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Anton Zuber
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Posted - 2006.01.24 08:35:00 -
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Wow... Good to know the list is appreciated. I'll try to sit down over the next few days and see about updating the list again. =)
Thanks again for all the support everyone!
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Anton Zuber
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Posted - 2006.01.24 23:40:00 -
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Lovely... just locked up the client trying to 'deliver' a research job. Let me see if I can nail down the details on this one. Done it twice in a row the same way so it's reproduceable.
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Anton Zuber
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Posted - 2006.01.25 00:13:00 -
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Hummm... Okay Here's the deal. Apparently it no longer requires any roles whatsoever to see jobs and blueprints.
However if you lack the correct roles to deliver a job the client will lockup when you attempt to do so.
I also tried remotely delivering the roles as a CEO although I lack the skills for remote factory stuff. Because I lack those skills this also froze the client. Bar starts, bar gets half-way. Popup appears telling me I lack remote factory skills. Bar completes and stops but the window remains. Client is frozen and remains frozen.
Suffice to say. I'm not amused with the new lockup bug. =P
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Anton Zuber
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Posted - 2006.01.25 01:00:00 -
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Okay. I've tried to go back through the list today and update everything. I'm having to get increasingly ruthless with shorter descriptiosn of problems in the main list. the 4000 character limit is a bit prohibitive.
As always, Let me know if you thing something needs to be added to the list. This is the place for it. =)
Good work everyone!
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Omber Zombie
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Posted - 2006.01.25 11:29:00 -
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some things I wouldn't mind being added:
The ability to select multiple corp members (like the new recycle/refine screen) this would allow multiple people to be assigned the same roles/titles or strip them, or even eject from corp. Would save a massive amount of time for corps that have to regularly clean out corp members or change titles.
New role: not sure of a name for it, but allows people to reclaim items that were impounded.
Message of the Day for corp channels.
Corp Mail folders, assignable as roles. Means you can send corp mails to specific parts of the corp depending on who has access (as much as i like mailing lists, they tend to be pretty open to anyone that can guess their name) ----------------------
Originally by: Seleene
I maintain that OZ is evil and have nothing further to add.
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Corey Grim
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Posted - 2006.01.25 12:24:00 -
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Plz Make it so that you only see players tittle if ur in hes corp. i dont mean those that directors can write what they want i mean the "tittle management tool" or whatever u call it.
+ show alliance standings against viewed character¦s (show info-->>standings) corporation so that when your corporation is in alliance it doesnt need to add all positive standing separately. alliance standings should be viewed in their own "box"
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Ralitge boyter
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Posted - 2006.01.26 08:31:00 -
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Originally by: Anton Zuber - A corporation should always know who owns shares
I think that might be a little extream, but when a certain group (corporation, Alliance or single player) manages to obtain 30% or more of the shares they should be forced to make them selfs known, below that no one should be forced to make known their investments.
Of course 4 single players that together own 30% of a corp and are all part of a certain alliance should be seen the same as when the alliance owns 30% of the shares. ------------------------------------------- Should you disagree with me, well I guess that is because I disagree with you. If you have a problem with that please feel free not to tell me. |
Corp Scammer
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Posted - 2006.01.26 09:05:00 -
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a list of all shareholders would be good. But corps that issue shares only have themselves to blame if the CEO doesnt hold more than 51% of the holdings to hold off a hostile takeover
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Eethrak
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Posted - 2006.01.26 13:55:00 -
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Originally by: Anton Zuber Hummm... Okay Here's the deal. Apparently it no longer requires any roles whatsoever to see jobs and blueprints.
However if you lack the correct roles to deliver a job the client will lockup when you attempt to do so.
I also tried remotely delivering the roles as a CEO although I lack the skills for remote factory stuff. Because I lack those skills this also froze the client. Bar starts, bar gets half-way. Popup appears telling me I lack remote factory skills. Bar completes and stops but the window remains. Client is frozen and remains frozen.
