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7of Six
Keeper of Ouzo
DOMINION.
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Posted - 2013.06.23 06:40:00 -
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hi
every day it-¦s frustrating - because I can not log in in jita. I-¦m a trader - it is my life to sit in jita...
f.e. if too many peolple fighting in a system - there is time dilation - but for traders, they are locked out. Sure I can make orders from an other system, but is it not the same - it-¦s just a compromise...
My suggestion: if jita is full, create a jita mirror system with new lokal - so people can jump in. All orders, buys and sells, items, ships, trade goods etc. are effective in both systems. If people in jita are decreasing, with a 15min waring, the jita mirror is closed and the player will appear in jita warping to their position or sitting on station... |
Azurae
South West Trading
58
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Posted - 2013.06.23 06:51:00 -
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7of Six wrote:hi
every day it-¦s frustrating - because I can not log in in jita. I-¦m a trader - it is my life to sit in jita...
f.e. if too many peolple fighting in a system - there is time dilation - but for traders, they are locked out. Sure I can make orders from an other system, but is it not the same - it-¦s just a compromise...
My suggestion: if jita is full, create a jita mirror system with new lokal - so people can jump in. All orders, buys and sells, items, ships, trade goods etc. are effective in both systems. If people in jita are decreasing, with a 15min waring, the jita mirror is closed and the player will appear in jita warping to their position or sitting on station...
this is not WoW. no to any instancing. when i'm in a solar system i want to be sure that everyone else that is in that system is there with me and not in some other instance.
go back to WoW |
7of Six
Keeper of Ouzo
DOMINION.
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Posted - 2013.06.23 06:57:00 -
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jita mirror has his own lokal, so you can not see people from jita - but only the items and orders appear in both systems... |
baltec1
Bat Country
6978
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Posted - 2013.06.23 07:13:00 -
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No.
Go to Ammar. |
Solutio Letum
Terpene Conglomerate
143
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Posted - 2013.06.23 07:13:00 -
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this is part of trying to kill the bots, bots dont know how to travel from one system to the next.
Also go in Dodixi Rens, or Amarr,jita is getting a nerf bat, they are moving people out a bit more making station trading more possible, deal with it |
TheButcherPete
The James Gang
SpaceMonkey's Alliance
255
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Posted - 2013.06.23 07:14:00 -
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uhhh is there anything wrong with doing business from New Caldari? It's still in the Forge region. It's what I do, don't let the bots win.
THE KING OF EVE RADIO
ElQuirko is my son |
Anti-social Tendencies
School of Applied Knowledge
Caldari State
55
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Posted - 2013.06.23 07:21:00 -
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According to the Devs. It isn't the station trading bots that are the issue in Jita. Apparently it is the ship traffic, not local or the markets that create the problems. So you can't blame the problem on the bots.
I may need to make a move into another trade hub myself, it would just be a huge hassle.
"Patience: n, a minor form of despair, disguised as a virtue." - AMBROSE PIERCE |
Pak Narhoo
Splinter Foundation
1029
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Posted - 2013.06.23 07:27:00 -
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Anti-social Tendencies wrote:According to the Devs. It isn't the station trading bots that are the issue in Jita. Apparently it is the ship traffic, not local or the markets that create the problems. So you can't blame the problem on the bots.
I may need to make a move into another trade hub myself, it would just be a huge hassle.
No worries, I'll help you to move your assets.  |
7of Six
Keeper of Ouzo
DOMINION.
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Posted - 2013.06.23 07:37:00 -
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yes busines from new caldari is possible, but it is just a compromise, not the solution i think.
But is the solution to do nothing and jita is blocked very day during prime for the next years????
change the trading hub is not the solution, because jita is unique and i have items there for 40 billions. jita trading is not the same as trading in an other hub. when i see every evening hundreds of ships waiting on a stargate and there are some gates to jita, so that means lots of players are waiting, maybe logging off and are frustrated... - i usually change my orders once and log off and don-¦t waste my time with waiting...
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Spiky Hican
Sebiestor Tribe
Minmatar Republic
0
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Posted - 2013.06.23 07:54:00 -
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Basically, the Jita situation is player caused, we decided that Jita 4-4 CNAP is the market hub, and it's become so successful that it's overloaded.
There's nothing much that can be done about it, it's already running on the best hardware they've got, and unfortunately the only solution is to move your stuff and sell it elsewhere.
Any system that handles as much server load traffic as Jita will have the same problem. There is no perfect solution, just keep spamming the buttons to either jump into system, or let you log in. |
TheButcherPete
The James Gang
SpaceMonkey's Alliance
255
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Posted - 2013.06.23 07:59:00 -
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You have items on the market for 40b? Scammer.
:<
THE KING OF EVE RADIO
ElQuirko is my son |
Erotica 1
Krypteia Operations
803
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Posted - 2013.06.23 08:01:00 -
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I'm setting up a mirror Jita in cloud ring. Everyone is welcome to join me.
