -
[198] - Quote
Kyle Maltese wrote:Really want to hit them where it hurts? Find their buy hubs, find their fits, and stop selling those modules. Make them go elsewhere to get PvP fits, or make them pay higher prices. Goonswarm is going to war because their funds are drying up, so make them dry up faster.
Of course, I don't have anything against Goonswarm themselves.
Because we totally dont get our ships off alliance contracts
and you cant dock in our stations, our buy hub is Jita- try telling those guys not to sell
get back in your L4 scrub |
SKINE DMZ
The Scope Gallente Federation
17
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Posted - 2013.06.24 18:17:00 -
[199] - Quote
^ sounds like an angry miner |
Kyle Maltese
University of Caille Gallente Federation
2
|
Posted - 2013.06.24 18:30:00 -
[200] - Quote
Laserak wrote:Kyle Maltese wrote:Really want to hit them where it hurts? Find their buy hubs, find their fits, and stop selling those modules. Make them go elsewhere to get PvP fits, or make them pay higher prices. Goonswarm is going to war because their funds are drying up, so make them dry up faster.
Of course, I don't have anything against Goonswarm themselves. Because we totally dont get our ships off alliance contracts and you cant dock in our stations, our buy hub is Jita- try telling those guys not to sell get back in your L4 scrub Son, you're thinking way too narrowly for what I'm talking about. Stick to tackling. |
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Khergit Deserters
Crom's Angels
1243
|
Posted - 2013.06.24 21:06:00 -
[201] - Quote
Any new reports from the front? |
Kharaxus
SpaceJunkys
21
|
Posted - 2013.06.24 21:33:00 -
[202] - Quote
Its too quiet...... |
Marlona Sky
D00M. Northern Coalition.
3946
|
Posted - 2013.06.24 22:33:00 -
[203] - Quote
Khergit Deserters wrote:Any new reports from the front? Goons and the rest of the CFC are lossing their foothold in Fountain and at the same time losing valuables moons here and there. The tactic of blue balling is not working as well as they thought it would. . |
Herzog Wolfhammer
Sigma Special Tactics Group
2923
|
Posted - 2013.06.25 03:22:00 -
[204] - Quote
I see people want to "ship up" to SBs and black ops.
Getting new players to go for advanced hulls for nullsec PVP early one is a good thing.
The reasons are simple.
First, getting them to PVP is good for them and for the game. Certainly there are other things to do like exploration but you get PVP with the exploration if you are not careful OR you hate the minigame so much you wait for the explorer to finish it then take his stuff.
Second, a lot of new players suffer from the "bigger is better" mentality in the ship size progression. They usually go for the battleship or battle cruiser without a good amount of experience with smaller craft. Thus they move to bigger racks with more slots and don't know what to do with them. They also don't learn the appreciation for taking a smaller hull and getting as much out of it as you can.
Meanwhile, as for highsec attacking nullsec, why not? Certainly it's not the way the present status quo would like it. Let's think of this for a moment: all of that complaining about highsec is usually couched in "it should just be a noob starter zone".
Using high sec to stage a war from is probably the biggest way to insult the gate campers and feudalistic nullsec overlords. Everything that is wrong with highsec, as they put it, brought to bear against them in a manner of war is likely to grind a lot of gears. NPC stations with production, Concord, the list can be long on this one.
But.... this IS indeed a sandbox, no?
I have no hatred of nullsec though. It's just space, but there are a lot of people who complain endlessly about highsec. There are those who are forthcoming in their gripe and respected. They outright say they want to violence your boat and take your stuff. They, at the least, are not in highsec playing aggro-fu and station games. But the vast majority of the complainers, those who are not being truthful, have some beef with highsec that ranges from hating it as being the only place they can get ISK to nullsec not being everything they thought it was, but won't come to terms with that.
So many who have been to nullsec bought into the lie that it's the end game or you can get PVP there and so they go, and find things are not what they seem, and this is due to... other players. And this is not in the manner that they would fail to accept that this is an MMO. I think everybody gets that part, but that loss due to drama and petty crap eventually wears people down.
Also the expectations are beyond what a lot of people have. Are they failing? Why should they care?
If highsec was to wage a non-state 4th generation styled war on nullsec, what would be the effects of that?
I think it would be a good thing in the long run. First, you get players, especially new ones, into PVP and this game is all about PVP (sorry, it is - and my stats should show I am not Mr PVP here). Anything to break people out of this mindset of ISK-obsession and trying to "play house" with glimmer ships and the whole nine yards of carebeardom. Seriously. What became of highsec incursions is shameful, for example.
It would also be a path to get more people to nullsec because the war would not really be that effective on nullsec, given the hardware required to actually invade and keep it. The real destruction would be to what I call "The Great Wall of Carebear". New players who make forays into nullsec early on in life to attack it will breath new life into it. I like to point out there are carebears on BOTH sides of that wall. Well, if carbears are so horrible, then let them suffer on both sides of it.
I know that a lot of players would disagree, but I ask, how could the PVPers be against this? How could anybody already out there in nullsec now be against this?
Is it because this is not happening on... YOUR terms?
If that is the case, then consider it deeply for THIS is what I hope to see the player base at war against.
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Harry Forever
SpaceJunkys
166
|
Posted - 2013.06.25 07:35:00 -
[205] - Quote
Marlona Sky wrote:Khergit Deserters wrote:Any new reports from the front? Goons and the rest of the CFC are lossing their foothold in Fountain and at the same time losing valuables moons here and there. The tactic of blue balling is not working as well as they thought it would. As far as sov goes, initially Goons and the CFC were gifted five systems to give them a leg up on the invasion. At one point they had 15 systems, but as the month wore on, they have lost some and are currently at eleven systems. Unfortunately there is no solid way to track all the good moons that provide ISK, but the general agreement is they are losing more than they gain - allegedly.
Hey Marlona, I think mister Khergit Deserters wanted to have a report from the guerilla front at VFK a small fleet of carebears are invading and infiltrating goonspace... we attempting to smoke out gatecamps, and shoot down goons in their backyard, but thanks for the fountain report anyway, seems we will have a good time in goonspace as long as TEST is keeping them busy on the others side of the univers
If you know some carebears who want to hunt down some goons, now is the time, please let them know and tell them to come to my channel SpaceJunkys where we start organizing our fleets, or they just go to VFK, our slogan GÇ£shoot a goon while they fight for moonGÇ¥ :)
maybe join with your nyx as well ;) OMG! the asteroid is depleted! |
Harry Forever
SpaceJunkys
166
|
Posted - 2013.06.25 07:38:00 -
[206] - Quote
Khergit Deserters wrote:Any new reports from the front?
day 6
good day at the carebear fleet, yesterday I had the chance to fly with 2 experienced stealth bomber pilots, they teached me their wartactics and how to move around in null sec save, slowely we pushed forward into goonspace gathering intel of each area, but nobody was there, it seems they burried themeselfes deep down in their cave, it was so quiet and peaceful I even parked my starship in space to have a nap for the night :)
Now Im stuck in a dream called real life and need to do some boring stuff infront of a tool called excel, but I hope I wake up soon and be again in my starship fighting goons... to be continued :)
OMG! the asteroid is depleted! |
Marlona Sky
D00M. Northern Coalition.
3948
|
Posted - 2013.06.25 16:21:00 -
[207] - Quote
Harry Forever wrote:Marlona Sky wrote:Khergit Deserters wrote:Any new reports from the front? Goons and the rest of the CFC are lossing their foothold in Fountain and at the same time losing valuables moons here and there. The tactic of blue balling is not working as well as they thought it would. As far as sov goes, initially Goons and the CFC were gifted five systems to give them a leg up on the invasion. At one point they had 15 systems, but as the month wore on, they have lost some and are currently at eleven systems. Unfortunately there is no solid way to track all the good moons that provide ISK, but the general agreement is they are losing more than they gain - allegedly. Hey Marlona, I think mister Khergit Deserters wanted to have a report from the guerilla front at VFK a small fleet of carebears are invading and infiltrating goonspace... we attempting to smoke out gatecamps, and shoot down goons in their backyard, but thanks for the fountain report anyway, seems we will have a good time in goonspace as long as TEST is keeping them busy on the others side of the universe If you know some carebears who want to hunt down some goons, now is the time, please let them know and tell them to come to my channel SpaceJunkys where we start organizing our fleets, or they just go to VFK, our slogan GÇ£shoot a goon while they fight for moonGÇ¥ :P maybe join with your nyx as well ;D If you or Khergit can write up something that is not terrible for someones eyes to read that is factual and encompasses your adventures up there, please send it in to the TMC submissions or contact me. I think an article about so called Carebears Into The Wild would be a great read. . |
Anna Djan
Banana Corp
16
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Posted - 2013.06.25 16:38:00 -
[208] - Quote
I smell OP is a goon alt :)
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Kharaxus
SpaceJunkys
21
|
Posted - 2013.06.25 16:48:00 -
[209] - Quote
My far fetched opinion?
The OP has cubicle wars with his fellow Excel wielding associates.
Perhaps one day somebody in the office suggested to him he try eve. That person was possibly a Goon. Possibly that individual is either grooming the OP, or simply playing cat and mouse with the OP.
I mean look at his ambition and his ship fits. Why would a Goon go to all the trouble?
If you join the SpaceJunkys channel you can talk to him and make a more accurate evaluation. |
Herzog Wolfhammer
Sigma Special Tactics Group
2924
|
Posted - 2013.06.25 18:49:00 -
[210] - Quote
I would not put it past the goons to start some kind of program like this that keeps their own membership from becoming complacent and "bearish".
But I think the general idea is sound: get new players to roam nullsec looking for fights. If the paradigm of "you have to grind and skill for a while before you go" can be broken, a good time will be had by everybody.
I realized last night I can fit a cyno but don't know how to use it. Gotta go back to school... |
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Harry Forever
SpaceJunkys
167
|
Posted - 2013.06.25 19:11:00 -
[211] - Quote
Anna Djan wrote:I smell OP is a goon alt :)
no worries on that, this thing is a fulltime job... goons are just puppets, they could not pull that off :D
OMG! the asteroid is depleted! |
Harry Forever
SpaceJunkys
167
|
Posted - 2013.06.25 19:16:00 -
[212] - Quote
Marlona Sky wrote: If you or Khergit can write up something that is not terrible for someones eyes to read that is factual and encompasses your adventures up there, please send it in to the TMC submissions or contact me. I think an article about so called Carebears Into The Wild would be a great read.
ok cool, i put something together! OMG! the asteroid is depleted! |
Herzog Wolfhammer
Sigma Special Tactics Group
2930
|
Posted - 2013.06.26 06:45:00 -
[213] - Quote
30 more rifters...
FOR THE (highsec) HORDE!!!!!
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Rattman
Straya. Scrap Iron Flotilla.
4
|
Posted - 2013.06.26 06:51:00 -
[214] - Quote
If carebears want to do something. Buy a cloaky hauler some sbus and just fly around dropping them systems.
They (goons) have to fly all the way from fountain to kill them, then fly back again and you drop more its a big merry circle |
Harry Forever
SpaceJunkys
168
|
Posted - 2013.06.26 07:41:00 -
[215] - Quote
Rattman wrote:If carebears want to do something. Buy a cloaky hauler some sbus and just fly around dropping them systems.
They (goons) have to fly all the way from fountain to kill them, then fly back again and you drop more its a big merry circle
this thing is too expensive for our wallets at the moment, however if sombody wants to contract some over, we try our best to deploy those things in their space, I could confirm with a screenshot to the investor that this is actually happening... OMG! the asteroid is depleted! |
Zeus Zed
Federal Navy Academy Gallente Federation
6
|
Posted - 2013.06.26 07:57:00 -
[216] - Quote
Harry, I commend your enthusiasm and initiative and I offer to your cause all I have. My low skills and cruiser ships - which is all I can afford to by with my ISK.
Let me know how we can catch up in game! |
SKINE DMZ
The Scope Gallente Federation
26
|
Posted - 2013.06.26 09:58:00 -
[217] - Quote
Zeus - join the SpaceJunkys channel to go on a trip, I am planning to go tonight and surely Harry and maybe Kharaxus will be there too No problem about skills/isk either, feel free to jump in a frigate as opposed to the cruiser so you minimize losses. |
Jowen Datloran
Science and Trade Institute Caldari State
548
|
Posted - 2013.06.26 10:15:00 -
[218] - Quote
Rear entry; best entry. Mr. Science & Trade Institute, EVE Online Lorebook-á |
Harry Forever
SpaceJunkys
168
|
Posted - 2013.06.26 10:22:00 -
[219] - Quote
Zeus Zed wrote:Harry, I commend your enthusiasm and initiative and I offer to your cause all I have. My low skills and cruiser ships - which is all I can afford to by with my ISK.
Let me know how we can catch up in game!
exactly like SKINE DMZ mentioned, join SpaceJunkys channel we meet up there, we also can give you a free rifter or condor, our investors are producing those for us to support our fight, someday we maybe even have a stealth bomber available if you proof valuable, lets have a small run with the team as soon as possible! good to see you on board! OMG! the asteroid is depleted! |
Zeus Zed
Federal Navy Academy Gallente Federation
7
|
Posted - 2013.06.26 11:23:00 -
[220] - Quote
Thanks for the info - will do! See you later |
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Sol Kal'orr
TLSG
7
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Posted - 2013.06.26 15:45:00 -
[221] - Quote
I answered the call.
I was in Immensea looking for mining barges. I found none. A Wolf chased my Slasher away.
I ran to Provi, dodged a gatecamp, and took the long-route to Empire.
I went to Raha, but BNI were blobbing.
So I set course to VFK.
I reached VFK.
I am now in VFK. I killed one of those orange Imicuses, and the pod! Take that The Mittani!
We can do this Hisec! |
Harry Forever
SpaceJunkys
169
|
Posted - 2013.06.26 16:33:00 -
[222] - Quote
Sol Kal'orr wrote:I answered the call.
I was in Immensea looking for mining barges. I found none. A Wolf chased my Slasher away.
I ran to Provi, dodged a gatecamp, and took the long-route to Empire.
I went to Raha, but BNI were blobbing.
So I set course to VFK.
I reached VFK.
I am now in VFK. I killed one of those orange Imicuses, and the pod! Take that The Mittani!
We can do this Hisec!
:D oooh yes! burn VFK! BURN! :D OMG! the asteroid is depleted! |
Khergit Deserters
Crom's Angels
1251
|
Posted - 2013.06.26 18:31:00 -
[223] - Quote
Harry Forever wrote:Marlona Sky wrote: If you or Khergit can write up something that is not terrible for someones eyes to read that is factual and encompasses your adventures up there, please send it in to the TMC submissions or contact me. I think an article about so called Carebears Into The Wild would be a great read.
ok cool, i put something together! I can do some writing too, if people will send me their action reports. (I'm still training skills, I won't be flying ships in the carebear asymmetrical warfare effort for a couple of weeks). |
Harry Forever
SpaceJunkys
169
|
Posted - 2013.06.26 19:18:00 -
[224] - Quote
Khergit Deserters wrote:Harry Forever wrote:Marlona Sky wrote: If you or Khergit can write up something that is not terrible for someones eyes to read that is factual and encompasses your adventures up there, please send it in to the TMC submissions or contact me. I think an article about so called Carebears Into The Wild would be a great read.
ok cool, i put something together! I can do some writing too, if people will send me their action reports. (I'm still training skills, I won't be flying ships in the carebear asymmetrical warfare effort for a couple of weeks).
great! just send a report to Marlona how everything started, lets see if that is useful and we can coordinate together if some weekly updates are needed, lets wait for the first feedback... OMG! the asteroid is depleted! |
Herzog Wolfhammer
Sigma Special Tactics Group
2935
|
Posted - 2013.06.26 20:39:00 -
[225] - Quote
Save your killmails too - I'm thinking that somebody might want to put together a KB in the future.
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Zeus Zed
Federal Navy Academy Gallente Federation
10
|
Posted - 2013.06.27 06:54:00 -
[226] - Quote
We had a great time yesterday with Harry. We managed to fly all the way to the hive's nest and also scored a couple of kills - but not the ones we wanted unfortunately. But it was very fun for a newbie like myself to fly all the way to Goonswarm's hq, stay alive to tell the story and on top of that win some pvp fights.
PS.: The degree of carebearism of Goons can not be put in words |
Harry Forever
SpaceJunkys
170
|
Posted - 2013.06.27 07:17:00 -
[227] - Quote
Zeus Zed wrote:We had a great time yesterday with Harry. We managed to fly all the way to the hive's nest and also scored a couple of kills - but not the ones we wanted unfortunately. But it was very fun for a newbie like myself to fly all the way to Goonswarm's hq, stay alive to tell the story and on top of that win some pvp fights.
PS.: The degree of carebearism of Goons can not be put in words
I hope we did not shoot carebears who wanted to fight on our side :D maybe we check local next time and see if they want to fleet up to kill some goons :D OMG! the asteroid is depleted! |
Deano McCandless
The McCandless Clan
0
|
Posted - 2013.06.27 08:05:00 -
[228] - Quote
I too shall follow you and I shall play this anthem for us from the speakers on my Reaper!
If there's a God or any kind of justice under the sky If there's a point, if there's a reason to live or die Ha, if there's an answer to the questions we feel bound to ask Show yourself - destroy our fears - release your mask Oh yes, we'll keep on trying Hey, tread that fine line (Yeah) yeah We'll keep on smiling, yeah (Yeah) (yeah) (yeah) And whatever will be - will be We'll just keep on trying We'll just keep on trying Till the end of time Till the end of time Till the end of time |
Devon Weeks
Shapier Industries Initiative Associates
7
|
Posted - 2013.06.27 08:05:00 -
[229] - Quote
We create a new corp! We'll call it....
http://imgur.com/ezCEnj3 |
Zeus Zed
Federal Navy Academy Gallente Federation
10
|
Posted - 2013.06.27 10:07:00 -
[230] - Quote
LOL this is just great and very much to the point! Well done! |
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Sol Kal'orr
TLSG
10
|
Posted - 2013.06.27 11:05:00 -
[231] - Quote
I have successfully extracted my Slasher from VFK!
The might of the Goonion couldn't kill my 3mil Slasher, but now I am lost. What do I do next to aide the death of the CFC?
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Harry Forever
SpaceJunkys
171
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Posted - 2013.06.27 12:10:00 -
[232] - Quote
Sol Kal'orr wrote:I have successfully extracted my Slasher from VFK!
The might of the Goonion couldn't kill my 3mil Slasher, but now I am lost. What do I do next to aide the death of the CFC?
jump 100k to Mittanigrade the main base in VFK, cloak up or patrol the area until a pod or small ship arrives and hunt it down, there is often a small ship making cyno field or something infront of the station, thats fulnerable, blast it, you might damge their infrastructure
go to the belts searching for some miners as well, join channel SpaceJunkys and go with us next time, actually there might be people there now who can join you in a run OMG! the asteroid is depleted! |
HugeMidget Tokila
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
0
|
Posted - 2013.06.27 21:30:00 -
[233] - Quote
Awww this thread is adorable! I hope some more of you guys actually make it all the way to VFK, we'd love to use you to break in our newbies. |
Kristinn FJ
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
2
|
Posted - 2013.06.27 21:58:00 -
[234] - Quote
Harry Forever wrote: a pod or small ship arrives and hunt it down, there is often a small ship making cyno field or something infront of the station, thats fulnerable, blast it, you might damge their infrastructure
Hey Harry! I love the crusade, you're always welcome here in VFK! If you see a pod, please shoot it! That way you're doing God's work and fighting the good fight! |
Harry Forever
SpaceJunkys
173
|
Posted - 2013.06.27 22:03:00 -
[235] - Quote
HugeMidget Tokila wrote:Awww this thread is adorable! I hope some more of you guys actually make it all the way to VFK, we'd love to use you to break in our newbies.
yea we have seen them, please tell them the difference between a blaster and a mining laser, they seem to have some issues with that OMG! the asteroid is depleted! |
Onictus
Silver Snake Enterprise Fatal Ascension
282
|
Posted - 2013.06.28 02:04:00 -
[236] - Quote
The Goons are ebil and TEST are just put upon do gooders
http://evenews24.com/2013/06/27/nyx-killed-in-fountain/
They scammed that guy, invited him to a corp, jumped him out and then nuked him. Something about not wanting carebears.
/shrug. |
Zeus Zed
Federal Navy Academy Gallente Federation
14
|
Posted - 2013.06.28 06:52:00 -
[237] - Quote
Kristinn FJ wrote:Harry Forever wrote: a pod or small ship arrives and hunt it down, there is often a small ship making cyno field or something infront of the station, thats fulnerable, blast it, you might damge their infrastructure
Hey Harry! I love the crusade, you're always welcome here in VFK! If you see a pod, please shoot it! That way you're doing God's work and fighting the good fight!
Playing this down only works with your corpmates. We arrived at your doorstep and all we encountered along the way was carebears of the purest form. Goons flying around in Noctises, others doing pi, mining, ratting. Nobody engaged us. We bummed into Goons who install cloaked when they noticed us. So many carebears who hide in their sov to do the exact things they troll he players for doing.
Losers. |
Harry Forever
SpaceJunkys
179
|
Posted - 2013.06.28 10:27:00 -
[238] - Quote
Kristinn FJ wrote:Harry Forever wrote: a pod or small ship arrives and hunt it down, there is often a small ship making cyno field or something infront of the station, thats fulnerable, blast it, you might damge their infrastructure
Hey Harry! I love the crusade, you're always welcome here in VFK! If you see a pod, please shoot it! That way you're doing God's work and fighting the good fight!
last time I jumped in, 12 vs. 1, every L1 mission runner loves more challange then you null-sec people OMG! the asteroid is depleted! |
Kristinn FJ
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
2
|
Posted - 2013.06.28 11:31:00 -
[239] - Quote
Zeus Zed wrote:Kristinn FJ wrote:Harry Forever wrote: a pod or small ship arrives and hunt it down, there is often a small ship making cyno field or something infront of the station, thats fulnerable, blast it, you might damge their infrastructure
Hey Harry! I love the crusade, you're always welcome here in VFK! If you see a pod, please shoot it! That way you're doing God's work and fighting the good fight! Playing this down only works with your corpmates. We arrived at your doorstep and all we encountered along the way was carebears of the purest form. Goons flying around in Noctises, others doing pi, mining, ratting. Nobody engaged us. We bummed into Goons who install cloaked when they noticed us. So many carebears who hide in their sov doing the exact things they troll HS players for. Losers.
Don't worry man, it's all good. Those self-destruct timers are really quite long, so you get to pad your killmail and we get to go places faster! Everybody wins! |
SKINE DMZ
The Scope Gallente Federation
30
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Posted - 2013.06.28 11:58:00 -
[240] - Quote
I think the people who have gone on a trip to VFK/goons now have realised they are the real carebears although they will never admit it. We know better. |
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Harry Forever
SpaceJunkys
179
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Posted - 2013.06.28 12:42:00 -
[241] - Quote
Deano McCandless wrote:I too shall follow you and I shall play this anthem for us from the speakers on my Reaper!
If there's a God or any kind of justice under the sky If there's a point, if there's a reason to live or die Ha, if there's an answer to the questions we feel bound to ask Show yourself - destroy our fears - release your mask Oh yes, we'll keep on trying Hey, tread that fine line (Yeah) yeah We'll keep on smiling, yeah (Yeah) (yeah) (yeah) And whatever will be - will be We'll just keep on trying We'll just keep on trying Till the end of time Till the end of time Till the end of time
we love good music on our runs, hop into SpaceJunkys channel, fly with us and strike up another song with screaming goons as background singers :D OMG! the asteroid is depleted! |
Khergit Deserters
Crom's Angels
1253
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Posted - 2013.06.28 14:36:00 -
[242] - Quote
OK, TEST is just as bad as Goons. We might have to invade them next. |
tamaz
Viziam Amarr Empire
0
|
Posted - 2013.06.28 14:40:00 -
[243] - Quote
I've been hoping for the Burn VFK mission but my agent doesn't seem to offer it me, am I doing something wrong? |
SKINE DMZ
The Scope Gallente Federation
32
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Posted - 2013.06.28 14:42:00 -
[244] - Quote
Yes, change agents to "Harry Forever". |
tamaz
Viziam Amarr Empire
0
|
Posted - 2013.06.28 14:52:00 -
[245] - Quote
Does his LP store have faction ships?
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Harry Forever
SpaceJunkys
179
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Posted - 2013.06.28 16:12:00 -
[246] - Quote
tamaz wrote: Does his LP store have faction ships?
our faction ships are carebear frigates, you get one for free if you proof to be a kamikazebear
just hop into SpaceJunkys channel and fly with us, goontears are our LP OMG! the asteroid is depleted! |
Harry Forever
SpaceJunkys
179
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Posted - 2013.06.28 16:15:00 -
[247] - Quote
Khergit Deserters wrote:OK, TEST is just as bad as Goons. We might have to invade them next.
we should just go to the big goon/TEST fights and stealth bomb into their battles
too bad this killtree takes ages OMG! the asteroid is depleted! |
tamaz
Viziam Amarr Empire
2
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Posted - 2013.06.28 16:21:00 -
[248] - Quote
I can't find the mission on eve-survival, what damage do the rats do?
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Khergit Deserters
Crom's Angels
1254
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Posted - 2013.06.28 16:28:00 -
[249] - Quote
tamaz wrote: I can't find the mission on eve-survival, what damage do the rats do?
Seems like a lot of them are fit with civilian mining lasers. You're pretty safe if you don't fly an asteroid. |
Harry Forever
SpaceJunkys
179
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Posted - 2013.06.28 16:45:00 -
[250] - Quote
Khergit Deserters wrote:tamaz wrote: I can't find the mission on eve-survival, what damage do the rats do?
Seems like a lot of them are fit with civilian mining lasers. You're pretty safe if you don't fly an asteroid.
:DDD OMG! the asteroid is depleted! |
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Khergit Deserters
Crom's Angels
1255
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Posted - 2013.06.28 21:50:00 -
[251] - Quote
Any new reports, soldiers? |
Harry Forever
SpaceJunkys
179
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Posted - 2013.06.28 22:15:00 -
[252] - Quote
Khergit Deserters wrote:Any new reports, soldiers?
we are sitting in VFK right now... detailed report soon incoming ;) ...just educating some goons in local at the moment OMG! the asteroid is depleted! |
Aidan Brooder
Dynasphere Ltd.
285
|
Posted - 2013.06.29 01:44:00 -
[253] - Quote
Confirming that VDK-IV is a fun system with very hospitable people, but does not have nachos, kebab, burgers or beer.
Take your own provisions before joining Harry's good cause. Blog: http://aidanbrooder.wordpress.com My EVE YouTube Vids (most recent): http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=T2alSWxXQbI http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1SEzNNYSlDE |
Alavaria Fera
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
3746
|
Posted - 2013.06.29 03:41:00 -
[254] - Quote
Aidan Brooder wrote:Confirming that VDK-IV is a fun system with very hospitable people, but does not have nachos, kebab, burgers or beer.
Take your own provisions before joining Harry's good cause. There is stuff, but it might be hard to dock and retrieve "the goods". There are no goons. The goons' 0.0 dream is over.
TEST Defence, Please Ignore |
Jacada Ansari
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
30
|
Posted - 2013.06.29 08:37:00 -
[255] - Quote
Harry is actually a goon alt trying to lure pubbies into our space to get blown up. So far its working! Good job Harry! Keep on bringing them carebears to the slaughterhouse! |
Harry Forever
SpaceJunkys
180
|
Posted - 2013.06.29 09:43:00 -
[256] - Quote
Jacada Ansari wrote:Harry is actually a goon alt trying to lure pubbies into our space to get blown up. So far its working! Good job Harry! Keep on bringing them carebears to the slaughterhouse!
your "slaughterhouse" feels more like a carebear-spa, you people should undock a bit more often, I had to take another nap in your system because i got so tired OMG! the asteroid is depleted! |
Harry Forever
SpaceJunkys
180
|
Posted - 2013.06.29 09:47:00 -
[257] - Quote
Alavaria Fera wrote:Aidan Brooder wrote:Confirming that VDK-IV is a fun system with very hospitable people, but does not have nachos, kebab, burgers or beer.
Take your own provisions before joining Harry's good cause. There is stuff, but it might be hard to dock and retrieve "the goods".
true https://twitter.com/geistreiches/status/347271070723739648/photo/1 docking rights would be awesome
give us a few mining barges maybe as well, your asteroid belts feel quite lonely OMG! the asteroid is depleted! |
Aidan Brooder
Dynasphere Ltd.
288
|
Posted - 2013.06.29 14:06:00 -
[258] - Quote
Alavaria Fera wrote:Aidan Brooder wrote:Confirming that VDK-IV is a fun system with very hospitable people, but does not have nachos, kebab, burgers or beer.
Take your own provisions before joining Harry's good cause. There is stuff, but it might be hard to dock and retrieve "the goods".
If you open up a McGoon Fly By & a pub, I'll probably stay forever. Blog: http://aidanbrooder.wordpress.com My EVE YouTube Vids (most recent): http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=T2alSWxXQbI http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1SEzNNYSlDE |
Zimmy Zeta
Dreddit Test Alliance Please Ignore
24200
|
Posted - 2013.06.29 14:26:00 -
[259] - Quote
Khergit Deserters wrote:OK, TEST is just as bad as Goons. We might have to invade them next.
Yet still we are the good guys.
So if this is what the good guys do, can you even begin to imagine how incredibly evil the bad guys must be?
Just think of how bad an average post by me is, and then realize half of them are even worse |
Harry Forever
SpaceJunkys
180
|
Posted - 2013.06.29 15:43:00 -
[260] - Quote
week 2
3 bomber pilots and my algos where heading for VFK, SpaceJunkys chat channel becomming more crowded, carebears searching for fleetmates hunting down goons, Mittanigrade seems to be sieged, other troopers fly around in space mentioning "freedome for all cearbears" in their bios, even a carrier had to escape that gang... all seen cloaked up in my ship
the movement is happening, no expert skills or expensive ships needed, come to VFK, and take a nap there for the night like me and my friends, you will see its a cosy place, and you be able to hunt down a goon pod or ship from time to time... like I did today after I woke up, nothing better then goons for breakfast... to be continued OMG! the asteroid is depleted! |
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baltec1
Bat Country
7065
|
Posted - 2013.06.29 15:52:00 -
[261] - Quote
Zimmy Zeta wrote:Khergit Deserters wrote:OK, TEST is just as bad as Goons. We might have to invade them next. Yet still we are the good guys. So if this is what the good guys do, can you even begin to imagine how incredibly evil the bad guys must be?
Confirming that we are the ones who gave ninja turtles to michal bay. |
Zimmy Zeta
Dreddit Test Alliance Please Ignore
24207
|
Posted - 2013.06.29 16:02:00 -
[262] - Quote
baltec1 wrote:Zimmy Zeta wrote:Khergit Deserters wrote:OK, TEST is just as bad as Goons. We might have to invade them next. Yet still we are the good guys. So if this is what the good guys do, can you even begin to imagine how incredibly evil the bad guys must be? Confirming that we are the ones who gave ninja turtles to michal bay.
Dafuq? I thought this project was abandoned in shame. Now I read this movie is planed to be released 2014
You...what have you done?
Just think of how bad an average post by me is, and then realize half of them are even worse |
Aidan Brooder
Dynasphere Ltd.
288
|
Posted - 2013.06.29 16:10:00 -
[263] - Quote
Turtles are lame... Wearing my Terror Bears T-shirt today to honor our great liberator Harry Forever, while listening to Jita-style talk in VFK-IV.
Terror Bears: http://3.bp.blogspot.com/__8tv2laMEBk/TUSgcoOGWZI/AAAAAAAAFL0/eAtf40jwzLQ/s400/TMNTStrangeness03.jpg
Carebears, join the cause!
For all you can lose is some ISK... Blog: http://aidanbrooder.wordpress.com My EVE YouTube Vids (most recent): http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=T2alSWxXQbI http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1SEzNNYSlDE |
Zimmy Zeta
Dreddit Test Alliance Please Ignore
24211
|
Posted - 2013.06.29 16:19:00 -
[264] - Quote
But if you don't care about turtles at all, why are you even bothering?
Just think of how bad an average post by me is, and then realize half of them are even worse |
Aidan Brooder
Dynasphere Ltd.
289
|
Posted - 2013.06.29 16:32:00 -
[265] - Quote
Never said that... Turtles are tasty and come with their own soup bowl!
All you need is a saw... Blog: http://aidanbrooder.wordpress.com My EVE YouTube Vids (most recent): http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=T2alSWxXQbI http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1SEzNNYSlDE |
baltec1
Bat Country
7066
|
Posted - 2013.06.29 16:37:00 -
[266] - Quote
We have also given the go ahead to a terminator remake. If you continue to resist we will give a green light to a second eragon with the same cast. |
Aidan Brooder
Dynasphere Ltd.
289
|
Posted - 2013.06.29 16:44:00 -
[267] - Quote
baltec1 wrote:We have also given the go ahead to a terminator remake. If you continue to resist we will give a green light to a second eragon with the same cast.
You start to scare me a bit, but I'm not really worried until you threaten to release a remake of the Waltons with the old cast. Blog: http://aidanbrooder.wordpress.com My EVE YouTube Vids (most recent): http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=T2alSWxXQbI http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1SEzNNYSlDE |
Jonah Gravenstein
Caliban Logistics and Storage
9440
|
Posted - 2013.06.29 16:47:00 -
[268] - Quote
baltec1 wrote:We have also given the go ahead to a terminator remake. If you continue to resist we will give a green light to a second eragon with the same cast. Can you get Ghostbusters on the remake list?
In Eve you're a god, why have morals? |
Sergeant Acht Scultz
School of Applied Knowledge Caldari State
912
|
Posted - 2013.06.29 16:51:00 -
[269] - Quote
Jonah Gravenstein wrote:baltec1 wrote:We have also given the go ahead to a terminator remake. If you continue to resist we will give a green light to a second eragon with the same cast. Can you get Ghostbusters on the remake list?
Someone put a bounty on this guy or kill it please *removed inappropriate ASCII art signature* - CCP Eterne |
Zimmy Zeta
Dreddit Test Alliance Please Ignore
24213
|
Posted - 2013.06.29 16:52:00 -
[270] - Quote
baltec1 wrote:We have also given the go ahead to a terminator remake. If you continue to resist we will give a green light to a second eragon with the same cast.
All right. This is it, young man. We gave you your beloved Twinkies back- don't make us regret our decision and take them away again.
Just think of how bad an average post by me is, and then realize half of them are even worse |
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Herzog Wolfhammer
Sigma Special Tactics Group
2941
|
Posted - 2013.06.29 20:32:00 -
[271] - Quote
Harry Forever wrote:week 2
3 bomber pilots and my algos where heading for VFK, SpaceJunkys chat channel becomming more crowded, carebears searching for fleetmates hunting down goons, Mittanigrad seems to be sieged, other troopers fly around in space mentioning "freedome for all cearbears" in their bios, even a carrier had to escape that gang... all seen cloaked up in my ship
the movement is happening, no expert skills or expensive ships needed, come to VFK, and take a nap there for the night like me and my friends, you will see its a cosy place, and you be able to hunt down a goon pod or ship from time to time... like I did today after I woke up, nothing better then goons for breakfast... to be continued
Suddenly I realize I've been playing this game wrong for 7 years and I even feel inadequate in the bedroom now.
30 more rifters coming. Check your contracts.
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Aidan Brooder
Dynasphere Ltd.
290
|
Posted - 2013.06.30 03:50:00 -
[272] - Quote
Well, they got me after 56 hours. Poor accident, I wasn't paying attention to jump lines while trying to move out of VFK-IV.
Shyte happens!
Anyway, it gave me a chance to upgrade my stealth bomber and I just lost a cheap jump clone. So, Herzog, if you want to join us tomorrow, you are more than welcome!
This time our cuisine de noob will bring an interesting new flavor to the mix. Blog: http://aidanbrooder.wordpress.com My EVE YouTube Vids (most recent): http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=T2alSWxXQbI http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1SEzNNYSlDE |
Herzog Wolfhammer
Sigma Special Tactics Group
2941
|
Posted - 2013.06.30 04:26:00 -
[273] - Quote
I had a better time. Got ganked by a girlfriend in a summer dress.
30 Kestrels in production, Algos or Incursus next.
We need more noobs. |
Vortexo VonBrenner
Coldest Sea Sailing
581
|
Posted - 2013.06.30 05:44:00 -
[274] - Quote
Ace Uoweme wrote:Evangelina Nolen wrote:Chances of this happening are lower than CCP letting us re-allocate skill points. Yep. Because there's no benefit.Losing ships + implants for a dog and pony show isn't worth the effort. The prime problem is the old EvE motto: if you can't afford losing it, don't do it -- and I'm not inclined in throwing away 170mil+ each time on some blob, which once defeated is supplanted by another blob. Wash. Rinse. Repeat ad nauseum . - No benefit? Yes there is - your amusement. Getting your pixels abruptly converted into sparkly, boomy pixels doesn't matter if you get amusement out of whatever you are doing. - Well...don't take a clone with implants then... Anybody can get jump clones from Estel Arador Corp Services for a donation of any amount. It's pretty easy and cheap... - Um...don't fly that 170m ship, then...fly something cheaper... "Don't fly what you can't afford to lose" is certainly a good principle, but it doesn't just mean isk price for replacing that particular ship...If you can afford it mentally if you lose that ship and aren't going to have Space Pixel Acute Separation fits over it, you can afford it. - "Pony show" when talking about carebears? Hmm...I see what you did there... Double hmm...*wonders if I just fell for trolling*
Ramona McCandless wrote:Khergit Deserters wrote:Che Guevara, Geronimo, William Wallace, V, Frodo, Don Quixote-- crazy little guy going against the odds is a fine tradition. Go 'bears! Win or lose, you'll have some stories to tell. Some of these people aren't real, you do know that don't you? YOU SHUT UP! YOU SHUT UP RIGHT NOW! *sob*
I'm listening to-áBj+¦rk, playing EVE, eating fishsticks, and I'm cold....this is immersion gaming. |
Katran Luftschreck
Royal Ammatar Engineering Corps
1542
|
Posted - 2013.06.30 07:27:00 -
[275] - Quote
Harry Forever wrote:CareBears Unite and lets hit the goons from behind!
But I heard that the Goons like getting hit from behind?
Oh you meant PvP... sorry. The day CCP codes together a bot program that slaps 30 day forum bans on anyone who says "can I have your stuff?" the overall average IQ of the EvE forums will quintuple overnight. |
Elizabeth Aideron
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
44
|
Posted - 2013.06.30 07:49:00 -
[276] - Quote
Katran Luftschreck wrote:Harry Forever wrote:CareBears Unite and lets hit the goons from behind! But I heard that the Goons like getting hit from behind? Oh you meant PvP... sorry.
why would someone want to punched in the back? how odd |
Kijo Rikki
Powder and Ball Alchemists Union The Predictables
416
|
Posted - 2013.06.30 07:53:00 -
[277] - Quote
Elizabeth Aideron wrote:Katran Luftschreck wrote:Harry Forever wrote:CareBears Unite and lets hit the goons from behind! But I heard that the Goons like getting hit from behind? Oh you meant PvP... sorry. why would someone want to punched in the back? how odd
I think she meant punched in the butt... |
Elizabeth Aideron
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
44
|
Posted - 2013.06.30 07:54:00 -
[278] - Quote
thats even stranger. perhaps im missing something? |
Kijo Rikki
Powder and Ball Alchemists Union The Predictables
417
|
Posted - 2013.06.30 07:56:00 -
[279] - Quote
maybe its that funny looking fist. |
SKINE DMZ
YouView INC
36
|
Posted - 2013.06.30 08:00:00 -
[280] - Quote
its an insider joke, i dont think a goon would get it |
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Harry Forever
SpaceJunkys
184
|
Posted - 2013.06.30 08:49:00 -
[281] - Quote
weekend update
things are running smooth, yesterday we where able to bring down a cyno field right infront of mittanigrad, even so goons are still happy in local when we arrive, seems we make their boring stay at the station a bit more exciting
however we need more people to join the fight! I have a solid stock of frigs and other ships from our investors to support our troopers, join SpaceJunkys chat channel and let me know, my corp is also open for recruitment, if you are a carebear and want to hunt the hunters look no further! OMG! the asteroid is depleted! |
Aidan Brooder
Dynasphere Ltd.
295
|
Posted - 2013.07.01 03:12:00 -
[282] - Quote
Ace Uoweme wrote:Evangelina Nolen wrote:Chances of this happening are lower than CCP letting us re-allocate skill points. Yep. Because there's no benefit.Losing ships + implants for a dog and pony show isn't worth the effort. The prime problem is the old EvE motto: if you can't afford losing it, don't do it -- and I'm not inclined in throwing away 170mil+ each time on some blob, which once defeated is supplanted by another blob. Wash. Rinse. Repeat ad nauseum .
Of course Mr Uoweme doesn't realize here that the way to VFK-IV is a long one... And can be quite profitable. We took some time moving ships through the usual entry bubble today.
Then - with just a little time of exploration in some systems - made enough to replace them all plus some... About 150M in a very short time.
((Our industrialist (yes, we have only one, but he is quite good) will make it worth even more. No, we won't lose the stuff. It is already safe.))
Shorter time than doing a few level 4 Missions, getting the Noctis to farm everything off.
And certainly a much shorter time than to sit in a belt trying to make the ISK with HS mining.
Don't get me wrong, I don't condemn those activities. Just to make sure some certain people understand a bit more on the "benefits", before they shout their opinions on pony shows at some uncaring skies... Blog: http://aidanbrooder.wordpress.com My EVE YouTube Vids (most recent): http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=T2alSWxXQbI http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1SEzNNYSlDE |
Herzog Wolfhammer
Sigma Special Tactics Group
2947
|
Posted - 2013.07.01 04:27:00 -
[283] - Quote
Aidan Brooder wrote:Ace Uoweme wrote:Evangelina Nolen wrote:Chances of this happening are lower than CCP letting us re-allocate skill points. Yep. Because there's no benefit.Losing ships + implants for a dog and pony show isn't worth the effort. The prime problem is the old EvE motto: if you can't afford losing it, don't do it -- and I'm not inclined in throwing away 170mil+ each time on some blob, which once defeated is supplanted by another blob. Wash. Rinse. Repeat ad nauseum . Of course Mr Uoweme doesn't realize here that the way to VFK-IV is a long one... And can be quite profitable. We took some time moving ships through the usual entry bubble today. Then - with just a little time of exploration in some systems - made enough to replace them all plus some... About 150M in a very short time. ((Our industrialist (yes, we have only one, but he is quite good) will make it worth even more. No, we won't lose the stuff. It is already safe.)) Less time needed than doing a few level 4 Missions, getting the Noctis to farm everything off. And certainly less time than to sit in a belt trying to make the ISK with HS mining. Don't get me wrong, I don't condemn those activities. Just to make sure some certain people understand the "benefits" a bit better, before they shout their opinions on pony shows at some uncaring sky...
Had some rifter lulz last night but find that an alt with less than half a million SP has issues beating a corax, but I'll go through a few more of them to come up with a more survivable fit. At least the Russian in the Corax is always there to run tests with.
More time spent moving BPs around though - and a lot was accomplished right up till downtime.
These being the summer months, a lot of people are AFK. School's out, trips to be had, people to visit - but I think that by the time people are coming back to the game we will have a lot of experience and some "standard fits" for the noobs.
This is just the beginning. Much is said about the status quo of highsec, but it's the status quo of nullsec that is more profitable and more ferociously defended. I'm starting to think that the complaints about highsec are merely just a strawman to distract from the fact that is' nullsec that comprises the ISK fountain and it's full of bears.
So they will lie and do their best to contain highsec, to keep what they think is theirs.
Years from now these players will talk of such times as the good times, and lament how in 2013, the year Eve turned 10, it all started to change. The "rabble", the "scrubs" and the "pubbies" cannot be contained forever.
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Harry Forever
SpaceJunkys
184
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Posted - 2013.07.01 09:26:00 -
[284] - Quote
I get the feeling goon alts try to spread fear about null-sec just to have their safe spot down there at VFK, this is so predictable, If all carebears would know how easy it is to fly around there and hunt some of them down, god that place would be packed like jita OMG! the asteroid is depleted! |
Herzog Wolfhammer
Sigma Special Tactics Group
2948
|
Posted - 2013.07.01 18:12:00 -
[285] - Quote
Things are going to be a little chaotic out there for a bit
Fire for effect. |
Khergit Deserters
Crom's Angels
1264
|
Posted - 2013.07.01 22:05:00 -
[286] - Quote
That's a great image. I put it on an ugly little website I made for the carebear movement. It's so carebear it even has WoW ads on it.
Keep on picking off the stragglers there, 'Bears! |
Aidan Brooder
Dynasphere Ltd.
300
|
Posted - 2013.07.02 01:07:00 -
[287] - Quote
Yeah, I heard. :-)
Myself, I'd say: Neat move.
Goons. Test. Rest. Doesn't really make a difference for us in the end, does it now?
Blog: http://aidanbrooder.wordpress.com My EVE YouTube Vids (most recent): http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=T2alSWxXQbI
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1SEzNNYSlDE |
Aidan Brooder
Dynasphere Ltd.
300
|
Posted - 2013.07.02 01:11:00 -
[288] - Quote
Khergit Deserters wrote:That's a great image. I put it on an ugly little website I made for the carebear movement. It's so carebear it even has WoW ads on it. Keep on picking off the stragglers there, 'Bears!
Thanks... We've made quite some more ISK for Harry's cause and moved to VFK-IV again to celebrate and make a few toasts.
Reinforcements are soon to follow up... Blog: http://aidanbrooder.wordpress.com My EVE YouTube Vids (most recent): http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=T2alSWxXQbI
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1SEzNNYSlDE |
Joan Greywind
Temnava Legion No Holes Barred
32
|
Posted - 2013.07.02 04:05:00 -
[289] - Quote
I don't know if trolling "squinty eyes" or serious. |
Rexxorr
Zero Corp Tax
40
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Posted - 2013.07.02 04:10:00 -
[290] - Quote
Whats this ? something going on null, thats nice.
Welp back to mining, making big rocks into smaller rocks. |
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Harry Forever
SpaceJunkys
189
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Posted - 2013.07.02 09:55:00 -
[291] - Quote
Khergit Deserters wrote:That's a great image. I put it on an ugly little website I made for the carebear movement. It's so carebear it even has WoW ads on it. Keep on picking off the stragglers there, 'Bears!
:D nice one! pefect the movement spreads across the web! all carebears burn down the hive! OMG! the asteroid is depleted! |
Aidan Brooder
Dynasphere Ltd.
301
|
Posted - 2013.07.02 10:18:00 -
[292] - Quote
Joan Greywind wrote:I don't know if trolling "squinty eyes" or serious.
No need for trolling "awfully plain looking basement lady".
We are Kamikaze Bears come to show the carebears of HS the beauties of adrenaline rush, fun & Null Sec profit...
Because anything is better than Quote:making big rocks into smaller rocks. for pocket change or flying missions and everyone can do better than that if he/she wants to.
We somehow always end up in VFK-IV after our ISK producing activities for the cause, as the Goons are so lonely in their station.
All you need to accept is from time to time your ship gets blown up and freedom is yours! Join Harry Forever today! Blog: http://aidanbrooder.wordpress.com My EVE YouTube Vids (most recent): http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=T2alSWxXQbI
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1SEzNNYSlDE |
Khergit Deserters
Crom's Angels
1266
|
Posted - 2013.07.02 15:30:00 -
[293] - Quote
Aidan Brooder wrote:Joan Greywind wrote:I don't know if trolling "squinty eyes" or serious. No need for trolling "awfully plain looking basement lady". Ha ha!
What other systems we hitting besides VFK-IV? |
Herzog Wolfhammer
Sigma Special Tactics Group
2976
|
Posted - 2013.07.02 15:42:00 -
[294] - Quote
The rest of nullsec is next.
Important reading assignment. |
Aidan Brooder
Dynasphere Ltd.
304
|
Posted - 2013.07.02 15:52:00 -
[295] - Quote
Add Edward Luttwak "Coup d'Etat" to your reading list. Also many of his other books are quite a good read. Blog: http://aidanbrooder.wordpress.com My EVE YouTube Vids (most recent): http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=T2alSWxXQbI
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1SEzNNYSlDE |
Khergit Deserters
Crom's Angels
1266
|
Posted - 2013.07.02 19:27:00 -
[296] - Quote
Cool. All elements are present in our asymmetrical warfare operations. Except "non-combatants are tactical dilemmas." There are no non-combatants in Goonland.
Fourth generation warfare is defined as conflicts which involve the following elements:
Are complex and long term Terrorism (tactic) A non-national or transnational base GÇôhighly decentralized A direct attack on the enemy's culture Highly sophisticated psychological warfare, especially through media manipulation and lawfare All available pressures are used GÇô political, economic, social and military Occurs in low intensity conflict, involving actors from all networks Non-combatants are tactical dilemmas Lack of hierarchy Small in size, spread out network of communication and financial support Use of Insurgency and guerrilla tactics |
Norm Tempesta
The Konvergent League Sev3rance
34
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Posted - 2013.07.02 20:52:00 -
[297] - Quote
I really like this movement you have going Harry. Sounds like fun.
Some of the best roams are where a group of likeminded people get together and decide " we will come back when we die". And go and have a blast. If you have a purpose to go along with this, so much the better.
Fly long, Fly hard......... |
Jahman Arran
Grease Monkeys
0
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Posted - 2013.07.02 22:57:00 -
[298] - Quote
Hello fellow noobears, how me and my fellow monkeys can join this incredible mass of caos and care ? |
Jahman Arran
Grease Monkeys
0
|
Posted - 2013.07.02 23:05:00 -
[299] - Quote
Im offering our huepower. To your cause.
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Setaceous
Nexus Prima
148
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Posted - 2013.07.03 00:00:00 -
[300] - Quote
Khergit Deserters wrote:That's a great image. I put it on an ugly little website I made for the carebear movement. It's so carebear it even has WoW ads on it. Keep on picking off the stragglers there, 'Bears!
This was quite obviously made for another game, but feel free to crop it if you want:
http://i74.photobucket.com/albums/i257/Baneus/carebears.jpg |
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Khergit Deserters
Crom's Angels
1269
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Posted - 2013.07.03 00:48:00 -
[301] - Quote
Jahman Arran wrote:Hello fellow noobears, how me and my fellow monkeys can join this incredible mass of caos and care ? Greetings, Jahman Arran, I'm glad you showed up. You are just the right capsuleer to take care of this problem.
Mission briefing A group calling themselves Goonswarm has set up shop in some frontier systems. We need you to clear them out, or convince them to let people mine in those systems in peace. Use of excessive force is authorized.
The following objectives must be completed to finish the mission: Go to the Goonswarm's basement and eliminate any stray Goons you may encounter there.
Mission Location VFK-IV -0.8 Mittaningrad. Or deeper yet into their crib, if you want. It's all up to you.
Rewards The following rewards will be yours if you complete this mission: Good times and explosions. Some theirs, some yours. Plus pride in the knowledge that you have made the world a better place in which to live. |
Herzog Wolfhammer
Sigma Special Tactics Group
2978
|
Posted - 2013.07.03 04:45:00 -
[302] - Quote
Rumor has it a bigger ship caught fire recently.
I think the goons need to review their fire safety protocols. |
knobber Jobbler
Bat Country Goonswarm Federation
245
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Posted - 2013.07.03 06:12:00 -
[303] - Quote
Aidan Brooder wrote:Khergit Deserters wrote:That's a great image. I put it on an ugly little website I made for the carebear movement. It's so carebear it even has WoW ads on it. Keep on picking off the stragglers there, 'Bears! Thanks... We've made quite some more ISK for Harry's cause and moved to VFK-IV again to celebrate and make a few toasts. Reinforcements are soon to follow up...
This is going to come as a bit of a shock, but we're not actually in vfk right now. If you want to come and take revenge/die in a fire, get to b-d in cloud ring.
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Harry Forever
SpaceJunkys
191
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Posted - 2013.07.03 06:41:00 -
[304] - Quote
knobber Jobbler wrote:
This is going to come as a bit of a shock, but we're not actually in vfk right now. If you want to come and take revenge/die in a fire, get to b-d in cloud ring.
thanks, we got that invitation already from one of your friends, is the firework ready for our arrival yet? let us know, we keep shooting VFK goons infront of mittanigrad for the time beeing... OMG! the asteroid is depleted! |
Harry Forever
SpaceJunkys
191
|
Posted - 2013.07.03 06:44:00 -
[305] - Quote
Jahman Arran wrote:Hello fellow noobears, how me and my fellow monkeys can join this incredible mass of caos and care ?
hop into SpaceJunkys chat channel, we gather up there and form fleets and stuff, you may as well also directly go to VFK and meet us in local, we often park our ships there OMG! the asteroid is depleted! |
Leafar Nightfall
Grease Monkeys
0
|
Posted - 2013.07.03 12:57:00 -
[306] - Quote
Hello Harry,
Like my fellow Jahman said, we are willing to aid your cause. I have some ships to donate and also some other plans, but for the surprise effect this would better be discussed in game. Expect my contact in there.
Those days shall be know as... Occupy Goonswarm |
Thugnificent Gangstalicio
Nigerian Drug Manufactory co. xXPlease Pandemic Citizens Reloaded Alliance.Xx
11
|
Posted - 2013.07.03 13:27:00 -
[307] - Quote
Urgh... |
Ruskarn Andedare
Lion Investments
212
|
Posted - 2013.07.03 14:01:00 -
[308] - Quote
Hey, sounds like a good use for an alt - any preferred ships or styles? |
Aidan Brooder
Dynasphere Ltd.
309
|
Posted - 2013.07.03 14:12:00 -
[309] - Quote
You can fly whatever you want... :) Blog: http://aidanbrooder.wordpress.com My EVE YouTube Vids (most recent): http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=T2alSWxXQbI http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1SEzNNYSlDE |
Harry Forever
SpaceJunkys
193
|
Posted - 2013.07.03 14:46:00 -
[310] - Quote
Ruskarn Andedare wrote:Hey, sounds like a good use for an alt - any preferred ships or styles?
at the moment I prefer a catalyst with T2 guns, but use rifters as well to bring down some easy frigates or cyno-ships infront of their base... we also have some bomber pilots who are hunting bigger ships already... I would recomment cloak device on the ship, we also have free rifter, condor and kestrel... let me know if you need one and I contract it over when you fleetup with us
if you could fly an interdictor that would be awesome as well, we want to bubble up the jumphouse to assure the goons land softly when we blob them
join SpaceJunkys chat channel and we can talk some more! OMG! the asteroid is depleted! |
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Harry Forever
SpaceJunkys
193
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Posted - 2013.07.03 17:07:00 -
[311] - Quote
just setup the first Goons Doomsday Event - 28. July
sponsored by SpaceJunkys and Friends!
https://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=posts&t=255295&find=unread OMG! the asteroid is depleted! |
Herzog Wolfhammer
Sigma Special Tactics Group
2982
|
Posted - 2013.07.03 20:56:00 -
[312] - Quote
Harry Forever wrote:Ruskarn Andedare wrote:Hey, sounds like a good use for an alt - any preferred ships or styles? at the moment I prefer a catalyst with T2 guns, but use rifters as well to bring down some easy frigates or cyno-ships infront of their base... we also have some bomber pilots who are hunting bigger ships already... I would recomment cloak device on the ship, we also have free rifter, condor and kestrel... let me know if you need one and I contract it over when you fleetup with us if you could fly an interdictor that would be awesome as well, we want to bubble up the jumphouse to assure the goons land softly when we blob them join SpaceJunkys chat channel and we can talk some more!
Coming soon: free Incursus and Algos. |
Joepopo
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
50
|
Posted - 2013.07.05 00:23:00 -
[313] - Quote
When the cat's away, the mice will play.
Have fun camping VFK. |
Setaceous
Nexus Prima
156
|
Posted - 2013.07.05 00:25:00 -
[314] - Quote
Joepopo wrote:When the cat's away, the mice will play.
Have fun camping VFK. Today probably would have been the day to shoot random things in other systems. |
Joepopo
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
50
|
Posted - 2013.07.05 06:15:00 -
[315] - Quote
Setaceous wrote:Joepopo wrote:When the cat's away, the mice will play.
Have fun camping VFK. Today probably would have been the day to shoot random things in other systems.
Like in B-D? |
Harry Forever
SpaceJunkys
205
|
Posted - 2013.07.05 08:23:00 -
[316] - Quote
Joepopo wrote:Setaceous wrote:Joepopo wrote:When the cat's away, the mice will play.
Have fun camping VFK. Today probably would have been the day to shoot random things in other systems. You could shoot all deklein it is all empty. Yesterday 1500 people were fighting in z9pp.. The cat was away.
I'm fine shooting your miners, cyno-ships and haulers... no need for your fleet to ever come back OMG! the asteroid is depleted! |
Joepopo
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
50
|
Posted - 2013.07.05 09:02:00 -
[317] - Quote
Harry Forever wrote:Joepopo wrote:Setaceous wrote:Joepopo wrote:When the cat's away, the mice will play.
Have fun camping VFK. Today probably would have been the day to shoot random things in other systems. You could shoot all deklein it is all empty. Yesterday 1500 people were fighting in z9pp.. The cat was away. I'm fine shooting your miners, cyno-ships and haulers... no need for your fleet to ever come back
It does sound like HighSec PVP. Do you flip cans too? |
Harry Forever
SpaceJunkys
205
|
Posted - 2013.07.05 09:10:00 -
[318] - Quote
Joepopo wrote:
It does sound like HighSec PVP. Do you flip cans too?
no sorry, my only profession is blowing up goon ships OMG! the asteroid is depleted! |
Herzog Wolfhammer
Sigma Special Tactics Group
2989
|
Posted - 2013.07.05 10:16:00 -
[319] - Quote
Joepopo wrote:Harry Forever wrote:Joepopo wrote:Setaceous wrote:Joepopo wrote:When the cat's away, the mice will play.
Have fun camping VFK. Today probably would have been the day to shoot random things in other systems. You could shoot all deklein it is all empty. Yesterday 1500 people were fighting in z9pp.. The cat was away. I'm fine shooting your miners, cyno-ships and haulers... no need for your fleet to ever come back It does sound like HighSec PVP. Do you flip cans too? Also: if you are fine shooting cyno frigs in a deserted system, then you have no ambition and this is just sad.
Joe, I explained the overall goals of the endeavor but you appear to be having a hard time understanding. Stick to clicking F1 when told.
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Harry Forever
SpaceJunkys
209
|
Posted - 2013.07.05 10:47:00 -
[320] - Quote
Herzog Wolfhammer wrote:Joepopo wrote:
It does sound like HighSec PVP. Do you flip cans too?
Also: if you are fine shooting cyno frigs in a deserted system, then you have no ambition and this is just sad.
Joe, I explained the overall goals of the endeavor but you appear to be having a hard time understanding. Stick to clicking F1 when told.
the more it bothers him the more I know its the right thing to do... looking forward to his reaction when I finally got my bomber skills trained up
until then, one cynoship for each burn jita victim :p OMG! the asteroid is depleted! |
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PopeUrban
El Expedicion
3
|
Posted - 2013.07.05 12:04:00 -
[321] - Quote
This is pretty popcorn worthy. Why don't you guys formalize an alliance and call it like "Nullsec Liberation Front" or something. I'd imagine that the massive potential industrial supply chain could create a suicide blob for the ages, which, if you think about it, would be hilariously ironic when pointed at goonfleet.
Also, why limit yourselves to picking on the goons specifically? There's a whole amazing ecosystem to explode out there.
This is more fun news than "Yep, still fighting over moons" at any rate. |
Joepopo
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
50
|
Posted - 2013.07.05 12:09:00 -
[322] - Quote
PopeUrban wrote:This is pretty popcorn worthy. Why don't you guys formalize an alliance and call it like "Nullsec Liberation Front" or something. I'd imagine that the massive potential industrial supply chain could create a suicide blob for the ages, which, if you think about it, would be hilariously ironic when pointed at goonfleet.
Also, why limit yourselves to picking on the goons specifically? There's a whole amazing ecosystem to explode out there.
This is more fun news than "Yep, still fighting over moons" at any rate.
They attack us because we care about them, bringing nullsec love to their sweet jita once in a while.
Edit: In fact I don t really know who they attack. We are currently in B-D. |
Harry Forever
SpaceJunkys
210
|
Posted - 2013.07.05 12:15:00 -
[323] - Quote
PopeUrban wrote:This is pretty popcorn worthy. Why don't you guys formalize an alliance and call it like "Nullsec Liberation Front" or something. I'd imagine that the massive potential industrial supply chain could create a suicide blob for the ages, which, if you think about it, would be hilariously ironic when pointed at goonfleet.
Also, why limit yourselves to picking on the goons specifically? There's a whole amazing ecosystem to explode out there.
This is more fun news than "Yep, still fighting over moons" at any rate.
yea the goons just looked like the right target to start with, having their fleet in battle with test is another advantag for our guerilla tactic, we discussed some alliance ideas but they still seem to be a bit early, at the moment we want to bring more members to the corp and have random people join our fight at VFK
the future however has huge potential, I'm sure a lot will happen the days and weeks ahead, my inbox is full each day with new ideas and stuff, even the goons get nervouse and want to know what we are up to :D OMG! the asteroid is depleted! |
PopeUrban
El Expedicion
4
|
Posted - 2013.07.05 12:22:00 -
[324] - Quote
Joepopo wrote:PopeUrban wrote:This is pretty popcorn worthy. Why don't you guys formalize an alliance and call it like "Nullsec Liberation Front" or something. I'd imagine that the massive potential industrial supply chain could create a suicide blob for the ages, which, if you think about it, would be hilariously ironic when pointed at goonfleet.
Also, why limit yourselves to picking on the goons specifically? There's a whole amazing ecosystem to explode out there.
This is more fun news than "Yep, still fighting over moons" at any rate. They attack us because we care about them, bringing nullsec love to their sweet jita once in a while. Edit: In fact I don t really know who they attack. We are currently in B-D.
Right, which is why I'm not getting it. I mean I understand being pissed at burn jita and wanting to funnel that agression, but I'm of a mind that people should either **** or get off the pot. Personally I don't care.
There's no profit in suiciding in goon space for me (or taking the time to fly there) There's nothing there I want or care about, and the whole war is this ancillary nonfactor in my day to day EVE life.
Profit doesn't motivate the decisions of everyone though. It certainly didn't motivate the burn jita event and it doesn't motivate this carebear revolt either.
I just... IDK... I never thought about it before but what if all those empire crazy multibox industrial titans actually decided to fund a war effort, and got a bunch of those can flippers, mission runners, and various other hisec combat pilots to fly the boats.
It seems like I could make a bunch more money off of that.
So people should do it. |
Harry Forever
SpaceJunkys
210
|
Posted - 2013.07.05 12:22:00 -
[325] - Quote
Joepopo wrote:PopeUrban wrote:This is pretty popcorn worthy. Why don't you guys formalize an alliance and call it like "Nullsec Liberation Front" or something. I'd imagine that the massive potential industrial supply chain could create a suicide blob for the ages, which, if you think about it, would be hilariously ironic when pointed at goonfleet.
Also, why limit yourselves to picking on the goons specifically? There's a whole amazing ecosystem to explode out there.
This is more fun news than "Yep, still fighting over moons" at any rate. They attack us because we care about them, bringing nullsec love to their sweet jita once in a while. Edit: In fact I don t really know who they attack. We are currently in B-D.
Joe you are repeating yourself, don't be so impatient, we see enough of your ships in VFK, I know you are worried that we shoot your haulers or even bring down biggers ships moving back and forth each day without protection...
however if you just let go I'm sure you will be able to get over it in case something terrible happens OMG! the asteroid is depleted! |
Joepopo
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
50
|
Posted - 2013.07.05 12:33:00 -
[326] - Quote
Harry Forever wrote:Joe you are repeating yourself, don't be so impatient, we see enough of your ships in VFK, I know you are worried that we shoot your haulers or even bring down biggers ships moving back and forth each day without protection... however if you just let go I'm sure you will be able to get over it in case something terrible happens
While we chatted I moved 2 000 000 m3 and 40 ships to VFK, fitted 9 for war and then I safely undocked and jumped to our current staging system in pure blind.
Chatting with you was nice and I could sort your lot by level of stupidity:
1 - Herzog 2 - Harry 3 - Aidan
then some people you hang out with were cool: Mila and Elzabeth
It is too bad that you chose to ignore my genuine advice:( go to actual farm zones like JU- or UJI (mining), bring vagabonds and nanoships, camp the route to B-D) and took seriously the eve mail where i offered you to join Goonswarm.
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Harry Forever
SpaceJunkys
210
|
Posted - 2013.07.05 12:37:00 -
[327] - Quote
Joepopo wrote:Harry Forever wrote:Joe you are repeating yourself, don't be so impatient, we see enough of your ships in VFK, I know you are worried that we shoot your haulers or even bring down biggers ships moving back and forth each day without protection... however if you just let go I'm sure you will be able to get over it in case something terrible happens While we chatted I moved 2 000 000 m3 and 40 ships to VFK, fitted 9 for war and then I safely undocked and jumped to our current staging system in pure blind. Chatting with you was nice and I could sort your lot by level of stupidity: 1 - Herzog 2 - Harry 3 - Aidan then some people you hang out with were cool: Mila and Elzabeth It is too bad that you chose to ignore my genuine advice:( go to actual farm zones like JU- or UJI (mining), bring vagabonds and nanoships, camp the route to B-D) and took seriously the eve mail where i offered you to join Goonswarm.
oh, now its getting personal... nice :) you should thank us for the excitment we bring to your hauling missions OMG! the asteroid is depleted! |
Joepopo
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
51
|
Posted - 2013.07.05 12:39:00 -
[328] - Quote
Harry Forever wrote: oh, now its getting personal... nice :) you should thank us for the excitment we bring to your hauling missions
it's always been personnal. |
Aidan Brooder
Dynasphere Ltd.
312
|
Posted - 2013.07.05 14:26:00 -
[329] - Quote
To Joepopo, our greatest fanboy in the GSF
Quote:They attack us because we care about them, bringing nullsec love to their sweet jita once in a while.
I don't care how many ships you burn in Jita. Nor does the rest of us. I endorse that product and think you should do it more often. Good for us.
Quote: While we chatted I moved 2 000 000 m3 and 40 ships to VFK, fitted 9 for war and then I safely undocked and jumped to our current staging system in pure blind.
I promise we will send a signed note to Mittani confirming that you did your job sitting in station all day. We like you and hope you'll get a promotion out of this. If our letter of commendation alone does not help, here is a suggestion of some trade goods that might ease your reviewal interview.
Of course most of the time we weren't in VFK-IV yesterday. We played gate games with your very brave elite vets one jump further. Please let them know that their Caracals, Manticores, Tengus, etc are actually capable of shooting, if fitted correctly. They don't have to flee all the time.
Quote:Chatting with you was nice and I could sort your lot by level of stupidity:
1 - Herzog 2 - Harry 3 - Aidan
*sighs* The things the fanboys do these days.
To Pope Urban
Quote:Right, which is why I'm not getting it. Correct, you are not getting it.
Quote:Profit doesn't motivate the decisions of everyone though. It certainly didn't motivate the burn jita event... (...)
..., and the whole war is this ancillary nonfactor in my day to day EVE life.
How much did you pay for your Joo Janta 200 Super-Chromatic Peril Sensitive Sunglasses? Blog: http://aidanbrooder.wordpress.com My EVE YouTube Vids (most recent): http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=T2alSWxXQbI
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1SEzNNYSlDE |
Khergit Deserters
Crom's Angels
1274
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Posted - 2013.07.05 14:49:00 -
[330] - Quote
PopeUrban wrote:This is pretty popcorn worthy. Why don't you guys formalize an alliance and call it like "Nullsec Liberation Front" or something. I'd imagine that the massive potential industrial supply chain could create a suicide blob for the ages, which, if you think about it, would be hilariously ironic when pointed at goonfleet. Also, why limit yourselves to picking on the goons specifically? There's a whole amazing ecosystem to explode out there. This is more fun news than "Yep, still fighting over moons" at any rate. Just speaking for myself here, but it has to be Goons first. The whole attitude of, "Hey check it out! we lied to this guy, made him trust us, and scammed him out of five years of work in EVE. And look, he's sad about it. Ha ha ha, check out the lovely tears!" Scam the guy-- fine, it's part of the game. But after you got the fat kid's lunch money, you don't have to publicly hold him down and let every other mean little punk laugh at him and spit on him.
For sure, Goons aren't the only players in EVE who enjoy harvesting tears and getting a good public har har har out of them. They're just the most public representatives of that style of playing. So they're the ones we have to publicly demonstrate against.
P.S. Some Goons seem to be nice people. I won't shame them by naming any names here. |
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Aidan Brooder
Dynasphere Ltd.
312
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Posted - 2013.07.05 15:05:00 -
[331] - Quote
Khergit Deserters wrote: Just speaking for myself here, but it has to be Goons first. The whole attitude of, "Hey check it out! we lied to this guy, made him trust us, and scammed him out of five years of work in EVE. And look, he's sad about it. Ha ha ha, check out the lovely tears!" Scam the guy-- fine, it's part of the game. But after you got the fat kid's lunch money, you don't have to publicly hold him down and let every other mean little punk laugh at him and spit on him.
For sure, Goons aren't the only players in EVE who enjoy harvesting tears and getting a good public har har har out of them. They're just the most publicized representatives of that style of playing, over the years. So they're the ones we have to publicly attack.
P.S. Some Goons seem to be nice people. I won't shame them by naming any names here.
They are just the loudest of the bunch.
And, yes, there are some nice Goons. I could sort them by their level of inactivity, but I won't. Blog: http://aidanbrooder.wordpress.com My EVE YouTube Vids (most recent): http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=T2alSWxXQbI
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1SEzNNYSlDE |
Kijo Rikki
Powder and Ball Alchemists Union The Predictables
447
|
Posted - 2013.07.05 15:11:00 -
[332] - Quote
Ok guys, it's been long enough. Time to break out the marauders and nocits and drop some SBU's and re-inforce VFK!
The screams of a thousand angry mission boats will not be silenced! |
Joepopo
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
52
|
Posted - 2013.07.05 15:17:00 -
[333] - Quote
Kijo Rikki wrote:Ok guys, it's been long enough. Time to break out the marauders and nocits and drop some SBU's and re-inforce VFK!
The screams of a thousand angry mission boats will not be silenced! Dropping SBU will get our attention for sure |
Kijo Rikki
Powder and Ball Alchemists Union The Predictables
449
|
Posted - 2013.07.05 15:20:00 -
[334] - Quote
Joepopo wrote:Kijo Rikki wrote:Ok guys, it's been long enough. Time to break out the marauders and nocits and drop some SBU's and re-inforce VFK!
The screams of a thousand angry mission boats will not be silenced! Dropping SBU will get our attention for sure
Shooting station services would probably do it too, which is a more realistic goal for a subcap fleet.
EDIT: Also, my vote for the alliance name is the Angry Bear Coalition, ticker obviously -ABC- |
Joepopo
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
52
|
Posted - 2013.07.05 15:24:00 -
[335] - Quote
Kijo Rikki wrote:Joepopo wrote:Kijo Rikki wrote:Ok guys, it's been long enough. Time to break out the marauders and nocits and drop some SBU's and re-inforce VFK!
The screams of a thousand angry mission boats will not be silenced! Dropping SBU will get our attention for sure Shooting station services would probably do it too, which is a more realistic goal for a subcap fleet. Less likely; A solo carrier can undock and repair; plus no one is in VFK now so the station is not used |
Aidan Brooder
Dynasphere Ltd.
312
|
Posted - 2013.07.05 15:39:00 -
[336] - Quote
Kijo Rikki wrote:[ EDIT: Also, my vote for the alliance name is the Angry Bear Coalition, ticker obviously -ABC-
Your suggestion will be taken into consideration.
I have my own favorites, but will not post them at this point... I guess when the time comes we'll either vote on it or just let Harry decide.
At the moment we just need more BEARS and also more BEARS!
Join Harry's movement for the fun of your lifetime! Blog: http://aidanbrooder.wordpress.com My EVE YouTube Vids (most recent): http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=T2alSWxXQbI http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1SEzNNYSlDE |
PopeUrban
El Expedicion
6
|
Posted - 2013.07.05 22:40:00 -
[337] - Quote
Aidan Brooder wrote:How much did you pay for your Joo Janta 200 Super-Chromatic Peril Sensitive Sunglasses?
Wow, who **** in your cereal, man. What exactly are you attempting to accomplish here? Are you discrediting my personal opinion as a representative of no one? Are you insinuating that I have a vested interest in the topic at hand outside of "**** blowing up increases demand"?
Or are you just **** waving in a safe direction because I don't have my finger on the "summon massive blob" button?
Spell it out for me because I'm too stupid to read between the lines here. |
PopeUrban
El Expedicion
6
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Posted - 2013.07.05 22:41:00 -
[338] - Quote
deleted double post, sorry :) |
Aidan Brooder
Dynasphere Ltd.
316
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Posted - 2013.07.06 01:55:00 -
[339] - Quote
PopeUrban wrote:Aidan Brooder wrote:How much did you pay for your Joo Janta 200 Super-Chromatic Peril Sensitive Sunglasses? Wow, who **** in your cereal, man. What exactly are you attempting to accomplish here? Are you discrediting my personal opinion as a representative of no one? Are you insinuating that I have a vested interest in the topic at hand outside of "**** blowing up increases demand"? Or are you just **** waving in a safe direction because I don't have my finger on the "summon massive blob" button? Spell it out for me because I'm too stupid to read between the lines here.
The sunglasses I was refering to are from a novel called "Hitchhiker to the Galaxy" by Douglas Adams. Which btw anyone should read, its just great.
Those sunglasses go solid black whenever their wearer looks at anything that could displease him.
Assuming that Burn Jita is not done with/for profit or that the war will in no way affect you is what made me assume you wear them.
Actually the Goons themselves posted financial results for burn Jita and their targets are selective, with some room they can burn for Lulz.
And if you don't realize how the outcome or just on-going fights of a major war affect you... I really want those glasses, too!
I might add that we make enough profit on our way to Mittanigrad to replace all ships & clones each time. Actually with quite a bit of a plus...
No offense meant, otherwise. Fly safe or whatever you do. Blog: http://aidanbrooder.wordpress.com My EVE YouTube Vids (most recent): http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=T2alSWxXQbI http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1SEzNNYSlDE |
Joepopo
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
53
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Posted - 2013.07.06 06:41:00 -
[340] - Quote
Aidan Brooder wrote:
I might add that we make enough profit on our way to Mittanigrad to replace all ships & clones each time. Actually with quite a bit of a plus...
No offense meant, otherwise. Fly safe or whatever you do.
You can belt rat in bomber if you tank it kin/thermal and hit kinetic.
Orbit at range and only kill battleships. These are worth up to 1 800 000 per rat.
Remember to fit a salvager too, pvp wrecks are salvageable and often contain valuable loot.
Capital ships are usually faction fitted |
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bloodknight2
Talledega Knights PLEASE NOT VIOLENCE OUR BOATS
112
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Posted - 2013.07.06 11:32:00 -
[341] - Quote
Joepopo wrote:
You can belt rat in bomber if you tank it kin/thermal and hit kinetic.
Orbit at range and only kill battleships. These are worth up to 1 800 000 per rat.
Remember to fit a salvager too, pvp wrecks are salvageable and often contain valuable loot.
Capital ships are usually faction fitted
You know, i really hate this kind of reply. It seems a lot of goonies think harry and everyone else following him are noobs who don't know anything about this game or are carebear who never left empire because they feared too much of losing their 17b faction fit BS. |
Obunagawe
158
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Posted - 2013.07.06 11:36:00 -
[342] - Quote
In EVE there is a reversal of the old saying "if you can't beat them, join them". |
Aidan Brooder
Dynasphere Ltd.
317
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Posted - 2013.07.06 12:19:00 -
[343] - Quote
Joepopo wrote:Aidan Brooder wrote:
I might add that we make enough profit on our way to Mittanigrad to replace all ships & clones each time. Actually with quite a bit of a plus...
No offense meant, otherwise. Fly safe or whatever you do.
You can belt rat in bomber if you tank it kin/thermal and hit kinetic. Orbit at range and only kill battleships. These are worth up to 1 800 000 per rat. Remember to fit a salvager too, pvp wrecks are salvageable and often contain valuable loot. Capital ships are usually faction fitted
I did think about it, even though it is tedious to start with.
The major downside resides in our currently very limited logistics & supply line. Ammo is limited and the next systems to easily re-stock are a dozen jumps away. If that weren't the case I'd certainly throw around more bombs.
Rats take a good many more hits to take down than the usual "war targets" we get. Refitting for tank & salvage would ruin the current fitting, and once again, we cannot easily dock and refit anywhere.
Logistics is really one of the more frustrating aspects of the operation, as the cure is relatively simple: More bears.
But, well, some people seem very eager to join but are still training for the minimum cloaking requirements. Once that is accomplished, we can tackle that problem... Hard to fly a crane and a SB at the same time. Blog: http://aidanbrooder.wordpress.com My EVE YouTube Vids (most recent): http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=T2alSWxXQbI http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1SEzNNYSlDE |
Aidan Brooder
Dynasphere Ltd.
317
|
Posted - 2013.07.06 12:39:00 -
[344] - Quote
bloodknight2 wrote:Joepopo wrote:
You can belt rat in bomber if you tank it kin/thermal and hit kinetic.
Orbit at range and only kill battleships. These are worth up to 1 800 000 per rat.
Remember to fit a salvager too, pvp wrecks are salvageable and often contain valuable loot.
Capital ships are usually faction fitted
You know, i really hate this kind of reply. It seems a lot of goonies think harry and everyone else following him are noobs who don't know anything about this game or are carebear who never left empire because they feared too much of losing their 17b faction fit BS.
I think the major problem a Goon faces is to imagine how it is to not be in that giant safety net. Or to imagine that any way of EVE life except for being in a giant Alliance is worthwhile.
And before that comes up later: I never owned a 17B faction fit BS. A T2 Cerberus fit does it just fine and faster if I feel like soloing level IV missions, which mostly is boring as hell.
I do know some people in HS though who luv that kind of pimp ship to be fair. (More around 3-4B or so mostly and usually the fits are quite funny... Faction Ballistic Control system paired with CPU/Power ups, because they lack the core skills to do a real fitting...) But those are a minority, really, as far as I can tell. Blog: http://aidanbrooder.wordpress.com My EVE YouTube Vids (most recent): http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=T2alSWxXQbI http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1SEzNNYSlDE |
Herzog Wolfhammer
Sigma Special Tactics Group
2990
|
Posted - 2013.07.06 21:10:00 -
[345] - Quote
PopeUrban wrote:Joepopo wrote:PopeUrban wrote:This is pretty popcorn worthy. Why don't you guys formalize an alliance and call it like "Nullsec Liberation Front" or something. I'd imagine that the massive potential industrial supply chain could create a suicide blob for the ages, which, if you think about it, would be hilariously ironic when pointed at goonfleet.
