So I would like CCP to some how do away with gate camps.
I Do not have the full details on how this will work out.
My goal is not to lower the amount of pvp but do something to increase it.
Gate camps to me are not real pvp. I would like ccp to implement something to add more pvp to EVE without the use of gate camps. I am not sure what they could do to make this happen but I would like to see more pvp but little to no gate camps at all.

Maybe add lvl 6 agent to low to draw people into system and engage them at the site. Like i said I don't know how to pull this off but gate camps are boring and lame there needs to be a lot more options for pvp

So I would like CCP to some how do away with gate camps.

Only way to get rid of gate camps is to do away with the blob warfare, as a way to encourage small gang PvP (which should be the main PvP fare as it encourages having fun with your RL friends).

But the main problem is the cost to PvP is so high. Want more PvP and even attract more PvErs to engage in it here and there, the price for it has to come down. With the inflation in the game (100% ratio in 3 years), that's not going to happen anytime soon.

Only way to get rid of gate camps is to do away with the blob warfare, as a way to encourage small gang PvP (which should be the main PvP fare as it encourages having fun with your RL friends).

But the main problem is the cost to PvP is so high. Want more PvP and even attract more PvErs to engage in it here and there, the price for it has to come down. With the inflation in the game (100% ratio in 3 years), that's not going to happen anytime soon.

Gates are fine.
Camps are the issue.
Campers blow up everything they are able to catch and kill, regardless of value, be that Isk or Tactical.
IF campers took the time to scan a ship to see if it had anything worth the ammo of killing and released those ships that did not, then you might see some decent gameplay.
However, there is always the Killmail Value and Bragging Rights, and aslong as those things carry any kind of weight, gate camps will remain until there is a better/easier way for the campers to get their jollies.

The problem here isnt the mechanics, its the nature of the human animal.

Only way to get rid of gate camps is to do away with the blob warfare, as a way to encourage small gang PvP (which should be the main PvP fare as it encourages having fun with your RL friends).

But the main problem is the cost to PvP is so high. Want more PvP and even attract more PvErs to engage in it here and there, the price for it has to come down. With the inflation in the game (100% ratio in 3 years), that's not going to happen anytime soon.

So I would like CCP to some how do away with gate camps.
I Do not have the full details on how this will work out.
My goal is not to lower the amount of pvp but do something to increase it.
Gate camps to me are not real pvp. I would like ccp to implement something to add more pvp to EVE without the use of gate camps. I am not sure what they could do to make this happen but I would like to see more pvp but little to no gate camps at all.

Maybe add lvl 6 agent to low to draw people into system and engage them at the site. Like i said I don't know how to pull this off but gate camps are boring and lame there needs to be a lot more options for pvp

Get rid of gate camps.

So I would like CCP to some how do away with gate camps.......

We the Gankers [TGNKS]
"We gank, that is all"

Malcanis you're turning into a shitposter. Welcome aboard.


Easiest way to 'fix' gates is make the 'ball' you spawn in once jumping through 200kms radius.

If you get caught at a camp in a system you are already in, then you deserve it.

Gates are fine.
Camps are the issue.
Campers blow up everything they are able to catch and kill, regardless of value, be that Isk or Tactical.
IF campers took the time to scan a ship to see if it had anything worth the ammo of killing and released those ships that did not, then you might see some decent gameplay.
However, there is always the Killmail Value and Bragging Rights, and aslong as those things carry any kind of weight, gate camps will remain until there is a better/easier way for the campers to get their jollies.

The problem here isnt the mechanics, its the nature of the human animal.

So I would like CCP to some how do away with gate camps.
I Do not have the full details on how this will work out.
My goal is not to lower the amount of pvp but do something to increase it.
Gate camps to me are not real pvp. I would like ccp to implement something to add more pvp to EVE without the use of gate camps. I am not sure what they could do to make this happen but I would like to see more pvp but little to no gate camps at all.

Maybe add lvl 6 agent to low to draw people into system and engage them at the site. Like i said I don't know how to pull this off but gate camps are boring and lame there needs to be a lot more options for pvp

Give a man a title and this happens. Is it to late to retract my vote?

Wow you're right. OK I just used my time machine and went back in time and forced the devs on Team Five-0 to completely rework the entire range of T1 frigates and cruisers for the Retribution expansion, so that they're amazingly good now. They didn't want to make it possible to buy viable PvP hulls for under 10 mill ISK and fly them with less than 1M SP, but when they saw the pictures I had of them, the sheep and the jello tub, well, that argument was soon ended.

