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SKINE DMZ
The Scope
Gallente Federation
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Posted - 2013.06.24 10:09:00 -
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many..bubbles....drowning.. |
Liafcipe9000
Smeghead Empire
6286
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Posted - 2013.06.24 10:29:00 -
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Harry Forever wrote:shoot everything
there's your first problem right there.
Carebears. |
Harry Forever
SpaceJunkys
155
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Posted - 2013.06.24 10:42:00 -
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Liafcipe9000 wrote:Harry Forever wrote:shoot everything there's your first problem right there. Carebears.
there are no problems in my world, there are only things happening because of reason
OMG! the asteroid is depleted! |
SKINE DMZ
The Scope
Gallente Federation
16
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Posted - 2013.06.24 11:22:00 -
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Liafcipe9000 wrote:Harry Forever wrote:shoot everything there's your first problem right there. Carebears.
im a sharebear in a carebear suit |
Logan Brewster
Personal Future Confectioners
12
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Posted - 2013.06.24 11:28:00 -
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We'll sponsor you a total of 10 stealth bombers as a small contribution to your noble cause.
Please mail me with details of which type you'd prefer.
You are actually not the only ones stealthing in that region, so there is a possibility some friends of mine will contact you and join with their bombers.
Logan Brewster |
Harry Forever
SpaceJunkys
155
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Posted - 2013.06.24 11:39:00 -
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Logan Brewster wrote:We'll sponsor you a total of 10 stealth bombers as a small contribution to your noble cause.
Please mail me with details of which type you'd prefer.
You are actually not the only ones stealthing in that region, so there is a possibility some friends of mine will contact you and join with their bombers.
Logan Brewster
great news!! thanks for the support! I did shoot you a mail, hope we soon can trash that place together!
OMG! the asteroid is depleted! |
SKINE DMZ
The Scope
Gallente Federation
16
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Posted - 2013.06.24 11:44:00 -
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Logan Brewster wrote:We'll sponsor you a total of 10 stealth bombers as a small contribution to your noble cause.
Please mail me with details of which type you'd prefer.
You are actually not the only ones stealthing in that region, so there is a possibility some friends of mine will contact you and join with their bombers.
Logan Brewster
 Personal Future Confectioners - largest sponsor of carebears united
Herzog Wolfhammer - second largest sponsor
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Harry Forever
SpaceJunkys
155
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Posted - 2013.06.24 11:51:00 -
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SKINE DMZ wrote:Logan Brewster wrote:We'll sponsor you a total of 10 stealth bombers as a small contribution to your noble cause.
Please mail me with details of which type you'd prefer.
You are actually not the only ones stealthing in that region, so there is a possibility some friends of mine will contact you and join with their bombers.
Logan Brewster Personal Future Confectioners - largest sponsor of carebears united Herzog Wolfhammer - second largest sponsor
dont miss the additional 30 rifters coming from Wolfhammer, thats a total of 60 ships + the 10 stealth bomber, our warchest will be nicely filled to do nonstop trips to VFK
OMG! the asteroid is depleted! |
Logan Brewster
Personal Future Confectioners
13
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Posted - 2013.06.24 12:30:00 -
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SKINE DMZ wrote:Logan Brewster wrote:We'll sponsor you a total of 10 stealth bombers as a small contribution to your noble cause.
Please mail me with details of which type you'd prefer.
You are actually not the only ones stealthing in that region, so there is a possibility some friends of mine will contact you and join with their bombers.
Logan Brewster Personal Future Confectioners - largest sponsor of carebears united Herzog Wolfhammer - second largest sponsor
Don't shout it off the mountains. Bad for the rest of my business.
If I see you put those toys to some good use, perhaps we can come to some further supply arrangements.
Good hunting for now! |
Kijo Rikki
Powder and Ball Alchemists Union
The Predictables
387
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Posted - 2013.06.24 12:59:00 -
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Good Morning Gentlemen.
