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Ryuu Shi
School of Applied Knowledge Caldari State
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Posted - 2013.06.23 11:18:00 -
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This thread again?
No to this plex for SP bull crap already you self entitled next gen/instant gratification such and such! Pay to win doesn't work and will quickly ruining EvEs unique SP system!
You want that sort of crap, go playing dust 514 as it was built around what you want other wise HTFU and be patient or quit... actually just quit and leave the system alone. Noob isn't really a status, it's the online equivalent of a 5-year old calling you a poopy fart head.
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Infinity Ziona
Cloakers
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Posted - 2013.06.23 11:19:00 -
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Danika Princip wrote:Infinity Ziona wrote:Omnathious Deninard wrote: Does buying a winning soccer team mean you will still win? You have to buy in to play poker so yes you have to pay for your cards. Buying a character is much different from buying SP. With SP it becomes PLEX for the FOTM, and that is bad it creates dissatisfaction as instant gratification leades to faster boredom.
Buying your soccer team is akin to subscribing. You still have to have ongoing training and so on. An analogy to buying characters and isk is buying off the refs so you an an advantage above and beyond the prescribed limitations. The set limitations in EvE is skill training and isk. Buying that defeats any purposeful play. No, the set limitation in EVE is Time. Buying a character means someone else did it, but time was still spent. Oh please.
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Harry Forever
SpaceJunkys
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Posted - 2013.06.23 11:35:00 -
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Omnathious Deninard wrote:...instant gratification leades to faster boredom.
you maybe right with the boredome, maybe it could be limited how many skill-time you can by per year for a character to keep the balance a bit better, i would have thought about 1-3 month skill-time plexable a year would be a good addition
so it would only be used to specialize a bit faster, but still makeing it impossible to purchase all skills right away OMG! the asteroid is depleted! |

Kirimeena D'Zbrkesbris
Republic Military Tax Avoiders
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Posted - 2013.06.23 11:41:00 -
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Infinity Ziona wrote:You do realise there are people selling characters trained specifically and perfectly for a role. They have never undocked. Its just an obfuscated way of CCP offering fully trained chars through 3rd parties. Have you ever thought where your food comes from? It doesnt magically appear when you pay money, it takes time and effort produce raw material, process it and transport to nearest shop so it would be convenient for you to go and buy. Same with characters in EvE: time and effort were spent, you just purchase the end product. |

Mag's
the united Negative Ten.
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Posted - 2013.06.23 11:41:00 -
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Mag's wrote:Infinity Ziona wrote:Mag's wrote:Infinity Ziona wrote: Buying characters and ISK broke the game a long time ago.
How so? Are you really asking me how circumventing all skill training and isk generation with real life money breaks a game? Would you take soccer seriously if you could buy goals? Would you play poker if your opposition could buy cards? This game is fun to play but thats all it is. In terms of compitition, WoW battlegrounds is more hardcore. You don't circumvent training, you trade ISK for someone else's time in doing the training and spending their time and money. Also you didn't answer the question, how so? How has this been breaking the game since 2004? Quoting myself, as someone seems to want to avoid answering.
Destination SkillQueue:- It's like assuming the lions will ignore you in the savannah, if you're small, fat and look helpless. |

Infinity Ziona
Cloakers
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Posted - 2013.06.23 11:51:00 -
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Mag's wrote:Infinity Ziona wrote:Mag's wrote:Infinity Ziona wrote: Buying characters and ISK broke the game a long time ago.
How so? Are you really asking me how circumventing all skill training and isk generation with real life money breaks a game? Would you take soccer seriously if you could buy goals? Would you play poker if your opposition could buy cards? This game is fun to play but thats all it is. In terms of compitition, WoW battlegrounds is more hardcore. You don't circumvent training, you trade ISK for someone else's time in doing the training and spending their time and money. Also you didn't answer the question, how so? How has this been breaking the game since 2004? Someone elses time is irrelevant. A noob with RL cash can be flying a titan in less than 24 hours. A noob with none has to wait a long long time. The first noobs gets blown up he can be back in a titan in a few hours. The second a long long time. The second noob is restricted by EvEs limitations. The first ignores them entirely. Thus the game is pointless in regards to competition.
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Infinity Ziona
Cloakers
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Posted - 2013.06.23 11:55:00 -
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Kirimeena D'Zbrkesbris wrote:Infinity Ziona wrote:You do realise there are people selling characters trained specifically and perfectly for a role. They have never undocked. Its just an obfuscated way of CCP offering fully trained chars through 3rd parties. Have you ever thought where your food comes from? It doesnt magically appear when you pay money, it takes time and effort produce raw material, process it and transport to nearest shop so it would be convenient for you to go and buy. Same with characters in EvE: time and effort were spent, you just purchase the end product. What you're not factoring into that equation is the time and effort required to make that cash to purchase that food. Since you can make money out of game and buy in game money your argument falls apart. There is no equality of effort. |