Also, why limit yourselves to picking on the goons specifically? There's a whole amazing ecosystem to explode out there.
This is more fun news than "Yep, still fighting over moons" at any rate. They attack us because we care about them, bringing nullsec love to their sweet jita once in a while. Edit: In fact I don t really know who they attack. We are currently in B-D. Right, which is why I'm not getting it. I mean I understand being pissed at burn jita and wanting to funnel that agression, but I'm of a mind that people should either **** or get off the pot. Personally I don't care. There's no profit in suiciding in goon space for me (or taking the time to fly there) There's nothing there I want or care about, and the whole war is this ancillary nonfactor in my day to day EVE life. Profit doesn't motivate the decisions of everyone though. It certainly didn't motivate the burn jita event and it doesn't motivate this carebear revolt either. I just... IDK... I never thought about it before but what if all those empire crazy multibox industrial titans actually decided to fund a war effort, and got a bunch of those can flippers, mission runners, and various other hisec combat pilots to fly the boats. It seems like I could make a bunch more money off of that. So people should do it.
Nobody is angry at anything. We don't even hate the goons.
As for an alliance, fighting a large power with another large power does not fit in the paradigms of asymmetric warfare. Thus the moment a large alliance is built, it will be decced, and it becomes the same old story.
The "alliance" already exists anyway. It has thousands of pilots, many stations, countless production slots, and as much ISK as all of the tech moons in nullsec.
That alliance is called "highsec".
I could wax poetic on this topic and bang out a description of the endeavor that even Joepopo has a chance of understanding, but my truck needs a new clutch master cylinder at the moment. |
Joepopo
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
54
|
Posted - 2013.07.07 07:37:00 -
[346] - Quote
Herzog Wolfhammer wrote:
We don't even hate the goons.
Thus the moment a large alliance is built, it will be decced, and it becomes the same old story.
.
Test alliance please ignore: 12487 characters Goonswarm federation: 8806.
http://evemaps.dotlan.net/alliance/memberCount
Tell me again you are against the large alliance and that this is not personnal against goon,please. |
PopeUrban
El Expedicion
7
|
Posted - 2013.07.07 07:38:00 -
[347] - Quote
Herzog Wolfhammer wrote:Nobody is angry at anything. We don't even hate the goons.
As for an alliance, fighting a large power with another large power does not fit in the paradigms of asymmetric warfare. Thus the moment a large alliance is built, it will be decced, and it becomes the same old story.
The "alliance" already exists anyway. It has thousands of pilots, many stations, countless production slots, and as much ISK as all of the tech moons in nullsec.
That alliance is called "highsec".
I could wax poetic on this topic and bang out a description of the endeavor that even Joepopo has a chance of understanding, but my truck needs a new clutch master cylinder at the moment.
Not "angry" and "hate" in a literal sense. More of an "angry" in an EVE-Revenge context. Had the goons not struck a nerve, they wouldn't be first on the list. That nerve doesn't have to be literally can't-sleep-at-night and think-about-it-at-your-job emotional, but it looks a lot to me like "Yeah! **** those guys! Let's make a statement!" more than "these guys threaten our way of life so let's get them" that creates null bloc wars.
You know, like moon goo magically moving around creates a situation like fountain.
This case seems like an excuse to go punt goons because goons do stuff that makes your lives inconvenient. That's an emotional context. You know what you're doing won't STOP them from passing out free burn jita 2.0 fleets (or hey, burn jita 3.0!) to anyone that wants them for teh lulz. You know you're spending resources for something that can't possibly end in gain of any sort other than emotional.
Again, this isn't a BAD thing.
****, embrace it. Goons are only sucessful because A: there are a fuckton of them B: they have an extreme nationalistic pride that transcends rationality
This movement has the potential of capturing both of those qualities from the opposite end of the spectrum.
Don't DENY that your'e all pissed and want revenge. Embrace it. Shout it from the hills. Make it a rallying cry. That's what's getting your pilots out of empire in the first place and that's what's going to pull more. That's what's going to convince the guy with the 10 box 23/7 hisec starship production operation to donate or discount some hardware.
Success is a measure of meeting goals. First, you gotta have goals. If the goal is REVENGE then you succeed with every single thing you blow up. |
PopeUrban
El Expedicion
7
|
Posted - 2013.07.07 07:39:00 -
[348] - Quote
double post again :P |
Herzog Wolfhammer
Sigma Special Tactics Group
2991
|
Posted - 2013.07.07 07:42:00 -
[349] - Quote
Joepopo wrote:Herzog Wolfhammer wrote:
We don't even hate the goons.
Thus the moment a large alliance is built, it will be decced, and it becomes the same old story.
.
Test alliance please ignore: 12487 characters Goonswarm federation: 8806. http://evemaps.dotlan.net/alliance/memberCountTell me again you are against the large alliance and that this is not personnal against goon,please.
OK I'll tell you again.
We are against a large alliance and it's not personal against the goons.
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Mallak Azaria
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
3282
|
Posted - 2013.07.07 09:11:00 -
[350] - Quote
PopeUrban wrote:****, embrace it. Goons are only sucessful because A: there are a fuckton of them B: they have an extreme nationalistic pride that transcends rationality
You forgot C: We have a lot of really intelligent people that make everything work. The guy who was sitting next to me in the first nullsec round table who had obviously not had a shower since before boarding his flight to Iceland, you really stank. You know who you are. |
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Scatim Helicon
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
2003
|
Posted - 2013.07.07 10:13:00 -
[351] - Quote
Mallak Azaria wrote:PopeUrban wrote:****, embrace it. Goons are only sucessful because A: there are a fuckton of them B: they have an extreme nationalistic pride that transcends rationality You forgot C: We have a lot of really intelligent people that make everything work.
Obvious lie, everyone knows that all goons are nothing but mindless F1 mashing drone blobbers Titans were never meant to be "cost effective", its a huge ****.-á- CCP Oveur, 2006
~If you want a picture of the future of WiS, imagine a spaceship, stamping on an avatar's face. Forever. |
Obunagawe
162
|
Posted - 2013.07.07 10:20:00 -
[352] - Quote
Mallak Azaria wrote:PopeUrban wrote:****, embrace it. Goons are only sucessful because A: there are a fuckton of them B: they have an extreme nationalistic pride that transcends rationality You forgot C: We have a lot of really intelligent people that make everything work.
So basically goonswarm is a fascist dictatorship! |
Sergeant Acht Scultz
School of Applied Knowledge Caldari State
946
|
Posted - 2013.07.07 10:22:00 -
[353] - Quote
Obunagawe wrote:Mallak Azaria wrote:PopeUrban wrote:****, embrace it. Goons are only sucessful because A: there are a fuckton of them B: they have an extreme nationalistic pride that transcends rationality You forgot C: We have a lot of really intelligent people that make everything work. So basically goonswarm is a fascist dictatorship!
Best trolling post these last 2 pages.
10/10 !
*removed inappropriate ASCII art signature* - CCP Eterne |
Harry Forever
SpaceJunkys
215
|
Posted - 2013.07.07 11:37:00 -
[354] - Quote
I want every high sec carebear to place a cloaked alt in VFK, I want it to be a tradition to go try shoot a goon after a long mining day... I want to see hundred ships there, day and night
I want this place sieged... we do this because you are begging for it
this locust swarm without head and leader will graze in your system
this is highsecs dreadful bane, a plague coming over you OMG! the asteroid is depleted! |
Joepopo
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
54
|
Posted - 2013.07.07 12:09:00 -
[355] - Quote
Harry Forever wrote:I want every high sec carebear to place a cloaked alt in VFK, I want it to be a tradition to go try shoot a goon after a long mining day...
Empire mining lords be like "Why waste time on losing shipe to goon when I can mine a little more instead?" |
Joepopo
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
62
|
Posted - 2013.07.07 13:44:00 -
[356] - Quote
Joepopo wrote:Harry Forever wrote:I want every high sec carebear to place a cloaked alt in VFK, I want it to be a tradition to go try shoot a goon after a long mining day...
Empire mining lords be like "Why waste time on losing ships to goon when I can mine a little more instead?"
While VFK was under siege, 06/07/2013, we made a video: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mfdiAyq9mUY |
PopeUrban
El Expedicion
14
|
Posted - 2013.07.07 13:53:00 -
[357] - Quote
Mallak Azaria wrote:PopeUrban wrote:****, embrace it. Goons are only sucessful because A: there are a fuckton of them B: they have an extreme nationalistic pride that transcends rationality You forgot C: We have a lot of really intelligent people that make everything work.
IMO that's just the law of averages at work, and it only works because of the wholehearted willingness of the proles to tow your party line and do whatever **** job needs done without complaint for the good of your nation.
I doubt there's a higher per capita of smart people good at spreadsheets and math in goons than anywhere else.
There was a time when I'd have said your intelligence agency was a cut above, but honestly, serious spying is dead in EVE because you succeeded yourselves right out of work. |
Alavaria Fera
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
3832
|
Posted - 2013.07.07 17:21:00 -
[358] - Quote
Joepopo wrote:Joepopo wrote:Harry Forever wrote:I want every high sec carebear to place a cloaked alt in VFK, I want it to be a tradition to go try shoot a goon after a long mining day... Empire mining lords be like "Why waste time on losing ships to goon when I can mine a little more instead?" While VFK was under siege, 06/07/2013, we made a video: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mfdiAyq9mUY Nice video. There are no goons. The goons' 0.0 dream is over. TEST Defence, Please Ignore
Projecting regards and power all over your space. http://wiki.eveonline.com/en/wiki/%27Regard%27_I_Power_Projector |
Harry Forever
SpaceJunkys
298
|
Posted - 2013.07.07 19:38:00 -
[359] - Quote
news from the front
we are now officially against TEST as well... just was in VFK and had a 5 goon killstreak when a test fleet showed up... as I did have a bubble in cargo I told them they should fleet me up and I can place it infront of the station, they did, however as soon as I uncloaked they dropped the fleet and engaged, my ship was able to escape however
this is so rediculous, they prefer to shoot down one catalyst instead of having a bubble infront of mittanigrad, it would have been perfect, ca 10-20 ships all sieged up... those people... I honestly think the space vacuum does no good to their brains OMG! the asteroid is depleted! |
Elizabeth Aideron
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
64
|
Posted - 2013.07.07 19:45:00 -
[360] - Quote
Harry Forever wrote:news from the front
we are now officially against TEST as well... just was in VFK and had a 5 goon killstreak when a test fleet showed up... as I did have a bubble in cargo I told them they should fleet me up and I can place it infront of the station, they did, however as soon as I uncloaked they dropped the fleet and engaged, my ship was able to escape however
this is so rediculous, they prefer to shoot down one catalyst instead of having a bubble infront of mittanigrad, it would have been perfect, ca 10-20 ships all sieged up... those people... I honestly think the space vacuum does no good to their brains
are you going to start killing their cynos now? |
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Harry Forever
SpaceJunkys
298
|
Posted - 2013.07.07 19:49:00 -
[361] - Quote
Elizabeth Aideron wrote:Harry Forever wrote:news from the front
we are now officially against TEST as well... just was in VFK and had a 5 goon killstreak when a test fleet showed up... as I did have a bubble in cargo I told them they should fleet me up and I can place it infront of the station, they did, however as soon as I uncloaked they dropped the fleet and engaged, my ship was able to escape however
this is so rediculous, they prefer to shoot down one catalyst instead of having a bubble infront of mittanigrad, it would have been perfect, ca 10-20 ships all sieged up... those people... I honestly think the space vacuum does no good to their brains are you going to start killing their cynos now?
I'm just warming up OMG! the asteroid is depleted! |
Harry Forever
SpaceJunkys
298
|
Posted - 2013.07.07 21:25:00 -
[362] - Quote
Alavaria Fera wrote:Joepopo wrote:Joepopo wrote:Harry Forever wrote:I want every high sec carebear to place a cloaked alt in VFK, I want it to be a tradition to go try shoot a goon after a long mining day... Empire mining lords be like "Why waste time on losing ships to goon when I can mine a little more instead?" While VFK was under siege, 06/07/2013, we made a video: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mfdiAyq9mUY Nice video.
here you have one from today http://youtu.be/6dfQMkH1Id8
sorry for the 6 goons I had to bring down to create the footage OMG! the asteroid is depleted! |
Joepopo
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
62
|
Posted - 2013.07.07 22:22:00 -
[363] - Quote
Nice!
If you align a celestial before warping to that same celestial, you will warp out instantly. |
Herzog Wolfhammer
Sigma Special Tactics Group
3015
|
Posted - 2013.07.08 00:35:00 -
[364] - Quote
That's awesome Harry. We should make this a recruitment video for noobs to show them that is can be done. |
Rhivre
TarNec Invisible Exchequer
308
|
Posted - 2013.07.08 00:38:00 -
[365] - Quote
"Hi, this is how you shoot an industrial at a customs office. Congrats, you now have reached the level of high sec ganker, but without concord, well done" |
Alavaria Fera
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
3832
|
Posted - 2013.07.08 04:22:00 -
[366] - Quote
They deserved it for undocking like morons.
Good job. There are no goons. The goons' 0.0 dream is over. TEST Defence, Please Ignore
Projecting regards and power all over your space. http://wiki.eveonline.com/en/wiki/%27Regard%27_I_Power_Projector |
Joepopo
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
62
|
Posted - 2013.07.08 04:47:00 -
[367] - Quote
Alavaria Fera wrote:They deserved it for undocking like morons.
Good job.
We need a newbee training to teach people the docking button is not F1. |
Zanzil C
Ministry of War Amarr Empire
4
|
Posted - 2013.07.08 06:08:00 -
[368] - Quote
HARRY +£BER ALLES |
Aidan Brooder
Dynasphere Ltd.
327
|
Posted - 2013.07.08 11:06:00 -
[369] - Quote
in answer to: PopeUrban
Quote:This case seems like an excuse to go punt goons because goons do stuff that makes your lives inconvenient. That's an emotional context. You know what you're doing won't STOP them from passing out free burn jita 2.0 fleets (or hey, burn jita 3.0!) to anyone that wants them for teh lulz. You know you're spending resources for something that can't possibly end in gain of any sort other than emotional.
Again, this isn't a BAD thing.
I cannot remember that Goons did do anything directly bad to us... And that, once again is the truth. We often profited from their actions instead, because we speculated on many of the same things they did.
Perhaps view it in this context instead: Assume you create a group of vigilantes or - from their perspective - terrorists that fight for a specific idea.
If you look for new members for said group, you shoot the loudest, best known bullies first. Which happen to be Goons, because their whole propaganda system is excellent and they have this large number of forum bears.
They are not very much different from the rest of the large Alliances that close their borders to everyone else otherwise.
Quote: That's what's going to convince the guy with the 10 box 23/7 hisec starship production operation to donate or discount some hardware.
Success is a measure of meeting goals. First, you gotta have goals. If the goal is REVENGE then you succeed with every single thing you blow up.
Of course if people join us that really hate Goons for whatever reason, why not? Different reasons can lead/feed into the same cause. I know Harry hates the finger-pointing they do. Blog: http://aidanbrooder.wordpress.com My EVE YouTube Vids (most recent): http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=T2alSWxXQbI
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1SEzNNYSlDE |
Sergeant Acht Scultz
School of Applied Knowledge Caldari State
952
|
Posted - 2013.07.08 11:13:00 -
[370] - Quote
Harry Forever wrote:Alavaria Fera wrote:Joepopo wrote:Joepopo wrote:Harry Forever wrote:I want every high sec carebear to place a cloaked alt in VFK, I want it to be a tradition to go try shoot a goon after a long mining day... Empire mining lords be like "Why waste time on losing ships to goon when I can mine a little more instead?" While VFK was under siege, 06/07/2013, we made a video: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mfdiAyq9mUY Nice video. here you have one from today http://youtu.be/6dfQMkH1Id8sorry for the 6 goons I had to bring down to create the footage
Self created content, this is exactly what Eve is about, you're doing right. Guess who's doing it wrong? *removed inappropriate ASCII art signature* - CCP Eterne |
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Aidan Brooder
Dynasphere Ltd.
327
|
Posted - 2013.07.08 11:28:00 -
[371] - Quote
Sergeant Acht Scultz wrote:Self created content, this is exactly what Eve is about, you're doing right. Guess who's doing it wrong?
Not to mention it is also immense fun... Anything fun can't be wrong in a game. Blog: http://aidanbrooder.wordpress.com My EVE YouTube Vids (most recent): http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=T2alSWxXQbI
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1SEzNNYSlDE |
Joepopo
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
62
|
Posted - 2013.07.08 13:31:00 -
[372] - Quote
Aidan Brooder wrote: Not to mention it is also immense fun... Anything fun can't be wrong in a game.
Having a highsec miner lay a guilt trip after we gank his barge, pointing it out at fanfest and losing CSM chairmanship because of that was immense fun :3 |
Joepopo
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
62
|
Posted - 2013.07.08 13:32:00 -
[373] - Quote
. |
Ace Uoweme
Republic Military School Minmatar Republic
388
|
Posted - 2013.07.08 13:33:00 -
[374] - Quote
Joepopo wrote:Aidan Brooder wrote: Not to mention it is also immense fun... Anything fun can't be wrong in a game.
Having a highsec miner laying a guilt trip, pointing it out at fanfest and losing CSM for that was awesome fun :3
More fun, miners got 3 newer shiny ships that actually resembles mining ships...and no more need for jet canning in high-sec.
So things balance themselves out: cause and effect. "In a world of universal deceit, telling the truth is a revolutionary act." ~George Orwell
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Aidan Brooder
Dynasphere Ltd.
328
|
Posted - 2013.07.08 13:45:00 -
[375] - Quote
Joepopo wrote:Aidan Brooder wrote: Not to mention it is also immense fun... Anything fun can't be wrong in a game.
Having a highsec miner lay a guilt trip after we gank his barge, pointing it out at fanfest and losing CSM chairmanship because of that was immense fun :3
"In a game"... Pointing and laughing about someone in front of thousands of other players at a live event is not fun, unless you're drunk on J+ñgermeister & also have the mentality of a ten year old. Blog: http://aidanbrooder.wordpress.com My EVE YouTube Vids (most recent): http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=T2alSWxXQbI
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1SEzNNYSlDE |
Joepopo
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
62
|
Posted - 2013.07.08 13:50:00 -
[376] - Quote
Aidan Brooder wrote:[quote=Joepopo]
"In a game"... Pointing and laughing about someone in front of thousands of other players at a live event is not fun, unless you're drunk on J+ñgermeister & also have the mentality of a ten year old.
Stupid #3,you have just been trolled. Please find yourself to the exit. |
Ace Uoweme
Republic Military School Minmatar Republic
388
|
Posted - 2013.07.08 13:54:00 -
[377] - Quote
Aidan Brooder wrote:"In a game"[/b]... Pointing and laughing about someone in front of thousands of other players at a live event is not fun, unless you're drunk on J+ñgermeister & also have the mentality of a ten year old.
Oh, they did that at the Blizzcon years back (red shirt guy). Found out he had Aspers, and yeah, it's no wonder why such insults comes from anons. In RL, they'd be ashamed of themselves, if others wouldn't shame them first. "In a world of universal deceit, telling the truth is a revolutionary act." ~George Orwell
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Aidan Brooder
Dynasphere Ltd.
328
|
Posted - 2013.07.08 13:58:00 -
[378] - Quote
Joepopo wrote:Aidan Brooder wrote:[quote=Joepopo]
"In a game"... Pointing and laughing about someone in front of thousands of other players at a live event is not fun, unless you're drunk on J+ñgermeister & also have the mentality of a ten year old. Stupid #3,you have just been trolled. Please find yourself to the exit.
Only in your world... In my world you told the truth like the brave lil pony you truly are.
I still remember the fanfest scene & the forum reactions... There are some with an under-standing of "fun" that exceeds the boundaries of this game. I don't say they are only to be found in your alliance. Almost everyone laughed. Although some probably smirked at a stumbling drunk, while starting to write on the forums.
It's against my personal believe in spaceship-bushido... Keep the smack talk in game or - if necessary - on the forums to a degree..
Anything beyond that is... just childish. And should also be fought.
Blog: http://aidanbrooder.wordpress.com My EVE YouTube Vids (most recent): http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=T2alSWxXQbI
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1SEzNNYSlDE |
Thugnificent Gangstalicio
Nigerian Drug Manufactory co. xXPlease Pandemic Citizens Reloaded Alliance.Xx
12
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Posted - 2013.07.08 14:46:00 -
[379] - Quote
Harry Forever! Help im tackled in VFK top belt please. |
Magnus Orly
Fula Gamla Gubbar
0
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Posted - 2013.07.08 15:44:00 -
[380] - Quote
The best way to tackle gankers is to ignore them like the insecure kids they are... |
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Elizabeth Aideron
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
67
|
Posted - 2013.07.08 15:46:00 -
[381] - Quote
Magnus Orly wrote:The best way to tackle gankers is to ignore them like the insecure kids they are...
that didn't help save your retriever |
Harry Forever
SpaceJunkys
306
|
Posted - 2013.07.08 17:37:00 -
[382] - Quote
check out the Goons Doomsday Event! first prize now is a frigging Tengu! Sponsored by Alt Shi!
https://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=posts&find=unread&t=255295 OMG! the asteroid is depleted! |
Joepopo
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
65
|
Posted - 2013.07.08 17:45:00 -
[383] - Quote
You keep forgeting another bonus tengu prize that I will donate to whoever score the first capship killmail :) |
Aidan Brooder
Dynasphere Ltd.
344
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Posted - 2013.07.09 01:00:00 -
[384] - Quote
Joepopo wrote:You keep forgeting another bonus tengu prize that I will donate to whoever score the first capship killmail :) July 28th in VFK, goons losses are your gains. Be there
I don't really need another Tengu, but will there be fireworks? Blog: http://aidanbrooder.wordpress.com My EVE YouTube Vids (most recent): http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=T2alSWxXQbI http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1SEzNNYSlDE |
Alavaria Fera
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
3837
|
Posted - 2013.07.09 06:12:00 -
[385] - Quote
Joepopo wrote:You keep forgeting another bonus tengu prize that I will donate to whoever score the first capship killmail :) July 28th in VFK, goons losses are your gains. Be there So.. it will go to Black Legion, some guy in a mach, with a bubble off the VFK station inline with the beacon? There are no goons. The goons' 0.0 dream is over. TEST Defence, Please Ignore
Projecting regards and power all over your space. http://wiki.eveonline.com/en/wiki/%27Regard%27_I_Power_Projector |
Joepopo
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
68
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Posted - 2013.07.09 06:23:00 -
[386] - Quote
Alavaria Fera wrote:Joepopo wrote:You keep forgeting another bonus tengu prize that I will donate to whoever score the first capship killmail :) July 28th in VFK, goons losses are your gains. Be there So.. it will go to Black Legion, some guy in a mach, with a bubble off the VFK station inline with the beacon?
bL has 1 sov and is not eligible for my prize.
A BL alt is OK. Harry must be on killmail (debatable because harry is a coward and won t engage unless cyno frig) |
Harry Forever
SpaceJunkys
311
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Posted - 2013.07.09 07:19:00 -
[387] - Quote
Joepopo wrote:Alavaria Fera wrote:Joepopo wrote:You keep forgeting another bonus tengu prize that I will donate to whoever score the first capship killmail :) July 28th in VFK, goons losses are your gains. Be there So.. it will go to Black Legion, some guy in a mach, with a bubble off the VFK station inline with the beacon? bL has 1 sov and is not eligible for my prize. A BL alt is OK. Harry must be on killmail (debatable because harry is a coward and won t engage unless cyno frig)
I only see one coward sitting in base all day... you know why you talk about us so much Joe? because you don't do anything interesting yourself... just spamming my threads like a maniac, saying the same things over and over again
please joe do us a favour and open up your own thread with things you do, maybe i take my time commenting on those as well
I doubt it, but you still can try, I encourage you to be yourself and not just talk about others... thanks OMG! the asteroid is depleted! |
Haramir Haleths
Nutella Bande
14
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Posted - 2013.07.09 10:56:00 -
[388] - Quote
Are you Ex Backdoor Cowboy or why do you want hitting them in the rear ? |
Alt Shi
School of Applied Knowledge Caldari State
9
|
Posted - 2013.07.09 13:46:00 -
[389] - Quote
Haramir Haleths wrote:Are you Ex Backdoor Cowboy or why do you want hitting them in the rear ?
Basic war tactics I would think. |
Ustrello
Amok. Goonswarm Federation
121
|
Posted - 2013.07.09 14:37:00 -
[390] - Quote
Most of the cfc is in fountain just a tip, you know besides killing cyno frigs |
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Joepopo
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
68
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Posted - 2013.07.09 14:43:00 -
[391] - Quote
Alt Shi wrote:Haramir Haleths wrote:Are you Ex Backdoor Cowboy or why do you want hitting them in the rear ? Basic war tactics I would think. The situation will get worse as we lose the last cyno ship in VFK....
this could turn the tide of the war |
Herzog Wolfhammer
Sigma Special Tactics Group
3036
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Posted - 2013.07.09 14:55:00 -
[392] - Quote
I can smell a sense of vulnerability from the goons here. But over what?
Must study this thread and past convos and think..... |
Alt Shi
School of Applied Knowledge Caldari State
10
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Posted - 2013.07.09 15:00:00 -
[393] - Quote
Joepopo wrote:Alt Shi wrote:Haramir Haleths wrote:Are you Ex Backdoor Cowboy or why do you want hitting them in the rear ? Basic war tactics I would think. The situation will get worse as we lose the last cyno ship in VFK.... this could turn the tide of the war
Your sarcasm reveals much. Do the Goons know you're projecting a palpable fear of carebears on the forums?
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Elizabeth Aideron
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
75
|
Posted - 2013.07.09 15:10:00 -
[394] - Quote
if the dudes in purifiers in vfk are part of this you should give lessons to harry |
Joepopo
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
68
|
Posted - 2013.07.09 15:14:00 -
[395] - Quote
Alt Shi wrote: Your sarcasm reveals much. Do the Goons know you're projecting a palpable fear of carebears on the forums?
I thought it was just the feeling that none of this makes sense.
What could i be affraid of? |
Aidan Brooder
Dynasphere Ltd.
352
|
Posted - 2013.07.09 15:23:00 -
[396] - Quote
Joepopo wrote:Alt Shi wrote: Your sarcasm reveals much. Do the Goons know you're projecting a palpable fear of carebears on the forums?
I thought it was just the feeling that none of this makes sense. What could i be affraid of? http://eve-kill.net/?a=kill_detail&kll_id=18678996This is nice!
Nice kill, indeed. Blog: http://aidanbrooder.wordpress.com My EVE YouTube Vids (most recent): http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=T2alSWxXQbI http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1SEzNNYSlDE |
Alt Shi
School of Applied Knowledge Caldari State
10
|
Posted - 2013.07.09 15:26:00 -
[397] - Quote
Joepopo wrote:Alt Shi wrote: Your sarcasm reveals much. Do the Goons know you're projecting a palpable fear of carebears on the forums?
I thought it was just the feeling that none of this makes sense. What could i be affraid of? http://eve-kill.net/?a=kill_detail&kll_id=18678996This is nice!
Propaganda 101: Label the enemy as weak and their cause as futile to dishearten those who would fight.
It's having the reverse effect on us. |
Aidan Brooder
Dynasphere Ltd.
353
|
Posted - 2013.07.09 15:30:00 -
[398] - Quote
Alt Shi wrote:Joepopo wrote:Alt Shi wrote: Your sarcasm reveals much. Do the Goons know you're projecting a palpable fear of carebears on the forums?
I thought it was just the feeling that none of this makes sense. What could i be affraid of? http://eve-kill.net/?a=kill_detail&kll_id=18678996This is nice! Propaganda 101: Label the enemy as weak and their cause as futile to dishearten those who would fight. It's having the reverse effect on us.
You must forgive Joepopo... He never got past propaganda 101 before they gave him such great responsibilities as mass-fitting ships and from time to time move a transport. He presumably also wrote a program, that will point any Goon to the nearest toilet or something... Blog: http://aidanbrooder.wordpress.com My EVE YouTube Vids (most recent): http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=T2alSWxXQbI http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1SEzNNYSlDE |
Khergit Deserters
Crom's Angels
1311
|
Posted - 2013.07.09 15:34:00 -
[399] - Quote
Aidan Brooder wrote:Alt Shi wrote:Joepopo wrote:Alt Shi wrote: Your sarcasm reveals much. Do the Goons know you're projecting a palpable fear of carebears on the forums?
I thought it was just the feeling that none of this makes sense. What could i be affraid of? http://eve-kill.net/?a=kill_detail&kll_id=18678996This is nice! Propaganda 101: Label the enemy as weak and their cause as futile to dishearten those who would fight. It's having the reverse effect on us. You must forgive Joepopo... He never got past propaganda 101 before they gave him such great responsibilities as mass-fitting ships and from time to time move a transport. He presumably also wrote a program, that will point any Goon to the nearest toilet or something... Ha ha! No offense Joe, no hating on you. Just a good joke here by Aidan. |
Harry Forever
SpaceJunkys
315
|
Posted - 2013.07.09 16:57:00 -
[400] - Quote
Aidan Brooder wrote:Alt Shi wrote:Joepopo wrote:Alt Shi wrote: Your sarcasm reveals much. Do the Goons know you're projecting a palpable fear of carebears on the forums?
I thought it was just the feeling that none of this makes sense. What could i be affraid of? http://eve-kill.net/?a=kill_detail&kll_id=18678996This is nice! Propaganda 101: Label the enemy as weak and their cause as futile to dishearten those who would fight. It's having the reverse effect on us. You must forgive Joepopo... He never got past propaganda 101 before they gave him such great responsibilities as mass-fitting ships and from time to time move a transport. He presumably also wrote a program, that will point any Goon to the nearest toilet or something...
:DD nice one :D OMG! the asteroid is depleted! |
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Yarz Yassavi
Viziam Amarr Empire
2
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Posted - 2013.07.09 19:02:00 -
[401] - Quote
So I docked the Navy Battleship, switched clones, googled a cheap fit, and ran the Bubble into Null for the first time. Gate after Gate until VFK, Ride of the Valkyries looping in the background.
From mission-running to AFK cloaking in one easy step. Oh Yeah. |
Khergit Deserters
Crom's Angels
1314
|
Posted - 2013.07.09 20:02:00 -
[402] - Quote
Excellent, congrats Yarz! |
Herzog Wolfhammer
Sigma Special Tactics Group
3036
|
Posted - 2013.07.09 20:13:00 -
[403] - Quote
Yarz Yassavi wrote:So I docked the Navy Battleship, switched clones, googled a cheap fit, and ran the Bubble into Null for the first time. Gate after Gate until VFK, Ride of the Valkyries looping in the background.
From mission-running to AFK cloaking in one easy step. Oh Yeah.
Epic. My preferred suicide run theme song is a tie between "Brunnen G Fight Song" from Lexx (the Techno version) or "Hostage" from FLA.
Remember if there are any new players out there wanting to give this a try (short and simple: gun up and go!) we have amassed T1 Frigates for the taking.
Any industrialists or "rich vets" who want to help but lack the time to roam themselves, please contact Harry with any donations of ships or materials. If you ever lost a freighter to the goons, and you got say a few extra destroyers that didn't fit in the hold during your last Jita run, toss them over to Harry and you can sit back knowing you have, albeit indirectly, gotten revenge. Even paltry Ospreys are good. I have seen Harry's crew get a lot of mileage out of them. |
Harry Forever
SpaceJunkys
319
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Posted - 2013.07.10 07:45:00 -
[404] - Quote
making new friends
yesterday we teamed up with some russians, having an interpreter in our squad surely did help for that, convo was short and fleeting up not a big issue, and guess what, we did not even shoot eachother, seems some still understand how this game needs to be played...
another thing came to my mind when checking the russians killboard, beside bringing dow an obelisk in VFK on 2013-07-09 those guys like to shoot, now listen closely, yea cyno-ships while waiting :D
I'm sure thats something to thinkabout for all the smartass people telling me how to play OMG! the asteroid is depleted! |
Herzog Wolfhammer
Sigma Special Tactics Group
3040
|
Posted - 2013.07.10 16:57:00 -
[405] - Quote
Harry Forever wrote:making new friends yesterday we teamed up with some russians, having an interpreter in our squad surely did help for that, convo was short and fleeting up not a big issue, and guess what, we did not even shoot eachother, seems some still understand how this game needs to be played... another thing came to my mind when checking the russians killboard, beside bringing dow an obelisk in VFK on 2013-07-09 those guys like to shoot, now listen closely, yea cyno-ships while waiting :D I'm sure thats something to thinkabout for all the smartass people telling me how to play
Russians like to PVP. One thing I always found out about Russians is, they play the game well, and this is a PVP game, so either you will shoot at them, or shoot with them, but they are not afraid of losing or getting upset, nor upsetting anybody else.
In a game. Playing it, winning and losing and not caring because it's a game. Imagine that.
I have heard of people exploring WHs and making deals with Russians who were already there, and being left alone. Not gank then "ha ha BOOMHEADSHOT GOBACKTOWOWPHAG L0SER!". Of course I would never visit a Russian POS with a tengue in structure because, as I said, they like to play the game and in this game, taking advantage of someone being a bonehead is expected.
While you roam with Russians, I have an alt tangling with Russians at one of the gates on the way to VFK and I must say they are polite even when they pod you. And I am not even being 50 to 1 blobbed either. I'm getting 1v1 fights in nullsec. |
Laserak
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
46
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Posted - 2013.07.10 17:09:00 -
[406] - Quote
You do realize you could score hundreds of more kills by going to B-D in Cloud Ring? The only people in Deklein are carebears and the women and children in the rear with the gear.. jus sayin |
Herzog Wolfhammer
Sigma Special Tactics Group
3040
|
Posted - 2013.07.10 17:15:00 -
[407] - Quote
Laserak wrote:You do realize you could score hundreds of more kills by going to B-D in Cloud Ring? The only people in Deklein are carebears and the women and children in the rear with the gear.. jus sayin
We'll send some stealth bombers and check on that thanks. |
AnikoDan
Brutor Tribe Minmatar Republic
10
|
Posted - 2013.07.10 17:19:00 -
[408] - Quote
Nice event :) |
Khergit Deserters
Crom's Angels
1317
|
Posted - 2013.07.10 17:24:00 -
[409] - Quote
This is not an event-- it's perpetual guerilla warfare, to the end of time~! |
Harry Forever
SpaceJunkys
324
|
Posted - 2013.07.10 17:54:00 -
[410] - Quote
Laserak wrote:You do realize you could score hundreds of more kills by going to B-D in Cloud Ring? The only people in Deklein are carebears and the women and children in the rear with the gear.. jus sayin
for sure that would be fun, however I would need to charge a one time promotional fee of 500m
this package would include:
* lodging and traveling expenses for me and my friends * destruction of all cynoships in the area * expert troll sparring in local chat
let me know what you think. OMG! the asteroid is depleted! |
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Herzog Wolfhammer
Sigma Special Tactics Group
3041
|
Posted - 2013.07.10 18:33:00 -
[411] - Quote
Harry Forever wrote:Laserak wrote:You do realize you could score hundreds of more kills by going to B-D in Cloud Ring? The only people in Deklein are carebears and the women and children in the rear with the gear.. jus sayin for sure that would be fun, however I would need to charge a one time promotional fee of 500m this package would include: * lodging and traveling expenses for me and my friends * destruction of all cynoships in the area * expert troll sparring in local chat let me know what you think.
You forgot: we will need buckets to hold all those nullbear tears. |
mynnna
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
1309
|
Posted - 2013.07.10 19:01:00 -
[412] - Quote
Alt Shi wrote:Joepopo wrote:Alt Shi wrote: Your sarcasm reveals much. Do the Goons know you're projecting a palpable fear of carebears on the forums?
I thought it was just the feeling that none of this makes sense. What could i be affraid of? http://eve-kill.net/?a=kill_detail&kll_id=18678996This is nice! Propaganda 101: Label the enemy as weak and their cause as futile to dishearten those who would fight. It's having the reverse effect on us.
You are weak, but your cause is kind of cute. Member of the Goonswarm Economic Warfare Cabal |
Harry Forever
SpaceJunkys
327
|
Posted - 2013.07.10 19:16:00 -
[413] - Quote
mynnna wrote:Alt Shi wrote:Joepopo wrote:Alt Shi wrote: Your sarcasm reveals much. Do the Goons know you're projecting a palpable fear of carebears on the forums?
I thought it was just the feeling that none of this makes sense. What could i be affraid of? http://eve-kill.net/?a=kill_detail&kll_id=18678996This is nice! Propaganda 101: Label the enemy as weak and their cause as futile to dishearten those who would fight. It's having the reverse effect on us. You are weak, but your cause is kind of cute.
who is weak? those guys on the killboard have been in our fleet yesterday... wake up, I'm seriously worried you won't recognize your downfall OMG! the asteroid is depleted! |
Ace Uoweme
Republic Military School Minmatar Republic
398
|
Posted - 2013.07.10 19:26:00 -
[414] - Quote
mynnna wrote:You are weak, but your cause is kind of cute.
About as weak as the dude losing his Reverent ship, and crying about it.
Only 2 left now in the game.
Something to talk about long after the Goons are gone, and their CSM representatives. "In a world of universal deceit, telling the truth is a revolutionary act." ~George Orwell
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Alt Shi
School of Applied Knowledge Caldari State
16
|
Posted - 2013.07.10 19:40:00 -
[415] - Quote
mynnna wrote:Alt Shi wrote:
Propaganda 101: Label the enemy as weak and their cause as futile to dishearten those who would fight.
It's having the reverse effect on us.
You are weak, but your cause is kind of cute.
Same tune, different key.
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Miku Yumi
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
0
|
Posted - 2013.07.10 19:45:00 -
[416] - Quote
Ace Uoweme wrote:Something to talk about long after the Goons are gone, and their CSM representatives
wars may come and go but my soldiers stay eternal |
Harry Forever
SpaceJunkys
327
|
Posted - 2013.07.10 19:51:00 -
[417] - Quote
Miku Yumi wrote:Ace Uoweme wrote:Something to talk about long after the Goons are gone, and their CSM representatives wars may come and go but my soldiers stay eternal
eternal in flames OMG! the asteroid is depleted! |
Ace Uoweme
Republic Military School Minmatar Republic
399
|
Posted - 2013.07.10 20:28:00 -
[418] - Quote
Miku Yumi wrote:Ace Uoweme wrote:Something to talk about long after the Goons are gone, and their CSM representatives wars may come and go but my soldiers stay eternal
That ship lost will be the only memory the game will remember of the Goons in the end. Much more rare than a blob of thousands.
Folks were linking it in local all over EvE when it happened.
Not the war in null itself. "In a world of universal deceit, telling the truth is a revolutionary act." ~George Orwell
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Herzog Wolfhammer
Sigma Special Tactics Group
3042
|
Posted - 2013.07.10 20:35:00 -
[419] - Quote
mynnna wrote:Alt Shi wrote:Joepopo wrote:Alt Shi wrote: Your sarcasm reveals much. Do the Goons know you're projecting a palpable fear of carebears on the forums?
I thought it was just the feeling that none of this makes sense. What could i be affraid of? http://eve-kill.net/?a=kill_detail&kll_id=18678996This is nice! Propaganda 101: Label the enemy as weak and their cause as futile to dishearten those who would fight. It's having the reverse effect on us. You are weak, but your cause is kind of cute.
in the 1990s it was common for my countrymen to watch movies depicting the middle-eastern "terrorist" characters as buffoons and easy fodder for SEALs, mercenaries who were the cool trendy hero or main characters, and satellite-directed smart bombs.
I knew then there was going to be trouble for underestimating a determined and tough society. And they don't even have clones.
You treated highsec like Afghanistan, and you will reap the rewards for that.
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Joepopo
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
69
|
Posted - 2013.07.10 20:36:00 -
[420] - Quote
Ace Uoweme wrote:
That ship lost will be the only memory the game will remember of the Goons in the end. Much more rare than a blob of thousands.
Folks were linking it in local all over EvE when it happened.
Not the war in null itself.
What are you talking about? |
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Ace Uoweme
Republic Military School Minmatar Republic
403
|
Posted - 2013.07.10 21:06:00 -
[421] - Quote
Joepopo wrote:Ace Uoweme wrote:
That ship lost will be the only memory the game will remember of the Goons in the end. Much more rare than a blob of thousands.
Folks were linking it in local all over EvE when it happened.
Not the war in null itself.
What are you talking about?
Mitt didn't tell you about how the rank and file regards these blobs and their dramas?
If you think thousands are cheering you on, there's a rude wake up call for you guys.
Swifty in WoW has a larger following. Even TotalBiscuit and his crass self has a following that's larger. God, you even have MarkeeDragon in EvE (who also played WoW and was part of that Glider lawsuit). In the scheme of things, Mitt and the rest are but a blot on the timeline (Mitt who? That Mitt?).
Games go on, as players are individuals and put their money down to play the game. They'll careless about Goons or TEST (except for the chuckles of how the big blocks mess it up every so often).
Only entity there I'm following is BL, as those dudes are pro in a game full of ePeen wannabes, and got the stats to prove it.
http://www.black-legion.ca/killboard/?a=kill_detail&kll_id=42700
Damn, that's a sweet kill anyone would've wanted in on. +1 "In a world of universal deceit, telling the truth is a revolutionary act." ~George Orwell
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Joepopo
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
69
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Posted - 2013.07.10 22:12:00 -
[422] - Quote
Ace Uoweme wrote:If you think thousands are cheering you on, there's a rude wake up call for you guys. Swifty in WoW has a larger following. Even TotalBiscuit and his crass self has a following that's larger. God, you even have MarkeeDragon in EvE (who also played WoW and was part of that Glider lawsuit). In the scheme of things, Mitt and the rest are but a blot on the timeline (Mitt who? That Mitt?). Games go on, as players are individuals and put their money down to play the game. They'll careless about Goons or TEST (except for the chuckles of how the big blocks mess it up every so often). Only entity there I'm following is BL, as those dudes are pro in a game full of ePeen wannabes, and got the stats to prove it. http://www.black-legion.ca/killboard/?a=kill_detail&kll_id=42700Damn, that's a sweet kill anyone would've wanted in on. +1
I don't understand what the revenant loss has to do with harry and his team invading VFK. |
Ace Uoweme
Republic Military School Minmatar Republic
403
|
Posted - 2013.07.10 22:26:00 -
[423] - Quote
Joepopo wrote:I don't understand what the revenant loss has to do with harry and his team invading VFK.
Karma is a *****. "In a world of universal deceit, telling the truth is a revolutionary act." ~George Orwell
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Elizabeth Aideron
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
85
|
Posted - 2013.07.10 23:05:00 -
[424] - Quote
Ace Uoweme wrote:Joepopo wrote:I don't understand what the revenant loss has to do with harry and his team invading VFK. Karma is a *****.
what? |
Alavaria
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
11
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Posted - 2013.07.11 02:24:00 -
[425] - Quote
Elizabeth Aideron wrote:Ace Uoweme wrote:Joepopo wrote:I don't understand what the revenant loss has to do with harry and his team invading VFK. Karma is a *****. what? I didn't think "moron" would be censored, no need to self-censor. Loyalty is a virtue, participation brings reward. Join Siegefleet, shoot structure, click participation link.
My main is out of sub ... NO, STOP BEING POOR |
Gods Prophet
Viziam Amarr Empire
0
|
Posted - 2013.07.11 02:57:00 -
[426] - Quote
Today was a glorious day.
Admiring all that Harry has done I decided to make the run and take a peek at Mittanigrad myself. So I fitted out a dinkly little Executioner with more zoom zoom then pew pew. I mean, we arent fighting them in the normal way right? :)
The ride there was mostly peaceful, only a couple of sleepy dogs at the gate. Barely raised their snouts to sniff the air as another cat slinked by, jumped the fence, and was in their backyard. I skulked around a bit. Found a few spots I felt safe. Then decided to go look at where Mittens and his friends play.
Warped in, cloaked up. Like a cat pulling the darkness around itself I slinked closer on soft, padded feet. And there it was. Mittens basket is a busy place, lots of comings and goings. Cyno fields, ships of industry, ships of death.
And a rather odd thing...
A corpse floating a few kilometers off in space, right on their doorstep. Just sitting there. None of the many ships going about their rounds seemed to give it the slightest pause. I stared at it for a long time.
Desire grew in my heart.
I wanted it. I had to have it. I knew I had to steal this dead thing from their doorstep as sure as a cat will lay a dead bird on the steps in front of its home. So I waited until nobody was looking. I mean, they knew i was there. They just didnt know I was there.
It was on the other side of the station from this dark, slinky cat. So I warped to a belt to to get the angle right. Whipped around like a cat on shag and warped right back on top of the corpse. Holy crap, its in my hold. And Im away...
Where are the alarms, where are the klaxons? Where is the barking gaurd dog to let Mittens know that all is not well? That a thief has trodden on holy ground.
I let them know in local. I let them know I walked up to their house and stole a flower. I am elated with my theft and it fills me with joy.
Then I notice the corpse...
It horrible. Dressed up in womens clothes and painted to look like a prostitute. Nasty dirty things have been done to it and I berate the goons in local that their appetites are this foul. :) And then I notice the tattoo. I ask the goons who was sick enough to tatto "Mittani's Wormhole" on the corpses a$$ with a tattooed arrow pointing to its poor, abused bung. This was just wrong. And then I thought to myself (and local) is this required of goons? Do they all have this? One shudders to think this is the price of admission into Goondom.
So I wait around a bit. Finally decide I miss hearth and home and go to leave. I know it wont be easy. I know they are planning and waiting and wanting back what I stole. Like Golem in his cave they want their preciooouuuusssss back.
I all goes well for about 3 jumps. Then I find them. I jump into CCP and they are waiting. They will take it back with sharp knives and cruel fists. With only moments to avoid the circling drone boats I burn back to the gate. Im targated, Im hit with Hells fury a hundred time over....
and I jump...
appearing on the other side with only a third of my hull intact. No time to sing praises (to Bast, the god of cats) I warp away to a hidey hole to lick my wounds. I sit there in my ship with the smell of burning wiring and super heated metal in my nostrils. In the smokey haze intermittently lit by sparks I see the reason for this is still intact. My goon corpse. My beautiful goon corpse is still mine.
Im sitting here now in the system as I write this. Goons flit about looking for an invisible cat. They wont find me. I will get this dead goon home. I promise you that. :) |
Amnesiaa Haze
Sebiestor Tribe Minmatar Republic
42
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Posted - 2013.07.11 03:50:00 -
[427] - Quote
Gods Prophet wrote: Warped in, cloaked up. Like a cat pulling the darkness around itself I slinked closer on soft, padded feet. And there it was. Mittens basket is a busy place, lots of comings and goings. Cyno fields, ships of industry, ships of death.
And a rather odd thing...
A corpse floating a few kilometers off in space, right on their doorstep. Just sitting there. None of the many ships going about their rounds seemed to give it the slightest pause. I stared at it for a long time.
Desire grew in my heart.
I wanted it. I had to have it. I knew I had to steal this dead thing from their doorstep as sure as a cat will lay a dead bird on the steps in front of its home. So I waited until nobody was looking. I mean, they knew i was there. They just didnt know I was there.
YOU CRACK ME UP!!
These are the kinds of posts I think about when doing stuff I don't wanna do like sitting in the waiting area at the doctors... sometimes a light chuckle will escape and people look at me like.."wtf " .. then I have to bow my head in shame & embarrassment, if only they understood... |
Herzog Wolfhammer
Sigma Special Tactics Group
3049
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Posted - 2013.07.11 04:27:00 -
[428] - Quote
Gods Prophet wrote:Today was a glorious day.
Admiring all that Harry has done I decided to make the run and take a peek at Mittanigrad myself. So I fitted out a dinkly little Executioner
For our Amarrian friends joining the fight, there are 30 executioners in production right now. If they are in need of other Amarr ships, please let me know.
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Harry Forever
SpaceJunkys
328
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Posted - 2013.07.11 07:23:00 -
[429] - Quote
Herzog Wolfhammer wrote:Gods Prophet wrote:Today was a glorious day.
Admiring all that Harry has done I decided to make the run and take a peek at Mittanigrad myself. So I fitted out a dinkly little Executioner For our Amarrian friends joining the fight, there are 30 executioners in production right now. If they are in need of other Amarr ships, please let me know.
i think we got over 300 ships now available, we should start posting the link of this thread in local over the systems, I started yesterday in jita posting about the Goons Doomsday Event and fastly found one other guy supporting us with a prize for the event... doing this I hope we can find more people brave as Gods Prophet who join us in our runs and we finally can put all those ship to use OMG! the asteroid is depleted! |
Harry Forever
SpaceJunkys
328
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Posted - 2013.07.11 07:36:00 -
[430] - Quote
Gods Prophet wrote:Today was a glorious day.
Admiring all that Harry has done I decided to make the run and take a peek at Mittanigrad myself. So I fitted out a dinkly little Executioner with more zoom zoom then pew pew. I mean, we arent fighting them in the normal way right? :)
The ride there was mostly peaceful, only a couple of sleepy dogs at the gate. Barely raised their snouts to sniff the air as another cat slinked by, jumped the fence, and was in their backyard. I skulked around a bit. Found a few spots I felt safe. Then decided to go look at where Mittens and his friends play.
Warped in, cloaked up. Like a cat pulling the darkness around itself I slinked closer on soft, padded feet. And there it was. Mittens basket is a busy place, lots of comings and goings. Cyno fields, ships of industry, ships of death.
And a rather odd thing...
A corpse floating a few kilometers off in space, right on their doorstep. Just sitting there. None of the many ships going about their rounds seemed to give it the slightest pause. I stared at it for a long time.
Desire grew in my heart.
I wanted it. I had to have it. I knew I had to steal this dead thing from their doorstep as sure as a cat will lay a dead bird on the steps in front of its home. So I waited until nobody was looking. I mean, they knew i was there. They just didnt know I was there.
It was on the other side of the station from this dark, slinky cat. So I warped to a belt to to get the angle right. Whipped around like a cat on shag and warped right back on top of the corpse. Holy crap, its in my hold. And Im away...
Where are the alarms, where are the klaxons? Where is the barking gaurd dog to let Mittens know that all is not well? That a thief has trodden on holy ground.
I let them know in local. I let them know I walked up to their house and stole a flower. I am elated with my theft and it fills me with joy.
Then I notice the corpse...
It horrible. Dressed up in womens clothes and painted to look like a prostitute. Nasty dirty things have been done to it and I berate the goons in local that their appetites are this foul. :) And then I notice the tattoo. I ask the goons who was sick enough to tatto "Mittani's Wormhole" on the corpses a$$ with a tattooed arrow pointing to its poor, abused bung. This was just wrong. And then I thought to myself (and local) is this required of goons? Do they all have this? One shudders to think this is the price of admission into Goondom.
So I wait around a bit. Finally decide I miss hearth and home and go to leave. I know it wont be easy. I know they are planning and waiting and wanting back what I stole. Like Golem in his cave they want their preciooouuuusssss back.
I all goes well for about 3 jumps. Then I find them. I jump into CCP and they are waiting. They will take it back with sharp knives and cruel fists. With only moments to avoid the circling drone boats I burn back to the gate. Im targated, Im hit with Hells fury a hundred time over....
and I jump...
appearing on the other side with only a third of my hull intact. No time to sing praises (to Bast, the god of cats) I warp away to a hidey hole to lick my wounds. I sit there in my ship with the smell of burning wiring and super heated metal in my nostrils. In the smokey haze intermittently lit by sparks I see the reason for this is still intact. My goon corpse. My beautiful goon corpse is still mine.
Im sitting here now in the system as I write this. Goons flit about looking for an invisible cat. They wont find me. I will get this dead goon home. I promise you that. :)
this made me smile and reminded me of my first run to VFK as well, one light shining bright in a dark place, the fire of your afterburner like a shooting star blindening those infidel... a forerunner of many more ships to come, a glowing fireball on the sky, just a spot right now but soon crushing down on those lands with painful fury... OMG! the asteroid is depleted! |
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Joepopo
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
69
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Posted - 2013.07.11 10:01:00 -
[431] - Quote
I have been trying to understand for days now.
Herzog is a vet, his sole killmails are from sansha incursion events. He is that classic pubbie overlord, hating goonswarm for burn jita and just for being us. He has another alt in his corporation who tried to go to null sec last month and got killed at the moment he jumped in. Now he produces T1 frigates and destroyers for whatever this is in VFK... I would have hoped better for a 5 year vet.
GodProphet went to VFK in a cloaked ship, did not get killed in EC-P8R, nice. Then he looted a corpses that was flying there... well that's .. something. But I still don't see the point.
Harry plays himself as the harbinger of our destruction. For now he kills cyno frigates. I will expand on this. VFK is a system with a cyno beacon so there is no need for a ship with a cyno to jump in the system. The cyno beacon let's anyone jump on it. The problem is that the cyno beacon is located on a moon. The capship is weak during the time it align and warp to the station. The parade for this is using a cyno frig on the station. This way the capital ship jumps right on the station and if one ship dies, it will be the 1m ISK cyno instead of the 1B capital. In a way, cyno frigs are made to be killed. cyno alts are less than 900 000 SP and the cost of the frig is usually 10% of the cost of the fuel needed to jump anyway (a JF trip is about 30m). So yeah right now harry is killing this. That's something too.
I must add: Goonswarm is currently at war, staging in B-D. What business is left in VFK? I have no idea. It is quite obvious you're invading an empty place. What is the point?
From reading all your report and stories, it feels that it is all some kind of roleplay you're doing, playing stories in your heads, telling them to your friends. All this is a bit of fantasy, a bit of fiction, a bit of dream. I must admit I let myself to dream of wonderful tales too sometimes. People see a cyno kill, but you imagine it is much more. Maybe this is the butterfly flaps in VFK that would bring chaos and destruction in B-D. Maybe this one cyno you killed, jammed all our logistic, prevented stocks to be resupplied in Fountain, and eventually will cause our destruction.
Bad news is, it is not exactly what happens, you're just flapping your cute butterfly wings in VFK. I hope you make the difference between the stories you tell yourself and what really is going on. But at least I understand it better. |
Harry Forever
SpaceJunkys
328
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Posted - 2013.07.11 10:24:00 -
[432] - Quote
Joepopo wrote:I have been trying to understand for days now.
Herzog is a vet, his sole killmails are from sansha incursion events. He is that classic pubbie overlord, hating goonswarm for burn jita and just for being us. He has another alt in his corporation who tried to go to null sec last month and got killed at the moment he jumped in. Now he produces T1 frigates and destroyers for whatever this is in VFK... I would have hoped better for a 5 year vet.
GodProphet went to VFK in a cloaked ship, did not get killed in EC-P8R, nice. Then he looted a corpses that was flying there... well that's .. something. But I still don't see the point.
Harry plays himself as the harbinger of our destruction. For now he kills cyno frigates. I will expand on this. VFK is a system with a cyno beacon so there is no need for a ship with a cyno to jump in the system. The cyno beacon let's anyone jump on it. The problem is that the cyno beacon is located on a moon. The capship is weak during the time it align and warp to the station. The parade for this is using a cyno frig on the station. This way the capital ship jumps right on the station and if one ship dies, it will be the 1m ISK cyno instead of the 1B capital. In a way, cyno frigs are made to be killed. cyno alts are less than 900 000 SP and the cost of the frig is usually 10% of the cost of the fuel needed to jump anyway (a JF trip is about 30m). So yeah right now harry is killing this. That's something too.
I must add: Goonswarm is currently at war, staging in B-D. What business is left in VFK? I have no idea. It is quite obvious you're invading an empty place. What is the point?
From reading all your report and stories, it feels that it is all some kind of roleplay you're doing, playing stories in your heads, telling them to your friends. All this is a bit of fantasy, a bit of fiction, a bit of dream. I must admit I let myself to dream of wonderful tales too sometimes. People see a cyno kill, but you imagine it is much more. Maybe this is the butterfly flaps in VFK that would bring chaos and destruction in B-D. Maybe this one cyno you killed, jammed all our logistic, prevented stocks to be resupplied in Fountain, and eventually will cause our destruction.
Bad news is, it is not exactly what happens, you're just flapping your cute butterfly wings in VFK. I hope you make the difference between the stories you tell yourself and what really is going on. But at least I understand it better.
You know what I think, you are jealous, people are more interested in us killing cyno-ships and looting your corpses then your big war up there
Thats your main problem you locked out most of the playerbase from your fights, you always tell them they are not able to do anything because they are carebears
However we are different, we say you can do everything and thats why we prosper and you guys are dying, dying in the minds of thousands already, yea its a dream but reality soon will follow, every blown up cyno-ship every carebear looting corps will bring us closer to victory
You are a ship slowly going under...
OMG! the asteroid is depleted! |
Amnesiaa Haze
Sebiestor Tribe Minmatar Republic
46
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Posted - 2013.07.11 11:03:00 -
[433] - Quote
Harry Forever wrote:Joepopo wrote:I have been trying to understand for days now.
Herzog is a vet, his sole killmails are from sansha incursion events. He is that classic pubbie overlord, hating goonswarm for burn jita and just for being us. He has another alt in his corporation who tried to go to null sec last month and got killed at the moment he jumped in. Now he produces T1 frigates and destroyers for whatever this is in VFK... I would have hoped better for a 5 year vet.
GodProphet went to VFK in a cloaked ship, did not get killed in EC-P8R, nice. Then he looted a corpses that was flying there... well that's .. something. But I still don't see the point.
Harry plays himself as the harbinger of our destruction. For now he kills cyno frigates. I will expand on this. VFK is a system with a cyno beacon so there is no need for a ship with a cyno to jump in the system. The cyno beacon let's anyone jump on it. The problem is that the cyno beacon is located on a moon. The capship is weak during the time it align and warp to the station. The parade for this is using a cyno frig on the station. This way the capital ship jumps right on the station and if one ship dies, it will be the 1m ISK cyno instead of the 1B capital. In a way, cyno frigs are made to be killed. cyno alts are less than 900 000 SP and the cost of the frig is usually 10% of the cost of the fuel needed to jump anyway (a JF trip is about 30m). So yeah right now harry is killing this. That's something too.
I must add: Goonswarm is currently at war, staging in B-D. What business is left in VFK? I have no idea. It is quite obvious you're invading an empty place. What is the point?
From reading all your report and stories, it feels that it is all some kind of roleplay you're doing, playing stories in your heads, telling them to your friends. All this is a bit of fantasy, a bit of fiction, a bit of dream. I must admit I let myself to dream of wonderful tales too sometimes. People see a cyno kill, but you imagine it is much more. Maybe this is the butterfly flaps in VFK that would bring chaos and destruction in B-D. Maybe this one cyno you killed, jammed all our logistic, prevented stocks to be resupplied in Fountain, and eventually will cause our destruction.
Bad news is, it is not exactly what happens, you're just flapping your cute butterfly wings in VFK. I hope you make the difference between the stories you tell yourself and what really is going on. But at least I understand it better. You know what I think, you are jealous, people are more interested in us killing cyno-ships and looting your corpses then your big war up there. Thats your main problem you locked out most of the playerbase from your fights, you always tell them they are not able to do anything because they are carebears. However we are different, we say you can do everything and thats why we prosper and you guys are dying, dying in the minds of thousands already, yea its a dream but reality soon will follow, every blown up cyno-ship every carebear looting corps will bring us closer to victory. You are a ship slowly going under...
You are insane... it's funny how you actually think goons are being attentive to you, besides grunts entertaining you on the forum...
The Alliance is at war... it has no interest in you what so ever, if it did then you would have quit the game by now.
Never the less, your heroic stories telling the victories of invading empty systems are quite hilarious... please do continue to chase your dream. |
Harry Forever
SpaceJunkys
328
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Posted - 2013.07.11 11:21:00 -
[434] - Quote
Amnesiaa Haze wrote:Harry Forever wrote:Joepopo wrote:I have been trying to understand for days now.
Herzog is a vet, his sole killmails are from sansha incursion events. He is that classic pubbie overlord, hating goonswarm for burn jita and just for being us. He has another alt in his corporation who tried to go to null sec last month and got killed at the moment he jumped in. Now he produces T1 frigates and destroyers for whatever this is in VFK... I would have hoped better for a 5 year vet.
GodProphet went to VFK in a cloaked ship, did not get killed in EC-P8R, nice. Then he looted a corpses that was flying there... well that's .. something. But I still don't see the point.
Harry plays himself as the harbinger of our destruction. For now he kills cyno frigates. I will expand on this. VFK is a system with a cyno beacon so there is no need for a ship with a cyno to jump in the system. The cyno beacon let's anyone jump on it. The problem is that the cyno beacon is located on a moon. The capship is weak during the time it align and warp to the station. The parade for this is using a cyno frig on the station. This way the capital ship jumps right on the station and if one ship dies, it will be the 1m ISK cyno instead of the 1B capital. In a way, cyno frigs are made to be killed. cyno alts are less than 900 000 SP and the cost of the frig is usually 10% of the cost of the fuel needed to jump anyway (a JF trip is about 30m). So yeah right now harry is killing this. That's something too.
I must add: Goonswarm is currently at war, staging in B-D. What business is left in VFK? I have no idea. It is quite obvious you're invading an empty place. What is the point?
From reading all your report and stories, it feels that it is all some kind of roleplay you're doing, playing stories in your heads, telling them to your friends. All this is a bit of fantasy, a bit of fiction, a bit of dream. I must admit I let myself to dream of wonderful tales too sometimes. People see a cyno kill, but you imagine it is much more. Maybe this is the butterfly flaps in VFK that would bring chaos and destruction in B-D. Maybe this one cyno you killed, jammed all our logistic, prevented stocks to be resupplied in Fountain, and eventually will cause our destruction.
Bad news is, it is not exactly what happens, you're just flapping your cute butterfly wings in VFK. I hope you make the difference between the stories you tell yourself and what really is going on. But at least I understand it better. You know what I think, you are jealous, people are more interested in us killing cyno-ships and looting your corpses then your big war up there. Thats your main problem you locked out most of the playerbase from your fights, you always tell them they are not able to do anything because they are carebears. However we are different, we say you can do everything and thats why we prosper and you guys are dying, dying in the minds of thousands already, yea its a dream but reality soon will follow, every blown up cyno-ship every carebear looting corps will bring us closer to victory. You are a ship slowly going under... You are insane... it's funny how you actually think goons are being attentive to you, besides grunts entertaining you on the forum... The Alliance is at war... it has no interest in you what so ever, if it did then you would have quit the game by now. Never the less, your heroic stories telling the victories of invading empty systems are quite hilarious... please do continue to chase your dream.
you do not get it, I'm not talking about goons attention, I'm talking about the attention of the other players, the masses, the carebears who are more interested in our story then that unaccessible robotic bolobbing of ships in fountain area
here they can take part, the other stuff is just news they forget one day after
watch your tongue by the way OMG! the asteroid is depleted! |
symolan
BamBam Inc.
2
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Posted - 2013.07.11 11:44:00 -
[435] - Quote
Amnesiaa Haze wrote: The Alliance is at war... it has no interest in you what so ever, if it did then you would have quit the game by now.
if they had, Harry'd win. An individual gaining the attention of the mighty Goons... I mean....
If you happen to know Asterix & Obelix, where they have to proof they're gods and conquer Rome...it may be the same strategy here they use on the roman bureaucracy.
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Amnesiaa Haze
Sebiestor Tribe Minmatar Republic
46
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Posted - 2013.07.11 12:20:00 -
[436] - Quote
Harry Forever wrote:[quote=Amnesiaa Haze][quote=Harry Forever][quote=Joepopo]
watch your tongue by the way
Oh yeah, my bad...
I forgot..
You're an Elite PvP'er now.. and you have the POWAARRR to have my toons station camped by 1000's of tornados in jita 4-4... if I don't watch my tongue, that is.
Forgiveth me for I didn't intendeth to insulteth youeth.
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Harry Forever
SpaceJunkys
328
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Posted - 2013.07.11 12:24:00 -
[437] - Quote
Amnesiaa Haze wrote: bla bla...
blocked OMG! the asteroid is depleted! |
Ragnarok vs-Goons Ragnarok
State War Academy Caldari State
0
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Posted - 2013.07.11 12:28:00 -
[438] - Quote
If you relly hate the goons read may bio |
Alavaria
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
11
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Posted - 2013.07.11 12:28:00 -
[439] - Quote
Joepopo wrote:Harry plays himself as the harbinger of our destruction. Somehow I added a "with" in there.
No prize for guessing where. Loyalty is a virtue, participation brings reward. Join Siegefleet, shoot structure, click participation link.
My main is out of sub ... NO, STOP BEING POOR |
Harry Forever
SpaceJunkys
328
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Posted - 2013.07.11 12:37:00 -
[440] - Quote
Alavaria wrote:Joepopo wrote:Harry plays himself as the harbinger of our destruction. Somehow I added a "with" in there. No prize for guessing where.
your mind must have missmatched your habbits with mine OMG! the asteroid is depleted! |
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Alavaria
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
11
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Posted - 2013.07.11 12:42:00 -
[441] - Quote
Harry Forever wrote:Alavaria wrote:Joepopo wrote:Harry plays himself as the harbinger of our destruction. Somehow I added a "with" in there. No prize for guessing where. your mind must have missmatched your habbits with mine That can't be, I wouldn't go fuckgoons.
Wait, unless I'm actually a TEST SPY. Oh dear. I am a terrible poster ... Loyalty is a virtue, participation brings reward. Join Siegefleet, shoot structure, click participation link.
My main is out of sub ... NO, STOP BEING POOR |
Alavaria
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
11
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Posted - 2013.07.11 12:45:00 -
[442] - Quote
Joepopo wrote:I have been trying to understand for days now.
Herzog is a vet, his sole killmails are from sansha incursion events. He is that classic pubbie overlord, hating goonswarm for burn jita and just for being us. He has another alt in his corporation who tried to go to null sec last month and got killed at the moment he jumped in. Now he produces T1 frigates and destroyers for whatever this is in VFK... I would have hoped better for a 5 year vet.
GodProphet went to VFK in a cloaked ship, did not get killed in EC-P8R, nice. Then he looted a corpses that was flying there... well that's .. something. But I still don't see the point.
Harry plays himself as the harbinger of our destruction. For now he kills cyno frigates. I will expand on this. VFK is a system with a cyno beacon so there is no need for a ship with a cyno to jump in the system. The cyno beacon let's anyone jump on it. The problem is that the cyno beacon is located on a moon. The capship is weak during the time it align and warp to the station. The parade for this is using a cyno frig on the station. This way the capital ship jumps right on the station and if one ship dies, it will be the 1m ISK cyno instead of the 1B capital. In a way, cyno frigs are made to be killed. cyno alts are less than 900 000 SP and the cost of the frig is usually 10% of the cost of the fuel needed to jump anyway (a JF trip is about 30m). So yeah right now harry is killing this. That's something too.
I must add: Goonswarm is currently at war, staging in B-D. What business is left in VFK? I have no idea. It is quite obvious you're invading an empty place. What is the point?
From reading all your report and stories, it feels that it is all some kind of roleplay you're doing, playing stories in your heads, telling them to your friends. All this is a bit of fantasy, a bit of fiction, a bit of dream. I must admit I let myself to dream of wonderful tales too sometimes. People see a cyno kill, but you imagine it is much more. Maybe this is the butterfly flaps in VFK that would bring chaos and destruction in B-D. Maybe this one cyno you killed, jammed all our logistic, prevented stocks to be resupplied in Fountain, and eventually will cause our destruction.
Bad news is, it is not exactly what happens, you're just flapping your cute butterfly wings in VFK. I hope you make the difference between the stories you tell yourself and what really is going on. But at least I understand it better. One day he'll catch Boat drifting out of a POS in a titan and light a cyno for PL.
Then you'll see. Loyalty is a virtue, participation brings reward. Join Siegefleet, shoot structure, click participation link.
My main is out of sub ... NO, STOP BEING POOR |
Ace Uoweme
Republic Military School Minmatar Republic
407
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Posted - 2013.07.11 12:57:00 -
[443] - Quote
Alavaria wrote:Elizabeth Aideron wrote:Ace Uoweme wrote:Joepopo wrote:I don't understand what the revenant loss has to do with harry and his team invading VFK. Karma is a *****. what? I didn't think "moron" would be censored, no need to self-censor.
No, it's a word that means female dogs.
And karma is like that...what comes around, goes around.
Sandbox = individuals that matter. Not some Wal-Mart size blob directed by some literal Moonie. "In a world of universal deceit, telling the truth is a revolutionary act." ~George Orwell
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Alt Shi
School of Applied Knowledge Caldari State
17
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Posted - 2013.07.11 13:11:00 -
[444] - Quote
Joepopo wrote:
Bad news is, it is not exactly what happens, you're just flapping your cute butterfly wings in VFK. I hope you make the difference between the stories you tell yourself and what really is going on. But at least I understand it better.
Butterfly wings! How... poetic? Or something?
Butterfly wings flap the dust around you. When it clears, oh look(!) a Tengu!
Terrible, but so much better than yours.
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Elizabeth Aideron
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
87
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Posted - 2013.07.11 13:13:00 -
[445] - Quote
Ace Uoweme wrote:Alavaria wrote:Elizabeth Aideron wrote:Ace Uoweme wrote:Joepopo wrote:I don't understand what the revenant loss has to do with harry and his team invading VFK. Karma is a *****. what? I didn't think "moron" would be censored, no need to self-censor. No, it's a word that means female dogs. And karma is like that... what comes around, goes around. Sandbox = individuals that matter. Not some Wal-Mart size blob directed by some literal Moonie.
what does the revenant kill have to do with us getting what we deserve or whatever |
Ace Uoweme
Republic Military School Minmatar Republic
409
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Posted - 2013.07.11 13:20:00 -
[446] - Quote
Elizabeth Aideron wrote:what does the revenant kill have to do with us getting what we deserve or whatever
Why are you posting here? "In a world of universal deceit, telling the truth is a revolutionary act." ~George Orwell
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Alt Shi
School of Applied Knowledge Caldari State
17
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Posted - 2013.07.11 13:26:00 -
[447] - Quote
Ace Uoweme wrote:Elizabeth Aideron wrote:what does the revenant kill have to do with us getting what we deserve or whatever Why are you posting here?
The Goon propaganda team has to justify their positions somehow? |
Joepopo
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
69
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Posted - 2013.07.11 13:37:00 -
[448] - Quote
Alt Shi wrote:
Butterfly wings! How... poetic? Or something?
Check your classics http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oq2oxt7Nrxo
I hope for you to become better. my advice: camp the route from VFK to B-D |
Elizabeth Aideron
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
87
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Posted - 2013.07.11 13:39:00 -
[449] - Quote
Ace Uoweme wrote:Elizabeth Aideron wrote:what does the revenant kill have to do with us getting what we deserve or whatever Why are you posting here?
trying to make sense of your inane posts |
Harry Forever
SpaceJunkys
328
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Posted - 2013.07.11 13:49:00 -
[450] - Quote
we are fine with your haulers and cyno-ships for now, no need for different routes
got over 20 kills the last week or something, its fun, goons are screaming, all better than expected
just a few more days and bombs will crush into those mittanigrad walls, I already put an eye on some of your noctis
just relax and all will be fine OMG! the asteroid is depleted! |
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Alt Shi
School of Applied Knowledge Caldari State
17
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Posted - 2013.07.11 13:51:00 -
[451] - Quote
"Classic"?? Wow. I don't know what to say to that.
Goon tears flow, blow snot into a tissue. The wings flap again and lo a Drake,
Navy Issue!
Check yer contracts Harry! |
Aiwha
Infinite Point Nulli Secunda
522
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Posted - 2013.07.11 13:53:00 -
[452] - Quote
Alt Shi wrote:Ace Uoweme wrote:Elizabeth Aideron wrote:what does the revenant kill have to do with us getting what we deserve or whatever Why are you posting here? The Goon propaganda team has to justify their positions somehow?
As the old Northern Coalition once said, "We're winning the war if it says so on COAD" Lock up your staions and hide your daughters.
Nulli incoming |
Harry Forever
SpaceJunkys
328
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Posted - 2013.07.11 13:57:00 -
[453] - Quote
the goons trying hard to distract us from our mission in VFK, they say its empty space, however that area is the most frequent in null sec except maybe the fountain area, there is no need for us to see big fleets, we would just die, thats why they try to bring us there, their main space is most fulnerable at the moment, because of that, the best time for all carebears to try and go there
enough ships to hunt down, easy cynos or haulers, some bigger ships as well if people need the challange, to all carebears don't hold back, I can support you with frigates and destroyers, just put a cloak device on it and try it out, the time is right! OMG! the asteroid is depleted! |
Xolve
Sniggerdly Pandemic Legion
1557
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Posted - 2013.07.11 13:58:00 -
[454] - Quote
Aiwha wrote:As the old Northern Coalition once said, "We're winning the war if it says so on COAD"
I doubt there are 10 people in this thread that even played during that time, aside from the two of us. Inappropriate signature removed. Navigator. |
Joepopo
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
69
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Posted - 2013.07.11 14:21:00 -
[455] - Quote
Harry Forever wrote:the goons trying hard to distract us from our mission in VFK, they say its empty space, however that area is the most frequent in null sec except maybe the fountain area!
God you are AWFUL!
check the NPC kill map
VFK: 410
S-DN5M: 7574
(source http://evemaps.dotlan.net/map/Deklein#npc24)
If you do want to kill nullbears, go in systems where they DO farm.
If you double click on sovereignty on a system you can see the level of the system. military 5 means the system is farmed (PVE) high industry means minerals are being mined in the system. |
Harry Forever
SpaceJunkys
328
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Posted - 2013.07.11 14:30:00 -
[456] - Quote
Joepopo wrote:Harry Forever wrote:the goons trying hard to distract us from our mission in VFK, they say its empty space, however that area is the most frequent in null sec except maybe the fountain area! God you are AWFUL! check the NPC kill map VFK: 410 S-DN5M: 7574 (source http://evemaps.dotlan.net/map/Deklein#npc24) If you do want to kill nullbears, go in systems where they DO farm. If you double click on sovereignty on a system you can see the level of the system. military 5 means the system is farmed (PVE) high industry means minerals are being mined in the system.
no I do it in VFK this has also ideological reasons, I mean look at you, how much you hate it, pure pleasure for me OMG! the asteroid is depleted! |
Joepopo
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
69
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Posted - 2013.07.11 14:39:00 -
[457] - Quote
Harry Forever wrote:no I do it in VFK this has also ideological reasons, I mean look at you, how much you hate it, pure pleasure for me and my fellow carebear buddys
I am fine with it if you do it for the symbol. I was concerned that you really thought VFK was an active system at the moment.
This is what I hate indeed, that it all seems to make no sense at all. |
Ragnarok vs-Goons Ragnarok
State War Academy Caldari State
0
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Posted - 2013.07.11 15:01:00 -
[458] - Quote
Hate goons.i was wondering if a lott of players donate isk to the war effort against the goons to this alt.i swear that all of it will go to reward goons killers.all that is needed is a kill mail and that you hawe called your ship Ragnarok so it shows that in the kill mail(former goons getts nothing )...i was thinking on a weekly pay out of rewards howe mutch deepends kill loss for the goons and the amount of isk donated to this i relly hope to gett this going but its all about fate.most will se it as just a nother scam,i will start whid donating 200 million isk,and when the isk cont gett to 1 milliard isk i will start the pay out.....i will give a weekly update on howe mutch ther is in the reward pool. date 11-07-2013.....so nowe it up to you AND i need your help to brodcast this alts bio thats just as important.this is not a toon for playing so it wont be often online contact bay mail
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Herzog Wolfhammer
Sigma Special Tactics Group
3055
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Posted - 2013.07.11 15:17:00 -
[459] - Quote
Joepopo wrote:I have been trying to understand for days now.
Herzog is a vet, his sole killmails are from sansha incursion events. He is that classic pubbie overlord, hating goonswarm for burn jita and just for being us. He has another alt in his corporation who tried to go to null sec last month and got killed at the moment he jumped in. Now he produces T1 frigates and destroyers for whatever this is in VFK... I would have hoped better for a 5 year vet.
GodProphet went to VFK in a cloaked ship, did not get killed in EC-P8R, nice. Then he looted a corpses that was flying there... well that's .. something. But I still don't see the point.
Harry plays himself as the harbinger of our destruction. For now he kills cyno frigates. I will expand on this. VFK is a system with a cyno beacon so there is no need for a ship with a cyno to jump in the system. The cyno beacon let's anyone jump on it. The problem is that the cyno beacon is located on a moon. The capship is weak during the time it align and warp to the station. The parade for this is using a cyno frig on the station. This way the capital ship jumps right on the station and if one ship dies, it will be the 1m ISK cyno instead of the 1B capital. In a way, cyno frigs are made to be killed. cyno alts are less than 900 000 SP and the cost of the frig is usually 10% of the cost of the fuel needed to jump anyway (a JF trip is about 30m). So yeah right now harry is killing this. That's something too.
I must add: Goonswarm is currently at war, staging in B-D. What business is left in VFK? I have no idea. It is quite obvious you're invading an empty place. What is the point?
From reading all your report and stories, it feels that it is all some kind of roleplay you're doing, playing stories in your heads, telling them to your friends. All this is a bit of fantasy, a bit of fiction, a bit of dream. I must admit I let myself to dream of wonderful tales too sometimes. People see a cyno kill, but you imagine it is much more. Maybe this is the butterfly flaps in VFK that would bring chaos and destruction in B-D. Maybe this one cyno you killed, jammed all our logistic, prevented stocks to be resupplied in Fountain, and eventually will cause our destruction.
Bad news is, it is not exactly what happens, you're just flapping your cute butterfly wings in VFK. I hope you make the difference between the stories you tell yourself and what really is going on. But at least I understand it better.
umad?
"Pubbie Overlord". I can't stop laughing right now. |
Ace Uoweme
Republic Military School Minmatar Republic
412
|
Posted - 2013.07.11 15:28:00 -
[460] - Quote
Ragnarok vs-Goons Ragnarok wrote:
Hate goons.i was wondering if a lott of players donate isk to the war effort against the goons to this alt.i swear that all of it will go to reward goons killers.all that is needed is a kill mail and that you hawe called your ship Ragnarok so it shows that in the kill mail(former goons getts nothing )...i was thinking on a weekly pay out of rewards howe mutch deepends kill loss for the goons and the amount of isk donated to this i relly hope to gett this going but its all about fate.most will se it as just a nother scam,i will start whid donating 200 million isk,and when the isk cont gett to 1 milliard isk i will start the pay out.....i will give a weekly update on howe mutch ther is in the reward pool. date 11-07-2013.....so nowe it up to you AND i need your help to brodcast this alts bio thats just as important.this is not a toon for playing so it wont be often online contact bay mail
Think that's the scam of in it all.
Resources aren't infinite. If this war drags on longer, these big blocks will go begging for handouts.