Suffice to say. I'm not amused with the new lockup bug. =P
I hit this the other night - hit escape and the popup eventually goes away. (This was windowed mode - I'm assuming its not different for full screen, but it might be)
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Eethrak
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Posted - 2006.01.26 13:59:00 -
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Originally by: Corp Scammer a list of all shareholders would be good. But corps that issue shares only have themselves to blame if the CEO doesnt hold more than 51% of the holdings to hold off a hostile takeover
Holding 51% of shares is not enough, as already mentioned in this thread, the problem is that you have to hold 51% AND check in at least every 24 hours to prevent someone kicking off a vote with a 1 day timeframe and you missing it. They can have 0.001%, you have 99.999% shares, you are counted as abstaining if you dont vote. There really ought to be a quorum for votes introduced, this would bypass the nightmare-ish scenarios.
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Eethrak
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Posted - 2006.01.26 14:12:00 -
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(Sorry for being spammy, I'm making posts as I read things here or think of them.)
I've been thinking about the corp mail box. The current implimentation seems to be that everyone is looking at the same mail box, rather than an area within your own inbox. This sort of makes sense, since there is no point in storing multiple copies of the same message when one copy for all corp members will suffice. HOWEVER, when corp messages get deleted, they get deleted for everyone, so someone who turns up after two weeks offline for example will be missing things depending on how often a corp clears out their inbox. Also, it seems that the "delete sender" option in your personal email space also affects the corp space, which seems pretty stupid. E.g. I don't want all my training complete emails, so I delete sender on myself, which removes the last couple of corp updates that I have sent round. This seems very broken.
What I'd like to see is the corp-mail function integrating as a folder within each person's own mailbox, so we can delete mail when we've read it without regard for anyone else, since they have their own copy. If however that will cause too much load for storage and processing mailshots to each member of a corp, the bare minimum that has to happen is for delete sender to only apply to your personal space, and the introduction of a popup saying YOU ARE ABOUT TO DELETE THIS MESSAGE FROM EVERY MEMBER - CONTINUE? when you try to delete a corp message. Even with a do not ask again button, at least the functionality of the system is much more transparent this way.
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Yurameki Daishun
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Posted - 2006.01.27 15:42:00 -
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Originally by: Eethrak
Originally by: Corp Scammer a list of all shareholders would be good. But corps that issue shares only have themselves to blame if the CEO doesnt hold more than 51% of the holdings to hold off a hostile takeover
Holding 51% of shares is not enough, as already mentioned in this thread, the problem is that you have to hold 51% AND check in at least every 24 hours to prevent someone kicking off a vote with a 1 day timeframe and you missing it. They can have 0.001%, you have 99.999% shares, you are counted as abstaining if you dont vote. There really ought to be a quorum for votes introduced, this would bypass the nightmare-ish scenarios.
agreed, this is really important.
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Eethrak
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Posted - 2006.01.27 22:48:00 -
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Originally by: Eethrak ...Also, it seems that the "delete sender" option in your personal email space also affects the corp space, which seems pretty stupid.
Further investigation, delete from sender doesn't affect corp messages, so obviously someone else deleted it. Should there be a role for mailbox manager? Or is this covered by Communications Officer?
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Anton Zuber
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Posted - 2006.01.27 23:40:00 -
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Communications officers allows you to delete messages in 'corp mail'. messeges deleted are deleted for everybody. Anybody in the corp may post to corp mail.
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SweatySack
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Posted - 2006.01.28 11:35:00 -
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Not sure if these have been mentioned or not but
Maybe have a setting for corp wallet spending that needs approval from the CEO. Say if it is set at 20 isk, then corp member/director can use 1-19 isk but anything 20 or higher would need approval from a CEO.
Not that great of an idea really, but all I could really think of.
That and NAMED POS ARRAYS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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Danton Marcellus
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Posted - 2006.01.29 01:10:00 -
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How about a toggle for disabling the map function show corporate members in space to new members.