Mag's
the united Negative Ten.
15006
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Posted - 2013.06.23 12:38:00 -
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Infinity Ziona wrote:Mag's wrote:Infinity Ziona wrote:Mag's wrote:Infinity Ziona wrote: Buying characters and ISK broke the game a long time ago.
How so? Are you really asking me how circumventing all skill training and isk generation with real life money breaks a game? Would you take soccer seriously if you could buy goals? Would you play poker if your opposition could buy cards? This game is fun to play but thats all it is. In terms of compitition, WoW battlegrounds is more hardcore. You don't circumvent training, you trade ISK for someone else's time in doing the training and spending their time and money. Also you didn't answer the question, how so? How has this been breaking the game since 2004? Someone elses time is irrelevant. A noob with RL cash can be flying a titan in less than 24 hours. A noob with none has to wait a long long time. The first noobs gets blown up he can be back in a titan in a few hours. The second a long long time. The second noob is restricted by EvEs limitations. The first ignores them entirely. Thus the game is pointless in regards to competition. Let's say a Titan plus char and fittings is somewhere in the low region of 150 Billion. If someone wants to fork out -ú4177 to fly a Titan and lose it, then let them. If they lose it (which they will) and then spend another -ú3338 to get another then they are not 'winning' at Eve, they are merely being stupid with their cash and lot's of other people get play time.
But how does this break the game? Both the char, Titan and fittings, were all existing within the game already. The time and normal game mechanic to create those items were already played out. He merely circumvented the time aspect of the game. Someone else's time is completely relevant in this regard. If they hadn't spent the time training, buying, building, mining, trading and ratting for those items, they wouldn't exist.
So how has this been breaking Eve since 2004?
Destination SkillQueue:- It's like assuming the lions will ignore you in the savannah, if you're small, fat and look helpless. |

Infinity Ziona
Cloakers
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Posted - 2013.06.23 12:50:00 -
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Mag's wrote:Let's say a Titan plus char and fittings is somewhere in the low region of 150 Billion. If someone wants to fork out -ú4177 to fly a Titan and lose it, then let them. If they lose it (which they will) and then spend another -ú3338 to get another then they are not 'winning' at Eve, they are merely being stupid with their cash and lot's of other people get play time.
But how does this break the game? Both the char, Titan and fittings, were all existing within the game already. The time and normal game mechanic to create those items were already played out. He merely circumvented the time aspect of the game. Someone else's time is completely relevant in this regard. If they hadn't spent the time training, buying, building, mining, trading and ratting for those items, they wouldn't exist.
So how has this been breaking Eve since 2004? It makes competition pointless. A game where competing is pointless is a broken game.
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Mag's
the united Negative Ten.
15006
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Posted - 2013.06.23 13:05:00 -
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Infinity Ziona wrote:Mag's wrote:Let's say a Titan plus char and fittings is somewhere in the low region of 150 Billion. If someone wants to fork out -ú4177 to fly a Titan and lose it, then let them. If they lose it (which they will) and then spend another -ú3338 to get another then they are not 'winning' at Eve, they are merely being stupid with their cash and lot's of other people get play time.
But how does this break the game? Both the char, Titan and fittings, were all existing within the game already. The time and normal game mechanic to create those items were already played out. He merely circumvented the time aspect of the game. Someone else's time is completely relevant in this regard. If they hadn't spent the time training, buying, building, mining, trading and ratting for those items, they wouldn't exist.
So how has this been breaking Eve since 2004? It makes competition pointless. A game where competing is pointless is a broken game. How does it? Do they suddenly have skillz with the stuff they get? Does being a noob and owning a Titan make you uber and able to compete in Eve? I think not.
Your stance is also saying those without RL money, can go screw themselves if they wish to play. Nice.
So how has it been breaking Eve since 2004?
Destination SkillQueue:- It's like assuming the lions will ignore you in the savannah, if you're small, fat and look helpless. |