Deny them their ISK, probably is the best thing players can do. Then maybe a sandbox game will resemble a sandbox game, where the individual matters, not some bastard version of a Facebook game. "In a world of universal deceit, telling the truth is a revolutionary act." ~George Orwell
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Ace Uoweme
Republic Military School Minmatar Republic
412
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Posted - 2013.07.11 15:31:00 -
[461] - Quote
Elizabeth Aideron wrote:Ace Uoweme wrote:Elizabeth Aideron wrote:what does the revenant kill have to do with us getting what we deserve or whatever Why are you posting here? trying to make sense of your inane posts
Stop smoking that Mitt weed and you might.
If there was ever a definition of a jarhead, Goons show it in practice, daily. "In a world of universal deceit, telling the truth is a revolutionary act." ~George Orwell
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Khergit Deserters
Crom's Angels
1323
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Posted - 2013.07.11 15:35:00 -
[462] - Quote
Joepopo wrote:Harry Forever wrote:no I do it in VFK this has also ideological reasons, I mean look at you, how much you hate it, pure pleasure for me and my fellow carebear buddys I am fine with it if you do it for the symbol. I was concerned that you really thought VFK was an active system at the moment. This is what I hate indeed, that it all seems to make no sense at all. Joe, you're still not getting the point. You want to see immediate results that have a huge practical impact. Big kill, real hurt on Goons. Otherwise, you think there's no point. We're not so foolish as to think we're going put a dent in the big Goon organization like that right now. High sec player makes his first trip to VFK-- that's a win. High sec, low-SP, low-isk play kills a cyno frig-- win. Another 'bear joins up or donates a ship-- another win.
As Harry once said in SpaceJunkys chat, "You have to be humble in the implementation, but not humble in the goal." We're doing things in realistic, incremental steps, and winning all along the way. |
Joepopo
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
73
|
Posted - 2013.07.11 15:52:00 -
[463] - Quote
Khergit Deserters wrote:"You have to be humble in the implementation, but not humble in the goal." .
This I agree. And it makes sense. Another saying to think about: don't count your chickens until they are hatched.
I hope you become relevant in 0.0 someday. But stay humble while all you have is one brave newbie killing cyno ships for you all. |
Aiwha
Infinite Point Nulli Secunda
524
|
Posted - 2013.07.11 15:55:00 -
[464] - Quote
Ace Uoweme wrote:Ragnarok vs-Goons Ragnarok wrote:
Hate goons.i was wondering if a lott of players donate isk to the war effort against the goons to this alt.i swear that all of it will go to reward goons killers.all that is needed is a kill mail and that you hawe called your ship Ragnarok so it shows that in the kill mail(former goons getts nothing )...i was thinking on a weekly pay out of rewards howe mutch deepends kill loss for the goons and the amount of isk donated to this i relly hope to gett this going but its all about fate.most will se it as just a nother scam,i will start whid donating 200 million isk,and when the isk cont gett to 1 milliard isk i will start the pay out.....i will give a weekly update on howe mutch ther is in the reward pool. date 11-07-2013.....so nowe it up to you AND i need your help to brodcast this alts bio thats just as important.this is not a toon for playing so it wont be often online contact bay mail
Think that's the scam of in it all. Resources aren't infinite. If this war drags on longer, these big blocks will go begging for handouts. Deny them their ISK, probably is the best thing players can do. Then maybe a sandbox game will resemble a sandbox game, where the individual matters, not some bastard version of a Facebook game.
We have a rental empire and TEST & friends have the most valuable moons in EVE. We're financially stable. Lock up your staions and hide your daughters.
Nulli incoming |
Andski
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
8412
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Posted - 2013.07.11 15:58:00 -
[465] - Quote
Aiwha wrote:TEST & friends have the most valuable moons in EVE.
"Guys guys we're doing fine financially BTW we're taking donations" Twitter: @EVEAndski
TheMittani.com: The premier source for news, commentary and discussion of EVE Online and other games of interest.-á |
Ragnarok vs-Goons Ragnarok
State War Academy Caldari State
4
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Posted - 2013.07.11 16:03:00 -
[466] - Quote
Ace Uoweme wrote:Ragnarok vs-Goons Ragnarok wrote:
Hate goons.i was wondering if a lott of players donate isk to the war effort against the goons to this alt.i swear that all of it will go to reward goons killers.all that is needed is a kill mail and that you hawe called your ship Ragnarok so it shows that in the kill mail(former goons getts nothing )...i was thinking on a weekly pay out of rewards howe mutch deepends kill loss for the goons and the amount of isk donated to this i relly hope to gett this going but its all about fate.most will se it as just a nother scam,i will start whid donating 200 million isk,and when the isk cont gett to 1 milliard isk i will start the pay out.....i will give a weekly update on howe mutch ther is in the reward pool. date 11-07-2013.....so nowe it up to you AND i need your help to brodcast this alts bio thats just as important.this is not a toon for playing so it wont be often online contact bay mail
Think that's the scam of in it all. Resources aren't infinite. If this war drags on longer, these big blocks will go begging for handouts. Deny them their ISK, probably is the best thing players can do. Then maybe a sandbox game will resemble a sandbox game, where the individual matters, not some bastard version of a Facebook game. not a scam,think the goons hawe to be broken they hawe to mutch infulence whid ccp.so no sand box game before they are broken |
Harry Forever
SpaceJunkys
339
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Posted - 2013.07.11 17:01:00 -
[467] - Quote
Alt Shi wrote:"Classic"?? Wow. I don't know what to say to that. Goon tears flow, blow snot into a tissue. The wings flap again and lo a Drake,
Navy Issue!Check yer contracts Harry!
Thanks Alt Shi!! Drake Navy Issue arrived in my inbox today :D
to everybody Goons Doomsday Event - 28. July
dont miss it! we got awesome prizes now!!!
https://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=posts&t=255295 OMG! the asteroid is depleted! |
Harry Forever
SpaceJunkys
340
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Posted - 2013.07.11 17:10:00 -
[468] - Quote
Ragnarok vs-Goons Ragnarok wrote:Ace Uoweme wrote:Ragnarok vs-Goons Ragnarok wrote:
Hate goons.i was wondering if a lott of players donate isk to the war effort against the goons to this alt.i swear that all of it will go to reward goons killers.all that is needed is a kill mail and that you hawe called your ship Ragnarok so it shows that in the kill mail(former goons getts nothing )...i was thinking on a weekly pay out of rewards howe mutch deepends kill loss for the goons and the amount of isk donated to this i relly hope to gett this going but its all about fate.most will se it as just a nother scam,i will start whid donating 200 million isk,and when the isk cont gett to 1 milliard isk i will start the pay out.....i will give a weekly update on howe mutch ther is in the reward pool. date 11-07-2013.....so nowe it up to you AND i need your help to brodcast this alts bio thats just as important.this is not a toon for playing so it wont be often online contact bay mail
Think that's the scam of in it all. Resources aren't infinite. If this war drags on longer, these big blocks will go begging for handouts. Deny them their ISK, probably is the best thing players can do. Then maybe a sandbox game will resemble a sandbox game, where the individual matters, not some bastard version of a Facebook game. not a scam,think the goons hawe to be broken they hawe to mutch infulence whid ccp.so no sand box game before they are broken
dude everybody knows you are a scammer, put your heart into something you are convinced of and get moving... this is pathetic OMG! the asteroid is depleted! |
Darius Onok
Proletariat Projects Inc SoulWing Alliance
1
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Posted - 2013.07.11 17:20:00 -
[469] - Quote
Oh man, I totally want to get in on this. I have only been playing for like 7 days and I have no idea about anything that is going on though. I do have all my core training certificates which I think let me fly most Tech I's if I understand things right. I just need people that will explain a lot of this stuff to me. My corporation keeps telling me "Don't worry about that. Train your skills up first and then you can do things" but I don't like playing the game of "Sit and wait to play the game"
The only problem is I don't understand a lot of the stuff like I don't know about bubbles, or how to fight like some of the people in the videos or if I go to null sec will I be stuck there and not be able to get back to the rest of my ships when I do want to do quests or anything like that. Is it even worth doing missions? I don't know.
I've been using my last couple of days to practice scanning down and jumping into wormholes but my corporation even said I shouldn't be doing that yet. I hate the idea of "You have to wait 4-5 months to get skills to play the game"
Are you able to move between systems with clones? Like if I leave one in gulfonodi will I beable to jump between there and Null or will I be stuck in Null sec? |
Miku Yumi
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
2
|
Posted - 2013.07.11 17:23:00 -
[470] - Quote
Andski wrote:Aiwha wrote:TEST & friends have the most valuable moons in EVE. "Guys guys we're doing fine financially BTW we're taking donations"
and bringing gevlon goblin back after they scammed and kicked him |
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Harry Forever
SpaceJunkys
342
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Posted - 2013.07.11 17:29:00 -
[471] - Quote
Darius Onok wrote:Oh man, I totally want to get in on this. I have only been playing for like 7 days and I have no idea about anything that is going on though. I do have all my core training certificates which I think let me fly most Tech I's if I understand things right. I just need people that will explain a lot of this stuff to me. My corporation keeps telling me "Don't worry about that. Train your skills up first and then you can do things" but I don't like playing the game of "Sit and wait to play the game"
The only problem is I don't understand a lot of the stuff like I don't know about bubbles, or how to fight like some of the people in the videos or if I go to null sec will I be stuck there and not be able to get back to the rest of my ships when I do want to do quests or anything like that. Is it even worth doing missions? I don't know.
I've been using my last couple of days to practice scanning down and jumping into wormholes but my corporation even said I shouldn't be doing that yet. I hate the idea of "You have to wait 4-5 months to get skills to play the game"
Are you able to move between systems with clones? Like if I leave one in gulfonodi will I beable to jump between there and Null or will I be stuck in Null sec?
best thing for the start would be to join Estel Arador Crop, then setup jump clones around the main trade hubs, the medical clone would be good to locate maybe close to the entry point of null, however mine is far away, it still works, I do not die so often anymore, some of us even want to setup a jumpclone in null but i don't want to do it yet as i want to keep doing stuff in high sec, and also am worried that I'm a bit stuck in null sec...
you can easy go to null sec with basic skills only, I did it, however recommended is at least the smallest cloaking device... one guy joined us 2 days ago with a tackling venture :D the bubbles have been bad at the start for me, lost many ships but there are some easy routines if you follow those you can go past them... just hop into my chat channel SpaceJunkys and we will explain you everything... OMG! the asteroid is depleted! |
Darius Onok
Proletariat Projects Inc SoulWing Alliance
2
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Posted - 2013.07.11 17:33:00 -
[472] - Quote
Sounds good! I'll jump in tonight after I get off work. |
Ragnarok vs-Goons Ragnarok
State War Academy Caldari State
4
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Posted - 2013.07.11 18:02:00 -
[473] - Quote
Harry Forever wrote:Ragnarok vs-Goons Ragnarok wrote:Ace Uoweme wrote:[quote=Ragnarok vs-Goons Ragnarok]
Hate goons.i was wondering if a lott of players donate isk to the war effort against the goons to this alt.i swear that all of it will go to reward goons killers.all that is needed is a kill mail and that you hawe called your ship Ragnarok so it shows that in the kill mail(former goons getts nothing )...i was thinking on a weekly pay out of rewards howe mutch deepends kill loss for the goons and the amount of isk donated to this i relly hope to gett this going but its all about fate.most will se it as just a nother scam,i will start whid donating 200 million isk,and when the isk cont gett to 1 milliard isk i will start the pay out.....i will give a weekly update on howe mutch ther is in the reward pool. date 11-07-2013.....so nowe it up to you AND i need your help to brodcast this alts bio thats just as important.this is not a toon for playing so it wont be often online contact bay mail
Think that's the scam of in it all. Resources aren't infinite. If this war drags on longer, these big blocks will go begging for handouts. Deny them their ISK, probably is the best thing players can do. Then maybe a sandbox game will resemble a sandbox game, where the individual matters, not some bastard version of a Facebook game. not a scam,think the goons hawe to be broken they hawe to mutch infulence whid ccp.so no sand box game before they are broken
dude everybody knows you are a scammer, put your heart into something you are convinced of and get moving... this is pathetic[/quot its nott a scam i will probebly nott gett the needed monny so i will keep saving up may self to i gett to 1 milliard isk.and sorry to step on your turf |
Ragnarok vs-Goons Ragnarok
State War Academy Caldari State
4
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Posted - 2013.07.11 18:45:00 -
[474] - Quote
Hate goons.i was wondering if a lott of players donate isk to the war effort against the goons to this alt.i swear that all of it will go to reward goons killers.all that is needed is a kill mail and that you hawe called your ship Ragnarok so it shows that in the kill mail(former goons getts nothing )...i was thinking on a weekly pay out of rewards howe mutch deepends kill loss for the goons and the amount of isk donated to this, i relly hope to gett this going but its all about fate.most will se it as just a nother scam,i will start whid donating 200 million isk,and when the isk cont gett to 1 milliard isk i will start the pay out.....i will give a weekly update on howe mutch ther is in the reward pool. date 11-07-2013.....so nowe it up to you AND i need your help to brodcast this alts bio thats just as important.this is not a toon for playing so it wont be often online contact bay mail. YOU CAN NOWE SEND ME KILL MAILS pool is nowe 1 milliard isk,,,,,,only 5010 isk donated from players,and plees help to inform other players |
Harry Forever
SpaceJunkys
343
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Posted - 2013.07.11 18:49:00 -
[475] - Quote
Ragnarok vs-Goons Ragnarok wrote:Hate goons.i was wondering if a lott of players donate isk to the war effort against the goons to this alt.i swear that all of it will go to reward goons killers.all that is needed is a kill mail and that you hawe called your ship Ragnarok so it shows that in the kill mail(former goons getts nothing )...i was thinking on a weekly pay out of rewards howe mutch deepends kill loss for the goons and the amount of isk donated to this, i relly hope to gett this going but its all about fate.most will se it as just a nother scam,i will start whid donating 200 million isk,and when the isk cont gett to 1 milliard isk i will start the pay out.....i will give a weekly update on howe mutch ther is in the reward pool. date 11-07-2013.....so nowe it up to you AND i need your help to brodcast this alts bio thats just as important.this is not a toon for playing so it wont be often online contact bay mail. YOU CAN NOWE SEND ME KILL MAILS pool is nowe 1 milliard isk,,,,,,only 5010 isk donated from players,and plees help to inform other players
very funny OMG! the asteroid is depleted! |
Harry Forever
SpaceJunkys
343
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Posted - 2013.07.11 19:34:00 -
[476] - Quote
Joepopo wrote:Khergit Deserters wrote:"You have to be humble in the implementation, but not humble in the goal." . This I agree. And it makes sense. Another saying to think about: don't count your chickens until they are hatched. I hope you become relevant in 0.0 someday. But stay humble while all you have is one brave newbie killing cyno ships for you all. Why don t you fit a cyno, contact BL nearby and hunt capitals for them? That would be a big step towards your goal.
hey Joe, can you please check my recent kill and let me know why you guys are making cynos with hounds now?
did you run out of frigs? we might be able to deliver some to VFK in the next hour
please let us know OMG! the asteroid is depleted! |
Joepopo
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
73
|
Posted - 2013.07.11 19:49:00 -
[477] - Quote
Harry Forever wrote: hey Joe, can you please check my recent kill and let me know why you guys are making cynos with hounds now?
did you run out of frigs? just let us know, we might be able to deliver some to VFK in the next hour
Got it.
It seems you killed a FCON guy, they are known not to be the smartest.
There is no point using a T2 frigate in VFK to make a cyno. I hope you laughed heavily at the guy |
Harry Forever
SpaceJunkys
344
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Posted - 2013.07.11 20:00:00 -
[478] - Quote
Joepopo wrote:Harry Forever wrote: hey Joe, can you please check my recent kill and let me know why you guys are making cynos with hounds now?
did you run out of frigs? just let us know, we might be able to deliver some to VFK in the next hour
Got it. It seems you killed a FCON guy, they are known not to be the smartest. There is no point using a T2 frigate in VFK to make a cyno. I hope you laughed heavily at the guy
that ship was a welcome variety, felt like opening a suprise egg when looking at the killmail :D OMG! the asteroid is depleted! |
Alavaria
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
11
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Posted - 2013.07.11 20:02:00 -
[479] - Quote
Joepopo wrote:Harry Forever wrote: hey Joe, can you please check my recent kill and let me know why you guys are making cynos with hounds now?
did you run out of frigs? just let us know, we might be able to deliver some to VFK in the next hour
It seems you killed a FCON guy, they are known not to be the smartest. There is no point using a T2 frigate in VFK to make a cyno. I hope you laughed heavily at the guy Name and shame.
They better not get reimbursed for that/ Loyalty is a virtue, participation brings reward. Join Siegefleet, shoot structure, click participation link.
My main is out of sub ... NO, STOP BEING POOR |
Herzog Wolfhammer
Sigma Special Tactics Group
3064
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Posted - 2013.07.11 21:02:00 -
[480] - Quote
Joepopo wrote:Harry Forever wrote: hey Joe, can you please check my recent kill and let me know why you guys are making cynos with hounds now?
did you run out of frigs? just let us know, we might be able to deliver some to VFK in the next hour
Got it. It seems you killed a FCON guy, they are known not to be the smartest. There is no point using a T2 frigate in VFK to make a cyno. I hope you laughed heavily at the guy
Joe, tell your guy who just lost the hound that we have a lot of Rifters if he wants one.
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Retar Aveymone
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
351
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Posted - 2013.07.11 21:05:00 -
[481] - Quote
Harry Forever wrote: hey Joe, can you please check my recent kill and let me know why you guys are making cynos with hounds now?
did you run out of frigs? just let us know, we might be able to deliver some to VFK in the next hour
i usually use a falcon because im not a poor and had one lying around |
Daimon Kaiera
Kraken.
374
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Posted - 2013.07.11 21:05:00 -
[482] - Quote
Every single thread I see about someone in high-sec hating on the Goons just makes me laugh a bit on the inside; I wonder how many of these people who, supposedly, hate the Goons actually do so for a personal reason (Got scammed &c), or just because they were told from their pubbie friends about how Goons were all twirling mustache boogeymen. .... . .-.. .--. / .. / .... .- ...- . / ..-. .- .-.. .-.. . -. / .- -. -.. / .. / -.-. .- -. -. --- - / --. . - / ..- .--. / ... - --- .--. - .... .. ... / ... .. --. -. .- - ..- .-. . / .. -.. . .- / .. ... / -. --- - / ... - --- .-.. . -. / ... - --- .--. |
Retar Aveymone
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
351
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Posted - 2013.07.11 21:05:00 -
[483] - Quote
anyone cynoing in a hound is probably doing the same thing |
Proletariat Tingtango
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
464
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Posted - 2013.07.11 21:12:00 -
[484] - Quote
I only cyno in the finest shippery |
Harry Forever
SpaceJunkys
347
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Posted - 2013.07.11 21:15:00 -
[485] - Quote
Retar Aveymone wrote:anyone cynoing in a hound is probably doing the same thing
sure you go mining with blasters as well right? because you can afford it... OMG! the asteroid is depleted! |
Joepopo
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
74
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Posted - 2013.07.11 21:32:00 -
[486] - Quote
Herzog Wolfhammer wrote: Joe, tell your guy who just lost the hound that we have a lot of Rifters if he wants one.
Would you dare move from torrinos to deliver it? |
Herzog Wolfhammer
Sigma Special Tactics Group
3065
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Posted - 2013.07.11 21:47:00 -
[487] - Quote
Joepopo wrote:Herzog Wolfhammer wrote: Joe, tell your guy who just lost the hound that we have a lot of Rifters if he wants one.
Would you dare move from torrinos to deliver it?
I'd deliver it alright.
I see more assumption that we "hate the goons" and are victims of the goons in some way. So I must remind the readers in such a manner that is moronic, since they appear to be unable to read, that we don't hate the goons. In fact we knew early on that the goons would be the best sports about this since raw cheap PVP has always been a goon thing anyway.
(Before they sold out to carebearism as Harry's latest kill appears to indicate).
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Khergit Deserters
Crom's Angels
1327
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Posted - 2013.07.11 21:54:00 -
[488] - Quote
Daimon Kaiera wrote:Every single thread I see about someone in high-sec hating on the Goons just makes me laugh a bit on the inside; I wonder how many of these people who, supposedly, hate the Goons actually do so for a personal reason (Got scammed &c), or just because they were told from their pubbie friends about how Goons were all twirling mustache boogeymen. (Speaking only for myself-- everybody in this movement is allowed to speak for himself, btw. As opposed to ::cough cough:: members of some organizations I know). It's just that you guys have put yourselves out there as the bad guys for so many years. You are the leading Dark Side organization in the game. You have a lot of imitators, but we naturally have to start with you guys first. As Ray Liotta said in Grand Theft Auto, 'Don't take it poisonal.' |
Alt Shi
School of Applied Knowledge Caldari State
21
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Posted - 2013.07.11 21:57:00 -
[489] - Quote
Daimon Kaiera wrote:Every single thread I see about someone in high-sec hating on the Goons just makes me laugh a bit on the inside; I wonder how many of these people who, supposedly, hate the Goons actually do so for a personal reason (Got scammed &c), or just because they were told from their pubbie friends about how Goons were all twirling mustache boogeymen.
We have never had any contact (positive or negative) with any Goon except for here in the forums.
We simply don't like bullies. |
Khergit Deserters
Crom's Angels
1327
|
Posted - 2013.07.11 21:59:00 -
[490] - Quote
Alt Shi wrote:Daimon Kaiera wrote:Every single thread I see about someone in high-sec hating on the Goons just makes me laugh a bit on the inside; I wonder how many of these people who, supposedly, hate the Goons actually do so for a personal reason (Got scammed &c), or just because they were told from their pubbie friends about how Goons were all twirling mustache boogeymen. We have never had any contact (positive or negative) with any Goon except for here in the forums. We simply don't like bullies. There you go, concise and to the point. 'We simply don't like bullies.' Well said. |
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knobber Jobbler
Bat Country Goonswarm Federation
249
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Posted - 2013.07.11 22:07:00 -
[491] - Quote
Aiwha wrote:Ace Uoweme wrote:Ragnarok vs-Goons Ragnarok wrote:
Hate goons.i was wondering if a lott of players donate isk to the war effort against the goons to this alt.i swear that all of it will go to reward goons killers.all that is needed is a kill mail and that you hawe called your ship Ragnarok so it shows that in the kill mail(former goons getts nothing )...i was thinking on a weekly pay out of rewards howe mutch deepends kill loss for the goons and the amount of isk donated to this i relly hope to gett this going but its all about fate.most will se it as just a nother scam,i will start whid donating 200 million isk,and when the isk cont gett to 1 milliard isk i will start the pay out.....i will give a weekly update on howe mutch ther is in the reward pool. date 11-07-2013.....so nowe it up to you AND i need your help to brodcast this alts bio thats just as important.this is not a toon for playing so it wont be often online contact bay mail
Think that's the scam of in it all. Resources aren't infinite. If this war drags on longer, these big blocks will go begging for handouts. Deny them their ISK, probably is the best thing players can do. Then maybe a sandbox game will resemble a sandbox game, where the individual matters, not some bastard version of a Facebook game. We have a rental empire and TEST & friends have the most valuable moons in EVE. We're financially stable.
It's like if you keep saying it, it might come true! Without uncle shadoo and his supercap fleet behind you guys, you're nothing but poor scrubs with pets. |
Joepopo
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
75
|
Posted - 2013.07.11 22:08:00 -
[492] - Quote
Herzog Wolfhammer wrote: So I must remind the readers in such a manner that is moronic, since they appear to be unable to read, that we don't hate the goons.
Give me your money and I will pay you back double. I say it so it *must* be true.
Herzog Wolfhammer wrote: (Before they sold out to carebearism as Harry's latest kill appears to indicate).
Technetium. |
Ragnarok vs-Goons Ragnarok
State War Academy Caldari State
4
|
Posted - 2013.07.12 00:07:00 -
[493] - Quote
knobber Jobbler wrote:Aiwha wrote:Ace Uoweme wrote:Ragnarok vs-Goons Ragnarok wrote:
Hate goons.i was wondering if a lott of players donate isk to the war effort against the goons to this alt.i swear that all of it will go to reward goons killers.all that is needed is a kill mail and that you hawe called your ship Ragnarok so it shows that in the kill mail(former goons getts nothing )...i was thinking on a weekly pay out of rewards howe mutch deepends kill loss for the goons and the amount of isk donated to this i relly hope to gett this going but its all about fate.most will se it as just a nother scam,i will start whid donating 200 million isk,and when the isk cont gett to 1 milliard isk i will start the pay out.....i will give a weekly update on howe mutch ther is in the reward pool. date 11-07-2013.....so nowe it up to you AND i need your help to brodcast this alts bio thats just as important.this is not a toon for playing so it wont be often online contact bay mail
Think that's the scam of in it all. Resources aren't infinite. If this war drags on longer, these big blocks will go begging for handouts. Deny them their ISK, probably is the best thing players can do. Then maybe a sandbox game will resemble a sandbox game, where the individual matters, not some bastard version of a Facebook game. We have a rental empire and TEST & friends have the most valuable moons in EVE. We're financially stable. It's like if you keep saying it, it might come true! Without uncle shadoo and his supercap fleet behind you guys, you're nothing but poor scrubs with pets. way do goons bother to respons to this tread ?
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Khergit Deserters
Crom's Angels
1329
|
Posted - 2013.07.12 00:30:00 -
[494] - Quote
Ragnarok vs-Goons Ragnarok wrote:
Because it's an interesting thread with some content. Much more fun than "CCP nerfed my Hulk" or "CCP spent too much money on DUST" or "The launcher still doesn't work." Nobody wasted time with that regurgitarian stuff in this thread. No time for that, got things to do. |
Daimon Kaiera
Kraken.
374
|
Posted - 2013.07.12 01:13:00 -
[495] - Quote
Khergit Deserters wrote:Daimon Kaiera wrote:Every single thread I see about someone in high-sec hating on the Goons just makes me laugh a bit on the inside; I wonder how many of these people who, supposedly, hate the Goons actually do so for a personal reason (Got scammed &c), or just because they were told from their pubbie friends about how Goons were all twirling mustache boogeymen. (Speaking only for myself-- everybody in this movement is allowed to speak for himself, btw. As opposed to members of ::cough cough:: some organizations I know). It's just that you guys have put yourselves out there as the bad guys, for so many years now. You are the leading Dark Side organization in the game. You have a lot of imitators, but we naturally have to start with the loudest bad guys first. But as Ray Liotta said in Grand Theft Auto, 'Don't take it poisonal.'
I don't know why you say "you guys" to me when referring to GSF because I'm neither in GSF nor do I pretend to be in it (Except in those few cases where I'm bored as hell and ask in local if anyone wants to join for a nominal fee. Even then, you can check my alliance within a second.)
Ragnarok vs-Goons Ragnarok wrote:way do goons bother to respons to this tread ?
Because it's fun to propogate the popular stereotype of what Goons are on the Eve-O forums (Really, these are awful forums.) - you can't directly compare how the vast majority of them operate from 2004 as compared to now, yet I suppose it's stuck in most of our heads that they've always been the same? Yes, this response is crafted based on what I would see in most of threads where Goons are the main subject. I haven't read this thread except for the last page. I need to lurk more, but I can't be bothered. .... . .-.. .--. / .. / .... .- ...- . / ..-. .- .-.. .-.. . -. / .- -. -.. / .. / -.-. .- -. -. --- - / --. . - / ..- .--. / ... - --- .--. - .... .. ... / ... .. --. -. .- - ..- .-. . / .. -.. . .- / .. ... / -. --- - / ... - --- .-.. . -. / ... - --- .--. |
Alavaria
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
13
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Posted - 2013.07.12 03:11:00 -
[496] - Quote
Khergit Deserters wrote:Ragnarok vs-Goons Ragnarok wrote: Because it's an interesting thread with some content. Much more fun than "CCP nerfed my Hulk" or "CCP spent too much money on DUST" or "The launcher still doesn't work." Nobody wasted time with that regurgitarian stuff in this thread. No time for that, got things to do. Pretty much. The launcher still doesn't work, some people were having trouble until they just used the exefile.
Now when it's taken away because the launcher is ~the latest and best~, THEN you'll see our participation drop. Oh no, we will be defeated by a launcher, how meta. Loyalty is a virtue, participation brings reward. Join Siegefleet, shoot structure, click participation link.
My main is out of sub ... NO, STOP BEING POOR |
Alavaria
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
13
|
Posted - 2013.07.12 03:13:00 -
[497] - Quote
knobber Jobbler wrote:It's like if you keep saying it, it might come true! Without uncle shadoo and his supercap fleet behind you guys, you're nothing but poor scrubs with pets. They were there... behind shadoo?
Armor Supercaps!! Armor supercaps !!! Loyalty is a virtue, participation brings reward. Join Siegefleet, shoot structure, click participation link.
My main is out of sub ... NO, STOP BEING POOR |
Khergit Deserters
Crom's Angels
1331
|
Posted - 2013.07.12 03:36:00 -
[498] - Quote
Daimon Kaiera wrote:Khergit Deserters wrote:Daimon Kaiera wrote:Every single thread I see about someone in high-sec hating on the Goons just makes me laugh a bit on the inside; I wonder how many of these people who, supposedly, hate the Goons actually do so for a personal reason (Got scammed &c), or just because they were told from their pubbie friends about how Goons were all twirling mustache boogeymen. (Speaking only for myself-- everybody in this movement is allowed to speak for himself, btw. As opposed to members of ::cough cough:: some organizations I know). It's just that you guys have put yourselves out there as the bad guys, for so many years now. You are the leading Dark Side organization in the game. You have a lot of imitators, but we naturally have to start with the loudest bad guys first. But as Ray Liotta said in Grand Theft Auto, 'Don't take it poisonal.' I don't know why you say "you guys" to me when referring to GSF because I'm neither in GSF nor do I pretend to be in it (Except in those few cases where I'm bored as hell and ask in local if anyone wants to join for a nominal fee. Even then, you can check my alliance within a second.) Sorry, I detected a whiff of oppositional speech, made a bad assumption. Sorry. As I said, we're busy! |
Ace Uoweme
Republic Military School Minmatar Republic
421
|
Posted - 2013.07.12 04:16:00 -
[499] - Quote
Proletariat Tingtango wrote:I only cyno in the finest shippery
Welfare recipient.
Then they have the audacity of claiming others are "self-entitled". "In a world of universal deceit, telling the truth is a revolutionary act." ~George Orwell
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Joepopo
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
75
|
Posted - 2013.07.12 05:40:00 -
[500] - Quote
Ace Uoweme wrote: Karma is a ****
Ace Uoweme wrote:Then they have the audacity of claiming others are "self-entitled".
Ace Uoweme is a bad "******" |
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Herzog Wolfhammer
Sigma Special Tactics Group
3070
|
Posted - 2013.07.12 07:46:00 -
[501] - Quote
That was easy. |
Harry Forever
SpaceJunkys
350
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Posted - 2013.07.12 10:55:00 -
[502] - Quote
nice one! the next cyno-ship is yours Herzog! :D OMG! the asteroid is depleted! |
Herzog Wolfhammer
Sigma Special Tactics Group
3076
|
Posted - 2013.07.13 04:29:00 -
[503] - Quote
The goons need a clinic on how to use combat probes.
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Khanh'rhh
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
1993
|
Posted - 2013.07.13 11:57:00 -
[504] - Quote
Are people congratulating themselves on flying to a 0.0 system that's been largely deserted for a month, under cloak, ITT? "Do not touch anything unnecessarily. Beware of pretty girls in dance halls and parks who may be spies, as well as bicycles, revolvers, uniforms, arms, dead horses, and men lying on roads -- they are not there accidentally." -Soviet infantry manual, issued in the 1930 |
Harry Forever
SpaceJunkys
356
|
Posted - 2013.07.13 12:36:00 -
[505] - Quote
Khanh'rhh wrote:Are people congratulating themselves on flying to a 0.0 system that's been largely deserted for a month, under cloak, ITT?
are goons congratulating themselves for such deserted posts? killed over 30 ships the last 2 weeks, seems you are all undocking with your eyes shut OMG! the asteroid is depleted! |
Alt Shi
School of Applied Knowledge Caldari State
23
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Posted - 2013.07.13 13:08:00 -
[506] - Quote
Khanh'rhh wrote:Are people congratulating themselves on flying to a 0.0 system that's been largely deserted for a month, under cloak, ITT?
Rome. |
Ace Uoweme
Republic Military School Minmatar Republic
435
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Posted - 2013.07.13 14:10:00 -
[507] - Quote
Harry Forever wrote:Khanh'rhh wrote:Are people congratulating themselves on flying to a 0.0 system that's been largely deserted for a month, under cloak, ITT? are goons congratulating themselves for such deserted comments? killed over 30 ships the last 2 weeks, seems you are all undocking with your eyes shut
OUCH. "In a world of universal deceit, telling the truth is a revolutionary act." ~George Orwell
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Ace Uoweme
Republic Military School Minmatar Republic
436
|
Posted - 2013.07.13 14:16:00 -
[508] - Quote
Daimon Kaiera wrote:Every single thread I see about someone in high-sec hating on the Goons just makes me laugh a bit on the inside; I wonder how many of these people who, supposedly, hate the Goons actually do so for a personal reason (Got scammed &c), or just because they were told from their pubbie friends about how Goons were all twirling mustache boogeymen.
I knew about BL before the Goons.
I don't like them not because they did anything to me personally, but because they're Wal-Mart II.
If you're from the EU and don't understand it: Wal-Mart II = Deutsche Telekom.
A monopoly.
Bad. Bad. Bad. "In a world of universal deceit, telling the truth is a revolutionary act." ~George Orwell
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Aidan Brooder
Dynasphere Ltd.
362
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Posted - 2013.07.13 14:33:00 -
[509] - Quote
Back from RL-SUX system...
Our cause is providing a valuable service. Even Ace didn't talk about WoW for three posts at least!
If we can move that mountain, what else could stand in our way? Blog: http://aidanbrooder.wordpress.com My EVE YouTube Vids (most recent): http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=T2alSWxXQbI http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1SEzNNYSlDE |
Khanh'rhh
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
1993
|
Posted - 2013.07.13 16:18:00 -
[510] - Quote
Harry Forever wrote:Khanh'rhh wrote:Are people congratulating themselves on flying to a 0.0 system that's been largely deserted for a month, under cloak, ITT? are goons congratulating themselves for such deserted comments? killed over 30 ships the last 2 weeks, seems you are all undocking with your eyes shut Yes, this is literally the case since you light the cyno on station then worry about the other client and making that ship safe. Whether the cyno ship still exists to re-dock and do this again is an afterthought, since it usually costs less than the fuel.
Anyway, I posted in your other thread about how to do better than cyno ships. "Do not touch anything unnecessarily. Beware of pretty girls in dance halls and parks who may be spies, as well as bicycles, revolvers, uniforms, arms, dead horses, and men lying on roads -- they are not there accidentally." -Soviet infantry manual, issued in the 1930 |
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Harry Forever
SpaceJunkys
358
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Posted - 2013.07.13 17:14:00 -
[511] - Quote
Khanh'rhh wrote:Harry Forever wrote:Khanh'rhh wrote:Are people congratulating themselves on flying to a 0.0 system that's been largely deserted for a month, under cloak, ITT? are goons congratulating themselves for such deserted comments? killed over 30 ships the last 2 weeks, seems you are all undocking with your eyes shut Yes, this is literally the case since you light the cyno on station then worry about the other client and making that ship safe. Whether the cyno ship still exists to re-dock and do this again is an afterthought, since it usually costs less than the fuel. Anyway, I posted in your other thread about how to do better than cyno ships.
you mean shooting cynos is sensless like ganking miners in high sec? OMG! the asteroid is depleted! |
Onictus
Silver Snake Enterprise Fatal Ascension
297
|
Posted - 2013.07.13 17:20:00 -
[512] - Quote
Harry Forever wrote:Khanh'rhh wrote:Harry Forever wrote:Khanh'rhh wrote:Are people congratulating themselves on flying to a 0.0 system that's been largely deserted for a month, under cloak, ITT? are goons congratulating themselves for such deserted comments? killed over 30 ships the last 2 weeks, seems you are all undocking with your eyes shut Yes, this is literally the case since you light the cyno on station then worry about the other client and making that ship safe. Whether the cyno ship still exists to re-dock and do this again is an afterthought, since it usually costs less than the fuel. Anyway, I posted in your other thread about how to do better than cyno ships. you mean shooting cynos is sensless like ganking miners in high sec?
Much lower value, we use nearly unfit T1 frigs for a reason. |
Harry Forever
SpaceJunkys
358
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Posted - 2013.07.13 17:30:00 -
[513] - Quote
Onictus wrote:Harry Forever wrote:Khanh'rhh wrote:Harry Forever wrote:Khanh'rhh wrote:Are people congratulating themselves on flying to a 0.0 system that's been largely deserted for a month, under cloak, ITT? are goons congratulating themselves for such deserted comments? killed over 30 ships the last 2 weeks, seems you are all undocking with your eyes shut Yes, this is literally the case since you light the cyno on station then worry about the other client and making that ship safe. Whether the cyno ship still exists to re-dock and do this again is an afterthought, since it usually costs less than the fuel. Anyway, I posted in your other thread about how to do better than cyno ships. you mean shooting cynos is sensless like ganking miners in high sec? Much lower value, we use nearly unfit T1 frigs for a reason.
like hounds and stuff I know, check my killboard, 280m shot down already OMG! the asteroid is depleted! |
Jimmy Morane
Aurora Novae Aetatis Expoit This Mf's
104
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Posted - 2013.07.13 18:16:00 -
[514] - Quote
Ace Uoweme wrote:Daimon Kaiera wrote:Every single thread I see about someone in high-sec hating on the Goons just makes me laugh a bit on the inside; I wonder how many of these people who, supposedly, hate the Goons actually do so for a personal reason (Got scammed &c), or just because they were told from their pubbie friends about how Goons were all twirling mustache boogeymen. I knew about BL before the Goons. I don't like them not because they did anything to me personally, but because they're Wal-Mart II. If you're from the EU and don't understand it: Wal-Mart II = Deutsche Telekom. A monopoly. Bad. Bad. Bad.
Walmart is not a monopoly. A bit Borg-like but not a monopoly.
*Looks around*
o/ HI Jar Jar........errrr I mean Harry!!! |
Onictus
Silver Snake Enterprise Fatal Ascension
297
|
Posted - 2013.07.13 18:30:00 -
[515] - Quote
[quote=Harry Forever[/quote]
Don't look at my killboard then, 280 mil is like one kill.
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Harry Forever
SpaceJunkys
358
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Posted - 2013.07.13 18:51:00 -
[516] - Quote
Onictus wrote: Don't look at my killboard then, 280 mil is like one kill.
yet more people are interested in me killing cynos, bummer huh? OMG! the asteroid is depleted! |
Herzog Wolfhammer
Sigma Special Tactics Group
3077
|
Posted - 2013.07.14 04:20:00 -
[517] - Quote
Buzzing Mittanigrad then having tengus pop out is more exciting that getting big ISK kills in a fleet.
You know eventually these guys are going to be trained up for bombers.
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Onictus
Silver Snake Enterprise Fatal Ascension
297
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Posted - 2013.07.14 06:32:00 -
[518] - Quote
Herzog Wolfhammer wrote:Buzzing Mittanigrad then having tengus pop out is more exciting that getting big ISK kills in a fleet.
You know eventually these guys are going to be trained up for bombers.
Killing cyno ships? Really? |
Herzog Wolfhammer
Sigma Special Tactics Group
3079
|
Posted - 2013.07.14 07:10:00 -
[519] - Quote
Onictus wrote:Herzog Wolfhammer wrote:Buzzing Mittanigrad then having tengus pop out is more exciting that getting big ISK kills in a fleet.
You know eventually these guys are going to be trained up for bombers.
Killing cyno ships? Really?
We gotta kill something. There's guns on these ships it would be a crime not to use them. |
Ragnarok vs-Goons Ragnarok
State War Academy Caldari State
4
|
Posted - 2013.07.14 13:11:00 -
[520] - Quote
Harry Forever wrote:Onictus wrote: Don't look at my killboard then, 280 mil is like one kill.
yet more people are interested in my cyno-kills, bummer huh? Hope i can bring you more suport,hawe posted this link in local chat and will keep doing it if you dont minde.so fare i hawent recived anny kill mail,and no more donation.so if all i do giving you more suport thats good to.and 1 more thing you shud always put up the ingame name on the shannel your jusing evry time you make a new post. |
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Harry Forever
SpaceJunkys
362
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Posted - 2013.07.14 13:24:00 -
[521] - Quote
Ragnarok vs-Goons Ragnarok wrote:Harry Forever wrote:Onictus wrote: Don't look at my killboard then, 280 mil is like one kill.
yet more people are interested in my cyno-kills, bummer huh? Hope i can bring you more suport,hawe posted this link in local chat and will keep doing it if you dont minde.so fare i haw nott recived anny kill mail,and no more donation.so if all i do giving you more suport thats good to.and 1 more thing you shud always put up the ingame name on the shannel your jusing evry time you make a new post.
I already told you that you should stop using my thread to scam people, you sure are a very intelligent person who can bring much more content to the game differently OMG! the asteroid is depleted! |
Ragnarok vs-Goons Ragnarok
State War Academy Caldari State
4
|
Posted - 2013.07.14 14:00:00 -
[522] - Quote
Harry Forever wrote:Ragnarok vs-Goons Ragnarok wrote:Harry Forever wrote:Onictus wrote: Don't look at my killboard then, 280 mil is like one kill.
yet more people are interested in my cyno-kills, bummer huh? Hope i can bring you more suport,hawe posted this link in local chat and will keep doing it if you dont minde.so fare i haw nott recived anny kill mail,and no more donation.so if all i do giving you more suport thats good to.and 1 more thing you shud always put up the ingame name on the shannel your jusing evry time you make a new post. yea waste your time with that silly scam your trying, very smart idea, two thumbs up you are the greatest support I ever dreamed of, honestly you are the main reason I play EvE stalking scammers that is what the game needs, you really bring the fun, thanks for that your replay make me wonder if your nott just a goon,you newer trayed to send a kill mail i hawe 1 milliard isk to giwe away and no donation needed to recive reward. |
Khergit Deserters
Estel Arador Corp Services
1336
|
Posted - 2013.07.14 14:08:00 -
[523] - Quote
Ragnarok, bring a ship to VFK. Nobody will doubt you if you're shooting Goons. Besides, we're having lots of fun there. |
Harry Forever
SpaceJunkys
362
|
Posted - 2013.07.14 14:12:00 -
[524] - Quote
Ragnarok vs-Goons Ragnarok wrote:Harry Forever wrote:Ragnarok vs-Goons Ragnarok wrote:Harry Forever wrote:Onictus wrote: Don't look at my killboard then, 280 mil is like one kill.
yet more people are interested in my cyno-kills, bummer huh? Hope i can bring you more suport,hawe posted this link in local chat and will keep doing it if you dont minde.so fare i haw nott recived anny kill mail,and no more donation.so if all i do giving you more suport thats good to.and 1 more thing you shud always put up the ingame name on the shannel your jusing evry time you make a new post. yea waste your time with that silly scam your trying, very smart idea, two thumbs up you are the greatest support I ever dreamed of, honestly you are the main reason I play EvE stalking scammers that is what the game needs, you really bring the fun, thanks for that your replay make me wonder if your nott just a goon,you newer trayed to send a kill mail i hawe 1 milliard isk to giwe away and no donation needed to recive reward.
I already told you that you should stop using my thread to scam people, you sure are a very intelligent person who can bring much more content to the game differently OMG! the asteroid is depleted! |
Harry Forever
SpaceJunkys
362
|
Posted - 2013.07.14 14:12:00 -
[525] - Quote
after cloaked up cynos and cyno traps the goons are bringing new wartactics to the battlefied, selfdestruct of cynos... this technique was developed behind closed doors for the last 2 weeks, special training classes where held and now brougght to VFK
all carebears need to watch this ruthless killing of capital, only to be seen in VFK OMG! the asteroid is depleted! |
Ragnarok vs-Goons Ragnarok
State War Academy Caldari State
4
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Posted - 2013.07.14 14:15:00 -
[526] - Quote
i nowe think this tred is a goon ploy to miscredite anny real atempt at getting at them,hi who control information wins the war. |
Harry Forever
SpaceJunkys
362
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Posted - 2013.07.14 14:26:00 -
[527] - Quote
Ragnarok vs-Goons Ragnarok wrote:i nowe think this tred is a goon ploy to miscredite anny real atempt at getting at them,hi who control information wins the war.
tho phuny, rearey OMG! the asteroid is depleted! |
Aiwha
Infinite Point Nulli Secunda
525
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Posted - 2013.07.14 14:42:00 -
[528] - Quote
Ragnarok vs-Goons Ragnarok wrote:i nowe think this tred is a goon ploy to miscredite anny real atempt at getting at them,hi who control information wins the war.
Not really. If that was the case goons would have won by now. He who shows up to timers wins the war. Goons have difficulty with that. Lock up your staions and hide your daughters.
Nulli incoming |
soldieroffortune 258
No-Mercy Spaceship Samurai
9
|
Posted - 2013.07.14 14:53:00 -
[529] - Quote
https://twitter.com/geistreiches/status/351352011389816832/photo/1
Is that a Rifter with Blasters? |
Elizabeth Aideron
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
95
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Posted - 2013.07.14 14:57:00 -
[530] - Quote
Aiwha wrote:Ragnarok vs-Goons Ragnarok wrote:i nowe think this tred is a goon ploy to miscredite anny real atempt at getting at them,hi who control information wins the war. Not really. If that was the case goons would have won by now. He who shows up to timers wins the war. Goons have difficulty with that.
http://eve-kill.net/?a=kill_detail&kll_id=18750107 |
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Harry Forever
SpaceJunkys
362
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Posted - 2013.07.14 15:02:00 -
[531] - Quote
soldieroffortune 258 wrote:
I have seen hounds making cynos, VFK is a strange place OMG! the asteroid is depleted! |
Atreides 47
Atreides of Arrakis
8
|
Posted - 2013.07.14 20:55:00 -
[532] - Quote
So you foolishly think that carebears can do anything except feeding Goonswarm with wrecks ? What a joke of a goon's agent. Long Live the Fighters ! |
Herzog Wolfhammer
Sigma Special Tactics Group
3082
|
Posted - 2013.07.15 00:27:00 -
[533] - Quote
I don't care what anybody says, this is the most fun I have had since the Sansha live events.
Now I'm trying to train up a PVP alt with maximized effect with as little SP as possible (cheap clones you see), just like so many forum posts that I have seen saying that people should do just that.
Of course it would be kinda wrong to have over 70 million SP and be telling noobs with less than a few million to do this. But who knows what I'll do.
Simply put, what I am doing now, after 7 years in the game, is what I should have done had there been proper guidance. There was no guidance, and the propaganda and false paradigms of "the way nullsec works" is what channels people into these ruts where they think they need tons of SP and ISK to 'go to null' or 'get started in PVP' - the usual cliche we see all of the time in the forums and corporation chat.
Yes it's nice to be a skillhore (I can't stand those little green check marks) that can do a lot of things, but that's not the design of the SP system.
Whoever it was that set up these lies, knew beforehand they could conquer the game not by waging war of attrition but by putting the minds of other players in a cage.
When we consider this, we have to look into how nullsec was conquered: by selling the same carebearism on which highsec is blamed for being the scourge of all things Eve. This is why there are carebears on both sides of the "Great Wall of Carebear".
And this is why nullsec is set up for more epic butthurt than any "Hulkageddon" or "Burn Jita" event ever devised.
Because if highsec allied loosely enough not to be decced and noob-harvested, and simply did what is being recommended in this thread, it would be an exercise in the sort of asymmetric warfare that has broken many real world armies in the past.
But all warfare is economic, you see. When you are in a Rifter with say, 6 million ISK invested, and someone who went to nullsec to run anoms in their Tengu has to chase you down, they might get you. But it takes time.
Now, in the time it takes to catch Mr Rifter and pod him back to highsec, how much ISK would you have made if you could have peacefully carebeared it up running anoms out there in nullsec?
That Rifter cost you way more than it did the person who was flying it.
And that person you podded will be back.
You wanna be a pirate? You wanna grief? You wanna gank? Why are you in highsec? Why are you camping in lowsec? Maybe you might drive a noob out of the game. So what. There will be more of them. If you don't drive the noob out, he'll know better than to end up in your gate camp again, or go AFK with that hauler. Then you'll be here, in these forums, complaining to CCP and asking for idiotic things to arbitrarily force other players into your camp.
Oh I know, you "gotta get your stats up" before some nullsec entity will recruit you becase some idiot says so. That idiot will see green or red and not see hapless noobs in rookie ships, haulers, etc. You might look leet to the stupid. To the rest of us who see through this crap, you look stupid. They put you in a little hamster wheel and you gleefully ran in it.
Fact is, you got told that highsec is "the problem" by the people who lord it up in nullsec and desperately want to maintain the paradigms that highsec is your enemy, that it's unfair, that they deserve to be griefed and ganked for being carebears.
If you fell for it, you were a tool. You were shooting the wrong people. Take a deep breath and admit you got fooled.
It does not matter one bit what "sandbox/litter box" play you foist on highsec because someone told you they have it too easy there. Like I said, you might drive a noob out of the game. Big deal.
But it does matter that, if the grief/gank thing is your speed, you can make a world of difference on nullsec. No, you won't die in a fire in two minutes, and if someone drops a cap blob on your destroyer group you already won.
But if you don't want targets that can shoot back, then at least admit it, and keep camping that gate in Amamake or Old Man Star in hope that some noob jumps in. We really laugh at those rookie ships and month-old pods on your killboards.
The best part of all of this is that because we are NOT playing station games and aggro fu (which many say they are forced to because CCP likes carebears or something) , because we did not fall for the lies of "you get ganked/hot dropped by the big alliance in 2 minutes!!!1!! run!!! Marsha Marsha Marsha!!!!" , we are actually getting 1on1 fights and small gang fights.
Yes, these "holy grails" of PVP that everybody complains they can't get any more. I had a nice Rifter versus Corax (died) and Breacher versus Rifter (ran off with a boatload of adrenalin) encounter in this endeavor, and then nearly got trapped at Mittanigrad but careful SS positioning saved the day. Not bad for a noob character with no cloak (seriously guys, those Sisters Combat probes are wasted on you - do you want me to teach you how to use them?) . I expect to die. This is Eve: expect to die.
It's not the mechanics of the game, it's not CCP trying to turn Eve into "WoW in space", it's the lies, the false paradigms, of "how nullsec works". It's the impressions that "he who has the most ISK wins". It's this "Eve is all about doing X, Y, Z and profit? and any deviation is fail".
Bullshit.
Get a ship, get out there. Shoot. I am watching both noobs with less than 5M SP and experienced players with expensive rigs (Russians, by the way - they actually do PVP of the sort with "P" on both sides of "V" and are adults about it) getting into some great fights. Some win, some lose. It's a game after all, so let's start acting like it. |
Onictus
Silver Snake Enterprise Fatal Ascension
297
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Posted - 2013.07.15 03:04:00 -
[534] - Quote
Aiwha wrote:Ragnarok vs-Goons Ragnarok wrote:i nowe think this tred is a goon ploy to miscredite anny real atempt at getting at them,hi who control information wins the war. Not really. If that was the case goons would have won by now. He who shows up to timers wins the war. Goons have difficulty with that.
Yeah, you keep setting timers for 4am EDT.......people have jobs and ****. |
Onictus
Silver Snake Enterprise Fatal Ascension
297
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Posted - 2013.07.15 03:07:00 -
[535] - Quote
Herzog Wolfhammer wrote:I amazingly long sperg
Where do you come up with this noise? Hi sec people can't even run incursions without tons of drama.
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Herzog Wolfhammer
Sigma Special Tactics Group
3083
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Posted - 2013.07.15 03:24:00 -
[536] - Quote
Onictus wrote:Herzog Wolfhammer wrote:I amazingly long sperg Where do you come up with this noise? Hi sec people can't even run incursions without tons of drama.
I'm not a big fan of the monetized and leet'ed up incursion thing, but note that they don't make the mistake of calling it "emergent gaming".
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Onictus
Silver Snake Enterprise Fatal Ascension
297
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Posted - 2013.07.15 03:36:00 -
[537] - Quote
Herzog Wolfhammer wrote:Onictus wrote:Herzog Wolfhammer wrote:I amazingly long sperg Where do you come up with this noise? Hi sec people can't even run incursions without tons of drama. I'm not a big fan of the monetized and leet'ed up incursion thing, but note that they don't make the mistake of calling it "emergent gaming".
I dabbled in incursions a bit both before and after the vangaurd nerf.....it made null sec drama seem tame |
Alavaria Fera
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
3845
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Posted - 2013.07.15 03:55:00 -
[538] - Quote
Onictus wrote:Aiwha wrote:Ragnarok vs-Goons Ragnarok wrote:i nowe think this tred is a goon ploy to miscredite anny real atempt at getting at them,hi who control information wins the war. Not really. If that was the case goons would have won by now. He who shows up to timers wins the war. Goons have difficulty with that. Yeah, you keep setting timers for 4am EDT.......people have jobs and ****. Our morale is dropping when we wake up and discover half a dozen timers disappeared to TEST's NC. brigade. There are no goons. The goons' 0.0 dream is over. Fountain will never fall. Deklein by September. Thought is not heresy, wrong thought is.
PL, NC., N3, Tribe, 401k, you are our only hope ! ~TEST2013 |
Ace Uoweme
Republic Military School Minmatar Republic
454
|
Posted - 2013.07.15 06:42:00 -
[539] - Quote
Onictus wrote:Herzog Wolfhammer wrote:I amazingly long sperg Where do you come up with this noise? Hi sec people can't even run incursions without tons of drama.
Every time there's leet gear players bring drama. It's why the newer PuRs in WoW don't have group loot anymore. They all get a goodie bag, and roll against themselves for loot now -- and look mom, no more ninjas too (a mechanic LONG needed in MMOs, as the loot dramas are ridiculous)! "In a world of universal deceit, telling the truth is a revolutionary act." ~George Orwell
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Ace Uoweme
Republic Military School Minmatar Republic
454
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Posted - 2013.07.15 06:49:00 -
[540] - Quote
Herzog Wolfhammer wrote:]Because if highsec allied loosely enough not to be decced and noob-harvested, and simply did what is being recommended in this thread, it would be an exercise in the sort of asymmetric warfare that has broken many real world armies in the past.
That's not even needed.
To defeat the Goons is quite simple, but PvPers will do what PvPers naturally do -- not think things out.
Goons are heavily PvE based. Shooting down their ships won't matter. Got to shut the faucet off.
But no one is doing that, which is the most ironic thing about this "war". It's go with the motions of a war, but don't fight to win...just drain resources. "In a world of universal deceit, telling the truth is a revolutionary act." ~George Orwell
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Joepopo
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
78
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Posted - 2013.07.15 07:51:00 -
[541] - Quote
Ace Uoweme wrote:Herzog Wolfhammer wrote:]Because if highsec allied loosely enough not to be decced and noob-harvested, and simply did what is being recommended in this thread, it would be an exercise in the sort of asymmetric warfare that has broken many real world armies in the past. That's not even needed. To defeat the Goons is quite simple, but PvPers will do what PvPers naturally do -- not think things out. Goons are heavily PvE based. Shooting down their ships won't matter. Got to shut the faucet off. But no one is doing that, which is the most ironic thing about this "war". It's go with the motions of a war, but don't fight to win...just drain resources.
This plan is beautiful for its simplicity and suffers no loophole. Not even FW mission, empire mission, empire trading, null sec trading, moon mining/reacting, BP searching, capital ship production wormhole colonization and/or scamming as a source of ISK. |
Harry Forever
SpaceJunkys
371
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Posted - 2013.07.15 08:13:00 -
[542] - Quote
the big problems with the goons posting here is that they get teached to do what they get told, therefore their brainwashed minds can not understand somebody who does the complete opposite, they keep telling us where to go and what fit we need to use, exactly how they where told as well
some getting real angry that we do not listen, acting exactly like their leaders, they tell us for hours shooting cynoships is sensless but at the same point start protecting those ships, setting up traps with cynos ships and even self destruct those ships, they act already more on your doing then we care for their advices
phase 2 of this goonageddon soon will kick in... they alread lost the first round, hope they do better in the second OMG! the asteroid is depleted! |
WASPY69
Papercut Syndicate Nuclear Arms Exchange
17
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Posted - 2013.07.15 14:08:00 -
[543] - Quote
I chuckled a little reading this. On a serious note though, I think it's a great idea, since what will happen is you will run into bubbles and lose your slave clones. And if you somehow manage to get into a fight where you don't get blapped to dust, you will finally experience pvp, experience the best part of EVE. So, I approve of this. Get out of your officer fit navy ravens and fit up a T1 pvp ship and have fun! |
Ace Uoweme
Republic Military School Minmatar Republic
456
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Posted - 2013.07.15 14:20:00 -
[544] - Quote
Joepopo wrote:This plan is beautiful for its simplicity and suffers no loophole. Not even FW mission, empire mission, empire trading, null sec trading, moon mining/reacting, BP searching, capital ship production wormhole colonization and/or scamming as a source of ISK.
It's not the ISK. It's the resources, because they can't be bought.
The emperor wears no clothes, and very weak due to it.
To kill off the Goons is quite simple: shut the faucet off in what they can't buy, and that's the resources itself.
Save the time and dime playing patty cake, and go for the jugular.
And now folks can see why there's so much activity in high-sec. Goons have to control the flow of resources to win.
Nothing novel. Standard warfare. Can just take Rommel's push through Africa as a blueprint...it's the oil stupid. "In a world of universal deceit, telling the truth is a revolutionary act." ~George Orwell
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Khergit Deserters
Crom's Angels
1339
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Posted - 2013.07.15 15:55:00 -
[545] - Quote
Herzog Wolfhammer wrote: But all warfare is economic, you see....
When you are in a Rifter with say, 6 million ISK invested, and someone who went to nullsec to run anoms in their Tengu has to chase you down, they might get you. But it takes time. Now, in the time it takes to catch Mr Rifter and pod him back to highsec, how much ISK would you have made if you could have peacefully carebeared it up running anoms out there in nullsec?
That Rifter cost you way more than it did the person who was flying it. And that person you podded will be back. ^ Quoting, in case people missed this point. Whenever you're spending your time not making isk or in a fleet, we're winning. Like you're doing now in VFK, with guys guarding the station and trying to bait and set up traps.
There are an infinite number of things we can do to harrass you and make you inefficient, on an individual basis. Frustrate you, make you fail at some little thing, make you get screamed down by your Goon superiors. Make you waste your isk-earning time doing unproductive things. You guys saying "Ha ha, keep killing the cyno frigs" are completely missing the point. But that's OK-- keep at it boys. We don't mind. |
Ginger Barbarella
Caldari Provisions Caldari State
1418
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Posted - 2013.07.15 16:13:00 -
[546] - Quote
Failposter alt detected... "Blow it all on Quafe and strippers." --- Sorlac |
Joepopo
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
79
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Posted - 2013.07.16 00:23:00 -
[547] - Quote
Ace Uoweme wrote: It's not the ISK. It's the resources, because they can't be bought.
Yeah, I think we took the resources with us in Fountain for safekeeping. |
Ace Uoweme
Republic Military School Minmatar Republic
464
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Posted - 2013.07.16 00:50:00 -
[548] - Quote
Joepopo wrote:Ace Uoweme wrote: It's not the ISK. It's the resources, because they can't be bought.
Yeah, I think we took the resources with us in Fountain for safekeeping.
As long as you're dependent on the mat faucet, you'll always be vulnerable due to it.
Can't have those fancy ships without it, and ISK alone isn't going to buy them out of thin air.
What's your game? "In a world of universal deceit, telling the truth is a revolutionary act." ~George Orwell
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Gods Prophet
Viziam Amarr Empire
8
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Posted - 2013.07.16 01:02:00 -
[549] - Quote
Khergit Deserters wrote:[quote=Herzog Wolfhammer] There are an infinite number of things we can do to harrass you and make you inefficient, on an individual basis. Frustrate you, make you fail at some little thing, make you get screamed down by your Goon superiors..
This. I cant imagine the ass chewing those goons on the gate got when my little ship carrying the body I stole jumped back thru and made it out of their trap. I bet they still can sit down without wincing. :)
I got the body back btw. In all its rotten, smelly glory. Its hanging on my wall, center stage, in pride of place. If I contract it The Mittani for a billion isk you think he would buy it? Nah, he doesnt care about dead goons. Thats what your supposed to be to him.
For anyone reading this, get in your ship and join us. Harry and team are blowing up goon ships IN FRONT OF MITTANIGRAD. Im stealing bodies off their doorstep. And this isnt even the beginning. Do it because its the right thing to do. Do it because its emergent. Do it for the lulz. :) |
Joepopo
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
79
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Posted - 2013.07.16 01:08:00 -
[550] - Quote
Gods Prophet wrote:Do it because its the right thing to do. Do it because its emergent. Do it for the lulz. :)
Admit, it is for RP. |
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Harry Forever
SpaceJunkys
378
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Posted - 2013.07.16 06:36:00 -
[551] - Quote
Gods Prophet wrote:Khergit Deserters wrote:[quote=Herzog Wolfhammer] There are an infinite number of things we can do to harrass you and make you inefficient, on an individual basis. Frustrate you, make you fail at some little thing, make you get screamed down by your Goon superiors.. This. I cant imagine the ass chewing those goons on the gate got when my little ship carrying the body I stole jumped back thru and made it out of their trap. I bet they still can sit down without wincing. :) I got the body back btw. In all its rotten, smelly glory. Its hanging on my wall, center stage, in pride of place. If I contract it The Mittani for a billion isk you think he would buy it? Nah, he doesnt care about dead goons. Thats what your supposed to be to him. For anyone reading this, get in your ship and join us. Harry and team are blowing up goon ships IN FRONT OF MITTANIGRAD. Im stealing bodies off their doorstep. And this isnt even the beginning. Do it because its the right thing to do. Do it because its emergent. Do it for the lulz. :)
nice logistical masterpiece, no goon will feel safe in his clone anymore, knowing they might endup on your wall when they die!
your post also brought up another idea, maybe i should start contracting some cynos over to mittani, never do i want to end the supply of those nice sparkling lights everybody cares so much in goonland... OMG! the asteroid is depleted! |
Herzog Wolfhammer
Sigma Special Tactics Group
3094
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Posted - 2013.07.16 07:02:00 -
[552] - Quote
Why are the cyno ships being SD'ed?
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Ace Uoweme
Republic Military School Minmatar Republic
466
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Posted - 2013.07.16 09:02:00 -
[553] - Quote
Harry Forever wrote:your post also brought up another idea, maybe i should start contracting some cynos over to mittani, never do i want to end the supply of those nice sparkling lights everybody cares so much about in goonland...
Just kill Mitt, then auction off his body.
I'm sure there will be someone who'd love to buy his corpse to do vile things with. "In a world of universal deceit, telling the truth is a revolutionary act." ~George Orwell
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Harry Forever
SpaceJunkys
378
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Posted - 2013.07.16 09:19:00 -
[554] - Quote
Ace Uoweme wrote:Harry Forever wrote:your post also brought up another idea, maybe i should start contracting some cynos over to mittani, never do i want to end the supply of those nice sparkling lights everybody cares so much about in goonland... Just kill Mitt, then auction off his body. I'm sure there will be someone who'd love to buy his corpse to do vile things with.
nice one! :D 10 million for the guy who brings me Mittanis corpse! please contract it over to me or my corp! OMG! the asteroid is depleted! |
OldWolf69
IR0N. SpaceMonkey's Alliance
63
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Posted - 2013.07.16 11:23:00 -
[555] - Quote
Lol, Harry. Tought you occupied VFK already. |
Harry Forever
SpaceJunkys
379
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Posted - 2013.07.16 12:19:00 -
[556] - Quote
OldWolf69 wrote:Lol, Harry. Tought you occupied VFK already.
I am, I am, but i feel lonely, need more people there
going around highsec now to spread the word OMG! the asteroid is depleted! |
Alavaria Fera
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
3845
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Posted - 2013.07.16 12:56:00 -
[557] - Quote
Joepopo wrote:Ace Uoweme wrote:Herzog Wolfhammer wrote:]Because if highsec allied loosely enough not to be decced and noob-harvested, and simply did what is being recommended in this thread, it would be an exercise in the sort of asymmetric warfare that has broken many real world armies in the past. That's not even needed. To defeat the Goons is quite simple, but PvPers will do what PvPers naturally do -- not think things out. Goons are heavily PvE based. Shooting down their ships won't matter. Got to shut the faucet off. But no one is doing that, which is the most ironic thing about this "war". It's go with the motions of a war, but don't fight to win...just drain resources. This plan is beautiful for its simplicity and suffers no loophole. Not even FW mission, empire mission, empire trading, null sec trading, moon mining/reacting, BP searching, capital ship production wormhole colonization and/or scamming as a source of ISK. I don't really get it, but basically I should avoid jumping ships into VFK because NOT ONLY BL is camping it with machs, but now there's some guys shooting cynoships on the undock or something? There are no goons. The goons' 0.0 dream is over. Fountain will never fall. Deklein by September. Thought is not heresy, wrong thought is.
PL, NC., N3, Tribe, 401k, you are our only hope ! ~TEST2013 |
Harry Forever
SpaceJunkys
380
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Posted - 2013.07.16 14:13:00 -
[558] - Quote
Alavaria Fera wrote:Joepopo wrote:Ace Uoweme wrote:Herzog Wolfhammer wrote:]Because if highsec allied loosely enough not to be decced and noob-harvested, and simply did what is being recommended in this thread, it would be an exercise in the sort of asymmetric warfare that has broken many real world armies in the past. That's not even needed. To defeat the Goons is quite simple, but PvPers will do what PvPers naturally do -- not think things out. Goons are heavily PvE based. Shooting down their ships won't matter. Got to shut the faucet off. But no one is doing that, which is the most ironic thing about this "war". It's go with the motions of a war, but don't fight to win...just drain resources. This plan is beautiful for its simplicity and suffers no loophole. Not even FW mission, empire mission, empire trading, null sec trading, moon mining/reacting, BP searching, capital ship production wormhole colonization and/or scamming as a source of ISK. I don't really get it, but basically I should avoid jumping ships into VFK because NOT ONLY BL is camping it with machs, but now there's some guys shooting cynoships on the undock or something?
and you are lost, not beeing able to do anything about it, soon thousands of ships will be cloaked up there, shooting bombs to welcome you, you are blindfolded, just got a big mouth and nothing is behind
one guy (big mouth goonbuddy number 2343) some weeks ago told me I should come to VFK you are waiting, I did, nothing happend, except me shooting 40 of your supporting ships, another guy (goonbuddy 3478) told me you are blacklisted by the goons ask others how screwed you are, again nothing happened, went mining in highsec was waiting for one of you to showup, zero consequences, boring! all just talk nothing behind it, you guys are just living from your trashtalk and probably hit F1 when your leaders tell you. OMG! the asteroid is depleted! |
Harry Forever
SpaceJunkys
380
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Posted - 2013.07.16 14:40:00 -
[559] - Quote
the goon leadership should seriously look into throwing out at least two third of their people, they just let everybody in their alliance, I don't get it, if i would lead that force of douchebags i would go crazy, thats no elite force thats just a blob of braindead zombies OMG! the asteroid is depleted! |
silens vesica
Corsair Cartel
1982
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Posted - 2013.07.16 15:12:00 -
[560] - Quote
Harry Forever wrote:the goon leadership should seriously look into throwing out at least two third of their people, they just let everybody in their alliance, I don't get it, if i would lead that force of douchebags i would go crazy, thats no elite force, thats just a blob of braindead zombies Quantity has a quality all its own... Tell someone you love them today, because life is short. But scream it at them in Esperanto, because life is also terrifying and confusing.
Didn't vote? Then you voted for NulBloc |
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Ustrello
Amok. Goonswarm Federation
121
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Posted - 2013.07.16 15:34:00 -
[561] - Quote
Harry Forever wrote:the goon leadership should seriously look into throwing out at least two third of their people, they just let everybody in their alliance, I don't get it, if i would lead that force of douchebags i would go crazy, thats no elite force, thats just a blob of braindead zombies
Oh the irony |
Herzog Wolfhammer
Sigma Special Tactics Group
3095
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Posted - 2013.07.16 15:43:00 -
[562] - Quote
Zombies? More like goblins.
Rare footage from deep in Mittanigrad |
Harry Forever
SpaceJunkys
387
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Posted - 2013.07.16 17:40:00 -
[563] - Quote
god those goons, they would **** their skirts if they would do what we do here, if they don't have a ship 2 classes bigger then mine they flee in panic, or just come with 10 of their friends, hiding in a blob thats the big deal right... go you hardcore buddys fly into TEST main hub and shoot down some cynos on your own, but don't get a heart attack when 3 to 5 ships suddenly uncloak and chase you like a mad man... just big words... without your free ships and 10 vs. 1 ratio in a fight you are nothing, 90% of you are mindless puppets
I recommend all goon leaders shoot those undead within your rank and start from scratch, maybe you are up to something meaningful after that
Goons Doomsday would be ideal to press the reset button, do it if you got the balls. OMG! the asteroid is depleted! |
Khergit Deserters
Crom's Angels
1348
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Posted - 2013.07.16 18:57:00 -
[564] - Quote
Ustrello wrote:Harry Forever wrote:the goon leadership should seriously look into throwing out at least two third of their people, they just let everybody in their alliance, I don't get it, if i would lead that force of douchebags i would go crazy, thats no elite force, thats just a blob of braindead zombies Oh the irony ... The idea of posting is you either put up some content or some humor, or possibly both. To be any good, it should be of interest to the members of that particular forum community. FYI, the average age of this particular community is 28. |
Ustrello
Amok. Goonswarm Federation
121
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Posted - 2013.07.16 19:25:00 -
[565] - Quote
Khergit Deserters wrote:Ustrello wrote:Harry Forever wrote:the goon leadership should seriously look into throwing out at least two third of their people, they just let everybody in their alliance, I don't get it, if i would lead that force of douchebags i would go crazy, thats no elite force, thats just a blob of braindead zombies Oh the irony ... The idea of posting is you either put up some content or some humor, or possibly both. To be any good, it should be of interest to the members of that particular forum community. FYI, the average age of this particular community is 28.
That literally made no sense in the context of my response or even his sperging. |
Herzog Wolfhammer
Sigma Special Tactics Group
3097
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Posted - 2013.07.16 19:38:00 -
[566] - Quote
Khergit Deserters wrote:Ustrello wrote:Harry Forever wrote:the goon leadership should seriously look into throwing out at least two third of their people, they just let everybody in their alliance, I don't get it, if i would lead that force of douchebags i would go crazy, thats no elite force, thats just a blob of braindead zombies Oh the irony ... The idea of posting is you either put up some content or some humor, or possibly both. To be any good, it should be of interest to the members of that particular forum community. FYI, the average age of this particular community is 28.
Good God I'm almost a generation ahead of the average age.
When we are going to get these goon whippersnappers off my lawn?
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Joepopo
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
84
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Posted - 2013.07.16 21:10:00 -
[567] - Quote
Khergit Deserters wrote:Ustrello wrote:Harry Forever wrote:the goon leadership should seriously look into throwing out at least two third of their people, they just let everybody in their alliance, I don't get it, if i would lead that force of douchebags i would go crazy, thats no elite force, thats just a blob of braindead zombies Oh the irony ... The idea of posting is you either put up some content or some humor, or possibly both. To be any good, it should be of interest to the members of that particular forum community. FYI, the average age of this particular community is 28.
Ustrello post was good. Goonswarm is a very close community with strict acceptation rules.
Your post was bad and consisted of a blind bashing of the guy, probably on based on the fact that he is in Amok. .
This is bad, bad, bad. You should read the post, not only the alliance before writing something. |
Alavaria Fera
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
3845
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Posted - 2013.07.16 21:15:00 -
[568] - Quote
Joepopo wrote:Khergit Deserters wrote:Ustrello wrote:Harry Forever wrote:the goon leadership should seriously look into throwing out at least two third of their people, they just let everybody in their alliance, I don't get it, if i would lead that force of douchebags i would go crazy, thats no elite force, thats just a blob of braindead zombies Oh the irony ... The idea of posting is you either put up some content or some humor, or possibly both. To be any good, it should be of interest to the members of that particular forum community. FYI, the average age of this particular community is 28. Ustrello post was good. Goonswarm is a very close community with strict acceptation rules. Your post was bad and consisted of a blind bashing of the guy, probably on based on the fact that he is in Amok. . This is bad, bad, bad. You should read the post, not only the alliance before writing something. Didn't we just purge a bunch of inactives?
Though I think what he means is that when a newbee accidentally forgets to turn off their propmod or bumps something or jumps through a red gate that we should kick them. ~elitepvp2013
A newbee from SA is about as low in the skill level of eve as it gets. Except maybe people who have learned terrible habits and can't unlearn them I guess. There are no goons. The goons' 0.0 dream is over. Fountain will never fall. Deklein by September. Thought is not heresy, wrong thought is.
PL, NC., N3, Tribe, 401k, you are our only hope ! ~TEST2013 |
Alavaria Fera
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
3845
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Posted - 2013.07.16 21:16:00 -
[569] - Quote
Ustrello wrote:Khergit Deserters wrote:Ustrello wrote:Harry Forever wrote:the goon leadership should seriously look into throwing out at least two third of their people, they just let everybody in their alliance, I don't get it, if i would lead that force of douchebags i would go crazy, thats no elite force, thats just a blob of braindead zombies Oh the irony ... The idea of posting is you either put up some content or some humor, or possibly both. To be any good, it should be of interest to the members of that particular forum community. FYI, the average age of this particular community is 28. That literally made no sense in the context of my response or even his sperging. This is the thing. There -are- posters even worse than the ones that get set read-only by Deadtear on our secret goonfleetdotcom forums.
There are a lot of them here. There are no goons. The goons' 0.0 dream is over. Fountain will never fall. Deklein by September. Thought is not heresy, wrong thought is.
PL, NC., N3, Tribe, 401k, you are our only hope ! ~TEST2013 |
Ace Uoweme
Republic Military School Minmatar Republic
471
|
Posted - 2013.07.17 01:02:00 -
[570] - Quote
Herzog Wolfhammer wrote:Khergit Deserters wrote:Ustrello wrote:Harry Forever wrote:the goon leadership should seriously look into throwing out at least two third of their people, they just let everybody in their alliance, I don't get it, if i would lead that force of douchebags i would go crazy, thats no elite force, thats just a blob of braindead zombies Oh the irony ... The idea of posting is you either put up some content or some humor, or possibly both. To be any good, it should be of interest to the members of that particular forum community. FYI, the average age of this particular community is 28. Good God I'm almost a generation ahead of the average age. When we are going to get these goon whippersnappers off my lawn?
I am.
Why I feel like a Den mom in these games now!
"In a world of universal deceit, telling the truth is a revolutionary act." ~George Orwell
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Harry Forever
SpaceJunkys
389
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Posted - 2013.07.17 07:40:00 -
[571] - Quote
Joepopo wrote:Khergit Deserters wrote:Ustrello wrote:Harry Forever wrote:the goon leadership should seriously look into throwing out at least two third of their people, they just let everybody in their alliance, I don't get it, if i would lead that force of douchebags i would go crazy, thats no elite force, thats just a blob of braindead zombies Oh the irony ... The idea of posting is you either put up some content or some humor, or possibly both. To be any good, it should be of interest to the members of that particular forum community. FYI, the average age of this particular community is 28. Ustrello post was good. Goonswarm is a very close community with strict acceptation rules. Your post was bad and consisted of a blind bashing of the guy, probably on based on the fact that he is in Amok. . This is bad, bad, bad. You should read the post, not only the alliance before writing something.
you are a close community? check the numbers again, you are the most open one, heck you even sent me an invite to join after I started bombing your cynos do you remember? OMG! the asteroid is depleted! |
Joepopo
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
87
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Posted - 2013.07.17 09:19:00 -
[572] - Quote
Harry Forever wrote:you are a close community? check the numbers again, you are the most open one, heck you even sent me an invite to join after I started bombing your cynos do you remember?
Your case is different. You are a talented PvP artist and we need those (to balance the mindless grunt). People such as you could become FC or community leaders.
The offer still stands, and the directorate agrees to give you a discount on the registration fees given that you're a young player. |
Harry Forever
SpaceJunkys
391
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Posted - 2013.07.17 09:45:00 -
[573] - Quote
Joepopo wrote:Harry Forever wrote:you are a close community? check the numbers again, you are the most open one, heck you even sent me an invite to join after I started bombing your cynos do you remember? Your case is different. You are a talented PvP artist and we need those (to balance the mindless grunt). People such as you could become FC or community leaders. The offer still stands, and the directorate agrees to give you a discount on the registration fees given that you're a young player.
PvP artist, I like that OMG! the asteroid is depleted! |
Sol Kal'orr
TLSG
17
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Posted - 2013.07.17 11:45:00 -
[574] - Quote
You are all using angry words. Please stop, because I have news!
I took up the call again.
Mad Ani was Twitchin' like he does. I saw the fight in 9-V. I flew there.
Yes, I took it to the front-lines.
My Slasher arrived in 9-V and killed a Claw! Take that SMA! Take that CFC!
We can do this!
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Joepopo
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
88
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Posted - 2013.07.17 13:08:00 -
[575] - Quote
Sol Kal'orr wrote:You are all using angry words. Please stop, because I have news!
I took up the call again.
Mad Ani was Twitchin' like he does. I saw the fight in 9-V. I flew there.
Yes, I took it to the front-lines.
My Slasher arrived in 9-V and killed a Claw! Take that SMA! Take that CFC!
We can do this!
confirmed by killboard: http://eve-kill.net/?a=kill_detail&kll_id=18790135
The whole fight: http://eve-kill.net/?a=kill_related&kll_id=18790135
The killboard says 12B lost for CFC.
I hope you had a good time there, Sol.
Meanwhile Harry killed 40 cyno ships in VFK. |
Sol Kal'orr
TLSG
17
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Posted - 2013.07.17 13:33:00 -
[576] - Quote
Wait, what? So I haven't turned the tide in the war?! |
Joepopo
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
89
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Posted - 2013.07.17 13:34:00 -
[577] - Quote
Sol Kal'orr wrote:Wait, what? So I haven't turned the tide in the war?!
It is not exactly what I meant.
I meant that you ve been part of a fight more important than whatever has happened last two weeks in VFK. |
Harry Forever
SpaceJunkys
391
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Posted - 2013.07.17 13:52:00 -
[578] - Quote
Joepopo wrote: It is not exactly what I meant.