(Of course they'll pretend they wanted to do this all along. But now you know the truth.)

I also notice that you've been a busy boy and used your time machine to go back and change the economy sot that the inflation in the game is ~0% over six years...

See, this is why I voted for you for the CSM: because you are not afraid to do these large drastic measures, and do them with your own hands.

\o/

Time Machines are pretty useful. Pity about that 18-month tachyon storm blocking off 2009-2010 though.

Gate campers are easy prey for a good PvPer. They generally have a lower skill level than the ones out roaming in smaller groups, they are often afk relying on the rest of the group to protect them, and they're usually slow because they don't have to catch up with anyone as they know where they will come from. Also, they're rarely organised enough to have a good fleet comp, they don't really use Ewar or logi very often.

Okay, the Niaja gate camp is calling for you. I'm sure the Goons will just be so kind to let you single handily wipe them out.

It is a pity. If you could of fixed that we might have had WiS by now.

What I don't like about gate camps is the fact that the only successful counter involves a cyno and titan bridge.

Hit them with a fleet of 30 battleships, most will die.

So I would like CCP to some how do away with gate camps.
I Do not have the full details on how this will work out.
My goal is not to lower the amount of pvp but do something to increase it.
Gate camps to me are not real pvp. I would like ccp to implement something to add more pvp to EVE without the use of gate camps. I am not sure what they could do to make this happen but I would like to see more pvp but little to no gate camps at all.

Maybe add lvl 6 agent to low to draw people into system and engage them at the site. Like i said I don't know how to pull this off but gate camps are boring and lame there needs to be a lot more options for pvp

So I would like CCP to some how do away with gate camps.

Gate camps are not real pvp.

A bomber can get you past one, same with covert recon.

So please share the story of where the nasty gate camp touched you inappropriately.

It gives the tears posting more backstory!

Lolol, someone from 'We the...' Oh... People already said that? Many times? :( Okay...

So I would like CCP to some how do away with gate camps.
I Do not have the full details on how this will work out.
My goal is not to lower the amount of pvp but do something to increase it.
Gate camps to me are not real pvp. I would like ccp to implement something to add more pvp to EVE without the use of gate camps. I am not sure what they could do to make this happen but I would like to see more pvp but little to no gate camps at all.

Maybe add lvl 6 agent to low to draw people into system and engage them at the site. Like i said I don't know how to pull this off but gate camps are boring and lame there needs to be a lot more options for pvp

Simple solution... Build a bigger blob.

So I would like CCP to some how do away with gate camps.
I Do not have the full details on how this will work out.
My goal is not to lower the amount of pvp but do something to increase it.
Gate camps to me are not real pvp. I would like ccp to implement something to add more pvp to EVE without the use of gate camps. I am not sure what they could do to make this happen but I would like to see more pvp but little to no gate camps at all.

Maybe add lvl 6 agent to low to draw people into system and engage them at the site. Like i said I don't know how to pull this off but gate camps are boring and lame there needs to be a lot more options for pvp

So I would like CCP to some how do away with gate camps.
I Do not have the full details on how this will work out.
My goal is not to lower the amount of pvp but do something to increase it.
Gate camps to me are not real pvp. I would like ccp to implement something to add more pvp to EVE without the use of gate camps. I am not sure what they could do to make this happen but I would like to see more pvp but little to no gate camps at all.

Maybe add lvl 6 agent to low to draw people into system and engage them at the site. Like i said I don't know how to pull this off but gate camps are boring and lame there needs to be a lot more options for pvp

So I would like CCP to some how do away with gate camps.
I Do not have the full details on how this will work out.
My goal is not to lower the amount of pvp but do something to increase it.
Gate camps to me are not real pvp. I would like ccp to implement something to add more pvp to EVE without the use of gate camps. I am not sure what they could do to make this happen but I would like to see more pvp but little to no gate camps at all.

Maybe add lvl 6 agent to low to draw people into system and engage them at the site. Like i said I don't know how to pull this off but gate camps are boring and lame there needs to be a lot more options for pvp

You want to get rid of campers....and you are in a corp called "We the Gankers"...i LOL'd at work at this

Malcanis you're turning into a shitposter. Welcome aboard.

It is. But you can hardly complain because I was exactly the same before and campaigned on a promise to keep right on being mean to people who make bad posts with horrible self-serving, game-wrecking suggestions.

Gate camps to me are not real pvp.