Today we will be training on the Caldari Manticore. This state of the art stealth bomber is capable of sneaking across enemy lines and engaging ships much larger than itself.
A product of the Lai Dai corporation, this bird is capable of carrying and launching torpedoes, weaponry designed for much larger battleships. In addition, in the hands of extremely skilled pilots, she is capable of firing torpedoes from a much greater distance than any standard battleship could ever hope to. These are it's strength.
However, due it's highly specialized nature, it has some major drawbacks: namely, it is very fragile, as any properly fitted Manticore will not have much room for defensive modules, and because it is designed to go after battleships and battlecruisers, it performs very poorly against frigate and cruiser class vessels.
You must be aware of these weaknesses and use your stealth to dictate when and where to strike. It is advisable to keep range on battleships, however should it become necessary to point and hold a target, it is advisable to carry sensor dampeners to slow the battleships lock time. This works well in a group, but be advised only one dampener may allow a battleship to eventually gaine lock, and at point range you may become susceptible to drone attack.
It is also advisable to carry target painters on board, this will allow you to effectively engage cruisers and battlecruisers by increasing their signature radius and making it easier for torpedoes to land. Be aware some cruisers use weaponry that is very effective against frigates, be cautious when engaging.
Finally, avoid engaging enemy frigates at all costs. Unless you are trained to launch bombs, and you know the enemy frigate has engaged his microwarp drives and is in range, do not decloak and fire! Torpedo weaponry performs too poorly on its own, even with target painters, and a frigate class vessel will chew a stealth bomber up.
In the upcoming days we will continue to train in tier 1 vessels while you learn more about the stealth bomber class. Don't forget to brush up on support skills in addition to your stealth bomber training. Once you are in the Manticore, the brass will begin sending you across enemy lines, straight into the heart of the Goonwaffe.
I don't think I need to tell you how dangerous this is, but I will remind you the fate of the free world may very well rest in your hands.
Dismissed. |
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Arch Stanton's Neighbour
Forceful Resource Acquisition Inc
59
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Posted - 2013.06.24 13:14:00 -
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Why are you using Manticores, that have a kinetic damage bonus that is also what rats in goonland shoot? (And therefore, what their carebears will be well tanked against).
You should be in anything but a manticore. Personal recommendation is purifier for that glorious em hole on all shield ships. |
Kijo Rikki
Powder and Ball Alchemists Union
The Predictables
388
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Posted - 2013.06.24 13:18:00 -
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Arch Stanton's Neighbour wrote:Why are you using Manticores, that have a kinetic damage bonus that is also what rats in goonland shoot? (And therefore, what their carebears will be well tanked against).
You should be in anything but a manticore. Personal recommendation is purifier for that glorious em hole on all shield ships.
Good point. I just like the Manticore on looks, but Arch is correct. Goonbears will be fitted to defend against Guristas, they will have strong kinetic/thermal tanks. |
Harry Forever
SpaceJunkys
156
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Posted - 2013.06.24 13:39:00 -
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Arch Stanton's Neighbour wrote:Why are you using Manticores, that have a kinetic damage bonus that is also what rats in goonland shoot? (And therefore, what their carebears will be well tanked against).
You should be in anything but a manticore. Personal recommendation is purifier for that glorious em hole on all shield ships.
ok then we need to spy for some war fleets in the maticore, maybe they got different fittings  ... thanks for the info we will look into our options and adjust our fleet based on what we are shooting, good to know
OMG! the asteroid is depleted! |
Alavaria Fera
GoonWaffe
Goonswarm Federation
3731
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Posted - 2013.06.24 16:45:00 -
[194] - Quote
Harry Forever wrote:Arch Stanton's Neighbour wrote:Why are you using Manticores, that have a kinetic damage bonus that is also what rats in goonland shoot? (And therefore, what their carebears will be well tanked against).