I meant that you ve been part of a fight more important than whatever has happened last two weeks in VFK.
its funny how hard you try to convice everybody... however your mindless ship blobbing in the fountain are is completely unimportant for me and the casual player, there is no story behind it, no heart, its just like the endless multiplayer killings in call of duty...
where is the thread everybody is discussing about? where is the drama, except some traitors killing their own ships... we here fight for freedom and provide the possibility for everybody to join, going to fountain you will just be either shot down by TEST or by Goons on the way, boring as hell if you ask me...
what does the fight in fountain area help the gamers, except making one of you two dinosaurs bigger? why should they care?
we are the only thing they care about, blasting your dinobrains to the wall :D OMG! the asteroid is depleted! |
Ace Uoweme
Republic Military School Minmatar Republic
472
|
Posted - 2013.07.17 14:00:00 -
[579] - Quote
Harry Forever wrote:its funny how hard you try to convice everybody... however your mindless ship blobbing in the fountain are is completely unimportant for me and the casual player, there is no story behind it, no heart, its just like the endless multiplayer killings in call of duty
^^This.^^
Just like heroic raiders in other games, what they do, their dramas and whatever has no bearing on the rest of the game. They could have 100 CSMs, they don't pay people to play their way.
That's the bottom line. "In a world of universal deceit, telling the truth is a revolutionary act." ~George Orwell
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Joepopo
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
89
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Posted - 2013.07.17 14:02:00 -
[580] - Quote
Harry Forever wrote:Joepopo wrote: It is not exactly what I meant.
I meant that you ve been part of a fight more important than whatever has happened last two weeks in VFK.
its funny how hard you try to convice everybody... however your mindless ship blobbing in the fountain are is completely unimportant for me and the casual player, there is no story behind it, no heart, its just like the endless multiplayer killings in call of duty... where is the thread everybody is discussing about? where is the drama, except some traitors killing their own ships... we here fight for freedom and provide the possibility for everybody to join, going to fountain you will just be either shot down by TEST or by Goons on the way, boring as hell if you ask me... what does the fight in fountain area help the gamers, except making one of you two dinosaurs bigger? why should they care? we are the only thing they care about, blasting your dinobrains to the wall :D
Don't ask me!
Ask sol if he had a good time, messing around in a capital fight, killing our full combat fitted tackling tech 2 frigates with a slasher in the middle of a 600 man brawl. |
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Harry Forever
SpaceJunkys
391
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Posted - 2013.07.17 14:22:00 -
[581] - Quote
Joepopo wrote:Harry Forever wrote:Joepopo wrote: It is not exactly what I meant.
I meant that you ve been part of a fight more important than whatever has happened last two weeks in VFK.
its funny how hard you try to convice everybody... however your mindless ship blobbing in the fountain are is completely unimportant for me and the casual player, there is no story behind it, no heart, its just like the endless multiplayer killings in call of duty... where is the thread everybody is discussing about? where is the drama, except some traitors killing their own ships... we here fight for freedom and provide the possibility for everybody to join, going to fountain you will just be either shot down by TEST or by Goons on the way, boring as hell if you ask me... what does the fight in fountain area help the gamers, except making one of you two dinosaurs bigger? why should they care? we are the only thing they care about, blasting your dinobrains to the wall :D Don't ask me! Ask sol if he had a good time, messing around in a capital fight, killing our full combat fitted tackling tech 2 frigates with a slasher in the middle of a 600 man brawl.
although it was a bold move and sure he had fun, it maybe just lasted a few seconds, I'm pretty sure I prefer sneaking up at mittanigrad, looking at your station cloaked up, figuring out my next move, jumping in getting the kill and vanish again, playing cat and mouse with your hunters who try to catch me, I like the tactical aspect of it, where else the blobbingparty in fountain sounds more like a hit F1 and wait until you die experience...
I will have a look someday, don't you worry, but trust me that, I'm pretty fine with what I'm doing right now, I enjoy it... but I get the feeling some goons do not enjoy their stuff so much, thats why they are so angry about the things I do here... and thats the reason they keep telling me, what they do is so much better... however I doubt it...
sure the ISK number is higher behind their kills, however I hardly believe they have more fun doing it... OMG! the asteroid is depleted! |
Khergit Deserters
Crom's Angels
1353
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Posted - 2013.07.17 14:36:00 -
[582] - Quote
Joepopo wrote:Khergit Deserters wrote:Ustrello wrote:Harry Forever wrote:the goon leadership should seriously look into throwing out at least two third of their people, they just let everybody in their alliance, I don't get it, if i would lead that force of douchebags i would go crazy, thats no elite force, thats just a blob of braindead zombies Oh the irony ... The idea of posting is you either put up some content or some humor, or possibly both. To be any good, it should be of interest to the members of that particular forum community. FYI, the average age of this particular community is 28. Ustrello post was good. Goonswarm is a very close community with strict acceptation rules. Your post was bad and consisted of a blind bashing of the guy, probably on based on the fact that he is in Amok. . This is bad, bad, bad. You should read the post, not only the alliance before writing something. OK, if you say so Joe. I didn't mean to blind bash Ustello, maybe I misunderstood what he was trying to say. Sorry.
As we say at Buzz Lightyear Star Command: Shoot the ship, not the player!
Another thing we say at Star Command: Keep on sending Goons to Goonhalla! |
Witchmaker
Garoun Investment Bank Gallente Federation
0
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Posted - 2013.07.17 18:21:00 -
[583] - Quote
Oh my why did I have to exit the CFC so soon...............Time to take a trip back to the motherland and shoot the cute little high sec carebears who are attempting to make their way there! |
Ace Uoweme
Republic Military School Minmatar Republic
473
|
Posted - 2013.07.17 18:49:00 -
[584] - Quote
Witchmaker wrote:Oh my why did I have to exit the CFC so soon...............Time to take a trip back to the motherland and shoot the cute little high sec carebears who are attempting to make their way there!
Would be fun I guess, since that's about all they can do for "fun" anyway. Playing docking games; blobing; or killing babes in high-sec.
And please no more tear posts, after this can just drop the baby talk, as it's clear A LOT of projection is going on. "In a world of universal deceit, telling the truth is a revolutionary act." ~George Orwell
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Joepopo
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
89
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Posted - 2013.07.17 23:05:00 -
[585] - Quote
Ace Uoweme wrote:Witchmaker wrote:Oh my why did I have to exit the CFC so soon...............Time to take a trip back to the motherland and shoot the cute little high sec carebears who are attempting to make their way there! Would be fun I guess, since that's about all they can do for "fun" anyway. Playing docking games; blobing; or killing babes in high-sec. And please no more tear posts, after this can just drop the baby talk, as it's clear A LOT of projection is going on.
And also harvesting the resource. one of crazy Ace most confusing invention about the goonswarm conspiracy.[/quote] |
Joepopo
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
89
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Posted - 2013.07.17 23:06:00 -
[586] - Quote
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Ace Uoweme
Republic Military School Minmatar Republic
474
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Posted - 2013.07.18 00:05:00 -
[587] - Quote
Going to have up the CPSA cost on this toon's mails. "In a world of universal deceit, telling the truth is a revolutionary act." ~George Orwell
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Herzog Wolfhammer
Sigma Special Tactics Group
3111
|
Posted - 2013.07.18 00:17:00 -
[588] - Quote
Goons are only allowed so many words per month.
Meanwhile.... |
Hazzard
Imperial Guardians Tribal Band
42
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Posted - 2013.07.18 01:56:00 -
[589] - Quote
Only problem is goons like it from behind! |
Harry Forever
SpaceJunkys
394
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Posted - 2013.07.18 08:31:00 -
[590] - Quote
Joe? are we loosing you? OMG! the asteroid is depleted! |
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Ace Uoweme
Republic Military School Minmatar Republic
475
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Posted - 2013.07.18 10:56:00 -
[591] - Quote
I think so as his emails are...let's just say...weird.
What is it about null? Is the Mercoxit fumes poisoning the minds down there or what? "In a world of universal deceit, telling the truth is a revolutionary act." ~George Orwell
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Sol Kal'orr
TLSG
20
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Posted - 2013.07.18 11:05:00 -
[592] - Quote
There is too much antagonism in this thread.
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Joepopo
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
90
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Posted - 2013.07.18 12:18:00 -
[593] - Quote
Ace Uoweme wrote:I think so as his emails are...let's just say...weird. What is it about null? Is the Mercoxit fumes poisoning the minds down there or what?
For reference, I was actually asking what 'the resource' meant in Ace message.
The resource that apparently ISK can't buy.
I guessed friendship.
Apparently it is a dumb guess based on mercoxit fumes; go ahead, Ace, tell us what you were thinking about and let's see how much smarter your version is. |
Alt Elongur
Republic Military School Minmatar Republic
0
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Posted - 2013.07.18 12:34:00 -
[594] - Quote
Joepopo wrote:Ace Uoweme wrote:I think so as his emails are...let's just say...weird. What is it about null? Is the Mercoxit fumes poisoning the minds down there or what? For reference, I was actually asking what 'the resource' meant in Ace message. The resource that apparently ISK can't buy. I guessed friendship. Apparently it is a dumb guess based on mercoxit fumes; go ahead, Ace, tell us what you were thinking about and let's see how much smarter your version is.
What is "fun", Alex? |
Harry Forever
SpaceJunkys
395
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Posted - 2013.07.18 13:47:00 -
[595] - Quote
VFK is far from beeing a slaughterhouse, more people need to join! we need to burn their hive and unleash flames to the close buy ratting systems! my friends and I are not enough, there need to be at least 100 people there! continuosly! with alts or with their main I do not care! jump into your ship and allocate one character to this task, I think all of high sec have the duty to do it!
here is one legion I nearly braught down yesterday with my thrasher alone! one more and we would have kissed that thing goodnight!
https://twitter.com/geistreiches/status/357605548461522944/photo/1
hit me up in my SpaceJunkys chat, we got ships we got ammo... it is time to do some serious damage! OMG! the asteroid is depleted! |
Darius Onok
Proletariat Projects Inc SoulWing Alliance
9
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Posted - 2013.07.18 14:21:00 -
[596] - Quote
Harry Forever wrote:VFK is far from beeing a slaughterhouse, more people need to join! we need to burn their hive and unleash flames to the close buy ratting systems! my friends and I are not enough, there need to be at least 100 people there! continuosly! with alts or with their main I do not care! jump into your ship and allocate one character to this task, I think all of high sec have the duty to do it! here is one legion I nearly braught down yesterday with my thrasher alone! one more and we would have kissed that thing goodnight! https://twitter.com/geistreiches/status/357605548461522944/photo/1hit me up in my SpaceJunkys chat, we got ships we got ammo... it is time to do some serious damage!
I just finished all the skills I needed to properly fit a Thrasher... I think. I'll be reporting for duty this weekend!
VIVA LA REVOLUTION! |
Khergit Deserters
Crom's Angels
1356
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Posted - 2013.07.18 14:52:00 -
[597] - Quote
Excellent, one more bush fighter in.
Get in there guys! It's not that hard or dangerous. Much less dangerous than making a run through some low sec systems, such as Amamake. Once you get to VFK-IV, you can enjoy some outdoor nature camping for days at a time. Just log off in your safe spot, and when you log back on, you'll be right there onsite in VFK. Ready to go say good morning to the locals. |
Herzog Wolfhammer
Sigma Special Tactics Group
3118
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Posted - 2013.07.18 14:56:00 -
[598] - Quote
Harry Forever wrote:VFK is far from beeing a slaughterhouse, more people need to join! we need to burn their hive and unleash flames to the close buy ratting systems! my friends and I are not enough, there need to be at least 100 people there! continuosly! with alts or with their main I do not care! jump into your ship and allocate one character to this task, I think all of high sec have the duty to do it! here is one legion I nearly braught down yesterday with my thrasher alone! one more and we would have kissed that thing goodnight! https://twitter.com/geistreiches/status/357605548461522944/photo/1hit me up in my SpaceJunkys chat, we got ships we got ammo... it is time to do some serious damage!
My alt is going to be focusing all training on one ship: the Talwar.
While there is much to be said for picking one ship, and then targeting the SP for it. It's the total opposite of futzing around on a little SP here, a little SP there, try this out, try that out. If you take an alt, pick one ship you want to hit hard with, see what the bonuses and weapons platforms are, you can become effective with it with only a couple million SP.
Destroyers, not being much in the way of "tankable", don't require a lot of skills - mainly just weapons. Of course the PVP modules take some skills. So we are dealing with a level 5 and a specialization in small turrets or bays, web and scram, and then any module related to a bonus of the chosen hull model or even a type.
With frigates, if taken to level 5, you get a new world opening up as you can go on to assault frigates, electronics attack frigates, etc. Dessies to level 5 only gets you to dictors (not such a big deal if 1v1/small gang PVP is the goal). But evidently the "crossroad" is going to be at racial Frigate 3 where you can qualify to train for dessies.
Many would admit that Frigates 5 gives more options later, but if you want to do a lot of damage cheaply and not so much emphasis on tanking skills, dessies it is. We're talking only a couple of months training at most for 5 in the hull, 5 in operation, and the specialization of the weapons type with 3-4 of the "support" skills (motion prediction, sharpshooter, etc). |
Joepopo
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
90
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Posted - 2013.07.18 15:06:00 -
[599] - Quote
Harry Forever wrote:VFK is far from beeing a slaughterhouse, more people need to join! we need to burn their hive and unleash flames to the close buy ratting systems! my friends and I are not enough, there need to be at least 100 people there! continuosly! with alts or with their main I do not care! jump into your ship and allocate one character to this task, I think all of high sec have the duty to do it! here is one legion I nearly braught down yesterday with my thrasher alone! one more and we would have kissed that thing goodnight! https://twitter.com/geistreiches/status/357605548461522944/photo/1hit me up in my SpaceJunkys chat, we got ships we got ammo... it is time to do some serious damage!
Looking at the killboard I see they baited you with a cyno and then killed you with 3 guys.
This picture rings like "here is a picture where I fall for a booby trap. People baited me with a noobship because I wouldn't engage something bigger" |
EvilweaselSA
GoonCorp Goonswarm Federation
873
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Posted - 2013.07.18 15:07:00 -
[600] - Quote
Harry Forever wrote:VFK is far from beeing a slaughterhouse, more people need to join! we need to burn their hive and unleash flames to the close buy ratting systems! my friends and I are not enough, there need to be at least 100 people there! continuosly! with alts or with their main I do not care! jump into your ship and allocate one character to this task, I think all of high sec have the duty to do it! here is one legion I nearly braught down yesterday with my thrasher alone! one more and we would have kissed that thing goodnight! https://twitter.com/geistreiches/status/357605548461522944/photo/1hit me up in my SpaceJunkys chat, we got ships we got ammo... it is time to do some serious damage! who would have thought that absolutely nobody would be motivated by 30 pages of pubbie sperg besides your alts |
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Ace Uoweme
Republic Military School Minmatar Republic
477
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Posted - 2013.07.18 15:15:00 -
[601] - Quote
Joepopo wrote:Ace Uoweme wrote:I think so as his emails are...let's just say...weird. What is it about null? Is the Mercoxit fumes poisoning the minds down there or what? For reference, I was actually asking what 'the resource' meant in Ace message. The resource that apparently ISK can't buy. I guessed friendship. Apparently it is a dumb guess based on mercoxit fumes; go ahead, Ace, tell us what you were thinking about and let's see how much smarter your version is.
If you can't discuss the issues publicly, don't email me privately. This is a forum toon. What's said on the forums stays on the forums. I'm not interested in the BS these dramas bring. "In a world of universal deceit, telling the truth is a revolutionary act." ~George Orwell
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Harry Forever
SpaceJunkys
402
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Posted - 2013.07.18 15:20:00 -
[602] - Quote
EvilweaselSA wrote:Harry Forever wrote:VFK is far from beeing a slaughterhouse, more people need to join! we need to burn their hive and unleash flames to the close buy ratting systems! my friends and I are not enough, there need to be at least 100 people there! continuosly! with alts or with their main I do not care! jump into your ship and allocate one character to this task, I think all of high sec have the duty to do it! here is one legion I nearly braught down yesterday with my thrasher alone! one more and we would have kissed that thing goodnight! https://twitter.com/geistreiches/status/357605548461522944/photo/1hit me up in my SpaceJunkys chat, we got ships we got ammo... it is time to do some serious damage! who would have thought that absolutely nobody would be motivated by 30 pages of pubbie sperg besides your alts
go back sleeping dude, biggest fleet was 7 people we had in there, two weeks ago it was just me... if we keep that growth we hit the 100 in 2-3 month OMG! the asteroid is depleted! |
Herzog Wolfhammer
Sigma Special Tactics Group
3121
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Posted - 2013.07.18 15:20:00 -
[603] - Quote
Joepopo wrote:Harry Forever wrote:VFK is far from beeing a slaughterhouse, more people need to join! we need to burn their hive and unleash flames to the close buy ratting systems! my friends and I are not enough, there need to be at least 100 people there! continuosly! with alts or with their main I do not care! jump into your ship and allocate one character to this task, I think all of high sec have the duty to do it! here is one legion I nearly braught down yesterday with my thrasher alone! one more and we would have kissed that thing goodnight! https://twitter.com/geistreiches/status/357605548461522944/photo/1hit me up in my SpaceJunkys chat, we got ships we got ammo... it is time to do some serious damage! Looking at the killboard I see they baited you with a cyno and then killed you with 3 guys. This picture rings like "here is a picture where I fall for a booby trap. People baited me with a noobship because I wouldn't engage something bigger"
So it took 4 goons to kill him. I hope you are not fooling yourself into thinking this is some kind of victory. |
Harry Forever
SpaceJunkys
402
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Posted - 2013.07.18 15:22:00 -
[604] - Quote
Darius Onok wrote:Harry Forever wrote:VFK is far from beeing a slaughterhouse, more people need to join! we need to burn their hive and unleash flames to the close buy ratting systems! my friends and I are not enough, there need to be at least 100 people there! continuosly! with alts or with their main I do not care! jump into your ship and allocate one character to this task, I think all of high sec have the duty to do it! here is one legion I nearly braught down yesterday with my thrasher alone! one more and we would have kissed that thing goodnight! https://twitter.com/geistreiches/status/357605548461522944/photo/1hit me up in my SpaceJunkys chat, we got ships we got ammo... it is time to do some serious damage! I just finished all the skills I needed to properly fit a Thrasher... I think. I'll be reporting for duty this weekend! VIVA LA REVOLUTION!
nice! it seems the the times of happy cynokilling is over, goons are gearing up, they finally realized they have a bug problem and are throwing pest-control at me, we have to react and get serious now! OMG! the asteroid is depleted! |
Harry Forever
SpaceJunkys
404
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Posted - 2013.07.18 15:27:00 -
[605] - Quote
Khergit Deserters wrote:Excellent Darius, one more bush fighter is in! Get in there guys! It's not that hard or dangerous. Much less dangerous than making a run through some low sec systems, such as Amamake. Once you get to VFK-IV, you can enjoy some outdoor nature camping for days at a time. Just log off in your safe spot, and when you log back on, you'll be right there onsite in VFK. All ready and set to go say good morning to the locals.
thats exactly it!
we need dedicated alts of main characters in VFK around the clock, when you are finished doing your high-sec duty, just switch to your VFK alt and pop some goons at the end of the day, thats what the game is meant to be! come on guys everbody in high sec start rolling! OMG! the asteroid is depleted! |
Harry Forever
SpaceJunkys
404
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Posted - 2013.07.18 15:30:00 -
[606] - Quote
Joepopo wrote:Harry Forever wrote:VFK is far from beeing a slaughterhouse, more people need to join! we need to burn their hive and unleash flames to the close buy ratting systems! my friends and I are not enough, there need to be at least 100 people there! continuosly! with alts or with their main I do not care! jump into your ship and allocate one character to this task, I think all of high sec have the duty to do it! here is one legion I nearly braught down yesterday with my thrasher alone! one more and we would have kissed that thing goodnight! https://twitter.com/geistreiches/status/357605548461522944/photo/1hit me up in my SpaceJunkys chat, we got ships we got ammo... it is time to do some serious damage! Looking at the killboard I see they baited you with a cyno and then killed you with 3 guys. This picture rings like "here is a picture where I fall for a booby trap. People baited me with a noobship because I wouldn't engage something bigger"
you got it all wrong, I killed the cyno and that legion came to scramble me, but that poor guy forgot his ammo and just put two rounds in me, after that he was slowly going down, 4 minutes and if not some would have undocked to help him he would have been blasted to pieces!
I got it all on video, with some other footage, I will cut it and post it in the upcoming days! OMG! the asteroid is depleted! |
Harry Forever
SpaceJunkys
404
|
Posted - 2013.07.18 15:32:00 -
[607] - Quote
Herzog Wolfhammer wrote:Joepopo wrote:Harry Forever wrote:VFK is far from beeing a slaughterhouse, more people need to join! we need to burn their hive and unleash flames to the close buy ratting systems! my friends and I are not enough, there need to be at least 100 people there! continuosly! with alts or with their main I do not care! jump into your ship and allocate one character to this task, I think all of high sec have the duty to do it! here is one legion I nearly braught down yesterday with my thrasher alone! one more and we would have kissed that thing goodnight! https://twitter.com/geistreiches/status/357605548461522944/photo/1hit me up in my SpaceJunkys chat, we got ships we got ammo... it is time to do some serious damage! Looking at the killboard I see they baited you with a cyno and then killed you with 3 guys. This picture rings like "here is a picture where I fall for a booby trap. People baited me with a noobship because I wouldn't engage something bigger" So it took 4 goons to kill him. I hope you are not fooling yourself into thinking this is some kind of victory.
yea and they where not even able to save their ****** cyno, nearly lost a legion in addition to that, footage of that disasterous tactic soon will be on youtube! OMG! the asteroid is depleted! |
Nedisu
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
5
|
Posted - 2013.07.18 15:37:00 -
[608] - Quote
dont shoot my cyno bro |
Joepopo
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
92
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Posted - 2013.07.18 15:43:00 -
[609] - Quote
Harry Forever wrote:Joepopo wrote:Harry Forever wrote:VFK is far from beeing a slaughterhouse, more people need to join! we need to burn their hive and unleash flames to the close buy ratting systems! my friends and I are not enough, there need to be at least 100 people there! continuosly! with alts or with their main I do not care! jump into your ship and allocate one character to this task, I think all of high sec have the duty to do it! here is one legion I nearly braught down yesterday with my thrasher alone! one more and we would have kissed that thing goodnight! https://twitter.com/geistreiches/status/357605548461522944/photo/1hit me up in my SpaceJunkys chat, we got ships we got ammo... it is time to do some serious damage! Looking at the killboard I see they baited you with a cyno and then killed you with 3 guys. This picture rings like "here is a picture where I fall for a booby trap. People baited me with a noobship because I wouldn't engage something bigger" you got it all wrong, I killed the cyno and that legion came to scramble me, but that poor guy forgot his ammo and just put two rounds in me, after that he was slowly going down, 4 minutes and if not some would have undocked to help him he would have been blasted to pieces! I got it all on video, with some other footage, I will cut it and post it in the upcoming days!
Getting out of ammo in a legion (T1 cristals do not deplete) is extreme emergent gameplay. maybe this FCON guy could join you :) |
Harry Forever
SpaceJunkys
405
|
Posted - 2013.07.18 15:57:00 -
[610] - Quote
Joepopo wrote:Harry Forever wrote:Joepopo wrote:Harry Forever wrote:VFK is far from beeing a slaughterhouse, more people need to join! we need to burn their hive and unleash flames to the close buy ratting systems! my friends and I are not enough, there need to be at least 100 people there! continuosly! with alts or with their main I do not care! jump into your ship and allocate one character to this task, I think all of high sec have the duty to do it! here is one legion I nearly braught down yesterday with my thrasher alone! one more and we would have kissed that thing goodnight! https://twitter.com/geistreiches/status/357605548461522944/photo/1hit me up in my SpaceJunkys chat, we got ships we got ammo... it is time to do some serious damage! Looking at the killboard I see they baited you with a cyno and then killed you with 3 guys. This picture rings like "here is a picture where I fall for a booby trap. People baited me with a noobship because I wouldn't engage something bigger" you got it all wrong, I killed the cyno and that legion came to scramble me, but that poor guy forgot his ammo and just put two rounds in me, after that he was slowly going down, 4 minutes and if not some would have undocked to help him he would have been blasted to pieces! I got it all on video, with some other footage, I will cut it and post it in the upcoming days! Getting out of ammo in a legion (T1 cristals do not deplete) is extreme emergent gameplay. maybe this FCON guy could join you :)
he probably just shock-paniced when i went through his shields OMG! the asteroid is depleted! |
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bloodknight2
Talledega Knights PLEASE NOT VIOLENCE OUR BOATS
122
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Posted - 2013.07.18 18:16:00 -
[611] - Quote
Joepopo wrote:
Getting out of ammo in a legion (T1 cristals do not deplete) is extreme emergent gameplay. maybe this FCON guy could join you :)
Real men doesn't hull tank, but undock with scorch/conflag used at 99% |
Harry Forever
SpaceJunkys
408
|
Posted - 2013.07.18 19:58:00 -
[612] - Quote
new prizes are up for the Goons Doomsday Event a fully fitted GoonHammer (Armageddon!!!) - Sponsored Prize!!! OMG! the asteroid is depleted! |
Ustrello
Amok. Goonswarm Federation
125
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Posted - 2013.07.18 23:34:00 -
[613] - Quote
Those are some lame names for the prizes just saying |
Khergit Deserters
Crom's Angels
1358
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Posted - 2013.07.18 23:50:00 -
[614] - Quote
If you'll donate a good enough ship, Harry might name a prize after you. |
Alt Elongur
Republic Military School Minmatar Republic
1
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Posted - 2013.07.19 00:08:00 -
[615] - Quote
Ustrello wrote:Those are some lame names for the prizes just saying
What's in a name?
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Harry Forever
SpaceJunkys
412
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Posted - 2013.07.19 06:39:00 -
[616] - Quote
Ustrello wrote:Those are some lame names for the prizes just saying
it was funny for the first 3 I setup, however I did not expect so many people giving me stuff, thats why I started running out of names and now it looks a bit repetitive... however please forward the link to the event you setup with all the cool names for the prizes and I take that as inspiration, if there is no such event you might asl well just shut up. OMG! the asteroid is depleted! |
Dirk Decibel
Pator Tech School Minmatar Republic
32
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Posted - 2013.07.19 09:19:00 -
[617] - Quote
Harry Forever wrote:Ustrello wrote:Those are some lame names for the prizes just saying it was funny for the first 3 I setup, however I did not expect so many people giving me stuff, thats why I started running out of names and now it looks a bit repetitive... however please forward the link to the event you setup with all the cool names for the prizes and I take that as inspiration, if there is no such event you might asl well just shut up. It's Goons man, they never shut up, they just sperg and sperg till they die (IRL). And they're big fans of forum warfare, pls provide them with as little of that as possible, their posting makes my eyes bleed... |
Harry Forever
SpaceJunkys
412
|
Posted - 2013.07.19 09:45:00 -
[618] - Quote
Dirk Decibel wrote:Harry Forever wrote:Ustrello wrote:Those are some lame names for the prizes just saying it was funny for the first 3 I setup, however I did not expect so many people giving me stuff, thats why I started running out of names and now it looks a bit repetitive... however please forward the link to the event you setup with all the cool names for the prizes and I take that as inspiration, if there is no such event you might asl well just shut up. It's Goons man, they never shut up, they just sperg and sperg till they die (IRL). And they're big fans of forum warfare, pls provide them with as little of that as possible, their posting makes my eyes bleed...
you are right, I sometimes just can not resist throwing sticks for those dogs Goons Doomsday Event - 28. July |
OldWolf69
IR0N. SpaceMonkey's Alliance
64
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Posted - 2013.07.19 11:23:00 -
[619] - Quote
Lol, Harry. Then i'll cya in 28 in VFK? |
Harry Forever
SpaceJunkys
414
|
Posted - 2013.07.19 11:32:00 -
[620] - Quote
OldWolf69 wrote:Lol, Harry. Then i'll cya in 28 in VFK?
yea 28. July is the day boom! bang! :D still I need some people to bring SBUs though! to assure we have real fun! :D Goons Doomsday Event - 28. July |
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Joepopo
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
92
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Posted - 2013.07.19 12:23:00 -
[621] - Quote
Harry Forever wrote:OldWolf69 wrote:Lol, Harry. Then i'll cya in 28 in VFK? yea 28. July is the day boom! bang! :D still I need some people to bring SBUs though! to assure we have real fun! :D
Buy one yourself, contract it to me for delivery
Edit: i will even be nice to you and tell you need to bring 3 |
Harry Forever
SpaceJunkys
414
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Posted - 2013.07.19 12:27:00 -
[622] - Quote
Joepopo wrote:Harry Forever wrote:OldWolf69 wrote:Lol, Harry. Then i'll cya in 28 in VFK? yea 28. July is the day boom! bang! :D still I need some people to bring SBUs though! to assure we have real fun! :D Buy one yourself, contract it to me for delivery Edit: i will even be nice to you and tell you need to bring 3
the pricetag is still a bit high for my wallet, and i can not anchor those things because of missing skills, you may steal one from the goonswarm hangar though, I'm sure they have so many nobody will miss one or two
Joe we are counting on you, make it happen...
Edit: I even prefer to have 10 of those things up, that will make it harder to shoot them down... Goons Doomsday Event - 28. July |
Joepopo
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
93
|
Posted - 2013.07.19 12:37:00 -
[623] - Quote
Harry Forever wrote:the pricetag is still a bit high for my wallet, and i can not anchor those things because of missing skills, you may steal one from the goonswarm hangar though, I'm sure they have so many nobody will miss one or two
I want all the candies but I don't want to pay for them, daddy please. |
Harry Forever
SpaceJunkys
414
|
Posted - 2013.07.19 12:45:00 -
[624] - Quote
Joepopo wrote:Harry Forever wrote:the pricetag is still a bit high for my wallet, and i can not anchor those things because of missing skills, you may steal one from the goonswarm hangar though, I'm sure they have so many nobody will miss one or two I want all the candies but I don't want to pay for them, daddy please.
you see what i accomblished, gathering all the prizes and stuff, where else you still have to show your commitment to the game, want to become an important player? or stay a forum troll? ...just decide for yourself Goons Doomsday Event - 28. July |
Alt Elongur
Republic Military School Minmatar Republic
1
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Posted - 2013.07.19 13:16:00 -
[625] - Quote
We'll have to excuse Joe. He's been shooting stationary targets since May. Must be great fun.
http://eve.battleclinic.com/killboard/combat_record.php?type=player&name=Joepopo |
Ace Uoweme
Republic Military School Minmatar Republic
477
|
Posted - 2013.07.19 13:21:00 -
[626] - Quote
Joepopo wrote:Harry Forever wrote:the pricetag is still a bit high for my wallet, and i can not anchor those things because of missing skills, you may steal one from the goonswarm hangar though, I'm sure they have so many nobody will miss one or two I want all the candies but I don't want to pay for them, daddy please.
Hey, if this Fountain war goes on any longer, you'll be asking for this, since the Harry's are making you their... "In a world of universal deceit, telling the truth is a revolutionary act." ~George Orwell
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Ustrello
Amok. Goonswarm Federation
125
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Posted - 2013.07.19 13:40:00 -
[627] - Quote
Harry Forever wrote:Joepopo wrote:Harry Forever wrote:the pricetag is still a bit high for my wallet, and i can not anchor those things because of missing skills, you may steal one from the goonswarm hangar though, I'm sure they have so many nobody will miss one or two I want all the candies but I don't want to pay for them, daddy please. you see what i accomblished, gathering all the prizes and stuff, where else you still have to show your commitment to the game, want to become an important player? or stay a forum troll? ...just decide for yourself
You are hardly disproving his point |
Harry Forever
SpaceJunkys
415
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Posted - 2013.07.19 13:55:00 -
[628] - Quote
Ustrello wrote:Harry Forever wrote:Joepopo wrote:Harry Forever wrote:the pricetag is still a bit high for my wallet, and i can not anchor those things because of missing skills, you may steal one from the goonswarm hangar though, I'm sure they have so many nobody will miss one or two I want all the candies but I don't want to pay for them, daddy please. you see what i accomblished, gathering all the prizes and stuff, where else you still have to show your commitment to the game, want to become an important player? or stay a forum troll? ...just decide for yourself You are hardly disproving his point
hey Ustrello, just go for it as well, sure Joe can need some backup for his mission... maybe you both endup goons to be know except Mittani... Goons Doomsday Event - 28. July |
Ustrello
Amok. Goonswarm Federation
125
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Posted - 2013.07.19 14:27:00 -
[629] - Quote
Harry Forever wrote:Ustrello wrote:Harry Forever wrote:Joepopo wrote:Harry Forever wrote:the pricetag is still a bit high for my wallet, and i can not anchor those things because of missing skills, you may steal one from the goonswarm hangar though, I'm sure they have so many nobody will miss one or two I want all the candies but I don't want to pay for them, daddy please. you see what i accomblished, gathering all the prizes and stuff, where else you still have to show your commitment to the game, want to become an important player? or stay a forum troll? ...just decide for yourself You are hardly disproving his point hey Ustrello, just go for it as well, sure Joe can need some backup for his mission... maybe you both endup goons to be know except Mittani...
Someone else do the work for me |
Harry Forever
SpaceJunkys
421
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Posted - 2013.07.19 14:57:00 -
[630] - Quote
Ustrello wrote:Harry Forever wrote:
hey Ustrello, just go for it as well, sure Joe can need some backup for his mission... maybe you both endup goons to be know except Mittani...
Someone else do the work for me
cool Goons Doomsday Event - 28. July |
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Herzog Wolfhammer
Sigma Special Tactics Group
3127
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Posted - 2013.07.19 15:05:00 -
[631] - Quote
Joepopo wrote:Harry Forever wrote:the pricetag is still a bit high for my wallet, and i can not anchor those things because of missing skills, you may steal one from the goonswarm hangar though, I'm sure they have so many nobody will miss one or two I want all the candies but I don't want to pay for them, daddy please.
Why pay for them when we shoot people who have them already?
What is this, Tea and Crumpets Online? |
Ustrello
Amok. Goonswarm Federation
125
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Posted - 2013.07.19 15:09:00 -
[632] - Quote
Juat that you are too lazy to do it yourself |
Harry Forever
SpaceJunkys
422
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Posted - 2013.07.19 15:12:00 -
[633] - Quote
Ustrello wrote:Juat that you are too lazy to do it yourself
no, like mentioned already, I do not have the skill for anchoring SBUs, please do some research before you keep posting stuff that already was explained... Goons Doomsday Event - 28. July |
Harry Forever
SpaceJunkys
422
|
Posted - 2013.07.19 15:12:00 -
[634] - Quote
yea have seen that as well already, however did not want to go too hard on him because of it, he seems to be the sensitive guy ^^ Goons Doomsday Event - 28. July |
Ustrello
Amok. Goonswarm Federation
125
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Posted - 2013.07.19 15:26:00 -
[635] - Quote
Harry Forever wrote:Ustrello wrote:Juat that you are too lazy to do it yourself no, like mentioned already, I do not have the skill for anchoring SBUs, please do some research before you keep posting stuff that already was explained...
Because training a skill to level one is hard right? |
Lemonades
Dreddit Test Alliance Please Ignore
48
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Posted - 2013.07.19 15:41:00 -
[636] - Quote
Keep in mind that you have to be in an alliance and need to have roles to anchor/online a SBU. |
Maximillian German
Spectres Syndicate
24
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Posted - 2013.07.19 15:49:00 -
[637] - Quote
Good on ya Harry, you've got the goons scared. Everyone knows that the Goons' only defense is trolling. Well, that and supercaps, BUT ANYWAY, you've got them on the ropes. Definitely. Show those forum trolls what you're made of! Hit them from behind! |
Harry Forever
SpaceJunkys
424
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Posted - 2013.07.19 15:52:00 -
[638] - Quote
Lemonades wrote:Keep in mind that you have to be in an alliance and need to have roles to anchor/online a SBU.
thanks for your help, that goon up there just doesn't get it :)
maybe TEST can place some SBUs in VFK area on the 28. July, would be really helpful... Goons Doomsday Event - 28. July |
Elizabeth Aideron
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
103
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Posted - 2013.07.19 15:54:00 -
[639] - Quote
Harry Forever wrote:Lemonades wrote:Keep in mind that you have to be in an alliance and need to have roles to anchor/online a SBU. thanks for your help, that goon up there just doesn't get it :) maybe TEST can place some SBUs in VFK area on the 28. July, would be really helpful...
you're the one who thinks you can put up 10 sbus |
Herzog Wolfhammer
Sigma Special Tactics Group
3130
|
Posted - 2013.07.19 16:22:00 -
[640] - Quote
There's such a thing as thinking you are in charge while everybody does what they want.
And then there's thinking you are free while somebody else is really in charge of what you do.
When these differences become apparent, the organizations built on the ignorance to said differences will fade like ghosts at dawn.
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Onictus
Silver Snake Enterprise Fatal Ascension
299
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Posted - 2013.07.19 18:49:00 -
[641] - Quote
Harry Forever wrote:Lemonades wrote:Keep in mind that you have to be in an alliance and need to have roles to anchor/online a SBU. thanks for your help, that goon up there just doesn't get it :) maybe TEST can place some SBUs in VFK area on the 28. July, would be really helpful... TEST doesn't even put up their own sbus in fountain, they make their nc. Pets do out for them. |
Herzog Wolfhammer
Sigma Special Tactics Group
3133
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Posted - 2013.07.19 20:35:00 -
[642] - Quote
Mev. SOV cost what, a billion ISK a month? Why pay for SOV when you can deny the system to people who already paid for it?
Like I said before, the potential for nullsec butthurt far exceeds the butthurt to be derived from ganking some hapless noob in highsec.
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OldWolf69
IR0N. SpaceMonkey's Alliance
65
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Posted - 2013.07.21 05:59:00 -
[643] - Quote
Herzog Wolfhammer wrote:Meh. SOV cost what, a billion ISK a month? Why pay for SOV when you can deny the system to people who already paid for it?
Like I said before, the potential for nullsec butthurt far exceeds the butthurt to be derived from ganking some hapless noob in highsec.
And isn't is NOT worth fighting for if nullsec is ooh soo great?
I think the greatest weapon ever used to protect nullsec against incursion from highsec is something we call bullshit.
Fact is that nullsec is nearly useless to the residents if the occupiers had to constantly defend it. There would not be so many people out there now if this was the case. When Joe Tengu who wants to farm anoms all day has to hunt down highsec bears who might bomb him then every reason he had for being out there is gone. He would be better off living in highsec himself and making incursions just like the bears. So all that putting up with nerd rage and drama and *maybe* a war or two far exceeds the cost of being out there.
And the bottom line is that someone who just wants to grind big ISK payout in nullsec is not far departed from the highsec carebear who wants to farm LVL 4s and incursions in a shiney.
So nullsec does take a lot of protection. It takes a lot of renters manning those gank pipelines and a lot of propaganda to scare people from even trying to cross the barrier.
Just to make nullsec 98 percent "as safe" as highsec. *Maybe* some of the lies constantly being foisted on noobs via the NPC corp chat channels (as if I am reading "oh man I just lost everything!" posts and not having a locator agent handy) might be true and some roaming gang with a brass pair, not afraid of "being blobbed in two minutes of entering the constellation" might blow up your ship as you are ratting. Can anybody tell me that any huge alliance would not try something like this? To make everytbody think they don't have a chance unless they join the power structure and be a slave in it?
Nah. There's money in this you see. Even there's no RMT, the PLEX purchases save money, so the money not spent is money earned. So yeah, there would be a planned and organized propaganda and disinformation effort.
Because Joe Tengu will pack up and leave when he has to chase some bears around for an hour and to do what? Destroy a ship that costs a mere fraction of what he lost because he was hunting some noob and not running anoms?
All that NBSI goes out the window. All that "you fly tech 2 or GTFO" gone. No carebearing it up out there.
Look at how there are constant whines about nullsec AFK cloakers. Look at the cries and screaming whenever someone suggests that local be removed from nullsec.
What Harry and is crew are doing is cutting straight through the lies with their hulls. And the goon propaganists are not as effective out there as they are in the forums. Kind sir, your, errrm....7 kills show me you will deny VFK to Mittens and Ze Gewns, that for shure. Your activity since 2006 is a great inspiration for us. Like i said to Harry, we gonna cya in a week in VFK. PS. Dont forget to NOT spend a lot for ammo. Thrashers die fast.
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Harry Forever
SpaceJunkys
428
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Posted - 2013.07.21 12:42:00 -
[644] - Quote
hmm... procurercynos with defense drones... thats a pretty smart move Goons Doomsday Event - 28. July |
Herzog Wolfhammer
Sigma Special Tactics Group
3142
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Posted - 2013.07.21 20:49:00 -
[645] - Quote
Harry Forever wrote:hmm... procurercynos with defense drones... thats a pretty smart move
however I still don't understand why they keep throwing up to 5 experienced players at me, making traps, using tengus, interdictors and force recon ships... just to save that cynoship
killing cynos might not be a big deal, but the amount of attention the goons put into a 3 month old player is unmatched...
a few more days until my bomber kills are ready, until then I will further investigate this behaviour...
I suspect that killing a cnyo ship is not so much an attack on the goons and having any great effect on their overall operations.
It's an attack on the individual goon, and his stats. Getting repeatedly boinked out there in space is not going to sit well with the individual who may be concerned with his future in Eve.
So the goons, I suspect, are acting along the lines of sticking up for each other, one of their selling points.
But this, given a little work and further experimentation, is going to be a liability for them.
Any large state, as we learn from history, is easily de-legitimized when it gets hung up on it's own glorious doctrines.
If you can't kill a battle tank, the road it needs to travel on is much easier to take out... |
Sipphakta en Gravonere
4S Corporation RAZOR Alliance
184
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Posted - 2013.07.21 21:08:00 -
[646] - Quote
Herzog Wolfhammer wrote: It's an attack on the individual goon, and his stats. Getting repeatedly boinked out there in space is not going to sit well with the individual who may be concerned with his future in Eve.
You seem to think that killboard stats are somehow important.
I wish I were a cat. That way, I could kill things and people would applaud - instead of screaming out "OH GOD NO, NOT MY DAUGHTER!" |
Harry Forever
SpaceJunkys
433
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Posted - 2013.07.21 21:11:00 -
[647] - Quote
the truth is, I would engage in even fights, but the goons don't want to undock anything below a tengu when I'm there... I'm honestly at a loss with those guys... one on one seems to scare them alot... Goons Doomsday Event - 28. July |
Herzog Wolfhammer
Sigma Special Tactics Group
3144
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Posted - 2013.07.21 21:13:00 -
[648] - Quote
Sipphakta en Gravonere wrote:Herzog Wolfhammer wrote: It's an attack on the individual goon, and his stats. Getting repeatedly boinked out there in space is not going to sit well with the individual who may be concerned with his future in Eve.
You seem to think that killboard stats are somehow important.
I must be doing something right.
In addition to this assumption about kill boards is one. Were it up to me, killboards would be replaced with "incident reports" so people not in direct combat roles could get credit. But look at my past posts where I say that people obsessed with kill boards are as bad as highsec grinders with their wallets open all the time - you know, the people who won't tank their industrial.
The other thing, I was called a pirate recently. That too, is rich.
This shows how entrenched in their idiotic paradigms we have become in this game. And this is why nothing is more out of the box than simply going to nullsec and shooting people. No "permission", no "NRDS NBSI" policy crap. No joining an alliance. No grinding ISK and SP for years being bored to death as a sacrifice unto the god of "going to null".
A PVP game. How about that. |
Sipphakta en Gravonere
4S Corporation RAZOR Alliance
185
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Posted - 2013.07.21 21:25:00 -
[649] - Quote
Herzog Wolfhammer wrote: In addition to this assumption about kill boards is one. Were it up to me, killboards would be replaced with "incident reports" so people not in direct combat roles could get credit.
As a logi pilot: Yes, that would be nice - if only to shut up people that are putting too much value into killboard stuff.
Quote: But look at my past posts where I say that people obsessed with kill boards are as bad as highsec grinders with their wallets open all the time - you know, the people who won't tank their industrial.
That is true. Goons and many others in the CFC don't care about their killboard, they don't care about ~elite pvp~, they don't care about giving fair fights as they are pointless. It's really fun to see all the tears from the pvp crowd when you drop a full fleet for a 10 man gang. Remember: When you find yourself in a fair fight in eve, either you or your opponent did something wrong. I wish I were a cat. That way, I could kill things and people would applaud - instead of screaming out "OH GOD NO, NOT MY DAUGHTER!" |
Rhivre
TarNec Invisible Exchequer
338
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Posted - 2013.07.21 21:32:00 -
[650] - Quote
Herzog Wolfhammer wrote:
The other thing, I was called a pirate recently. That too, is rich.
This shows how entrenched in their idiotic paradigms we have become in this game. And this is why nothing is more out of the box than simply going to nullsec and shooting people. No "permission", no "NRDS NBSI" policy crap. No joining an alliance. No grinding ISK and SP for years being bored to death as a sacrifice unto the god of "going to null".
A PVP game. How about that.
Why do you think you are not a pirate? Have you bought into some paradigm of what a pirate is?
Quick question, if you dont have to "grind" isk in any way, how are you going to get the ships with which to shoot people in nullsec? |
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Herzog Wolfhammer
Sigma Special Tactics Group
3144
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Posted - 2013.07.21 21:49:00 -
[651] - Quote
Sipphakta en Gravonere wrote:Herzog Wolfhammer wrote: In addition to this assumption about kill boards is one. Were it up to me, killboards would be replaced with "incident reports" so people not in direct combat roles could get credit.
As a logi pilot: Yes, that would be nice - if only to shut up people that are putting too much value into killboard stuff. Quote: But look at my past posts where I say that people obsessed with kill boards are as bad as highsec grinders with their wallets open all the time - you know, the people who won't tank their industrial.
That is true. Goons and many others in the CFC don't care about their killboard, they don't care about ~elite pvp~, they don't care about giving fair fights as they are pointless. It's really fun to see all the tears from the pvp crowd when you drop a full fleet for a 10 man gang. Remember: When you find yourself in a fair fight in eve, either you or your opponent did something wrong.
I could imagine that dropping a fleet on a small or medium gang would be irritating to people who want stats or value the so-called "fair fight".
But they are working on an older generation of warfare. We are promoting a new concept, asymmetric warfare. The expectation of getting blobbed in an exercise of overkill is part of the goal you see.
We think of it like this: if you go into an area in a small group, and the response is a blob of enemy ships, who really won?
People will say, from the "war of attrition" perspective of 3rd generation warfare, that a superior force was deployed to overcome a smaller force the the region was kept under control.
From the approach of 4th generation warfare, the whole endeavor cost the superior force more. 4GW takes on the accountability of the greatest weapon ever known in warfare: economics.
Think of it this way: you spend millions on an attack aircraft, 40K on a smart bomb, and millions more getting that equipment into the field. The bomb gets dropped on a pickup truck worth at best 400 dollars.
Who won?
Even with nice cheap drones, the targets of these hellfire missiles are way cheaper than the missile. The cost and logistical support of the drone is also to be taken into account. So the drone operators high-five each other for taking out an old truck or barn, and just outside the door of their control room, their own country is bankrupt and falling apart.
Now, getting back in the game, a fleet is sent to dispatch a small incursion team.
That's a lot of material.
And what of the players? What were the players doing? Where they running anoms? Where they ratting (which many say is on the level of level 4 highsec missions)?
Take the amount of ISK per hour doing these "nullsec things" and say it takes an hour to catch the small incursion gang.
Let's say the small gang had mere destroyers, some frigates, maybe some of the tech 2 variety, or not. We can assume 2-month noobs even, in Rifters, raising hell for the fun of it.
So, if they small gang is nimble and has experience (and they will if they keep at it enough) they will be tying the "superior force" up for a while.
And finally, when the small gang or fleet is blobbed, and podded "back to highsec", you are looking at maybe on average (assuming T2 turrets and tanking modules) anywhere from 7 to 10 Million ISK per player, and if they player is only in a few months, a cheap clone too.
What did the individual members of "the superior force" pay for those ships? Naturally someone who sees a million dollar missile take out a 40 dollar tent in RL might cheer if they don't know economics. But that tent cost the RL "superior force" the price of the missile and the cost of getting the delivery platform into theater, and maintaining it too (wear and tear).
The team of noobs who got podded back to highsec will be back.
The people who killed them, will have paid the cost - the ISK they WOULD HAVE made if they didn't have to hunt down some noobs.
This is why we explain that if everybody in highsec, tired of the attitude towards them, tired of nullsec drama and feudalism (lots of people in highsec who tried nullsec and came back with a double-facepalm) , and tired of this wall of lies used to corporatize and pave over nullsec, which would otherwise be a rich land of exploration, harvesting, and PVP, would roll an alt, skill up to do some damage, and just start heading out there, nullsec would burn.
And the butthurt potential is great you see, because people pay to be in nullsec, they pay for SOV. And the alliances sell to the same kind of self-interested ISK-hogging that they say is so prevalent in highsec and poisoning the game. They only care about numbers and how much they get in taxes, while someone at the top acts like it matters, looking at numbers numbers numbers.
Once people realize this, things will change. Harry is proving that it can be done.
Once the pirate/griefer community realizes this, and once the rich incursioners in highsec provide ISK, it's over for nullsec. But we never know who the benefactors are, they might well be highsec incursion runners, making their habit of keeping the Sansha Mom alive while grinding sites the very infinite ISK weapon that nullsec should be worried about. For once that ISK becomes an endless supply of T1 and T2 ships for newer players, or their own alts, all the "nerf highsec" complaints in the world won't stop this juggernaut (the ISK is already earned). |
Herzog Wolfhammer
Sigma Special Tactics Group
3144
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Posted - 2013.07.21 21:53:00 -
[652] - Quote
Rhivre wrote:Herzog Wolfhammer wrote:
The other thing, I was called a pirate recently. That too, is rich.
This shows how entrenched in their idiotic paradigms we have become in this game. And this is why nothing is more out of the box than simply going to nullsec and shooting people. No "permission", no "NRDS NBSI" policy crap. No joining an alliance. No grinding ISK and SP for years being bored to death as a sacrifice unto the god of "going to null".
A PVP game. How about that.
Why do you think you are not a pirate? Have you bought into some paradigm of what a pirate is? Quick question, if you dont have to "grind" isk in any way, how are you going to get the ships with which to shoot people in nullsec?
I am not a pirate. |
Kaarous Aldurald
ROC Academy The ROC
516
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Posted - 2013.07.21 22:02:00 -
[653] - Quote
Quote:I could imagine that dropping a fleet on a small or medium gang would be irritating to people who want stats or value the so-called "fair fight".
Those people are wrong. And it's funny to make them cry about it, because their hurt feelings really stem from a deep seated desire to not admit that they are wrong.
Quote: We think of it like this: if you go into an area in a small group, and the response is a blob of enemy ships, who really won?
The guys who lived. EVE is, at least in the kinds of numbers we are talking about, economic and psychological warfare. Economical, blobbing and taking no losses. Psychological, making you feel like it's futile to fight someone who will blob you so well.
In the end, the desire and the ability to fight is lost.
Most of the rest of your argument is pretty much absurd in a videogame. In real life? Yes, cost effective warfare is a problem.
But in EVE? All it costs someone to cyno a gang on you is a few minutes time and some minor materials. Materials, I might add, that are not all that tricky to come by.
Quote:The people who killed them, will have paid the cost - the ISK they WOULD HAVE made if they didn't have to hunt down some noobs.
Standing fleets. The entire thing, particularly the opportunity cost, is pretty well already taken into account. Yeesh.
Quote:Once people realize this, things will change. Harry is proving that it can be done.
Harry is making an ass of himself, as he always does.
Furthermore, your entire "sleeping giant" argument is asinine. If the people you are talking about waking up, ever could, there wouldn't be so much nullsec on the CSM. They aren't even capable of voting, let alone standing fleet timers and running ops and pos bashes. Not posting on my main, and loving it.-á Because free speech.-á |
Onictus
Silver Snake Enterprise Fatal Ascension
304
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Posted - 2013.07.21 22:05:00 -
[654] - Quote
Herzog Wolfhammer wrote:
Once people realize this, things will change. Harry is proving that it can be done.
LOL IT was a SECRET, the 0.0 crowd has been saying for years if you aren't stupid about it it isn't very hard at all to get into or out null.
.....and the dude you hold so high on a pedastal has managed to kill like 25 ships in a month....mostly immobile un-fit cyno ships. He's definately cramping......ummm someone's.....style.
Herzog Wolfhammer wrote: Once the pirate/griefer community realizes this, and once the rich incursioners in highsec provide ISK, it's over for nullsec. But we never know who the benefactors are, they might well be highsec incursion runners, making their habit of keeping the Sansha Mom alive while grinding sites the very infinite ISK weapon that nullsec should be worried about. For once that ISK becomes an endless supply of T1 and T2 ships for newer players, or their own alts, all the "nerf highsec" complaints in the world won't stop this juggernaut (the ISK is already earned).
Incursioners paying people to PvP for them whololololololol
Dude really, whatever you are on share it, it must be some good poo. |
DrysonBennington
Eagle's Talon's
38
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Posted - 2013.07.22 01:08:00 -
[655] - Quote
I have a girlfriend....yep. |
Alt Elongur
Republic Military School Minmatar Republic
3
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Posted - 2013.07.22 01:13:00 -
[656] - Quote
Onictus wrote:
Incursioners paying people to PvP for them whololololololol.
Hahahahahaha! Quite right! Incursioners are far to miserly to provide prizes for battle.
My employer is not an "incursioner".
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Herzog Wolfhammer
Sigma Special Tactics Group
3148
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Posted - 2013.07.22 04:04:00 -
[657] - Quote
Yet the irony of goons getting ganked in their own system is very overlooked even in this thread.
Which is in itself... ironic. |
Joepopo
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
94
|
Posted - 2013.07.22 04:19:00 -
[658] - Quote
Herzog Wolfhammer wrote: Long post from Herzog
Interesting post, quite few ideas.
My comments: 1 - SOV pays for themselves through extracting moon goo. You can't attack those without a fleet, if you do, you will get dunked to ashes.
2 - You seem to believe that ratting is the sole source of ISK in null, that if we can't rat, we won't make money. Then you re forgetting about moon mining; moon reacting, wormholes, empire L4, empire Factionnal Warfare, Empire trading and scamming to get ISK.
3 - You imply that we enjoy making ISK when we don't fight. this is very wrong. If people's pleasure was to make ISK, they would live in empire. The fun for null players is fight. ISK making is just the boring task we do when there is nothing else to do. Nobody will be mad for fighting T1 destroyers instead of making isk. Especially since that means using our bad ass armorHAC.
The whole point is however not too bad. It just lack a bit of understanding of the 0.0 players |
Witchmaker
Garoun Investment Bank Gallente Federation
0
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Posted - 2013.07.22 04:53:00 -
[659] - Quote
Herzog Wolfhammer wrote:Yet the irony of goons getting ganked in their own system is very overlooked even in this thread.
Which is in itself... ironic.
Do you honestly believe that Harry is the first combat pilot to make their way into vfk and "gank" the goons? Have you missed the Black Legion kills of carriers or PL/Test or 401k activity there? You appear to have bought and eaten a lot of Blue Donuts!! Considering most Goons are in B-d & now 4-E your probably seeing their alts & or pilots who jc back who are bored to tears if gudfigts aren't happening in fountain! Goons maybe, hell no maybe about, the biggest sperglords out there but they are a close knit community and make content within the game that suits them, their play style and the propaganda...you guys are just feeding the dementedness that is Goons! |
Harry Forever
SpaceJunkys
435
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Posted - 2013.07.22 08:20:00 -
[660] - Quote
Witchmaker wrote:Herzog Wolfhammer wrote:Yet the irony of goons getting ganked in their own system is very overlooked even in this thread.
Which is in itself... ironic. Do you honestly believe that Harry is the first combat pilot to make their way into vfk and "gank" the goons? Have you missed the Black Legion kills of carriers or PL/Test or 401k activity there? You appear to have bought and eaten a lot of Blue Donuts!! Considering most Goons are in B-d & now 4-E your probably seeing their alts & or pilots who jc back who are bored to tears if gudfigts aren't happening in fountain! Goons maybe, hell no maybe about, the biggest sperglords out there but they are a close knit community and make content within the game that suits them, their play style and the propaganda...you guys are just feeding the dementedness that is Goons!
sorry but what we are doing here is not comparable to what other corps or alliances did, if you are a new player and go on your own to VFK and try to hunt down goon ships, thats the highest challange there is, all find it funny that i kill cynos however that i shot down sabre and haulers and frequently engage other ships, is not seen by them because this would make their attempts early in the game worthless...
all just go to the big alliance hide in there and fell really strong about it, thats what needs to change, if people want the real deal, then they team up with us, most player just act like kids hiding behind their daddy, we provide something different for the real gamers out there...
we will keep nullsec open for new players and not lock them out of it, and we will encourage players to go there, and not just tell them its not possible... randoms need to jump in, no need to wait for a big fleet or whatever... we are open to fleetup with people we don't know or just go solo, we are the real freedome for the game... Goons Doomsday Event - 28. July |
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William Walker
House Aratus Fatal Ascension
120
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Posted - 2013.07.22 08:31:00 -
[661] - Quote
I will lead a fleet to counter your efforts, Harry. Hope to see you Sunday! |
Joepopo
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
96
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Posted - 2013.07.22 09:33:00 -
[662] - Quote
William Walker wrote:I will lead a fleet to counter your efforts, Harry. Hope to see you Sunday!
You will face a very cloaked Harry in VFK.
And then you will wish you were shooting structure in fountain instead. |
Harry Forever
SpaceJunkys
435
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Posted - 2013.07.22 09:47:00 -
[663] - Quote
Joepopo wrote:William Walker wrote:I will lead a fleet to counter your efforts, Harry. Hope to see you Sunday! You will face a very cloaked Harry in VFK. And then you will wish you were shooting structure in fountain instead.
eh Joe, whats going on again? it is out of question that you have to be in VFK on the 28. we have a honorable fight infront of Mittanigrad, like explained I will not look to the fountain area before I have my bomber skill and covert ops cloak device up and running... Goons Doomsday Event - 28. July |
Joepopo
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
96
|
Posted - 2013.07.22 09:51:00 -
[664] - Quote
Harry Forever wrote:Joepopo wrote:William Walker wrote:I will lead a fleet to counter your efforts, Harry. Hope to see you Sunday! You will face a very cloaked Harry in VFK. And then you will wish you were shooting structure in fountain instead. eh Joe, whats going on again? it is out of question that you have to be in VFK on the 28. we have a honorable fight infront of Mittanigrad, like explained I will not look to the fountain area before I have my bomber skill and covert ops cloak device up and running...
I don't think you will provide any fight to armed ships. So people shouldn't bother doing fleets to stop you because you can just stay cloaked and watch TV.
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Harry Forever
SpaceJunkys
435
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Posted - 2013.07.22 10:41:00 -
[665] - Quote
Joepopo wrote:
I don't think you will provide any fight to armed ships. So people shouldn't bother doing fleets to stop you because you can just stay cloaked and watch TV.
oh man, you have another "I'm against everything" day now... this is free for all chaos in VFK, why can you just think in big fleets?
are you guys really not able to fight on your own, this is a random event, not the big 1 vs. 1 fleet battles you are used to, you need to free yourself from that mindset
this is completely open, not restricted to, harry fleets or goon fleets or whatever, its just a day where lot of people are hunting down goons that fly around there... some will team up some will go on their own... easy Goons Doomsday Event - 28. July |
Joepopo
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
96
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Posted - 2013.07.22 12:09:00 -
[666] - Quote
Harry Forever wrote:Joepopo wrote:
I don't think you will provide any fight to armed ships. So people shouldn't bother doing fleets to stop you because you can just stay cloaked and watch TV.
oh man, you have another "I'm against everything" day now... this is free for all chaos in VFK, why can you just think in big fleets? are you guys really not able to fight on your own, this is a random event, not the big 1 vs. 1 fleet battles you are used to, you need to free yourself from that mindset this is completely open, not restricted to, harry fleets or goon fleets or whatever, its just a day where lot of people are hunting down goons that fly around there... some will team up some will go on their own... easy
Help us bring the mindset you re expecting:
Which one will you fight?
1 - 20 Wolves 2 - 20 Zealots 3 - 20 Tengus 4 - 20 Cyno 5 - 20 Caracals 6 - 20 vagabonds 7 - 20 Tornados 8 - 20 Instacanes 9 - 20 Hulks
One thing to consider: GSF is a big alliance, it is hard for us to get a fleet smaller than 20 people.
Edit: I think if we bring any of the armed ship listed here, you will just stay safely cloaked and you will be right doing so: it will successfully blueball 20 people. |
Harry Forever
SpaceJunkys
436
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Posted - 2013.07.22 12:33:00 -
[667] - Quote
Joepopo wrote:Harry Forever wrote:Joepopo wrote:
I don't think you will provide any fight to armed ships. So people shouldn't bother doing fleets to stop you because you can just stay cloaked and watch TV.
oh man, you have another "I'm against everything" day now... this is free for all chaos in VFK, why can you just think in big fleets? are you guys really not able to fight on your own, this is a random event, not the big 1 vs. 1 fleet battles you are used to, you need to free yourself from that mindset this is completely open, not restricted to, harry fleets or goon fleets or whatever, its just a day where lot of people are hunting down goons that fly around there... some will team up some will go on their own... easy Help us bring the mindset you re expecting: Which one will you fight? 1 - 20 Wolves 2 - 20 Zealots 3 - 20 Tengus 4 - 20 Cyno 5 - 20 Caracals 6 - 20 vagabonds 7 - 20 Tornados 8 - 20 Instacanes 9 - 20 Hulks One thing to consider: GSF is a big alliance, it is hard for us to get a fleet smaller than 20 people. Edit: I think if we bring any of the armed ship listed here, you will just stay safely cloaked and you will be right doing so: it will successfully blueball 20 people.
uhm you can play the game without fleeting up as well Joe, thats what the carebears are doing, it depends on the event day how many are there, lets say there are some hundred carebears in local, and you come with your 20 wolfs I'm pretty sure if one attacks one of those wolfs a crazy mob of carebears will engage as well to bring that guy down... thats the basic spirit behind it, we don't need a fleet for this, open gameplay, we find our chance to bring goons down, no matter if you fleetup or fight alone...
however i get the feeling some goons need to try a bit solo gameplay, it seems like you can not move if your FC is not telling you what to do... Goons Doomsday Event - 28. July |
William Walker
House Aratus Fatal Ascension
120
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Posted - 2013.07.22 12:42:00 -
[668] - Quote
Joepopo wrote:I don't think you will provide any fight to armed ships. So people shouldn't bother doing fleets to stop you because you can just stay cloaked and watch TV.
Which one will you fight?
I was planning on camping routes towards VFK with some instacanes and fast tackle. Do you think they'll come through EC-P8R? From the thread I reckon a few are coming so EC-P8R camping should do the job well enough. Enough people go through EC-P8R anyway, especially on Sundays.
Harry, what is your suggested route for the highsec warriors? |
Joepopo
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
96
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Posted - 2013.07.22 12:43:00 -
[669] - Quote
Harry Forever wrote: however i get the feeling some goons need to try a bit solo gameplay, it seems like you can not move if your FC is not telling you what to do...
Check the logic:
Solo player can defeat Solo player Solo player can't defeat Fleet
Fleet can defeat Solo player Fleet can defeat Fleet
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Harry Forever
SpaceJunkys
436
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Posted - 2013.07.22 12:48:00 -
[670] - Quote
William Walker wrote:Joepopo wrote:I don't think you will provide any fight to armed ships. So people shouldn't bother doing fleets to stop you because you can just stay cloaked and watch TV.
Which one will you fight?
I was planning on camping routes towards VFK with some instacanes and fast tackle. Do you think they'll come through EC-P8R? From the thread I reckon a few are coming so EC-P8R camping should do the job well enough. Enough people go through EC-P8R anyway, especially on Sundays. Harry, what is your suggested route for the highsec warriors?
no man, camping EC-P8R is no fun, the fights need to happen in VFK, you need to keep gates free, if you camp the gates that would mean you are rally scared of us... you might want to do something more honorable
however I was expecting something like this and told the carebears they might should come to VFK upfront to cloak up there for the event day... Goons Doomsday Event - 28. July |
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Harry Forever
SpaceJunkys
436
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Posted - 2013.07.22 12:49:00 -
[671] - Quote
Joepopo wrote:Harry Forever wrote: however i get the feeling some goons need to try a bit solo gameplay, it seems like you can not move if your FC is not telling you what to do...
Check the logic: Solo player can defeat Solo player Solo player can't defeat Fleet Fleet can defeat Solo player Fleet can defeat Fleet
3000 solo players kill 30 player fleet, how about that? Goons Doomsday Event - 28. July |
Joepopo
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
96
|
Posted - 2013.07.22 12:50:00 -
[672] - Quote
William Walker wrote:Joepopo wrote:I don't think you will provide any fight to armed ships. So people shouldn't bother doing fleets to stop you because you can just stay cloaked and watch TV.
Which one will you fight?
I was planning on camping routes towards VFK with some instacanes and fast tackle. Do you think they'll come through EC-P8R? From the thread I reckon a few are coming so EC-P8R camping should do the job well enough. Enough people go through EC-P8R anyway, especially on Sundays. Harry, what is your suggested route for the highsec warriors?
My apologies, excellent plan. |
Alt Elongur
Republic Military School Minmatar Republic
4
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Posted - 2013.07.22 12:51:00 -
[673] - Quote
We don't think Joe's reading comprehension is very good. Let us spell it out for him again.
F. U. N. |
Kaarous Aldurald
ROC Academy The ROC
526
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Posted - 2013.07.22 12:53:00 -
[674] - Quote
Quote:3000 solo players kill 30 player fleet, how about that?
Totally ever happened, right? I mean, it's not like the kind of people you're talking about motivating can't even muster up enough organization to get a CSM seat, right?
Wait... turns out, those people can barely play the game, let alone stand fleet and run ops like real players? Well, that kinda puts a damper on the whole Rebel Alliance vibe you had going there. Not posting on my main, and loving it.-á Because free speech.-á |
William Walker
House Aratus Fatal Ascension
121
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Posted - 2013.07.22 12:54:00 -
[675] - Quote
Harry Forever wrote:William Walker wrote:Joepopo wrote:I don't think you will provide any fight to armed ships. So people shouldn't bother doing fleets to stop you because you can just stay cloaked and watch TV.
Which one will you fight?
I was planning on camping routes towards VFK with some instacanes and fast tackle. Do you think they'll come through EC-P8R? From the thread I reckon a few are coming so EC-P8R camping should do the job well enough. Enough people go through EC-P8R anyway, especially on Sundays. Harry, what is your suggested route for the highsec warriors? no man, camping EC-P8R is no fun, the fights need to happen in VFK, you need to keep gates free, if you camp the gates that would mean you are rally scared of us... you might want to do something more honorable however I was expecting something like this and told the carebears they might should come to VFK upfront to cloak up there for the event day...
You are implying that they will make it past EC-P8R. Do you have alternative routes? Most people will just set VFK fastest route. |
Harry Forever
SpaceJunkys
436
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Posted - 2013.07.22 12:56:00 -
[676] - Quote
Joepopo wrote:William Walker wrote:Joepopo wrote:I don't think you will provide any fight to armed ships. So people shouldn't bother doing fleets to stop you because you can just stay cloaked and watch TV.
Which one will you fight?
I was planning on camping routes towards VFK with some instacanes and fast tackle. Do you think they'll come through EC-P8R? From the thread I reckon a few are coming so EC-P8R camping should do the job well enough. Enough people go through EC-P8R anyway, especially on Sundays. Harry, what is your suggested route for the highsec warriors? My apologies, excellent plan.
just another morongoonplan, you both don't get the idea behind bringing people to nullsec, it feels like you just want to keep it boring there... Goons Doomsday Event - 28. July |
Harry Forever
SpaceJunkys
436
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Posted - 2013.07.22 13:00:00 -
[677] - Quote
William Walker wrote:Harry Forever wrote:William Walker wrote:Joepopo wrote:I don't think you will provide any fight to armed ships. So people shouldn't bother doing fleets to stop you because you can just stay cloaked and watch TV.
Which one will you fight?
I was planning on camping routes towards VFK with some instacanes and fast tackle. Do you think they'll come through EC-P8R? From the thread I reckon a few are coming so EC-P8R camping should do the job well enough. Enough people go through EC-P8R anyway, especially on Sundays. Harry, what is your suggested route for the highsec warriors? no man, camping EC-P8R is no fun, the fights need to happen in VFK, you need to keep gates free, if you camp the gates that would mean you are rally scared of us... you might want to do something more honorable however I was expecting something like this and told the carebears they might should come to VFK upfront to cloak up there for the event day... You are implying that they will make it past EC-P8R. Do you have alternative routes? Most people will just set VFK fastest route.
no I'm implying that they just go to VFK a few days earlier, like me, I did go the route over 20 times alone, maybe got shot down 5 times, I'm implying we are already in VFK when you wait at gate EC-P8R with your moronfleet, understand or should i draw you a picture? Goons Doomsday Event - 28. July |
SKINE DMZ
YouView INC
58
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Posted - 2013.07.22 13:08:00 -
[678] - Quote
lol at how serious the nullbears take this, the real carebears of space.. we just like to mess around and have some fun, so hard to understand |
Alt Elongur
Republic Military School Minmatar Republic
5
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Posted - 2013.07.22 13:13:00 -
[679] - Quote
SKINE DMZ wrote:lol at how serious the nullbears take this, the real carebears of space.. we just like to mess around and have some fun, so hard to understand
They seem genuinely concerned about all this. All we want is to see what happens... and prepare prizes for round 2. And see what happens. Lather, rinse, repeat.
Most. Fun. Ever. |
William Walker
House Aratus Fatal Ascension
121
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Posted - 2013.07.22 13:21:00 -
[680] - Quote
Harry Forever wrote:no I'm implying that they just go to VFK a few days earlier, like me, I did go the route over 20 times alone, maybe got shot down 5 times, I'm implying we are already in VFK when you wait at gate EC-P8R with your moronfleet, understand or should i draw you a picture?
Like anyone wants to wait days in VFK cloaked up doing nothing. They'll come on the last minute, they always do. Anyway, good luck getting more people. I hope it's more than 10. For your sake.
I hope everyone else is not implying that I am taking this seriously. "Oh no, our cyno ship backbone" |
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Alt Elongur
Republic Military School Minmatar Republic
6
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Posted - 2013.07.22 13:28:00 -
[681] - Quote
It's not the thorn you need to worry about, it's the infection. |
SKINE DMZ
YouView INC
59
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Posted - 2013.07.22 13:30:00 -
[682] - Quote
it's very obvious how serious you take this.. seems like you have no clue about the amount of bears already living cloaked in VFK roaming around looking for null(care)bear targets to mess with, they don't seem to understand not everyone plays this game as a career like they do, but as a game simply having fun |
Harry Forever
SpaceJunkys
436
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Posted - 2013.07.22 13:45:00 -
[683] - Quote
nothing to worry about that gatecamp, I will invite bombers bar to blow them all up... they won't use their bombs on random carebears but a gatecamp sounds yummy yummy to me... Goons Doomsday Event - 28. July |
Leafar Nightfall
Grease Monkeys
7
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Posted - 2013.07.22 13:45:00 -
[684] - Quote
I don't understand Joe's argument on this
"We just take 20 ships to hunt u and then pwn ur ass"
Isn't that a win? I'd laugh myself to a heart attack if I alone made 20 goons spend 24h in alert in their tech II ships |
Joepopo
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
96
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Posted - 2013.07.22 13:49:00 -
[685] - Quote
Leafar Nightfall wrote:I don't understand Joe's argument on this
"We just take 20 ships to hunt u and then pwn ur ass"
Isn't that a win? I'd laugh myself to a heart attack if I alone made 20 goons spend 24h in alert in their tech II ships
That was my point: If we take 20 ships (and again, it is very hard to do less) you will not engage. then it is a loss of time for us. |
SKINE DMZ
YouView INC
60
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Posted - 2013.07.22 14:11:00 -
[686] - Quote
yes it is very hard to invite one of your mates and not ping on jabber to find a fleet, or to fly solo, or to say sorry we have reached the max of this fleet - it is so damn hard! everytime i ask for fleet hundreds join what to do??
if goons is full of joe's then i'm sure we will have some fun because intelligence is not very high |
Harry Forever
SpaceJunkys
436
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Posted - 2013.07.22 14:14:00 -
[687] - Quote
Joepopo wrote:Leafar Nightfall wrote:I don't understand Joe's argument on this
"We just take 20 ships to hunt u and then pwn ur ass"
Isn't that a win? I'd laugh myself to a heart attack if I alone made 20 goons spend 24h in alert in their tech II ships That was my point: If we take 20 ships (and again, it is very hard to do less) you will not engage. then it is a loss of time for us.
the only loss of time is the time you spent convincing us that we will not be able to do anything... not sure why you keep doing this over and over again, did somebody tell you you are not able to do anything in life and now you need to act the same way in a game?
you should concentrate on doing things on your own, and not keep telling others what they can not do... its their thing you know Goons Doomsday Event - 28. July |
William Walker
House Aratus Fatal Ascension
121
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Posted - 2013.07.22 14:14:00 -
[688] - Quote
Joepopo wrote:Leafar Nightfall wrote:I don't understand Joe's argument on this
"We just take 20 ships to hunt u and then pwn ur ass"
Isn't that a win? I'd laugh myself to a heart attack if I alone made 20 goons spend 24h in alert in their tech II ships That was my point: If we take 20 ships (and again, it is very hard to do less) you will not engage. then it is a loss of time for us.
Joe check out the youtube video Harry uploaded, in the OP. These guys know their stuff! |
Harry Forever
SpaceJunkys
437
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Posted - 2013.07.22 14:18:00 -
[689] - Quote
William Walker wrote:Joepopo wrote:Leafar Nightfall wrote:I don't understand Joe's argument on this
"We just take 20 ships to hunt u and then pwn ur ass"
Isn't that a win? I'd laugh myself to a heart attack if I alone made 20 goons spend 24h in alert in their tech II ships That was my point: If we take 20 ships (and again, it is very hard to do less) you will not engage. then it is a loss of time for us. Joe check out the youtube video Harry uploaded, in the OP. These guys know their stuff!
come on, show me your video what you did after one month in the game, or wait, you just keep talking about others because you did not do **** on your own... so sad
I'm not you man, if you did something better just show it, if not then just shut up Goons Doomsday Event - 28. July |
admiral root
Red Galaxy SpaceMonkey's Alliance
550
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Posted - 2013.07.22 14:37:00 -
[690] - Quote
Harry Forever wrote:we will keep nullsec open for new players and not lock them out of it, and we will encourage players to go there
So you're copying the CFC, Test and other nullsec groups, then? No, your rights end in optimal+2*falloff |
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Harry Forever
SpaceJunkys
437
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Posted - 2013.07.22 14:47:00 -
[691] - Quote
admiral root wrote:Harry Forever wrote:we will keep nullsec open for new players and not lock them out of it, and we will encourage players to go there So you're copying the CFC, Test and other nullsec groups, then?
no, we are not pushing to join corps or alliances, we are not pushing for big fleets, we are not restricting fits, we do not let them register on websites with all kind of bullshit, no silly api check, we are just here for the randoms, who jump in want to play, without all those rules and stuff the others have, more like bombers bar who just come together when they want and part again when they want to do other things, more like an open thing...
you are a high sec miner, trader or incursion runner and want to kill some stuff in nullsec, people will know where we are and just join in... and after that you might just go on doing other things...
we just point the place on the map where the horde will be, the rest is free... Goons Doomsday Event - 28. July |
Herzog Wolfhammer
Sigma Special Tactics Group
3152
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Posted - 2013.07.22 15:04:00 -
[692] - Quote
Joepopo wrote:Harry Forever wrote:Joepopo wrote:
I don't think you will provide any fight to armed ships. So people shouldn't bother doing fleets to stop you because you can just stay cloaked and watch TV.
oh man, you have another "I'm against everything" day now... this is free for all chaos in VFK, why can you just think in big fleets? are you guys really not able to fight on your own, this is a random event, not the big 1 vs. 1 fleet battles you are used to, you need to free yourself from that mindset this is completely open, not restricted to, harry fleets or goon fleets or whatever, its just a day where lot of people are hunting down goons that fly around there... some will team up some will go on their own... easy Help us bring the mindset you re expecting: Which one will you fight? 1 - 20 Wolves 2 - 20 Zealots 3 - 20 Tengus 4 - 20 Cyno 5 - 20 Caracals 6 - 20 vagabonds 7 - 20 Tornados 8 - 20 Instacanes 9 - 20 Hulks One thing to consider: GSF is a big alliance, it is hard for us to get a fleet smaller than 20 people. Edit: I think if we bring any of the armed ship listed here, you will just stay safely cloaked and you will be right doing so: it will successfully blueball 20 people.
I will be so honored if you bring that array to stop my alt in a destroyer.
By the way, my alt was in VFK for a while, and has no skills for a cloak yet, then managed to get back to Torrinos recently for some more skill books.
All this "you'll die instantly!" crap is just that, crap. |
Herzog Wolfhammer
Sigma Special Tactics Group
3153
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Posted - 2013.07.22 15:23:00 -
[693] - Quote
Kaarous Aldurald wrote:Quote:3000 solo players kill 30 player fleet, how about that? Totally ever happened, right? I mean, it's not like the kind of people you're talking about motivating can't even muster up enough organization to get a CSM seat, right? Wait... turns out, those people can barely play the game, let alone stand fleet and run ops like real players? Well, that kinda puts a damper on the whole Rebel Alliance vibe you had going there.
Has it occurred to you that if it was attempted enough times, things could improve?
Probably not.
I am seeing so much "in the box" thinking here, it's certainly answering the lifelong question I have. That question is "why do people get stuck in the same traffic in the same place at the same time every day?".
In case anybody is wondering (and seeing this thread, everybody has expectations they think are pure truth), the people behind this endeavor are not lock-step in their goals and motivations. My interest in this is to demonstrate to new players that they do not need to be cannon fodder or renter slaves to enjoy the game. Also, older players who have become entrenched with their mains are encouraged to roll an alt in an unused slot and shoot or get shot.
Yes there are some people involved (and backing this) who have a serious hatred of the goons. Their ISK is still good.
This is mainly about sparing newer players from this soul-sucked corporatist feudalism that the veterans have built. The SP system is even designed to wreck status quo (it's genius really). "how nullsec works" is what really hurts the game. It's time to make it work by throwing a monkey wrench into its gears. And if new players could be shown that they do not have to grind for ISK and gather SP for YEARS (and thus become entrenched in the false paradigms) before this fake holy grail of "going to null", it would be to their benefit. If new players can be shown that they don't get instablobbed the moment they leave highsec, they will roam (and is this not the chief gripe of the lowseccer, that nobody comes out to play with them?).
Nullsec must burn, this aspergian "srs business" world, needs to be shown that this is just a game and we are meant to shoot each other. Russians seem to grasp this most of all, but the rest of the civilized world, living in their boxes and being told what to do, being only "smart enough to do the paperwork and run the machines" as George Carlin would say, are bringing this banal corner-office worship to Eve, and only those who hide in huge alliances spew "Eve life is not real life" but they own NOTHING in game as well as out of it.
