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Harry Forever
SpaceJunkys
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Posted - 2013.07.13 17:14:00 -
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Khanh'rhh wrote:Harry Forever wrote:Khanh'rhh wrote:Are people congratulating themselves on flying to a 0.0 system that's been largely deserted for a month, under cloak, ITT? are goons congratulating themselves for such deserted comments? killed over 30 ships the last 2 weeks, seems you are all undocking with your eyes shut Yes, this is literally the case since you light the cyno on station then worry about the other client and making that ship safe. Whether the cyno ship still exists to re-dock and do this again is an afterthought, since it usually costs less than the fuel. Anyway, I posted in your other thread about how to do better than cyno ships.
you mean shooting cynos is sensless like ganking miners in high sec? OMG! the asteroid is depleted! |
Onictus
Silver Snake Enterprise Fatal Ascension
297
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Posted - 2013.07.13 17:20:00 -
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Harry Forever wrote:Khanh'rhh wrote:Harry Forever wrote:Khanh'rhh wrote:Are people congratulating themselves on flying to a 0.0 system that's been largely deserted for a month, under cloak, ITT? are goons congratulating themselves for such deserted comments? killed over 30 ships the last 2 weeks, seems you are all undocking with your eyes shut Yes, this is literally the case since you light the cyno on station then worry about the other client and making that ship safe. Whether the cyno ship still exists to re-dock and do this again is an afterthought, since it usually costs less than the fuel. Anyway, I posted in your other thread about how to do better than cyno ships. you mean shooting cynos is sensless like ganking miners in high sec?
Much lower value, we use nearly unfit T1 frigs for a reason. |
Harry Forever
SpaceJunkys
358
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Posted - 2013.07.13 17:30:00 -
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Onictus wrote:Harry Forever wrote:Khanh'rhh wrote:Harry Forever wrote:Khanh'rhh wrote:Are people congratulating themselves on flying to a 0.0 system that's been largely deserted for a month, under cloak, ITT? are goons congratulating themselves for such deserted comments? killed over 30 ships the last 2 weeks, seems you are all undocking with your eyes shut Yes, this is literally the case since you light the cyno on station then worry about the other client and making that ship safe. Whether the cyno ship still exists to re-dock and do this again is an afterthought, since it usually costs less than the fuel. Anyway, I posted in your other thread about how to do better than cyno ships. you mean shooting cynos is sensless like ganking miners in high sec? Much lower value, we use nearly unfit T1 frigs for a reason.
like hounds and stuff I know, check my killboard, 280m shot down already OMG! the asteroid is depleted! |
Jimmy Morane
Aurora Novae Aetatis Expoit This Mf's
104
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Posted - 2013.07.13 18:16:00 -
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Ace Uoweme wrote:Daimon Kaiera wrote:Every single thread I see about someone in high-sec hating on the Goons just makes me laugh a bit on the inside; I wonder how many of these people who, supposedly, hate the Goons actually do so for a personal reason (Got scammed &c), or just because they were told from their pubbie friends about how Goons were all twirling mustache boogeymen. I knew about BL before the Goons. I don't like them not because they did anything to me personally, but because they're Wal-Mart II. If you're from the EU and don't understand it: Wal-Mart II = Deutsche Telekom. A monopoly. Bad. Bad. Bad.
Walmart is not a monopoly. A bit Borg-like but not a monopoly.
*Looks around*
o/ HI Jar Jar........errrr I mean Harry!!! |
Onictus
Silver Snake Enterprise Fatal Ascension
297
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Posted - 2013.07.13 18:30:00 -
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[quote=Harry Forever[/quote]
Don't look at my killboard then, 280 mil is like one kill.
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Harry Forever
SpaceJunkys
358
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Posted - 2013.07.13 18:51:00 -
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Onictus wrote: Don't look at my killboard then, 280 mil is like one kill.
yet more people are interested in me killing cynos, bummer huh? OMG! the asteroid is depleted! |
Herzog Wolfhammer
Sigma Special Tactics Group
3077
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Posted - 2013.07.14 04:20:00 -
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Buzzing Mittanigrad then having tengus pop out is more exciting that getting big ISK kills in a fleet.