Omnathious Deninard
The Scope Gallente Federation
1206
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Posted - 2013.06.23 13:22:00 -
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Infinity Ziona wrote:Mag's wrote:Let's say a Titan plus char and fittings is somewhere in the low region of 150 Billion. If someone wants to fork out -ú4177 to fly a Titan and lose it, then let them. If they lose it (which they will) and then spend another -ú3338 to get another then they are not 'winning' at Eve, they are merely being stupid with their cash and lot's of other people get play time.
But how does this break the game? Both the char, Titan and fittings, were all existing within the game already. The time and normal game mechanic to create those items were already played out. He merely circumvented the time aspect of the game. Someone else's time is completely relevant in this regard. If they hadn't spent the time training, buying, building, mining, trading and ratting for those items, they wouldn't exist.
So how has this been breaking Eve since 2004? It makes competition pointless. A game where competing is pointless is a broken game. That does nothing to make competition pointless. Once on the battlefield SP has little to do with a pilots ability to use there ship. Ideas for Drone ImprovementTwitter Account-á @Omnathious |

Infinity Ziona
Cloakers
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Posted - 2013.06.23 15:01:00 -
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Mag's wrote:Infinity Ziona wrote:Mag's wrote:Let's say a Titan plus char and fittings is somewhere in the low region of 150 Billion. If someone wants to fork out -ú4177 to fly a Titan and lose it, then let them. If they lose it (which they will) and then spend another -ú3338 to get another then they are not 'winning' at Eve, they are merely being stupid with their cash and lot's of other people get play time.
But how does this break the game? Both the char, Titan and fittings, were all existing within the game already. The time and normal game mechanic to create those items were already played out. He merely circumvented the time aspect of the game. Someone else's time is completely relevant in this regard. If they hadn't spent the time training, buying, building, mining, trading and ratting for those items, they wouldn't exist.
So how has this been breaking Eve since 2004? It makes competition pointless. A game where competing is pointless is a broken game. How does it? Do they suddenly have skillz with the stuff they get? Does being a noob and owning a Titan make you uber and able to compete in Eve? I think not. Your stance is also saying those without RL money, can go screw themselves if they wish to play. Nice. So how has it been breaking Eve since 2004? I have answered your question multiple times. You appear incapable or unwilling to understand how buying your way with RL money in a competitive game breaks that game. I don't think further discussion will help. |

marVLs
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Posted - 2013.06.23 15:16:00 -
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Why this thread have more replays than 1 saying "no"? |

Mag's
the united Negative Ten.
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Posted - 2013.06.23 15:59:00 -
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Infinity Ziona wrote:Mag's wrote:Infinity Ziona wrote: It makes competition pointless. A game where competing is pointless is a broken game.
How does it? Do they suddenly have skillz with the stuff they get? Does being a noob and owning a Titan make you uber and able to compete in Eve? I think not. Your stance is also saying those without RL money, can go screw themselves if they wish to play. Nice. So how has it been breaking Eve since 2004? I have answered your question multiple times. You appear incapable or unwilling to understand how buying your way with RL money in a competitive game breaks that game. I don't think further discussion will help. Ahh I see, attack the poster instead of addressing the questions. Good move.
You suggest competition is broken simply because someone has a Titan and the char to use it. But how does simply owning those items, break competition? It obviously doesn't.
So do you honestly think that they are now uber and able to kill everyone? Do you believe they are now invincible and no one could kill them? Are you suggesting them even taking part, breaks competition?
For isn't the taking part and the use of the items, the time when competition you talk of take place? It can't be the competitive process of creating the items, as that has already taken place. So I must assume you mean combat PvP. You may believe anyone can jump in a new char and Titan and rule the universe, but I'm afraid that's not how Eve works. The taking part in combat PvP is simply that. Taking part. Unless you've found some special way to include skillz with these items, then sorry no competition is broken.
Also what about those without enough RL cash. Are you suggesting they should forget the game and not be able to play?
So as we can see it doesn't in fact break competition, the question remains.
How has it been breaking Eve since 2004?
Destination SkillQueue:- It's like assuming the lions will ignore you in the savannah, if you're small, fat and look helpless. |