All this, will change. It is changing. The scrubs and pubbies are coming. |
Joepopo
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
97
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Posted - 2013.07.22 15:31:00 -
[694] - Quote
Herzog Wolfhammer wrote: Herzog blablabla
It s more being solo that makes it difficult to live in null sec. Having low SP is not a barrier. Going to null in a group as soon as possible is encouraged to prevent being tainted by empire mentality. |
Ace Uoweme
Republic Military School Minmatar Republic
489
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Posted - 2013.07.22 15:38:00 -
[695] - Quote
Joepopo wrote:Herzog Wolfhammer wrote: Herzog blablabla
It s more being solo that makes it difficult to live in null sec. Having low SP is not a barrier. Going to null in a group as soon as possible is encouraged to prevent being tainted by empire mentality.
Which in turn trains the worst pilots -- mouth breathers.
This is also why mouth breathers aren't policy makers...they'll kill everything for the sake of one narrow vision going nowhere.
A healthy community is a community that nurtures all aspects of game play. Which in turn attracts the gamers with varied interests, which in turn offers more humans playing than multiboxers.
"In a world of universal deceit, telling the truth is a revolutionary act." ~George Orwell
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Khergit Deserters
Crom's Angels
1365
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Posted - 2013.07.22 15:40:00 -
[696] - Quote
Goons, did you create some kind of VFK defense committee or something? It seems like things are tightening up around VFK some. T3 ships and Rattlesnakes loitering around Mittanigrad. Little bait ships wiggling their booties around. Now even a gate camp. Did you guys set up a new anti-carebear cops bureau? |
Herzog Wolfhammer
Sigma Special Tactics Group
3153
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Posted - 2013.07.22 15:50:00 -
[697] - Quote
Joepopo wrote:Herzog Wolfhammer wrote: Herzog blablabla
It s more being solo that makes it difficult to live in null sec. Having low SP is not a barrier. Going to null in a group as soon as possible is encouraged to prevent being tainted by empire mentality.
So to avoid being "tainted by empire mentality" they join a nullsec empire and take on a whole other kind of taint.
And all you have in the end, is rhetoric, and nothing has really changed.
Asymmetric warfare has broken the backs of empires. A new generation of noobs going out on their own for some PVP is not bound to be friendly to the status quo.
And nobody has to live in nullsec. I have a lock box full of stuff I got in nullsec, when I used wormholes and not recruiters to get there, returning by the same way with a hold full of loot. It's deserted out there. But in promoting that kind of exploration (made easier exponentially thanks to Odyssey) I've come up against the lies of your masters. It's as if people think their ships will automatically explode the moment they leave highsec without being in some nullsec alliance.
That "taint" you speak of, is based on the lies you live by.
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symolan
BamBam Inc.
13
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Posted - 2013.07.22 15:53:00 -
[698] - Quote
[quote=Kaarous Aldurald]Quote: Wait... turns out, those people can barely play the game, let alone stand fleet and run ops like real players? Well, that kinda puts a damper on the whole Rebel Alliance vibe you had going there.
they may barely be able to play the game... how jealous you must be to see that they nonetheless have more fun than you will ever have .
and more style.
...like "real players"...
I'm actually a bit surprised that you've not included some 1337 speak in order to prove to all of us how absolutely UBER you are. However, I'm glad that you found a place where you're significant too. |
Herzog Wolfhammer
Sigma Special Tactics Group
3153
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Posted - 2013.07.22 16:02:00 -
[699] - Quote
Joepopo wrote:Leafar Nightfall wrote:I don't understand Joe's argument on this
"We just take 20 ships to hunt u and then pwn ur ass"
Isn't that a win? I'd laugh myself to a heart attack if I alone made 20 goons spend 24h in alert in their tech II ships That was my point: If we take 20 ships (and again, it is very hard to do less) you will not engage. then it is a loss of time for us.
I want you to read your post several times Joe. |
Kaarous Aldurald
ROC Academy The ROC
531
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Posted - 2013.07.22 16:03:00 -
[700] - Quote
Quote:Has it occurred to you that if it was attempted enough times, things could improve?
Probably not.
This implies that I think, or have ever thought, that there is a problem, or a situation that needs improving. The case for that has yet to be made, aside from "sov sucks!". Yes, it does.
But the concept of nullsec is that, once taken, the people who own it make the rules. Those appear to be the thing you have issue with. Other people's rules for the area they control.
Quote:My interest in this is to demonstrate to new players that they do not need to be cannon fodder or renter slaves to enjoy the game.
All well and good, but I judge a man by the company he keeps. Your company... is not the kind of people I'd like to hang with. Harry in particular, has not accquitted himself well, at all. If I kept company with him... let's just say I would have a lot of the friends I do have.
Quote:And if new players could be shown that they do not have to grind for ISK and gather SP for YEARS (and thus become entrenched in the false paradigms) before this fake holy grail of "going to null", it would be to their benefit. If new players can be shown that they don't get instablobbed the moment they leave highsec, they will roam (and is this not the chief gripe of the lowseccer, that nobody comes out to play with them?).
Well, as a sometime lowseccer, my chief gripe is that there is no incentive for industry outside of highsec (or wormholes in which it's thoroughly forced).
I think if there were less ridiculous incentives to stay in highsec, more people would roam. I think a large part of the problem isn't just that null is intimidating (I freely admit that, to a newbie, it can be), but that highsec is too attractive.
Quote:Nullsec must burn, this aspergian "srs business" world, needs to be shown that this is just a game and we are meant to shoot each other. Russians seem to grasp this most of all, but the rest of the civilized world, living in their boxes and being told what to do, being only "smart enough to do the paperwork and run the machines" as George Carlin would say, are bringing this banal corner-office worship to Eve, and only those who hide in huge alliances spew "Eve life is not real life" but they own NOTHING in game as well as out of it.
All this, will change. It is changing. The scrubs and pubbies are coming.
Quite the populist rant you have there. I'd have to ask you if you would even be doing this if the Big Bad Wolf wasn't otherwise occupied in Fountain with the vast majority of his combat forces. Almost like admitting you couldn't do it without half of nullsec taking on your hated foe to distract him.
But I still believe my point stands. Even if we get past the argument of "how is what you're going to improve anything, what needs improving, and why?", the fact remains that you couldn't get 3000 "solo players" to show up in the same system at once, let alone engage in coordinated warfare against people who have literally had years of practice destroying people far more powerful than the disparate forces of highsec.
And if you ever succeeded in getting a force put together? Nullsec alliances will band against a common foe (they're literally doing that right now), and you will still die in a fire.
Basically, from what I can tell, you are all just blowing smoke. Not posting on my main, and loving it.-á Because free speech.-á |
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Andski
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
8441
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Posted - 2013.07.22 16:17:00 -
[701] - Quote
Herzog hates slumlords and elitist alliances and wants to take the fight to the largest entity in the game as a result, despite that said entity does not rent out space nor have selective recruitment (aside from GoonWaffe proper)
I do find that quite funny, considering that our primary enemies right now are all slumlords and, with the exception of TEST/Tribe and some N3 chaff like nexus whatever, have extremely selective "you can't play with us unless you have a nine figure SP count and x number of kills on this KB" recruitment policies Twitter: @EVEAndski
TheMittani.com: The premier source for news, commentary and discussion of EVE Online and other games of interest.-á |
Leafar Nightfall
Grease Monkeys
8
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Posted - 2013.07.22 16:18:00 -
[702] - Quote
Kaarous Aldurald wrote:And if you ever succeeded in getting a force put together? Nullsec alliances will band against a common foe (they're literally doing that right now), and you will still die in a fire.
That is so awesome that I can't think of something better to write, so I prefer to just quote it |
Khergit Deserters
Crom's Angels
1366
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Posted - 2013.07.22 16:33:00 -
[703] - Quote
Kaarous Aldurald wrote: All well and good, but I judge a man by the company he keeps. Your company... is not the kind of people I'd like to hang with. Harry in particular, has not accquitted himself well, at all. If I kept company with him... let's just say I would have a lot of the friends I do have.
But I still believe my point stands. Even if we get past the argument of "how is what you're going to improve anything, what needs improving, and why?", the fact remains that you couldn't get 3000 "solo players" to show up in the same system at once, let alone engage in coordinated warfare against people who have literally had years of practice destroying people far more powerful than the disparate forces of highsec.
And if you ever succeeded in getting a force put together? Nullsec alliances will band against a common foe (they're literally doing that right now), and you will still die in a fire.
-How can you say Harry hasn't acquitted himself well? He's deep in Goon space killing ships and getting killed. As a new player with a low-SP toon. Do you mean you don't approve of his KB efficiency? If that's your standard, you're missing the whole point. We know we're going to die-- a lot. We know there are more Goons than us, and that they have more money, better ships, and more experience than us. But we're going anyway.
-We don't expect to get 3000 solo players in coordinated warfare. It would be really stupid of us to expect that or aspire to that. The Goon machine would easily smash us if we tried to organize and do big fleets, bash hubs, put up SBUs, etc. This is irregular warfare. Solo guys or small pick-up gangs shooting small targets. It might seem pointless to you, but we enjoy it, and it's already making the Goons run a tighter ship around VFK. |
Kaarous Aldurald
ROC Academy The ROC
536
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Posted - 2013.07.22 16:55:00 -
[704] - Quote
Quote:-How can you say Harry hasn't acquitted himself well?
Well, he's kind of a shitposter, if you hadn't noticed? The rest is you ranting about the assumption you made about my non-existent love of killboards.
Quote: -We don't expect to get 3000 solo players in coordinated warfare. It would be really stupid of us to expect that or aspire to that. Even if we could manage to herd 3000 individual cats, the Goon machine would easily smash us if we tried to organize and do big fleets, bash hubs, put up SBUs, etc. This is irregular warfare. Solo guys or small pick-up gangs shooting small targets. It might seem pointless to you, but we enjoy it, and it's already making the Goons run a tighter ship around VFK.
LOL.
You at least, seem to have some idea of the futility of your actions. I wonder how it is then that several others seem to think that this is some kind of second-coming scrub revolution, and that "irregular warfare" means all of nullsec should be afraid?
Ah, and your last sentence. You are improving the combat readiness of the Goons, your ostensible enemy. The people whom so many in this thread are vehemently, slaveringly hating on. I rather doubt that your compatriots are in it for the gudfite as much as you are. Not posting on my main, and loving it.-á Because free speech.-á |
Ustrello
Amok. Goonswarm Federation
125
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Posted - 2013.07.22 16:59:00 -
[705] - Quote
Grrr...goons |
Herzog Wolfhammer
Sigma Special Tactics Group
3156
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Posted - 2013.07.22 17:00:00 -
[706] - Quote
Andski wrote:Herzog hates slumlords and elitist alliances and wants to take the fight to the largest entity in the game as a result, despite that said entity does not rent out space nor have selective recruitment (aside from GoonWaffe proper)
I do find that quite funny, considering that our primary enemies right now are all slumlords and, with the exception of TEST/Tribe and some N3 chaff like nexus whatever, have extremely selective "you can't play with us unless you have a nine figure SP count and x number of kills on this KB" recruitment policies
You are wrong.
I hate everybody equally.
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Khergit Deserters
Crom's Angels
1367
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Posted - 2013.07.22 17:11:00 -
[707] - Quote
Kaarous Aldurald wrote: LOL.
You at least, seem to have some idea of the futility of your actions. I wonder how it is then that several others seem to think that this is some kind of second-coming scrub revolution, and that "irregular warfare" means all of nullsec should be afraid?
Ah, and your last sentence. You are improving the combat readiness of the Goons, your ostensible enemy. The people whom so many in this thread are vehemently, slaveringly hating on. I rather doubt that your compatriots are in it for the gudfite as much as you are.
OK. Just to clarify, I'm not saying we don't want 3,000 highsec players in nullsec. We do want thousands of individuals in their ambushing and bushwhacking. I'm just saying we don't want to start acting like a corp or alliance. (Note: Actually I should just say "I", not "we." Everybody in this thing is an individual with his/her own opinion. That's another point of this thing).
As for getting Goons' more combat alert-- excellent, that also decreases their isk-earning productivity. Hours spent guarding the station sitting in gate camps are hours not doing something productive. The same as spending time posting in this thread is hurting my RL work productivity. |
Joepopo
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
97
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Posted - 2013.07.22 17:23:00 -
[708] - Quote
Khergit Deserters wrote:Kaarous Aldurald wrote: LOL.
You at least, seem to have some idea of the futility of your actions. I wonder how it is then that several others seem to think that this is some kind of second-coming scrub revolution, and that "irregular warfare" means all of nullsec should be afraid?
Ah, and your last sentence. You are improving the combat readiness of the Goons, your ostensible enemy. The people whom so many in this thread are vehemently, slaveringly hating on. I rather doubt that your compatriots are in it for the gudfite as much as you are.
Just to clarify, I'm not saying we don't want 3,000 highsec players in nullsec. We do want thousands of individuals in there ambushing and causing mayhem. I'm just saying we don't want to start acting like a corp or alliance. (Note: Actually I should just say "I", not "we." Everybody in this thing is an individual with his/her own opinion. I'm speaking only for myself. That's another point of this thing). As for getting Goons' more combat alert-- excellent, that also decreases their isk-earning productivity. Hours spent guarding the station or sitting in gate camps are hours spent not doing something productive. The overall impact is small for now, but as more carebears spread out through the systems....
Did you read when I gave source of isk that does not require to be in space ratting or mining in vfk? |
Kaarous Aldurald
ROC Academy The ROC
539
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Posted - 2013.07.22 17:25:00 -
[709] - Quote
Quote:OK. Just to clarify, I'm not saying we don't want 3,000 highsec players in nullsec. We do want thousands of individuals in their ambushing and bushwhacking.
But that's lowsec. At least, it would be if there was any real reason to live in lowsec, and there were people there. Nullsec is about taking control, and doing what you want to with it. If other people don't like it, screw them.
Lowsec, on the other hand, is the place for the ambushing and bushwhacking.
Quote:I'm just saying we don't want to start acting like a corp or alliance. (Note: Actually I should just say "I", not "we." Everybody in this thing is an individual with his/her own opinion. That's another point of this thing).
You know you just described a Goon, right? Only difference is, they are openly in it only for themselves, they are very insular, and unabashedly so. That's what rubs people the wrong way, they freely admit they could not give a crap about anyone but themselves, and we all know people hate honesty.
Not posting on my main, and loving it.-á Because free speech.-á |
Herzog Wolfhammer
Sigma Special Tactics Group
3157
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Posted - 2013.07.23 01:29:00 -
[710] - Quote
If the "combat readyness" of the goons have increased because of these incursions into VFK, then I say, good.
That it had to be sharpened up at all is indication of nullsec being what they say is so bad about highsec.
Since there are people from nullsec who have engaged in "emergent play" on the ground that highsec has it "too easy", it's only fair to head out to nullsec and poke them with a stick and remind them of their own doctrines.
Nevertheless, we should note that there are people on both sides having a good time. Who would say there was anything wrong with that?
And in the end, much complaints about people being "risk averse" or to some effect afraid of PVP, my agenda in this project is to find out ways to help INDIVIDUALS deal with that.
And it's the so-called casual player who is most PVP averse but are these reasons of being too much of a chicken (I have chickens and those little buggers can be fearless BTW) or fearing loss? A casual player may be doing their gaming at the end of the day, when trying to wind down, so being new to PVP while trying to wind down at the end of a long day is usually not good idea. So events like the one Harry is putting together, and drawing out some more daring bears for this, will hopefully get people to be more calm during PVP and therefore not so averse to it.
Still, I cannot understand the hate. I was under the impression that the nullsec community would welcome these ideas. Goons most of all even, for they tend to relish in this sort of activity - at least when they are not the target of it.
Ah well, there will be more. This is just the beginning. We are already seeing things change out there, all because of some noobs in destroyers and frigates. You can't find a better game than this. |
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Onictus
Silver Snake Enterprise Fatal Ascension
316
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Posted - 2013.07.23 01:32:00 -
[711] - Quote
I doubt the mind at all.
Its kind of awwwww that cute. Generally you guys are no more than an annoyance when people have other things that they need to do.
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Khergit Deserters
Crom's Angels
1373
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Posted - 2013.07.23 01:51:00 -
[712] - Quote
Highsec newcomers, a quick briefing if you haven't been following: -Get in an affordable ship. Fit a cloak if you like. Cloaks are good for extended behind the lines operations, but not essential for more experienced people. -Set destination for VFK_IV. Check your map for recent pod kills. If you see a glowing camp spot, consider your options. Decide whether to chance it or let them sit there bored. Relax, run a mission, do your exploration fu, mining, whatever. you like. Fit up your stable of reserve ships, take a smoke break, whatever. Come back and check your map again. Note where bored campers said "Bye guys, got to go." -Plot your route. Remember your objective is to get past the highsec-nullsec border systems and get deeper into Goon systems. Any Goon system will work. Get there, throw down your sleeping bag, and plan on living there for awhile. Now you're in the bush and ready to go in any direction. -Hang out in SpaceJunkys chat channel. Join up with other nature campers for combined shooting. Or tell jokes and post videos. Or just hang out and do your own thing, with your brethren. -Watch out for lame spais in SpaceJunkys. No need to be paranoid-- you can spot them by the way they don't say anything, or are just all around bad actors. Again, no need to be overly suspicious. We kn -Pick off locals. Say hello in Local first, if you like. They're mostly pretty friendly, some have pretty good b.s.. Send them to their reward in Goonvana, or see if they can manage to catch you and send you to 'Bear Mountain. If they do, suit up and do it again! That's what we do. -Don't forget to entertain a Goon while you're at it. Damn they're bored.
Last note: Be in VFK before July 28 for the Goons Doomsday shoot-out event. They're looking forward to it at least as much as we are.
o7 |
Khergit Deserters
Crom's Angels
1373
|
Posted - 2013.07.23 02:00:00 -
[713] - Quote
Onictus wrote:I doubt the mind at all.
Its kind of awwwww that cute. Generally you guys are no more than an annoyance when people have other things that they need to do.
Thanks for the kudos man. Being an annoyance when people have other things that they need to do is what we do best. Don't worry, we've got a huge supply of annoyance, we'll keep it coming. |
Onictus
Silver Snake Enterprise Fatal Ascension
319
|
Posted - 2013.07.23 02:08:00 -
[714] - Quote
Khergit Deserters wrote:Onictus wrote:I doubt the mind at all.
Its kind of awwwww that cute. Generally you guys are no more than an annoyance when people have other things that they need to do.
Thanks for the kudos man. Being an annoyance when people have other things that they need to do is what we do best. Don't worry, we've got a huge supply of annoyance, we'll keep it coming.
Dude you understand loosing 25 ships usually happens in about 5 minutes under normal circumstances. |
Khergit Deserters
Crom's Angels
1374
|
Posted - 2013.07.23 02:12:00 -
[715] - Quote
Onictus wrote:Khergit Deserters wrote:Onictus wrote:I doubt the mind at all.
Its kind of awwwww that cute. Generally you guys are no more than an annoyance when people have other things that they need to do.
Thanks for the kudos man. Being an annoyance when people have other things that they need to do is what we do best. Don't worry, we've got a huge supply of annoyance, we'll keep it coming. Dude you understand loosing 25 ships usually happens in about 5 minutes under normal circumstances. Sure. Fit 'em up, be ready for any doctrine, get in and go. Or how about, "Crap, i died on the way to the fleet"? |
Herzog Wolfhammer
Sigma Special Tactics Group
3157
|
Posted - 2013.07.23 02:16:00 -
[716] - Quote
Onictus wrote:I doubt the mind at all.
Its kind of awwwww that cute. Generally you guys are no more than an annoyance when people have other things that they need to do.
Yes I recall the goons being a mere "annoyance" in Jita. Seriously, the only thing that bothered anybody was the TD in the adjacent systems. But, when people said "Burn what?" it was assumed that everybody was crying in their beer over the matter.
So if we can get some annoyance, that's fine. But this is a sandbox after all, right?
Shakespeare wrote:Methinks thou dost protest too much
Onictus wrote:Dude you understand loosing 25 ships usually happens in about 5 minutes under normal circumstances.
That's a normal circumstance for a large standing force fighting in a war of attrition. In Fourth Generation Warfare, denying a superior force their "normal circumstances" is key. Don't expect us to fleet up and meet you head on. |
Khergit Deserters
Crom's Angels
1376
|
Posted - 2013.07.23 02:23:00 -
[717] - Quote
Herzog Wolfhammer wrote:If the "combat readyness" of the goons have increased because of these incursions into VFK, then I say, good.
That it had to be sharpened up at all is indication of nullsec being what they say is so bad about highsec.
Since there are people from nullsec who have engaged in "emergent play" on the ground that highsec has it "too easy", it's only fair to head out to nullsec and poke them with a stick and remind them of their own doctrines.
Nevertheless, we should note that there are people on both sides having a good time. Who would say there was anything wrong with that?
And in the end, much complaints about people being "risk averse" or to some effect afraid of PVP, my agenda in this project is to find out ways to help INDIVIDUALS deal with that.
And it's the so-called casual player who is most PVP averse but are these reasons of being too much of a chicken (I have chickens and those little buggers can be fearless BTW) or fearing loss? A casual player may be doing their gaming at the end of the day, when trying to wind down, so being new to PVP while trying to wind down at the end of a long day is usually not good idea. So events like the one Harry is putting together, and drawing out some more daring bears for this, will hopefully get people to be more calm during PVP and therefore not so averse to it.
Still, I cannot understand the hate. I was under the impression that the nullsec community would welcome these ideas. Goons most of all even, for they tend to relish in this sort of activity - at least when they are not the target of it.
Ah well, there will be more. This is just the beginning. We are already seeing things change out there, all because of some noobs in destroyers and frigates. You can't find a better game than this. ^ Recommending this post as a well-balanced insightful one fair to all sides. Give it a read I'd say. Mine, meant as propaganda warfare-- bring it on.
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Onictus
Silver Snake Enterprise Fatal Ascension
319
|
Posted - 2013.07.23 02:33:00 -
[718] - Quote
Harry Forever wrote:they missed me!! :DD I'm engaging their front door!! :DD
If you are looking for the Goons in VFK you are missing by like 5 regions. Come play in Fountain. |
Khergit Deserters
Crom's Angels
1377
|
Posted - 2013.07.23 02:38:00 -
[719] - Quote
We'll be all around Fountain. In, around, and in between. Here, There, and Everywhere. -Sung by The Beatles, Sun Tzu, and your psycho ex-girlfriend |
Onictus
Silver Snake Enterprise Fatal Ascension
319
|
Posted - 2013.07.23 02:42:00 -
[720] - Quote
Herzog Wolfhammer wrote: That's a normal circumstance for a large standing force fighting in a war of attrition. In Fourth Generation Warfare, denying a superior force their "normal circumstances" is key. Don't expect us to fleet up and meet you head on.
No that is people ******* around on the undock. |
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Daimon Kaiera
Kraken.
377
|
Posted - 2013.07.23 02:45:00 -
[721] - Quote
Khergit Deserters wrote:We'll be all around Fountain. In, around, and in between. Here, There, and Everywhere. -Sung by The Beatles, Sun Tzu, and your psycho ex-girlfriend
You say that as if some of us could have girlfriends in the first place. .... . .-.. .--. / .. / .... .- ...- . / ..-. .- .-.. .-.. . -. / .- -. -.. / .. / -.-. .- -. -. --- - / --. . - / ..- .--. / ... - --- .--. - .... .. ... / ... .. --. -. .- - ..- .-. . / .. -.. . .- / .. ... / -. --- - / ... - --- .-.. . -. / ... - --- .--. |
Khergit Deserters
Crom's Angels
1377
|
Posted - 2013.07.23 02:46:00 -
[722] - Quote
Yeah, we do that too. Damn this shite is fun! |
Khergit Deserters
Crom's Angels
1377
|
Posted - 2013.07.23 02:53:00 -
[723] - Quote
Daimon Kaiera wrote:Khergit Deserters wrote:We'll be all around Fountain. In, around, and in between. Here, There, and Everywhere. -Sung by The Beatles, Sun Tzu, and your psycho ex-girlfriend You say that as if some of us could have girlfriends in the first place. Bah, girlfriends, easily had. Just requires a little total devotion and particular care to psychological needs, with a few fine adjustments along the way. Piece of cake for an EVE warrior! |
Harry Forever
SpaceJunkys
449
|
Posted - 2013.07.23 07:57:00 -
[724] - Quote
Onictus wrote:I doubt the mind at all.
Its kind of awwwww that cute. Generally you guys are no more than an annoyance when people have other things that they need to do.
awww, important goon number 5395 telling us he's doing important stuff, sweet... Goons Doomsday Event - 28. July |
Harry Forever
SpaceJunkys
449
|
Posted - 2013.07.23 08:06:00 -
[725] - Quote
Khergit Deserters wrote:Highsec newcomers, a quick briefing if you haven't been following: -Get in an affordable ship. Fit a cloak if you like. Cloaks are good for extended behind the lines operations, but not essential for more experienced people. -Set destination for VFK_IV. Check your map for recent pod kills. If you see a glowing camp spot, consider your options. Decide whether to chance it or let them sit there bored. If you don't like the current scene, relax. Run a mission, do your exploration, whatever you're working on. Fit up your stable of reserve ships, take a smoke break, whatever. Come back and check your map again when you're ready. You'll see where some bored campers said, "Err, got to go, bye guys good luck." -Plot your route. Remember your objective is to get past the highsec-nullsec border systems and get deeper into Goon systems. Any Goon system will work. Get there, throw down your sleeping bag, and plan on living there for awhile. Now you're in the bush and ready to go in any direction. -Hang out in SpaceJunkys chat channel. Join up with other nature campers for combined shooting. Or tell jokes and post videos. Or just hang out and do your own thing, with your brethren. -Watch out for lame spais in SpaceJunkys. No need to be paranoid-- you can spot them by the way they don't say anything, or are just all around bad actors. Again, no need to be overly suspicious. We know who's who. -Pick off locals in Goon space. Say hello in Local first, if you like. They're mostly pretty friendly, some have pretty good b.s.. Send them to their reward in Goonvana, or see if they can manage to catch you and send you to 'Bear Mountain. If they do, suit up and do it again! That's what we do. -Don't forget to entertain a Goon while you're at it. Damn they're bored. Last note: Be in VFK before July 28 for the Goons Doomsday shoot-out event. They're looking forward to it at least as much as we are. o7
nice one Khergit, had a blast yesterday and setup a "Treasure Box" with one shell of my bullets in there :D goon slowley sneaked up on it to find the hidden goody, was so funny some really looked at it, just jettison one round or some other stuff and give the box a funny name :D nothing better then giving goons important things to do :) ...he was a cool guy though had a good laugh about it in local :D Goons Doomsday Event - 28. July |
Joepopo
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
97
|
Posted - 2013.07.23 08:58:00 -
[726] - Quote
Harry Forever wrote: had a blast yesterday and setup a "Treasure Box" with one shell of my bullets in there :D
This does sound like high sec PVP.
Or is it the Fourth Generation Karma righteous asymmetric warfare of attrition paradigm Herzog has been talking about? |
Harry Forever
SpaceJunkys
449
|
Posted - 2013.07.23 09:27:00 -
[727] - Quote
Joepopo wrote:Harry Forever wrote: had a blast yesterday and setup a "Treasure Box" with one shell of my bullets in there :D This does sound like high sec PVP. Or is it the Fourth Generation Karma righteous asymmetric warfare of attrition paradigm Herzog has been talking about?
you are again very short sighted Joe, what do you think would fly into the direction of the box when I'm finally sitting in my bomber? I'm at the moment still just gathering intel on the goblins in goonland...
knowing a lot about their behaviour patterns will be useful as soon as my skilltraining finished... Goons Doomsday Event - 28. July |
OldWolf69
IR0N. SpaceMonkey's Alliance
65
|
Posted - 2013.07.23 11:13:00 -
[728] - Quote
Harry Forever wrote:Joepopo wrote:Harry Forever wrote: had a blast yesterday and setup a "Treasure Box" with one shell of my bullets in there :D This does sound like high sec PVP. Or is it the Fourth Generation Karma righteous asymmetric warfare of attrition paradigm Herzog has been talking about? you are again very short sighted Joe, what do you think would fly into the direction of the box when I'm finally sitting in my bomber? at the moment I'm just gathering intel on the goblins in goonland... knowing a lot about their behaviour patterns will be useful as soon as my skilltraining finished... The boyz there have a bad habbit to use instalocking boats, you aware arent'ya Harry? |
Harry Forever
SpaceJunkys
450
|
Posted - 2013.07.23 11:17:00 -
[729] - Quote
OldWolf69 wrote:Harry Forever wrote:Joepopo wrote:Harry Forever wrote: had a blast yesterday and setup a "Treasure Box" with one shell of my bullets in there :D This does sound like high sec PVP. Or is it the Fourth Generation Karma righteous asymmetric warfare of attrition paradigm Herzog has been talking about? you are again very short sighted Joe, what do you think would fly into the direction of the box when I'm finally sitting in my bomber? at the moment I'm just gathering intel on the goblins in goonland... knowing a lot about their behaviour patterns will be useful as soon as my skilltraining finished... The boyz there have a bad habbit to use instalocking boats, you aware arent'ya Harry?
I have a bad habbit of using warp stabs :D god they are screaming when I just fly away, they hate that **** Goons Doomsday Event - 28. July |
OldWolf69
IR0N. SpaceMonkey's Alliance
66
|
Posted - 2013.07.23 11:22:00 -
[730] - Quote
I would say a instacane can blap you before you can warp. Just for you to know. |
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Harry Forever
SpaceJunkys
450
|
Posted - 2013.07.23 11:31:00 -
[731] - Quote
OldWolf69 wrote:I would say a instacane can blap you before you can warp. Just for you to know.
yea have seen those, I would not engage them in my destroyer, I concentrate more on frigs and hauler...
with the bomber I'm not sure yet, maybe try shooting one from the distance... but I might just stay away from them until I'm sitting in a tengu :) Goons Doomsday Event - 28. July |
Joepopo
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
97
|
Posted - 2013.07.23 12:09:00 -
[732] - Quote
Harry Forever wrote:OldWolf69 wrote:I would say a instacane can blap you before you can warp. Just for you to know. yea have seen those, I would not engage them in my destroyer, I concentrate more on frigs and hauler... with the bomber I'm not sure yet, maybe try shooting one from the distance... but I might just stay away from them until I'm sitting in a tengu :) edit: actually I might even build one of those instacane as well, sounds useful for my mission
I klnow you hate when i tell you you can't do something but:
You can't make a cloaky instacane with warp core stabilizers. |
Harry Forever
SpaceJunkys
450
|
Posted - 2013.07.23 12:40:00 -
[733] - Quote
Joepopo wrote:Harry Forever wrote:OldWolf69 wrote:I would say a instacane can blap you before you can warp. Just for you to know. yea have seen those, I would not engage them in my destroyer, I concentrate more on frigs and hauler... with the bomber I'm not sure yet, maybe try shooting one from the distance... but I might just stay away from them until I'm sitting in a tengu :) edit: actually I might even build one of those instacane as well, sounds useful for my mission I klnow you hate when i tell you you can't do something but: You can't make a cloaky instacane with warp core stabilizers.
who said I make them cloaky with stab? Goons Doomsday Event - 28. July |
embrel
State War Academy Caldari State
0
|
Posted - 2013.07.23 14:20:00 -
[734] - Quote
Joepopo wrote:Harry Forever wrote: had a blast yesterday and setup a "Treasure Box" with one shell of my bullets in there :D This does sound like high sec PVP. Or is it the Fourth Generation Karma righteous asymmetric warfare of attrition paradigm Herzog has been talking about?
you know, carebearing might be contagious. so it's quite a danger you take letting the bears run free on your lawn.
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Herzog Wolfhammer
Sigma Special Tactics Group
3161
|
Posted - 2013.07.23 15:28:00 -
[735] - Quote
Harry Forever wrote:Khergit Deserters wrote:Highsec newcomers, a quick briefing if you haven't been following: -Get in an affordable ship. Fit a cloak if you like. Cloaks are good for extended behind the lines operations, but not essential for more experienced people. -Set destination for VFK_IV. Check your map for recent pod kills. If you see a glowing camp spot, consider your options. Decide whether to chance it or let them sit there bored. If you don't like the current scene, relax. Run a mission, do your exploration, whatever you're working on. Fit up your stable of reserve ships, take a smoke break, whatever. Come back and check your map again when you're ready. You'll see where some bored campers said, "Err, got to go, bye guys good luck." -Plot your route. Remember your objective is to get past the highsec-nullsec border systems and get deeper into Goon systems. Any Goon system will work. Get there, throw down your sleeping bag, and plan on living there for awhile. Now you're in the bush and ready to go in any direction. -Hang out in SpaceJunkys chat channel. Join up with other nature campers for combined shooting. Or tell jokes and post videos. Or just hang out and do your own thing, with your brethren. -Watch out for lame spais in SpaceJunkys. No need to be paranoid-- you can spot them by the way they don't say anything, or are just all around bad actors. Again, no need to be overly suspicious. We know who's who. -Pick off locals in Goon space. Say hello in Local first, if you like. They're mostly pretty friendly, some have pretty good b.s.. Send them to their reward in Goonvana, or see if they can manage to catch you and send you to 'Bear Mountain. If they do, suit up and do it again! That's what we do. -Don't forget to entertain a Goon while you're at it. Damn they're bored. Last note: Be in VFK before July 28 for the Goons Doomsday shoot-out event. They're looking forward to it at least as much as we are. o7 nice one Khergit, had a blast yesterday and setup a "Treasure Box" with one shell of my bullets in there :D goon slowley sneaked up on it to find the hidden goody, was so funny some really looked at it, just jettison one round or some other stuff and give the box a funny name :D nothing better then giving goons important things to do :) ...he was a cool guy though had a good laugh about it in local :D
Ah the old "shiney object trick". Works well on the weak-minded.
One of the sayings I have survived the real world by: "You can always count on the ignorance of your enemy". |
Herzog Wolfhammer
Sigma Special Tactics Group
3161
|
Posted - 2013.07.23 15:36:00 -
[736] - Quote
Harry Forever wrote:Joepopo wrote:Harry Forever wrote:OldWolf69 wrote:I would say a instacane can blap you before you can warp. Just for you to know. yea have seen those, I would not engage them in my destroyer, I concentrate more on frigs and hauler... with the bomber I'm not sure yet, maybe try shooting one from the distance... but I might just stay away from them until I'm sitting in a tengu :) edit: actually I might even build one of those instacane as well, sounds useful for my mission I klnow you hate when i tell you you can't do something but: You can't make a cloaky instacane with warp core stabilizers. who said I make them cloaky with stab?
Cloaky stabbed anything larger than a frigate is going to have a very long lock time on anything smaller than a BS. Double stabs nerf range heinously (at least you can fit for short range) and cloak nerfs lock time.
Running loose numbers on a well-tanked cane and the damage a bomber can do gives me the impression that the cane will survive.
It's no matter though, we have plenty of bombers and Harry will likely have an enviable great time experimenting. Yes, someone else supplies them. I don't know their exact reasons nor who they are, but I suspect they have taken a mild dislike to the goons. The old saying of "ask and you shall receive" works well.
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Onictus
Silver Snake Enterprise Fatal Ascension
324
|
Posted - 2013.07.23 16:40:00 -
[737] - Quote
Harry Forever wrote:Onictus wrote:I doubt the mind at all.
Its kind of awwwww that cute. Generally you guys are no more than an annoyance when people have other things that they need to do.
awww, important goon number 5395 telling us he's doing important stuff, sweet...
LOL I haven't been north in 6 weeks, no skin off my ass. |
Gaellia Bonaventure
Royal Amarr Institute Amarr Empire
1357
|
Posted - 2013.07.23 16:44:00 -
[738] - Quote
Herzog Wolfhammer wrote:
Still, I cannot understand the hate. I was under the impression that the nullsec community would welcome these ideas. Goons most of all even, for they tend to relish in this sort of activity - at least when they are not the target of it.
That's the crux of the social and psychological dynamic at work. Bullies often sing a different tune when confronted by someone willing to stand up to them. It challenges their worldview and they don''t have the emotional capacity to understand why someone would question their activities. Cognitive dissonance is a foundational aspect of their ideology, and other types of emergent game play challenge their own narrow social views.
That's why they are bullies.
Bring your possibles. |
Onictus
Silver Snake Enterprise Fatal Ascension
324
|
Posted - 2013.07.23 16:45:00 -
[739] - Quote
Gaellia Bonaventure wrote:Herzog Wolfhammer wrote:
Still, I cannot understand the hate. I was under the impression that the nullsec community would welcome these ideas. Goons most of all even, for they tend to relish in this sort of activity - at least when they are not the target of it.
That's the crux of the social and psychological dynamic at work. Bullies often sing a different tune when confronted by someone willing to stand up to them. It challenges their worldview and they don''t have the emotional capacity to understand why someone would question their activities. Cognitive dissonance is a foundational aspect of their ideology, and other types of emergent game play challenge their own narrow social views. That's why they are bullies.
6 dudes shooting cyno frigs is hardly "standing up" to the CFC. |
Ace Uoweme
Republic Military School Minmatar Republic
496
|
Posted - 2013.07.23 17:31:00 -
[740] - Quote
Harry Forever wrote:knowing a lot about their behaviour patterns will be useful as soon as my skilltraining finished...
Learn more about the Hivemind. "In a world of universal deceit, telling the truth is a revolutionary act." ~George Orwell
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Harry Forever
SpaceJunkys
462
|
Posted - 2013.07.23 17:42:00 -
[741] - Quote
here some more footage from the front, look closely how i shoot down that PI hauler infront of mittanigrad... engage a leagon afterwards, bomb some stuff with the russians, chase iterons, escape a vexor with 10% structure just to engage another ship seconds after it, thats what i call hungry for goon kills... sabre escaping, torpedos flying... and i even mixed in some cynokills to keep everybody happy
http://youtu.be/RRPSZkBCeN8 Goons Doomsday Event - 28. July |
Herzog Wolfhammer
Sigma Special Tactics Group
3164
|
Posted - 2013.07.23 18:32:00 -
[742] - Quote
Harry Forever wrote:here some more footage from the front, look closely how i shoot down that PI hauler infront of mittanigrad... engage a leagon afterwards, bomb some stuff with the russians, chase iterons, escape a vexor with 10% structure just to engage another ship seconds after it, thats what i call hungry for goon kills... sabre escaping, torpedos flying... and i even mixed in some cynokills to keep everybody happy http://youtu.be/RRPSZkBCeN8
EPIC
Hmm - stabs, web.. cloak - hey guys that's a PVP fit and you don't need to spend years grinding ISK, racking up SPs, and then join a nullsec alliance to use those things.
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Harry Forever
SpaceJunkys
462
|
Posted - 2013.07.23 18:37:00 -
[743] - Quote
Herzog Wolfhammer wrote:Harry Forever wrote:here some more footage from the front, look closely how i shoot down that PI hauler infront of mittanigrad... engage a leagon afterwards, bomb some stuff with the russians, chase iterons, escape a vexor with 10% structure just to engage another ship seconds after it, thats what i call hungry for goon kills... sabre escaping, torpedos flying... and i even mixed in some cynokills to keep everybody happy http://youtu.be/RRPSZkBCeN8 EPIC Hmm - stabs, web.. cloak - hey guys that's a PVP fit and you don't need to spend years grinding ISK, racking up SPs, and then join a nullsec alliance to use those things.
I recommend everybody using 2 stab early on, its perfect to try and engage some solo frigs and in case you are not able to make it, warp out and try the next one... perfect for training, and it makes going to VFK worth it because you survive longer...
perfect to gain experience... everybody in null will tell you its stupid to put those on, because they can not grab you then if you just engage solo targets, thats what they hate the most, their advantge is gone and you can use them just as sparring partners :D
for a newb this is perfect because you can go there and engage multible fights without dying, good for motivation and sometimes you even get a kill... Goons Doomsday Event - 28. July |
Khergit Deserters
Crom's Angels
1384
|
Posted - 2013.07.23 19:03:00 -
[744] - Quote
Harry Forever wrote:Herzog Wolfhammer wrote:Harry Forever wrote:here some more footage from the front, look closely how i shoot down that PI hauler infront of mittanigrad... engage a leagon afterwards, bomb some stuff with the russians, chase iterons, escape a vexor with 10% structure just to engage another ship seconds after it, thats what i call hungry for goon kills... sabre escaping, torpedos flying... and i even mixed in some cynokills to keep everybody happy http://youtu.be/RRPSZkBCeN8 EPIC Hmm - stabs, web.. cloak - hey guys that's a PVP fit and you don't need to spend years grinding ISK, racking up SPs, and then join a nullsec alliance to use those things. I recommend everybody using 2 stab early on, its perfect to try and engage some solo frigs and in case you are not able to make it, warp out and try the next one... perfect for training, and it makes going to VFK worth it because you survive longer... perfect to gain experience... everybody in null will tell you its stupid to put those on, because they can not grab you then if you just engage solo targets, thats what they hate the most, their advantge is gone and you can use them just as sparring partners :D for a newb this is perfect because you can go there and engage multible fights without dying, good for motivation and sometimes you even get a kill... there are even NPC stations around where you can repair armor or structure of your ship in case you got damaged... with this tactic i can fight, get kills and do not loose ships very often... I do not even have to leave null and go back through the problematic first gatecamps... just safe logoff in VFK, thats how everybody should do it LOL, excellent vid Harry! Send us a message with the locations of the NPC stations. Very useful for staying out in the field longer.
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admiral root
Red Galaxy SpaceMonkey's Alliance
550
|
Posted - 2013.07.23 20:05:00 -
[745] - Quote
Khergit Deserters wrote:Send us a message with the locations of the NPC stations. Very useful for staying out in the field longer.
Because looking it up on Dotlan is hard. No, your rights end in optimal+2*falloff |
Herzog Wolfhammer
Sigma Special Tactics Group
3165
|
Posted - 2013.07.23 20:07:00 -
[746] - Quote
admiral root wrote:Khergit Deserters wrote:Send us a message with the locations of the NPC stations. Very useful for staying out in the field longer.
Because looking it up on Dotlan is hard.
^ He secretly wants to help...
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Harry Forever
SpaceJunkys
463
|
Posted - 2013.07.23 20:08:00 -
[747] - Quote
Herzog Wolfhammer wrote:admiral root wrote:Khergit Deserters wrote:Send us a message with the locations of the NPC stations. Very useful for staying out in the field longer.
Because looking it up on Dotlan is hard. ^ He secretly wants to help...
:DD Goons Doomsday Event - 28. July |
Khergit Deserters
Crom's Angels
1387
|
Posted - 2013.07.23 20:17:00 -
[748] - Quote
admiral root wrote:Khergit Deserters wrote:Send us a message with the locations of the NPC stations. Very useful for staying out in the field longer.
Because looking it up on Dotlan is hard. Good idea-- thanks! |
Alt Elongur
We Don't Like Bullies
9
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Posted - 2013.07.24 01:04:00 -
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Harry Forever wrote:here some more footage from the front, look closely how i shoot down that PI hauler infront of mittanigrad... engage a leagon afterwards, bomb some stuff with the russians, chase iterons, escape a vexor with 10% structure just to engage another ship seconds after it, thats what i call hungry for goon kills... sabre escaping, torpedos flying... and i even mixed in some cynokills to keep everybody happy http://youtu.be/RRPSZkBCeN8
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Leafar Nightfall
Grease Monkeys
11
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Posted - 2013.07.24 03:45:00 -
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I just moved some assets in preparatin for the event. I'll be burning some ships on VFK until them, either mine or theirs |
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Harry Forever
SpaceJunkys
464
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Posted - 2013.07.24 06:52:00 -
[751] - Quote
Leafar Nightfall wrote:I just moved some assets in preparatin for the event. I'll be burning some ships on VFK until them, either mine or theirs
assure you bring that "special" item and make a screenshot as soon as you did deploy it! :D Goons Doomsday Event - 28. July |
Khanh'rhh
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
1997
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Posted - 2013.07.24 22:09:00 -
[752] - Quote
Good christ no.
Stabs are an awful idea. You're in a Gallente ship which needs to maximize it's low slots, and you have thrown 66% of them away. It's actually worse than not even fully fitting your ship, since you have gimped other core attributes.
That fit will lose awfully to any properly fit destroyer, or just about anything else. It's a dire, dire way to try to learn PVP because you have absolutely no idea of your engagement envelope as you're kicking it in the head three ways to Sunday.
You learn PVP by properly fitting cheap ships and losing them in combat. You're dual-stabbing a throwaway ship which is a frankly bizarre mindset - it's worth losing ships for the actual chance to kill things instead of losing due to your massively gimped setup.
Harry, I know you won't change what you're doing because you're a special blend of clueless and stubborn but if anyone else is reading this and wondering how to learn PVP, then for pity's sake do it in RvB or something and learn how to fly fully fit ships.
There's a reason this guy just films himself shooting noob ships and dying to anything else and it has nothing to do with a lack of SP or ISK. "Do not touch anything unnecessarily. Beware of pretty girls in dance halls and parks who may be spies, as well as bicycles, revolvers, uniforms, arms, dead horses, and men lying on roads -- they are not there accidentally." -Soviet infantry manual, issued in the 1930 |
Herzog Wolfhammer
Sigma Special Tactics Group
3173
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Posted - 2013.07.24 22:21:00 -
[753] - Quote
Khanh'rhh wrote:Good christ no.
Stabs are an awful idea. You're in a Gallente ship which needs to maximize it's low slots, and you have thrown 66% of them away. It's actually worse than not even fully fitting your ship, since you have gimped other core attributes.
That fit will lose awfully to any properly fit destroyer, or just about anything else. It's a dire, dire way to try to learn PVP because you have absolutely no idea of your engagement envelope as you're kicking it in the head three ways to Sunday.
You learn PVP by properly fitting cheap ships and losing them in combat. You're dual-stabbing a throwaway ship which is a frankly bizarre mindset - it's worth losing ships for the actual chance to kill things instead of losing due to your massively gimped setup.
Harry, I know you won't change what you're doing because you're a special blend of clueless and stubborn but if anyone else is reading this and wondering how to learn PVP, then for pity's sake do it in RvB or something and learn how to fly fully fit ships.
There's a reason this guy just films himself shooting noob ships and dying to anything else and it has nothing to do with a lack of SP or ISK.
But there are so many goons, why not experiment on them?
They are like potato chips, these goons. You can't eat just one.
The stabs are denying a kill to the enemy. We can look at it this way: if he kills one ship, then runs off, he lives to fight another day. Of course it's a throwaway ship. Is there any need to tank it? Keeping a destroyer in one piece in solo PVP is hard. Heck it's hard enough to tank with one in PVe. I would consider them to be fleet support more than anything else.
So to get a kill, and then deny a kill to the enemy, is like a kill + 1. Think of it as a "dollar not spent is two dollars saved: the dollar you didn't spend and the dollar you still have".
But would we also not argue that perhaps the stabs are his tank? I've seen effective claims that "DPS is also tank" because the faster you remove enemy DPS the less DPS you experience. Are you saying that he would have equal chance putting modules into DPS instead of escape, or that the combination of turrets and "travel fit dual stabs" is a kind of omni-tanking (a big no no in the game it seems)?
In the meantime, new paradigms of PVP and asymmetric warfare are at play here, so unconventional fittings are going to happen. I have some experiments in the hangar myself. I don't kid myself: they are more likely to be comedy kill mails than anything else, but it's a game after all and a sandbox too.
We can do what we want and find success through trial and error.
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Khanh'rhh
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
1997
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Posted - 2013.07.24 23:03:00 -
[754] - Quote
There's no logic in 'denying' someone a T1 destroyer kill as it's completely worthless by any metric - people don't even bother posting the kills, or those of cyno ships. Whether he escapes and re-ships or explodes is irrelevent as he's not going to run out of ISK losing them, and I suppose someone is paying for it for him anyway.
Yes, it is effecive in "kill something intrinsicly worthless, and escape" but the problem there is your entire target selection remains such. If he wants to do something like, say, catch a ratting ship and take it out (possible in destroyers, very handily in fact) then stabbed up cloaky fits are pointless.
I know you probably think "AHA! Look! he doesn't want you to use stabs because he wants to catch you!" but really nothing could be further from the truth - there's a very good reason the standing logic is "stabs always bad except for travel" that you really don't need to discover yourself by losing them.
Or worse in my estimation - losing opportunities for kills / damage because your fit is too risk averse to be effective. "Do not touch anything unnecessarily. Beware of pretty girls in dance halls and parks who may be spies, as well as bicycles, revolvers, uniforms, arms, dead horses, and men lying on roads -- they are not there accidentally." -Soviet infantry manual, issued in the 1930 |
Herzog Wolfhammer
Sigma Special Tactics Group
3173
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Posted - 2013.07.24 23:17:00 -
[755] - Quote
Khanh'rhh wrote:There's no logic in 'denying' someone a T1 destroyer kill as it's completely worthless by any metric - people don't even bother posting the kills, or those of cyno ships. Whether he escapes and re-ships or explodes is irrelevant as he's not going to run out of ISK losing them, and I suppose someone is paying for it for him anyway.
Yes, it is effective in "kill something intrinsicly worthless, and escape" but the problem there is your entire target selection remains such. If he wants to do something like, say, catch a ratting ship and take it out (possible in destroyers, very handily in fact) then stabbed up cloaky fits are pointless.
I know you probably think "AHA! Look! he doesn't want you to use stabs because he wants to catch you!" but really nothing could be further from the truth - there's a very good reason the standing logic is "stabs always bad except for travel" that you really don't need to discover yourself by losing them.
Or worse in my estimation - losing opportunities for kills / damage because your fit is too risk averse to be effective.
I can understand parts of your argument but if dessie kills are so worthless, why is Harry being taken out by teams? Practice?
Boredom as an answer is as good as any lest we pretend that guns on hulls are an anomaly all of a sudden in this game.
I will disagree with you on the last comment. If Harry was being risk-averse, he would not be out there. I recall a lame Charlie Sheen movie where someone told a team of Navy SEALs to "be careful" and one of them said "If I was careful I would have joined the Coast Guard".
In a fleet doctrine I could imagine how roasted one would get if they joined fleet with stabs. Imagine telling the FC you had to get closer because your range was gimped to like 13KM or less with stabs. I'm laughing as I think about this. But Harry is jumping them point blank, and not in a fleet.
Heck I can imagine an FC having a nightmare as he discovers everybody equipped dual stabs and could not shoot anything and the opposing fleet consists entirely of rohks, he wakes up in a cold sweat. |
Khanh'rhh
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
1997
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Posted - 2013.07.24 23:45:00 -
[756] - Quote
It's as simple as this: - Catching a ratting fit in and around VFK isn't too hard - Killing them in a wellfit dessie is possible, but a close call often - Killing them in a fit that sacrifices all tank and gank to flee is essentially impossible - Killing a ratting ship actually does something; even humble tier3 BCs get faction fit at times. - A properly fit ship can usually flee fights without needing warp stabs anyway; it's called kiting
Actually fitting one of damage / tank (or both) allows him to engage a target that can/will shoot back and stand a better chance of winning. In the case of, say, a Talos, a tanked destroyer will last long enough to kill the drones, and then the ship since it's guns can't track. Harry will simply lack the combination of EHP/DPS needed to kill anything that is reasonably fit for combat; the aforementioned Talos will mince him and fly off.
And yes, it is less risk averse to fly something that has a chance of doing something at the reduced chance of your own survival; this is pretty much the literal definition of it in fact, so I don't know what you're smoking. You are making yourself less efficient at doing something by reducing your risk of loss.
The "risk" here is also a T1 destroyer that most players out of trial consider fully disposable, so it's just sad.
e: that is all I am going to say on it. If you're honest you know you have exactly no experience at doing any of this so if not me, then listen to one of ~~~literally everyone ever~~~ who would agree fitting stabs to a PVP ship is a bad idea. If you want it from the horses mouth, the patch notes when they changed how warp core stabs worked literally states they altered them so that fitting them to a ship to PVP in wouldn't be viable. e2: as in, there's a better case to be made for armour Ravens than there are for filling 2/3 of your low slots with warp core stabs. "Do not touch anything unnecessarily. Beware of pretty girls in dance halls and parks who may be spies, as well as bicycles, revolvers, uniforms, arms, dead horses, and men lying on roads -- they are not there accidentally." -Soviet infantry manual, issued in the 1930 |
Khanh'rhh
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
1997
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Posted - 2013.07.24 23:47:00 -
[757] - Quote
Oh, and there aren't "teams" taking him out. If you have dozens of people in the station and a neutral on the undock, then a pretty default reaction, without need for coordination, is going to be to undock and blap it.
You can't on one hand give the "we're fighting a new outnumbered paradigm!" and on the other claim "but they outnumber us, this isn't fair!" "Do not touch anything unnecessarily. Beware of pretty girls in dance halls and parks who may be spies, as well as bicycles, revolvers, uniforms, arms, dead horses, and men lying on roads -- they are not there accidentally." -Soviet infantry manual, issued in the 1930 |
Herzog Wolfhammer
Sigma Special Tactics Group
3173
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Posted - 2013.07.25 00:20:00 -
[758] - Quote
Khanh'rhh wrote:Oh, and there aren't "teams" taking him out. If you have dozens of people in the station and a neutral on the undock, then a pretty default reaction, without need for coordination, is going to be to undock and blap it.
You can't on one hand give the "we're fighting a new outnumbered paradigm!" and on the other claim "but they outnumber us, this isn't fair!"
Uh, who said it wasn't fair?
This is the problem with you nullsec crowd. You are so stuck on this fair and not fair crap you assume that anything anybody does is equally childish and has equally childish reasons.
It's not only fair, it's expected. And Harry is still killing ships. Because it's expected, that's why he has dual stabs. I said expect strange fits, didn't I?
Whatever new doctrines the goons take on in the future, please do us a favor make sure "getting over yourselves" is one of them.
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Balthusdire Dominus
The Graduates RAZOR Alliance
3
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Posted - 2013.07.25 00:21:00 -
[759] - Quote
This is the cutest little thread I have read in a long time. You guys and this war is so adorable. I mean that sincerely, it is awesome.
It is also good to know that if I cyno into vfk I don't need to wait 5 minutes for someone to blap my cyno frig! |
Harry Forever
SpaceJunkys
469
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Posted - 2013.07.25 06:52:00 -
[760] - Quote
Khanh'rhh wrote:Good christ no.
Stabs are an awful idea. You're in a Gallente ship which needs to maximize it's low slots, and you have thrown 66% of them away. It's actually worse than not even fully fitting your ship, since you have gimped other core attributes.
That fit will lose awfully to any properly fit destroyer, or just about anything else. It's a dire, dire way to try to learn PVP because you have absolutely no idea of your engagement envelope as you're kicking it in the head three ways to Sunday.
You learn PVP by properly fitting cheap ships and losing them in combat. You're dual-stabbing a throwaway ship which is a frankly bizarre mindset - it's worth losing ships for the actual chance to kill things instead of losing due to your massively gimped setup.
Harry, I know you won't change what you're doing because you're a special blend of clueless and stubborn but if anyone else is reading this and wondering how to learn PVP, then for pity's sake do it in RvB or something and learn how to fly fully fit ships.
There's a reason this guy just films himself shooting noob ships and dying to anything else and it has nothing to do with a lack of SP or ISK.
dude you are getting it wrong again, a newb just wants to go to nullsec and fly around some time, engage in some fights and keep mobility, we do not have a base there to refit fast, we go 20 jumps up there, the last thing we want is die within the first fight we engage, thats why new blayers should use the stabs, you can engage many fight without loosing your ship
I'm talking about people going solo there, thats what you do not get, they can hardly win against your tech 2 stuff out there, thats why they want to engage and back off again, with this tactic I was able to shoot down 50 ships until now... and you all shut up about those cynos now, check my killboard what did you kill with a newbship within the first 3 month? asteroids only I assume
most of you guys never did what we are doing here, we learn it solo the hard way, you got no clue about that, because you learnd all what you know under the umbrella of your alliance Goons Doomsday Event - 28. July |
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Harry Forever
SpaceJunkys
469
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Posted - 2013.07.25 07:01:00 -
[761] - Quote
Balthusdire Dominus wrote:This is the cutest little thread I have read in a long time. You guys and this war is so adorable. I mean that sincerely, it is awesome.
It is also good to know that if I cyno into vfk I don't need to wait 5 minutes for someone to blap my cyno frig!
are those the copy paste sentences you get from your leader? people like you sound like spambots to me, funny
can you put something together in your own words? please try, I'm really curious what you have to say... Goons Doomsday Event - 28. July |
Joepopo
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
99
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Posted - 2013.07.25 09:18:00 -
[762] - Quote
Harry Forever wrote:Balthusdire Dominus wrote:This is the cutest little thread I have read in a long time. You guys and this war is so adorable. I mean that sincerely, it is awesome.
It is also good to know that if I cyno into vfk I don't need to wait 5 minutes for someone to blap my cyno frig! are those the copy paste sentences you get from your leader? people like you sound like spambots to me, funny can you put something together in your own words? please try, I'm really curious what you have to say...
I can put words together from other people.
the 4th generation paradigm of attrition warfare harry and I are implementing will lead the resource to fall in the sink of thousands of highsec players who have been misconsidered for too long by the mittani at the alliance panel. |
Harry Forever
SpaceJunkys
469
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Posted - 2013.07.25 09:23:00 -
[763] - Quote
Herzog Wolfhammer wrote:Khanh'rhh wrote:Good christ no.
Stabs are an awful idea. You're in a Gallente ship which needs to maximize it's low slots, and you have thrown 66% of them away. It's actually worse than not even fully fitting your ship, since you have gimped other core attributes.
That fit will lose awfully to any properly fit destroyer, or just about anything else. It's a dire, dire way to try to learn PVP because you have absolutely no idea of your engagement envelope as you're kicking it in the head three ways to Sunday.
You learn PVP by properly fitting cheap ships and losing them in combat. You're dual-stabbing a throwaway ship which is a frankly bizarre mindset - it's worth losing ships for the actual chance to kill things instead of losing due to your massively gimped setup.
Harry, I know you won't change what you're doing because you're a special blend of clueless and stubborn but if anyone else is reading this and wondering how to learn PVP, then for pity's sake do it in RvB or something and learn how to fly fully fit ships.
There's a reason this guy just films himself shooting noob ships and dying to anything else and it has nothing to do with a lack of SP or ISK. But there are so many goons, why not experiment on them? They are like potato chips, these goons. You can't eat just one. The stabs are denying a kill to the enemy. We can look at it this way: if he kills one ship, then runs off, he lives to fight another day. Of course it's a throwaway ship. Is there any need to tank it? Keeping a destroyer in one piece in solo PVP is hard. Heck it's hard enough to tank with one in PVe. I would consider them to be fleet support more than anything else. So to get a kill, and then deny a kill to the enemy, is like a kill + 1. Think of it as a "dollar not spent is two dollars saved: the dollar you didn't spend and the dollar you still have". But would we also not argue that perhaps the stabs are his tank? I've seen effective claims that "DPS is also tank" because the faster you remove enemy DPS the less DPS you experience. Are you saying that he would have equal chance putting modules into DPS instead of escape, or that the combination of turrets and "travel fit dual stabs" is a kind of omni-tanking (a big no no in the game it seems)? Harry is running into situations where he is outnumbered, and the doctrine appears to be "tackle and wait for more goons". Harry is breaking that. You are probably right about gimping the ship, but Harry is not necessarily using the cat within the envelope of its intended role. In the meantime, new paradigms of PVP and asymmetric warfare are at play here, so unconventional fittings are going to happen. I have some experiments in the hangar myself. I don't kid myself: they are more likely to be comedy kill mails than anything else, but it's a game after all and a sandbox too. We can do what we want and find success through trial and error. At one point trial and error was an ISK sink before everybody (in both nullsec and highsec) turned into an overly serious ISK hoarder.
perfect Herzog, I could not have said it better, this is open gameplay, hard to understand for mindless goblins, but if we keep doing it maybe enlightment will strike them and they get the real meaning of sandbox and put down those chains they are attached to... Goons Doomsday Event - 28. July |
Lucas Kell
JSR1 AND GOLDEN GUARDIAN PRODUCTIONS SpaceMonkey's Alliance
227
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Posted - 2013.07.25 09:32:00 -
[764] - Quote
It just means now the goons need to use 2 tacklers, then he can't warp. It's not the end of the world. The fact that Harry has lost so may ships shows that using stabs to tank does not work that well. The Indecisive Noob - A new EVE Fan Blog for news and stuff. |
Harry Forever
SpaceJunkys
469
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Posted - 2013.07.25 09:36:00 -
[765] - Quote
Lucas Kell wrote:It just means now the goons need to use 2 tacklers, then he can't warp. It's not the end of the world. The fact that Harry has lost so may ships shows that using stabs to tank does not work that well.
I lost some ships early on when going to null, and when engaging in duels in highsec, thats the only time i lost many ships... you again fail at processing the data correctly Goons Doomsday Event - 28. July |
Sabriz Adoudel
Paragon Blitz
562
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Posted - 2013.07.25 09:49:00 -
[766] - Quote
How did I miss this thread until now?
What an ingenious way for Goonswarm to try to get non-Goons to deliver expensive modules for the Swarm to fit to their carriers!
An enemy is just a friend that you stab in the front. |
Lucas Kell
JSR1 AND GOLDEN GUARDIAN PRODUCTIONS SpaceMonkey's Alliance
227
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Posted - 2013.07.25 10:00:00 -
[767] - Quote
Harry Forever wrote:Lucas Kell wrote:It just means now the goons need to use 2 tacklers, then he can't warp. It's not the end of the world. The fact that Harry has lost so many ships shows that using stabs to tank does not work that well. I lost some ships early on when going to null, and when engaging in duels in highsec, thats the only time i lost many ships... you again fail at processing the data correctly Oh if that's the case, I must apologise. It's not me failing to process your data though, you'll need to get onto those EVE-kill guys. They seem to be showing you as losing ships on 20th, 19th, 17th and throughout the month! Clearly though you state that is not the case, so you'll need to get them to correct that. It may also be an API problem so maybe you'll need to petition CCP to get those incorrect losses fixed. The Indecisive Noob - A new EVE Fan Blog for news and stuff. |
Khanh'rhh
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
2000
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Posted - 2013.07.25 10:19:00 -
[768] - Quote
Herzog Wolfhammer wrote:This is why the idea of trespassing on your lawns and peeing on the garden gnome has such appealing butthurt potential. One of the driving forces here is that anybody can do it, and a day comes when thousands are doing what Harry and CO are doing, nullsec becomes what everybody says it is whenever they push their ePeens Pretty good analogy.
Much like peeing on someone's garden to spite them, the person who owns the house invariably doesn't notice, whilst the perpetrator walks away thinking himself ~quite the man~ imagining how annoyed the person is going to be - a kind of self-generated schadenfreude that serves to fill the perp's need to rebel and little else.
FWIW Goons know the general tactics at play here very well - we've been disrupting TEST renters since the reset (and you can change TEST for any other entity we are/have been hostile to), much to their chagrin and wails on forums, and requests for discounted rent agreements because TEST can't stop a small organised gang from getting in and out and causing damage. Often, we have exceptionally new players take part in these SiGs (dedicated special interest groups to doing it) and they do it all without gimping their ships with warp core stabs. Indeed. they couldn't do it if they did, as they would be overly gimped - which (again) is my point. Fitting stabs to a PVP ship is, unfortunately, a mark of someone who doesn't know what they're doing and you encouraging him is the blind leading the blind, since you have no experience either.
We know how it works, because we literally invented this kind of warfare in EvE. Now you can read this as me saying we're better than you in every measurable way, and that is true, but the larger point is that to actually achieve a goal you need to risk something. You telling me risking a T1 destroyer is too much means we pretty much never need to worry about this ever being anything more than a useful way of reducing cyno timers.
WRT "but when I die I need to reship!" a) There's ways to avoid this - stage closer b) If he wasn't in a gimped up fit he wouldn't be dying so often, making this actually counter-productive. ROIR-Y is an NPC 0.0 station system 7 jumps from VFK. Set a jumpclone here, use the (pretty fair) local market to reship. He can go from dead->VFK in about 8minutes. It's really rather easy when you spend 3minutes thinking about it.
Just, for one second look at your situation - you have no experience in what you're ~~theorycrafting~~ about and are offering advice that runs contrary to what people who do know what they're doing are saying. Not just me, but literally everyone who will tell you stabs on a PVP ship are a bad idea. Two stabs are worse. 2/3 of your lowslots being stabs is just awful. If a bunch of dumb goons start losing their faction fit ratting ships I'm going to have a good laugh at their expense (the VFK beacon is pretty quiet at the moment) but this will never happen if people like you continue to give him awful advice because you're completely clueless; he'll just keep killing cyno frigs and you'll all tell him what a big meanie he's being to us and no one will care.
Harry Forever wrote:I'm talking about people going solo there, thats what you do not get, they can hardly win against your tech 2 stuff out there, thats why they want to engage and back off again, with this tactic I was able to shoot down 50 ships until now... and you might want to shut up about those cynos, I explained 100 times i shoot those while wating, the russians there do it the same, check my killboard there are other ships there as well, yesterday i shot down a destroyer and a frigate, what did you kill with a newbship within the first 3 month? asteroids only I assume
I'm not going to stop mentioning "cyno ships" when you keep including them in your count by saying "shot down 50 ships" unless you start adding the caveat yourself ".. of which 49 were cyno alts". You can't have it both ways; if you're going to brag about them, I will point out how silly that is. For what it's worth in my first 2-4months of EvE I was using a Rupture to tackle and help kill battleships in a wardec, as well as flying around in a Thrasher and blapping people who had been playing the game 5 years longer than me, in a ship 20x my value, solo. I couldn't have done that if I was using WCS in my lows, though. You're trying to play the 'new player' card and it's not going to work because your problem here has nothing to do with ISK, SP or experience - it's just a common sense break. You're shooting at intrinsically worthless ships and boasting about it. This is akin to you stealing someone's garbage and then telling them you're stealing from them. It's bizarre.
Oh and the destroyer you killed was actually a TEST newbie out trying to do the same thing you were - if you check his killboard you'll notice he uses a cheaper ship fit than you to help kill a variety of ships actually worth something to their owners.
You're poorly fitting your ship, which then loses fights it can win as a result, which you then run from, and you use the fact you were able to run away as evidence your fit is useful, when it's actually proof it's ill-equipped in the first place You're missing the point entirely. "Do not touch anything unnecessarily. Beware of pretty girls in dance halls and parks who may be spies, as well as bicycles, revolvers, uniforms, arms, dead horses, and men lying on roads -- they are not there accidentally." -Soviet infantry manual, issued in the 1930 |
Harry Forever
SpaceJunkys
469
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Posted - 2013.07.25 11:36:00 -
[769] - Quote
Lucas Kell wrote:Harry Forever wrote:Lucas Kell wrote:It just means now the goons need to use 2 tacklers, then he can't warp. It's not the end of the world. The fact that Harry has lost so many ships shows that using stabs to tank does not work that well. I lost some ships early on when going to null, and when engaging in duels in highsec, thats the only time i lost many ships... you again fail at processing the data correctly Oh if that's the case, I must apologise. It's not me failing to process your data though, you'll need to get onto those EVE-kill guys. They seem to be showing you as losing ships on 20th, 19th, 17th and throughout the month! Clearly though you state that is not the case, so you'll need to get them to correct that. It may also be an API problem so maybe you'll need to petition CCP to get those incorrect losses fixed.
so you are able to count until 3 thats great, please proceed counting the goons I shotdown... you might as well just stick to your killboard and try to improve that... stop stalking like a crazy maniac dude Goons Doomsday Event - 28. July |
Harry Forever
SpaceJunkys
469
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Posted - 2013.07.25 11:46:00 -
[770] - Quote
the endless posts from self proclaimed pvp experts is unprecedented here, how could I have ever wished to bring so much pain to nullsec with just adding 2 stabs and shooting down cynoships
what will happen when i finally upgrad shooting frigs and other stuff? hmmm, actually I do this already... I need to apologize, it seems some struggle with the speed on how this all unfolds and they can not keep up with recent developments
to all newbs! please people all of you, add 2 stabs to your destroyer go to VFK mittanigrad station and snap away one or two cynos, trust me you will love it, camp local, logoff in space and come back the day after... we fleet up and shoot other stuff, its fun
the people here in the thread just don't get it because they do not have the balls to go hunting in enemy space alone Goons Doomsday Event - 28. July |
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William Walker
House Aratus Fatal Ascension
137
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Posted - 2013.07.25 11:57:00 -
[771] - Quote
Harry Forever wrote:the endless posts from self proclaimed pvp experts is unprecedented here, how could I have ever wished to bring so much pain to nullsec with just adding 2 stabs and shooting down cynoships
what will happen when i finally upgrad shooting frigs and other stuff? hmmm, actually I do this already... I need to apologize, it seems some struggle with the speed on how this all unfolds and they can not keep up with recent developments
to all newbs! please people all of you, add 2 stabs to your destroyer go to VFK mittanigrad station and snap away one or two cynos, trust me you will love it, camp local, logoff in space and come back the day after... we fleet up and shoot other stuff, its fun
the people here in the thread just don't get it because they do not have the balls to go hunting in enemy space alone
I love my daily dose of Harry. Keep it up Harry. 420 pop cynos erryday pâ+(*GîÆGêçGîÆ*)n+ë pü+(pé£GêçpÇü-¦)pü+ (GùòGÇ+GùòG£+) |
Harry Forever
SpaceJunkys
470
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Posted - 2013.07.25 12:08:00 -
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William Walker wrote:Harry Forever wrote:the endless posts from self proclaimed pvp experts is unprecedented here, how could I have ever wished to bring so much pain to nullsec with just adding 2 stabs and shooting down cynoships
what will happen when i finally upgrad shooting frigs and other stuff? hmmm, actually I do this already... I need to apologize, it seems some struggle with the speed on how this all unfolds and they can not keep up with recent developments
to all newbs! please people all of you, add 2 stabs to your destroyer go to VFK mittanigrad station and snap away one or two cynos, trust me you will love it, camp local, logoff in space and come back the day after... we fleet up and shoot other stuff, its fun
the people here in the thread just don't get it because they do not have the balls to go hunting in enemy space alone I love my daily dose of Harry. Keep it up Harry. 420 pop cynos erryday
hey thanks :D did you see the kills of yesterday, mixed in a destroyer and a frig to keep everybody happy :D Goons Doomsday Event - 28. July |
Joepopo
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
100
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Posted - 2013.07.25 12:19:00 -
[773] - Quote
Harry Forever wrote:
hey thanks :D did you see the kills of yesterday, mixed in a destroyer and a frig to keep everybody happy :D
yesterday, july 24th kills: http://eve-kill.net/?a=kill_related&kll_id=18891036 http://eve-kill.net/?a=kill_related&kll_id=18893375
frigates, destroyers indeed and even some command ships. |
SKINE DMZ
YouView INC
63
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Posted - 2013.07.25 12:23:00 -
[774] - Quote
and you lost 13 pods? thats barely an achievement mr seal |
Maximillian German
Spectres Syndicate
28
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Posted - 2013.07.25 12:54:00 -
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Oh Harry, you're like that kid on the playground who eats glue because everyone else dared him to. You feel popular because everyone laughs, but little do you know, the other kids are laughing at you. And the few people who felt bad for you in the beginning, have been alienated by your newfound and misplaced arrogance. |
Harry Forever
SpaceJunkys
470
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Posted - 2013.07.25 13:04:00 -
[776] - Quote
Maximillian German wrote:Oh Harry, you're like that kid on the playground who eats glue because everyone else dared him to. You feel popular because everyone laughs, but little do you know, the other kids are laughing at you. And the few people who felt bad for you in the beginning, have been alienated by your newfound and misplaced arrogance.
and you are one of those kids who stands in a group loughing at one, to feel strong, but you are not Goons Doomsday Event - 28. July |
Leafar Nightfall
Grease Monkeys
14
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Posted - 2013.07.25 13:08:00 -
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Khanh'rhh wrote: Much like peeing on someone's garden to spite them, the person who owns the house invariably doesn't notice, whilst the perpetrator walks away thinking himself ~quite the man~ imagining how annoyed the person is going to be - a kind of self-generated schadenfreude that serves to fill the perp's need to rebel and little else.
And the blablabla below
I can see how the gnome owners are not caring by the size of the wall of text that they are trying to build around it |
Inxentas Ultramar
Ultramar Independent Contracting Home Front Coalition
614
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Posted - 2013.07.25 13:40:00 -
[778] - Quote
I come into this topic regularly and it's a laugh everytime. Harry is doing a prime job sticking it to the Goons. I love how his objective-based mindset clashes with the outlook of competative PVP players and generates this whole discussion and drama about -of all things- bloody warp core stabilizers. In one word: hilarious! |
Lucas Kell
JSR1 AND GOLDEN GUARDIAN PRODUCTIONS SpaceMonkey's Alliance
228
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Posted - 2013.07.25 13:44:00 -
[779] - Quote
Harry Forever wrote:Lucas Kell wrote:Harry Forever wrote:Lucas Kell wrote:It just means now the goons need to use 2 tacklers, then he can't warp. It's not the end of the world. The fact that Harry has lost so many ships shows that using stabs to tank does not work that well. I lost some ships early on when going to null, and when engaging in duels in highsec, thats the only time i lost many ships... you again fail at processing the data correctly Oh if that's the case, I must apologise. It's not me failing to process your data though, you'll need to get onto those EVE-kill guys. They seem to be showing you as losing ships on 20th, 19th, 17th and throughout the month! Clearly though you state that is not the case, so you'll need to get them to correct that. It may also be an API problem so maybe you'll need to petition CCP to get those incorrect losses fixed. so you are able to count until 3 thats great, please proceed counting the goons I shotdown... you might as well just stick to your killboard and try to improve that... please stop stalking like a crazy maniac dude Hmmm, don't feel like leaving the threads just yet. I love posting replies to clueless noobs posting garbage. The funny part is that there are people in this thread legitimately trying to help you improve your kill ratio, and you are basically telling them to shut up.
I'm guessing the reason this is all happening this weekend is because it's the school holidays and you are allowed to stay up late. Well you have 3 days to get better tactics or it's all going to be over pretty quick. Best of luck! The Indecisive Noob - A new EVE Fan Blog for news and stuff. |
Lucas Kell
JSR1 AND GOLDEN GUARDIAN PRODUCTIONS SpaceMonkey's Alliance
228
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Posted - 2013.07.25 13:46:00 -
[780] - Quote
Inxentas Ultramar wrote:I come into this topic regularly and it's a laugh everytime. Harry is doing a prime job sticking it to the Goons. I love how his objective-based mindset clashes with the outlook of competative PVP players and generates this whole discussion and drama about -of all things- bloody warp core stabilizers. In one word: hilarious! You realise he's not "sticking it" to anyone. If he didn't kill the cyno pilot, they would probably send alts out to kill themselves to save on the timer. I can't wait for all of these noobs expecting action to turn up and suddenly realise that he spends hours on end just sitting outside the station waiting for people to undock. It's gonna be the least fun they've had in a while. The Indecisive Noob - A new EVE Fan Blog for news and stuff. |
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Joepopo
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
100
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Posted - 2013.07.25 14:02:00 -
[781] - Quote
Lucas Kell wrote:. I can't wait for all of these noobs expecting action to turn up and suddenly realise that he spends hours on end just sitting outside the station waiting for people to undock. It's gonna be the least fun they've had in a while.
They would have succeded in interdicting VFK. having us docked in station. Right where they wanted us to be.
This gimmick works everywhere! |
Lucas Kell
JSR1 AND GOLDEN GUARDIAN PRODUCTIONS SpaceMonkey's Alliance
228
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Posted - 2013.07.25 14:18:00 -
[782] - Quote
Joepopo wrote:Lucas Kell wrote:. I can't wait for all of these noobs expecting action to turn up and suddenly realise that he spends hours on end just sitting outside the station waiting for people to undock. It's gonna be the least fun they've had in a while. They would have succeded in interdicting VFK. having us docked in station. Right where they wanted us to be. This gimmick works everywhere! I suppose so. A shame that AFK people and marketing alts tend not to undock anyway :p The Indecisive Noob - A new EVE Fan Blog for news and stuff. |
Harry Forever
SpaceJunkys
471
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Posted - 2013.07.25 14:33:00 -
[783] - Quote
Joepopo wrote:Lucas Kell wrote:. I can't wait for all of these noobs expecting action to turn up and suddenly realise that he spends hours on end just sitting outside the station waiting for people to undock. It's gonna be the least fun they've had in a while. They would have succeded in interdicting VFK. having us docked in station. Right where they wanted us to be. This gimmick works everywhere!
I could not image something better happening then all carebears in local and no one who has the balls to undock from mittanigrad, fantastic
I have seen it already when some other gangs where there in 10-20 ships swarming around the station, telling people to undock, no big ball of goon fleet undock crushing them, no newb FC bringing the goonhammer all are talking about... sure those people did something wrong as well like me, maybe you despise their fitting as well?
I was wondering where are all those alts, those 1 minute goonsuperforces bombing those intruders... nothing, they just moved on to your ratting places and shot down your ships there, the russians have send me the killmails... funny really funny Goons Doomsday Event - 28. July |
Herzog Wolfhammer
Sigma Special Tactics Group
3182
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Posted - 2013.07.25 14:41:00 -
[784] - Quote
Harry Forever wrote:Balthusdire Dominus wrote:This is the cutest little thread I have read in a long time. You guys and this war is so adorable. I mean that sincerely, it is awesome.
It is also good to know that if I cyno into vfk I don't need to wait 5 minutes for someone to blap my cyno frig! are those the copy paste sentences you get from your leader? people like you sound like spambots to me, funny can you put something together in your own words? please try, I'm really curious what you have to say...
Jackie had an interesting convo with one of the nullsec bubble campers yesterday. Every point was the same "boilerplate" spew, "blob or GTFO", etc. They were mad because they didn't get the talwar in their bubble, and like a good destroyer pilot, managed to get out of the bubble under cloak. Their point was, 30 minutes of Jackie's time was wasted getting out of the bubble camp, but the map activity showed one kill in the hour, meaning they were there much longer than 30 minutes.
So they complained to another player about 30 minutes wasted escaping THEIR bubble camp, when they were there longer than that with no kills.
With these kinds of nullsec tears, the greifers are playing in the wrong parts of space.
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Herzog Wolfhammer
Sigma Special Tactics Group
3182
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Posted - 2013.07.25 14:42:00 -
[785] - Quote
Joepopo wrote:Harry Forever wrote:Balthusdire Dominus wrote:This is the cutest little thread I have read in a long time. You guys and this war is so adorable. I mean that sincerely, it is awesome.
It is also good to know that if I cyno into vfk I don't need to wait 5 minutes for someone to blap my cyno frig! are those the copy paste sentences you get from your leader? people like you sound like spambots to me, funny can you put something together in your own words? please try, I'm really curious what you have to say... I can put words together from other people. the 4th generation paradigm of attrition warfare harry and I are implementing will lead the resource to fall in the sink of thousands of highsec players who have been misconsidered for too long by the mittani at the alliance panel.
4th generation warfare is not war by attrition.
You are using words you don't fully understand. Stick to your Baghdad Bob role.