You should be in anything but a manticore. Personal recommendation is purifier for that glorious em hole on all shield ships. ok then we need to spy for some war fleets in the maticore, maybe they got different fittings ... thanks for the info we will look into our options and adjust our fleet based on what we are shooting, good to know
Yes, you should use Purifiers. Please talk to Zed Mike for more details, he used to be pretty good at ganking Drakes with a purifier.
There are no goons. The goons' 0.0 dream is over.
TEST Defence, Please Ignore |
destiny2
Abh Academy
Abh Alliance
131
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Posted - 2013.06.24 17:06:00 -
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im sure many from hisec will only go if it turns into another one of these sort of battles.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TLqb-m1ZZUA
Battle of asakai |
Harry Forever
SpaceJunkys
158
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Posted - 2013.06.24 17:26:00 -
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Alavaria Fera wrote:Harry Forever wrote:Arch Stanton's Neighbour wrote:Why are you using Manticores, that have a kinetic damage bonus that is also what rats in goonland shoot? (And therefore, what their carebears will be well tanked against).
You should be in anything but a manticore. Personal recommendation is purifier for that glorious em hole on all shield ships. ok then we need to spy for some war fleets in the maticore, maybe they got different fittings ... thanks for the info we will look into our options and adjust our fleet based on what we are shooting, good to know Yes, you should use Purifiers. Please talk to Zed Mike for more details, he used to be pretty good at ganking Drakes with a purifier.
I like those guys here as well http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9AGEm4y-fdI
OMG! the asteroid is depleted! |
Kyle Maltese
University of Caille
Gallente Federation
1
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Posted - 2013.06.24 17:42:00 -
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Really want to hit them where it hurts? Find their buy hubs, find their fits, and stop selling those modules. Make them go elsewhere to get PvP fits, or make them pay higher prices. Goonswarm is going to war because their funds are drying up, so make them dry up faster.
Of course, I don't have anything against Goonswarm themselves. |
Laserak
GoonWaffe
Goonswarm Federation
37
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Posted - 2013.06.24 18:15:00 -
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Kyle Maltese wrote:Really want to hit them where it hurts? Find their buy hubs, find their fits, and stop selling those modules. Make them go elsewhere to get PvP fits, or make them pay higher prices. Goonswarm is going to war because their funds are drying up, so make them dry up faster.
Of course, I don't have anything against Goonswarm themselves.
Because we totally dont get our ships off alliance contracts
and you cant dock in our stations, our buy hub is Jita- try telling those guys not to sell
get back in your L4 scrub |
SKINE DMZ
The Scope
Gallente Federation
17
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Posted - 2013.06.24 18:17:00 -
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^ sounds like an angry miner |
Kyle Maltese
University of Caille
Gallente Federation
2
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Posted - 2013.06.24 18:30:00 -
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Laserak wrote:Kyle Maltese wrote:Really want to hit them where it hurts? Find their buy hubs, find their fits, and stop selling those modules. Make them go elsewhere to get PvP fits, or make them pay higher prices. Goonswarm is going to war because their funds are drying up, so make them dry up faster.
Of course, I don't have anything against Goonswarm themselves. Because we totally dont get our ships off alliance contracts and you cant dock in our stations, our buy hub is Jita- try telling those guys not to sell get back in your L4 scrub
Son, you're thinking way too narrowly for what I'm talking about.
Stick to tackling. |
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Khergit Deserters
Crom's Angels
1243
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Posted - 2013.06.24 21:06:00 -
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Any new reports from the front? |
Kharaxus
SpaceJunkys
21
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Posted - 2013.06.24 21:33:00 -
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Its too quiet...... |
Marlona Sky
D00M.
Northern Coalition.
3946
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Posted - 2013.06.24 22:33:00 -
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Khergit Deserters wrote:Any new reports from the front?
Goons and the rest of the CFC are lossing their foothold in Fountain and at the same time losing valuables moons here and there. The tactic of blue balling is not working as well as they thought it would.