Tippia
Sunshine and Lollipops
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Posted - 2013.06.23 16:03:00 -
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Infinity Ziona wrote:I have answered your question multiple times. You appear incapable or unwilling to understand how buying your way with RL money in a competitive game breaks that game. I don't think further discussion will help. Maybe if you actually explained how it did and how the current mechanics accomplished this, rather than just stating that they do without anything to back up such a statement, it would be easier to understandGǪ
GǪbecause, no, you've never answered the question. You've just repeated your baseless and unsupported assertion.
So how has it been breaking Eve since 2004? GÇ£If you're not willing to fight for what you have in GëívGëí you don't deserve it, and you will lose it.GÇ¥
Get a good start: newbie skill plan 2.0. |

Harry Forever
SpaceJunkys
153
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Posted - 2013.06.23 16:04:00 -
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Ifly Uwalk wrote:Harry Forever wrote:Sometimes I post entertaining sh*t. Sometimes I just post sh't. 
if you quote someone that means you leave the words of the OP and do not change them to some weard stuff that goes on in your head, please try to make that right next time, its not that hard
by the way you are blocked OMG! the asteroid is depleted! |

Evei Shard
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Posted - 2013.06.23 16:23:00 -
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Examples:
Corp A has 5 players Corp B has 5 players
Corp A wardecs corp B. 24hours later, the battles begin.
Corp A realizes they screwed up, but they have a guy with cash and a good computer that's willing to buy a character off the market that is skilled for being a full fledged T3 Booster pilot. He also buys a boosting ship and the links, and they put him in their POS or other safe locations (we'll pretend this war is in high-sec).
At this point, Corp A has an advantage over Corp B due to a RL cash transaction. Leaving OGB issues out of it, as it is just an example, how is this *not* a problem?
A lot of the other examples in the thread that are in support of such things use the idea of a newbie going out and buying a Titan. What I see as problems are experienced players with cash being able to go and buy advantages for their corp or alliance, vs. those who can't. Profit favors the prepared |

Harry Forever
SpaceJunkys
153
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Posted - 2013.06.23 16:30:00 -
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Evei Shard wrote:Examples:
Corp A has 5 players Corp B has 5 players
Corp A wardecs corp B. 24hours later, the battles begin.
Corp A realizes they screwed up, but they have a guy with cash and a good computer that's willing to buy a character off the market that is skilled for being a full fledged T3 Booster pilot. He also buys a boosting ship and the links, and they put him in their POS or other safe locations (we'll pretend this war is in high-sec).
At this point, Corp A has an advantage over Corp B due to a RL cash transaction. Leaving OGB issues out of it, as it is just an example, how is this *not* a problem?
A lot of the other examples in the thread that are in support of such things use the idea of a newbie going out and buying a Titan. What I see as problems are experienced players with cash being able to go and buy advantages for their corp or alliance, vs. those who can't.
what if we limit the time you can buy per year? what if everybody is just allowed to purchase 1-3 month of skill-time each year, that would not be that drastic and the game keeps the balance however new players could specialize faster in the game if they want OMG! the asteroid is depleted! |

Danika Princip
Freelance Economics Astrological resources Tactical Narcotics Team
1404
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Posted - 2013.06.23 17:22:00 -
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Infinity Ziona wrote:Danika Princip wrote:Infinity Ziona wrote:Omnathious Deninard wrote: Does buying a winning soccer team mean you will still win? You have to buy in to play poker so yes you have to pay for your cards. Buying a character is much different from buying SP. With SP it becomes PLEX for the FOTM, and that is bad it creates dissatisfaction as instant gratification leades to faster boredom.
Buying your soccer team is akin to subscribing. You still have to have ongoing training and so on. An analogy to buying characters and isk is buying off the refs so you an an advantage above and beyond the prescribed limitations. The set limitations in EvE is skill training and isk. Buying that defeats any purposeful play. No, the set limitation in EVE is Time. Buying a character means someone else did it, but time was still spent. Oh please.
My, what a compelling argument! You've convinced me! Time obviously doesn't matter at all in this game!
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Jureth22
Mind Games. Suddenly Spaceships.
99
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Posted - 2013.06.23 19:07:00 -
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this sort of makes sense.ccp is expecting players to pay for the second character a plex just to train it.why would the entire game be free,and pay plex for training? |

