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P3ps1 Max
Hedion University Amarr Empire
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Posted - 2013.07.03 14:41:00 -
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I've seen quite a few posts regarding this F2P nonsense. The best avenue to take for the company 'imo', is to charge for an expansion(s). With 4 expansions each year with a set price at 19.99$ or 1 expansion with 3 content updates during the year
A company that comes to mind that is extremely successful with this is Guild Wars 2 (which is a pretty bad ass game) which doesn't charge a cent to play each month. They do however have a **** load of micro-transactions from their market place but those items are not game changing but rather clothing and other cool paraphernalia .
To me Eve is setup for success using this business model.
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Doc Fury
Furious Enterprises
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Posted - 2013.07.03 14:42:00 -
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P3ps1 Max wrote:Expansions should cost $
They already do, it costs $15/mo.
Sad that you rolled an alt just to post this. The accumulated filth of all their sex and murder will foam up about their waists and all the ho's and politicians will look up and shout 'Save us!' and I'll look down, and whisper 'Hodor'. |
Intar Medris
Combat BV Sovereign Infinity
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Posted - 2013.07.03 14:45:00 -
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P3ps1 Max wrote:I've seen quite a few posts regarding this F2P nonsense. The best avenue to take for the company 'imo', is to charge for an expansion(s). With 4 expansions each year with a set price at 19.99$ or 1 expansion with 3 content updates during the year A company that comes to mind that is extremely successful with this is Guild Wars 2 (which is a pretty bad ass game) which doesn't charge a cent to play each month. They do however have a **** load of micro-transactions from their market place but those items are not game changing but rather clothing and other cool paraphernalia . To me Eve is setup for success using this business model. Go back to back to WOW. I try to be nice and mind my business just shooting lasers at rocks. There is just way too many asshats in New Eden for that to happen. |
P3ps1 Max
Hedion University Amarr Empire
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Posted - 2013.07.03 14:46:00 -
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Doc Fury wrote:P3ps1 Max wrote:Expansions should cost $ They already do, it costs $15/mo.
Yea, when majority of the player base is playing for free. But then you have new players with a high turnover ratio paying the bills.
To me this would give CCP greater revenue while providing larger content to its players. More content is a win win for everyone.
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P3ps1 Max
Hedion University Amarr Empire
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Posted - 2013.07.03 14:47:00 -
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Intar Medris wrote:P3ps1 Max wrote:I've seen quite a few posts regarding this F2P nonsense. The best avenue to take for the company 'imo', is to charge for an expansion(s). With 4 expansions each year with a set price at 19.99$ or 1 expansion with 3 content updates during the year A company that comes to mind that is extremely successful with this is Guild Wars 2 (which is a pretty bad ass game) which doesn't charge a cent to play each month. They do however have a **** load of micro-transactions from their market place but those items are not game changing but rather clothing and other cool paraphernalia . To me Eve is setup for success using this business model. Go back to back to WOW.
Go back to your cave. Constructive feedback please.
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Doc Fury
Furious Enterprises
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Posted - 2013.07.03 14:47:00 -
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P3ps1 Max wrote:Doc Fury wrote:P3ps1 Max wrote:Expansions should cost $ They already do, it costs $15/mo. Yea, when majority of the player base is playing for free.
* citation needed *
The accumulated filth of all their sex and murder will foam up about their waists and all the ho's and politicians will look up and shout 'Save us!' and I'll look down, and whisper 'Hodor'. |
Inxentas Ultramar
Ultramar Independent Contracting Home Front Coalition
562
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Posted - 2013.07.03 14:48:00 -
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The problem with this concept is that Eve is a single shard universe, content really can't be made optional as it can with instanced worlds. |
Deacon Abox
Justified Chaos
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Posted - 2013.07.03 14:48:00 -
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P3ps1 Max wrote:I've seen quite a few posts regarding this F2P nonsense. The best avenue to take for the company 'imo', is to charge for an expansion(s). With 4 expansions each year with a set price at 19.99$ or 1 expansion with 3 content updates during the year A company that comes to mind that is extremely successful with this is Guild Wars 2 (which is a pretty bad ass game) which doesn't charge a cent to play each month. They do however have a **** load of micro-transactions from their market place but those items are not game changing but rather clothing and other cool paraphernalia . To me Eve is setup for success using this business model. Have you been in this game even long enough to realize that if you don't download an expansion you can't even log in anywhere? This is not a sharded game. Also, what you propose is ~$80/yr as opposed to ~$132/yr presently under the monthly sub payment. So how exactly does that create revenue for CCP? Also, supposedly, the vanity items such as clothing and ship skins/decals are in the works already.