...but gate camps are boring and lame

So I would like CCP to some how do away with gate camps.
I Do not have the full details on how this will work out.
My goal is not to lower the amount of pvp but do something to increase it.
Gate camps to me are not real pvp. I would like ccp to implement something to add more pvp to EVE without the use of gate camps. I am not sure what they could do to make this happen but I would like to see more pvp but little to no gate camps at all.

Maybe add lvl 6 agent to low to draw people into system and engage them at the site. Like i said I don't know how to pull this off but gate camps are boring and lame there needs to be a lot more options for pvp

Malcanis you're turning into a shitposter.

Adapt

Do something about the camps or find other routes, check your map and don't fly through at peak times. Just because you don't approve or use a certain play style it does not mean it is broken.

I've run afoul of gatecampers a good few times (and I'm only 20 days old), and it's annoying but I'm mostly just intruiged about the possibilities of fits to survive them tbh. I'm sure there are ways to mitigate their effects on my game. Looking forward to testimg out fits on this, actually. It's all good fun.

It would be cool however if there was some sort of short-range jump module that you could fit which wuld open up a wormhole to the next system. Make it have some kind of long cooldown or have its endpoint be randomly located in the target system, and allow the endloint to be noticed by prove scanning or something, to give properly equippped campgangs to try to locate you. I'd rather my lolsec trips were a bit more fox n hounds than 'here I am, kill me please'

Why do so many of you want easy mode?

Gate camps were never a problem.

Choke points are.

Eve is a fish bucket.

There's a good reason gate camps operate the way that they do, from my direct experience:

(1) You have to successfully tackle a target to see what's inside it. It takes longer to do a scan and check than it does to simply blow up the target and find out, and it's not any easier to do it.

(2) People aren't always super truthful about how much ISk they have to pay things like ransoms. And they're generally not willing to pay at all, meaning the pirates will have wasted everybody's time to trying to follow your suggestion

(3) Other people may come along at any time and interrupt the proceedings

(4) You'd be amazed at the valuables people will move through lo-sec in hilariously unsuitable ships. Yes even noobships.

What it boils down to is: the optimal strategy is to explode whatever you catch, check the wreck and wait for the next guy. Complaining about pirates doing this is about as useful as complaining about mission runners blitzing for LP.

So I would like CCP to some how do away with gate camps.
I Do not have the full details on how this will work out.
My goal is not to lower the amount of pvp but do something to increase it.
Gate camps to me are not real pvp. I would like ccp to implement something to add more pvp to EVE without the use of gate camps. I am not sure what they could do to make this happen but I would like to see more pvp but little to no gate camps at all.

Maybe add lvl 6 agent to low to draw people into system and engage them at the site. Like i said I don't know how to pull this off but gate camps are boring and lame there needs to be a lot more options for pvp

So please share the story of where the nasty gate camp touched you inappropriately.

It gives the tears posting more backstory!

So I would like CCP to some how do away with gate camps.
I Do not have the full details on how this will work out.
My goal is not to lower the amount of pvp but do something to increase it.
Gate camps to me are not real pvp. I would like ccp to implement something to add more pvp to EVE without the use of gate camps. I am not sure what they could do to make this happen but I would like to see more pvp but little to no gate camps at all.

Maybe add lvl 6 agent to low to draw people into system and engage them at the site. Like i said I don't know how to pull this off but gate camps are boring and lame there needs to be a lot more options for pvp

Yes lets make it so you cannot target people within 50 km of a gate or station. Or we can just make the entirety of New Eden high sec. That sounds like a great idea that would not make this game any less fun at all.

Let's start renovating.

There's a good reason gate camps operate the way that they do, from my direct experience:

(1) You have to successfully tackle a target to see what's inside it. It takes longer to do a scan and check than it does to simply blow up the target and find out, and it's not any easier to do it.

(2) People aren't always super truthful about how much ISk they have to pay things like ransoms. And they're generally not willing to pay at all, meaning the pirates will have wasted everybody's time to trying to follow your suggestion

(3) Other people may come along at any time and interrupt the proceedings

(4) You'd be amazed at the valuables people will move through lo-sec in hilariously unsuitable ships. Yes even noobships.

What it boils down to is: the optimal strategy is to explode whatever you catch, check the wreck and wait for the next guy. Complaining about pirates doing this is about as useful as complaining about mission runners blitzing for LP.

People whine about not enough people in low and null. Then they whine about altering travel mechanics to make it a bit simpler to travel in those areas.