See Bio for isk doubling rules. -áIf you didn't read bio, chances are you helped fund those who did. |
Alphea Abbra
Grim Determination
Nulli Secunda
284
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Posted - 2013.06.23 09:08:00 -
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7of Six wrote:yes busines from new caldari is possible, but it is just a compromise, not the solution i think.
But is the solution to do nothing and jita is blocked very day during prime for the next years????
change the trading hub is not the solution, because jita is unique and i have items there for 40 billions. jita trading is not the same as trading in an other hub. when i see every evening hundreds of ships waiting on a stargate and there are some gates to jita, so that means lots of players are waiting, maybe logging off and are frustrated... - i usually change my orders once and log off and don-¦t waste my time with waiting... How is it not a solution to change tradehub?
Jita is not unique in any other regard than CCP removed belts and agents, so actually Jita could be said to be a worse system than Rens or Amarr on that account (Amount of stations makes a difference too, though). There is nothing about Jita that makes a "solution" necessary before you identify what the problem is.
So, please explain what the problem with Jita is. When done with that, you can try to solve it.
If you need help, Malcanis made a neat list that, step-by-step, guides you through it.
The biggest problem I see with Jita is the people who post "solutions" to problems that doesn't exist outside their wild imagination. |
Vacille
Vac Inc.
8
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Posted - 2013.06.23 09:49:00 -
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7of Six wrote:it-¦s just a compromise...
Key phrase, this is a game of compromise. It goes the way it goes until CCP can upgrade servers/shards etc etc. |
dark heartt
I Own Four Sheep
Nyratic
373
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Posted - 2013.06.23 09:52:00 -
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7of Six wrote:yes busines from new caldari is possible, but it is just a compromise, not the solution i think.
But is the solution to do nothing and jita is blocked very day during prime for the next years????
change the trading hub is not the solution, because jita is unique and i have items there for 40 billions. jita trading is not the same as trading in an other hub. when i see every evening hundreds of ships waiting on a stargate and there are some gates to jita, so that means lots of players are waiting, maybe logging off and are frustrated... - i usually change my orders once and log off and don-¦t waste my time with waiting...
It's the solution. You just don't want to take it.
Bienator II:
"You can identify eve players by looking at their cars. Since they don't drive what they can't afford to lose."
I play in highsec. |
John Ratcliffe
Sausy Sausages
179
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Posted - 2013.06.23 09:55:00 -
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7of Six wrote:hi
every day it-¦s frustrating - because I can not log in in jita. I-¦m a trader - it is my life to sit in jita...
f.e. if too many peolple fighting in a system - there is time dilation - but for traders, they are locked out. Sure I can make orders from an other system, but is it not the same - it-¦s just a compromise...
My suggestion: if jita is full, create a jita mirror system with new lokal - so people can jump in. All orders, buys and sells, items, ships, trade goods etc. are effective in both systems. If people in jita are decreasing, with a 15min waring, the jita mirror is closed and the player will appear in jita warping to their position or sitting on station...
This is nonsense. I play UK PT and I have no issue getting into Jita. Try harder!
Plus +ºa change, plus c'est la m+¬me chose |
Xercodo
Xovoni Astronautical Manufacturing and Engineering
2432
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Posted - 2013.06.23 10:11:00 -
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7of Six wrote:
Sure I can make orders from an other system, but is it not the same -
On the contrary, it's exactly the same when you have the remote buy, sell, and modification skills trained. You can be ANYWHERE in the region and work exactly the same way you do now while in Jita.
Besides, it'd be more sane to do it this way, you get all of the market profit without any of the local spam. It's a win-win.
The Drake is a Lie |
Vaju Enki
Secular Wisdom
846
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Posted - 2013.06.23 10:13:00 -
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No.
Make a isk fee to enter overcrowded systems.
The Tears Must Flow |
Mc Scam
Royal Amarr Institute
Amarr Empire
55
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Posted - 2013.06.23 10:17:00 -
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Hell no to instances. Learn to properly spam the d button on the gate, the only ones waiting at the gates for more than 2mins are afkers and people who don't do their research. |
Sergeant Acht Scultz
School of Applied Knowledge
Caldari State
878
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Posted - 2013.06.23 10:28:00 -
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7of Six wrote:hi
every day it-¦s frustrating - because I can not log in in jita. I-¦m a trader - it is my life to sit in jita...
f.e. if too many peolple fighting in a system - there is time dilation - but for traders, they are locked out. Sure I can make orders from an other system, but is it not the same - it-¦s just a compromise...
My suggestion: if jita is full, create a jita mirror system with new lokal - so people can jump in. All orders, buys and sells, items, ships, trade goods etc. are effective in both systems. If people in jita are decreasing, with a 15min waring, the jita mirror is closed and the player will appear in jita warping to their position or sitting on station...
Why keep staying in Jita?
