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Harry Forever
SpaceJunkys
146
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Posted - 2013.06.22 20:31:00 -
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yes I did say it, I want to be able to purchase skill time and pay with plex, one plex one month skill-time, thats it
why do we we want this, and why is it fair:
* in order to play the game properly and beeing able to fight other opponets a certain skill is needed * long time players did pay for their skill as well because they did subscribe for it longer * if a new player wants to pay down that skill time at once he should be able to do so
* you can somehow purchase skill time already when you purchase a character from another players
so why not make it possible to purchase skill time direclty with plex?
is this pay to win? ask yourself, did long time players not also pay to win with their years of subscription?
at the end, it would be the same either you stay long time subscribed and train up or you pay down early
everybody should be able to choose the method
and it would help newcomers to get into the game faster as well OMG! the asteroid is depleted! |

KnowUsByTheDead
Knights of the Dark Rose
120
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Posted - 2013.06.22 20:34:00 -
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Harry, stick to your war on VFK. Gotta keep the carebears hopes up.
Posting in the third "EVE Skill Training is not fair " threads I have seen this weekend. |

Knights Armament
Yale Socialite Club
28
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Posted - 2013.06.22 20:35:00 -
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Harry Forever wrote:yes I did say it, I want to be able to purchase skill time and pay with plex, one plex one month skill-time, thats it
why do we we want this, and why is it fair:
* in order to play the game properly and beeing able to fight other opponets a certain skill is needed * long time players did pay for their skill as well because they did subscribe for it longer * if a new player wants to pay down that skill time at once he should be able to do so
* you can somehow purchase skill time already when you purchase a character from another players
so why not make it possible to purchase skill time direclty with plex?
is this pay to win? ask yourself, did long time players not also pay to win with their years of subscription?
at the end, it would be the same either you stay long time subscribed and train up or you pay down early
everybody should be able to choose the method
and it would help newcomers to get into the game faster as well
I am a huge proponent of pay to win in video games, I physically left the house to purchase a League Of Legends gift card at the wal-mart down the street, I bragged to the cashier how I was going to purchase a champion called Darius, I opted to purchase the Lord Darius skin as well, that way people take me serious as a Darius player in the top lane.
I was stoked and quite pleased with my purchase.
When the DUST is settled, everything will change.
EVERYTHING |

Harry Forever
SpaceJunkys
146
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Posted - 2013.06.22 20:40:00 -
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KnowUsByTheDead wrote:Harry, stick to your war on VFK. Gotta keep the carebears hopes up. Posting in the third "EVE Skill Training is not fair  " threads I have seen this weekend.
its just a transaction method added, like I mentioned you can basically buy skilltime already when you purchase a character from another player OMG! the asteroid is depleted! |

Mr M
Agony Unleashed
288
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Posted - 2013.06.22 20:43:00 -
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No. Specialise and/or buy a character from the character bazaar.
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Harry Forever
SpaceJunkys
146
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Posted - 2013.06.22 20:46:00 -
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Mr M wrote:No. Specialise and/or buy a character from the character bazaar.
like I did say, its just another transaction added, I do not want to trade characters, I want to purchase the skill time directly
as explained this would be fair for old and new players alike, nothing to worry about... OMG! the asteroid is depleted! |

Knights Armament
Yale Socialite Club
28
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Posted - 2013.06.22 20:58:00 -
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Harry Forever wrote:Mr M wrote:No. Specialise and/or buy a character from the character bazaar. like I did say, its just another transaction added, I do not want to trade characters, I want to purchase the skill time directly as explained this would be fair for old and new players alike, nothing to worry about...
I would be ok with allowing dual skill training, the dual alt training was a good idea but executed poorly, why not just allow you to train 2 skills at a time instead of 1 for more plex?
It benefits EvE because more plexes will be sold, and it won't be an instant skill point experience so their is still a reason to keep a 2nd account.
Also if any CCP developers are reading my posts, I want to inform them that all of my suggestions are the property of Knights Armament, and any copying or ip theft will be punished to the fullest extent of international and national law. All ideas are Trade Marks of Knights Armament, any suggestion posted can be purchased from Knights Armament, feel free to contact Knights Armament in game to discuss IP procurement. -áAll of my suggestions are the property of Knights Armament, and any copying or ip theft will be punished to the fullest extent of international and national law. All ideas are Trade Marks of Knights Armament, any suggestion posted can be purchased from Knights Armament, feel free to contact Knights Armament in game to discuss IP procurement. |