All valid points, and I accept all of them. I'm not actually complaining about the camps, just suggesting an alternative and looking at the reasons for the current situation. I dont realistically expect CCP to make any changes to this as the Low/Null players would light up like Guy Fawkes.

The "optimal strategy" for short term profit is as you say, shoot now ask questions later, but long term, if you want to make Low/Null more populous, the current strategy will not achieve that any time soon. You can howl all you like for nerfing of HighSec, but past history shows removing things from High just pushes people to be more efficient at using whats left to them, because the other option of Low/Null is not what they are willing to buy into.

From my position, I can see that theres lots of desire to bring more people in to Low/Null, but realistically speaking, if the first thing that happens upon entering low sec is your ship exploding, youre not too likely to want to go back in.

IF the Low/Null community gave new fish a chance to get established, more of them would stay and more fights would ensue, in my opinion anyway.

Only way to get rid of gate camps is to do away with the blob warfare, as a way to encourage small gang PvP (which should be the main PvP fare as it encourages having fun with your RL friends).

But the main problem is the cost to PvP is so high. Want more PvP and even attract more PvErs to engage in it here and there, the price for it has to come down. With the inflation in the game (100% ratio in 3 years), that's not going to happen anytime soon.

Posting in a 'I want this sandbox to be limited to how I play the game' thread.

Good news! Viable PVP ships cost less than a million ISK to fit. 5 million if it's T2 fitted. Gogo!

It baffles me why, in the context of the universe and game, that an enterprising corporation hasn't developed some kind of probe that deployed through the jump gate, scans the other side of the gate, then jumps back through.

It would provide a way to scout a gate, but say that it required a few seconds on the other side to do the scan, and there was the potential to destroy it. It seems like a perfectly valid idea.

Only way to get rid of gate camps is to do away with the blob warfare, as a way to encourage small gang PvP (which should be the main PvP fare as it encourages having fun with your RL friends).

But the main problem is the cost to PvP is so high. Want more PvP and even attract more PvErs to engage in it here and there, the price for it has to come down. With the inflation in the game (100% ratio in 3 years), that's not going to happen anytime soon.

Travel mechanics aren't the issue. People with no idea how they work whining for changes which they don't understand the implications of is.

Gate camps are an integral part of EvE Online. Nothing more needs to be said.

They weren't always and every time I point this out I get a slammed but I'll say this again.

In the early days of Eve there wasn't anything that could survive the gate guns, then ships evolved and now gate guns mostly kill new players that don't understand how they work. Gate guns no longer serve any practical purpose.

So why doesn't CCP evolve the guns or just remove them, because right now they have no useful purpose? CCP thought once combat was supposed to be somewhere other than low sec gates but now doesn't seem to care. CCP recently floated a suggestion to fiddle the guns (which I supported) but the vocal minority (already prepping for rants about that comment) got CCP to back down.

So now I say "CCP, fix the guns or take them out all together!"

Issler

They weren't always and every time I point this out I get a slammed but I'll say this again.

In the early days of Eve there wasn't anything that could survive the gate guns, then ships evolved and now gate guns mostly kill new players that don't understand how they work. Gate guns no longer serve any practical purpose.

So why doesn't CCP evolve the guns or just remove them, because right now they have no useful purpose? CCP thought once combat was supposed to be somewhere other than low sec gates but now doesn't seem to care. CCP recently floated a suggestion to fiddle the guns (which I supported) but the vocal minority (already prepping for rants about that comment) got CCP to back down.

So now I say "CCP, fix the guns or take them out all together!"

Issler

Show me on the doll where the gate campers touched your industrial..........

It's ambush at a chokepoint- sort of a fundamental of warfare. Wouldn't want our war too much like the real thing, would we?

Realistic warfare? Are you kidding? It's space, the largest expanse imaginable and we have LOL choke points.

Realistic warfare? Are you kidding? It's space, the largest expanse imaginable and we have LOL choke points.

They weren't always and every time I point this out I get a slammed but I'll say this again.

In the early days of Eve there wasn't anything that could survive the gate guns, then ships evolved and now gate guns mostly kill new players that don't understand how they work. Gate guns no longer serve any practical purpose.

So why doesn't CCP evolve the guns or just remove them, because right now they have no useful purpose? CCP thought once combat was supposed to be somewhere other than low sec gates but now doesn't seem to care. CCP recently floated a suggestion to fiddle the guns (which I supported) but the vocal minority (already prepping for rants about that comment) got CCP to back down.

So now I say "CCP, fix the guns or take them out all together!"