Harry Forever
SpaceJunkys
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Posted - 2013.06.23 19:12:00 -
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Jureth22 wrote:this sort of makes sense.ccp is expecting players to pay for the second character a plex just to train it.why would the entire game be free,and pay plex for training?
where did i write that the game should be free? you should just be able to purchase additional skilltime with plex, nothing else OMG! the asteroid is depleted! |

Amarra Mandalin
Red Federation RvB - RED Federation
683
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Posted - 2013.06.23 21:50:00 -
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Rhivre wrote:Meh, specialise...but then, everyone is impatient and wants to fly all the ships at once, when unless you are going for supercaps etc, 20m SP or so will get you most of what you want
Depending on what you want, it's closer to 30mil+ SP for a decently trained PvP character that can field T2 cruisers (LV IV), has BC V, and BS and/or Recon V (should you need either), SB and/or interceptor skills, with the rest of the SPs spent on some cross-training and/or a T3, leadership or whatnot. 40m is closer to the mark if your corp/alliance has broader doctrines you wish to take part in or you simply want more flexibility.
As for the OP -- my vote is No. More of a bad thing, (e.g. buying characters --which at least provides players with the Isk) doesn't make a bad thing better. |

Danika Princip
Freelance Economics Astrological resources Tactical Narcotics Team
1406
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Posted - 2013.06.23 22:07:00 -
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Amarra Mandalin wrote:Rhivre wrote:Meh, specialise...but then, everyone is impatient and wants to fly all the ships at once, when unless you are going for supercaps etc, 20m SP or so will get you most of what you want Depending on what you want, it's closer to 30mil+ SP for a decently trained PvP character that can field T2 cruisers (LV IV), has BC V, and BS and/or Recon V (should you need either), SB and/or interceptor skills, with the rest of the SPs spent on some cross-training and/or a T3, leadership or whatnot. 40m is closer to the mark if your corp/alliance has broader doctrines you wish to take part in or you simply want more flexibility in subcaps. As for the OP -- my vote is No. More of a bad thing, (e.g. buying characters --which at least provides players with the Isk) doesn't make a bad thing better.
You don't need any of that for a competent PVP character though... |

Infinity Ziona
Cloakers
123
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Posted - 2013.06.24 02:19:00 -
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Omnathious Deninard wrote:Infinity Ziona wrote:Mag's wrote:Let's say a Titan plus char and fittings is somewhere in the low region of 150 Billion. If someone wants to fork out -ú4177 to fly a Titan and lose it, then let them. If they lose it (which they will) and then spend another -ú3338 to get another then they are not 'winning' at Eve, they are merely being stupid with their cash and lot's of other people get play time.
But how does this break the game? Both the char, Titan and fittings, were all existing within the game already. The time and normal game mechanic to create those items were already played out. He merely circumvented the time aspect of the game. Someone else's time is completely relevant in this regard. If they hadn't spent the time training, buying, building, mining, trading and ratting for those items, they wouldn't exist.
So how has this been breaking Eve since 2004? It makes competition pointless. A game where competing is pointless is a broken game. That does nothing to make competition pointless. Once on the battlefield SP has little to do with a pilots ability to use there ship. This is so wrong. SP and modules + ship are the most important thing in EvE. Pick any ship you like with any fitting I can teach a noob with all skills for that ship at 5's, T2 / faction / deadspace mods to fly it competently in an hour on test and kill a very experienced pilot in a lesser ship with skills trained to 3 for that ship and normal T1 modules.
People like to pretend player skill is important but its not. And it becomes less so the more people are added until its completely irrelevent in blobs.
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Yeep
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
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Posted - 2013.06.24 10:12:00 -
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Evei Shard wrote:Examples:
Corp A has 5 players Corp B has 5 players
Corp A wardecs corp B. 24hours later, the battles begin.
Corp A realizes they screwed up, but they have a guy with cash and a good computer that's willing to buy a character off the market that is skilled for being a full fledged T3 Booster pilot. He also buys a boosting ship and the links, and they put him in their POS or other safe locations (we'll pretend this war is in high-sec).
At this point, Corp A has an advantage over Corp B due to a RL cash transaction. Leaving OGB issues out of it, as it is just an example, how is this *not* a problem?
A lot of the other examples in the thread that are in support of such things use the idea of a newbie going out and buying a Titan. What I see as problems are experienced players with cash being able to go and buy advantages for their corp or alliance, vs. those who can't.
So a member of Corp B buys 2 of his Eve playing friends a drink and they agree to help him out for the duration of the war. Corp B has performed a (considerably cheaper) RL cash transaction and now they have the upper hand.
Buying characters is only an issue if you impose stupid limits on your engagements. |