Doc Fury
Furious Enterprises
2587
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Posted - 2013.06.22 20:59:00 -
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0/10
The accumulated filth of all their sex and murder will foam up about their waists and all the ho's and politicians will look up and shout 'Save us!' and I'll look down, and whisper 'Hodor'. |

BORRIS DEMONTFORD
THE OFFENDERS
14
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Posted - 2013.06.22 21:00:00 -
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Harry Forever wrote:Mr M wrote:No. Specialise and/or buy a character from the character bazaar. like I did say, its just another transaction added, I do not want to trade characters, I want to purchase the skill time directly as explained this would be fair for old and new players alike, nothing to worry about...
Its already fair for old and new players alike, characters can be bought for isk, isk can be bought for rl monies via plex. |

Harry Forever
SpaceJunkys
146
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Posted - 2013.06.22 21:06:00 -
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BORRIS DEMONTFORD wrote:Harry Forever wrote:Mr M wrote:No. Specialise and/or buy a character from the character bazaar. like I did say, its just another transaction added, I do not want to trade characters, I want to purchase the skill time directly as explained this would be fair for old and new players alike, nothing to worry about... Its already fair for old and new players alike, characters can be bought for isk, isk can be bought for rl monies via plex.
yea I mentioned that already, I just want direct transaction method for it, should not be a problem for anybody OMG! the asteroid is depleted! |

baltec1
Bat Country
6971
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Posted - 2013.06.22 21:10:00 -
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No. |

Zircon Dasher
269
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Posted - 2013.06.22 21:14:00 -
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Harry Forever wrote: yea I mentioned that already, I just want direct transaction method for it, should not be a problem for anybody
Never happen. The middle-men DO NOT want to get cut out. Nerfing High-sec is never the answer. It is the question. The answer is 'YES'. |

Stonecrusher Mortlock
University of Caille Gallente Federation
160
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Posted - 2013.06.22 21:17:00 -
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Harry Forever wrote:yes I did say it, I want to be able to purchase skill time and pay with plex, one plex one month skill-time, thats it
why do we we want this, and why is it fair:
* in order to play the game properly and beeing able to fight other opponets a certain skill is needed * long time players did pay for their skill as well because they did subscribe for it longer * if a new player wants to pay down that skill time at once he should be able to do so
* you can somehow purchase skill time already when you purchase a character from another players
so why not make it possible to purchase skill time direclty with plex?
is this pay to win? ask yourself, did long time players not also pay to win with their years of subscription?
at the end, it would be the same either you stay long time subscribed and train up or you pay down early
everybody should be able to choose the method
and it would help newcomers to get into the game faster as well
not sure if troll,
buy your plex and go to the bazarr and buy the one you want.
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Knights Armament
Yale Socialite Club
28
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Posted - 2013.06.22 21:19:00 -
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Remember most people in eve are against ideas like this because they have a vested interest in characters, some people earn isk by creating characters to be sold on the bazaar, when considering peoples opinions remember that bias.
Now I believe EvE should be free to play, and isk can be purchased via plex, directly from ccp. I think they would increase the playerbase, and revenue would also increase from isk sales, 3rd party websites are already trading isk at half the cost of plex with a simple google search, and CCP is losing money, I think CCP could initialize some type of isk buy back program to give veterans a means of earning an income from playing EvE, I know of players who sell wow gold to the Chinese at half or less value than retail just to get rid of it.
-áAll of my suggestions are the property of Knights Armament, and any copying or ip theft will be punished to the fullest extent of international and national law. All ideas are Trade Marks of Knights Armament, any suggestion posted can be purchased from Knights Armament, feel free to contact Knights Armament in game to discuss IP procurement. |