Issler

We have lolchokepoints precisely because it is space. You know, the whole warp gate thing? Otherwise it would all be one big system clogged full of people. The very nature of the session change neccesitates this.

Trying to argue against gatecamps by saying "It's in space"? Not working for you.

How interesting would chess be on a board sized infinity x infinity?

I Call BS. Session changes do not necessitate a jump gate. Programmatically, all a jump gate is, is a GUI element. That is all event driven design requires. It could be a gate or a giant pink pony bouncing across your screen.

The only argument that holds any water is that "it would be too hard to find other people". That however is easily over come with functions that already exist in the game. A few changes to how we interact with them, and there would be as much if not more non-consensual PVP.

Sorry it is too difficult for some of you to imagine any possible alternatives.

Okie dokie, there are possible alternatives, but none of them are viable in any way, shape, or form.

So let's say you had to be at the edge of the system to warp to another one, ok? Well, first of all, how do you define this?

Second, how do you GET THERE?

You can't just warp to a point in space. There has to be something there to warp to, or you would have to have put a bookmark. Because given the distances involved it would take you about 30 years to slowboat there, so it has to be warp.

So unless they are going to populate every grid along the circumference of every system in the damn game (this is impossible, btw), there will still be chokepoints.

What you are saying is quite simply not possible in the game. Sorry that it's too hard to see the flaws in an obviously weak argument. Don't let your mouth write checks your knowledge of the subject can't cash.

Are you so unimaginative that you can't think of 100 possible ways someone could code that into the Eve GUI? LOL. Come on man, you're not that daft, surely. Here let me help, "When user does X, do Y". Ok now add random words to X and Y, and like the preverbal monkey typing Shakespeare, you'll come up with something.

If you think coding a three dimensional movement model works like this, then you are a fool.

And there is no point in trying to convince someone who does not possess the capacity to understand the truth. I apologize for overestimating you thusly.

We're done.

Maybe add lvl 6 agent to low to draw people into system and engage them at the site. Like i said I don't know how to pull this off but gate camps are boring and lame there needs to be a lot more options for pvp

Gateguns kill interceptors and other frigates pretty fast. If you can't see how this has an effect on camps, I suggest you try being a pirate for a month.

Here is the ship you're looking for: http://i.imgur.com/t2ZGfrd.jpg

If only there were some kind of way to check out what's on the other side with a cheap ship

Even better would be if there were several kinds of ways

If only there were some kind of way to check out what's on the other side with a cheap ship

Even better would be if there were several kinds of ways

If only there were some kind of way to check out what's on the other side with a cheap ship

Even better would be if there were several kinds of ways

You're making some very shaky assumptions in your post. I'll list a few of them.

(1) You're assuming that everyone in lo/null wants more people in lo/null (wrong)

(2) You're assuming that theese people who are wanted are unaffiliated strangers, rather than members of the groups already there (very wrong indeed).

(3) You're assuming that there aren't already viable ways to avoid gatecamps (extremely wrong)

(4) You're assuming that I'm "howling" for the nerfing of hi-sec. This is particularly wrong..

(5) You are assuming that the only way to get people into low/0.0 is to make it mechanically more like hi-sec.

In short: nobody in 0.0 wants people to move from hi-ec to 0.0 if the price is making 0.0 more like hi-sec. It's best if the people who like hi-sec stay in hi-sec and the people who want to move to 0.0 put in the minimal effort required learn how to operate in 0.0 rather than spend far more effort in "howling" for changes.

(1) If the Low/Null dwellers dont want more people in LowSec, why do they keep asking for the reasons to STAY in HighSec to be removed ?

(4) Every time a thread like this comes up you trot out the same line about nerfing high sec by removing L4 missions, thereby increasing the incentive to enter LowSec..... not once in a while.... pretty much EVERY time.

(1) If the Low/Null dwellers dont want more people in LowSec, why do they keep asking for the reasons to STAY in HighSec to be removed ?

The "flaw" in the design is if your interest is industry the game isn't setup well for it. That's why the industrialists are in high-sec in the first place. Low/Null isn't setup to encourage such players to go into those zones, as you're a rifleman first there. If you have three hours a night to play with your "career" do you want to waste it on pewpewpews? No. You stay in high-sec to play your interest.

Now if the game mechanics changed to where industrialist could actually work at their "careers" in low/null, then yes high-sec will move down to low/null. It's all about "can I play my interest?".