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Harry Forever
SpaceJunkys
474
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Posted - 2013.07.25 14:45:00 -
[786] - Quote
Herzog Wolfhammer wrote:Harry Forever wrote:Balthusdire Dominus wrote:This is the cutest little thread I have read in a long time. You guys and this war is so adorable. I mean that sincerely, it is awesome.
It is also good to know that if I cyno into vfk I don't need to wait 5 minutes for someone to blap my cyno frig! are those the copy paste sentences you get from your leader? people like you sound like spambots to me, funny can you put something together in your own words? please try, I'm really curious what you have to say... Jackie had an interesting convo with one of the nullsec bubble campers yesterday. Every point was the same "boilerplate" spew, "blob or GTFO", etc. They were mad because they didn't get the talwar in their bubble, and like a good destroyer pilot, managed to get out of the bubble under cloak. Their point was, 30 minutes of Jackie's time was wasted getting out of the bubble camp, but the map activity showed one kill in the hour, meaning they were there much longer than 30 minutes. So they complained to another player about 30 minutes wasted escaping THEIR bubble camp, when they were there longer than that with no kills. With these kinds of nullsec tears, the greifers are playing in the wrong parts of space.
:D had the same fun with those guys yesterday, its the best thing you move around with those 30ms in the bubble and they go crazy because they don't find you, even better as killing cynos :D Goons Doomsday Event - 28. July |
Lucas Kell
JSR1 AND GOLDEN GUARDIAN PRODUCTIONS SpaceMonkey's Alliance
228
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Posted - 2013.07.25 14:46:00 -
[787] - Quote
Harry Forever wrote:Joepopo wrote:Lucas Kell wrote:. I can't wait for all of these noobs expecting action to turn up and suddenly realise that he spends hours on end just sitting outside the station waiting for people to undock. It's gonna be the least fun they've had in a while. They would have succeded in interdicting VFK. having us docked in station. Right where they wanted us to be. This gimmick works everywhere! I could not image something better happening then all carebears in local and no one who has the balls to undock from mittanigrad, fantastic I have seen it already when some other gangs where there in 10-20 ships swarming around the station, telling people to undock, no big ball of goon fleet undock crushing them, no newb FC bringing the goonhammer all are talking about... sure those people did something wrong as well like me, maybe you despise their fitting as well? I was wondering where are all those alts, those 1 minute goonsuperforces bombing those intruders... nothing, they just moved on to your ratting places and shot down your ships there, the russians have send me the killmails... funny, really funny Sigh... I don't know how to explain this more clearly than has already. We are deployed. Goons do not live in VFK, they live in Fountain (mostly 4-EP to be specific). The reason nobody undocks is that the few people that are there are there to move a ship, run logistics (jump freighters and capitals) or they are there as market alts. Most of them will have that screen minimized.
What Joe was pointing out, is that much like TEST, you look at something that is just simply that way on it's own, but because you are there you attribute it to yourself, even though you had no impact on it. It was sarcasm.
Do you understand? Probably not. You'll come back with something telling me I'm wrong, you are a super killer, goons are scared and will die and that we can't understand your greatness. When you grow up, you'll look back at this thread and shake your head. But we all have those threads from our youth so don't worry about it. The Indecisive Noob - A new EVE Fan Blog for news and stuff. |
Herzog Wolfhammer
Sigma Special Tactics Group
3183
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Posted - 2013.07.25 15:00:00 -
[788] - Quote
Khanh'rhh wrote: .. love letter...
Thank you for taking so much time to write that. It seems like you care. Hope that does not get you fired.
Now keep in mind this is a game, and people should experiment. I've watched Harry's endeavors and have an alt in dessies doing similar things, and running into similar fitting challenges. Because we are not doing conventional stuff, we cannot adhere to conventional fitting doctrines.
Long long ago I put together an exploration ship (this was when exploration sites had rats - lots of rats) and looking at the saved fittings, seemingly one every few weeks as I returned to highsec sporadically to unload loot and refit, I watched a progression of modules go from bad to better and finally to a loadout that was using every last bit if PG and CPU and was quite an effective ship. This was a T1 BC (Cyclone pre tiericide) that could go into nullsec and hit radar sites successfully and kill NPC rats.
(Ironically the changes to the Cyclone made it better for exploration, but they changed exploration too making it obsolete for exploration. Go figure)
All of this was trial and error and in the end, there were fittings I would not do again.
So, I can understand your points and where you are coming from, but one aspect of this game is the room to experiment and do pretty much whatever you want, even if it's not the best thing. Going alone in T1 ships in nullsec and hunting/ganking/etc. is going to take some experimentation and things will get strange. Like my old exploration ship, we will be seeing this "lone wolf" fit evolve as skills improve and experience teaches what fitting works best.
Be patient. They'll get better.
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Herzog Wolfhammer
Sigma Special Tactics Group
3183
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Posted - 2013.07.25 15:04:00 -
[789] - Quote
Harry Forever wrote:Herzog Wolfhammer wrote:Harry Forever wrote:Balthusdire Dominus wrote:This is the cutest little thread I have read in a long time. You guys and this war is so adorable. I mean that sincerely, it is awesome.
It is also good to know that if I cyno into vfk I don't need to wait 5 minutes for someone to blap my cyno frig! are those the copy paste sentences you get from your leader? people like you sound like spambots to me, funny can you put something together in your own words? please try, I'm really curious what you have to say... Jackie had an interesting convo with one of the nullsec bubble campers yesterday. Every point was the same "boilerplate" spew, "blob or GTFO", etc. They were mad because they didn't get the talwar in their bubble, and like a good destroyer pilot, managed to get out of the bubble under cloak. Their point was, 30 minutes of Jackie's time was wasted getting out of the bubble camp, but the map activity showed one kill in the hour, meaning they were there much longer than 30 minutes. So they complained to another player about 30 minutes wasted escaping THEIR bubble camp, when they were there longer than that with no kills. With these kinds of nullsec tears, the greifers are playing in the wrong parts of space. :D had the same fun with those guys yesterday, its the best thing you move around with those 30ms in the bubble and they go crazy because they don't find you, even better as killing cynos :D god I love that ****
Ironically it's an alliance that boasts about killing goons, and I once asked them why are they killing everything that moves in a fail camp and not in VFK.
The response I got was... rather colorful. Still full of nullsec template spew (you are not in a big alliance, go back to highsec, PHAG, noob, etc). I can see why people would prefer not to play with them. Seeing more people bombing them, as the wolf pups improve in their skills, will be fun to watch.
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Inxentas Ultramar
Ultramar Independent Contracting Home Front Coalition
618
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Posted - 2013.07.25 15:12:00 -
[790] - Quote
Lucas Kell wrote:Inxentas Ultramar wrote:I come into this topic regularly and it's a laugh everytime. Harry is doing a prime job sticking it to the Goons. I love how his objective-based mindset clashes with the outlook of competative PVP players and generates this whole discussion and drama about -of all things- bloody warp core stabilizers. In one word: hilarious! You realise he's not "sticking it" to anyone. If he didn't kill the cyno pilot, they would probably send alts out to kill themselves to save on the timer. I can't wait for all of these noobs expecting action to turn up and suddenly realise that he spends hours on end just sitting outside the station waiting for people to undock. It's gonna be the least fun they've had in a while.
I know dude. But he's poking and people respond, often with usefull advice he might or might not start using. He's turning this place into a 40 page lolfactory expos+¬e. I'm fully aware it has no serious impact on daily in-game Goon life as it is, but he's sticking it to the Goons like rock n' roll stuck it to the man. That didn't exactly change much either, but it sure was fun and it pissed a lot of people off. I can sincerely appreciate his drive, as a lot of people don't come close in terms of determination. He's putting a lot of thought in this effort and I applaud his will to strike despite his losses, despite people telling him he's doing it wrong. I'm just rooting for the underdog here and I hope his efforts will grow into an actual problem for Goonswarm! |
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Herzog Wolfhammer
Sigma Special Tactics Group
3184
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Posted - 2013.07.25 15:14:00 -
[791] - Quote
Lucas Kell wrote:Inxentas Ultramar wrote:I come into this topic regularly and it's a laugh everytime. Harry is doing a prime job sticking it to the Goons. I love how his objective-based mindset clashes with the outlook of competative PVP players and generates this whole discussion and drama about -of all things- bloody warp core stabilizers. In one word: hilarious! You realise he's not "sticking it" to anyone. If he didn't kill the cyno pilot, they would probably send alts out to kill themselves to save on the timer. I can't wait for all of these noobs expecting action to turn up and suddenly realise that he spends hours on end just sitting outside the station waiting for people to undock. It's gonna be the least fun they've had in a while.
If Harry is to be ridiculed out of "waiting hours for an easy kill", what would you say about bubble campers who wait hours for easy kills?
Why is one game move so bad, and another so sacred?
I've run many blockades (but oh, I don't have noobships and pods on my stats so I fail and don't know what I'm doing) and have seen these brave and valiant (waiting all day for a few targets) campers run off when equally matched. Yet Harry knows that goons will come in plurality out of the hive when he makes a move.
In my own experience I've been caught 5 to 1, and had all 5 run off because I had enough firepower - or they thought I did, my exploration ship would have gone down in flames faster than I could type - to "take one down with me". .So fearful of their stats and not "wanting to be the one killed", they all ran off. Tell me again why gate camping is so respectable and Harry is to be criticized for his actions?
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Lucas Kell
JSR1 AND GOLDEN GUARDIAN PRODUCTIONS SpaceMonkey's Alliance
229
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Posted - 2013.07.25 15:15:00 -
[792] - Quote
Herzog Wolfhammer wrote:Now keep in mind this is a game, and people should experiment. I've watched Harry's endeavors and have an alt in dessies doing similar things, and running into similar fitting challenges. Because we are not doing conventional stuff, we cannot adhere to conventional fitting doctrines.
Long long ago I put together an exploration ship (this was when exploration sites had rats - lots of rats) and looking at the saved fittings, seemingly one every few weeks as I returned to highsec sporadically to unload loot and refit, I watched a progression of modules go from bad to better and finally to a loadout that was using every last bit if PG and CPU and was quite an effective ship. This was a T1 BC (Cyclone pre tiericide) that could go into nullsec and hit radar sites successfully and kill NPC rats.
(Ironically the changes to the Cyclone made it better for exploration, but they changed exploration too making it obsolete for exploration. Go figure)
All of this was trial and error and in the end, there were fittings I would not do again.
So, I can understand your points and where you are coming from, but one aspect of this game is the room to experiment and do pretty much whatever you want, even if it's not the best thing. Going alone in T1 ships in nullsec and hunting/ganking/etc. is going to take some experimentation and things will get strange. Like my old exploration ship, we will be seeing this "lone wolf" fit evolve as skills improve and experience teaches what fitting works best.
Be patient. They'll get better. Right... how is it not conventional? You guys are camping a station. It's something that happens literally every day by both experienced vets and noobs. People here are not saying they don't have room to experiment, they are just giving some fitting advice to use when experimenting. But that said the whole things is relatively pointless. As we've said in our previous posts, it's mostly alts there, which is why 99% of all the kills are cyno pilots.
If Harry is trying to inspire or break the mould he's going about it all wrong. He's in the wrong system, in the wrong fits and he's boasting false success. At most he will convince a bunch of naive players that he has some kind of plan, they will die and come on the forum crying.
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Herzog Wolfhammer
Sigma Special Tactics Group
3184
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Posted - 2013.07.25 15:19:00 -
[793] - Quote
Lucas Kell wrote: Right... how is it not conventional? You guys are camping a station. It's something that happens literally every day by both experienced vets and noobs. People here are not saying they don't have room to experiment, they are just giving some fitting advice to use when experimenting. But that said the whole things is relatively pointless. As we've said in our previous posts, it's mostly alts there, which is why 99% of all the kills are cyno pilots.
If Harry is trying to inspire or break the mould he's going about it all wrong. He's in the wrong system, in the wrong fits and he's boasting false success. At most he will convince a bunch of naive players that he has some kind of plan, they will die and come on the forum crying.
Most of the station camping I have seen involve docking games.
While we have asked to be able to dock at Mittanigrad, a request that gets denied for some reason, I don't see Harry playing these games.
As for people crying on the forums, well, encouraging noobs to go and get killed means they expect it. We are not telling people to take their level 4 faction fit mission ships out there as if they are going to get hero kill runs, like this was some fantasy sword game.
From the looks of it so far it appears they are doing the least crying.
That any ship can use a gate and any ship can shoot is enough. |
Lucas Kell
JSR1 AND GOLDEN GUARDIAN PRODUCTIONS SpaceMonkey's Alliance
229
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Posted - 2013.07.25 15:23:00 -
[794] - Quote
Herzog Wolfhammer wrote:If Harry is to be ridiculed out of "waiting hours for an easy kill", what would you say about bubble campers who wait hours for easy kills?
Why is one game move so bad, and another so sacred?
I've run many blockades (but oh, I don't have noobships and pods on my stats so I fail and don't know what I'm doing) and have seen these brave and valiant (waiting all day for a few targets) campers run off when equally matched. Yet Harry knows that goons will come in plurality out of the hive when he makes a move.
In my own experience I've been caught 5 to 1, and had all 5 run off because I had enough firepower - or they thought I did, my exploration ship would have gone down in flames faster than I could type out butthurt comments - to "take one down with me". .So fearful of their stats and not "wanting to be the one killed", they all ran off. Tell me again why gate camping is so respectable and Harry is to be criticized for his actions? I'm not saying gatecamps are great though am I? Read what I'm saying. He's camping a station that nearly nobody is using. A few JFs and carriers go in and out, but he stands no chance of capturing them, and the rest are generally afk. What is the point of camping a station that is not being used, what can the possible best outcome be? I wouldn't even bother counter posting if he simply said "were just camping VFK" but he chucks up all of this nonsense about VFK burning and how hes killing people every day, and it's a load of garbage.
Inxentas Ultramar wrote:I know dude. But he's poking and people respond, often with usefull advice he might or might not start using. He's turning this place into a 40 page lolfactory expos+¬e. I'm fully aware it has no serious impact on daily in-game Goon life as it is, but he's sticking it to the Goons like rock n' roll stuck it to the man. That didn't exactly change much either, but it sure was fun and it pissed a lot of people off. I can sincerely appreciate his drive, as a lot of people don't come close in terms of determination. He's putting a lot of thought in this effort and I applaud his will to strike despite his losses, despite people telling him he's doing it wrong. I'm just rooting for the underdog here and I hope his efforts will grow into an actual problem for Goonswarm! He's not even pissing people off though. I'm only even bothering to post while I'm not at home, and that's through pure boredom. He's effectively camping an empty station. The only effect he is having is that he saves people 10 minutes on deathcloning their cyno pilot back to deployment, so he is in fact helping goons.
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Lucas Kell
JSR1 AND GOLDEN GUARDIAN PRODUCTIONS SpaceMonkey's Alliance
229
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Posted - 2013.07.25 15:26:00 -
[795] - Quote
Herzog Wolfhammer wrote:Most of the station camping I have seen involve docking games.
While we have asked to be able to dock at Mittanigrad, a request that gets denied for some reason, I don't see Harry playing these games.
As for people crying on the forums, well, encouraging noobs to go and get killed means they expect it. We are not telling people to take their level 4 faction fit mission ships out there as if they are going to get hero kill runs, like this was some fantasy sword game.
From the looks of it so far it appears they are doing the least crying.
That any ship can use a gate and any ship can shoot is enough. Then you are unfamiliar with camping in null.
The thing is though he's not saying go get killed. Hes talking about his 50 kills and VFK burning, and the end of the goons, and he's even talked about killing capitals and taking sov. He's bullshitting a bunch of naive noobs that don't know better.
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Khanh'rhh
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
2002
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Posted - 2013.07.25 15:26:00 -
[796] - Quote
Leafar Nightfall wrote:Khanh'rhh wrote: Much like peeing on someone's garden to spite them, the person who owns the house invariably doesn't notice, whilst the perpetrator walks away thinking himself ~quite the man~ imagining how annoyed the person is going to be - a kind of self-generated schadenfreude that serves to fill the perp's need to rebel and little else.
And the blablabla below
I can see how the gnome owners are not caring by the size of the wall of text that they are trying to build around it You're accusing a member of the somethingawful (and a minimum of 5 others) forum community for writing a verbose post. I'll keenly note you can't speak against it's content and instead are idly flailing your hands hoping it'll go away.
Not really. "Do not touch anything unnecessarily. Beware of pretty girls in dance halls and parks who may be spies, as well as bicycles, revolvers, uniforms, arms, dead horses, and men lying on roads -- they are not there accidentally." -Soviet infantry manual, issued in the 1930 |
Herzog Wolfhammer
Sigma Special Tactics Group
3186
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Posted - 2013.07.25 15:34:00 -
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Lucas Kell wrote:Herzog Wolfhammer wrote:Most of the station camping I have seen involve docking games.
While we have asked to be able to dock at Mittanigrad, a request that gets denied for some reason, I don't see Harry playing these games.
As for people crying on the forums, well, encouraging noobs to go and get killed means they expect it. We are not telling people to take their level 4 faction fit mission ships out there as if they are going to get hero kill runs, like this was some fantasy sword game.
From the looks of it so far it appears they are doing the least crying.
That any ship can use a gate and any ship can shoot is enough. Then you are unfamiliar with camping in null. The thing is though he's not saying go get killed. Hes talking about his 50 kills and VFK burning, and the end of the goons, and he's even talked about killing capitals and taking sov. He's bullshitting a bunch of naive noobs that don't know better.
You miss the point entirely. This has nothing to do with taking SOV. We don't even want it.
One of the ideas about nullsec is this whole "taking SOV" thing, as if it's the only thing to do. It's like gambling in Las Vegas just because you are in Las Vegas and forgetting that prostitution is legal there.
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Harry Forever
SpaceJunkys
479
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Posted - 2013.07.25 15:39:00 -
[798] - Quote
Herzog Wolfhammer wrote:Lucas Kell wrote:Herzog Wolfhammer wrote:Most of the station camping I have seen involve docking games.
While we have asked to be able to dock at Mittanigrad, a request that gets denied for some reason, I don't see Harry playing these games.
As for people crying on the forums, well, encouraging noobs to go and get killed means they expect it. We are not telling people to take their level 4 faction fit mission ships out there as if they are going to get hero kill runs, like this was some fantasy sword game.
From the looks of it so far it appears they are doing the least crying.
That any ship can use a gate and any ship can shoot is enough. Then you are unfamiliar with camping in null. The thing is though he's not saying go get killed. Hes talking about his 50 kills and VFK burning, and the end of the goons, and he's even talked about killing capitals and taking sov. He's bullshitting a bunch of naive noobs that don't know better. You miss the point entirely. This has nothing to do with taking SOV. We don't even want it. One of the ideas about nullsec is this whole "taking SOV" thing, as if it's the only thing to do. It's like gambling in Las Vegas just because you are in Las Vegas and forgetting that prostitution is legal there.
thats right we are like campers who sleep in their garden, no need for property there... they are all too much attached to their captains quarters, I prefer sleeping in a spaceship between the stars... thats what SpaceJunkys are all about...
only for the hardcore Goons Doomsday Event - 28. July |
Jimmy Morane
Aurora Novae Aetatis Expoit This Mf's
119
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Posted - 2013.07.25 15:45:00 -
[799] - Quote
Harry Forever wrote:thats right we are like campers who sleep in their garden, no need for property there... they are all too much attached to their captains quarters, I prefer sleeping in a spaceship between the stars... thats what SpaceJunkys are all about... only for the hardcore
So Spacejunkys is full of hardcore Jar Jar Binks types like you? |
Lucas Kell
JSR1 AND GOLDEN GUARDIAN PRODUCTIONS SpaceMonkey's Alliance
229
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Posted - 2013.07.25 15:53:00 -
[800] - Quote
Herzog Wolfhammer wrote:You miss the point entirely. This has nothing to do with taking SOV. We don't even want it.
One of the ideas about nullsec is this whole "taking SOV" thing, as if it's the only thing to do. It's like gambling in Las Vegas just because you are in Las Vegas and forgetting that prostitution is legal there.
And then I see bubble campers saying "blobdrop or gtfo nub" in local. What the hell is that supposed to mean? It's so cliche it feels like it's out of a script. Hmmm.... https://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=posts&m=3344887#post3344887 SBUs are for contesting sov you know.
And again, VFK is EMPTY. We are all DEPLOYED. So you are going there to look at empty space and speed up our cynos.
What that bubble camper meant is "you are not worth the time chasing you, bring friends or go away" The Indecisive Noob - A new EVE Fan Blog for news and stuff. |
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Khanh'rhh
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
2002
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Posted - 2013.07.25 16:10:00 -
[801] - Quote
Herzog Wolfhammer wrote:Thank you for taking so much time to write that. It seems like you care. Hope that does not get you fired.
Now keep in mind this is a game, and people should experiment. I've watched Harry's endeavors and have an alt in dessies doing similar things, and running into similar fitting challenges. Because we are not doing conventional stuff, we cannot adhere to conventional fitting doctrines. Your hurf-blurf that I can be "fired" for anything I say on Eve-O is, heh, amusing at best.
Look, the sooner you stop thinking you're on a holy quest or some **** and realize that exactly what you're doing / plan to do happens basically every day/week the sooner you'll reach enlightenment. You aren't doing anything special, so a special snowflake fit isn't necessary and remains counter-productive. People engage out-numbered in EvE every single day, and they do so without WCS fitted. Again, doing so actually decreases your changes vastly. To engage and kite you need range, tracking and maneuverability - all attributes that need lowslots you can't use as you're slapping WCS in there.
No-one needs to go out and reinvent the wheel when the concept at play here is as easy to understand. "Do not touch anything unnecessarily. Beware of pretty girls in dance halls and parks who may be spies, as well as bicycles, revolvers, uniforms, arms, dead horses, and men lying on roads -- they are not there accidentally." -Soviet infantry manual, issued in the 1930 |
Herzog Wolfhammer
Sigma Special Tactics Group
3188
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Posted - 2013.07.25 16:14:00 -
[802] - Quote
Khanh'rhh wrote:Herzog Wolfhammer wrote:Thank you for taking so much time to write that. It seems like you care. Hope that does not get you fired.
Now keep in mind this is a game, and people should experiment. I've watched Harry's endeavors and have an alt in dessies doing similar things, and running into similar fitting challenges. Because we are not doing conventional stuff, we cannot adhere to conventional fitting doctrines. Your hurf-blurf that I can be "fired" for anything I say on Eve-O is, heh, amusing at best. Look, the sooner you stop thinking you're on a holy quest or some **** and realize that exactly what you're doing / plan to do happens basically every day/week the sooner you'll reach enlightenment. You aren't doing anything special, so a special snowflake fit isn't necessary and remains counter-productive. People engage out-numbered in EvE every single day, and they do so without WCS fitted. Again, doing so actually decreases your changes vastly. To engage and kite you need range, tracking and maneuverability - all attributes that need lowslots you can't use as you're slapping WCS in there. No-one needs to go out and reinvent the wheel when the concept at play here is as easy to understand.
It's good to know we're not special. That takes off a lot of pressure and makes this more fun. |
Joepopo
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
100
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Posted - 2013.07.25 16:19:00 -
[803] - Quote
Khanh'rhh wrote: Your hurf-blurf that I can be "fired" for anything I say on Eve-O is, heh, amusing at best.
Look, the sooner you stop thinking you're on a holy quest or some **** and realize that exactly what you're doing / plan to do happens basically every day/week the sooner you'll reach enlightenment. You aren't doing anything special, so a special snowflake fit isn't necessary and remains counter-productive. People engage out-numbered in EvE every single day, and they do so without WCS fitted. Again, doing so actually decreases your changes vastly. To engage and kite you need range, tracking and maneuverability - all attributes that need lowslots you can't use as you're slapping WCS in there.
No-one needs to go out and reinvent the wheel when the concept at play here is as easy to understand.
I ll do the answers
Harry: You are so predictible goblin, look my thing work and I killed 50 ships already. Also: blocked.
Herzog: You need to think outside the box. You are so much slave to your null sec blobs. When I did exploration I fitted a new wave of paradigm with a fourth generation assimetry.
Ace: Look at that link about goons |
Leafar Nightfall
Grease Monkeys
17
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Posted - 2013.07.25 16:34:00 -
[804] - Quote
Khanh'rhh wrote:Leafar Nightfall wrote:Khanh'rhh wrote: Much like peeing on someone's garden to spite them, the person who owns the house invariably doesn't notice, whilst the perpetrator walks away thinking himself ~quite the man~ imagining how annoyed the person is going to be - a kind of self-generated schadenfreude that serves to fill the perp's need to rebel and little else.
And the blablabla below
I can see how the gnome owners are not caring by the size of the wall of text that they are trying to build around it You're accusing a member of the somethingawful (and a minimum of 5 others) forum community for writing a verbose post. I'll keenly note you can't speak against it's content and instead are idly flailing your hands hoping it'll go away. Not really.
And I keenly note that you do care about the Gnome
I don't expect it to go away, in fact that's the best part of this campaing: seeing people say that this is being done so wrong that it butthurts them. If that's so irrelevant and helpful, why bother? |
Alt Elongur
We Don't Like Bullies
17
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Posted - 2013.07.25 16:34:00 -
[805] - Quote
The closer it gets, the louder they buzz. Wish we could be there. This alt will self destruct in 10 seconds. |
Inxentas Ultramar
Ultramar Independent Contracting Home Front Coalition
622
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Posted - 2013.07.25 16:35:00 -
[806] - Quote
Lucas Kell wrote:He's not even pissing people off though. I'm only even bothering to post while I'm not at home, and that's through pure boredom. He's effectively camping an empty station. Then I stand corrected, I didn't realize the place was empty AND Goons get to keep it without defending it. That strikes me as weird in Eve Online but whatever. Can't he start anchoring SBUs if there's no-one to stop that? |
Maximillian German
Spectres Syndicate
28
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Posted - 2013.07.25 16:37:00 -
[807] - Quote
Harry Forever wrote:Maximillian German wrote:Oh Harry, you're like that kid on the playground who eats glue because everyone else dared him to. You feel popular because everyone laughs, but little do you know, the other kids are laughing at you. And the few people who felt bad for you in the beginning, have been alienated by your newfound and misplaced arrogance. and you are one of those kids who stands in a group just laughing at one, to feel strong, but you are not... I feel sorry for people like you... you make fun of others just to find friends who are as weak as you are... the more you are the stronger you feel but still weak inside you have to punch down on the really smart ones, because you are scared to death by them, knowing they can do things you would never be able to...
says the kid eating the glue. Genius indeed. |
Herzog Wolfhammer
Sigma Special Tactics Group
3188
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Posted - 2013.07.25 16:46:00 -
[808] - Quote
Inxentas Ultramar wrote:Lucas Kell wrote:He's not even pissing people off though. I'm only even bothering to post while I'm not at home, and that's through pure boredom. He's effectively camping an empty station. Then I stand corrected, I didn't realize the place was empty AND Goons get to keep it without defending it. That strikes me as weird in Eve Online but whatever. Can't he start anchoring SBUs if there's no-one to stop that?
Almost anybody could, but the mechanics around SBUs is basically all about "Blob-o-rama". |
Harry Forever
SpaceJunkys
479
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Posted - 2013.07.25 17:11:00 -
[809] - Quote
Maximillian German wrote:Harry Forever wrote:Maximillian German wrote:Oh Harry, you're like that kid on the playground who eats glue because everyone else dared him to. You feel popular because everyone laughs, but little do you know, the other kids are laughing at you. And the few people who felt bad for you in the beginning, have been alienated by your newfound and misplaced arrogance. and you are one of those kids who stands in a group just laughing at one, to feel strong, but you are not... I feel sorry for people like you... you make fun of others just to find friends who are as weak as you are... the more you are the stronger you feel but still weak inside you have to punch down on the really smart ones, because you are scared to death by them, knowing they can do things you would never be able to... says the kid eating the glue. Genius indeed.
dude I have seen you sneaking up on this thread like the normal coward, first looking if some friends punch down on anybody, and as soon as you see there is 10 vs. 1 you jump in on it doing the same, wow sure everybody is clapping hands for you right now, you are the hero of the day
blocked you anyoing ***** Goons Doomsday Event - 28. July |
Alavaria Fera
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
3881
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Posted - 2013.07.25 17:19:00 -
[810] - Quote
Inxentas Ultramar wrote:Lucas Kell wrote:He's not even pissing people off though. I'm only even bothering to post while I'm not at home, and that's through pure boredom. He's effectively camping an empty station. Then I stand corrected, I didn't realize the place was empty AND Goons get to keep it without defending it. That strikes me as weird in Eve Online but whatever. Can't he start anchoring SBUs if there's no-one to stop that? Anyone can drop an SBU and start onlining it.
100 million isk each, I think. And a blockade runner. You need more than one SBU to make VFK vulnerable of course.
Then to shoot the ihub and station, which have hundreds of millions of EHP when put together. That might take more than one guy in a catalyst... There are no goons. The goons' 0.0 dream is over. Fountain will never fall. Deklein by September. Thought is not heresy, wrong thought is.
PL, NC., N3, Tribe, 401k, you are our only hope ! ~TEST2013 |
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Alavaria Fera
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
3881
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Posted - 2013.07.25 17:21:00 -
[811] - Quote
Khanh'rhh wrote:Your hurf-blurf that I can be "fired" for anything I say on Eve-O is, heh, amusing at best. Being a terrible poster on EVEO GD or CAOD is allowed. There are no goons. The goons' 0.0 dream is over. Fountain will never fall. Deklein by September. Thought is not heresy, wrong thought is.
PL, NC., N3, Tribe, 401k, you are our only hope ! ~TEST2013 |
Harry Forever
SpaceJunkys
479
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Posted - 2013.07.25 17:23:00 -
[812] - Quote
Inxentas Ultramar wrote:Lucas Kell wrote:He's not even pissing people off though. I'm only even bothering to post while I'm not at home, and that's through pure boredom. He's effectively camping an empty station. Then I stand corrected, I didn't realize the place was empty AND Goons get to keep it without defending it. That strikes me as weird in Eve Online but whatever. Can't he start anchoring SBUs if there's no-one to stop that?
I told TEST to bring some SBUs and distract the goons in their local space with the carebear fleet, but that probably was too much for them to process as well, they said "NOOOO TAHT NO BIG FLEET NO WORK" something like that, after that I blocked all comunication Goons Doomsday Event - 28. July |
Ustrello
Amok. Goonswarm Federation
125
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Posted - 2013.07.25 17:29:00 -
[813] - Quote
So anytime someone disagrees with you, you shout lalalala I block you huehuehue |
Harry Forever
SpaceJunkys
479
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Posted - 2013.07.25 17:29:00 -
[814] - Quote
Alavaria Fera wrote:Inxentas Ultramar wrote:Lucas Kell wrote:He's not even pissing people off though. I'm only even bothering to post while I'm not at home, and that's through pure boredom. He's effectively camping an empty station. Then I stand corrected, I didn't realize the place was empty AND Goons get to keep it without defending it. That strikes me as weird in Eve Online but whatever. Can't he start anchoring SBUs if there's no-one to stop that? Anyone can drop an SBU and start onlining it. 100 million isk each, I think. And a blockade runner. You need more than one SBU to make VFK vulnerable of course. Then to shoot the ihub and station, which have hundreds of millions of EHP when put together. That might take more than one guy in a catalyst...
exactly it takes the whole playerbase and somebody to setup the SBUs, I encourage every alliance to do so on the 28. every player in eve to come and crush down on VFK, blow them all up... TEST should push hard in fountain... I want everybody to fight the goons in their hometown, its about time Goons Doomsday Event - 28. July |
Harry Forever
SpaceJunkys
479
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Posted - 2013.07.25 17:30:00 -
[815] - Quote
Ustrello wrote:So anytime someone disagrees with you, you shout lalalala I block you huehuehue
i only block anoying bitches, don't have time for that ****... if you don't have the balls to do so, fine, go chat with him a bit, it seems like he needs some friends Goons Doomsday Event - 28. July |
Inxentas Ultramar
Ultramar Independent Contracting Home Front Coalition
625
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Posted - 2013.07.25 17:47:00 -
[816] - Quote
Alavaria Fera wrote:100 million isk each, I think. And a blockade runner. You need more than one SBU to make VFK vulnerable of course. Then to shoot the ihub and station, which have hundreds of millions of EHP when put together. That might take more than one guy in a catalyst...
Thanks for the concise explanation. 50% of the gates need an SBU right? A fundraiser for a couple of 100m shouldn't be outside of Harry's capacities, nor would be recruiting a blockade runner. The bottleneck is (unsurprisingly) the enormous amount of HP to chew through once it is vulnerable. This challenge is indeed outside of his options and choice of ships, but that might change. This 40 page loltrain is a start to Harry's stardom.
Harry Forever wrote:by the way the place is not empty, thats why they make so much nois about it, they haul stuff around carriers jump in and out, thats their weak spot at the moment, all their fleet is in fountain, having two fronts is the issue, and thats what they don't want to happen
I am glad you find yourself in a target rich environment. Is that a Bestower with a couple of command centers I see on your killboard? I have only skimmed it briefly but it confirms the place isn't empty. While the value of what you killed was low, it's potential return on investment (PI) was high. You seem to be disrupting their PI chains at least.
If you feel like bashing structures, why not go for the Customs Offices? They have way less HP then the IHUBs and are obviously in use. Also requires more then a catalyst but a determined BC fleet can already knock 'em over, some Battleships will make short work of them. The how and when of such an operation I leave up to you, but good luck in your campaign and keep us posted! |
Harry Forever
SpaceJunkys
479
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Posted - 2013.07.25 17:59:00 -
[817] - Quote
Inxentas Ultramar wrote:Alavaria Fera wrote:100 million isk each, I think. And a blockade runner. You need more than one SBU to make VFK vulnerable of course. Then to shoot the ihub and station, which have hundreds of millions of EHP when put together. That might take more than one guy in a catalyst... Thanks for the concise explanation. 50% of the gates need an SBU right? A fundraiser for a couple of 100m shouldn't be outside of Harry's capacities, nor would be recruiting a blockade runner. The bottleneck is (unsurprisingly) the enormous amount of HP to chew through once it is vulnerable. This challenge is indeed outside of his options and choice of ships, but that might change. This 40 page loltrain is a start to Harry's stardom. Harry Forever wrote:by the way the place is not empty, thats why they make so much nois about it, they haul stuff around carriers jump in and out, thats their weak spot at the moment, all their fleet is in fountain, having two fronts is the issue, and thats what they don't want to happen I am glad you find yourself in a target rich environment. Is that a Bestower with a couple of command centers I see on your killboard? I have only skimmed it briefly but it confirms the place isn't empty. While the value of what you killed was low, it's potential return on investment (PI) was high. You seem to be disrupting their PI chains at least. If you feel like bashing structures, why not go for the Customs Offices? They have way less HP then the IHUBs and are obviously in use. Also requires more then a catalyst but a determined BC fleet can already knock 'em over, some Battleships will make short work of them. The how and when of such an operation I leave up to you, but good luck in your campaign and keep us posted!
yea the kills are just like a promotour at the moment, basically i just went there to show people that we can shoot stuff and hit the goons in their butt, especially as a new player... the big outcry from the nullsec people made me feel like they want more of that, its hard to keep everybody happy though, seems like a fulltime job but I will do my best to keep everybody excited ;) Goons Doomsday Event - 28. July |
Lucas Kell
JSR1 AND GOLDEN GUARDIAN PRODUCTIONS SpaceMonkey's Alliance
231
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Posted - 2013.07.25 19:13:00 -
[818] - Quote
Inxentas Ultramar wrote:Lucas Kell wrote:He's not even pissing people off though. I'm only even bothering to post while I'm not at home, and that's through pure boredom. He's effectively camping an empty station. Then I stand corrected, I didn't realize the place was empty AND Goons get to keep it without defending it. That strikes me as weird in Eve Online but whatever. Can't he start anchoring SBUs if there's no-one to stop that? You could just pick all this up from previous posts, but I'll clarify just for you. CFC (Goons and co) are deployed to a war right now. VFK is empty. So hanging around in it won't generate content. Should you be able to bring and online an SBU, you have timers to wait for, during which time a small home defense contingent would come and blap the sbu into pieces for you, then return to the battlefield. We can death clone back and forth, so it doesn't take up any time to do, we just won't bother just for a couple of nubships. Get a realistically threatening fleet and it might be worth the bother. The Indecisive Noob - A new EVE Fan Blog for news and stuff. |
Herzog Wolfhammer
Sigma Special Tactics Group
3189
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Posted - 2013.07.25 20:30:00 -
[819] - Quote
So far this thread alone has generated a significant amount of butthurt.
I don't think the goons are so threatened by this project as much as the concept threatens the nullsec status quo.
I mean seriously, these nuggets of wisdom from nullsec talking to the locals who seemed rather angry at the concept, and these are not even goons.
XXXX> blah blah hotdrop or run mofo n++ XXXX> Join a larger alliance before your smoked n++ XXXX > you will get rapped n++ XXXX > were a fking pvp corp dumb ass n++ XXXX > your in nulsec, your in pure blind, wee see a neutral and your dead n++ XXXX > I am going to kill mercilessly and feed on the idiot nood tears
I was under the impression that this crowd would be happy to get targets, but they were butthurt that the less than 1M SP char who sent this to me after getting caught in their bubble camp managed to escape.
So I get it. The only acceptable targets are the ones they can kill, not escape them, or even have the potential to shoot back, and not even the experience to manage it if they try.
How is it real experience if everybody "hotdrop or run mofo"? The "leet" PVP of nullsec is not what it seems. This only highlights what Harry's ragtag crew of noobs and Russians are doing: they are getting past these camps (not quite the Rhodes Scholars you expect leet PVPers, these campers, to be I must admit) and killing ships.
The strangest thing is that I was under the impression that nullsec players are not afraid to get podded, but all this "blob or gtfo" thing is based on... not getting killed:
XXXX > he has some idea in his head let him go die with it n++ YYYY > die? n++ YYYY > I have a clone you know. n++ YYYY> Getting podded does not kill me in RL. You guys know that, right? n++XXXX> YYYY cant smack talk tries to hard
By the way, that's the best of what I have seen (complete and coherent sentences) so far. If these are the people highsec is supposed to be afraid of, I would say the propaganda has certainly done its job well.
But as I have written before, the butthurt potential of people waiting in a camp for hours and still not getting their kill is impressive. What we call "tears" in highsec (when someone actually SAYS anything as their loot is getting stolen for example) is apparently renamed as smacktalk in nullsec and everybody basks in the eliteness of something that would get them ridiculed in highsec by people who duel, dec, and/or garner 1v1 fights the old fashioned way. Also perhaps by even the endless lot of their victims who accept their responsibility for their mistakes and keep their mouths shut.
Consider how nullsec, beyond these campers and gank pipelines is a beared up ISK fountain galore and how simple things disrupt that (consider the neverending "CCP must end AFK Cloaking" threads, for example) is also a wellspring from whence much butthurt could flow.
Consider also that this has gone 40 pages yet "nobody is being harmed or bothered by this".
We've been missing a gold mine. Nullseccers are not greifers, but the greifers have been playing in the wrong space. They too were told that highsec is the wellspring from whence all that is wrong in the player base flows, and hence should be ganked, scammed, griefed - all for the good of the people.
Yeah, there's a pattern to the propaganda. Starting to feel like it's coming from a more centralized source.
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Rhivre
TarNec Invisible Exchequer
347
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Posted - 2013.07.25 20:48:00 -
[820] - Quote
"Consider also that this has gone 40 pages yet "nobody is being harmed or bothered by this". "
That is akin to people not realising that yes, sometimes people have laughed at genius, but mostly they have laughed at, and turned up to see in great numbers, Bobo the Clown |
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Lucas Kell
JSR1 AND GOLDEN GUARDIAN PRODUCTIONS SpaceMonkey's Alliance
231
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Posted - 2013.07.25 22:31:00 -
[821] - Quote
Rhivre wrote:"Consider also that this has gone 40 pages yet "nobody is being harmed or bothered by this". "
That is akin to people not realising that yes, sometimes people have laughed at genius, but mostly they have laughed at, and turned up to see in great numbers, Bobo the Clown Indeed, look at most of the threads in GD. The ones with people asking serious questions or just general chit chat drop off quick. The ones where someone is acting like an idiot usually go on for about 10 pages after that idiot finally decides to leave, which is often 20+ pages down the line. The Indecisive Noob - A new EVE Fan Blog for news and stuff. |
Balthusdire Dominus
The Graduates RAZOR Alliance
3
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Posted - 2013.07.25 23:07:00 -
[822] - Quote
Harry is king of Ad hominem...he really can't actually dispute what is being said.
Spend some time reading up on sbus please...you might understand that dropping an sbu has literally no effect on an alliance. it is what you do when you drop it that matters...and taking down structures and dealing with timers requires a big fleet with lots of coordination.
Harry just wants to feel like he is doing something, so good for you, cute fella, keep it up. If it makes you feel special never stop. |
Sergeant Acht Scultz
School of Applied Knowledge Caldari State
1022
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Posted - 2013.07.25 23:55:00 -
[823] - Quote
And why instead of hitting them from behind (some will even ask for more) why don't you try to hit them right in the front? *removed inappropriate ASCII art signature* - CCP Eterne |
Moneta Curran
Lunar Industries Ltd
116
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Posted - 2013.07.25 23:55:00 -
[824] - Quote
Hi Harry.
It looks like your efforts need to be doubled to turn back the tide.
We are all rooting for you.
You're special. |
Setaceous
Nexus Prima
199
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Posted - 2013.07.26 00:00:00 -
[825] - Quote
So then, would a billion isk donation help this wee cause along a bit? |
Alt Elongur
We Don't Like Bullies
19
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Posted - 2013.07.26 00:22:00 -
[826] - Quote
Pushing 5 pages in a single day. Harry is absolutely having an impact. This alt will self destruct in 10 seconds. |
Elizabeth Aideron
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
107
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Posted - 2013.07.26 00:47:00 -
[827] - Quote
winning the posting war |
Elizabeth Aideron
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
107
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Posted - 2013.07.26 00:49:00 -
[828] - Quote
alright guys, the likeboard is green |
Herzog Wolfhammer
Sigma Special Tactics Group
3189
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Posted - 2013.07.26 00:52:00 -
[829] - Quote
Goon forum warriors aside, the game is being played.
My hope for this event is that people end up doing things they normally don't do. I normally don't bother with nullsec beyond trespassing so deep into it nobody bothers to catch me. But that's another matter.
Anybody notice how much the playerbase is left to devise the definition of the game? People beg for "clarification" quite often. I remember a dev saying in a forum post "suicide ganking is not supposed to be profitable" and the firestorm that caused. There were people who's entire game identity, credo, religion, or whatever, was based on suicide ganking.
Otherwise there are plenty of answers all around us. I think they enjoy being silent on what the game "is".
It's what we make it, and it need not (much to the chagrin of the misguided greifer community) become everybody's game. Maybe for some people, THAT is their game. For others, driving people away from the game is their game and they'd high-five each other if a day ever came that the lights were shut off on Eve because everybody left.
And even so, we are left with only one option: if you don't like it, do something about it.
Some of us don't like the corporate feudalism of nullsec and don't want to play that game the way it's defined by those who live there. I already been there, and haven't. There are those who would criticize because my game is not filling the killboard. So what. It certainly filled the station lock box with more loot than I know what to do with (I end up giving a lot of it away).
So, regardless of who has Forum Fu up to level 5, ships will still be violenced, and people are still going to play the game.
Overall, I am somewhat glad that Harry's project is making people nervous enough to come in here and claim they are not nervous. There are things we know from.... "informants"... that we don't share in this forum in order to protect them. It would be a lot to think they are going to lose sleep in Mittanigrad, but they will be losing more ships.
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Deaath
The Four Horseman Fatal Ascension
0
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Posted - 2013.07.26 00:59:00 -
[830] - Quote
Well that was kind of anti-climatic. The biggest chunk if not 90% of Fountain will fall withing the next 3-4 days. Test is imploding.
It is kind of sorry for their "Logi Director" to have cleared out 6VDT, Karan and all the other logi hangers, stealing all the Pos stuff, Sov stuff and assorted ships. LOL
As was said on the forum that shall not be named - If you're in a director roll and wanna line your pockets on the way out, better get going. Otherwise the cupboards will be bare..
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Balthusdire Dominus
The Graduates RAZOR Alliance
3
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Posted - 2013.07.26 01:17:00 -
[831] - Quote
Herzog Wolfhammer wrote:Goon forum warriors aside, the game is being played.
My hope for this event is that people end up doing things they normally don't do. I normally don't bother with nullsec beyond trespassing so deep into it nobody bothers to catch me. But that's another matter.
Anybody notice how much the playerbase is left to devise the definition of the game? People beg for "clarification" quite often. I remember a dev saying in a forum post "suicide ganking is not supposed to be profitable" and the firestorm that caused. There were people who's entire game identity, credo, religion, or whatever, was based on suicide ganking.
Otherwise there are plenty of answers all around us. I think they enjoy being silent on what the game "is".
It's what we make it, and it need not (much to the chagrin of the misguided greifer community) become everybody's game. Maybe for some people, THAT is their game. For others, driving people away from the game is their game and they'd high-five each other if a day ever came that the lights were shut off on Eve because everybody left.
And even so, we are left with only one option: if you don't like it, do something about it.
Some of us don't like the corporate feudalism of nullsec and don't want to play that game the way it's defined by those who live there. I already been there, and haven't. There are those who would criticize because my game is not filling the killboard. So what. It certainly filled the station lock box with more loot than I know what to do with (I end up giving a lot of it away).
So, regardless of who has Forum Fu up to level 5, ships will still be violenced, and people are still going to play the game.
Overall, I am somewhat glad that Harry's project is making people nervous enough to come in here and claim they are not nervous. There are things we know from.... "informants"... that we don't share in this forum in order to protect them. It would be a lot to think they are going to lose sleep in Mittanigrad, but they will be losing more ships.
Goons come to this thread not because they are nervous, but because it is fun to watch you guys. You have a complete lack of understanding of how goons and null sec work.
You don't need permission for every little thing. Goons do not gank people in high sec, scam people, or anything else because they want to push them out of the game they do it because it's fun. If you guys came to vfk to have fun, all the goons would laugh and support you because that is what they do. Because you have decided to go on a holy crusade for reasons that are ridiculous and completely not true that is why you see people coming in here and ridiculing you.
Go, fight, camp, enjoy the world of PVP, gank everything, that is what you goons want you to do but don't think for a moment that you're doing anything to damage them, the industry base or anything about how they exist all you're doing is making them happy and creating content which is what Goons do. |
Herzog Wolfhammer
Sigma Special Tactics Group
3189
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Posted - 2013.07.26 01:21:00 -
[832] - Quote
Balthusdire Dominus wrote:Herzog Wolfhammer wrote:Goon forum warriors aside, the game is being played.
My hope for this event is that people end up doing things they normally don't do. I normally don't bother with nullsec beyond trespassing so deep into it nobody bothers to catch me. But that's another matter.
Anybody notice how much the playerbase is left to devise the definition of the game? People beg for "clarification" quite often. I remember a dev saying in a forum post "suicide ganking is not supposed to be profitable" and the firestorm that caused. There were people who's entire game identity, credo, religion, or whatever, was based on suicide ganking.
Otherwise there are plenty of answers all around us. I think they enjoy being silent on what the game "is".
It's what we make it, and it need not (much to the chagrin of the misguided greifer community) become everybody's game. Maybe for some people, THAT is their game. For others, driving people away from the game is their game and they'd high-five each other if a day ever came that the lights were shut off on Eve because everybody left.
And even so, we are left with only one option: if you don't like it, do something about it.
Some of us don't like the corporate feudalism of nullsec and don't want to play that game the way it's defined by those who live there. I already been there, and haven't. There are those who would criticize because my game is not filling the killboard. So what. It certainly filled the station lock box with more loot than I know what to do with (I end up giving a lot of it away).
So, regardless of who has Forum Fu up to level 5, ships will still be violenced, and people are still going to play the game.
Overall, I am somewhat glad that Harry's project is making people nervous enough to come in here and claim they are not nervous. There are things we know from.... "informants"... that we don't share in this forum in order to protect them. It would be a lot to think they are going to lose sleep in Mittanigrad, but they will be losing more ships.
Goons come to this thread not because they are nervous, but because it is fun to watch you guys. You have a complete lack of understanding of how goons and null sec work. You don't need permission for every little thing. Goons do not gank people in high sec, scam people, or anything else because they want to push them out of the game they do it because it's fun. If you guys came to vfk to have fun, all the goons would laugh and support you because that is what they do. Because you have decided to go on a holy crusade for reasons that are ridiculous and completely not true that is why you see people coming in here and ridiculing you. Go fight camp enjoy the world of PVP, gank everything, that is what you goons want you to do but don't think for a moment that you're doing anything to damage them, the industry base or anything about how they exist all you're doing is making them happy and creating content which is what Goons do.
Looks like everybody is going to have a good time then. |
Balthusdire Dominus
The Graduates RAZOR Alliance
3
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Posted - 2013.07.26 01:28:00 -
[833] - Quote
Yup. |
Harry Forever
SpaceJunkys
486
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Posted - 2013.07.26 06:35:00 -
[834] - Quote
Alt Elongur wrote:Pushing 5 pages in a single day. Harry is absolutely having an impact.
yea it seems we pushed hard enough, the thing has its own dynamic now, that indicates that the masses start rolling in the same direction, its in the minds of the thousands, and they will want to go there, I can feel it
goblins still shouting "NOOO WE NOT CARE!!" are just whispers in the void from now on... the mob is looking into the direction of VFK, it will not take long until the ships start rolling Goons Doomsday Event - 28. July |
William Walker
House Aratus Fatal Ascension
144
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Posted - 2013.07.26 06:37:00 -
[835] - Quote
Harry Forever wrote:Alt Elongur wrote:Pushing 5 pages in a single day. Harry is absolutely having an impact. yea it seems we pushed hard enough, the thing has its own dynamic now, that indicates that the masses start rolling in the same direction, its in the minds of the thousands, and they will want to go there, I can feel it goblins still shouting "NOOO WE NOT CARE!!" are just wispers in the void from now on... the mob is looking into the direction of VFK, it will not take long until the ships start rolling
Muh daily dose.
Harry Forever wrote:the masses start rolling in the same direction, its in the minds of the thousands, and they will want to go there, I can feel it
Godspeed Harry :') pâ+(*GîÆGêçGîÆ*)n+ë pü+(pé£GêçpÇü-¦)pü+ (GùòGÇ+GùòG£+) |
Harry Forever
SpaceJunkys
486
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Posted - 2013.07.26 07:16:00 -
[836] - Quote
Setaceous wrote:So then, would a billion isk donation help this wee cause along a bit?
with a billion isk i would guarantee to buy a 1000 bombs and we will hammer those down onto ships waiting infront of mittanigrad, the gates in VFK and close by gatecamps on the route, my bomber skills are still not ready but will be in ca. 4 days... we got ca. 5 bomber pilots in the system, with our russian friends its 7... I will assure those and new pilots have access to the bombs and we guarantee neverending destruction until the end of time Goons Doomsday Event - 28. July |
Lucas Kell
JSR1 AND GOLDEN GUARDIAN PRODUCTIONS SpaceMonkey's Alliance
232
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Posted - 2013.07.26 08:42:00 -
[837] - Quote
Harry Forever wrote:Setaceous wrote:So then, would a billion isk donation help this wee cause along a bit? with a billion isk i would guarantee to buy a 1000 bombs and we will hammer those down onto ships waiting infront of mittanigrad, the gates in VFK and close by gatecamps on the route, my bomber skills are still not ready but will be in ca. 4 days... we got ca. 5 bomber pilots in the system, with our russian friends its 7... I will assure those and new pilots have access to the bombs and we guarantee complete destruction until the end of time BWA HA HA! When I saw the offer for a billion isk, I was going to make a joke about how you wouldn't know what to do with it. This is better than that.
EDIT: Oh and just out of curiosity, do you even know how bombs work? Most first time bombers (and most of test) bomb themselves which would be brilliant to watch. The Indecisive Noob - A new EVE Fan Blog for news and stuff. |
Herzog Wolfhammer
Sigma Special Tactics Group
3191
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Posted - 2013.07.26 08:47:00 -
[838] - Quote
Bombing oneself is something you'll only do once. |
Khanh'rhh
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
2003
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Posted - 2013.07.26 08:48:00 -
[839] - Quote
Harry Forever wrote:I told TEST to bring some SBUs and distract the goons in their local space with the carebear fleet, but that probably was too much for them to process as well, they said "NOOOO TAHT NO BIG FLEET NO WORK" something like that, after that I blocked all comunication by the way the place is not empty, thats why they make so much nois about it, they haul stuff around carriers jump in and out, thats their weak spot at the moment, all their fleet is in fountain, having two fronts is the issue, and thats what they don't want to happen If a lot of players would start to hit them hard in VFK and even bring SBUs they would need to splitup, and then everything can happen, too bad the masses of players do not realize that yet, however with time... they will Genuine question: how long do you think it takes to move a fleet from 4-E to VFK "Do not touch anything unnecessarily. Beware of pretty girls in dance halls and parks who may be spies, as well as bicycles, revolvers, uniforms, arms, dead horses, and men lying on roads -- they are not there accidentally." -Soviet infantry manual, issued in the 1930 |
Herzog Wolfhammer
Sigma Special Tactics Group
3191
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Posted - 2013.07.26 08:50:00 -
[840] - Quote
Khanh'rhh wrote:Harry Forever wrote:I told TEST to bring some SBUs and distract the goons in their local space with the carebear fleet, but that probably was too much for them to process as well, they said "NOOOO TAHT NO BIG FLEET NO WORK" something like that, after that I blocked all comunication by the way the place is not empty, thats why they make so much nois about it, they haul stuff around carriers jump in and out, thats their weak spot at the moment, all their fleet is in fountain, having two fronts is the issue, and thats what they don't want to happen If a lot of players would start to hit them hard in VFK and even bring SBUs they would need to splitup, and then everything can happen, too bad the masses of players do not realize that yet, however with time... they will Genuine question: how long do you think it takes to move a fleet from 4-E to VFK
With or without smacktalk? |
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bloodknight2
Talledega Knights PLEASE NOT VIOLENCE OUR BOATS
128
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Posted - 2013.07.26 08:52:00 -
[841] - Quote
I never bombed myself. I must be special <3 |
Herzog Wolfhammer
Sigma Special Tactics Group
3192
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Posted - 2013.07.26 08:54:00 -
[842] - Quote
bloodknight2 wrote:I never bombed myself. I must be special <3
I bomb myself all of the time. |
Khanh'rhh
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
2003
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Posted - 2013.07.26 08:55:00 -
[843] - Quote
Herzog Wolfhammer wrote:So far this thread alone has generated a significant amount of butthurt. There's no butthurt. We're calmly and factually telling you why it won't work (verifiable by eve-pedia) and your side is just saying "LALALALALA NO NO NO NO NO NO DON'T LISTEN TO FACT RISE UP LALALALALA" "Do not touch anything unnecessarily. Beware of pretty girls in dance halls and parks who may be spies, as well as bicycles, revolvers, uniforms, arms, dead horses, and men lying on roads -- they are not there accidentally." -Soviet infantry manual, issued in the 1930 |
Lucas Kell
JSR1 AND GOLDEN GUARDIAN PRODUCTIONS SpaceMonkey's Alliance
232
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Posted - 2013.07.26 09:00:00 -
[844] - Quote
Khanh'rhh wrote:Harry Forever wrote:I told TEST to bring some SBUs and distract the goons in their local space with the carebear fleet, but that probably was too much for them to process as well, they said "NOOOO TAHT NO BIG FLEET NO WORK" something like that, after that I blocked all comunication by the way the place is not empty, thats why they make so much nois about it, they haul stuff around carriers jump in and out, thats their weak spot at the moment, all their fleet is in fountain, having two fronts is the issue, and thats what they don't want to happen If a lot of players would start to hit them hard in VFK and even bring SBUs they would need to splitup, and then everything can happen, too bad the masses of players do not realize that yet, however with time... they will Genuine question: how long do you think it takes to move a fleet from 4-E to VFK A few minutes give or take. He undoutedly thinks we gate there. It's great how he thinks logistics means it's not empty. He won't catch a carrier or a JF, so for the purpose of his visits the system is empty. A couple of people doing PI now and then and anyone that chooses to engage him voluntarily. The Indecisive Noob - A new EVE Fan Blog for news and stuff. |
Harry Forever
SpaceJunkys
486
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Posted - 2013.07.26 09:03:00 -
[845] - Quote
Khanh'rhh wrote:Herzog Wolfhammer wrote:So far this thread alone has generated a significant amount of butthurt. There's no butthurt. We're calmly and factually telling you why it won't work (verifiable by eve-pedia) and your side is just saying "LALALALALA NO NO NO NO NO NO DON'T LISTEN TO FACT RISE UP LALALALALA"
people like you are really fun and never are able to achieve anything in life, you just keep telling others what they can not do... you just holdup progress of others and yourself, why not instead of holding up the world, just move on and try to do something yourself?
but no you keep telling others what they can not do, just because you are the only one who can't do **** Goons Doomsday Event - 28. July |
Joepopo
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
103
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Posted - 2013.07.26 09:08:00 -
[846] - Quote
Harry Forever wrote: but no you keep telling others what they can not do, just because you are the only one who can't do ****
people like you are extremely anyoing and not only a pain for this game but for the whole planet
OK Harry, but mind that you still can't divide by 0. |
Harry Forever
SpaceJunkys
486
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Posted - 2013.07.26 09:10:00 -
[847] - Quote
Joepopo wrote:Harry Forever wrote: but no you keep telling others what they can not do, just because you are the only one who can't do ****
people like you are extremely anyoing and not only a pain for this game but for the whole planet
OK Harry, but mind that you still can't divide by 0.
dude you know that people where thinking stars are hanging down from the skys on ropes some hundred years ago, they where sure about that as well, think about it and open your mind Goons Doomsday Event - 28. July |
William Walker
House Aratus Fatal Ascension
145
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Posted - 2013.07.26 09:12:00 -
[848] - Quote
Harry Forever wrote:Setaceous wrote:So then, would a billion isk donation help this wee cause along a bit? with a billion isk i would guarantee to buy a 1000 bombs and we will hammer those down onto ships waiting infront of mittanigrad, the gates in VFK and close by gatecamps on the route, my bomber skills are still not ready but will be in ca. 4 days... we got ca. 5 bomber pilots in the system, with our russian friends its 7... I will assure those and new pilots have access to the bombs and we guarantee complete destruction until the end of time
Muh daily dose. Let me help you out with some rhetoric Harry.
Highsec carebears! Mission runners! Lend me your ears! The oppression of nullsec alliances has gone on too long! Too long have we been forced to tank our ships, not haul our PLEX, and not autopilot around highsec! We must act, by sending a message! A message that the nullsec oppressive facists will only understand with the force of lasers and bullets, bombs and smacktalk! Their cyno ships will burn! Their PI haulers will fizzle! Their ratting ships will avoid VFK! Soon VFK will be barren and lonely, like their MOTHERS! Long live Harry Forever! pâ+(*GîÆGêçGîÆ*)n+ë pü+(pé£GêçpÇü-¦)pü+ (GùòGÇ+GùòG£+) |
Joepopo
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
104
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Posted - 2013.07.26 09:19:00 -
[849] - Quote
Harry Forever wrote:Joepopo wrote:Harry Forever wrote: but no you keep telling others what they can not do, just because you are the only one who can't do ****
people like you are extremely anyoing and not only a pain for this game but for the whole planet
OK Harry, but mind that you still can't divide by 0. dude you know that people where thinking stars are hanging down from the skys on ropes some hundred years ago, they where sure about that as well, think about it and open your mind
Lol these scientists just try to force their ideas into everyone.
People should just be given all possible theory and decide what they believe in. |
Harry Forever
SpaceJunkys
486
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Posted - 2013.07.26 09:21:00 -
[850] - Quote
William Walker wrote:Harry Forever wrote:Setaceous wrote:So then, would a billion isk donation help this wee cause along a bit? with a billion isk i would guarantee to buy a 1000 bombs and we will hammer those down onto ships waiting infront of mittanigrad, the gates in VFK and close by gatecamps on the route, my bomber skills are still not ready but will be in ca. 4 days... we got ca. 5 bomber pilots in the system, with our russian friends its 7... I will assure those and new pilots have access to the bombs and we guarantee complete destruction until the end of time Muh daily dose. Let me help you out with some rhetoric Harry. Highsec carebears! Mission runners! Lend me your ears! The oppression of nullsec alliances has gone on too long! Too long have we been forced to tank our ships, not haul our PLEX, and not autopilot around highsec! We must act, by sending a message! A message that the nullsec oppressive facists will only understand with the force of lasers and bullets, bombs and smacktalk! Their cyno ships will burn! Their PI haulers will fizzle! Their ratting ships will avoid VFK! Soon VFK will be barren and lonely, like their MOTHERS! Long live Harry Forever!
nice one! :D It won't take long and you will start bombing goons yourself :D Goons Doomsday Event - 28. July |
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Alpheias
Euphoria Released Verge of Collapse
2267
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Posted - 2013.07.26 09:35:00 -
[851] - Quote
Harry Forever wrote:William Walker wrote:Harry Forever wrote:Setaceous wrote:So then, would a billion isk donation help this wee cause along a bit? with a billion isk i would guarantee to buy a 1000 bombs and we will hammer those down onto ships waiting infront of mittanigrad, the gates in VFK and close by gatecamps on the route, my bomber skills are still not ready but will be in ca. 4 days... we got ca. 5 bomber pilots in the system, with our russian friends its 7... I will assure those and new pilots have access to the bombs and we guarantee complete destruction until the end of time Muh daily dose. Let me help you out with some rhetoric Harry. Highsec carebears! Mission runners! Lend me your ears! The oppression of nullsec alliances has gone on too long! Too long have we been forced to tank our ships, not haul our PLEX, and not autopilot around highsec! We must act, by sending a message! A message that the nullsec oppressive facists will only understand with the force of lasers and bullets, bombs and smacktalk! Their cyno ships will burn! Their PI haulers will fizzle! Their ratting ships will avoid VFK! Soon VFK will be barren and lonely, like their MOTHERS! Long live Harry Forever! nice one! :D It won't take long and you will start bombing goons yourself :D
So, how is that doomsday of yours coming along? Allow me to be frank. You will not like me. You will not like me now, and you will not like men++ a good deal less as we go on. |
Harry Forever
SpaceJunkys
486
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Posted - 2013.07.26 09:41:00 -
[852] - Quote
Alpheias wrote:Harry Forever wrote:William Walker wrote:Harry Forever wrote:Setaceous wrote:So then, would a billion isk donation help this wee cause along a bit? with a billion isk i would guarantee to buy a 1000 bombs and we will hammer those down onto ships waiting infront of mittanigrad, the gates in VFK and close by gatecamps on the route, my bomber skills are still not ready but will be in ca. 4 days... we got ca. 5 bomber pilots in the system, with our russian friends its 7... I will assure those and new pilots have access to the bombs and we guarantee complete destruction until the end of time Muh daily dose. Let me help you out with some rhetoric Harry. Highsec carebears! Mission runners! Lend me your ears! The oppression of nullsec alliances has gone on too long! Too long have we been forced to tank our ships, not haul our PLEX, and not autopilot around highsec! We must act, by sending a message! A message that the nullsec oppressive facists will only understand with the force of lasers and bullets, bombs and smacktalk! Their cyno ships will burn! Their PI haulers will fizzle! Their ratting ships will avoid VFK! Soon VFK will be barren and lonely, like their MOTHERS! Long live Harry Forever! nice one! :D It won't take long and you will start bombing goons yourself :D So, how is that doomsday of yours coming along?
in their minds they are already doomed, we just have to confirm this with some more shipkills in reality Goons Doomsday Event - 28. July |
symolan
BamBam Inc.
18
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Posted - 2013.07.26 09:51:00 -
[853] - Quote
Lucas Kell wrote: If Harry is trying to inspire or break the mould he's going about it all wrong. He's in the wrong system, in the wrong fits and he's boasting false success. At most he will convince a bunch of naive players that he has some kind of plan, they will die and come on the forum crying.
No. What I take out of this thread is actually: who cares, have fun. I doubt very much that you'll see someone crying about loosing a frig or a dessie there. I'd assume that whoever is there said goodbye to ship and clone before going there.
I also don't think that anyone expects this to have a huge or any impact on Goons. It's a kind of statement nonetheless. You're the big Goons dominating Null... so what?
And would you say it's not a success if they bring a single carebear to leave his comfort zone? |
Lucas Kell
JSR1 AND GOLDEN GUARDIAN PRODUCTIONS SpaceMonkey's Alliance
232
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Posted - 2013.07.26 09:54:00 -
[854] - Quote
Harry Forever wrote:Joepopo wrote:Harry Forever wrote: but no you keep telling others what they can not do, just because you are the only one who can't do ****
people like you are extremely anyoing and not only a pain for this game but for the whole planet
OK Harry, but mind that you still can't divide by 0. dude you know that people where thinking stars are hanging down from the skys on ropes some hundred years ago, they where sure about that as well, think about it and open your mind Wait, are we just letting this one slide? A couple of hundred years ago anyone that though stars were hanging down from ropes would then have been declared as stupid or insane. Astronomy goes back a long long LONG time. Once the holidays are over, pay a bit more attention in school buddy.
At the end of the day, nothing you are doing here is new Harry. That's why we can say for certain that you current efforts will not succeed (if your current trend of failure hasn't proven that enough). Some people are even trying to help you succeed, but you refuse to listen. The Indecisive Noob - A new EVE Fan Blog for news and stuff. |
Lucas Kell
JSR1 AND GOLDEN GUARDIAN PRODUCTIONS SpaceMonkey's Alliance
232
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Posted - 2013.07.26 09:56:00 -
[855] - Quote
symolan wrote:Lucas Kell wrote: If Harry is trying to inspire or break the mould he's going about it all wrong. He's in the wrong system, in the wrong fits and he's boasting false success. At most he will convince a bunch of naive players that he has some kind of plan, they will die and come on the forum crying.
No. What I take out of this thread is actually: who cares, have fun. I doubt very much that you'll see someone crying about loosing a frig or a dessie there. I'd assume that whoever is there said goodbye to ship and clone before going there. I also don't think that anyone expects this to have a huge or any impact on Goons. It's a kind of statement nonetheless. You're the big Goons dominating Null... so what? And would you say it's not a success if they bring a single carebear to leave his comfort zone? The statement says nothing as it has no effect. All it does is keep a bunch of noobs out of highsec for a day while they fail at traversing through null. Goons aren't even going to be there. So how is it a statement to the goons? The Indecisive Noob - A new EVE Fan Blog for news and stuff. |
SKINE DMZ
YouView INC
64
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Posted - 2013.07.26 10:00:00 -
[856] - Quote
Symolian couldn't be more right, and mr lucas you still don't understand, it doesnt have to be a statement to the goons, it can be a statement to the highsec carebears or even to yourself, knowing that even the "biggest" alliance in game does not scare you, you are free to do how you wish in this game, and that makes it a very enjoyable experience. We don't care about losing ships, or killing them, it's fun to go out there and do dangerous play, thats it. You goons coming in here saying "ooh but it wont work and it has no effect and do you even know?" just means you guys are too silly to understand and are ruining your own game as don't you all want it to be a sandbox? |
symolan
BamBam Inc.
18
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Posted - 2013.07.26 10:14:00 -
[857] - Quote
Lucas Kell wrote: What that bubble camper meant is "you are not worth the time chasing you, bring friends or go away"
coz we're currently busy patrolling our bubbles which is a far superior use of our time. sounds reasonable.
also, somehow the idiom reminds me of much despised other MMO's where supposedly the teenage kids spend their time.
honestly: blopdrop or GTFO nub?
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Lucas Kell
JSR1 AND GOLDEN GUARDIAN PRODUCTIONS SpaceMonkey's Alliance
232
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Posted - 2013.07.26 10:22:00 -
[858] - Quote
SKINE DMZ wrote:Symolian couldn't be more right, and mr lucas you still don't understand, it doesnt have to be a statement to the goons, it can be a statement to the highsec carebears or even to yourself, knowing that even the "biggest" alliance in game does not scare you, you are free to do how you wish in this game, and that makes it a very enjoyable experience. We don't care about losing ships, or killing them, it's fun to go out there and do dangerous play, thats it. You goons coming in here saying "ooh but it wont work and it has no effect and do you even know?" just means you guys are too silly to understand and are ruining your own game as don't you all want it to be a sandbox? I do understand. You want to show everyone that you can do what you want. But you can hang around empty systems anywhere, so it makes absolutely no difference. It's not something new to hang around in VFK trying to harass goons, but you guys are choosing to do it at a time when even the goons won't be there. It's completely pointless. That and the fact that it's being orchestrated by an idiot and will probably result in you being killed by a random pipebomb before even getting to VFK destroys any ability for it to be a statement to anyone. I'm coming in here because I'm bored and don't have access to EVE during the day. Seeing you guys threatening empty space is pretty amusing.
I just want to pick out one point: "it's fun to go out there and do dangerous play" It's not dangerous is it though. The only danger is getting down here, then it's empty space. If you are really after danger, then fly down to Fountain, stage in an NPC station (there are a few) and launch micro attacks on people from there. You get to shoot a lot and may even get some good kills in as there's often frigates traveling around. That would be fun and dangerous. The Indecisive Noob - A new EVE Fan Blog for news and stuff. |
Lucas Kell
JSR1 AND GOLDEN GUARDIAN PRODUCTIONS SpaceMonkey's Alliance
232
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Posted - 2013.07.26 10:23:00 -
[859] - Quote
symolan wrote:Lucas Kell wrote: What that bubble camper meant is "you are not worth the time chasing you, bring friends or go away"
coz we're currently busy patrolling our bubbles which is a far superior use of our time. sounds reasonable. also, somehow the idiom reminds me of much despised other MMO's where supposedly the teenage kids spend their time. honestly: blopdrop or GTFO nub? Not saying I agree with them, gatecamps bore me. But i know what they mean. They don't want to waste time chasing a nubship around since it will not affect their killboards enough, They are waiting for logistics or a shiny ship.
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Harry Forever
SpaceJunkys
486
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Posted - 2013.07.26 10:38:00 -
[860] - Quote
Lucas Kell wrote:SKINE DMZ wrote:Symolian couldn't be more right, and mr lucas you still don't understand, it doesnt have to be a statement to the goons, it can be a statement to the highsec carebears or even to yourself, knowing that even the "biggest" alliance in game does not scare you, you are free to do how you wish in this game, and that makes it a very enjoyable experience. We don't care about losing ships, or killing them, it's fun to go out there and do dangerous play, thats it. You goons coming in here saying "ooh but it wont work and it has no effect and do you even know?" just means you guys are too silly to understand and are ruining your own game as don't you all want it to be a sandbox? I do understand. You want to show everyone that you can do what you want. But you can hang around empty systems anywhere, so it makes absolutely no difference. It's not something new to hang around in VFK trying to harass goons, but you guys are choosing to do it at a time when even the goons won't be there. It's completely pointless. That and the fact that it's being orchestrated by an idiot and will probably result in you being killed by a random pipebomb before even getting to VFK destroys any ability for it to be a statement to anyone. I'm coming in here because I'm bored and don't have access to EVE during the day. Seeing you guys threatening empty space is pretty amusing. I just want to pick out one point: "it's fun to go out there and do dangerous play" It's not dangerous is it though. The only danger is getting down here, then it's empty space. If you are really after danger, then fly down to Fountain, stage in an NPC station (there are a few) and launch micro attacks on people from there. You get to shoot a lot and may even get some good kills in as there's often frigates traveling around. That would be fun and dangerous.
the system is not empty, there are many haulers going back and forth as well as people going to ratting areas from VFK, not sure why you keep repeating it like a jumping cd... we want to be in VFK because its your main hub and we get some easy targets, we are partly new players to gain some experience, how pigheaded are you, that you don't get this easy explanation although we mentioned it over 100 times now? Goons Doomsday Event - 28. July |
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Lucas Kell
JSR1 AND GOLDEN GUARDIAN PRODUCTIONS SpaceMonkey's Alliance
232
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Posted - 2013.07.26 10:49:00 -
[861] - Quote
Harry Forever wrote:Lucas Kell wrote:SKINE DMZ wrote:Symolian couldn't be more right, and mr lucas you still don't understand, it doesnt have to be a statement to the goons, it can be a statement to the highsec carebears or even to yourself, knowing that even the "biggest" alliance in game does not scare you, you are free to do how you wish in this game, and that makes it a very enjoyable experience. We don't care about losing ships, or killing them, it's fun to go out there and do dangerous play, thats it. You goons coming in here saying "ooh but it wont work and it has no effect and do you even know?" just means you guys are too silly to understand and are ruining your own game as don't you all want it to be a sandbox? I do understand. You want to show everyone that you can do what you want. But you can hang around empty systems anywhere, so it makes absolutely no difference. It's not something new to hang around in VFK trying to harass goons, but you guys are choosing to do it at a time when even the goons won't be there. It's completely pointless. That and the fact that it's being orchestrated by an idiot and will probably result in you being killed by a random pipebomb before even getting to VFK destroys any ability for it to be a statement to anyone. I'm coming in here because I'm bored and don't have access to EVE during the day. Seeing you guys threatening empty space is pretty amusing. I just want to pick out one point: "it's fun to go out there and do dangerous play" It's not dangerous is it though. The only danger is getting down here, then it's empty space. If you are really after danger, then fly down to Fountain, stage in an NPC station (there are a few) and launch micro attacks on people from there. You get to shoot a lot and may even get some good kills in as there's often frigates traveling around. That would be fun and dangerous. the system is not empty, there are many haulers going back and forth as well as people going to ratting areas from VFK, not sure why you keep repeating it like a jumping cd... we want to be in VFK because its your main hub and we get some easy targets, we are partly new players to gain some experience, how pigheaded are you, that you don't get this easy explanation although we mentioned it over 100 times now? Bullshit! I've seen your kills and I've even been there watching the system. You've killed 1 PI hauler, the other 2 were both cynos. the only thing jumping in and out are capitals. They jump in, pick up the **** they need, then jump back down to fountain. You can't tell us where our main hub is lol. Yes VFK is considered the center of goons. But at the moment EVERYONE IS DEPLOYED. I've mentioned that a considerable number of times. this means EVERYONE IS IN FOUNTAIN. I've mentioned that too. All your killboards show are cyno pilot and the occasional shitfit ship. I get what you are trying to do, but again, it's pointless.
Thank **** it's nearly the 28th so all these noobs will realise it was all a bunch of BS and a way for you to get donations for "prizes" which probably won't be given out, then we can stop listening to you incessant childlike whining.
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Alpheias
Euphoria Released Verge of Collapse
2270
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Posted - 2013.07.26 10:52:00 -
[862] - Quote
Harry Forever wrote:Alpheias wrote:
So, how is that doomsday of yours coming along?
in their minds they are already doomed, we just have to confirm this with some more shipkills in reality
I don't think anyone in Goons, think that they are anywhere near being doomed, least of all by someone like you. Allow me to be frank. You will not like me. You will not like me now, and you will not like men++ a good deal less as we go on. |
Andski
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
8458
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Posted - 2013.07.26 10:59:00 -
[863] - Quote
"you're doing it the wrong way if you think what you're doing will have any sort of impact"
"no you're doomed "
"we're really not"
"see guys they're clearly scared otherwise they wouldn't be posting in this thread "
"but seriously try doing these things instead"
"doesn't work on me goonie "
"christ whatever i'm done with you" Twitter: @EVEAndski
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Harry Forever
SpaceJunkys
486
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Posted - 2013.07.26 11:00:00 -
[864] - Quote
Lucas Kell wrote:Harry Forever wrote:Lucas Kell wrote:SKINE DMZ wrote:Symolian couldn't be more right, and mr lucas you still don't understand, it doesnt have to be a statement to the goons, it can be a statement to the highsec carebears or even to yourself, knowing that even the "biggest" alliance in game does not scare you, you are free to do how you wish in this game, and that makes it a very enjoyable experience. We don't care about losing ships, or killing them, it's fun to go out there and do dangerous play, thats it. You goons coming in here saying "ooh but it wont work and it has no effect and do you even know?" just means you guys are too silly to understand and are ruining your own game as don't you all want it to be a sandbox? I do understand. You want to show everyone that you can do what you want. But you can hang around empty systems anywhere, so it makes absolutely no difference. It's not something new to hang around in VFK trying to harass goons, but you guys are choosing to do it at a time when even the goons won't be there. It's completely pointless. That and the fact that it's being orchestrated by an idiot and will probably result in you being killed by a random pipebomb before even getting to VFK destroys any ability for it to be a statement to anyone. I'm coming in here because I'm bored and don't have access to EVE during the day. Seeing you guys threatening empty space is pretty amusing. I just want to pick out one point: "it's fun to go out there and do dangerous play" It's not dangerous is it though. The only danger is getting down here, then it's empty space. If you are really after danger, then fly down to Fountain, stage in an NPC station (there are a few) and launch micro attacks on people from there. You get to shoot a lot and may even get some good kills in as there's often frigates traveling around. That would be fun and dangerous. the system is not empty, there are many haulers going back and forth as well as people going to ratting areas from VFK, not sure why you keep repeating it like a jumping cd... we want to be in VFK because its your main hub and we get some easy targets, we are partly new players to gain some experience, how pigheaded are you, that you don't get this easy explanation although we mentioned it over 100 times now? Bullshit! I've seen your kills and I've even been there watching the system. You've killed 1 PI hauler, the other 2 were both cynos. the only thing jumping in and out are capitals. They jump in, pick up the **** they need, then jump back down to fountain. You can't tell us where our main hub is lol. Yes VFK is considered the center of goons. But at the moment EVERYONE IS DEPLOYED. I've mentioned that a considerable number of times. this means EVERYONE IS IN FOUNTAIN. I've mentioned that too. All your killboards show are cyno pilot and the occasional shitfit ship. I get what you are trying to do, but again, it's pointless. Thank **** it's nearly the 28th so all these noobs will realise it was all a bunch of BS and a way for you to get donations for "prizes" which probably won't be given out, then we can stop listening to you incessant childlike whining.
you fear the truth kid, our russian friends shot down an obelisk in VFK just days ago, they shot down your haulers every day, some tengu and other ratting ships, I alone have at least 4 haulers on my killboard, and more will follow... don't be scared I will make it quick it won't hurt... just sit tight and hold hands out there with your goonfriends, you are to weak to fight them we all know that... but we are different Goons Doomsday Event - 28. July |
SKINE DMZ
YouView INC
64
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Posted - 2013.07.26 11:00:00 -
[865] - Quote
Lucas Kell wrote:SKINE DMZ wrote:Symolian couldn't be more right, and mr lucas you still don't understand, it doesnt have to be a statement to the goons, it can be a statement to the highsec carebears or even to yourself, knowing that even the "biggest" alliance in game does not scare you, you are free to do how you wish in this game, and that makes it a very enjoyable experience. We don't care about losing ships, or killing them, it's fun to go out there and do dangerous play, thats it. You goons coming in here saying "ooh but it wont work and it has no effect and do you even know?" just means you guys are too silly to understand and are ruining your own game as don't you all want it to be a sandbox? I do understand. You want to show everyone that you can do what you want. You don't, I am not trying to show anything to anyone, I am simply having fun and proofing myself you can do anything in this game no matter what people tell you. I can't speak for the other carebears involved in this (and I actually think many of them take this too seriously), but it is simply just a bit of fun. |
Alpheias
Euphoria Released Verge of Collapse
2270
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Posted - 2013.07.26 11:02:00 -
[866] - Quote
Andski wrote:"you're doing it the wrong way if you think what you're doing will have any sort of impact" "no you're doomed " "we're really not" "see guys they're clearly scared otherwise they wouldn't be posting in this thread " "but seriously try doing these things instead" "doesn't work on me goonie " "christ whatever i'm done with you"
Getting to the point of this?