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Herzog Wolfhammer
Sigma Special Tactics Group
2923
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Posted - 2013.06.25 03:22:00 -
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I see people want to "ship up" to SBs and black ops.
Getting new players to go for advanced hulls for nullsec PVP early one is a good thing.
The reasons are simple.
First, getting them to PVP is good for them and for the game. Certainly there are other things to do like exploration but you get PVP with the exploration if you are not careful OR you hate the minigame so much you wait for the explorer to finish it then take his stuff.
Second, a lot of new players suffer from the "bigger is better" mentality in the ship size progression. They usually go for the battleship or battle cruiser without a good amount of experience with smaller craft. Thus they move to bigger racks with more slots and don't know what to do with them. They also don't learn the appreciation for taking a smaller hull and getting as much out of it as you can.
Meanwhile, as for highsec attacking nullsec, why not? Certainly it's not the way the present status quo would like it. Let's think of this for a moment: all of that complaining about highsec is usually couched in "it should just be a noob starter zone".
Using high sec to stage a war from is probably the biggest way to insult the gate campers and feudalistic nullsec overlords. Everything that is wrong with highsec, as they put it, brought to bear against them in a manner of war is likely to grind a lot of gears. NPC stations with production, Concord, the list can be long on this one.
But.... this IS indeed a sandbox, no?
I have no hatred of nullsec though. It's just space, but there are a lot of people who complain endlessly about highsec. There are those who are forthcoming in their gripe and respected. They outright say they want to violence your boat and take your stuff. They, at the least, are not in highsec playing aggro-fu and station games. But the vast majority of the complainers, those who are not being truthful, have some beef with highsec that ranges from hating it as being the only place they can get ISK to nullsec not being everything they thought it was, but won't come to terms with that.
So many who have been to nullsec bought into the lie that it's the end game or you can get PVP there and so they go, and find things are not what they seem, and this is due to... other players. And this is not in the manner that they would fail to accept that this is an MMO. I think everybody gets that part, but that loss due to drama and petty crap eventually wears people down.
Also the expectations are beyond what a lot of people have. Are they failing? Why should they care?
If highsec was to wage a non-state 4th generation styled war on nullsec, what would be the effects of that?
I think it would be a good thing in the long run. First, you get players, especially new ones, into PVP and this game is all about PVP (sorry, it is - and my stats should show I am not Mr PVP here). Anything to break people out of this mindset of ISK-obsession and trying to "play house" with glimmer ships and the whole nine yards of carebeardom. Seriously. What became of highsec incursions is shameful, for example.
It would also be a path to get more people to nullsec because the war would not really be that effective on nullsec, given the hardware required to actually invade and keep it. The real destruction would be to what I call "The Great Wall of Carebear". New players who make forays into nullsec early on in life to attack it will breath new life into it. I like to point out there are carebears on BOTH sides of that wall. Well, if carbears are so horrible, then let them suffer on both sides of it.
I know that a lot of players would disagree, but I ask, how could the PVPers be against this? How could anybody already out there in nullsec now be against this?
Is it because this is not happening on... YOUR terms?
If that is the case, then consider it deeply for THIS is what I hope to see the player base at war against.
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Harry Forever
SpaceJunkys
166
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Posted - 2013.06.25 07:35:00 -
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Marlona Sky wrote:Khergit Deserters wrote:Any new reports from the front? Goons and the rest of the CFC are lossing their foothold in Fountain and at the same time losing valuables moons here and there. The tactic of blue balling is not working as well as they thought it would. As far as sov goes, initially Goons and the CFC were gifted five systems to give them a leg up on the invasion. At one point they had 15 systems, but as the month wore on, they have lost some and are currently at eleven systems. Unfortunately there is no solid way to track all the good moons that provide ISK, but the general agreement is they are losing more than they gain - allegedly.
