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Derin Phobos Sky Fighters Mass Overload 31	Posted - 2013.06.23 16:29:00 - [31] - Quote A smart person sees a problem and innovates a solution that makes them very wealthy. A not-so-smart person whines that the system is unfair and should be changed to suit their needs. Be smart.
Noddy Comet Lysdexic Agnostics - Thier is no Dog 64	Posted - 2013.06.23 16:32:00 - [32] - Quote Roxxo I'doCocaine wrote: ..... trade skills allow you to perform EXACTLY the same actions as if you were in system when it comes to buying and selling goods. The ONLY reason I can think of for wanting to be in the actual system for trading is access to the local channel of that system Please enlighten us on which trade skills and it's minimum level to train to that an transport physical goods to and from a station without ever setting foot in it.. I think a few of the contract freight services would like to get in on this sooper seekrit skill.
Tippia Sunshine and Lollipops 15186	Posted - 2013.06.23 16:43:00 - [33] - Quote Noddy Comet wrote: Roxxo I'doCocaine wrote: ..... trade skills allow you to perform EXACTLY the same actions as if you were in system when it comes to buying and selling goods. The ONLY reason I can think of for wanting to be in the actual system for trading is access to the local channel of that system Please enlighten us on which trade skills and it's minimum level to train to that an transport physical goods to and from a station without ever setting foot in it.. You don't need to transport anything to buy and sell goods (and make good money from it). GÇ£If you're not willing to fight for what you have in GëívGëí you don't deserve it, and you will lose it.GÇ¥ Get a good start: newbie skill plan 2.0.
Noddy Comet Lysdexic Agnostics - Thier is no Dog 64	Posted - 2013.06.23 16:56:00 - [34] - Quote Tippia wrote: Noddy Comet wrote: Roxxo I'doCocaine wrote: ..... trade skills allow you to perform EXACTLY the same actions as if you were in system when it comes to buying and selling goods. The ONLY reason I can think of for wanting to be in the actual system for trading is access to the local channel of that system Please enlighten us on which trade skills and it's minimum level to train to that an transport physical goods to and from a station without ever setting foot in it.. You don't need to transport anything to buy and sell goods (and make good money from it). Again.. Please enlighten us as to how I can sit in say, New Caldari and do a remote buy of something in Jita (because it was the best price for several jumps around or the only place available for said rare-ish object at the time I am buying it) and get it out of Jita remotely via a skill. Point being, not everyone who attempts to access Jita does so to do a million .01 ISK trades a day just to "make good money" they are doing so because (the lack of) supply and demand tends to funnel them there. Your sig is very appropriate here too.. GÇ£If you're not willing to fight for what you have in GëívGëí you don't deserve it, and you will lose it.GÇ¥ Many of us are sick of the scammbotters and ARE willing to fight to get rid of them, yet it's not a fight that can be won out in space using a gun and unfortunately the answer for us all too often is "meh,. go elsewhere, CCP don't care" and that's just sad.
Jimmy Morane Aurora Novae Aetatis Expoit This Mf's 38	Posted - 2013.06.23 16:59:00 - [35] - Quote Harry Forever wrote: baltec1 wrote: No. Go to another trade hub. you do not have a single useful comment in all your replys, just vacuum up there right? Harry you were doing so well yesterday. Ok, time to train Coherency to level 2!
No Alibi Shadow Brokers 29	Posted - 2013.06.23 17:05:00 - [36] - Quote Jita is closed for repairs... Sorry ,We're Closed. Thank You Come Again! I fly by the seat of my pants, No wonder my-áass is always on fire!