Sex Slave Girl
Federal Navy Academy Gallente Federation
80
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Posted - 2013.06.22 21:23:00 -
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Are you kidding? Eve free to play? It will be TiDi all over space. 23/7 guarenteed. |

space submarine
35
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Posted - 2013.06.22 21:23:00 -
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Life is a P2W game, if EVE is real then it should be to.
Checkmate nerds |

Rhivre
TarNec Invisible Exchequer
291
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Posted - 2013.06.22 21:26:00 -
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Meh, specialise...but then, everyone is impatient and wants to fly all the ships at once, when unless you are going for supercaps etc, 20m SP or so will get you most of what you want |

Knights Armament
Yale Socialite Club
28
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Posted - 2013.06.22 21:29:00 -
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space submarine wrote:Life is a P2W game, if EVE is real then it should be to.
Checkmate nerds
You're wrong, life can be played without paying for anything.
You can claim disability or live off your parents, disability provides montly income directly from the bottomless pit of the federal reserve, you can then apply for section 8 housing to get reduced "free" rent at the expense of the federal reserve, in exchange for these benefits I don't kill them or cause them any problems with their racketeering pyramid scheme, however if they wish to go to war then I am up for it, because I am keeping it G.
Now that I have proved life is not pay 2 win, and can be cheated, EvE is the same. -áAll of my suggestions are the property of Knights Armament, and any copying or ip theft will be punished to the fullest extent of international and national law. All ideas are Trade Marks of Knights Armament, any suggestion posted can be purchased from Knights Armament, feel free to contact Knights Armament in game to discuss IP procurement. |

Domanique Altares
Rifterlings Point Blank Alliance
447
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Posted - 2013.06.22 21:32:00 -
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I hope you don't spend too much time coming up with all this ****. Rifterlings Corporation is now recruiting pilots for faction warfare solo & small gang frigate PvP. Visit our website at www.rifterlings.com or join our in game channel weflyrifters to speak to a recruiter. |

space submarine
35
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Posted - 2013.06.22 21:35:00 -
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Knights Armament wrote:space submarine wrote:Life is a P2W game, if EVE is real then it should be to.
Checkmate nerds You're wrong, life can be played without paying for anything. You can claim disability or live off your parents, disability provides montly income directly from the bottomless pit of the federal reserve, you can then apply for section 8 housing to get reduced "free" rent at the expense of the federal reserve, in exchange for these benefits I don't kill them or cause them any problems with their racketeering pyramid scheme, however if they wish to go to war then I am up for it, because I am keeping it G. Now that I have proved life is not pay 2 win, and can be cheated, EvE is the same.
Good luck buying top-class hookers and blow with no cash monies hombre
But to your point, CCP should be giving SP disability to new and casual players. They sort of do this already with training boosters, but if it was truly real this program would be expanded for players with 50m SP or less. |

Knights Armament
Yale Socialite Club
28
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Posted - 2013.06.22 21:42:00 -
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space submarine wrote:Knights Armament wrote:space submarine wrote:Life is a P2W game, if EVE is real then it should be to.
Checkmate nerds You're wrong, life can be played without paying for anything. You can claim disability or live off your parents, disability provides montly income directly from the bottomless pit of the federal reserve, you can then apply for section 8 housing to get reduced "free" rent at the expense of the federal reserve, in exchange for these benefits I don't kill them or cause them any problems with their racketeering pyramid scheme, however if they wish to go to war then I am up for it, because I am keeping it G. Now that I have proved life is not pay 2 win, and can be cheated, EvE is the same. Good luck buying top-class hookers and blow with no cash monies hombre But to your point, CCP should be giving SP disability to new and casual players. They sort of do this already with training boosters, but if it was truly real this program would be expanded for players with 50m SP or less.
A man doesn't need to buy the *****, if you treat the ***** right it comes to you for free, an alpha doesn't need ***** at all, he takes it.
I however have spaceships, ***** isn't a requirement because the internet is more relevant, it is the information age afterall, and I can no longer see my ***** when not erect. -áAll of my suggestions are the property of Knights Armament, and any copying or ip theft will be punished to the fullest extent of international and national law. All ideas are Trade Marks of Knights Armament, any suggestion posted can be purchased from Knights Armament, feel free to contact Knights Armament in game to discuss IP procurement. |