You know eventually these guys are going to be trained up for bombers.
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Onictus
Silver Snake Enterprise Fatal Ascension
297
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Posted - 2013.07.14 06:32:00 -
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Herzog Wolfhammer wrote:Buzzing Mittanigrad then having tengus pop out is more exciting that getting big ISK kills in a fleet.
You know eventually these guys are going to be trained up for bombers.
Killing cyno ships? Really? |
Herzog Wolfhammer
Sigma Special Tactics Group
3079
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Posted - 2013.07.14 07:10:00 -
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Onictus wrote:Herzog Wolfhammer wrote:Buzzing Mittanigrad then having tengus pop out is more exciting that getting big ISK kills in a fleet.
You know eventually these guys are going to be trained up for bombers.
Killing cyno ships? Really?
We gotta kill something. There's guns on these ships it would be a crime not to use them. |
Ragnarok vs-Goons Ragnarok
State War Academy Caldari State
4
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Posted - 2013.07.14 13:11:00 -
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Harry Forever wrote:Onictus wrote: Don't look at my killboard then, 280 mil is like one kill.
yet more people are interested in my cyno-kills, bummer huh? Hope i can bring you more suport,hawe posted this link in local chat and will keep doing it if you dont minde.so fare i hawent recived anny kill mail,and no more donation.so if all i do giving you more suport thats good to.and 1 more thing you shud always put up the ingame name on the shannel your jusing evry time you make a new post. |
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Harry Forever
SpaceJunkys
362
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Posted - 2013.07.14 13:24:00 -
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Ragnarok vs-Goons Ragnarok wrote:Harry Forever wrote:Onictus wrote: Don't look at my killboard then, 280 mil is like one kill.
yet more people are interested in my cyno-kills, bummer huh? Hope i can bring you more suport,hawe posted this link in local chat and will keep doing it if you dont minde.so fare i haw nott recived anny kill mail,and no more donation.so if all i do giving you more suport thats good to.and 1 more thing you shud always put up the ingame name on the shannel your jusing evry time you make a new post.
I already told you that you should stop using my thread to scam people, you sure are a very intelligent person who can bring much more content to the game differently OMG! the asteroid is depleted! |
Ragnarok vs-Goons Ragnarok
State War Academy Caldari State
4
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Posted - 2013.07.14 14:00:00 -
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Harry Forever wrote:Ragnarok vs-Goons Ragnarok wrote:Harry Forever wrote:Onictus wrote: Don't look at my killboard then, 280 mil is like one kill.
yet more people are interested in my cyno-kills, bummer huh? Hope i can bring you more suport,hawe posted this link in local chat and will keep doing it if you dont minde.so fare i haw nott recived anny kill mail,and no more donation.so if all i do giving you more suport thats good to.and 1 more thing you shud always put up the ingame name on the shannel your jusing evry time you make a new post. yea waste your time with that silly scam your trying, very smart idea, two thumbs up you are the greatest support I ever dreamed of, honestly you are the main reason I play EvE stalking scammers that is what the game needs, you really bring the fun, thanks for that your replay make me wonder if your nott just a goon,you newer trayed to send a kill mail i hawe 1 milliard isk to giwe away and no donation needed to recive reward. |
Khergit Deserters
Estel Arador Corp Services
1336
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Posted - 2013.07.14 14:08:00 -
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Ragnarok, bring a ship to VFK. Nobody will doubt you if you're shooting Goons. Besides, we're having lots of fun there. |
Harry Forever
SpaceJunkys
362
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Posted - 2013.07.14 14:12:00 -
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Ragnarok vs-Goons Ragnarok wrote:Harry Forever wrote:Ragnarok vs-Goons Ragnarok wrote:Harry Forever wrote:Onictus wrote: Don't look at my killboard then, 280 mil is like one kill.
yet more people are interested in my cyno-kills, bummer huh? Hope i can bring you more suport,hawe posted this link in local chat and will keep doing it if you dont minde.so fare i haw nott recived anny kill mail,and no more donation.so if all i do giving you more suport thats good to.and 1 more thing you shud always put up the ingame name on the shannel your jusing evry time you make a new post. yea waste your time with that silly scam your trying, very smart idea, two thumbs up you are the greatest support I ever dreamed of, honestly you are the main reason I play EvE stalking scammers that is what the game needs, you really bring the fun, thanks for that your replay make me wonder if your nott just a goon,you newer trayed to send a kill mail i hawe 1 milliard isk to giwe away and no donation needed to recive reward.