Tippia Sunshine and Lollipops 15186	Posted - 2013.06.23 17:07:00 - [37] - Quote Noddy Comet wrote: Again.. Please enlighten us as to how I can sit in say, New Caldari and do a remote buy of something in Jita (because it was the best price for several jumps around or the only place available for said rare-ish object at the time I am buying it) and get it out of Jita remotely via a skill. Who cares. That wasn't what was in question. The point was that, when it comes to buying and selling goods, trade skills allow you to perform EXACTLY the same action as if you were in the system. You don't need to transport anything to make money from buying and selling. If you absolutely have to get in to pick stuff up, you can do it when the traffic is less intense (or you can just be a bit more persistent). It's a secret skill called GÇ£patienceGÇ¥. Or you can do determine that your time is worth more than the minuscule difference in price you get from buying from Jita. It's a secret skill called GÇ£calculating cost/benefitGÇ¥. Quote: Many of us are sick of the scammbotters and ARE willing to fight to get rid of them Getting rid of them won't let you in any more than now, because all that will happen is that the population cap is lowered to compensate for the new in-space/in-station ratios. GÇ£If you're not willing to fight for what you have in GëívGëí you don't deserve it, and you will lose it.GÇ¥ Get a good start: newbie skill plan 2.0.
No Alibi Shadow Brokers 29	Posted - 2013.06.23 17:23:00 - [38] - Quote Chribba wrote: Always the option of players creating a new trade hub anywhere of choice... you just gotta bring the ppl there. What he said.... I fly by the seat of my pants, No wonder my-áass is always on fire!
7of Six Keeper of Ouzo DOMINION. 3	Posted - 2013.06.23 17:29:00 - [39] - Quote 17: 30 eve time sunday 23.06 - jita is blocked... guess 5 of 7 days at prime time, jita is blocked, that makes no fun... and log out, go out of a beer or two...
Mark Rain Science and Trade Institute Caldari State 18	Posted - 2013.06.23 17:53:00 - [40] - Quote Moar hardware.....that's the best plan.
Tippia Sunshine and Lollipops 15186	Posted - 2013.06.23 17:57:00 - [41] - Quote Mark Rain wrote: Moar hardware.....that's the best plan. GÇªexcept that it provides minimal benefit for maximal cost. But aside from thatGÇª still no. GÇ£If you're not willing to fight for what you have in GëívGëí you don't deserve it, and you will lose it.GÇ¥ Get a good start: newbie skill plan 2.0.
BRooDJeRo Cutting Edge Incorporated RAZOR Alliance 3	Posted - 2013.06.23 18:11:00 - [42] - Quote +1 It's starting to be a little bit ridiculous. The same with TIDI, not too large fleets in relative empty regions spike to 90%. The settings are a bit tight/sharp.
NEONOVUS Saablast Followers 461	Posted - 2013.06.23 23:03:00 - [43] - Quote Erotica 1 wrote: I'm setting up a mirror Jita in cloud ring. Everyone is welcome to join me. So is that the big thing you have been hinting to me about? Still not going to move my manufacturing.
Inxentas Ultramar Ultramar Independent Contracting Home Front Coalition 531	Posted - 2013.06.24 12:18:00 - [44] - Quote I courier-contract everything out of Jita. It has 2 disctinct advantages: 1. Someone eventually picks up the contract and thus, leaves Jita. 2. Thanks to a decent collateral most of the risk lies with the contractee.
Samillian Angry Mustellid 254	Posted - 2013.06.24 12:26:00 - [45] - Quote Logging into Jita only takes a bit of patience, getting my trade alt up and running has never taken me more than a few minutes max and I play EU Primetime. NBSI shall be the whole of the Law
Alpha Taredi Imperial Academy Amarr Empire 0	Posted - 2013.06.24 12:41:00 - [46] - Quote I'd rather increase the taxes at jita. This just annoys people, needlessly. At least have some sort of queuing system so people don't have to spam.
Joxxy Jolly Codgers Get Off My Lawn 16	Posted - 2013.06.24 12:55:00 - [47] - Quote There is. Its called - Amarr Your welcome. I love helping newb players.