Allow me to be frank. You will not like me. You will not like me now, and you will not like men++ a good deal less as we go on. |
Harry Forever
SpaceJunkys
486
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Posted - 2013.07.26 11:06:00 -
[867] - Quote
its so funny, all those alliances out there putting their nose into the goons ass, holding hands with them and stuff, all too scared to fight, and those guys speak the loudest here, telling us how badass they are, oh boy...
that flowerpower out there needs to end... Goons Doomsday Event - 28. July |
Andski
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
8458
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Posted - 2013.07.26 11:08:00 -
[868] - Quote
Harry Forever wrote:you fear the truth kid, our russian friends shot down an obelisk in VFK just days ago, they shot down your haulers every day, some tengu and other ratting ships, I alone have at least 4 haulers on my killboard, and more will follow... don't be scared I will make it quick it won't hurt... just sit tight and hold hands out there with your goonfriends, you are to weak to fight them we all know that... but we are different
wow you've killed four haulers in the span of like 2 months
congratulations Twitter: @EVEAndski
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symolan
BamBam Inc.
18
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Posted - 2013.07.26 11:09:00 -
[869] - Quote
Lucas Kell wrote: The statement says nothing as it has no effect. All it does is keep a bunch of noobs out of highsec for a day while they fail at traversing through null. Goons aren't even going to be there. So how is it a statement to the goons?
Well as I said, I don't expect it to have any impact on much, but...
I've started Eve some years ago for a few weeks and came back few weeks back... after I've seen this thread, I noticed that I'm in grave danger to become too carebearish (the ISK-fixation in this game is seductive (? not native speaker).
So I let myself be inspired a little, fitted a frig and went through 0. It's not as hard traversing thru that space as I expected... and as you seem to think according to the quote. Yeah there were some bubbles and camps but as CCP gave us cloaking that didn't lead to a loss.
I won't Corp out of personal reasons (wifes can be special...)
but I'm currently trying to find a way to find a use of 0, even if it's solo there must be a way to use that whole space (what waste otherwise, also I feel entitled to be there as long as I'm not sent back).
Regarding the statement to the goons. Statements do not have to have a direct impact. Sometimes it's enought it was made (Galilei?).
And I guess there are more than a single statement the guys want to make here. And most I guess not directed to the goons. But directed at the carebears.
The short time I'm back and reading the forums they gave me the impression that in 0 there's only death for a solo player. Via the ISK-fixation I would assume that many people (solo's, of which there seem to be a surprising lot here, also as I at least find it harder here to socialize than in other MMO's; you don't meet people too often by surprise or in a different way and when there's always the paranoia...) will have been deterred of heading out there.
I also read how Null wants players to leave HS and come there... but I get the impression that holds only true if they join corp X or Y.
Why is that? (I do have a suspicion... imagine half the solo's roaming thru null.... Nullbears wouldn't dare to undock for weeks... again, not confirmed, just my impression after processing available info)
I at least am planning to be an annoying neut that does a touristic tour through all of Eve.
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Harry Forever
SpaceJunkys
486
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Posted - 2013.07.26 11:13:00 -
[870] - Quote
Andski wrote:Harry Forever wrote:you fear the truth kid, our russian friends shot down an obelisk in VFK just days ago, they shot down your haulers every day, some tengu and other ratting ships, I alone have at least 4 haulers on my killboard, and more will follow... don't be scared I will make it quick it won't hurt... just sit tight and hold hands out there with your goonfriends, you are to weak to fight them we all know that... but we are different wow you've killed four haulers in the span of like 2 months congratulations
thanks for your attention... 51 ships i killed, 300 million in gooncapital gone bust, just by me one 3month old player, within a month yes, just wait and see what will become out of this within a year with more players to join... Goons Doomsday Event - 28. July |
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SKINE DMZ
YouView INC
64
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Posted - 2013.07.26 11:16:00 -
[871] - Quote
^ you are inviting them to think of you as an idiot when you say you have spent a month killing 300m worth of gear, at least say you are doing it for your own fun let's be honest |
Harry Forever
SpaceJunkys
486
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Posted - 2013.07.26 11:19:00 -
[872] - Quote
SKINE DMZ wrote:^ you are inviting them to think of you as an idiot when you say you have spent a month killing 300m worth of gear, at least say you are doing it for your own fun let's be honest
SKINE you are the only idiot now, I'm in the game for 3 month, don't you get the difference? I'm completely happy with the impact i do, if all new players did the same, they would have bilions of damage, speak for yourself but not for me, thanks Goons Doomsday Event - 28. July |
Andski
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
8458
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Posted - 2013.07.26 11:25:00 -
[873] - Quote
Harry Forever wrote:thanks for your attention... 51 ships i killed, 300 million in gooncapital gone bust, just by me one 3month old player, just wait and see what will become out of this within a year with more players to join...
51 kills with an average value of 6m is nothing and 300 million isk of damage in an entire month is absolutely nothing, even for a 3 month old player
if you killed maybe 5b in a month that'd be impressive, but you'd have to kill something other than cynos Twitter: @EVEAndski
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Moneta Curran
Lunar Industries Ltd
121
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Posted - 2013.07.26 11:37:00 -
[874] - Quote
I'd like to point out that the killboards set the total amount of isk destroyed at 0.15B this month for young mister Harry.
The 300M quoted is a slightly inflated grand total balance (0.28B) achieved over the course of two (2) months.
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Harry Forever
SpaceJunkys
486
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Posted - 2013.07.26 11:38:00 -
[875] - Quote
Andski wrote:Harry Forever wrote:thanks for your attention... 51 ships i killed, 300 million in gooncapital gone bust, just by me one 3month old player, just wait and see what will become out of this within a year with more players to join... 51 kills with an average value of 6m is nothing and 300 million isk of damage in an entire month is absolutely nothing, even for a 3 month old player if you killed maybe 5b in a month that'd be impressive, but you'd have to kill something other than cynos
why do you all care to tell me then? we all know that this is your game, you keep telling people they can not have influence to assure they don't even try, what will you do about it if we finally have hundreds of players cloaked up in VFK? some weeks ago you did tell me I would not bring a single carebear to VFK, on peak times we have been around 10 already including some russian guys who joined us for the fun...
relax dude, it takes time but it will happen... you got a problem and it won't go away, this movement will spread like cancer... you invited the pest to your hub, hop in with your fleet, we jump to our safespots you go we will snap some haulers, cool huh? :D Goons Doomsday Event - 28. July |
SKINE DMZ
YouView INC
64
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Posted - 2013.07.26 11:39:00 -
[876] - Quote
Harry Forever wrote:SKINE DMZ wrote:^ you are inviting them to think of you as an idiot when you say you have spent a month killing 300m worth of gear, at least say you are doing it for your own fun let's be honest SKINE you are the only idiot now, I'm in the game for 3 month, don't you get the difference? I'm completely happy with the impact i do, if all new players did the same, they would have bilions of damage, speak for yourself but not for me, thanks you gotta learn to keep your cool bro |
Harry Forever
SpaceJunkys
486
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Posted - 2013.07.26 11:41:00 -
[877] - Quote
Moneta Curran wrote: I'd like to point out that the killboards set the total amount of isk destroyed at 0.15B this month for young mister Harry.
The 300M quoted is a slightly inflated grand total balance (0.28B) achieved over the course of two (2) months.
I did not mention 300m was done for 1 month, please read my post again Goons Doomsday Event - 28. July |
Harry Forever
SpaceJunkys
486
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Posted - 2013.07.26 11:42:00 -
[878] - Quote
SKINE DMZ wrote:Harry Forever wrote:SKINE DMZ wrote:^ you are inviting them to think of you as an idiot when you say you have spent a month killing 300m worth of gear, at least say you are doing it for your own fun let's be honest SKINE you are the only idiot now, I'm in the game for 3 month, don't you get the difference? I'm completely happy with the impact i do, if all new players did the same, they would have bilions of damage, speak for yourself but not for me, thanks you gotta learn to keep your cool bro
better be cool yourself and use the bomber I gave you to shoot some stuff, did not see you around for some time... Goons Doomsday Event - 28. July |
William Walker
House Aratus Fatal Ascension
146
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Posted - 2013.07.26 11:43:00 -
[879] - Quote
Harry Forever wrote:on peak times we have been around 10 already including some russian guys who joined us for the fun...
relax dude, it takes time but it will happen... you got a problem and it won't go away, this movement will spread like cancer... you invited the pest to your hub, hop in with your fleet, we jump to our safespots you go we will snap some haulers, cool huh? :D
You tell him Harry! Row row, fight the powa! pâ+(*GîÆGêçGîÆ*)n+ë pü+(pé£GêçpÇü-¦)pü+ (GùòGÇ+GùòG£+) |
Moneta Curran
Lunar Industries Ltd
121
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Posted - 2013.07.26 11:45:00 -
[880] - Quote
It's also noteworthy that of out the 0.15B isk destroyed by Harry this month, the average worth of a single kill was 3.26M.
I would imagine that a large part of the value of these kills is derived from the cost of the single cynosural field generator typically fitted, the supply of which must be running dangerously low due to his fearsome vendetta. |
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SKINE DMZ
YouView INC
64
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Posted - 2013.07.26 11:45:00 -
[881] - Quote
being cool and keeping your cool are separate things, I know you are smarter than this forum persona you are putting on, anyway I would love to but I haven't been able to login for the past 2 weeks due to rl commitments, planning on playing some tonight actually |
Mayhaw Morgan
State War Academy Caldari State
97
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Posted - 2013.07.26 11:49:00 -
[882] - Quote
Andski wrote:51 kills with an average value of 6m is nothing and 300 million isk of damage in an entire month is absolutely nothing, even for a 3 month old player
if you killed maybe 5b in a month that'd be impressive, but you'd have to kill something other than cynos
Comparing him to one of your lemmings is hardly fair. He doesn't have 500 Megathrons backing him up, and he isn't F1'ing tens-of-millions of HP structures. He can't dock in your space. He can't use your jump bridge network. And he is being tracked by your intel channels.
That is not at all the same thing as some tackle-monkey getting on a 50 billion ISK killmail because he warp disrupted a super. |
Joepopo
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
104
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Posted - 2013.07.26 11:52:00 -
[883] - Quote
Mayhaw Morgan wrote: That is not at all the same thing as some tackle-monkey getting on a 50 billion ISK killmail because he warp disrupted a super.
In terms of damage and pain caused to goonswarm, killing cyno is not the same thing as tackling supers, indeed. |
Moneta Curran
Lunar Industries Ltd
121
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Posted - 2013.07.26 11:54:00 -
[884] - Quote
Mayhaw Morgan wrote:
Comparing him to one of your lemmings is hardly fair. He doesn't have 500 Megathrons backing him up, and he isn't F1'ing tens-of-millions of HP structures. He can't dock in your space. He can't use your jump bridge network. And he is being tracked by your intel channels.
That is not at all the same thing as some tackle-monkey getting on a 50 billion ISK killmail because he warp disrupted a super.
This is true and gives pause to think. We must applaud him for his tenacity, however misguided and ultimately pointless.
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Harry Forever
SpaceJunkys
486
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Posted - 2013.07.26 11:54:00 -
[885] - Quote
Moneta Curran wrote:Harry Forever wrote:I did not mention 300m was done for 1 month, please read my post again I know, this is just meant to keep our discourse clean. It's also noteworthy that of out the 0.15B isk destroyed by Harry this month, the average worth of a single kill was 3.26M. I would imagine that a large part of the value of these kills is derived from the cost of the single cynosural field generator typically fitted, the supply of which must be running dangerously low due to his fearsome vendetta.
thats actually exactly what happend, but goons are smart people they started to make cynos with stealth bomber and haulers as you can see from my killboard as well, they even used procurers and drones started to attack me, also their cynos are guarded by up to 5 ships sometims, interdictor bubbles are not seldome used when shooting down one of those things... keeping them busy is all I want you know Goons Doomsday Event - 28. July |
Harry Forever
SpaceJunkys
486
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Posted - 2013.07.26 11:55:00 -
[886] - Quote
SKINE DMZ wrote:being cool and keeping your cool are separate things, I know you are smarter than this forum persona you are putting on, anyway I would love to but I haven't been able to login for the past 2 weeks due to rl commitments, planning on playing some tonight actually
good to hear SKINE hope you are back in action soon! Goons Doomsday Event - 28. July |
Harry Forever
SpaceJunkys
486
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Posted - 2013.07.26 11:56:00 -
[887] - Quote
Moneta Curran wrote:Mayhaw Morgan wrote:
Comparing him to one of your lemmings is hardly fair. He doesn't have 500 Megathrons backing him up, and he isn't F1'ing tens-of-millions of HP structures. He can't dock in your space. He can't use your jump bridge network. And he is being tracked by your intel channels.
That is not at all the same thing as some tackle-monkey getting on a 50 billion ISK killmail because he warp disrupted a super.
This is true and gives pause to think. We must applaud him for his tenacity, however misguided and ultimately pointless.
pointless just because you can not see the big picture, and the amount of new players this will start to mobilize over time
you guys just see a cynokill, what has become out of it is an event with over a billion prizes, up to 10 bomber pilots in VFK and many more people who start to think if they want to do the same... your in the box thinking holds you back from seeing the great vision behind it Goons Doomsday Event - 28. July |
Moneta Curran
Lunar Industries Ltd
121
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Posted - 2013.07.26 11:59:00 -
[888] - Quote
Harry Forever wrote:thats actually exactly what happend, but goons are smart people they started to make cynos with stealth bomber and haulers as you can see from my killboard as well, they even used procurers and drones started to attack me, also their cynos are guarded by up to 5 ships sometims, interdictor bubbles are not seldome used when shooting down one of those things... keeping them busy is all I want you know
That's cool. Even if you may not achieve what you have set out to accomplish, I am sure you will walk away from this with a lot of valuable PVP experience.
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Harry Forever
SpaceJunkys
486
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Posted - 2013.07.26 12:04:00 -
[889] - Quote
Moneta Curran wrote:Harry Forever wrote:thats actually exactly what happend, but goons are smart people they started to make cynos with stealth bomber and haulers as you can see from my killboard as well, they even used procurers and drones started to attack me, also their cynos are guarded by up to 5 ships sometims, interdictor bubbles are not seldome used when shooting down one of those things... keeping them busy is all I want you know That's cool. Even if you may not achieve what you have set out to accomplish, I am sure you will walk away from this with a lot of valuable PVP experience.
your disbelieve is boring Goons Doomsday Event - 28. July |
Moneta Curran
Lunar Industries Ltd
121
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Posted - 2013.07.26 12:12:00 -
[890] - Quote
Harry Forever wrote:your disbelieve is boring
I agree. Still, I cannot picture a little butterfly take on a swarm of bees and win.
By all means, however, you are very welcome to try and keep us entertained
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Rhivre
TarNec Invisible Exchequer
347
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Posted - 2013.07.26 12:19:00 -
[891] - Quote
Harry Forever wrote: pointless just because you can not see the big picture, and the amount of new players this will start to mobilize over time
you guys just see a cynokill, what has become out of it is an event with over a billion prizes, up to 10 bomber pilots in VFK and many more people who start to think if they want to do the same... your in the box thinking holds you back from seeing the great vision behind it
A whole ten bomber pilots and over a whole billion in prizes?
The carebears truly are rallying to your cause in great numbers |
Harry Forever
SpaceJunkys
486
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Posted - 2013.07.26 12:24:00 -
[892] - Quote
Rhivre wrote:Harry Forever wrote: pointless just because you can not see the big picture, and the amount of new players this will start to mobilize over time
you guys just see a cynokill, what has become out of it is an event with over a billion prizes, up to 10 bomber pilots in VFK and many more people who start to think if they want to do the same... your in the box thinking holds you back from seeing the great vision behind it
A whole ten bomber pilots and over a whole billion in prizes? The carebears truly are rallying to your cause in great numbers
I'm fine with the progress, don't you worry, but its always easy to talk bad about somebody elses achievment, just to hide the fact that you are not able to achieve anything on your own... you are all so lame, ridiculous Goons Doomsday Event - 28. July |
Lucas Kell
JSR1 AND GOLDEN GUARDIAN PRODUCTIONS SpaceMonkey's Alliance
233
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Posted - 2013.07.26 12:27:00 -
[893] - Quote
Harry Forever wrote:you fear the truth kid, our russian friends shot down an obelisk in VFK just days ago, they shot down your haulers every day, some tengu and other ratting ships, I alone have at least 4 haulers on my killboard, and more will follow... don't be scared I will make it quick it won't hurt... just sit tight and hold hands out there with your goonfriends, you are to weak to fight them we all know that... but we are different It's 3 haulers, 2 of which are cyno pilots. *slow clap*
And where's this obelisk kill? I don't see one on eve-kill for the whole of the past week. Not disputing it happened, but if it did, I doubt it was a bunch of your nubmates doing it. VFK is camped by actual PvP pilots all the time. You can't go claiming their kills as yours.
Rhivre wrote:A whole ten bomber pilots and over a whole billion in prizes?
The carebears truly are rallying to your cause in great numbers He's got a bunch of donations from the high sec people wanting to see this go somewhere. I almost guarantee he will not pass out at least some of those "prizes".
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Mayhaw Morgan
State War Academy Caldari State
98
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Posted - 2013.07.26 12:29:00 -
[894] - Quote
Moneta Curran wrote:This is true and gives pause to think. We must applaud him for his tenacity, however misguided and ultimately pointless. As evidenced from this thread a fair bit of self-delusion seems to fuel this though.
Well, I think he's just playing EVE. He's single-handedly taking on an evil empire. I concede that he isn't making much headway, but I would stipulate that that is because the game is rigged in favor of the evil empire, and against solo operators like him.
You may judge his efforts to be futile and pointless, but ultimately, anything anyone does in game (or out-of-game) is futile and pointless. Some people, like many "goons", play this game by consuming someone elses narrative, but Harry Forever is playing the game by creating his own narrative. And, that is not "space heroic". That is just heroic. |
Lucas Kell
JSR1 AND GOLDEN GUARDIAN PRODUCTIONS SpaceMonkey's Alliance
233
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Posted - 2013.07.26 12:32:00 -
[895] - Quote
Found the Obelisk: http://eve-kill.net/?a=kill_detail&kll_id=18678996
So these guys: http://eve-kill.net/?a=corp_detail&crp_id=135159
You are claiming their kills as yours yeah? That how this works? Even though they are known PvP players and have over a year of pretty decent killboards, you are the reason they are so effective?
Get over yourself kid. You are nothing, a nobody. You hide behind everyone else screaming "look what i done!" when they get a kill, only managing to get undefended cyno blaps as your solo kills. Pathetic, KYS. The Indecisive Noob - A new EVE Fan Blog for news and stuff. |
Harry Forever
SpaceJunkys
486
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Posted - 2013.07.26 12:35:00 -
[896] - Quote
Lucas Kell wrote:
Get over yourself kid. You are nothing, a nobody. You hide behind everyone else screaming "look what i done!" when they get a kill, only managing to get undefended cyno blaps as your solo kills. Pathetic, KYS.
hey dude, then just stop talking about me, tell us more about you, you seem to be a very interesting character everybody wants to know more about Goons Doomsday Event - 28. July |
Alt Elongur
We Don't Like Bullies
20
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Posted - 2013.07.26 12:36:00 -
[897] - Quote
Moneta Curran wrote:Harry Forever wrote:your disbelieve is boring I agree. Still, I cannot picture a little butterfly take on a swarm of bees and win. By all means, however, you are very welcome to try and keep us entertained
The butterfly doesn't have to win. It just has to kick up the dust.
It has. This alt will self destruct in 10 seconds. |
Joepopo
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
104
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Posted - 2013.07.26 12:36:00 -
[898] - Quote
I killed that obelisk too. |
Lucas Kell
JSR1 AND GOLDEN GUARDIAN PRODUCTIONS SpaceMonkey's Alliance
233
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Posted - 2013.07.26 12:36:00 -
[899] - Quote
Mayhaw Morgan wrote:Moneta Curran wrote:This is true and gives pause to think. We must applaud him for his tenacity, however misguided and ultimately pointless. As evidenced from this thread a fair bit of self-delusion seems to fuel this though. Well, I think he's just playing EVE. He's single-handedly taking on an evil empire. I concede that he isn't making much headway, but I would stipulate that that is because the game is rigged in favor of the evil empire, and against solo operators like him. You may judge his efforts to be futile and pointless, but ultimately, anything anyone does in game (or out-of-game) is futile and pointless. Some people, like many "goons", play this game by consuming someone elses narrative, but Harry Forever is playing the game by creating his own narrative. And, that is not "space heroic". That is just heroic. He's not though is he? He's flying to empty space, hiding behind other pilots and chanting about how he's "sticking it" to the goons. Guarantee he's a kid and he's on his school holidays and is bored. If he was heroic, he'd look to take some real risks and really try to make a difference. I'd be searching the region for ratters and miners, really causing some financial damage at the very least. The Indecisive Noob - A new EVE Fan Blog for news and stuff. |
Lucas Kell
JSR1 AND GOLDEN GUARDIAN PRODUCTIONS SpaceMonkey's Alliance
233
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Posted - 2013.07.26 12:40:00 -
[900] - Quote
Harry Forever wrote:Lucas Kell wrote:
Get over yourself kid. You are nothing, a nobody. You hide behind everyone else screaming "look what i done!" when they get a kill, only managing to get undefended cyno blaps as your solo kills. Pathetic, KYS.
hey dude, then just stop talking about me, tell us more about you, you seem to be a very interesting character everybody wants to know more about HA, I love how now you make no mention of the obelisk even though that was the crux of the post.
So Hi, I'm Lucas, part of the CFC, currently engaged in a war. I also run a high sec industry chain and have recently shut down operations in a C2 (due to the additional time required for the Fountain war). Hello everyone!
Wait, not interesting enough. Sometimes I float about in empty space claiming to be killing everyone that passes. Phew. Done it. The Indecisive Noob - A new EVE Fan Blog for news and stuff. |
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Harry Forever
SpaceJunkys
487
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Posted - 2013.07.26 12:45:00 -
[901] - Quote
Its really funny, all want to be super smart about this, but they don't have a clue how difficult it is to push and get people into this, they laugh about 10 people and a billion prizes, and don't see the heart behind it, to even get there... I'm really ashamed of those who talk badly against this, they would never have the balls to try what we do...
they just join the big alliance do what they get told and feel strong about beeing on a killmail with hundred other guys, most of the time shooting structures only... I would recommend looking in the mirror and judging yourself before judging me... Goons Doomsday Event - 28. July |
SKINE DMZ
YouView INC
65
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Posted - 2013.07.26 12:51:00 -
[902] - Quote
Mayhaw Morgan wrote:Moneta Curran wrote:This is true and gives pause to think. We must applaud him for his tenacity, however misguided and ultimately pointless. As evidenced from this thread a fair bit of self-delusion seems to fuel this though. Well, I think he's just playing EVE. He's single-handedly taking on an evil empire. I concede that he isn't making much headway, but I would stipulate that that is because the game is rigged in favor of the evil empire, and against solo operators like him. You may judge his efforts to be futile and pointless, but ultimately, anything anyone does in game (or out-of-game) is futile and pointless. Some people, like many "goons", play this game by consuming someone elses narrative, but Harry Forever is playing the game by creating his own narrative. And, that is not "space heroic". That is just heroic. nicely said, and not sure how he is hiding behind other pilots, yes they may be pvp pilots but they have been supporting harry and space junkeys from very early on, flying with them.
i was in the channel from early on when there was just harry and someone else in the channel, I am not active at all but trust me you can see the cause is growing, organically.
i also love how the players of this game claim this game is such a sandbox but as soon as a lone space junkey sets up a goal and a cause all there is, is negativity from the nullbears. its your way or no way.
Mr seal JoePopo already confirmed to me by evemail saying "It is much more fun to be in a bigger fleet and more powerful than your opponent"
wrong it is much more fun to be successfully enjoying the game taunting the "biggest" alliance in game as a lone little captain in space |
Moneta Curran
Lunar Industries Ltd
121
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Posted - 2013.07.26 12:51:00 -
[903] - Quote
Mayhaw Morgan wrote:That is just heroic.
Tragically heroic. I am eagerly awaiting the 28th when he will undoubtedly lead the vanguard in a massive onslaught of high sec peons. I am sure he will die well.
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Lucas Kell
JSR1 AND GOLDEN GUARDIAN PRODUCTIONS SpaceMonkey's Alliance
233
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Posted - 2013.07.26 12:53:00 -
[904] - Quote
Harry Forever wrote:Its really funny, all want to be super smart about this, but they don't have a clue how difficult it is to push and get people into this, they laugh about 10 people and a billion prizes, and don't see the heart behind it, to even get there... I'm really ashamed of those who talk badly against this, they would never have the balls to try what we do...
they just join the big alliance do what they get told and feel strong about beeing on a killmail with hundred other guys, most of the time shooting structures only... I would recommend looking in the mirror and judging yourself before judging me... Uhh no. Most of us are actually trying to help you. To tell you how you could go about being more efficient. Instead of even just saying "no thanks, I like it this way" you feel the need to throw around how many cyno kills you've got like anyone gives a damn and go off on some tirade about how nobody understands you. You're like a 14 year old girl.
As for the balls, I sit around in VFK all the time. The difference is I actually go fight people too all over null, I don't just sit cloaked up. And in fact one of my corp mates was in VFK yesterday I believe, and you were refusing to fight him apparently. He said you were in a destroyer and refused to fight him in a 1 on 1 unless he came out in a frigate. Yeah, super courageous there. The Indecisive Noob - A new EVE Fan Blog for news and stuff. |
Lucas Kell
JSR1 AND GOLDEN GUARDIAN PRODUCTIONS SpaceMonkey's Alliance
233
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Posted - 2013.07.26 12:57:00 -
[905] - Quote
SKINE DMZ wrote:nicely said, and not sure how he is hiding behind other pilots, yes they may be pvp pilots but they have been supporting harry and space junkeys from very early on, flying with them. i was in the channel from early on when there was just harry and someone else in the channel, I am not active at all but trust me you can see the cause is growing, organically. i also love how the players of this game claim this game is such a sandbox but as soon as a lone space junkey sets up a goal and a cause all there is, is negativity from the nullbears. its your way or no way. Mr seal JoePopo already confirmed to me by evemail saying "It is much more fun to be in a bigger fleet and more powerful than your opponent" wrong it is much more fun to be successfully enjoying the game taunting the "biggest" alliance in game as a lone little captain in space He's hiding behind them because he's claiming their victories as part of his. He's claiming the obelisk kills as "his group", yet the PvP Group http://eve-kill.net/?a=corp_detail&crp_id=135159 are simply doing what they do every day. If he wasn't there, it would be no different. So coming on here saying "look at what we done did" is just making him look like an idiot tagging along sucking up the shards of glory they leave behind. The Indecisive Noob - A new EVE Fan Blog for news and stuff. |
Alt Elongur
We Don't Like Bullies
21
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Posted - 2013.07.26 12:58:00 -
[906] - Quote
"You're not having the fun you think you are. Here, let us explain to you how to enjoy yourself" - The Goons This alt will self destruct in 10 seconds. |
SKINE DMZ
YouView INC
66
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Posted - 2013.07.26 13:04:00 -
[907] - Quote
Alt Elongur wrote:"You're not having the fun you think you are. Here, let us explain to you how to enjoy yourself" - The Goons sig worthy
http://eve-kill.net/?a=kill_detail&kll_id=18891940 hey lucas, these people fly with harry, "but they are not harry and would of done anyway!" get over it mate your arguements are becoming weaker and weaker |
Lucas Kell
JSR1 AND GOLDEN GUARDIAN PRODUCTIONS SpaceMonkey's Alliance
233
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Posted - 2013.07.26 13:12:00 -
[908] - Quote
SKINE DMZ wrote:Alt Elongur wrote:"You're not having the fun you think you are. Here, let us explain to you how to enjoy yourself" - The Goons sig worthy http://eve-kill.net/?a=kill_detail&kll_id=18891940hey lucas, these people fly with harry, "but they are not harry and would of done anyway!" get over it mate your arguements are becoming weaker and weaker Bullshit lol Explain to me exactly how Harry killed the obelisk he is claiming then? Just because he happens to be in the same system as them and they let him fleet up means nothing. Look at their KBs. The are null pirates. They hang around anyway killing people and have nothing to do with bringing high sec carebears down to null.
We are not telling him how to have fun. But if he's going to come on the forums, talking some shite about how he's teaching the goons a lesson, and he thinks he's not going to get reamed out for it, he's got another thing coming.
On a side not, i take it these guys will be getting all of the prizes from Harry's list then? Since they will undoubtedly be doing most of the killing. Way to support the high sec carebears! The Indecisive Noob - A new EVE Fan Blog for news and stuff. |
SKINE DMZ
YouView INC
66
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Posted - 2013.07.26 13:17:00 -
[909] - Quote
I don't know if harry claimed that he killed that obelisk, or if he said that part of his cause killed an obelisk, to be quite honest with you I am not going to waste my time looking for that.
you seem to have a slight issue with reading, these people already support harry and space junkeys from very early on and actually fleet up through the channel, not local.
stop being so silly, harry got sponsored and set up an event, most of us don't even have time to think about details about who is going to get prizes, we aren't all organised like an hierachy, we don't all take this game as seriously as you do.
how old are you?? "We are not telling him how to have fun. But if he's going to come on the forums, talking some shite about how he's teaching the goons a lesson, and he thinks he's not going to get reamed out for it, he's got another thing coming."
this is a game haha you sound a million time more childish and silly than harry, I hope you realise this.
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Alt Elongur
We Don't Like Bullies
21
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Posted - 2013.07.26 13:18:00 -
[910] - Quote
As one of the major prize sponsors, my employer would just like to say: "Pfffffffffffffffft!" This alt will self destruct in 10 seconds. |
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SKINE DMZ
YouView INC
66
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Posted - 2013.07.26 13:20:00 -
[911] - Quote
also congrats harry your thread has more pages than any thread in the most recent 2 pages apart from two whiny threads about textures and an animation, and one thread from CCP asking for feedback |
Joepopo
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
104
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Posted - 2013.07.26 13:22:00 -
[912] - Quote
the russians did fleet up with Harry once but I have logs from yesterday where they refuse to take him in fleet since he has no bomber... Nice teamplay.
Now some facts: - Harry kills 300m woth of cyno in a month and gets annoyed when i show how we kill 10B of ships in 1 hour. - Harry does not have the balls to get to Fountain, he refuses to check for himself that there are indeed more people there than in VFK (maybe affraid that the trip in null sec will be too safe)
- Herzog, an eve veteran, won't risk his shiny toys in null. he prefers to roll an alt with less than 900000 SP. of course null will feel safe this way.
Maybe goons will show up on the 28th either as neutral alts in your fleets, killing you all by surprise, or camping on the way, when you re boating alone to VFK.
Either way you will feel miserable.
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SKINE DMZ
YouView INC
66
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Posted - 2013.07.26 13:26:00 -
[913] - Quote
10b ships killed by yourself as a solo player? I applaud you for that achievement.
You might be correct mr seal but one thing is for sure, I won't feel miserable
PS why did you not include me? am I not special enough? |
E-2C Hawkeye
State War Academy Caldari State
239
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Posted - 2013.07.26 13:26:00 -
[914] - Quote
Keep up the good work Harry. |
Lucas Kell
JSR1 AND GOLDEN GUARDIAN PRODUCTIONS SpaceMonkey's Alliance
233
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Posted - 2013.07.26 13:30:00 -
[915] - Quote
SKINE DMZ wrote:how old are you?? "We are not telling him how to have fun. But if he's going to come on the forums, talking some shite about how he's teaching the goons a lesson, and he thinks he's not going to get reamed out for it, he's got another thing coming."
this is a game haha you sound a million time more childish and silly than harry, I hope you realise this. lol? You really need to start reading Harrys posts without your bias glasses on. Read from a neutral standpoint Harry is basically stamping his feet every time anyone points out something that disputes the FACT that he provides such as his superior ship killing skills. Most of what Harry talk is absolute shite and unsubstantiated "facts", regardless of whether you think he is right or wrong.
Joepopo wrote:the russians did fleet up with Harry once but I have logs from yesterday where they refuse to take him in fleet since he has no bomber... Nice teamplay.
Now some facts: - Harry kills 300m woth of cyno in a month and gets annoyed when i show how we kill 10B of ships in 1 hour. - Harry does not have the balls to get to Fountain, he refuses to check for himself that there are indeed more people there than in VFK (maybe affraid that the trip in null sec will be too safe)
- Herzog, an eve veteran, won't risk his shiny toys in null. he prefers to roll an alt with less than 900000 SP. of course null will feel safe this way.
Maybe goons will show up on the 28th either as neutral alts in your fleets, killing you all by surprise, or camping on the way, when you re boating alone to VFK.
Either way you will feel miserable.
I'm actually doing both :D Already a part of the crew! I have nothing going on this weekend (except ops most likely) and I'm hoping for maximum tears. The Indecisive Noob - A new EVE Fan Blog for news and stuff. |
SKINE DMZ
YouView INC
68
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Posted - 2013.07.26 13:37:00 -
[916] - Quote
I think harry is just a little sick of the negativity that it has brought, when in reality what he is actually trying to do is only positive for both goons(real carebears) and carebears(called carebears by the real carebears in null), I'd like to think that harry is more intelligent than what is portrait in this thread, after talking to him for awhile I know his head is definitely screwed on and he is not a kid.
And if anything, his responses have kept the thread going so whatever is happening it seems to be keeping it all alive
Now onto you, read your posts from a neutral standpoint against what you say is a kid stamping his feet, you are nothing better my friend, only worse. |
Joepopo
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
104
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Posted - 2013.07.26 13:44:00 -
[917] - Quote
SKINE DMZ wrote:I think harry is just a little sick of the negativity that it has brought, when in reality what he is actually trying to do is only positive for both goons(real carebears) and carebears(called carebears by the real carebears in null), I'd like to think that harry is more intelligent than what is portrait in this thread, after talking to him for awhile I know his head is definitely screwed on and he is not a kid. And if anything, his responses have kept the thread going so whatever is happening it seems to be keeping it all alive Now onto you, read your posts from a neutral standpoint against what you say is a kid stamping his feet, you are nothing better my friend, only worse.
Mr seal have been talking to you for a while and gave you 15.
Of course the kills I showed are in group, so are harry's. the difference is that I was involved in the fight.
What do you do SKINE? Have you even jumped in EC-P8R yet? |
flakeys
Arkham Innovations
1243
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Posted - 2013.07.26 13:45:00 -
[918] - Quote
SKINE DMZ wrote: I'd like to think that harry is more intelligent than what is portrait in this thread.
He sure has a great way of hiding that .
And i'm not just talking about this thread but every thread he has created and posted in.
There's a reason i refer to him as harry the clown ....
We are all born ignorant, but one must work hard to remain stupid.
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Harry Forever
SpaceJunkys
487
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Posted - 2013.07.26 13:46:00 -
[919] - Quote
I feel like having 100 goblins sitting on my back and shouting in my ears oh man, what a mess
hope just everybody does not stick to the forum on the 28th prizes only can be won ingame :D
don't let me win the tengu by just killing a cyno solo :D Goons Doomsday Event - 28. July |
Harry Forever
SpaceJunkys
487
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Posted - 2013.07.26 13:49:00 -
[920] - Quote
SKINE DMZ wrote:I don't know if harry claimed that he killed that obelisk, or if he said that part of his cause killed an obelisk, to be quite honest with you I am not going to waste my time looking for that.
you seem to have a slight issue with reading, these people already support harry and space junkeys from very early on and actually fleet up through the channel, not local.
stop being so silly, harry got sponsored and set up an event, most of us don't even have time to think about details about who is going to get prizes, we aren't all organised like an hierachy, we don't all take this game as seriously as you do.
how old are you?? "We are not telling him how to have fun. But if he's going to come on the forums, talking some shite about how he's teaching the goons a lesson, and he thinks he's not going to get reamed out for it, he's got another thing coming."
this is a game haha you sound a million time more childish and silly than harry, I hope you realise this.
I blocked Lucas now, I did never say I killed the obelisk I just told him the russians did because he was telling me the system is empty, it was just an explanation I gave to tell him the system is not empty
Lucas is just throwing stuff, like a baby who does not get the attention he wants Goons Doomsday Event - 28. July |
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SKINE DMZ
YouView INC
69
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Posted - 2013.07.26 13:50:00 -
[921] - Quote
Joepopo wrote:SKINE DMZ wrote:I think harry is just a little sick of the negativity that it has brought, when in reality what he is actually trying to do is only positive for both goons(real carebears) and carebears(called carebears by the real carebears in null), I'd like to think that harry is more intelligent than what is portrait in this thread, after talking to him for awhile I know his head is definitely screwed on and he is not a kid. And if anything, his responses have kept the thread going so whatever is happening it seems to be keeping it all alive Now onto you, read your posts from a neutral standpoint against what you say is a kid stamping his feet, you are nothing better my friend, only worse. Mr seal have been talking to you for a while and gave you 15. Of course the kills I showed are in group, so are harry's. the difference is that I was involved in the fight. What do you do SKINE? Have you even jumped in EC-P8R yet? keep thinking you were involved in the fight, sorry but I have no respect for people who think they are effective in what they are doing yet can't seem to actually accomplish anything by themselves.
anyway you seem to have missed the screenshots of me shitting on your front yard, and then getting one of your associates to clean it up got raped very quickly after taunting some dude infront of your station but was all fun and games more satisfying than most i've done in eve before |
Lucas Kell
JSR1 AND GOLDEN GUARDIAN PRODUCTIONS SpaceMonkey's Alliance
233
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Posted - 2013.07.26 13:53:00 -
[922] - Quote
SKINE DMZ wrote:I think harry is just a little sick of the negativity that it has brought, when in reality what he is actually trying to do is only positive for both goons(real carebears) and carebears(called carebears by the real carebears in null), I'd like to think that harry is more intelligent than what is portrait in this thread, after talking to him for awhile I know his head is definitely screwed on and he is not a kid. And if anything, his responses have kept the thread going so whatever is happening it seems to be keeping it all alive Now onto you, read your posts from a neutral standpoint against what you say is a kid stamping his feet, you are nothing better my friend, only worse. Ah the "I know you are so what am I" move. At the end of the day, he's claiming superiority, he's claiming a massive kill count, he's claiming that this is damaging the goons and he's claiming that its a revolutionary idea. We're simply telling him his cyno kills do nothing but help us get back to deployment quicker, that he's not having any affect as that space is currently empty and that the "revolutionary idea" is something that happens every day in VFK. I'm not the one freaking out and having a tantrum. He's delusional, and honestly (truly honestly, not trying to be insulting here) he behaves much like a child. Children tend to make up a false reality in their minds and if you put anything forward which breaks that image, they react in the same way Harry does. So Harry. Be honest. How old are you bro?
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Lucas Kell
JSR1 AND GOLDEN GUARDIAN PRODUCTIONS SpaceMonkey's Alliance
233
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Posted - 2013.07.26 13:56:00 -
[923] - Quote
Harry Forever wrote:SKINE DMZ wrote:I don't know if harry claimed that he killed that obelisk, or if he said that part of his cause killed an obelisk, to be quite honest with you I am not going to waste my time looking for that.
you seem to have a slight issue with reading, these people already support harry and space junkeys from very early on and actually fleet up through the channel, not local.
stop being so silly, harry got sponsored and set up an event, most of us don't even have time to think about details about who is going to get prizes, we aren't all organised like an hierachy, we don't all take this game as seriously as you do.
how old are you?? "We are not telling him how to have fun. But if he's going to come on the forums, talking some shite about how he's teaching the goons a lesson, and he thinks he's not going to get reamed out for it, he's got another thing coming."
this is a game haha you sound a million time more childish and silly than harry, I hope you realise this.
I blocked Lucas now, I did never say I killed the obelisk I just told him the russians did because he was telling me the system is empty, it was just an explanation I gave to tell him the system is not empty Lucas is just throwing stuff, like a baby who does not get the attention he wants Onoes! I'm blocked. Well I guess that means I can say whatever I want and Harry can't dispute it. Harry actually has achieved nothing in this campaign. I spoke to him privately and apparently he is just doing this to gather up plenty of prizes, then he is going to take them all for himself! That's why all prizes are contracted to him in advance rather than straight to the winners! I urge you, do not support this scammers cause! He just wants your shiny ships! The Indecisive Noob - A new EVE Fan Blog for news and stuff. |
Maximillian German
Spectres Syndicate
28
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Posted - 2013.07.26 13:57:00 -
[924] - Quote
Harry is bad at eve. Period. And not only is he bad at eve, he's arrogant. Those two qualities, more than anything else, annoy the everliving **** out of me. And you know what? He's growing on me. This bullheadedness of his might finally be what causes some change to the nullsec status quo. I don't think it could ever work, but maybe it's never happened because nobody had the stones to go through with it. Either way, it's bound to be fun, and that's all that matters. So I guess what im saying is:
You've got my support. I'll see you in VFK Harry. |
Doc Fury
Furious Enterprises
3112
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Posted - 2013.07.26 13:58:00 -
[925] - Quote
Popping in to set up a bucket, I had no idea there were so many goon tears in this thread about someone they are unconcerned with and view as irrelevant.
"You suck, you're not having fun the way we think you should. But you can't hurt us, so... whatever. Did we mention how bad you suck? "
The accumulated filth of all their sex and murder will foam up about their waists and all the ho's and politicians will look up and shout 'Save us!' and I'll look down, and whisper 'Hodor'. |
SKINE DMZ
YouView INC
69
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Posted - 2013.07.26 13:58:00 -
[926] - Quote
let me answer: please quote where harry claims superiority he is not calming a "massive kill count" and if anything massive is subjective and it is massive for him then it is a massive kill count, seems like you are also putting up false realities in your head together with the goons if you know what a massive kill count is) however minor, he is damaging goons, individual ones. please quote where harry claims this is revolutionary idea, and to be honest I've never seen it happens on this scale really, what he is doing is quite unique.
sounds to me you are a little bit delusional, and creating your own false reality, whos the child here? |
SKINE DMZ
YouView INC
69
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Posted - 2013.07.26 13:59:00 -
[927] - Quote
Lucas Kell wrote:Harry Forever wrote:SKINE DMZ wrote:I don't know if harry claimed that he killed that obelisk, or if he said that part of his cause killed an obelisk, to be quite honest with you I am not going to waste my time looking for that.
you seem to have a slight issue with reading, these people already support harry and space junkeys from very early on and actually fleet up through the channel, not local.
stop being so silly, harry got sponsored and set up an event, most of us don't even have time to think about details about who is going to get prizes, we aren't all organised like an hierachy, we don't all take this game as seriously as you do.
how old are you?? "We are not telling him how to have fun. But if he's going to come on the forums, talking some shite about how he's teaching the goons a lesson, and he thinks he's not going to get reamed out for it, he's got another thing coming."
this is a game haha you sound a million time more childish and silly than harry, I hope you realise this.
I blocked Lucas now, I did never say I killed the obelisk I just told him the russians did because he was telling me the system is empty, it was just an explanation I gave to tell him the system is not empty Lucas is just throwing stuff, like a baby who does not get the attention he wants Onoes! I'm blocked. Well I guess that means I can say whatever I want and Harry can't dispute it. Harry actually has achieved nothing in this campaign. I spoke to him privately and apparently he is just doing this to gather up plenty of prizes, then he is going to take them all for himself! That's why all prizes are contracted to him in advance rather than straight to the winners! I urge you, do not support this scammers cause! He just wants your shiny ships!
here for the public to see, the real attitude of a child, thank you for confirming. |
Joepopo
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
104
|
Posted - 2013.07.26 13:59:00 -
[928] - Quote
Harry Forever wrote:
I blocked Lucas again, its just hopeless with that guy, I did never say I killed the obelisk I just told him the russians did because he was telling me the system is empty, it was just an explanation I gave to tell him the system is not empty
Lucas is just throwing stuff, like a baby who does not get the attention he wants
if Jita local had 34 people and one freighter in it, would you say it is empty? |
SKINE DMZ
YouView INC
69
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Posted - 2013.07.26 14:02:00 -
[929] - Quote
empty would mean there is no one, how can you not answer such a simple question yourself?
conclusion: a system with 34 people inside is not empty |
Alavaria Fera
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
3883
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Posted - 2013.07.26 14:02:00 -
[930] - Quote
Is this just after downtime, before everyone logs back in? There are no goons. The goons' 0.0 dream is over. Fountain will never fall. Deklein by September. Thought is not heresy, wrong thought is.
PL, NC., N3, Tribe, 401k, you are our only hope ! ~TEST2013 |
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Lucas Kell
JSR1 AND GOLDEN GUARDIAN PRODUCTIONS SpaceMonkey's Alliance
233
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Posted - 2013.07.26 14:07:00 -
[931] - Quote
SKINE DMZ wrote:let me answer: please quote where harry claims superiority he is not calming a "massive kill count" and if anything massive is subjective and it is massive for him then it is a massive kill count, seems like you are also putting up false realities in your head together with the goons if you know what a massive kill count is) however minor, he is damaging goons, individual ones. please quote where harry claims this is revolutionary idea, and to be honest I've never seen it happens on this scale really, what he is doing is quite unique.
sounds to me you are a little bit delusional, and creating your own false reality, whos the child here? How is he damaging to goons? Really?
He is claiming 51 kills, of which at least 47 are cyno pilots. If he hadn't killed them, they likely would have killed themselves. AS you undoubtedly know, as cyno pilot allows a capital to jump to it, but it is locked in place for 10 minutes. killing the pilot allows that 10 minutes to be skilled so the cyno can be moved and used elsewhere.
Just because you have no clue what is going on does not mean that we are inventing false realities. Are you even involved in this? Have you even been to VFK? Or have you just watched his pew pew video of 2 month of combat compressed into 60 seconds and assumed the rest? The Indecisive Noob - A new EVE Fan Blog for news and stuff. |
Joepopo
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
104
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Posted - 2013.07.26 14:07:00 -
[932] - Quote
SKINE DMZ wrote:empty would mean there is no one, how can you not answer such a simple question yourself? conclusion: a system with 34 people inside is not empty
Have fun in your active system, with all those terrified market alt that won't exit the station. |
Lucas Kell
JSR1 AND GOLDEN GUARDIAN PRODUCTIONS SpaceMonkey's Alliance
233
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Posted - 2013.07.26 14:10:00 -
[933] - Quote
SKINE DMZ wrote:empty would mean there is no one, how can you not answer such a simple question yourself? conclusion: a system with 34 people inside is not empty Like I stated, empty except trade alts, logistics, PI alts and capitals moving in and out. Trade alts do not log out, logistics are generally guarded and are jump freighters, pi alts often just need to log on restart cycles and log off, and capitals jump in and out to move stock to and from deployment. Sure there may be a couple of passers by, but certainly not enough pilots to warrant an invasion. Try reading posts before coming on here and embarrassing yourself. The Indecisive Noob - A new EVE Fan Blog for news and stuff. |
SKINE DMZ
YouView INC
69
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Posted - 2013.07.26 14:11:00 -
[934] - Quote
since when is active the same as empty? also "empty without" does not really exist, it is either empty or not empty guys
and lucas don't want to ignore you but you are obviously not reading very well which may or may not be because of physical difficulties. |
Lucas Kell
JSR1 AND GOLDEN GUARDIAN PRODUCTIONS SpaceMonkey's Alliance
233
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Posted - 2013.07.26 14:16:00 -
[935] - Quote
SKINE DMZ wrote:since when is active the same as empty? also "empty without" does not really exist, it is either empty or not empty guys and lucas don't want to ignore you but you are obviously not reading very well which may or may not be because of physical difficulties. Don't be stupid, the space is empty, the station may not be. Until they make walking in stations, the population of docked players is meaningless to would be gankers. If you really need these things explained to you, perhaps this is the wrong thread for you. Now you resort to ad hominem as you've run out of meaningful things to say, which automatically declares me the victor of this debate. Thanks for playing. The Indecisive Noob - A new EVE Fan Blog for news and stuff. |
Kaarous Aldurald
ROC Academy The ROC
636
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Posted - 2013.07.26 14:18:00 -
[936] - Quote
34 =0?!
Man, I've been doing math wrong for YEARS. All I had to do, it seems, was just make stuff up and I'm automatically right. Not posting on my main, and loving it.-á Because free speech.-á |
SKINE DMZ
YouView INC
69
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Posted - 2013.07.26 14:25:00 -
[937] - Quote
Lucas Kell wrote:SKINE DMZ wrote:since when is active the same as empty? also "empty without" does not really exist, it is either empty or not empty guys and lucas don't want to ignore you but you are obviously not reading very well which may or may not be because of physical difficulties. Don't be stupid, the space is empty, the station may not be. Until they make walking in stations, the population of docked players is meaningless to would be gankers. If you really need these things explained to you, perhaps this is the wrong thread for you. Now you resort to ad hominem as you've run out of meaningful things to say, which automatically declares me the victor of this debate. Thanks for playing. yes you are definitely the victor! funny how delusional people dare to call others delusional |
Lucas Kell
JSR1 AND GOLDEN GUARDIAN PRODUCTIONS SpaceMonkey's Alliance
233
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Posted - 2013.07.26 14:32:00 -
[938] - Quote
Kaarous Aldurald wrote:34 =0?!
Man, I've been doing math wrong for YEARS. All I had to do, it seems, was just make stuff up and I'm automatically right. Please Kaarous... now I know you're smarter than that. You surely know the difference between "players in system" and "players to fight in system". Docked trade alts are not included when you are talking about how many people are in system to fight with. Anyway, the point we were getting across is VFK is hardly the core of the goon community at the moment, so taking it on now is a cop-out. The Indecisive Noob - A new EVE Fan Blog for news and stuff. |
Kaarous Aldurald
ROC Academy The ROC
640
|
Posted - 2013.07.26 14:37:00 -
[939] - Quote
Lucas Kell wrote:Kaarous Aldurald wrote:34 =0?!
Man, I've been doing math wrong for YEARS. All I had to do, it seems, was just make stuff up and I'm automatically right. Please Kaarous... now I know you're smarter than that. You surely know the difference between "players in system" and "players to fight in system". Docked trade alts are not included when you are talking about how many people are in system to fight with. Anyway, the point we were getting across is VFK is hardly the core of the goon community at the moment, so taking it on now is a cop-out.
Eh, people are people, dude.
VFK? Yeah, not a lot flying around there. But it's not empty.
Functionally empty? Yes. "Might as well be" empty? Yes.
Do I disagree that they are having an impact only in their own minds? Hell no, they're delusional like I haven't seen since my wife worked a nursing home. But the slight hyperbole did bite you in the ass this time, and you shouldn't have argued the point.
Now, let's get back to the topic at hand.
Harry and his guys are either nuts, pitiful, a scam, or all 3.
Discuss. Not posting on my main, and loving it.-á Because free speech.-á |
Lucas Kell
JSR1 AND GOLDEN GUARDIAN PRODUCTIONS SpaceMonkey's Alliance
233
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Posted - 2013.07.26 14:43:00 -
[940] - Quote
Kaarous Aldurald wrote:Lucas Kell wrote:Kaarous Aldurald wrote:34 =0?!
Man, I've been doing math wrong for YEARS. All I had to do, it seems, was just make stuff up and I'm automatically right. Please Kaarous... now I know you're smarter than that. You surely know the difference between "players in system" and "players to fight in system". Docked trade alts are not included when you are talking about how many people are in system to fight with. Anyway, the point we were getting across is VFK is hardly the core of the goon community at the moment, so taking it on now is a cop-out. Eh, people are people, dude. VFK? Yeah, not a lot flying around there. But it's not empty. Functionally empty? Yes. "Might as well be" empty? Yes. Do I disagree that they are having an impact only in their own minds? Hell no, they're delusional like I haven't seen since my wife worked a nursing home. But the slight hyperbole did bite you in the ass this time, and you shouldn't have argued the point. Now, let's get back to the topic at hand. Harry and his guys are either nuts, pitiful, a scam, or all 3. Discuss. Agreed.
I think all 3. Even if it was not originally set out to be a scam, I don't think a 3 month old of his caliber would pass up the opportunity to nab a billion isk in ships. The Indecisive Noob - A new EVE Fan Blog for news and stuff. |
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Joepopo
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
104
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Posted - 2013.07.26 14:47:00 -
[941] - Quote
Lucas Kell wrote:
I think all 3. Even if it was not originally set out to be a scam, I don't think a 3 month old of his caliber would pass up the opportunity to nab a billion isk in ships.
Maybe not now, maybe when he realise only 5 people showed up in VFK, instead of thousands expected, he will rage and declare himself winner of all prizes. Then he might shelter under the fact that it s not a scam and he legitimately won these. |
Kaarous Aldurald
ROC Academy The ROC
640
|
Posted - 2013.07.26 14:47:00 -
[942] - Quote
Quote:Agreed.
I think all 3. Even if it was not originally set out to be a scam, I don't think a 3 month old of his caliber would pass up the opportunity to nab a billion isk in ships.
I know, I almost wish I'd thought of it myself.
Rally popular support by making token attacks against the most hated group in EVE? Check.
Ask for donations? Check.
Run off with the lot? Checkmate. Not posting on my main, and loving it.-á Because free speech.-á |
Khergit Deserters
Crom's Angels
1395
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Posted - 2013.07.26 15:33:00 -
[943] - Quote
Hey could you guys try to keep it a little more positive in here? Some of us are trying to have fun...!
But seriously, why the personal insults on Harry? He's not bragging and he's not being arrogant. He's posting reports of his successes to encourage other highsec players to get in there and start shooting. He's putting a positive spin on things to keep the energy and momentum up. If you've ever put together a corp or any other volunteer group, you know that being a cheerleader is a huge part of it. 10% of people lead and organize, and maybe another 20% are active, reliable, and show self-initiative. That leaves another 70%-- the huge majority-- who need to be encouraged and motivated. That's what Harry's doing with his reports from the front-- P.R., recruiting, motivating, and keeping the momentum up. (I'm speaking for Harry here-- if that's not correct Harry, then say so). No need to hate on him for that.
And by the way, when I talk to Goon guys in local around VFK, it's usually positive, no bitterness, good sense of humor all around. They know who I am-- the carebear incursion thing is in my bio. We can shoot at each other without hating on each other. What's wrong with that? |
Joepopo
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
105
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Posted - 2013.07.26 15:40:00 -
[944] - Quote
Khergit Deserters wrote:Hey could you guys try to keep it a little more positive in here? Some of us are trying to have fun...! But seriously, why the personal insults on Harry? He's not bragging and he's not being arrogant. He's posting reports of his successes to encourage other highsec players to get in there and start shooting. He's putting a positive spin on things to keep the energy and momentum up. If you've ever put together a corp or any other volunteer group, you know that being a cheerleader is a huge part of it. 10% of people lead and organize, and maybe another 20% are active, reliable, and show self-initiative. That leaves another 70%-- the huge majority-- who need to be encouraged and motivated. That's what Harry's doing with his reports from the front-- P.R., recruiting, motivating, and keeping the momentum up. (I'm speaking for Harry here-- if that's not correct Harry, then say so). No need to hate on him for that. And by the way, when I talk to Goon guys in local around VFK, it's usually positive, no bitterness, good sense of humor all around. They know who I am-- the carebear incursion thing is in my bio. We can shoot at each other without hating on each other. What's wrong with that?
Nothing wrong if you are a reasonable human being. Rejecting others people advice, not listening if we explain why deklein is empty. Trying to make a point by shouting louder than the rest, is not reasonable.
Calling people brainless zombies, goblins or whatever, does not help either. |
Lucas Kell
JSR1 AND GOLDEN GUARDIAN PRODUCTIONS SpaceMonkey's Alliance
233
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Posted - 2013.07.26 15:47:00 -
[945] - Quote
Also, there's the question of these "reports of his successes". So far I've not seen anything I would consider a success. How he has lost so many ships considering he has primarily been fighting cyno ships with no guns on them amazes me somewhat. The Indecisive Noob - A new EVE Fan Blog for news and stuff. |
Herzog Wolfhammer
Sigma Special Tactics Group
3197
|
Posted - 2013.07.26 16:02:00 -
[946] - Quote
Harry Forever wrote:Lucas Kell wrote:SKINE DMZ wrote:Symolian couldn't be more right, and mr lucas you still don't understand, it doesnt have to be a statement to the goons, it can be a statement to the highsec carebears or even to yourself, knowing that even the "biggest" alliance in game does not scare you, you are free to do how you wish in this game, and that makes it a very enjoyable experience. We don't care about losing ships, or killing them, it's fun to go out there and do dangerous play, thats it. You goons coming in here saying "ooh but it wont work and it has no effect and do you even know?" just means you guys are too silly to understand and are ruining your own game as don't you all want it to be a sandbox? I do understand. You want to show everyone that you can do what you want. But you can hang around empty systems anywhere, so it makes absolutely no difference. It's not something new to hang around in VFK trying to harass goons, but you guys are choosing to do it at a time when even the goons won't be there. It's completely pointless. That and the fact that it's being orchestrated by an idiot and will probably result in you being killed by a random pipebomb before even getting to VFK destroys any ability for it to be a statement to anyone. I'm coming in here because I'm bored and don't have access to EVE during the day. Seeing you guys threatening empty space is pretty amusing. I just want to pick out one point: "it's fun to go out there and do dangerous play" It's not dangerous is it though. The only danger is getting down here, then it's empty space. If you are really after danger, then fly down to Fountain, stage in an NPC station (there are a few) and launch micro attacks on people from there. You get to shoot a lot and may even get some good kills in as there's often frigates traveling around. That would be fun and dangerous. the system is not empty, there are many haulers going back and forth as well as people going to ratting areas from VFK, not sure why you keep repeating it like a jumping cd... we want to be in VFK because its your main hub and we get some easy targets, we are partly new players to gain some experience, why don't you get this easy explanation although we mentioned it over 100 times now? please explain, and we will help you to fully understand it... I don't want to leave any goblin in the dark about this...
Talk about "not empty" - came across an elite frigate wreck with a deadspace module in it. A total of 39 million ISK in loot.
Yeah, it's "empty" out there.
There's so much loot, PVP, and harvest to be had out there it's fantastic. But the psyop is simple: convince people they will get blobbed in two seconds, not to even try it, and build a combination of defeatism and Stockholm syndrome on pure lies. So those that buy into the lies will ferociously defend the lies when someone else comes along who is not fooled by them.
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Harry Forever
SpaceJunkys
502
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Posted - 2013.07.26 16:04:00 -
[947] - Quote
Khergit Deserters wrote:Hey could you guys try to keep it a little more positive in here? Some of us are trying to have fun...! But seriously, why the personal insults on Harry? He's not bragging and he's not being arrogant. He's posting reports of his successes to encourage other highsec players to get in there and start shooting. He's putting a positive spin on things to keep the energy and momentum up. If you've ever put together a corp or any other volunteer group, you know that being a cheerleader is a huge part of it. 10% of people lead and organize, and maybe another 20% are active, reliable, and show self-initiative. That leaves another 70%-- the huge majority-- who need to be encouraged and motivated. That's what Harry's doing with his reports from the front-- P.R., recruiting, motivating, and keeping the momentum up. (I'm speaking for Harry here-- if that's not correct Harry, then say so). No need to hate on him for that. And by the way, when I talk to Goon guys in local around VFK, it's usually positive, no bitterness, good sense of humor all around. They know who I am-- the carebear incursion thing is in my bio. We can shoot at each other without hating on each other. What's wrong with that?
good one Khergit, I think its the other side of the coin, we not only attack cynos but deep believes what can and can not be done... it feels like telling people there is no god although they believe in it and they need to believe in it to survive, we are breaking chains here, who where made over 10 years, its hard and people feel unconfident with their new freedome, not feeling safe in their alliance anymore scares them to death maybe. its not an easy path we did choose, but I'm sure if we hold together we can lighten up that darkness and show them the new and exciting world they are living in :') Goons Doomsday Event - 28. July |
Kaarous Aldurald
ROC Academy The ROC
646
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Posted - 2013.07.26 16:05:00 -
[948] - Quote
Quote:There's so much loot, PVP, and harvest to be had out there it's fantastic. But the psyop is simple: convince people they will get blobbed in two seconds, not to even try it, and build a combination of defeatism and Stockholm syndrome on pure lies. So those that buy into the lies will ferociously defend the lies when someone else comes along who is not fooled by them.
So, you're totally going to still be doing this after the war in Fountain is over, right? You know, the war that has almost the entirety of the CFC's combat force tied up?
When the cat is away, the mice will play.
You guys are the mice. Not posting on my main, and loving it.-á Because free speech.-á |
Miku Yumi
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
5
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Posted - 2013.07.26 16:06:00 -
[949] - Quote
Dont stop believin |
Khergit Deserters
Crom's Angels
1396
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Posted - 2013.07.26 16:10:00 -
[950] - Quote
Miku Yumi wrote:Dont stop believin Dang, now you put that horrible song in my head. Dirty Goons doing psy ops attacks on us! |
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Herzog Wolfhammer
Sigma Special Tactics Group
3198
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Posted - 2013.07.26 16:25:00 -
[951] - Quote
symolan wrote:Lucas Kell wrote: The statement says nothing as it has no effect. All it does is keep a bunch of noobs out of highsec for a day while they fail at traversing through null. Goons aren't even going to be there. So how is it a statement to the goons?
Well as I said, I don't expect it to have any impact on much, but... I've started Eve some years ago for a few weeks and came back few weeks back... after I've seen this thread, I noticed that I'm in grave danger to become too carebearish (the ISK-fixation in this game is seductive (? not native speaker). So I let myself be inspired a little, fitted a frig and went through 0. It's not as hard traversing thru that space as I expected... and as you seem to think according to the quote. Yeah there were some bubbles and camps but as CCP gave us cloaking that didn't lead to a loss. I won't Corp out of personal reasons (wifes can be special...) but I'm currently trying to find a way to find a use of 0, even if it's solo there must be a way to use that whole space (what waste otherwise, also I feel entitled to be there as long as I'm not sent back). Regarding the statement to the goons. Statements do not have to have a direct impact. Sometimes it's enought it was made (Galilei?). And I guess there are more than a single statement the guys want to make here. And most I guess not directed to the goons. But directed at the carebears. The short time I'm back and reading the forums they gave me the impression that in 0 there's only death for a solo player. Via the ISK-fixation I would assume that many people (solo's, of which there seem to be a surprising lot here, also as I at least find it harder here to socialize than in other MMO's; you don't meet people too often by surprise or in a different way and when there's always the paranoia...) will have been deterred of heading out there. I also read how Null wants players to leave HS and come there... but I get the impression that holds only true if they join corp X or Y. Why is that? (I do have a suspicion... imagine half the solo's roaming thru null.... Nullbears wouldn't dare to undock for weeks... again, not confirmed, just my impression after processing available info) I at least am planning to be an annoying neut that does a touristic tour through all of Eve.
You have it right.
Yeah this is not the end of the goons. But it will be the end of the nullsec we know.
Because if you look at the rage over AFK cloakers, nullsec is just as wallet-hugging as highsec. A nullsec bubble camper who does not get his kill will cry like a highsec mission runner throwing a tantrum over a ninja salvager.
So far the focus is on highsec carebears to realize that internet spaceships is not as "srs business" as people are conditioned to think. Now you have ship-hugging and wallet hugging all over the place.
The truth is, once the carebears show the way, the greifers and pirates (there's a huge difference) will catch on. So instead of suicide ganking hulks and attacking haulers in highsec, they will realize the potential for butthurt is much greater in nullsec. Think killing some noobs first mission drake is fun? He was going to lose it anyway. Sneak past Joe Camper who hasn't gotten a kill in an hour and tell him how fail he is for some real "tears" if that's what you are after. Send in a dessie suicide force and take out their intie that cost more than both ships combined and you get some real tears.
But those are the bottom feeders.
Nullsec has sold the same ISK fountain that they lie about highsec being. And they do this on their foundation of lies. Sure anybody can survive in nullsec, they will tell you, so long as you are in a corp/alliance.
What they fear most is the aspect of thousands of random neutrals out there hunting and harvesting. Sure they can be killed, blobbed, ganked, camped, and all that other good stuff.
But as much as we can argue that a gun has limitations, so does the power and scope of nullsec. You want to contain highsec? Well, their lies and propaganda have been successful, but in the long term, nothing else could work.
That's why the goons have sent in their crack team of forum warriors. Because the real target of all this is the big lie. The real target of all this is this fear that gets instilled in everybody to fear losing a ship while the goons act like they relish in it - making fighting them seem as futile as having a fistfight with an ugly person who has already lost all of his teeth.
No the nullsec alliances are not going to come toppling down. But like a mansion infested with zombies, you have a lot of beautiful real estate in which you can never rest. Eventually it would be abandoned.
So the target is the lie, the target is the carebear, their own impressions, and their own conditioning. You cannot defeat human weakness, they say, because you can't fight weakness - it's like throwing energy down a black hole. But weakness can be cancelled out.
Thousands of highseccers roaming nullsec looking for fights, loot, and harvest (for in the background there are explorers and miners doing their thing) will turn the "big blue donut" - something we can expect once more when TEST is defeated - into a festering hellhole of violence and fear. But there will also be freedom in a land where those who think they own it have none themselves, and pay to keep it that way.
This is the rise of nullsec piracy. |
Falin Whalen
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
367
|
Posted - 2013.07.26 16:31:00 -
[952] - Quote
Khergit Deserters wrote:Miku Yumi wrote:Dont stop believin Dang, now you put that horrible song in my head. Dirty Goons doing psy ops attacks on us! Hold on to that feelin'
You've got to remember that these are just simple miners. These are people of the land. The common clay of New Eden. You know... morons. |
Ustrello
Amok. Goonswarm Federation
125
|
Posted - 2013.07.26 16:40:00 -
[953] - Quote
Lucas Kell wrote: And in fact one of my corp mates was in VFK yesterday I believe, and you were refusing to fight him apparently. He said you were in a destroyer and refused to fight him in a 1 on 1 unless he came out in a frigate. Yeah, super courageous there.
Quoting to see if harry answers for his cowardice |
Harry Forever
SpaceJunkys
506
|
Posted - 2013.07.26 16:45:00 -
[954] - Quote
Ustrello wrote:Lucas Kell wrote: And in fact one of my corp mates was in VFK yesterday I believe, and you were refusing to fight him apparently. He said you were in a destroyer and refused to fight him in a 1 on 1 unless he came out in a frigate. Yeah, super courageous there. Quoting to see if harry answers for his cowardice
yea he was in a bigger ship, was a pretty smart move, smart things you don't understand I assume, for sure there where 5 other goons waiting cloaked up like usual when they play those games
Ustrello by the way, blocked as well, you are unuseful to me, sorry Goons Doomsday Event - 28. July |
Herzog Wolfhammer
Sigma Special Tactics Group
3199
|
Posted - 2013.07.26 16:48:00 -
[955] - Quote
Joepopo wrote:the russians did fleet up with Harry once but I have logs from yesterday where they refuse to take him in fleet since he has no bomber... Nice teamplay.
Now some facts: - Harry kills 300m woth of cyno in a month and gets annoyed when i show how we kill 10B of ships in 1 hour. - Harry does not have the balls to get to Fountain, he refuses to check for himself that there are indeed more people there than in VFK (maybe affraid that the trip in null sec will be too safe)
- Herzog, an eve veteran, won't risk his shiny toys in null. he prefers to roll an alt with less than 900000 SP. of course null will feel safe this way.
Maybe goons will show up on the 28th either as neutral alts in your fleets, killing you all by surprise, or camping on the way, when you re boating alone to VFK.
Either way you will feel miserable.
You demonstrate, as usual, the box you are stuck in.
I already told you that I won't hurf and blurf about how new players should go to nullsec and then go running in their with 7 years worth of SP racking. I'm sure if I did that, you will be in this thread pointing that out. It's an enlightening experience to focus the SP pathway of an alt for a specific purpose unlike my original experience of "a little here, a little there". It's a genius system.
Second, the only shiney toy I have is a Federation Navy Comet. I actually had 2 of them, but I gave one to Harry. I still have those free ships that were given to us in the past (Echelon, that sailboat, etc) but those are collectors items anyway.
Finally, I have donated enough materials to this project that I could have a hangar full of shineys.
For you, maybe it's all killboard and shineys. You are telling me how to play, with not actually appearing to tell me how to play. Stop wasting your time. |
Falin Whalen
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
367
|
Posted - 2013.07.26 16:49:00 -
[956] - Quote
Herzog Wolfhammer wrote:Lots of words. Ah, irrational enthusiasm, soon the inevitable confrontation with reality, then the rational diillusionment, and after that comes a new motivational stimulation to which you will become irrationaly enthused by, and the whole cycle starts again. You've got to remember that these are just simple miners. These are people of the land. The common clay of New Eden. You know... morons. |
Harry Forever
SpaceJunkys
507
|
Posted - 2013.07.26 16:54:00 -
[957] - Quote
Falin Whalen wrote:Herzog Wolfhammer wrote:Lots of words. Ah, irrational enthusiasm, soon the inevitable confrontation with reality, then the rational diillusionment, and after that comes a new motivational stimulation to which you will become irrationaly enthused by, and the whole cycle starts again.
guys you so not know how to play this game, you just tell others not to play it, why? because they could find out how much you suck at it? Goons Doomsday Event - 28. July |
Herzog Wolfhammer
Sigma Special Tactics Group
3199
|
Posted - 2013.07.26 16:54:00 -
[958] - Quote
Miku Yumi wrote:Dont stop believin
I think the slogan will be:
"Never give up. Never surrender"
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Leafar Nightfall
Grease Monkeys
20
|
Posted - 2013.07.26 16:55:00 -
[959] - Quote
Goons and their fear of changes to the status quo... |
Alt Elongur
We Don't Like Bullies
31
|
Posted - 2013.07.26 16:57:00 -
[960] - Quote
Falin Whalen wrote:Herzog Wolfhammer wrote:Lots of words. Ah, irrational enthusiasm, soon the inevitable confrontation with reality, then the rational diillusionment, and after that comes a new motivational stimulation to which you will become irrationaly enthused by, and the whole cycle starts again.
What part of, "Pffffffffffffft!" didn't you understand?
This alt will self destruct in 10 seconds. |
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Ustrello
Amok. Goonswarm Federation
125
|
Posted - 2013.07.26 16:58:00 -
[961] - Quote
Harry Forever wrote:Ustrello wrote:Lucas Kell wrote: And in fact one of my corp mates was in VFK yesterday I believe, and you were refusing to fight him apparently. He said you were in a destroyer and refused to fight him in a 1 on 1 unless he came out in a frigate. Yeah, super courageous there. Quoting to see if harry answers for his cowardice yea he was in a bigger ship, was a pretty smart move not to engage, but he was sad as a baby not getting his dummy... smart things you don't understand I assume, for sure there where 5 other goons waiting cloaked up like usual when they play those games Ustrello by the way, blocked as well, you are unuseful to me, sorry
So you ask him to ship down to a smaller ship than you how honorable of you.
Harry forever a coward through and through |
Herzog Wolfhammer
Sigma Special Tactics Group
3199
|
Posted - 2013.07.26 16:59:00 -
[962] - Quote
Kaarous Aldurald wrote:Quote:There's so much loot, PVP, and harvest to be had out there it's fantastic. But the psyop is simple: convince people they will get blobbed in two seconds, not to even try it, and build a combination of defeatism and Stockholm syndrome on pure lies. So those that buy into the lies will ferociously defend the lies when someone else comes along who is not fooled by them. So, you're totally going to still be doing this after the war in Fountain is over, right? You know, the war that has almost the entirety of the CFC's combat force tied up? When the cat is away, the mice will play. You guys are the mice.
Ever notice how there are always mice, no matter how many cats there are?
If I get an entire goon task force trying to route me out of nullsec, I'd consider that a success.
Thereby lies your problem. This is asymmetric warfare. Sure a guy with say, a truck full of TNT can't take down a nation, but if there was one roaming around somewhere everybody will be on edge and everybody without verified ID is suspect. Now you gotta blob everything that's not blue.
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Ken 1138
Caldari Provisions Caldari State
56
|
Posted - 2013.07.26 17:06:00 -
[963] - Quote
I want goons to take over completely so everyone in null is blue to everyone else in null. |
Leafar Nightfall
Grease Monkeys
22
|
Posted - 2013.07.26 17:08:00 -
[964] - Quote
Ustrello wrote: So you ask him to ship down to a smaller ship than you how honorable of you.
Harry forever a coward through and through
C'mon, be honest to yourself, would you be calling him brave or stupid if he engaged? You'll find reasons to bash Harry anyway.
And if you care so much about that, I can imagine how butthurt the pilot was after Harry avoided him.
Whatever is being done here, it sure is working. |
Andski
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
8459
|
Posted - 2013.07.26 17:09:00 -
[965] - Quote
Herzog Wolfhammer wrote:If I get an entire goon task force trying to route me out of nullsec, I'd consider that a success.
i didn't hear of a "task force" to attempt to rout anybody
maybe there are some goons who are tired of this guy smugging about his ~elite cyno kills~ and are blowing him up with their alts in VFK, but that doesn't make a "task force" Twitter: @EVEAndski
TheMittani.com: The premier source for news, commentary and discussion of EVE Online and other games of interest.-á |
Kaarous Aldurald
ROC Academy The ROC
649
|
Posted - 2013.07.26 17:12:00 -
[966] - Quote
Quote:Ever notice how there are always mice, no matter how many cats there are?
Lol what? So, the prey animal will, in nature, deliberately fail to avoid a known predator?
No, they go and hide where the cats are not, in whatever rathole they can find, frequently huddled together for warmth. Their only real defense, should simply running away not be an option, is to hope that they are not the chosen target. The origin of "safety in numbers" is that prey animals lessen their individual chances of being picked off that way.
Hopefully the meaning isn't lost on you. I suspect it will be, however.
Quote:Thereby lies your problem. This is asymmetric warfare. Sure a guy with say, a truck full of TNT can't take down a nation, but if there was one roaming around somewhere everybody will be on edge and everybody without verified ID is suspect. Now you gotta blob everything that's not blue.
So, I love you how you think you can just say the magic words "asymmetric warfare" and that somehow makes what you are doing make sense in any way.
That only works in real life, and even then, it's pretty dubious. They aren't even losing any opportunity cost by chasing you, because their finances already take standing defense fleets into account.
I'd still love to know what you all plan on doing once the vast, vast majority of the Goonfleet is no longer occupied constantly in Fountain. My guess is that you will find some way to claim victory anyway, and shortly after slink out of the system. Not posting on my main, and loving it.-á Because free speech.-á |
SKINE DMZ
YouView INC
82
|
Posted - 2013.07.26 17:12:00 -
[967] - Quote
yes we are mice, you are the cat - but we are this mice and you are that cat
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Uu7U13QslTI |
Harry Forever
SpaceJunkys
508
|
Posted - 2013.07.26 17:12:00 -
[968] - Quote
42 in local, yup VFK is empty again, 5 ships infront of mittanigrad
just pay attention that we don't blob them on sunday
an angry mob of 100 carebears beating down on those, thats all I'm asking for
oh wait, yummy a lonely noctis another tengu... if we kill those ships I have seen the last minute, all prizes would be gone already...
it is perfect, but sshhhh don't tell anybody that we can have some easy kills here
gnosis, malediction, talos undocking, bestower... what are they doing here? sure all ghosts Goons Doomsday Event - 28. July |
Falin Whalen
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
367
|
Posted - 2013.07.26 17:17:00 -
[969] - Quote
Harry Forever wrote:Shobon Buck up little camper, You'll defeat the Goons one day, all by yourself. You've got to remember that these are just simple miners. These are people of the land. The common clay of New Eden. You know... morons. |
Harry Forever
SpaceJunkys
509
|
Posted - 2013.07.26 17:20:00 -
[970] - Quote
a dramiel, a broadsword, a caldari navy hokbill why are you here?
a heron, a rokh, another gnosis, a new tengu, a tornado on dscan a talos, a sabre flying in??
oh boy, a scimitar, another one... ?? please explain.... Goons Doomsday Event - 28. July |
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Herzog Wolfhammer
Sigma Special Tactics Group
3200
|
Posted - 2013.07.26 17:24:00 -
[971] - Quote
Harry Forever wrote:a dramiel, a broadsword, a caldari navy hokbill why are you here?
a heron, a rokh, another gnosis, a new tengu, a tornado on dscan a talos, a sabre flying in??
oh boy, a scimitar, another one... ?? please explain....
Those must be the terrified marketing alts. |
Herzog Wolfhammer
Sigma Special Tactics Group
3201
|
Posted - 2013.07.26 17:26:00 -
[972] - Quote
Kaarous Aldurald wrote:Quote:Ever notice how there are always mice, no matter how many cats there are? Lol what? So, the prey animal will, in nature, deliberately fail to avoid a known predator? No, they go and hide where the cats are not, in whatever rathole they can find, frequently huddled together for warmth. Their only real defense, should simply running away not be an option, is to hope that they are not the chosen target. The origin of "safety in numbers" is that prey animals lessen their individual chances of being picked off that way. Hopefully the meaning isn't lost on you. I suspect it will be, however. Quote:Thereby lies your problem. This is asymmetric warfare. Sure a guy with say, a truck full of TNT can't take down a nation, but if there was one roaming around somewhere everybody will be on edge and everybody without verified ID is suspect. Now you gotta blob everything that's not blue. So, I love you how you think you can just say the magic words "asymmetric warfare" and that somehow makes what you are doing make sense in any way. That only works in real life, and even then, it's pretty dubious. They aren't even losing any opportunity cost by chasing you, because their finances already take standing defense fleets into account. I'd still love to know what you all plan on doing once the vast, vast majority of the Goonfleet is no longer occupied constantly in Fountain. My guess is that you will find some way to claim victory anyway, and shortly after slink out of the system.
Not sure what I'll do, but I suspect I'll have fun doing it.