I already told you that you should stop using my thread to scam people, you sure are a very intelligent person who can bring much more content to the game differently OMG! the asteroid is depleted! |
Harry Forever
SpaceJunkys
362
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Posted - 2013.07.14 14:12:00 -
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after cloaked up cynos and cyno traps the goons are bringing new wartactics to the battlefied, selfdestruct of cynos... this technique was developed behind closed doors for the last 2 weeks, special training classes where held and now brougght to VFK
all carebears need to watch this ruthless killing of capital, only to be seen in VFK OMG! the asteroid is depleted! |
Ragnarok vs-Goons Ragnarok
State War Academy Caldari State
4
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Posted - 2013.07.14 14:15:00 -
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i nowe think this tred is a goon ploy to miscredite anny real atempt at getting at them,hi who control information wins the war. |
Harry Forever
SpaceJunkys
362
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Posted - 2013.07.14 14:26:00 -
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Ragnarok vs-Goons Ragnarok wrote:i nowe think this tred is a goon ploy to miscredite anny real atempt at getting at them,hi who control information wins the war.
tho phuny, rearey OMG! the asteroid is depleted! |
Aiwha
Infinite Point Nulli Secunda
525
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Posted - 2013.07.14 14:42:00 -
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Ragnarok vs-Goons Ragnarok wrote:i nowe think this tred is a goon ploy to miscredite anny real atempt at getting at them,hi who control information wins the war.
Not really. If that was the case goons would have won by now. He who shows up to timers wins the war. Goons have difficulty with that. Lock up your staions and hide your daughters.
Nulli incoming |
soldieroffortune 258
No-Mercy Spaceship Samurai
9
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Posted - 2013.07.14 14:53:00 -
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https://twitter.com/geistreiches/status/351352011389816832/photo/1
Is that a Rifter with Blasters? |
Elizabeth Aideron
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
95
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Posted - 2013.07.14 14:57:00 -
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Aiwha wrote:Ragnarok vs-Goons Ragnarok wrote:i nowe think this tred is a goon ploy to miscredite anny real atempt at getting at them,hi who control information wins the war. Not really. If that was the case goons would have won by now. He who shows up to timers wins the war. Goons have difficulty with that.
http://eve-kill.net/?a=kill_detail&kll_id=18750107 |
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Harry Forever
SpaceJunkys
362
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Posted - 2013.07.14 15:02:00 -
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soldieroffortune 258 wrote:
I have seen hounds making cynos, VFK is a strange place OMG! the asteroid is depleted! |
Atreides 47
Atreides of Arrakis
8
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Posted - 2013.07.14 20:55:00 -
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So you foolishly think that carebears can do anything except feeding Goonswarm with wrecks ? What a joke of a goon's agent. Long Live the Fighters ! |
Herzog Wolfhammer
Sigma Special Tactics Group
3082
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Posted - 2013.07.15 00:27:00 -
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I don't care what anybody says, this is the most fun I have had since the Sansha live events.
Now I'm trying to train up a PVP alt with maximized effect with as little SP as possible (cheap clones you see), just like so many forum posts that I have seen saying that people should do just that.
Of course it would be kinda wrong to have over 70 million SP and be telling noobs with less than a few million to do this. But who knows what I'll do.
Simply put, what I am doing now, after 7 years in the game, is what I should have done had there been proper guidance. There was no guidance, and the propaganda and false paradigms of "the way nullsec works" is what channels people into these ruts where they think they need tons of SP and ISK to 'go to null' or 'get started in PVP' - the usual cliche we see all of the time in the forums and corporation chat.