Remind me about The Maze.
I'm Danton Marcellus and I approve of this message. |
Suze'Rain
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Posted - 2006.02.06 03:16:00 -
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do you think multiple tax "bands" is possible to set up...
ie, a lower tax for newbie members, and a greater tax for high-earner members of a corp?
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Versuvian man
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Posted - 2006.02.06 11:15:00 -
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brilliant ideas but how many will come to pass? also for corp shares discussion try my link http://oldforums.eveonline.com/?a=topic&threadID=257035 |
Andrue
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Posted - 2006.02.06 13:15:00 -
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Financial reports on individual's corporation orders would be good:
* Value of corporation orders placed by individual * Income from corporation orders placed by individual
Each individual should be able to generate these reports for themselves as well.
Alternatively:Export data from wallet :) -- (Battle hardened miner)
[Brackley, UK]
WARNING:This post may contain large doses of reality. |
Corp Scammer
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Posted - 2006.02.07 08:42:00 -
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hmmm individual reports sound good perhaps a daily allowance for certain roles. Divisional wallets with funds allocated by the CEO is a better idea
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Calzan
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Posted - 2006.02.07 17:15:00 -
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Some excelent stuff here guys.
A corp wallet summary is needed, hardcore.
You should be able to set the dates to summarize and it should be itemized by transaction type (market transaction, broker fee, ect).
Also, you should be able to export wallet data to a file. If I could have all this in a txt file so I could dump it into excel, searching my personal wallet and corp wallet history would be much much simpler.
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Xahro
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Posted - 2006.02.10 19:48:00 -
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Few of my thoughts
Corp / Accounts / Deliveries - ability to search delivery hangers - split delivery hangers to system / region / all tabs
All around make the delivery interface more like personal asset list.
Add ability to post escrow orders in the name of the corp. All fees and transaction should use corp wallet.
Allow players to start BPO jobs ( ME, PE, Copy, etc ) in the name of the corp without the corp being forced to have an office in that particular station, allowing the corp to pickup the costs associated with the job.
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Pro Hoe
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Posted - 2006.02.11 08:52:00 -
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SHARE SPLIT
I am in dire need of a share split feature because of the limitations of stocks. I am having to make an entire online stock app just to share stocks publicly. It has been extremely successful selling stocks to members of my own corp.
The major problem is when shares reach a certain value of trade. They need to be split. Well in order to split now I have to keep a running tally of everyone that has stocks and also a tally of who they were sold to. This is done with the online app and registration. A share split would make it simple.
"click the split button" X person with 10 shares now has 20 shares. Corp with 1000 shares now has 2000 shares. price of share = 1/2 original price.
Easy impliment from a program standpoint.
Thanks!
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Packtu'sa
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Posted - 2006.02.12 03:05:00 -
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Originally by: Anton Zuber Edited by: Anton Zuber on 25/01/2006 00:58:04 Bugs and feature requests - Corporate Wallet/Journal: "Market Escrow" is too vague - Corporate Wallet/Journal: 'player' buys stuff from 'player' is too vague - Corporation/Accounts/Journal: Update this to do something useful please - Votes Should list how many shares voted and how many abstained - Votes should require 50% minimum to pass, not 5%. It would be nice if the 'required percentage' was settable. - A corporation should always know who owns shares - Secure trade for shares - Show Info on a Corp often shows 1000 shares even when more shares exist. - Audit logs on hangers - Seperate Divisional Accounting - Some sort of security/logging for shared ships in hangars - 'Last Played' should be visible information - Remote viewing of containers - Remote viewing of container logs - Remote viewing the contents of a hangar array - Remotely viewing the fuel levels of a POS - Automated Corpmail messages are excessively spammy (sometimes Crashy) - Corp tickers with zero members should be deleted. Shares too - Corp assets should be organized by hangar - Better tools for managing corp standings - Delivery Boy: a seperate role for picking up deliveries - Trader/Salesman: a role for sell orders only - Trader/Procurement: a role for purchases only - More divisional Hangars (These should be unlimited, not simply 'more' of them-- there should be a button that says "Add Hangar" and you can then set the name for it, perhaps even permissions for it.) - More titles and longer titles (Same as the hangars-- no limit on the number, simply the ability to make new entries.) - Net Worth and Profits: Common sense Financial summary sheets. - A way to total up the market value of all items in a hangar would be useful. (I think this is harmful, as avg. market value is NEVER the actual value you get.) - Ceasefire Agreement: Allow it to be a part of the ceasefire agreement to specify a period of time. It will be impossible to redeclare war during this period. - Remotely splitting or stacking items. (for escrow and trading) - Right click features like 'set destination' for Corp Assets. - Uploadable Corp Logos (with approval maybe?) (This is hard to manage.) - Corp Logos and Ship names as art on your ship image (NO! DEFINATELY not.)