RAW23 170	Posted - 2013.06.24 13:01:00 - [48] - Quote Alphea Abbra wrote: The biggest problem I see with Jita is the people who post "solutions" to problems that doesn't exist outside their wild imagination. Let me get this right - you think that serious lag and the inability to jump into a system because it is overloaded are not real problems? I don't really know what to say to that other than please try not to contribute any further. OP's solution is a bad one but denying that there is any problem is just bizarre. There are two types of EVE player: those who believe there are two types of EVE player and those who do not.
Anna Djan Banana Corp 16	Posted - 2013.06.24 13:10:00 - [49] - Quote Your exaggerating the problem. If Jita is full and I try to log in there, it takes me no more than a minute or two to get in.
SmokinDank Horizon Research Group 3	Posted - 2013.06.24 13:16:00 - [50] - Quote Go to another trade hub, problem solved. Never understood why someone HAS to be in Jita
Malcanis Vanishing Point. The Initiative. 10285	Posted - 2013.06.24 13:18:00 - [51] - Quote 7of Six wrote: hi every day it-¦s frustrating - because I can not log in in jita. I-¦m a trader - it is my life to sit in jita... f.e. if too many peolple fighting in a system - there is time dilation - but for traders, they are locked out. Sure I can make orders from an other system, but is it not the same - it-¦s just a compromise... My suggestion: if jita is full, create a jita mirror system with new lokal - so people can jump in. All orders, buys and sells, items, ships, trade goods etc. are effective in both systems. If people in jita are decreasing, with a 15min waring, the jita mirror is closed and the player will appear in jita warping to their position or sitting on station... The mirror you are looking for is in a system call Amarr, 8 or 9 jumps away. 1 Kings 12:11
Alexila Quant Strategic Acquisitions Group Tactical Research Lab 84	Posted - 2013.06.24 13:19:00 - [52] - Quote 7of Six wrote: hi every day it-¦s frustrating - because I can not log in in jita. I-¦m a trader - it is my life to sit in jita... f.e. if too many peolple fighting in a system - there is time dilation - but for traders, they are locked out. Sure I can make orders from an other system, but is it not the same - it-¦s just a compromise... My suggestion: if jita is full, create a jita mirror system with new lokal - so people can jump in. All orders, buys and sells, items, ships, trade goods etc. are effective in both systems. If people in jita are decreasing, with a 15min waring, the jita mirror is closed and the player will appear in jita warping to their position or sitting on station... No. Kill yourself.
RAW23 170	Posted - 2013.06.24 13:21:00 - [53] - Quote Malcanis wrote: The mirror you are looking for is in a system call Amarr, 8 or 9 jumps away. That's like saying the solution to a laggy fleet fight is to take your ship and go and fight somewhere else - i.e. it's complete nonsense. There are two types of EVE player: those who believe there are two types of EVE player and those who do not.
Kagura Nikon Mentally Assured Destruction Whores in space 431	Posted - 2013.06.24 13:25:00 - [54] - Quote 7of Six wrote: jita mirror has his own lokal, so you can not see people from jita - but only the items and orders appear in both systems... Woudl simply destroy the whole concept of eve. A single universe. Its basically the most stupid idea ever written in this forums, and that is by itself an impressive achievement
Cannibal Kane Shoulda Checked Local Break-A-Wish Foundation 1915	Posted - 2013.06.24 13:36:00 - [55] - Quote Odd... Everyday during Primetime EU TZ. I see all those people at the gate... laugh and then press the jump button a few times and jump into jita. "I saw him fight by the monument in Jita. -áHe flowed in his Machariel like a Shinto spirit, 800MM shells sprouting in his passing. -áHis hair flowed in the corona of his target's warp core breach. -áIt was truly majestic. -áAnd while everyone stared in awe I stole the loot and ran off.-áBecause I am like that." --áNEONOVUS
baltec1 Bat Country 7012	Posted - 2013.06.24 13:43:00 - [56] - Quote RAW23 wrote: Alphea Abbra wrote: The biggest problem I see with Jita is the people who post "solutions" to problems that doesn't exist outside their wild imagination. Let me get this right - you think that serious lag and the inability to jump into a system because it is overloaded are not real problems? I don't really know what to say to that other than please try not to contribute any further. OP's solution is a bad one but denying that there is any problem is just bizarre. Whats wrong with the hundreds of other systems in high sec?