Yes it's nice to be a skillhore (I can't stand those little green check marks) that can do a lot of things, but that's not the design of the SP system.
Whoever it was that set up these lies, knew beforehand they could conquer the game not by waging war of attrition but by putting the minds of other players in a cage.
When we consider this, we have to look into how nullsec was conquered: by selling the same carebearism on which highsec is blamed for being the scourge of all things Eve. This is why there are carebears on both sides of the "Great Wall of Carebear".
And this is why nullsec is set up for more epic butthurt than any "Hulkageddon" or "Burn Jita" event ever devised.
Because if highsec allied loosely enough not to be decced and noob-harvested, and simply did what is being recommended in this thread, it would be an exercise in the sort of asymmetric warfare that has broken many real world armies in the past.
But all warfare is economic, you see. When you are in a Rifter with say, 6 million ISK invested, and someone who went to nullsec to run anoms in their Tengu has to chase you down, they might get you. But it takes time.
Now, in the time it takes to catch Mr Rifter and pod him back to highsec, how much ISK would you have made if you could have peacefully carebeared it up running anoms out there in nullsec?
That Rifter cost you way more than it did the person who was flying it.
And that person you podded will be back.
You wanna be a pirate? You wanna grief? You wanna gank? Why are you in highsec? Why are you camping in lowsec? Maybe you might drive a noob out of the game. So what. There will be more of them. If you don't drive the noob out, he'll know better than to end up in your gate camp again, or go AFK with that hauler. Then you'll be here, in these forums, complaining to CCP and asking for idiotic things to arbitrarily force other players into your camp.
Oh I know, you "gotta get your stats up" before some nullsec entity will recruit you becase some idiot says so. That idiot will see green or red and not see hapless noobs in rookie ships, haulers, etc. You might look leet to the stupid. To the rest of us who see through this crap, you look stupid. They put you in a little hamster wheel and you gleefully ran in it.
Fact is, you got told that highsec is "the problem" by the people who lord it up in nullsec and desperately want to maintain the paradigms that highsec is your enemy, that it's unfair, that they deserve to be griefed and ganked for being carebears.
If you fell for it, you were a tool. You were shooting the wrong people. Take a deep breath and admit you got fooled.
It does not matter one bit what "sandbox/litter box" play you foist on highsec because someone told you they have it too easy there. Like I said, you might drive a noob out of the game. Big deal.
But it does matter that, if the grief/gank thing is your speed, you can make a world of difference on nullsec. No, you won't die in a fire in two minutes, and if someone drops a cap blob on your destroyer group you already won.
But if you don't want targets that can shoot back, then at least admit it, and keep camping that gate in Amamake or Old Man Star in hope that some noob jumps in. We really laugh at those rookie ships and month-old pods on your killboards.
The best part of all of this is that because we are NOT playing station games and aggro fu (which many say they are forced to because CCP likes carebears or something) , because we did not fall for the lies of "you get ganked/hot dropped by the big alliance in 2 minutes!!!1!! run!!! Marsha Marsha Marsha!!!!" , we are actually getting 1on1 fights and small gang fights.
Yes, these "holy grails" of PVP that everybody complains they can't get any more. I had a nice Rifter versus Corax (died) and Breacher versus Rifter (ran off with a boatload of adrenalin) encounter in this endeavor, and then nearly got trapped at Mittanigrad but careful SS positioning saved the day. Not bad for a noob character with no cloak (seriously guys, those Sisters Combat probes are wasted on you - do you want me to teach you how to use them?) . I expect to die. This is Eve: expect to die.
It's not the mechanics of the game, it's not CCP trying to turn Eve into "WoW in space", it's the lies, the false paradigms, of "how nullsec works". It's the impressions that "he who has the most ISK wins". It's this "Eve is all about doing X, Y, Z and profit? and any deviation is fail".
Bullshit.