Azurae
South West Trading
57
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Posted - 2013.06.22 21:44:00 -
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space submarine wrote:Knights Armament wrote:space submarine wrote:Life is a P2W game, if EVE is real then it should be to.
Checkmate nerds You're wrong, life can be played without paying for anything. You can claim disability or live off your parents, disability provides montly income directly from the bottomless pit of the federal reserve, you can then apply for section 8 housing to get reduced "free" rent at the expense of the federal reserve, in exchange for these benefits I don't kill them or cause them any problems with their racketeering pyramid scheme, however if they wish to go to war then I am up for it, because I am keeping it G. Now that I have proved life is not pay 2 win, and can be cheated, EvE is the same. Good luck buying top-class hookers and blow with no cash monies hombre But to your point, CCP should be giving SP disability to new and casual players. They sort of do this already with training boosters, but if it was truly real this program would be expanded for players with 50m SP or less.
wow you must be a really sad person if you define winning in real life with being able to buy "top-class hookers and blow". sad person indeed you couldnt possibly fail more at real life... |

Josef Djugashvilis
Acme Mining Corporation
1280
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Posted - 2013.06.22 22:03:00 -
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deleted This is not a signature. |

Harry Forever
SpaceJunkys
147
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Posted - 2013.06.22 22:17:00 -
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why no? scared a newb can shoot you then? OMG! the asteroid is depleted! |

Autumn Shepard
S T R A T C O M Critical-Mass
3
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Posted - 2013.06.22 22:36:00 -
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All you kids thinking having more sp in the game will make you a better player...
S T R A T C O M is open for recruiting. Check the Link bellow for details.
https://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=posts&t=77808-á |

Harry Forever
SpaceJunkys
147
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Posted - 2013.06.22 22:40:00 -
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Autumn Shepard wrote:All you kids thinking having more sp in the game will make you a better player...
just open a new account you hardcore pro player, go to null and try do kill a ship, now what? looking forward to see your killmails...
don't forget to use your "experience" when you start crying
if you did not understand until now, that skill-time has a huge impact on everything in this game then you might just be better off with your newb account anyway OMG! the asteroid is depleted! |

Adunh Slavy
1034
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Posted - 2013.06.22 23:20:00 -
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Just because you bought plex at the market top doesn't mean you need to try and induce CCP into creating a reason for the market to go up. |

Jimmy Morane
Aurora Novae Aetatis Expoit This Mf's
36
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Posted - 2013.06.22 23:26:00 -
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Harry I'm proud of you man.....your post was semi-coherent  |

Tippia
Sunshine and Lollipops
15162
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Posted - 2013.06.22 23:34:00 -
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Harry Forever wrote:so why not make it possible to purchase skill time direclty with plex? Because it's a horrible idea that fundamentally breaks the game. Also, because the entire premise is incorrect GÇö the problem you're trying to solve doesn't exist, so all you're doing is create new problems for no good reason. GÇ£If you're not willing to fight for what you have in GëívGëí you don't deserve it, and you will lose it.GÇ¥
Get a good start: newbie skill plan 2.0. |

Mag's
the united Negative Ten.
15002
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Posted - 2013.06.22 23:41:00 -
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I like it, but with the following restrictions.
You can only buy the lowest attribute skilled SP amount that would occur over 30 days.
Say for example primary att, 17, secondary att, 21. Sp per hour 1650. Meaning you get 1,188,000 sp per plex. When you apply the SP, it takes the full 30 days to integrate with your character sheet. You must pause any current training, in order for the integration to take place.
Destination SkillQueue:- It's like assuming the lions will ignore you in the savannah, if you're small, fat and look helpless. |
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