Caleb Seremshur
Angel of War Whores in space
23
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Posted - 2013.06.24 10:35:00 -
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Expanding on that, it won't really benefit CCP in the long run to be allowing players who don't understand the game at all to start a trial account, buy a heap of plex and skill up their toon to 50mil and then have said player get his butt ruffled and cry about it all over the internet.
Partially because throwing players in to the deep end doesn't really work in EVE from a sustainability perspective especially once real $ enters the equation (been there personally) and partially because people out in the web responding to such comments aren't helping either with their sarcastic and narcassistic remarks. |

Mark Androcius
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Posted - 2013.06.24 10:46:00 -
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Knights Armament wrote:Remember most people in eve are against ideas like this because they have a vested interest in characters, some people earn isk by creating characters to be sold on the bazaar, when considering peoples opinions remember that bias.
Now I believe EvE should be free to play, and isk can be purchased via plex, directly from ccp. I think they would increase the playerbase, and revenue would also increase from isk sales, 3rd party websites are already trading isk at half the cost of plex with a simple google search, and CCP is losing money, I think CCP could initialize some type of isk buy back program to give veterans a means of earning an income from playing EvE, I know of players who sell wow gold to the Chinese at half or less value than retail just to get rid of it.
How is CCP losing money due to 3rd party isk sellers? explain this to us please. Every plex in the game, has been and will always be bought by someone from CCP, so whether you buy it with RMT begotten isk, hard work deserved isk, PI isk, character trading isk or plain out RL money, CCP makes the money for each and every subscription, guaranteed. If a man speaks his mind in the forest and no woman hears him, is he still wrong? |

Samillian
Angry Mustellid
253
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Posted - 2013.06.24 11:03:00 -
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Harry Forever wrote: yea i know maybe its a bit drastic, but it needs to be said this way, there could be an option to be able to buy skill-time only 3 month per year or something like that... for an new player the training time just seems to be too much, there must be a way at least to spezialize a character in one area faster
the older the game gets the more it will be needed as many high trained characters make your life as a newb not easy, I was able to trade up enough money so i could fly bigger ships fast, but do not have the skill to do it, I feel that restriction needs some adjustment
it was implemented to keep early players longer in the game, but it seems to be a big burden for new players now
Everybody has to start somewhere, I understand you have good intentions but how long before the system you propose leads to
"l want to use everything now! Here is my credit card!"
Part of the joy of this game is achieving goals, having to take time to train for a ship or ability makes them much more highly valued and worth while. I believe the system you propose will lead only to an instant gratification culture which will devalue the the game to the point it is not worth playing.
As to the character bazaar I have never liked it and would see the trade in characters shutdown if it were not for the fact it would just shift it to markets out of CCP's control. NBSI shall be the whole of the Law |

Jint Hikaru
OffWorld Exploration Inc
628
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Posted - 2013.06.24 11:23:00 -
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gotta love it when 2 month old players start making these huge game changing suggestions.
Also funny how often its, 'waaa I want more Skill Points, people who've been playing for 5 years have more than me!'
Jint Hikaru - Miner / Salvager / Explorer / SpaceBum In the beginning the Universe was created. This has made a lot of people very angry and been widely regarded as a bad move. |

Harry Forever
SpaceJunkys
155
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Posted - 2013.06.24 11:25:00 -
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Jint Hikaru wrote:gotta love it when 2 month old players start making these huge game changing suggestions.
Also funny how often its, 'waaa I want more Skill Points, people who've been playing for 5 years have more than me!'
yea minds are often blocked with experience and they can not see what clearly is needed anymore, thats why I'm here for you
thanks for your support, its always good when the old understand the young OMG! the asteroid is depleted! |
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