New problems with the RMR patch - CLIENT LOCKUP! When trying to "deliver" a job, if you lack any necessary roles or skills... - Unable to cancel factory/lab jobs? (Factory Manager) - Corp Blueprints are fully visible to all members. This should maybe require the hangar/query role - Rent factory/lab should not be required to use a BPO in a corp Hangar (Yes, it should.) - Factory manager should not be required to use a BPO stored in a corp hangar (Same as above.) - Corporation/Accounts/Assets/Jobs appears to be obsolete now - corp orders should list the total value of all unsold products - corp orders should be visible from the wallet as well (consistancy!)
Fixed - Corporate Wallet/Journal: can now view past 25 entries for current day - Corporate Assets/Deliveries has new right click options - Blueprints now show COPY, ML, and PL in the Science & Industry page.
I added my comments in underline above. I agree with everything in that list that I didn't comment on.
As for the shares, I think the corp CEO/Director/Accountant should know who has how many shares, but no other share changes should be made.
I'm a CEO, and even though I manage a very small corporation, I find it difficult to manage-- now what will happen when my member count exceeds 30 members? 50? 100? I hope these changes are implemented, but some of them (corp logos on ship? honestly, let's not get 12-year-old WoW into EVE....) are just rediculous.
Packtu'sa |
Johnathan Roark
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Posted - 2006.02.12 06:38:00 -
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Originally by: Packtu'sa
Bugs and feature requests - More divisional Hangars (These should be unlimited, not simply 'more' of them-- there should be a button that says "Add Hangar" and you can then set the name for it, perhaps even permissions for it.)
Problem with this is it can easily get out of hand and eat up resouces. Plus, I know very little about coding, but I can only imagine how hard this would be to code.
Originally by: Packtu'sa
- More titles and longer titles (Same as the hangars-- no limit on the number, simply the ability to make new entries.)
Same as above.
Originally by: Packtu'sa - Net Worth and Profits: Common sense Financial summary sheets. - A way to total up the market value of all items in a hangar would be useful. (I think this is harmful, as avg. market value is NEVER the actual value you get.)
this would be for quickly seeing approxment value.
Originally by: Packtu'sa - Corp Logos and Ship names as art on your ship image (NO! DEFINATELY not.)
Maybe optional? basically a way to display corp pride.
Originally by: Packtu'sa As for the shares, I think the corp CEO/Director/Accountant should know who has how many shares, but no other share changes should be made.
Alot of changes should be make, make them more funtional. Give us the tools, and the players will find new and creative ways to use them.
Originally by: Packtu'sa I'm a CEO, and even though I manage a very small corporation, I find it difficult to manage-- now what will happen when my member count exceeds 30 members? 50? 100? I hope these changes are implemented, but some of them (corp logos on ship? honestly, let's not get 12-year-old WoW into EVE....) are just rediculous.
It will get more and more complicated. YOu'll have to rely on your directors more and more. As for logos, its a way to show loyality to your corp. Many people put stuff in there bio about this.