The strategic situation of Jita offers you the possibility to undock, instantly jump and cover 2/3 of null sec trading routes but, is also the very same system where you can get gank after the littlest mistake, on top of market bots online etc etc etc
Seriously, move on. Jita node is already a node on it self only for this system when on the same time, we have to fight with TiDI and watch a stupid tunnel animation for over 15min for a 25AU warp, over 1.5H for 5 miserable jumps, ships being lost to rats because you can't target them before they kill them, players logging off because this is completely unfun etc.
Jita node issues you can perfectly avoid them, Null sec TiDI you don't. A 250 players fleet getting bridged and a couple systems around or entire constellation generously offers you a 10% TiDI and a very bad feeling you're wasting your time playing a game you can't do shite because of same old excuses.
Just move on from there.
*removed inappropriate ASCII art signature* - CCP Eterne |
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Chribba
Otherworld Enterprises
Otherworld Empire
8703
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Posted - 2013.06.23 10:45:00 -
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Always the option of players creating a new trade hub anywhere of choice... you just gotta bring the ppl there.
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Minmatar Citizen160812
The LGBT Last Supper
297
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Posted - 2013.06.23 15:15:00 -
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baltec1 wrote:No.
Go to another trade hub.
...or just back to whatever dogshit game you came from. |
Tippia
Sunshine and Lollipops
15184
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Posted - 2013.06.23 15:19:00 -
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No.
You're the problem. The person to fix that problem is you. The tools you need are already available.
Instancing is the tool of the feeble-minded and of the lesser game GÇö the moment it touches EVE, the game is done for. Also, it's not particularly difficult to get in anywayGǪ
GÇ£If you're not willing to fight for what you have in GëívGëí you don't deserve it, and you will lose it.GÇ¥
Get a good start: newbie skill plan 2.0. |
Harry Forever
SpaceJunkys
153
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Posted - 2013.06.23 15:39:00 -
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7of Six wrote:hi
every day it-¦s frustrating - because I can not log in in jita. I-¦m a trader - it is my life to sit in jita...
f.e. if too many peolple fighting in a system - there is time dilation - but for traders, they are locked out. Sure I can make orders from an other system, but is it not the same - it-¦s just a compromise...
My suggestion: if jita is full, create a jita mirror system with new lokal - so people can jump in. All orders, buys and sells, items, ships, trade goods etc. are effective in both systems. If people in jita are decreasing, with a 15min waring, the jita mirror is closed and the player will appear in jita warping to their position or sitting on station...
I think they would be able to fix it by just adding some hardware for trading, they also could add a shuttle service so you can move your character to jita without going there with your own ship, I think the ships in space are the problem
OMG! the asteroid is depleted! |
Harry Forever
SpaceJunkys
153
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Posted - 2013.06.23 15:42:00 -
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baltec1 wrote:No.
Go to another trade hub.
you do not have a single useful comment in all your replys, just vacuum up there right?
OMG! the asteroid is depleted! |
Doc Fury
Furious Enterprises
2599
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Posted - 2013.06.23 15:45:00 -
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Solution: nerf Europe.
amidoingitrite?
The accumulated filth of all their sex and murder will foam up about their waists and all the ho's and politicians will look up and shout 'Save us!' and I'll look down, and whisper 'Hodor'. |
admiral root
Red Galaxy
SpaceMonkey's Alliance
543
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Posted - 2013.06.23 15:52:00 -
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Harry Forever wrote:, they also could add a shuttle service so you can move your character to jita without going there with your own ship
Further reducing the minimal risk that exists in highsec. Not what I'd call a good idea under any circumstances. OP simply needs to train patience II and keep trying the gate / login screen or trade from next door.
No, your rights end in optimal+2*falloff |
Harry Forever
SpaceJunkys
153
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Posted - 2013.06.23 15:53:00 -
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Doc Fury wrote:Solution: nerf Europe.
amidoingitrite?
solution: buff your brain
and try to make useful comments
OMG! the asteroid is depleted! |
Klandi
Consortium of stella Technologies
123
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Posted - 2013.06.23 16:09:00 -
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Gonna add to the WOT? brigaid
Jita was made by players - YOU
All hubs were made by the players - YOU
so - back at you
You make another Jita
I am aware of my own ignorance and have checked my emotional quotient - thanks for asking |
Roxxo I'doCocaine
SlammaJammaBamma
23
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Posted - 2013.06.23 16:27:00 -
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NO INSTANCES.
NONE.
EVER.
As already pointed out, trade skills allow you to perform EXACTLY the same actions as if you were in system when it comes to buying and selling goods. The ONLY reason I can think of for wanting to be in the actual system for trading is access to the local channel of that system. The only people who really need that access are the scammers. So I am beginning to think that your thread is nothing more than scammer tears. As such, I encourage you to keep them flowing or explain exactly what it is you cannot do as a station trader without being in system. |
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