You don't give me the impression of having fun. Are you angry at something? Maybe internet spaceships too srs for you. |
Harry Forever
SpaceJunkys
509
|
Posted - 2013.07.26 17:26:00 -
[973] - Quote
Herzog Wolfhammer wrote:Harry Forever wrote:a dramiel, a broadsword, a caldari navy hokbill why are you here?
a heron, a rokh, another gnosis, a new tengu, a tornado on dscan a talos, a sabre flying in??
oh boy, a scimitar, another one... ?? please explain.... Those must be the terrified marketing alts.
they are sure just stuck pixels on my monitor Goons Doomsday Event - 28. July |
Andski
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
8459
|
Posted - 2013.07.26 17:27:00 -
[974] - Quote
it's hilarious that pubbies think that mittens gets back from a round of clubbing baby seals, eating babies and telling grown men to kill themselves only to learn that a 3 month old player is killing his crucial cyno ships in VFK, before ordering his top men Joepopo and Lucas Kell to infiltrate Harry Forever's thread and mislead him to shoot less important targets like 3b ratting ships instead of his war crucial 6m isk cyno frigates Twitter: @EVEAndski
TheMittani.com: The premier source for news, commentary and discussion of EVE Online and other games of interest.-á |
Maximillian German
Spectres Syndicate
30
|
Posted - 2013.07.26 17:31:00 -
[975] - Quote
Herzog Wolfhammer wrote:Kaarous Aldurald wrote:Quote:Ever notice how there are always mice, no matter how many cats there are? Lol what? So, the prey animal will, in nature, deliberately fail to avoid a known predator? No, they go and hide where the cats are not, in whatever rathole they can find, frequently huddled together for warmth. Their only real defense, should simply running away not be an option, is to hope that they are not the chosen target. The origin of "safety in numbers" is that prey animals lessen their individual chances of being picked off that way. Hopefully the meaning isn't lost on you. I suspect it will be, however. Quote:Thereby lies your problem. This is asymmetric warfare. Sure a guy with say, a truck full of TNT can't take down a nation, but if there was one roaming around somewhere everybody will be on edge and everybody without verified ID is suspect. Now you gotta blob everything that's not blue. So, I love you how you think you can just say the magic words "asymmetric warfare" and that somehow makes what you are doing make sense in any way. That only works in real life, and even then, it's pretty dubious. They aren't even losing any opportunity cost by chasing you, because their finances already take standing defense fleets into account. I'd still love to know what you all plan on doing once the vast, vast majority of the Goonfleet is no longer occupied constantly in Fountain. My guess is that you will find some way to claim victory anyway, and shortly after slink out of the system. Not sure what I'll do, but I suspect I'll have fun doing it. You don't give me the impression of having fun. Are you angry at something? Maybe internet spaceships too srs for you.
this
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Harry Forever
SpaceJunkys
509
|
Posted - 2013.07.26 17:31:00 -
[976] - Quote
Andski wrote:it's hilarious that pubbies think that mittens gets back from a round of clubbing baby seals, eating babies and telling grown men to kill themselves only to learn that a 3 month old player is killing his crucial cyno ships in VFK, before ordering his top men Joepopo and Lucas Kell to infiltrate Harry Forever's thread and mislead him to shoot less important targets like 3b ratting ships instead of his war crucial 6m isk cyno frigates
you should explain the ships in VFK not bubbling about mittens Goons Doomsday Event - 28. July |
Andski
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
8459
|
Posted - 2013.07.26 17:33:00 -
[977] - Quote
"goons only attempt to blow other ships up with mittens' approval"
this is what pubbies believe Twitter: @EVEAndski
TheMittani.com: The premier source for news, commentary and discussion of EVE Online and other games of interest.-á |
Maximillian German
Spectres Syndicate
30
|
Posted - 2013.07.26 17:35:00 -
[978] - Quote
Andski wrote:it's hilarious that pubbies think that mittens gets back from a round of clubbing baby seals, eating babies and telling grown men to kill themselves only to learn that a 3 month old player is killing his crucial cyno ships in VFK, before ordering his top men Joepopo and Lucas Kell to infiltrate Harry Forever's thread and mislead him to shoot less important targets like 3b ratting ships instead of his war crucial 6m isk cyno frigates
oh yes, we pubbies could nevar compete with you, the elite PvP master race. The way you kite those ihubs is truly entrancing. It must be so much fun.
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Kaarous Aldurald
ROC Academy The ROC
650
|
Posted - 2013.07.26 17:37:00 -
[979] - Quote
Quote:Not sure what I'll do, but I suspect I'll have fun doing it.
You don't give me the impression of having fun. Are you angry at something? Maybe internet spaceships too srs for you.
I love how you didn't answer the question.
I'll answer yours, though. I like playing EVE. Enough so, in fact, that the current situation of nullsec doesn't agitate me, like it does for you.
Nullsec does seem to irritate you and Harry especially(at least, given your populist rhetoric), I wonder why that is? Not posting on my main, and loving it.-á Because free speech.-á |
Leafar Nightfall
Grease Monkeys
24
|
Posted - 2013.07.26 17:39:00 -
[980] - Quote
It's funny how nothing of this affects the goons, still the thread has started growing faster and faster as 28th approaches
To hell with the combat, seeing how Harry made some goons pissed being a single carebear is already a victory |
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Falin Whalen
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
367
|
Posted - 2013.07.26 17:42:00 -
[981] - Quote
Maximillian German wrote: oh yes, we pubbies could nevar compete with you, the elite PvP master race. The way you kite those ihubs is truly entrancing. It must be so much fun.
We are horrible at PvP, we have stated this since forever, it is just that you are more horrible at PVP than us. You've got to remember that these are just simple miners. These are people of the land. The common clay of New Eden. You know... morons. |
Andski
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
8461
|
Posted - 2013.07.26 17:42:00 -
[982] - Quote
Maximillian German wrote:oh yes, we pubbies could nevar compete with you, the elite PvP master race. The way you kite those ihubs is truly entrancing. It must be so much fun.
1) you can't kite ihubs because unlike towers they'll exit reinforced at the same time regardless of the time they're reinforced 2) reinforcing an ihub has the impact of forcing the defending alliance to actually defend it, unlike blowing up random idiots in cyno ships Twitter: @EVEAndski
TheMittani.com: The premier source for news, commentary and discussion of EVE Online and other games of interest.-á |
Alavaria Fera
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
3885
|
Posted - 2013.07.26 17:46:00 -
[983] - Quote
Andski wrote:Maximillian German wrote:oh yes, we pubbies could nevar compete with you, the elite PvP master race. The way you kite those ihubs is truly entrancing. It must be so much fun. 1) you can't kite ihubs because unlike towers they'll exit reinforced at the same time regardless of the time they're reinforced 2) reinforcing an ihub has the impact of forcing the defending alliance to actually defend it, unlike blowing up random idiots in cyno ships Structures don't get to run away. There are no goons. The goons' 0.0 dream is over. Fountain will never fall. Deklein by September. Thought is not heresy, wrong thought is.
PL, NC., N3, Tribe, 401k, you are our only hope ! ~TEST2013 |
Andski
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
8466
|
Posted - 2013.07.26 17:46:00 -
[984] - Quote
"of course goons fancy themselves elite pvpers. blow up their 5m isk cyno ships to have an impact on the kdr they are so concerned about, that's how you get at the evil goons for wrecking your 300m isk hulk" Twitter: @EVEAndski
TheMittani.com: The premier source for news, commentary and discussion of EVE Online and other games of interest.-á |
Harry Forever
SpaceJunkys
509
|
Posted - 2013.07.26 17:47:00 -
[985] - Quote
Andski wrote:
1) you can't kite ihubs because unlike towers they'll exit reinforced at the same time regardless of the time they're reinforced 2) reinforcing an ihub has the impact of forcing the defending alliance to actually defend it, unlike blowing up random idiots in cyno ships
but why are you reinforcing those cynoships now? just did see a rapier making one with all drones around it, the guy seemed to be scared by something... Goons Doomsday Event - 28. July |
Alavaria Fera
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
3885
|
Posted - 2013.07.26 17:47:00 -
[986] - Quote
Andski wrote:"of course goons fancy themselves elite pvpers. blow up their 5m isk cyno ships to have an impact on the kdr they are so concerned about, that's how you get at the evil goons for wrecking your 300m isk hulk" Is our killboard still green though? There are no goons. The goons' 0.0 dream is over. Fountain will never fall. Deklein by September. Thought is not heresy, wrong thought is.
PL, NC., N3, Tribe, 401k, you are our only hope ! ~TEST2013 |
Andski
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
8466
|
Posted - 2013.07.26 17:50:00 -
[987] - Quote
a prime example of pubbie thought, where anything done by some dudes in an alliance /had/ to come from the highest echelons of leadership
the mittani himself must have ordered people to light their highly important cynos for their ratting carriers in rapiers and use their drones instead of driving the kill/death ratio rock-bottom by losing 5m isk cyno frigates Twitter: @EVEAndski
TheMittani.com: The premier source for news, commentary and discussion of EVE Online and other games of interest.-á |
Falin Whalen
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
368
|
Posted - 2013.07.26 17:57:00 -
[988] - Quote
Andski wrote:a prime example of pubbie thought, where anything done by some dudes in an alliance /had/ to come from the highest echelons of leadership
the mittani himself must have ordered people to light their highly important cynos for their ratting carriers in rapiers and use their drones instead of driving the kill/death ratio rock-bottom by losing 5m isk cyno frigates You mean it doesn't work that way? I've been doing it wrong this whole time. You've got to remember that these are just simple miners. These are people of the land. The common clay of New Eden. You know... morons. |
OldWolf69
IR0N. SpaceMonkey's Alliance
66
|
Posted - 2013.07.26 18:02:00 -
[989] - Quote
Herzog Wolfhammer wrote:Khanh'rhh wrote:Oh, and there aren't "teams" taking him out. If you have dozens of people in the station and a neutral on the undock, then a pretty default reaction, without need for coordination, is going to be to undock and blap it.
You can't on one hand give the "we're fighting a new outnumbered paradigm!" and on the other claim "but they outnumber us, this isn't fair!" Uh, who said it wasn't fair? This is the problem with you nullsec crowd. You are so stuck on this fair and not fair crap you assume that anything anybody does is equally childish and has equally childish reasons. This is why the idea of trespassing on your lawns and peeing on the garden gnome has such appealing butthurt potential. One of the driving forces here is that anybody can do it, and a day comes when thousands are doing what Harry and CO are doing, nullsec becomes what everybody says it is whenever they push their ePeens. (That would be a festering hellhole of unpredictable PVP - that is, the "you are going to die in two seconds" lie gets closer to being the truth for all those who pushed their ePeens and gleefully told the lie). It's not only fair, it's expected. And Harry is still killing ships. Because it's expected, that's why he has dual stabs. I said expect strange fits, didn't I? Whatever new doctrines the goons take on in the future, please do us a favor make sure "getting over yourselves" is one of them. You know, m8? I love ppl making themselves "guru's" on other ppl's work. Harry here does a lot of work. You do a lot of noise. Or call it whatever.
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Herzog Wolfhammer
Sigma Special Tactics Group
3201
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Posted - 2013.07.26 18:03:00 -
[990] - Quote
Alavaria Fera wrote:Andski wrote:Maximillian German wrote:oh yes, we pubbies could nevar compete with you, the elite PvP master race. The way you kite those ihubs is truly entrancing. It must be so much fun. 1) you can't kite ihubs because unlike towers they'll exit reinforced at the same time regardless of the time they're reinforced 2) reinforcing an ihub has the impact of forcing the defending alliance to actually defend it, unlike blowing up random idiots in cyno ships Structures don't get to run away.
Blast. And here I was warp-scrambling them all this time. |
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Andski
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
8466
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Posted - 2013.07.26 18:04:00 -
[991] - Quote
"no no guys disregard the goons and other people who are clearly goon alts telling you why this is a joke, mittens is v. mad about the fact that I destroyed 300m isk worth of his cyno ships in two months and he sent his crack team of forum warriors to dissuade us from utterly destroying their war effort 2 jdc5 carrier midpoints away from VFK by killing cyno ships after caps have already jumped to them" Twitter: @EVEAndski
TheMittani.com: The premier source for news, commentary and discussion of EVE Online and other games of interest.-á |
Herzog Wolfhammer
Sigma Special Tactics Group
3201
|
Posted - 2013.07.26 18:06:00 -
[992] - Quote
Kaarous Aldurald wrote:Quote:Not sure what I'll do, but I suspect I'll have fun doing it.
You don't give me the impression of having fun. Are you angry at something? Maybe internet spaceships too srs for you. I love how you didn't answer the question. I'll answer yours, though. I like playing EVE. Enough so, in fact, that the current situation of nullsec doesn't agitate me, like it does for you. Nullsec does seem to irritate you and Harry especially(at least, given your populist rhetoric), I wonder why that is?
Populist? Irritated?
Stick to taking orders and tackling please. |
Raff Axus
JSR1 AND GOLDEN GUARDIAN PRODUCTIONS SpaceMonkey's Alliance
0
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Posted - 2013.07.26 18:06:00 -
[993] - Quote
Leafar Nightfall wrote:Ustrello wrote: So you ask him to ship down to a smaller ship than you how honorable of you.
Harry forever a coward through and through
C'mon, be honest to yourself, would you be calling him brave or stupid if he engaged? You'll find reasons to bash Harry anyway. And if you care so much about that, I can imagine how butthurt the pilot was after Harry avoided him. Whatever is being done here, it sure is working. To add context to this, I was in an omen I had just thrown together from spares. I offered a straight 1 on 1. He refused to fight anything other than a frigate. So If he was only willing to fight down a grade, so was I. Pointing out tengus on your D-scan is great and all but can you find them and kill them? and are they goons or neuts? and are the in a POS? These are all questions that determine how many active targets you have. |
Kaarous Aldurald
ROC Academy The ROC
650
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Posted - 2013.07.26 18:08:00 -
[994] - Quote
Herzog Wolfhammer wrote:Kaarous Aldurald wrote:Quote:Not sure what I'll do, but I suspect I'll have fun doing it.
You don't give me the impression of having fun. Are you angry at something? Maybe internet spaceships too srs for you. I love how you didn't answer the question. I'll answer yours, though. I like playing EVE. Enough so, in fact, that the current situation of nullsec doesn't agitate me, like it does for you. Nullsec does seem to irritate you and Harry especially(at least, given your populist rhetoric), I wonder why that is? Populist? Irritated? Stick to taking orders and tackling please.
You do realize I am not a Goon, right? I just happen to think that you all are morons, and that you're deluding yourselves if you think you are making any kind of impact. Not posting on my main, and loving it.-á Because free speech.-á |
Herzog Wolfhammer
Sigma Special Tactics Group
3201
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Posted - 2013.07.26 18:09:00 -
[995] - Quote
OldWolf69 wrote:Herzog Wolfhammer wrote:Khanh'rhh wrote:Oh, and there aren't "teams" taking him out. If you have dozens of people in the station and a neutral on the undock, then a pretty default reaction, without need for coordination, is going to be to undock and blap it.
You can't on one hand give the "we're fighting a new outnumbered paradigm!" and on the other claim "but they outnumber us, this isn't fair!" Uh, who said it wasn't fair? This is the problem with you nullsec crowd. You are so stuck on this fair and not fair crap you assume that anything anybody does is equally childish and has equally childish reasons. This is why the idea of trespassing on your lawns and peeing on the garden gnome has such appealing butthurt potential. One of the driving forces here is that anybody can do it, and a day comes when thousands are doing what Harry and CO are doing, nullsec becomes what everybody says it is whenever they push their ePeens. (That would be a festering hellhole of unpredictable PVP - that is, the "you are going to die in two seconds" lie gets closer to being the truth for all those who pushed their ePeens and gleefully told the lie). It's not only fair, it's expected. And Harry is still killing ships. Because it's expected, that's why he has dual stabs. I said expect strange fits, didn't I? Whatever new doctrines the goons take on in the future, please do us a favor make sure "getting over yourselves" is one of them. You know, m8? I love ppl making themselves "guru's" on other ppl's work. Harry here does a lot of work. You do a lot of noise. Or call it whatever.
You know not of my role in this.
But go ahead and make the usual assumptions in the usual response I can expect around here. I can understand why Harry is blocking people.
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Alt Elongur
We Don't Like Bullies
31
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Posted - 2013.07.26 18:09:00 -
[996] - Quote
Andski wrote:a prime example of pubbie thought, where anything done by some dudes in an alliance /had/ to come from the highest echelons of leadership
the mittani himself must have ordered people to light their highly important cynos for their ratting carriers in rapiers and use their drones instead of driving the kill/death ratio rock-bottom by losing 5m isk cyno frigates
Wait a sec. You need carriers to rat?
Bwwwwahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahhahahahahahahhahahahahahhaa! This alt will self destruct in 10 seconds. |
Herzog Wolfhammer
Sigma Special Tactics Group
3201
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Posted - 2013.07.26 18:11:00 -
[997] - Quote
Kaarous Aldurald wrote:Herzog Wolfhammer wrote:Kaarous Aldurald wrote:Quote:Not sure what I'll do, but I suspect I'll have fun doing it.
You don't give me the impression of having fun. Are you angry at something? Maybe internet spaceships too srs for you. I love how you didn't answer the question. I'll answer yours, though. I like playing EVE. Enough so, in fact, that the current situation of nullsec doesn't agitate me, like it does for you. Nullsec does seem to irritate you and Harry especially(at least, given your populist rhetoric), I wonder why that is? Populist? Irritated? Stick to taking orders and tackling please. You do realize I am not a Goon, right? I just happen to think that you all are morons, and that you're deluding yourselves if you think you are making any kind of impact.
That means in some manner you are a victim of goons, or too afraid of them, and like anybody with Stockholm syndrome, you defend your nemesis.
Knock down the cubicle! Break free! Join us!
We have cookies. Much better than SOV. |
Herzog Wolfhammer
Sigma Special Tactics Group
3201
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Posted - 2013.07.26 18:13:00 -
[998] - Quote
Alt Elongur wrote:Andski wrote:a prime example of pubbie thought, where anything done by some dudes in an alliance /had/ to come from the highest echelons of leadership
the mittani himself must have ordered people to light their highly important cynos for their ratting carriers in rapiers and use their drones instead of driving the kill/death ratio rock-bottom by losing 5m isk cyno frigates Wait a sec. You need carriers to rat? Bwwwwahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahhahahahahahahhahahahahahhaa!
I used to take an exploration fit Cyclone to nullsec and rat. Never lost a ship doing that.
It had only 3 missile launchers on it and 5 small drones. |
Maximillian German
Spectres Syndicate
30
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Posted - 2013.07.26 18:13:00 -
[999] - Quote
Harry only said that cyno ships were being reinforced, not that it was a top down decision. Train reading comprehension, etc, etc. My question, though, is this: what did harry do to you guys that sent you ranting and 'sperging all up and down these forums about pubbies and cyno ships? I knew his plan was to hit you from behind, but I didn't think you'd be quite that tender. Anyway, I know you guys aren't really the helpful type, but if you're going to cry, would you mind doing it into my bucket? Don't need you getting the floor all salty. |
Harry Forever
SpaceJunkys
510
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Posted - 2013.07.26 18:15:00 -
[1000] - Quote
OldWolf69 wrote:Herzog Wolfhammer wrote:Khanh'rhh wrote:Oh, and there aren't "teams" taking him out. If you have dozens of people in the station and a neutral on the undock, then a pretty default reaction, without need for coordination, is going to be to undock and blap it.
You can't on one hand give the "we're fighting a new outnumbered paradigm!" and on the other claim "but they outnumber us, this isn't fair!" Uh, who said it wasn't fair? This is the problem with you nullsec crowd. You are so stuck on this fair and not fair crap you assume that anything anybody does is equally childish and has equally childish reasons. This is why the idea of trespassing on your lawns and peeing on the garden gnome has such appealing butthurt potential. One of the driving forces here is that anybody can do it, and a day comes when thousands are doing what Harry and CO are doing, nullsec becomes what everybody says it is whenever they push their ePeens. (That would be a festering hellhole of unpredictable PVP - that is, the "you are going to die in two seconds" lie gets closer to being the truth for all those who pushed their ePeens and gleefully told the lie). It's not only fair, it's expected. And Harry is still killing ships. Because it's expected, that's why he has dual stabs. I said expect strange fits, didn't I? Whatever new doctrines the goons take on in the future, please do us a favor make sure "getting over yourselves" is one of them. You know, m8? I love ppl making themselves "guru's" on other ppl's work. Harry here does a lot of work. You do a lot of noise. Or call it whatever.
hey Wolf, Herzog is fine he's an early supporter, all cynokilling catalysts are out of his production, without his help on the forum and ingame I would have quit long ago... the skilltraining on some mains and alts is holding us back a bit, but we all fly in bombers soon blasting superexpensive stuff in VFK to assure everybody is happy... Goons Doomsday Event - 28. July |
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Andski
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
8466
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Posted - 2013.07.26 18:16:00 -
[1001] - Quote
Alt Elongur wrote:Wait a sec. You need carriers to rat?
Bwwwwahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahhahahahahahahhahahahahahhaa!
i personally don't bother with that but they're great for giving black legion stuff to drop blackops BS on
I'd drop my super on them myself but those ratting carriers are usually future nyxes and i don't need a bunch of GSF nyx pilots avenging their carriers Twitter: @EVEAndski
TheMittani.com: The premier source for news, commentary and discussion of EVE Online and other games of interest.-á |
Andski
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
8466
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Posted - 2013.07.26 18:19:00 -
[1002] - Quote
Harry Forever wrote:hey Wolf, Herzog is fine he's an early supporter, all cynokilling catalysts are out of his production, without his help on the forum and ingame I would have quit long ago... the skilltraining on some mains and alts is holding us back a bit, but we all fly in bombers soon blasting superexpensive stuff in VFK to assure everybody is happy...
i can predict that any "carebear incursion into nullsec " planned is going to fail when it starts with "create an alt"
if you don't care enough about it to use a skilled main against much more experienced nullsec pilots using their own skilled mains you're not going to succeed, period Twitter: @EVEAndski
TheMittani.com: The premier source for news, commentary and discussion of EVE Online and other games of interest.-á |
Alt Elongur
We Don't Like Bullies
34
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Posted - 2013.07.26 18:20:00 -
[1003] - Quote
Herzog Wolfhammer wrote:Alt Elongur wrote:Andski wrote:a prime example of pubbie thought, where anything done by some dudes in an alliance /had/ to come from the highest echelons of leadership
the mittani himself must have ordered people to light their highly important cynos for their ratting carriers in rapiers and use their drones instead of driving the kill/death ratio rock-bottom by losing 5m isk cyno frigates Wait a sec. You need carriers to rat? Bwwwwahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahhahahahahahahhahahahahahhaa! I used to take an exploration fit Cyclone to nullsec and rat. Never lost a ship doing that. It had only 3 missile launchers on it and 5 small drones.
This "rat carrier" news has inspired my employer to get more directly involved in Round 2. We will prepare accordingly.
This alt will self destruct in 10 seconds. |
Harry Forever
SpaceJunkys
512
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Posted - 2013.07.26 18:20:00 -
[1004] - Quote
Raff Axus wrote:Leafar Nightfall wrote:Ustrello wrote: So you ask him to ship down to a smaller ship than you how honorable of you.
Harry forever a coward through and through
C'mon, be honest to yourself, would you be calling him brave or stupid if he engaged? You'll find reasons to bash Harry anyway. And if you care so much about that, I can imagine how butthurt the pilot was after Harry avoided him. Whatever is being done here, it sure is working. To add context to this, I was in an omen I had just thrown together from spares. I offered a straight 1 on 1. He refused to fight anything other than a frigate. So If he was only willing to fight down a grade, so was I. Pointing out tengus on your D-scan is great and all but can you find them and kill them? and are they goons or neuts? and are the in a POS? These are all questions that determine how many active targets you have.
oh boy, did I make you sad? I told you you can come in a thrasher... however I would not have come to duel because you people are known not to fight honorable and always have friends near bye, anyway, I don't like to do things what others tell me in addition you know.... but you can sit up and beg no problem
beside that, all targets i told today have been infront of the station, I'm cloaked up there... except that one on dscan Goons Doomsday Event - 28. July |
Maximillian German
Spectres Syndicate
32
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Posted - 2013.07.26 18:22:00 -
[1005] - Quote
Andski wrote:Harry Forever wrote:hey Wolf, Herzog is fine he's an early supporter, all cynokilling catalysts are out of his production, without his help on the forum and ingame I would have quit long ago... the skilltraining on some mains and alts is holding us back a bit, but we all fly in bombers soon blasting superexpensive stuff in VFK to assure everybody is happy... i can predict that any "carebear incursion into nullsec " planned is going to fail when it starts with "create an alt" if you don't care enough about it to use a skilled main against much more experienced nullsec pilots using their own skilled mains you're not going to succeed, period
Depends on who's definition of success you're using. Are we going to take over VFK? No way in hell. We have neither the ships nor the time. But it will be fun. And if we get some carebears to try out nullsec, then it's a victory in my mind. |
Kaarous Aldurald
ROC Academy The ROC
650
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Posted - 2013.07.26 18:25:00 -
[1006] - Quote
Quote:That means in some manner you are a victim of goons, or too afraid of them, and like anybody with Stockholm syndrome, you defend your nemesis.
Knock down the cubicle! Break free! Join us!
We have cookies. Much better than SOV.
You do know, that every time you buy something from the market, someone has been victimized, right? This is EVE, everyone is everyone else's victim.
I don't know why you think it's so binary, though. If I'm not a Goon, then I am afraid of them, unless I join you, right? (The fact that I simply do not care seems to have escaped you)
Sounds a lot like the pitch for Scientology to me. Tell someone that you can tell how unhappy they are, and oh by the way, we happen to have the solution, for the low low price of...
Not posting on my main, and loving it.-á Because free speech.-á |
Harry Forever
SpaceJunkys
512
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Posted - 2013.07.26 18:26:00 -
[1007] - Quote
Andski wrote:Harry Forever wrote:hey Wolf, Herzog is fine he's an early supporter, all cynokilling catalysts are out of his production, without his help on the forum and ingame I would have quit long ago... the skilltraining on some mains and alts is holding us back a bit, but we all fly in bombers soon blasting superexpensive stuff in VFK to assure everybody is happy... i can predict that any "carebear incursion into nullsec " planned is going to fail when it starts with "create an alt" if you don't care enough about it to use a skilled main against much more experienced nullsec pilots using their own skilled mains you're not going to succeed, period
I'm using my main, what are you bubbling about? some of us have mains who need to pay big amount of ISK for the insurance, again you don't understand much how we approach this thing... some use their alts to gather some experience first Goons Doomsday Event - 28. July |
Maximillian German
Spectres Syndicate
32
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Posted - 2013.07.26 18:26:00 -
[1008] - Quote
Kaarous Aldurald wrote:Quote:That means in some manner you are a victim of goons, or too afraid of them, and like anybody with Stockholm syndrome, you defend your nemesis.
Knock down the cubicle! Break free! Join us!
We have cookies. Much better than SOV. You do know, that every time you buy something from the market, someone has been victimized, right? This is EVE, everyone is everyone else's victim. I don't know why you think it's so binary, though. If I'm not a Goon, then I am afraid of them, unless I join you, right? (The fact that I simply do not care seems to have escaped you) Sounds a lot like the pitch for Scientology to me. Tell someone that you can tell how unhappy they are, and oh by the way, we happen to have the solution, for the low low price of...
the price of what? Where is the multistep program to bring you closer to happiness? |
Andski
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
8466
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Posted - 2013.07.26 18:32:00 -
[1009] - Quote
Maximillian German wrote:Depends on who's definition of success you're using. Are we going to take over VFK? No way in hell. We have neither the ships nor the time. But it will be fun. And if we get some carebears to try out nullsec, then it's a victory in my mind.
SBUing and reinforcing a system would be "hitting us from behind" and you don't need a blob of capitals or supers or to do that, just 10-20 bored bomber/BC pilots
i'd argue that making a group move a fleet back home to deal with the timer has more of an impact than killing some goddamn cyno ships, but you'd probably have to use your mains to do that kind of thing, god forbid your isk/hr on evehq goes down Twitter: @EVEAndski
TheMittani.com: The premier source for news, commentary and discussion of EVE Online and other games of interest.-á |
Kaarous Aldurald
ROC Academy The ROC
650
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Posted - 2013.07.26 18:34:00 -
[1010] - Quote
Maximillian German wrote:Kaarous Aldurald wrote:Quote:That means in some manner you are a victim of goons, or too afraid of them, and like anybody with Stockholm syndrome, you defend your nemesis.
Knock down the cubicle! Break free! Join us!
We have cookies. Much better than SOV. You do know, that every time you buy something from the market, someone has been victimized, right? This is EVE, everyone is everyone else's victim. I don't know why you think it's so binary, though. If I'm not a Goon, then I am afraid of them, unless I join you, right? (The fact that I simply do not care seems to have escaped you) Sounds a lot like the pitch for Scientology to me. Tell someone that you can tell how unhappy they are, and oh by the way, we happen to have the solution, for the low low price of... the price of what? Where is the multistep program to bring you closer to happiness?
For them? Dianetics. I wouldn't suggest it though, tends to turn you into a zombie, or Tom Cruise, not sure which is worse.
If you would prefer a more EVE-oriented road to happiness, let me offer another path. Not posting on my main, and loving it.-á Because free speech.-á |
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Herzog Wolfhammer
Sigma Special Tactics Group
3204
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Posted - 2013.07.26 18:37:00 -
[1011] - Quote
Andski wrote:Harry Forever wrote:hey Wolf, Herzog is fine he's an early supporter, all cynokilling catalysts are out of his production, without his help on the forum and ingame I would have quit long ago... the skilltraining on some mains and alts is holding us back a bit, but we all fly in bombers soon blasting superexpensive stuff in VFK to assure everybody is happy... i can predict that any "carebear incursion into nullsec " planned is going to fail when it starts with "create an alt" if you don't care enough about it to use a skilled main against much more experienced nullsec pilots using their own skilled mains you're not going to succeed, period
That's actually a point I want to seriously address.
One of the most daunting things for new players is the SP gap. But the overall SP system is designed against this. I've seen too many complaints from new players trying their hand of PVP and thinking they came up against a "super frigate", finding out it's because of SP, and they either leave, or fall into the "accumulate SP for years while grinding and be bored to death" experience we see a lot of.
I am using an alt because instead of just preaching about the SP system and how to be effective faster, while sitting on 10s of millions of randomly scattered SP (I can shield and armor tank and have skills for ships I never had, but only fly one ship at a time. Big deal), I need to see firsthand what new players and alts will face.
Difficult? Yes indeed. What I have found is that doing the research into how and what you want to fly, and what SP path would best serve getting the maximum firepower from it, is not as easy done as said, but it can be done. The real challenge here is not to be tricked off the path by transient needs. For example, if one finds they are jammed a lot, do they train ECCM or use drones/FOF?
So there are challenging little crossroads, and on that road, not picking up too much speed is also important. Getting racial frigate to 3 creates a choice: go on with frigate or go to destroyer (for many this is obvious: Destroyer at 5 only means dictor, frigate at 5 means SB, intie, AF, etc), but the decision must be made at that point. But what I find about not going too fast - is the actual experience. Someone looking to create a mission alt in say Gallente space is not going to get jammed like they would in Caldari space (Guristas like to deliver the raspberry alright). In PVP, the habits of where you PVP would be the most transient of all, since one person may go with ewar, and another with nuets or raw DPS. Do we cling to the bonuses of the hull at this point or adapt to the environment? The former could leave a defensive hole, the latter could lead to spreading out the SP que and delaying the arrival time of effective goals.
So to make it all about how many SP is the old hat way of boxing in new players and wrecking their game (without having to shoot them even). We are trying to hone the use of SP against this so people can get into PVP earlier. I recall that even the goons have some thinking along these lines. |
Maximillian German
Spectres Syndicate
32
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Posted - 2013.07.26 18:45:00 -
[1012] - Quote
Andski wrote:Maximillian German wrote:Depends on who's definition of success you're using. Are we going to take over VFK? No way in hell. We have neither the ships nor the time. But it will be fun. And if we get some carebears to try out nullsec, then it's a victory in my mind. SBUing and reinforcing a system would be "hitting us from behind" and you don't need a blob of capitals or supers or to do that, just 10-20 bored bomber/BC pilots i'd argue that making a group move a fleet back home to deal with the timer has more of an impact than killing some goddamn cyno ships, but you'd probably have to use your mains to do that kind of thing, god forbid your isk/hr on evehq goes down
Lol? I can't speak for the others, but this is my main. And I don't know about the other bears, but I would have to say that I have yet to worry about isk/hour in my eve career. I go to lowsec, lose some ships, run some incursions, and repeat. I'm just coming along for the chance to check out nullsec. I've lived in Lowsec and wormhole space, so this is kind of the last frontier for me. But that SBU idea is definitely worth considering if this even happens again. Also, to reinforce a system, do you have to do anything other than online some SBU's? |
Andski
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
8466
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Posted - 2013.07.26 18:52:00 -
[1013] - Quote
Maximillian German wrote:But that SBU idea is definitely worth considering if this even happens again. Also, to reinforce a system, do you have to do anything other than online some SBU's?
Yes, you have to anchor SBUs on at least half of the gates, online them, babysit them for 3 hours while they online, find which planet the ihub is online at, and then shoot the ihub with a bunch of ships until it's in reinforced and you can no longer lock it.
Of course this isn't something you can do alone unless you can multibox a dozen supers or several dozen bombers/battlecruisers, and you certainly don't want to do this in a station system because that means you'll have to reinforce the station as well. 20-30 dudes in bombers or tier 3 battlecruisers who have some time to spare can reinforce an ihub easily. Twitter: @EVEAndski
TheMittani.com: The premier source for news, commentary and discussion of EVE Online and other games of interest.-á |
Khergit Deserters
Crom's Angels
1400
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Posted - 2013.07.26 19:14:00 -
[1014] - Quote
Andski wrote:Maximillian German wrote:But that SBU idea is definitely worth considering if this even happens again. Also, to reinforce a system, do you have to do anything other than online some SBU's? Yes, you have to anchor SBUs on at least half of the gates, online them, babysit them for 3 hours while they online, find which planet the ihub is online at, and then shoot the ihub with a bunch of ships until it's in reinforced and you can no longer lock it. Of course this isn't something you can do alone unless you can multibox a dozen supers or several dozen bombers/battlecruisers, and you certainly don't want to do this in a station system because that means you'll have to reinforce the station as well. 20-30 dudes in bombers or tier 3 battlecruisers who have some time to spare can reinforce an ihub easily. Then note the timer on the ihub. When it comes out, you probably have no intention of taking the system (because you'll have to shoot through the ihub a second time, and then a third time, then kill the TCU, then babysit your own onlining TCUs, then titan bridge a freighter into the system to drop and online an ihub) but you can easily camp the route to the system to kill stragglers from the fleet going there to cover carriers repping the ihub. Thanks (and not being sarcastic there). There have been some actually informative posts from the opposition in this thread. But somehow recently this thread has gotten kind of ranty and hysterical.... Anyway, maybe an SBU op will be put together sometime, who knows? One thing at a time, we're not in a hurry, we'll be around. |
symolan
BamBam Inc.
25
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Posted - 2013.07.26 19:18:00 -
[1015] - Quote
Kaarous Aldurald wrote:
"safety in numbers"
Hopefully the meaning isn't lost on you. I suspect it will be, however.
I'd still love to know what you all plan on doing once the vast, vast majority of the Goonfleet is no longer occupied constantly in Fountain.
The irony was not lost on me. |
Kaarous Aldurald
ROC Academy The ROC
654
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Posted - 2013.07.26 19:27:00 -
[1016] - Quote
symolan wrote:Kaarous Aldurald wrote:
"safety in numbers"
Hopefully the meaning isn't lost on you. I suspect it will be, however.
I'd still love to know what you all plan on doing once the vast, vast majority of the Goonfleet is no longer occupied constantly in Fountain.
The irony was not lost on me.
Then, you saw the part you cut out, right?
The part where I explain that most modern use of the term "safety in numbers" doesn't refer to group warfare, but rather a group of prey animals hoping to not be picked off? You know, the kind of pathetic, easily frightened, run-if-they-see-you bunch of deer?
Like highsec miners.
Seriously, it is really funny to see them scatter when you land a catalyst on grid. It's like turning on the light in a cheap motel bathroom and the bugs all run and hide. Not posting on my main, and loving it.-á Because free speech.-á |
Khergit Deserters
Crom's Angels
1400
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Posted - 2013.07.26 19:28:00 -
[1017] - Quote
Raff Axus wrote:Leafar Nightfall wrote:Ustrello wrote: So you ask him to ship down to a smaller ship than you how honorable of you.
Harry forever a coward through and through
C'mon, be honest to yourself, would you be calling him brave or stupid if he engaged? You'll find reasons to bash Harry anyway. And if you care so much about that, I can imagine how butthurt the pilot was after Harry avoided him. Whatever is being done here, it sure is working. To add context to this, I was in an omen I had just thrown together from spares. I offered a straight 1 on 1. He refused to fight anything other than a frigate. So If he was only willing to fight down a grade, so was I. Pointing out tengus on your D-scan is great and all but can you find them and kill them? and are they goons or neuts? and are the in a POS? These are all questions that determine how many active targets you have. Would you yourself trust a Goon to do a straight 1v1? With a low-SP char, deep inside the Goons' basement? Isn't trusting Goons one of the things that gets your story posted somewhere? For everybody to get a good laugh at? Maybe you would have honored the 1v1, but I wouldn't have taken that offer either. |
Raff Axus
JSR1 AND GOLDEN GUARDIAN PRODUCTIONS SpaceMonkey's Alliance
0
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Posted - 2013.07.26 19:33:00 -
[1018] - Quote
Khergit Deserters wrote:Raff Axus wrote:Leafar Nightfall wrote:Ustrello wrote: So you ask him to ship down to a smaller ship than you how honorable of you.
Harry forever a coward through and through
C'mon, be honest to yourself, would you be calling him brave or stupid if he engaged? You'll find reasons to bash Harry anyway. And if you care so much about that, I can imagine how butthurt the pilot was after Harry avoided him. Whatever is being done here, it sure is working. To add context to this, I was in an omen I had just thrown together from spares. I offered a straight 1 on 1. He refused to fight anything other than a frigate. So If he was only willing to fight down a grade, so was I. Pointing out tengus on your D-scan is great and all but can you find them and kill them? and are they goons or neuts? and are the in a POS? These are all questions that determine how many active targets you have. Would you yourself trust a Goon to do a straight 1v1? With a low-SP char, deep inside the Goons' basement? Isn't trusting Goons one of the things that gets your story posted somewhere? For everybody to get a good laugh at? Maybe you would have honored the 1v1, but I wouldn't have taken that offer either. I'm SMA, and I'm an honourable guy. I was even willing to join his fleet (so he could see I was alone) and warp to him (so noone could warp to us without probes) |
Khergit Deserters
Crom's Angels
1400
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Posted - 2013.07.26 19:41:00 -
[1019] - Quote
Raff Axus wrote:Khergit Deserters wrote:Raff Axus wrote:Leafar Nightfall wrote:Ustrello wrote: So you ask him to ship down to a smaller ship than you how honorable of you.
Harry forever a coward through and through
C'mon, be honest to yourself, would you be calling him brave or stupid if he engaged? You'll find reasons to bash Harry anyway. And if you care so much about that, I can imagine how butthurt the pilot was after Harry avoided him. Whatever is being done here, it sure is working. To add context to this, I was in an omen I had just thrown together from spares. I offered a straight 1 on 1. He refused to fight anything other than a frigate. So If he was only willing to fight down a grade, so was I. Pointing out tengus on your D-scan is great and all but can you find them and kill them? and are they goons or neuts? and are the in a POS? These are all questions that determine how many active targets you have. Would you yourself trust a Goon to do a straight 1v1? With a low-SP char, deep inside the Goons' basement? Isn't trusting Goons one of the things that gets your story posted somewhere? For everybody to get a good laugh at? Maybe you would have honored the 1v1, but I wouldn't have taken that offer either. I'm SMA, and I'm an honourable guy. I was even willing to join his fleet (so he could see I was alone) and warp to him (so noone could warp to us without probes) OK, no offense intended. Maybe someday when I know null personalities better I'd take that fight. But probably not. 1v1s just seem like testing fit vs. fit and SPs vs. SPs to me. |
Maximillian German
Spectres Syndicate
36
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Posted - 2013.07.26 19:43:00 -
[1020] - Quote
Kaarous Aldurald wrote:symolan wrote:Kaarous Aldurald wrote:
"safety in numbers"
Hopefully the meaning isn't lost on you. I suspect it will be, however.
I'd still love to know what you all plan on doing once the vast, vast majority of the Goonfleet is no longer occupied constantly in Fountain.
The irony was not lost on me. Then, you saw the part you cut out, right? The part where I explain that most modern use of the term "safety in numbers" doesn't refer to group warfare, but rather a group of prey animals hoping to not be picked off? You know, the kind of pathetic, easily frightened, run-if-they-see-you bunch of deer? Like highsec miners. Seriously, it is really funny to see them scatter when you land a catalyst on grid. It's like turning on the light in a cheap motel bathroom and the bugs all run and hide.
So you brought a catalyst, arguably the best know gank ship besides the 'nado, and warped in on a bunch of miners, the best know prey of the catayst, right? And you are surprised they warped off? Please go stroke your epeen elsewhere |
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Kaarous Aldurald
ROC Academy The ROC
654
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Posted - 2013.07.26 19:47:00 -
[1021] - Quote
Quote:So you brought a catalyst, arguably the best know gank ship besides the 'nado, and warped in on a bunch of miners, the best know prey of the catayst, right? And you are surprised they warped off? Please go stroke your epeen elsewhere
Tut, tut. I neither said I was surprised, nor that it was about my ego.
I said it was funny(in fact it's hilarious), and a great example of herd animal behavior.
Not posting on my main, and loving it.-á Because free speech.-á |
Herzog Wolfhammer
Sigma Special Tactics Group
3207
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Posted - 2013.07.26 19:49:00 -
[1022] - Quote
Kaarous Aldurald wrote:symolan wrote:Kaarous Aldurald wrote:
"safety in numbers"
Hopefully the meaning isn't lost on you. I suspect it will be, however.
I'd still love to know what you all plan on doing once the vast, vast majority of the Goonfleet is no longer occupied constantly in Fountain.
The irony was not lost on me. Then, you saw the part you cut out, right? The part where I explain that most modern use of the term "safety in numbers" doesn't refer to group warfare, but rather a group of prey animals hoping to not be picked off? You know, the kind of pathetic, easily frightened, run-if-they-see-you bunch of deer? Like highsec miners. Seriously, it is really funny to see them scatter when you land a catalyst on grid. It's like turning on the light in a cheap motel bathroom and the bugs all run and hide.
That's interesting because I have seen gate campers and roving gangs run for their stark fear of getting individually killed. Sure, they can overpower a lone ship, but even that the prey might focus fire and take one with him is too much for people engaged in this fear of loss that is equal with a player who sweats at thought of leaving highsec. |
Kaarous Aldurald
ROC Academy The ROC
654
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Posted - 2013.07.26 20:20:00 -
[1023] - Quote
Herzog Wolfhammer wrote:Kaarous Aldurald wrote:symolan wrote:Kaarous Aldurald wrote:
"safety in numbers"
Hopefully the meaning isn't lost on you. I suspect it will be, however.
I'd still love to know what you all plan on doing once the vast, vast majority of the Goonfleet is no longer occupied constantly in Fountain.
The irony was not lost on me. Then, you saw the part you cut out, right? The part where I explain that most modern use of the term "safety in numbers" doesn't refer to group warfare, but rather a group of prey animals hoping to not be picked off? You know, the kind of pathetic, easily frightened, run-if-they-see-you bunch of deer? Like highsec miners. Seriously, it is really funny to see them scatter when you land a catalyst on grid. It's like turning on the light in a cheap motel bathroom and the bugs all run and hide. That's interesting because I have seen gate campers and roving gangs run for their stark fear of getting individually killed. Sure, they can overpower a lone ship, but even that the prey might focus fire and take one with him is too much for people engaged in this fear of loss that is equal with a player who sweats at thought of leaving highsec.
O...k? That doesn't have anything to do with it. Hell, I've seen people cut and run because we accidentally fleet warped a cruiser gang half their size onto them at zero, under their guns (best whoops ever.) And I've seen 3 month old new players take fire from a Moros in a PoS bash and not run.
Just denotes a lack of fleet discipline on the part of the guys you mentioned.
The really fascinating interactions come from miners though. They're a breed of amusement singularly unique among players. Not posting on my main, and loving it.-á Because free speech.-á |
Herzog Wolfhammer
Sigma Special Tactics Group
3209
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Posted - 2013.07.26 20:28:00 -
[1024] - Quote
Kaarous Aldurald wrote:Herzog Wolfhammer wrote:Kaarous Aldurald wrote:symolan wrote:Kaarous Aldurald wrote:
"safety in numbers"
Hopefully the meaning isn't lost on you. I suspect it will be, however.
I'd still love to know what you all plan on doing once the vast, vast majority of the Goonfleet is no longer occupied constantly in Fountain.
The irony was not lost on me. Then, you saw the part you cut out, right? The part where I explain that most modern use of the term "safety in numbers" doesn't refer to group warfare, but rather a group of prey animals hoping to not be picked off? You know, the kind of pathetic, easily frightened, run-if-they-see-you bunch of deer? Like highsec miners. Seriously, it is really funny to see them scatter when you land a catalyst on grid. It's like turning on the light in a cheap motel bathroom and the bugs all run and hide. That's interesting because I have seen gate campers and roving gangs run for their stark fear of getting individually killed. Sure, they can overpower a lone ship, but even that the prey might focus fire and take one with him is too much for people engaged in this fear of loss that is equal with a player who sweats at thought of leaving highsec. O...k? That doesn't have anything to do with it. Hell, I've seen people cut and run because we accidentally fleet warped a cruiser gang half their size onto them at zero, under their guns (best whoops ever.) And I've seen 3 month old new players take fire from a Moros in a PoS bash and not run. Just denotes a lack of fleet discipline on the part of the guys you mentioned. The really fascinating interactions come from miners though. They're a breed of amusement singularly unique among players.
So you are comparing miners to a combat fleet and relishing in the results? Son you need to get out more. |
Kaarous Aldurald
ROC Academy The ROC
654
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Posted - 2013.07.26 20:36:00 -
[1025] - Quote
Quote:So you are comparing miners to a combat fleet and relishing in the results? Son you need to get out more.
Far from it. I'm not comparing them at all, I distinctly stated that they were separate.
I enjoy both considerably.
But I am saying that you can get a much more controlled and measurable result from miners, since they are more or less always the same situation.
You warp in, they run, they hurl insults in local (even if no one died or was even locked up). The variety of their insults is also truly hilarious, typically with poor grammar and spelling, but they have some inventive stuff to call you. Not posting on my main, and loving it.-á Because free speech.-á |
Falin Whalen
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
370
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Posted - 2013.07.26 21:10:00 -
[1026] - Quote
Well this thread took a sudden detour. You've got to remember that these are just simple miners. These are people of the land. The common clay of New Eden. You know... morons. |
Alavaria Fera
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
3885
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Posted - 2013.07.26 22:28:00 -
[1027] - Quote
Kaarous Aldurald wrote:You warp in, they run, they hurl insults in local (even if no one died or was even locked up). The variety of their insults is also truly hilarious, typically with poor grammar and spelling, but they have some inventive stuff to call you. They can't make their isk while you're there, of course you've done them an injury. There are no goons. The goons' 0.0 dream is over. Fountain will never fall. Deklein by September. Thought is not heresy, wrong thought is.
PL, NC., N3, Tribe, 401k, you are our only hope ! ~TEST2013 |
Herzog Wolfhammer
Sigma Special Tactics Group
3209
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Posted - 2013.07.26 23:22:00 -
[1028] - Quote
Wow I just learned nullsec gate bubbleblobbers don't like being haunted by stealth bombers. C'mon guys lighten up.
You'd think a sharkfin just popped up or something. |
Khanh'rhh
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
2003
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Posted - 2013.07.27 01:34:00 -
[1029] - Quote
no one likes being haunted because movies are a lie and bill murray doesn't turn up to help you out "Do not touch anything unnecessarily. Beware of pretty girls in dance halls and parks who may be spies, as well as bicycles, revolvers, uniforms, arms, dead horses, and men lying on roads -- they are not there accidentally." -Soviet infantry manual, issued in the 1930 |
Alt Elongur
We Don't Like Bullies
34
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Posted - 2013.07.27 12:49:00 -
[1030] - Quote
The sudden silence is deafening. This alt will self destruct in 10 seconds. |
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Harry Forever
SpaceJunkys
515
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Posted - 2013.07.27 14:59:00 -
[1031] - Quote
Alt Elongur wrote:The sudden silence is deafening.
:D here it's going on https://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=posts&t=263037&find=unread
I kicked a guy from the spacejunkys chat after he told me our goons doomsday event is lame
he ragequit put a 25m bounty on my head and opend this thread...
:')
Goons Doomsday Event - 28. July |
Cannibal Kane
Somali Coast Guard Authority
2123
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Posted - 2013.07.27 15:12:00 -
[1032] - Quote
So... How many goons have you managed to kill? "I saw him fight by the monument in Jita. -áHe flowed in his Machariel like a Shinto spirit, 800MM shells sprouting in his passing. -áHis hair flowed in the corona of his target's warp core breach. -áIt was truly majestic. -áAnd while everyone stared in awe I stole the loot and ran off.-áBecause I am like that." --áNEONOVUS |
Doc Fury
Furious Enterprises
3119
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Posted - 2013.07.27 15:15:00 -
[1033] - Quote
Illegitimi non carborundum Don Quixote.
The accumulated filth of all their sex and murder will foam up about their waists and all the ho's and politicians will look up and shout 'Save us!' and I'll look down, and whisper 'Hodor'. |
Harry Forever
SpaceJunkys
515
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Posted - 2013.07.27 15:16:00 -
[1034] - Quote
Cannibal Kane wrote:So... How many goons have you managed to kill?
tell me something about you first, who are you, what did you do in the game until now? Goons Doomsday Event - 28. July |
Cannibal Kane
Somali Coast Guard Authority
2123
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Posted - 2013.07.27 15:20:00 -
[1035] - Quote
Harry Forever wrote:Cannibal Kane wrote:So... How many goons have you managed to kill? tell me something about you first, who are you, what did you do in the game until now?
If I decide to target your corp you get to know of me the hard way. "I saw him fight by the monument in Jita. -áHe flowed in his Machariel like a Shinto spirit, 800MM shells sprouting in his passing. -áHis hair flowed in the corona of his target's warp core breach. -áIt was truly majestic. -áAnd while everyone stared in awe I stole the loot and ran off.-áBecause I am like that." --áNEONOVUS |
Harry Forever
SpaceJunkys
515
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Posted - 2013.07.27 15:21:00 -
[1036] - Quote
Cannibal Kane wrote:Harry Forever wrote:Cannibal Kane wrote:So... How many goons have you managed to kill? tell me something about you first, who are you, what did you do in the game until now? If I decide to target your corp you get to know of me the hard way.
wow, impressive, like the goons who blacklisted me 4 weeks ago and I'm trashing ships since then in their hometown? or can i expect more? please give us a bit more insight about "the hard way" ... Goons Doomsday Event - 28. July |
Cannibal Kane
Somali Coast Guard Authority
2123
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Posted - 2013.07.27 15:26:00 -
[1037] - Quote
Harry Forever wrote:Cannibal Kane wrote:Harry Forever wrote:Cannibal Kane wrote:So... How many goons have you managed to kill? tell me something about you first, who are you, what did you do in the game until now? If I decide to target your corp you get to know of me the hard way. wow, impressive, like the goons who blacklisted me 4 weeks ago and I'm trashing ships since then in their hometown? or can i expect more? please give us a bit more insight about "the hard way" ...
Thrashing them? Are you for real?
I would not call it thrashing when you kill a few frigates and loose a few as well. At your rate your going to kill the same amount isk I did with 1 kill in vfk by end of next year.
Good job. "I saw him fight by the monument in Jita. -áHe flowed in his Machariel like a Shinto spirit, 800MM shells sprouting in his passing. -áHis hair flowed in the corona of his target's warp core breach. -áIt was truly majestic. -áAnd while everyone stared in awe I stole the loot and ran off.-áBecause I am like that." --áNEONOVUS |
flakeys
Arkham Innovations
1245
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Posted - 2013.07.27 15:27:00 -
[1038] - Quote
Cannibal Kane wrote:Harry Forever wrote:Cannibal Kane wrote:So... How many goons have you managed to kill? tell me something about you first, who are you, what did you do in the game until now? If I decide to target your corp you get to know of me the hard way.
Hahahaahaha ....
Harry the clown asking kane who the **** he is .
Harry meet kane , kane is the guy with a pvp reputation you THINK you have.Kane meet harry , harry is the guy who's reputation as a whole you do NOT want to have.
We are all born ignorant, but one must work hard to remain stupid.
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Harry Forever
SpaceJunkys
515
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Posted - 2013.07.27 15:35:00 -
[1039] - Quote
Cannibal Kane wrote:Harry Forever wrote:Cannibal Kane wrote:Harry Forever wrote:Cannibal Kane wrote:So... How many goons have you managed to kill? tell me something about you first, who are you, what did you do in the game until now? If I decide to target your corp you get to know of me the hard way. wow, impressive, like the goons who blacklisted me 4 weeks ago and I'm trashing ships since then in their hometown? or can i expect more? please give us a bit more insight about "the hard way" ... Thrashing them? Are you for real? I would not call it thrashing when you kill a few frigates and loose a few as well. At your rate your going to kill the same amount isk I did with 1 kill in vfk by end of next year. Good job.
buddy, like I mentioned already 100 times, I'm fine with that, I'm new in the game, people like Lucas and some others keep telling me the same although they shot their first ship after 4 years in the game, I'm here since 3 month though
in addition to that, I'm doing most of it solo until now, wherelse you went to a puppy alliance early on, looking at your killboard, hope you did feel safe there, can get a bit scary out in null alone you know ...
but again, may question was, what will you do to me? please resist talking about me all the time, you sure have your own exciting personality, no? Goons Doomsday Event - 28. July |
flakeys
Arkham Innovations
1245
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Posted - 2013.07.27 15:43:00 -
[1040] - Quote
Harry Forever wrote:in addition to that, I'm doing most of it solo until now
Kill something else then a cyno ship for a change and that line there might actually get meaning.
We are all born ignorant, but one must work hard to remain stupid.
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Cannibal Kane
Somali Coast Guard Authority
2125
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Posted - 2013.07.27 15:51:00 -
[1041] - Quote
hehe I just got booted from his channel when I told him he is a joke.
Marmite did not even hurt the goons and they did hundreds of billions of damage to them with wars. Get a clue fruitcake. "I saw him fight by the monument in Jita. -áHe flowed in his Machariel like a Shinto spirit, 800MM shells sprouting in his passing. -áHis hair flowed in the corona of his target's warp core breach. -áIt was truly majestic. -áAnd while everyone stared in awe I stole the loot and ran off.-áBecause I am like that." --áNEONOVUS |
Harry Forever
SpaceJunkys
515
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Posted - 2013.07.27 15:58:00 -
[1042] - Quote
Cannibal Kane wrote:hehe I just got booted from his channel when I told him he is a joke.
Marmite did not even hurt the goons and they did hundreds of billions of damage to them with wars. Get a clue fruitcake.
you don't understand this, monkey
we are here to bring newbs out to null shooting stuff, nothing more
this is a thread to motivate newbs, a bit show a bit fun and a lot of douchebags like you who don't get it...
blocking you now, ciao Goons Doomsday Event - 28. July |
flakeys
Arkham Innovations
1248
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Posted - 2013.07.27 16:00:00 -
[1043] - Quote
Harry the clown , the first eve player to get his blocklist full within a few months without having one jita spammer on that list .
We are all born ignorant, but one must work hard to remain stupid.
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Rhivre
TarNec Invisible Exchequer
347
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Posted - 2013.07.27 16:01:00 -
[1044] - Quote
How many of your team are actual newbies, and how many are bored wormhole/lowsec dwellers? |
Falin Whalen
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
371
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Posted - 2013.07.27 16:08:00 -
[1045] - Quote
Harry Forever wrote:Cannibal Kane wrote:hehe I just got booted from his channel when I told him he is a joke.
Marmite did not even hurt the goons and they did hundreds of billions of damage to them with wars. Get a clue fruitcake. you don't understand this, monkey we are here to bring newbs out to null shooting stuff, nothing more this is a thread to motivate newbs, a bit show a bit fun and a lot of douchebags like you who don't get it... blocking you now, ciao Aww, isin't it cute. Bless your heart, don't forget your helmet when you go out and play now. You've got to remember that these are just simple miners. These are people of the land. The common clay of New Eden. You know... morons. |
Mortimer Civeri
Aliastra Gallente Federation
450
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Posted - 2013.07.27 16:16:00 -
[1046] - Quote
Ugh! 53 pages of tripe, but the jist of it is (and I don't believe I'm actually agreeing with Goons) Harry is an idiot. He is a flea biting an elephant. "I don't know which is worse, ...that everyone has his price, or that the price is always so low." Calvin
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Khergit Deserters
Crom's Angels
1404
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Posted - 2013.07.27 16:19:00 -
[1047] - Quote
Cannibal Kane wrote:hehe I just got booted from his channel when I told him he is a joke.
Marmite did not even hurt the goons and they did hundreds of billions of damage to them with wars. Get a clue fruitcake. Again-- as was said on pages 2, 12, 45, etc.-- we know we're not hurting Goons much flying destroyers in Goon space. Killing what we can kill, which for now has been cyno frigs and haulers. But we're living in null sec, we're getting experience, and we're having fun. We don't cry when a bigger ship or more experienced player manages to kill us. We don't whine when we get caught in a shineys bubble camp. We just learn from it and go back. Why the hate? |
flakeys
Arkham Innovations
1249
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Posted - 2013.07.27 16:23:00 -
[1048] - Quote
Khergit Deserters wrote:Cannibal Kane wrote:hehe I just got booted from his channel when I told him he is a joke.
Marmite did not even hurt the goons and they did hundreds of billions of damage to them with wars. Get a clue fruitcake. Again-- we know we're not hurting Goons much flying destroyers in Goon space. Killing what we can kill, which for now has been cyno frigs and haulers. We're living in null sec, we're getting experience, and we're having fun. We don't cry when a bigger ship or more experienced player manages to kill us. We don't whine when we get caught in a shineys bubble camp. We just learn from it and go back. Why the hate?
Because harry the clown makes it out to be more.Come on look at the damn topic title.
It's one thing fighting a giant , it's another to fight that giant with a bucket of feathers and pretend that with 100 buckets of feathers that giant would be harmed in any way.That's the difference between a mastermind and the village idiot.
You want to have fun and experience then take those exact same ships with you to syndicate and i guarantee you'll have more fun and actually shoot something wich can fire back.And on top you could actually have a base there with more ships/mods/ammo etc.
We are all born ignorant, but one must work hard to remain stupid.
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Harry Forever
SpaceJunkys
515
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Posted - 2013.07.27 16:23:00 -
[1049] - Quote
Mortimer Civeri wrote:Ugh! 53 pages of tripe, but the jist of it is (and I don't believe I'm actually agreeing with Goons) Harry is an idiot. He is a flea biting an elephant.
something is honestly wrong with you guys, it was all fun, its a game, you destroy it all, you are so serious like i would have started the 3rd world war, please consult a doctor
I did fly with a catalyst shooting invulnerable mittanigrad, instead of laughing and saying hey funny guy, you are all so bitter telling me this is so bad so bad ... I shoot cynos, you say this is so not worht it, oh boy is this the most serious thing that happened to you in life? holy god I don't believe it
yea you are all the best at this game, you are so much better, harry is not better, no no no... wow, just wow... you guys are great you get it, you know how to have fun, with every pew pew you seem to shoot some brain out
and guess what... blocked. Goons Doomsday Event - 28. July |
flakeys
Arkham Innovations
1249
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Posted - 2013.07.27 16:25:00 -
[1050] - Quote
Harry Forever wrote:Mortimer Civeri wrote:Ugh! 53 pages of tripe, but the jist of it is (and I don't believe I'm actually agreeing with Goons) Harry is an idiot. He is a flea biting an elephant. something is honestly wrong with you guys, it was all fun, its a game, you destroy it all, you are so serious like i would have started the 3rd world war, please consult a doctor I did fly with a catalyst shooting invulnerable mittanigrad, instead of laughing and saying hey funny guy, you are all so bitter telling me this is so bad so bad ... I shoot cynos, you say this is so not worht it, oh boy is this the most serious thing that happened to you in life? holy god I don't believe it yea you are all the best at this game, you are so much better, harry is not better, no no no... wow, just wow... you guys are great you get it, you know how to have fun, with every pew pew you seem to shoot some brain out and guess what... blocked.
Because shooting cyno's erryday is even less amusing then grinding sov.
We are all born ignorant, but one must work hard to remain stupid.
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Harry Forever
SpaceJunkys
515
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Posted - 2013.07.27 16:26:00 -
[1051] - Quote
ok goons you won, this is no fun anymore, you did it, congratulations to you and all your friends... we sure need you in the game, this is eve you know, where bitterness is at home, thanks for explaining so eagerly Goons Doomsday Event - 28. July |
Khergit Deserters
Crom's Angels
1404
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Posted - 2013.07.27 16:27:00 -
[1052] - Quote
flakeys wrote:Khergit Deserters wrote:Cannibal Kane wrote:hehe I just got booted from his channel when I told him he is a joke.
Marmite did not even hurt the goons and they did hundreds of billions of damage to them with wars. Get a clue fruitcake. Again-- we know we're not hurting Goons much flying destroyers in Goon space. Killing what we can kill, which for now has been cyno frigs and haulers. We're living in null sec, we're getting experience, and we're having fun. We don't cry when a bigger ship or more experienced player manages to kill us. We don't whine when we get caught in a shineys bubble camp. We just learn from it and go back. Why the hate? Because harry the clown makes it out to be more.Come on look at the damn topic title. It's one thing fighting a giant , it's another to fight that giant with a bucket of feathers and pretend that with 100 buckets of feathers that giant would be harmed in any way.That's the difference between a mastermind and the village idiot. You want to have fun and experience then take those exact same ships with you to syndicate and i guarantee you'll have more fun and actually shoot something wich can fire back.And on top you could actually have a base there with more ships/mods/ammo etc. It's because Harry's trying to encourage more highsec guys to come out and give it a try. It's P.R.-- he's trying to keep the energy and enthusiasm up. |
Falin Whalen
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
371
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Posted - 2013.07.27 16:28:00 -
[1053] - Quote
Khergit Deserters wrote:Cannibal Kane wrote:hehe I just got booted from his channel when I told him he is a joke.
Marmite did not even hurt the goons and they did hundreds of billions of damage to them with wars. Get a clue fruitcake. Again-- we know we're not hurting Goons much flying destroyers in Goon space. Killing what we can kill, which for now has been cyno frigs and haulers. But we're living in null sec, we're getting experience, and we're having fun. We don't cry when a bigger ship or more experienced player manages to kill us. We don't whine when we get caught in a shineys bubble camp. We just learn from it and go back. Everybody was new a PVP at one time. Why the hate? Good for you. You are doing it right. We don't hate Harry, we just mearly want to know what motivates someone to bash their head against a brick wall and declair they are winning aganst the wall when a few flakes are chipped off. You've got to remember that these are just simple miners. These are people of the land. The common clay of New Eden. You know... morons. |
Ustrello
Amok. Goonswarm Federation
127
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Posted - 2013.07.27 16:28:00 -
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I think harry is starting to rage out. |
Falin Whalen
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
371
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Posted - 2013.07.27 16:30:00 -
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Ustrello wrote:I think harry is starting to rage out. What was your first clue? You've got to remember that these are just simple miners. These are people of the land. The common clay of New Eden. You know... morons. |
Lucas Kell
JSR1 AND GOLDEN GUARDIAN PRODUCTIONS SpaceMonkey's Alliance
234
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Posted - 2013.07.27 16:32:00 -
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Harry Forever wrote:ok goons you won, this is no fun anymore, you did it, congratulations to you and all your friends... we sure need you in the game, this is eve you know, where bitterness is at home, thanks for explaining so eagerly I found the Goons weekend checklist
1. Crush a useless whining noobs hopes and dreams 2. Mash TEST into a pulp [Scheduled for sunday] The Indecisive Noob - A new EVE Fan Blog for news and stuff. |
Harry Forever
SpaceJunkys
515
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Posted - 2013.07.27 16:34:00 -
[1057] - Quote
I recommend to CCP banning all who try the hardest to destroy everybody who wants to creat content, this beating down and insulting is just extrem ****, not sure why nobody speaks up here, ISD? sleeping? Goons Doomsday Event - 28. July |
Ustrello
Amok. Goonswarm Federation
127
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Posted - 2013.07.27 16:38:00 -
[1058] - Quote
Harry Forever wrote:I recommend to CCP banning all who try the hardest to destroy everybody who wants to creat content, this beating down and insulting is just extrem ****, not sure why nobody speaks up here, ISD? sleeping? is this the fun you want to promote with the game? I would play really hardball with all those douchebags punshing down on everybody who brings something up.
Because you are terrible and can't handle criticism or anything besides a cyno frig |
Lucas Kell
JSR1 AND GOLDEN GUARDIAN PRODUCTIONS SpaceMonkey's Alliance
234
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Posted - 2013.07.27 16:39:00 -
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Harry Forever wrote:I recommend to CCP banning all who try the hardest to destroy everybody who wants to creat content, this beating down and insulting is just extrem ****, not sure why nobody speaks up here, ISD? sleeping? Because as long as we only smash your in game action and methods we are well within the rules. The fact that you've now quit the event means any chance of a problem is resolved before it even began (not that you could have caused a real problem). This is what makes EVE so great. It's not about just what in game actions you take, but everything as a whole. Psychological warfare is not a game mechanic but it's as powerful as anything else. The Indecisive Noob - A new EVE Fan Blog for news and stuff. |
Cannibal Kane
Somali Coast Guard Authority
2125
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Posted - 2013.07.27 16:40:00 -
[1060] - Quote
Harry Forever wrote:I recommend to CCP banning all who try the hardest to destroy everybody who wants to creat content, this beating down and insulting is just extrem ****, not sure why nobody speaks up here, ISD? sleeping? is this the fun you want to promote with the game? I would play really hardball with all those douchebags punshing down on everybody who brings something up.
I create content for corps everyday buy turning their corp members into corpse...
Happy to have been able to push you bit further into self doubt. If you had any conviction you would have powered through. "I saw him fight by the monument in Jita. -áHe flowed in his Machariel like a Shinto spirit, 800MM shells sprouting in his passing. -áHis hair flowed in the corona of his target's warp core breach. -áIt was truly majestic. -áAnd while everyone stared in awe I stole the loot and ran off.-áBecause I am like that." --áNEONOVUS |
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Kaarous Aldurald
ROC Academy The ROC
660
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Posted - 2013.07.27 16:44:00 -
[1061] - Quote
Harry Forever wrote:I recommend to CCP banning all who try the hardest to destroy everybody who wants to creat content, this beating down and insulting is just extrem ****, not sure why nobody speaks up here, ISD? sleeping? is this the fun you want to promote with the game? I would play really hardball with all those douchebags punshing down on everybody who brings something up.
Well, there's a lesson here, Harry. First of all, don't let your mouth write checks your ass can't cash.
Secondly, stupid ideas get put down in this game. Especially when all they have to back it up is cyno frigate kills.
Thirdly, don't spout off populist nonsense and then claim victory by "having enough effect to make them come to this thread to try and stop me", or whatever horseshit Herzog was saying earlier.
Recognize that, to an alliance like that? You don't matter. Not even a little bit. This thread bothers the average Goon more than anything you have done in nullsec combined.
And lastly, when you do finally admit defeat, going crying to the mods is bad form. You lose, hell, not even that, you weren't even on the same playing field as the people you claimed to be fighting.
Earn your place, or learn your place. Not posting on my main, and loving it.-á Because free speech.-á |
flakeys
Arkham Innovations
1249
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Posted - 2013.07.27 16:45:00 -
[1062] - Quote
Khergit Deserters wrote:flakeys wrote:Khergit Deserters wrote:Cannibal Kane wrote:hehe I just got booted from his channel when I told him he is a joke.
Marmite did not even hurt the goons and they did hundreds of billions of damage to them with wars. Get a clue fruitcake. Again-- we know we're not hurting Goons much flying destroyers in Goon space. Killing what we can kill, which for now has been cyno frigs and haulers. We're living in null sec, we're getting experience, and we're having fun. We don't cry when a bigger ship or more experienced player manages to kill us. We don't whine when we get caught in a shineys bubble camp. We just learn from it and go back. Why the hate? Because harry the clown makes it out to be more.Come on look at the damn topic title. It's one thing fighting a giant , it's another to fight that giant with a bucket of feathers and pretend that with 100 buckets of feathers that giant would be harmed in any way.That's the difference between a mastermind and the village idiot. You want to have fun and experience then take those exact same ships with you to syndicate and i guarantee you'll have more fun and actually shoot something wich can fire back.And on top you could actually have a base there with more ships/mods/ammo etc. It's because Harry's trying to encourage more highsec guys to come out and give it a try. It's P.R.-- he's trying to keep the energy and enthusiasm up.
And they'll succeed at kiling a few cyno ships and then get blobbed to **** and then return to high-sec to never return to null again.
Now if that same crowd would go to npc null to have fun and do some targetpractice they actually might not leave with a bitter taste.
I get the part where it is about the idea not the act but in this case neither the idea nor the act are well thaught out.
We are all born ignorant, but one must work hard to remain stupid.
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flakeys
Arkham Innovations
1249
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Posted - 2013.07.27 16:47:00 -
[1063] - Quote
Ustrello wrote:Harry Forever wrote:I recommend to CCP banning all who try the hardest to destroy everybody who wants to creat content, this beating down and insulting is just extrem ****, not sure why nobody speaks up here, ISD? sleeping? is this the fun you want to promote with the game? I would play really hardball with all those douchebags punshing down on everybody who brings something up. Because you are terrible and can't handle criticism or anything besides a cyno frig
Go look up his first threads in market discussion forum.You'll find out he has that habbit with every aspect of the game.
We are all born ignorant, but one must work hard to remain stupid.
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Cannibal Kane
Somali Coast Guard Authority
2125
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Posted - 2013.07.27 16:49:00 -
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Cannibal Kane wrote:Harry Forever wrote:I recommend to CCP banning all who try the hardest to destroy everybody who wants to creat content, this beating down and insulting is just extrem ****, not sure why nobody speaks up here, ISD? sleeping? is this the fun you want to promote with the game? I would play really hardball with all those douchebags punshing down on everybody who brings something up. I create content for corps everyday buy turning their corp members into corpse... Happy to have been able to push you bit further into self doubt. If you had any conviction you would have powered through. I will not be retracting the war though.
Just leaving it here.. I feel the last post one a page is always overlooked.
"I saw him fight by the monument in Jita. -áHe flowed in his Machariel like a Shinto spirit, 800MM shells sprouting in his passing. -áHis hair flowed in the corona of his target's warp core breach. -áIt was truly majestic. -áAnd while everyone stared in awe I stole the loot and ran off.-áBecause I am like that." --áNEONOVUS |
Khergit Deserters
Crom's Angels
1404
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Posted - 2013.07.27 17:24:00 -
[1065] - Quote
Cannibal Kane wrote:Cannibal Kane wrote:Harry Forever wrote:I recommend to CCP banning all who try the hardest to destroy everybody who wants to creat content, this beating down and insulting is just extrem ****, not sure why nobody speaks up here, ISD? sleeping? is this the fun you want to promote with the game? I would play really hardball with all those douchebags punshing down on everybody who brings something up. I create content for corps everyday buy turning their corp members into corpse... Happy to have been able to push you bit further into self doubt. If you had any conviction you would have powered through. I will not be retracting the war though. Just leaving it here.. I feel the last post one a page is always overlooked. Yeah, we might need a new one. You guys with your personal attacks might have gotten this one locked. |
Cannibal Kane
Somali Coast Guard Authority
2125
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Posted - 2013.07.27 17:28:00 -
[1066] - Quote
Khergit Deserters wrote:Cannibal Kane wrote:Cannibal Kane wrote:Harry Forever wrote:I recommend to CCP banning all who try the hardest to destroy everybody who wants to creat content, this beating down and insulting is just extrem ****, not sure why nobody speaks up here, ISD? sleeping? is this the fun you want to promote with the game? I would play really hardball with all those douchebags punshing down on everybody who brings something up. I create content for corps everyday buy turning their corp members into corpse... Happy to have been able to push you bit further into self doubt. If you had any conviction you would have powered through. I will not be retracting the war though. Just leaving it here.. I feel the last post one a page is always overlooked. Yeah, we might need a new one. You guys with your personal attacks might have gotten this one locked.
Personal Attacks? I did no such thing. "I saw him fight by the monument in Jita. -áHe flowed in his Machariel like a Shinto spirit, 800MM shells sprouting in his passing. -áHis hair flowed in the corona of his target's warp core breach. -áIt was truly majestic. -áAnd while everyone stared in awe I stole the loot and ran off.-áBecause I am like that." --áNEONOVUS |
Alavaria Fera
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
3889
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Posted - 2013.07.27 17:28:00 -
[1067] - Quote
Kaarous Aldurald wrote:Earn your place, or learn your place. Do both. There are no goons. The goons' 0.0 dream is over. Fountain will never fall. Deklein by September. Thought is not heresy, wrong thought is.
PL, NC., N3, Tribe, 401k, you are our only hope ! ~TEST2013 |
Khergit Deserters
Crom's Angels
1404
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Posted - 2013.07.27 17:33:00 -
[1068] - Quote
Cannibal Kane wrote:Khergit Deserters wrote:Cannibal Kane wrote:Cannibal Kane wrote:Harry Forever wrote:I recommend to CCP banning all who try the hardest to destroy everybody who wants to creat content, this beating down and insulting is just extrem ****, not sure why nobody speaks up here, ISD? sleeping? is this the fun you want to promote with the game? I would play really hardball with all those douchebags punshing down on everybody who brings something up. I create content for corps everyday buy turning their corp members into corpse... Happy to have been able to push you bit further into self doubt. If you had any conviction you would have powered through. I will not be retracting the war though. Just leaving it here.. I feel the last post one a page is always overlooked. Yeah, we might need a new one. You guys with your personal attacks might have gotten this one locked. Personal Attacks? I did no such thing. They start on about page 48 Cannibal. Until then we had a pretty good parry and riposte thing going, and some actual constructive thoughts. |
Joepopo
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
106
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Posted - 2013.07.27 17:34:00 -
[1069] - Quote
Harry Forever wrote:I recommend to CCP banning all who try the hardest to destroy everybody who wants to creat content, this beating down and insulting is just extrem ****, not sure why nobody speaks up here, ISD? sleeping? is this the fun you want to promote with the game? I would play really hardball with all those douchebags punshing down on everybody who brings something up.
Why not be straight: ask CCP to ban people you don't like ebcause they laughed at how futile you are.
You have more people on your block list than on your friend list. Wake up, that's a sign! |
Alavaria Fera
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
3890
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Posted - 2013.07.27 17:46:00 -
[1070] - Quote
Joepopo wrote:Harry Forever wrote:I recommend to CCP banning all who try the hardest to destroy everybody who wants to creat content, this beating down and insulting is just extrem ****, not sure why nobody speaks up here, ISD? sleeping? is this the fun you want to promote with the game? I would play really hardball with all those douchebags punshing down on everybody who brings something up. Why not be straight: ask CCP to ban people you don't like ebcause they laughed at how futile you are. You have more people on your block list than on your friend list. Wake up, that's a sign! Wouldn't just blocking the major CFC alliances cover most of it? There are no goons. The goons' 0.0 dream is over. Fountain will never fall. Deklein by September. Thought is not heresy, wrong thought is.
PL, NC., N3, Tribe, 401k, you are our only hope ! ~TEST2013 |
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Harry Forever
SpaceJunkys
517
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Posted - 2013.07.27 18:18:00 -
[1071] - Quote
Khergit Deserters wrote:Cannibal Kane wrote:Cannibal Kane wrote:Harry Forever wrote:I recommend to CCP banning all who try the hardest to destroy everybody who wants to creat content, this beating down and insulting is just extrem ****, not sure why nobody speaks up here, ISD? sleeping? is this the fun you want to promote with the game? I would play really hardball with all those douchebags punshing down on everybody who brings something up. I create content for corps everyday buy turning their corp members into corpse... Happy to have been able to push you bit further into self doubt. If you had any conviction you would have powered through. I will not be retracting the war though. Just leaving it here.. I feel the last post one a page is always overlooked. Yeah, we might need a new one. You guys with your personal attacks might have gotten this one locked.
self doubt? the only thing i doubt is that he understands what this thread is about... that guy is not right in his head, honestly
Khergit I hardly believe talking to them, is of any use, they are just too damn silly... we should lock this thing and just play our game, this forum is sickening me Goons Doomsday Event - 28. July |
flakeys
Arkham Innovations
1251
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Posted - 2013.07.27 18:21:00 -
[1072] - Quote
Harry Forever wrote:this forum is sickening me
If you place the garbage in front of the door you will attract the rats .
We are all born ignorant, but one must work hard to remain stupid.
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Ustrello
Amok. Goonswarm Federation
128
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Posted - 2013.07.27 18:42:00 -
[1073] - Quote
Harry Forever wrote:Khergit Deserters wrote:Cannibal Kane wrote:Cannibal Kane wrote:Harry Forever wrote:I recommend to CCP banning all who try the hardest to destroy everybody who wants to creat content, this beating down and insulting is just extrem ****, not sure why nobody speaks up here, ISD? sleeping? is this the fun you want to promote with the game? I would play really hardball with all those douchebags punshing down on everybody who brings something up. I create content for corps everyday buy turning their corp members into corpse... Happy to have been able to push you bit further into self doubt. If you had any conviction you would have powered through. I will not be retracting the war though. Just leaving it here.. I feel the last post one a page is always overlooked. Yeah, we might need a new one. You guys with your personal attacks might have gotten this one locked. self doubt? the only thing i doubt is that he understands what this thread is about... that guy is not right in his head, honestly Khergit I hardly believe talking to them, is of any use, they are just too damn silly... we lock this thing and just play our game, this forum is sickening me
But how will we know if you kill a cyno ship? Who will ring the horn of destruction against goonswarm and the CFC |
Zemo Walden
Caldari Provisions Caldari State
5
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Posted - 2013.07.27 19:18:00 -
[1074] - Quote
Kane posting big headed comments? Nothing new there! Nice to see he's trying to suck up to GS yet is you look on his noob bashing Corp (which shut down as soon as it got too much attention) you will see GS kills in the kill log. So he's hardly a ally to GS really. If you say anything against Kane he spams you in game and follows you around like a lost sheep, he's that pathetic.
I might post some of the messages he posted to me in game after I placed a bounty on him... |
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ISD Dorrim Barstorlode
ISD Community Communications Liaisons
2297
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Posted - 2013.07.27 19:29:00 -
[1075] - Quote
Thread closed at OP's request. ISD Dorrim Barstorlode Captain Community Communication Liaisons (CCLs) Interstellar Services Department |
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