RAW23 170	Posted - 2013.06.24 13:50:00 - [57] - Quote baltec1 wrote: RAW23 wrote: Alphea Abbra wrote: The biggest problem I see with Jita is the people who post "solutions" to problems that doesn't exist outside their wild imagination. Let me get this right - you think that serious lag and the inability to jump into a system because it is overloaded are not real problems? I don't really know what to say to that other than please try not to contribute any further. OP's solution is a bad one but denying that there is any problem is just bizarre. Whats wrong with the hundreds of other systems in high sec? They are fine if you want to do something other than the specific types of trading that you can only do in Jita. But if you want to play those particular games (e.g. high volume swing trading on raw materials or fighting 0.01 wars for significant market segments) you just can't do them elsewhere. If you want to be a trader then you go to where the appropriate market is. You can't just head off somewhere else and expect the market to come to you. It's the same with fleet fights - they take place at specific locations and if you want to take part you have to be where the fight is. You can't just go to another system of your choosing and still expect to be involved. There are two types of EVE player: those who believe there are two types of EVE player and those who do not.
Nox Solitudo Space Ants 11	Posted - 2013.06.24 14:13:00 - [58] - Quote RAW23 wrote: baltec1 wrote: RAW23 wrote: Alphea Abbra wrote: The biggest problem I see with Jita is the people who post "solutions" to problems that doesn't exist outside their wild imagination. Let me get this right - you think that serious lag and the inability to jump into a system because it is overloaded are not real problems? I don't really know what to say to that other than please try not to contribute any further. OP's solution is a bad one but denying that there is any problem is just bizarre. Whats wrong with the hundreds of other systems in high sec? They are fine if you want to do something other than the specific types of trading that you can only do in Jita. But if you want to play those particular games (e.g. high volume swing trading on raw materials or fighting 0.01 wars for significant market segments) you just can't do them elsewhere. If you want to be a trader then you go to where the appropriate market is. You can't just head off somewhere else and expect the market to come to you. It's the same with fleet fights - they take place at specific locations and if you want to take part you have to be where the fight is. You can't just go to another system of your choosing and still expect to be involved. Yes you can play those games elsewhere. On Amarr. Just move your bloody trit 6 or w/e jumps away from Jita. Shockingly, you can do something on your own in this game, you don't have to rely on GMs/Devs. Or you can moan 23/7 and demand WoW in EVE. Boooo, I can't do anything, Devs pls feed me.
baltec1 Bat Country 7012	Posted - 2013.06.24 14:13:00 - [59] - Quote RAW23 wrote: They are fine if you want to do something other than the specific types of trading that you can only do in Jita. But if you want to play those particular games (e.g. high volume swing trading on raw materials or fighting 0.01 wars for significant market segments) you just can't do them elsewhere. If you want to be a trader then you go to where the appropriate market is. You can't just head off somewhere else and expect the market to come to you. It's the same with fleet fights - they take place at specific locations and if you want to take part you have to be where the fight is. You can't just go to another system of your choosing and still expect to be involved. So what exactly isnt in Amarr?
RAW23 171	Posted - 2013.06.24 14:21:00 - [60] - Quote Nox Solitudo wrote: Yes you can play those games elsewhere. On Amarr. Just move your bloody trit 6 or w/e jumps away from Jita. Shockingly, you can do something on your own in this game, you don't have to rely on GMs/Devs. Or you can moan 23/7 and demand WoW in EVE. Boooo, I can't do anything, Devs pls feed me. I'm going to have to say that you don't have a clue about how the markets in eve work. There are two types of EVE player: those who believe there are two types of EVE player and those who do not.

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