When I first started EvE I joined null corps to get down there to play my interest and sadly very disappointed. Because there was little industry to do. Didn't have the Roqual fleets or research centers to ply my trades. Any of that was ad hoc and not enough to justify playing the game even. I quit EvE out of nothing to do but pewpewpews. That isn't why I came into EvE, I want to play what it has that no other MMO has, not play something that every MMO has...pointless waste of money.

So I would like CCP to some how do away with gate camps...

.... They didn't want to make it possible to buy viable PvP hulls for under 10 mill ISK and fly them with less than 1M SP, but when they saw the pictures I had of them, the sheep and the jello tub, well, that argument was soon ended.

(Of course they'll pretend they wanted to do this all along. But now you know the truth.)

OK then it should be pretty easy for you to link 2 or 3 examples of me doing that.

This is true and it has been identified as an issue, and I can definitely confirm that it's on the agenda. You may note that conditions for industry in 0.0 have been improved a little in Odyssey (lots more slots and office spaces in 0.0 outposts, improved availablity of low end minerals). But that's only a first step.

If you want to remove a gate camp form an anti gate camp gang and do it yourself.

On the other hand I do think CCP needs to fix gate camps and station camps. An instant fix would be warp scram prevents docking and star gate jumping. Sitting at zero should not be risk free.

So I would like CCP to some how do away with gate camps.
I Do not have the full details on how this will work out.
My goal is not to lower the amount of pvp but do something to increase it.
Gate camps to me are not real pvp. I would like ccp to implement something to add more pvp to EVE without the use of gate camps. I am not sure what they could do to make this happen but I would like to see more pvp but little to no gate camps at all.

Maybe add lvl 6 agent to low to draw people into system and engage them at the site. Like i said I don't know how to pull this off but gate camps are boring and lame there needs to be a lot more options for pvp

Great more slots, more minerals. Won't help get others out there. It'll just be more alts of the same old blocs.

Well that's the nature of sov space: you can claim it. Why should the owners of sov space possibly want to let a bunch of randoms use their resources?

Well that's the nature of sov space: you can claim it. Why should the owners of sov space possibly want to let a bunch of randoms use their resources?

And much of it is unused and held for little reason other than the fact it can be held cheaply. If it were more difficult to defend borders, many of the large blocks would tighten up their borders and reduce their holdings, creating opportunity for smaller groups and more adventuresome solo activities.

Each gate being a castle keep and the cheap projection of power. These reduce the number of sov holding entities, and reduce the opportunities for small groups. Again, is more people out in null and low a good thing or a bad thing?

It's bad because you want to keep 'randoms' out? To me that reeks of some huge multinational corporation, urging government to create more regulations so that small competitors have a harder time of getting into an industry.

What's your motive, promoting more interesting and exciting game play or defending the profits of your null sec constituents, Mr. Politician.

I am pretty sure it's got more to do with the fact that your average "random" doesn't have the means to grind through Dominion sov mechanics in any kind of timely manner.

But it would help to get more players to do this, and encourage more warfare in null.

Problem now is the big blocs conquer and just sit like fat kings on their domains. It turns null into a form of high-sec.

Gate camps to me are not real pvp.

Only way to get rid of gate camps is to do away with the blob warfare, as a way to encourage small gang PvP (which should be the main PvP fare as it encourages having fun with your RL friends).
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That only works in Empire. In Null the dictor will prevent you from warping and the interceptor will decloak you. I've managed to get out of the bubble in gate camps because the interceptors were simply not paying enough attention and they were too slow.

If the interceptor knows what is he doing, you are toasted.

And much of it is unused and held for little reason other than the fact it can be held cheaply. If it were more difficult to defend borders, many of the large blocks would tighten up their borders and reduce their holdings, creating opportunity for smaller groups and more adventuresome solo activities.

Each gate being a castle keep and the cheap projection of power. These reduce the number of sov holding entities, and reduce the opportunities for small groups. Again, is more people out in null and low a good thing or a bad thing?

It's bad because you want to keep 'randoms' out? To me that reeks of some huge multinational corporation, urging government to create more regulations so that small competitors have a harder time of getting into an industry.

What's your motive, promoting more interesting and exciting game play or defending the profits of your null sec constituents, Mr. Politician.

Defending my profits promotes more and interesting gameplay for me. Like it or not the rich kids can afford more interesting toys. On the rare occasion I did get blown up, my alliance threw money at me to make it easier for me to create a new glorious explosion in space. Ultimately I'm here to entertain myself, and my friends. If that entertainment is had at your expense, so be it.

Again, is more people out in null and low a good thing or a bad thing?