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Packtu'sa
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Posted - 2006.02.12 07:02:00 -
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Originally by: Johnathan Roark Problem with this is it can easily get out of hand and eat up resouces. Plus, I know very little about coding, but I can only imagine how hard this would be to code.
Actually, it's almost no extra resource load. Since the current database has to store empty tables for hangar and title data even for corps that are empty, there is a whole lot of drive space that is simply wasted with empty tables. Yes, every time a new hangar was created, a new row in a table would have to be created-- but new rows are made all the time. Every time you split a stack, every time you buy something from the market, every time you send an EVE-mail, every time you... the list goes on, and hundreds (or even thousands) of new rows are made per second in EVE.
Originally by: Johnathan Roark As for logos, its a way to show loyality to your corp. Many people put stuff in there bio about this.
Yeah, I think LOGOS would be good, and put the logo in a little bordered plate-- but no ship names, that would get ugly. The only issue with logos is this: if the image isn't cached, the freeze-up when new ships warp in (or you warp into them) could really add up and become a serious problem.
Packtu'sa Founder/CEO Nabaal Construction and Industrials Corp |
Kipkruide
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Posted - 2006.02.12 09:30:00 -
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OKz here my five cents for the list,
corp tax should be able to be set from 0-100% on a corporate vote, all financial transactions should be taxable, as was promised before.
Atm all character history dissapears for people who leave corp making it very hard to track down thieves, so we need this information to be availabel for all peeps who are and were in corp. Also we need a list of peeps who left corp availbale in the members section of corporate tools, atm only the ceo gets mails that he deletes anywayz, so no history of peeps who left corp.
I'm totally for audit logs on hanger, would solve the whole thieving problem in one go. I understand that this would prob be very DB intensive so suggest limiting it to 1 of the 7 corp hangers, most usefull for where the expensive stuff is anywayz, for the rest you can use audit cans.
Vote on all functionality. Handy on bpo lockdowns. Also the ability to lock down a hanger of bpo's in one go , doing it one by one is fecking torture, so lockdown in right click menu please.
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Packtu'sa
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Posted - 2006.02.12 17:18:00 -
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Votes should not be required for lockdown or taxrates... it's simple enough for a corp CEO to put up a custom vote about the tax rate, and then change it accordingly.
Audit logs for corp hangars wouldn't put terribly much load on the server, I don't think... new rows all the time, yes, but as long as logs had to be retrieved the way wallet journals are, the SELECT load wouldn't be too much.
Packtu'sa Founder/CEO Nabaal Construction and Industrials Corp |
Johnathan Roark
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Posted - 2006.02.13 02:54:00 -
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Edited by: Johnathan Roark on 13/02/2006 02:54:24
Originally by: Packtu'sa
Originally by: Johnathan Roark As for logos, its a way to show loyality to your corp. Many people put stuff in there bio about this.
Yeah, I think LOGOS would be good, and put the logo in a little bordered plate-- but no ship names, that would get ugly. The only issue with logos is this: if the image isn't cached, the freeze-up when new ships warp in (or you warp into them) could really add up and become a serious problem.
Maybe somtheing thats only displayed when you click look at?
Originally by: Packtu'sa Votes should not be required for lockdown or taxrates... it's simple enough for a corp CEO to put up a custom vote about the tax rate, and then change it accordingly.
Audit logs for corp hangars wouldn't put terribly much load on the server, I don't think... new rows all the time, yes, but as long as logs had to be retrieved the way wallet journals are, the SELECT load wouldn't be too much.
Actually, id liketo keep the ability to lockdown bpos with a vote, but needs a select all feature.
A lock like audit containers would be very nice too for hangers.
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Rawne Karrde
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Posted - 2006.02.13 16:19:00 -
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divisional wallets and for heavens sake, corp wallet export. A good parser tool could then atleast be used to help with doing the books. Would actually allow for more peeps to provide profit loss sheets and actually better able to carry on share buying/selling practises.
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