Hey Marlona, I think mister Khergit Deserters wanted to have a report from the guerilla front at VFK a small fleet of carebears are invading and infiltrating goonspace... we attempting to smoke out gatecamps, and shoot down goons in their backyard, but thanks for the fountain report anyway, seems we will have a good time in goonspace as long as TEST is keeping them busy on the others side of the univers
If you know some carebears who want to hunt down some goons, now is the time, please let them know and tell them to come to my channel SpaceJunkys where we start organizing our fleets, or they just go to VFK, our slogan GÇ£shoot a goon while they fight for moonGÇ¥ :)
maybe join with your nyx as well ;)
OMG! the asteroid is depleted! |
Harry Forever
SpaceJunkys
166
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Posted - 2013.06.25 07:38:00 -
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Khergit Deserters wrote:Any new reports from the front?
day 6
good day at the carebear fleet, yesterday I had the chance to fly with 2 experienced stealth bomber pilots, they teached me their wartactics and how to move around in null sec save, slowely we pushed forward into goonspace gathering intel of each area, but nobody was there, it seems they burried themeselfes deep down in their cave, it was so quiet and peaceful I even parked my starship in space to have a nap for the night :)
Now Im stuck in a dream called real life and need to do some boring stuff infront of a tool called excel, but I hope I wake up soon and be again in my starship fighting goons... to be continued :)
OMG! the asteroid is depleted! |
Marlona Sky
D00M.
Northern Coalition.
3948
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Posted - 2013.06.25 16:21:00 -
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Harry Forever wrote:Marlona Sky wrote:Khergit Deserters wrote:Any new reports from the front? Goons and the rest of the CFC are lossing their foothold in Fountain and at the same time losing valuables moons here and there. The tactic of blue balling is not working as well as they thought it would. As far as sov goes, initially Goons and the CFC were gifted five systems to give them a leg up on the invasion. At one point they had 15 systems, but as the month wore on, they have lost some and are currently at eleven systems. Unfortunately there is no solid way to track all the good moons that provide ISK, but the general agreement is they are losing more than they gain - allegedly. Hey Marlona, I think mister Khergit Deserters wanted to have a report from the guerilla front at VFK a small fleet of carebears are invading and infiltrating goonspace... we attempting to smoke out gatecamps, and shoot down goons in their backyard, but thanks for the fountain report anyway, seems we will have a good time in goonspace as long as TEST is keeping them busy on the others side of the universe If you know some carebears who want to hunt down some goons, now is the time, please let them know and tell them to come to my channel SpaceJunkys where we start organizing our fleets, or they just go to VFK, our slogan GÇ£shoot a goon while they fight for moonGÇ¥ :P maybe join with your nyx as well ;D
If you or Khergit can write up something that is not terrible for someones eyes to read that is factual and encompasses your adventures up there, please send it in to the TMC submissions or contact me. I think an article about so called Carebears Into The Wild would be a great read.
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Anna Djan
Banana Corp
16
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Posted - 2013.06.25 16:38:00 -
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I smell OP is a goon alt :)
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Kharaxus
SpaceJunkys
21
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Posted - 2013.06.25 16:48:00 -
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My far fetched opinion?
The OP has cubicle wars with his fellow Excel wielding associates.
Perhaps one day somebody in the office suggested to him he try eve. That person was possibly a Goon. Possibly that individual is either grooming the OP, or simply playing cat and mouse with the OP.
I mean look at his ambition and his ship fits. Why would a Goon go to all the trouble?
If you join the SpaceJunkys channel you can talk to him and make a more accurate evaluation. |
Herzog Wolfhammer
Sigma Special Tactics Group
2924
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Posted - 2013.06.25 18:49:00 -
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I would not put it past the goons to start some kind of program like this that keeps their own membership from becoming complacent and "bearish".
But I think the general idea is sound: get new players to roam nullsec looking for fights. If the paradigm of "you have to grind and skill for a while before you go" can be broken, a good time will be had by everybody.
I realized last night I can fit a cyno but don't know how to use it. Gotta go back to school... |
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