Get a ship, get out there. Shoot. I am watching both noobs with less than 5M SP and experienced players with expensive rigs (Russians, by the way - they actually do PVP of the sort with "P" on both sides of "V" and are adults about it) getting into some great fights. Some win, some lose. It's a game after all, so let's start acting like it. |
Onictus
Silver Snake Enterprise Fatal Ascension
297
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Posted - 2013.07.15 03:04:00 -
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Aiwha wrote:Ragnarok vs-Goons Ragnarok wrote:i nowe think this tred is a goon ploy to miscredite anny real atempt at getting at them,hi who control information wins the war. Not really. If that was the case goons would have won by now. He who shows up to timers wins the war. Goons have difficulty with that.
Yeah, you keep setting timers for 4am EDT.......people have jobs and ****. |
Onictus
Silver Snake Enterprise Fatal Ascension
297
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Posted - 2013.07.15 03:07:00 -
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Herzog Wolfhammer wrote:I amazingly long sperg
Where do you come up with this noise? Hi sec people can't even run incursions without tons of drama.
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Herzog Wolfhammer
Sigma Special Tactics Group
3083
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Posted - 2013.07.15 03:24:00 -
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Onictus wrote:Herzog Wolfhammer wrote:I amazingly long sperg Where do you come up with this noise? Hi sec people can't even run incursions without tons of drama.
I'm not a big fan of the monetized and leet'ed up incursion thing, but note that they don't make the mistake of calling it "emergent gaming".
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Onictus
Silver Snake Enterprise Fatal Ascension
297
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Posted - 2013.07.15 03:36:00 -
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Herzog Wolfhammer wrote:Onictus wrote:Herzog Wolfhammer wrote:I amazingly long sperg Where do you come up with this noise? Hi sec people can't even run incursions without tons of drama. I'm not a big fan of the monetized and leet'ed up incursion thing, but note that they don't make the mistake of calling it "emergent gaming".
I dabbled in incursions a bit both before and after the vangaurd nerf.....it made null sec drama seem tame |
Alavaria Fera
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
3845
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Posted - 2013.07.15 03:55:00 -
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Onictus wrote:Aiwha wrote:Ragnarok vs-Goons Ragnarok wrote:i nowe think this tred is a goon ploy to miscredite anny real atempt at getting at them,hi who control information wins the war. Not really. If that was the case goons would have won by now. He who shows up to timers wins the war. Goons have difficulty with that. Yeah, you keep setting timers for 4am EDT.......people have jobs and ****. Our morale is dropping when we wake up and discover half a dozen timers disappeared to TEST's NC. brigade. There are no goons. The goons' 0.0 dream is over. Fountain will never fall. Deklein by September. Thought is not heresy, wrong thought is.
PL, NC., N3, Tribe, 401k, you are our only hope ! ~TEST2013 |
Ace Uoweme
Republic Military School Minmatar Republic
454
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Posted - 2013.07.15 06:42:00 -
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Onictus wrote:Herzog Wolfhammer wrote:I amazingly long sperg Where do you come up with this noise? Hi sec people can't even run incursions without tons of drama.
Every time there's leet gear players bring drama. It's why the newer PuRs in WoW don't have group loot anymore. They all get a goodie bag, and roll against themselves for loot now -- and look mom, no more ninjas too (a mechanic LONG needed in MMOs, as the loot dramas are ridiculous)! "In a world of universal deceit, telling the truth is a revolutionary act." ~George Orwell
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Ace Uoweme
Republic Military School Minmatar Republic
454
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Posted - 2013.07.15 06:49:00 -
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Herzog Wolfhammer wrote:]Because if highsec allied loosely enough not to be decced and noob-harvested, and simply did what is being recommended in this thread, it would be an exercise in the sort of asymmetric warfare that has broken many real world armies in the past.
That's not even needed.
To defeat the Goons is quite simple, but PvPers will do what PvPers naturally do -- not think things out.
Goons are heavily PvE based. Shooting down their ships won't matter. Got to shut the faucet off.
But no one is doing that, which is the most ironic thing about this "war". It's go with the motions of a war, but don't fight to win...just drain resources. "In a world of universal deceit, telling the truth is a revolutionary act." ~George Orwell
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