So, your post is bad, and maybe you aren't as knowledgeable as you thought. |
Riot Girl
Thundercats The Initiative.
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Posted - 2013.07.03 14:48:00 -
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It wouldn't work. Oh god. |
Adunh Slavy
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Posted - 2013.07.03 14:49:00 -
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In before you are treated as a heritic at the stake and the soon to follow lock |
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Tenchi Sal
Dust Bunnies 514
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Posted - 2013.07.03 14:49:00 -
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P3ps1 Max wrote:I've seen quite a few posts regarding this F2P nonsense. The best avenue to take for the company 'imo', is to charge for an expansion(s). With 4 expansions each year with a set price at 19.99$ or 1 expansion with 3 content updates during the year A company that comes to mind that is extremely successful with this is Guild Wars 2 (which is a pretty bad ass game) which doesn't charge a cent to play each month. They do however have a **** load of micro-transactions from their market place but those items are not game changing but rather clothing and other cool paraphernalia . To me Eve is setup for success using this business model.
Find a charity every expansion release. Donate 15 bucks per account. Live life and be happy. |
P3ps1 Max
Hedion University Amarr Empire
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Posted - 2013.07.03 14:50:00 -
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Doc Fury wrote:P3ps1 Max wrote:Doc Fury wrote:P3ps1 Max wrote:Expansions should cost $ They already do, it costs $15/mo. Yea, when majority of the player base is playing for free. * citation needed *
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tJqsLgIRvys |
Lugalbandak
Anunnaku Industrial Corp. Northern Associates.
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Posted - 2013.07.03 14:50:00 -
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P3ps1 Max wrote:Doc Fury wrote:P3ps1 Max wrote:Expansions should cost $ They already do, it costs $15/mo. Yea, when majority of the player base is playing for free. But then you have new players with a high turnover ratio paying the bills. To me this would give CCP greater revenue while providing larger content to its players. More content is a win win for everyone.
PLEX ARNT OF THIN AIR!!!!!!!!!!!!!! SOmbody paid for sombody else so called "free" game time |
P3ps1 Max
Hedion University Amarr Empire
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Posted - 2013.07.03 14:51:00 -
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Inxentas Ultramar wrote:The problem with this concept is that Eve is a single shard universe, content really can't be made optional as it can with instanced worlds.
Not optional, don't purchase the expansion, can't log in.
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P3ps1 Max
Hedion University Amarr Empire
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Posted - 2013.07.03 14:52:00 -
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Riot Girl wrote:It wouldn't work.
Why not? |
War Kitten
Panda McLegion
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Posted - 2013.07.03 14:53:00 -
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You thought Pepsi Max was a good name, why should we care what else you think?
I find that without a good mob to provide one for them, most people would have no mentality at all. |
Riot Girl
Thundercats The Initiative.
1264
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Posted - 2013.07.03 14:53:00 -
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P3ps1 Max wrote:Riot Girl wrote:It wouldn't work. Why not?
The ecology of the game is too delicate. Oh god. |
Deacon Abox
Justified Chaos
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Posted - 2013.07.03 14:53:00 -
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Thank you for proving yourself wrong. You are either an idiot or a troll, or both |
Ramona McCandless
The McCandless Clan Turing Tested
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Posted - 2013.07.03 14:53:00 -
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P3ps1 Max wrote: Go back to your cave.
You go back to YOUR cave
Guild Wars is a GAME not a COMPANY
Or is that concept too hard to grasp for you " Ramona McCandless, you're my hero." - Domanique Altares, Rifterlings, Point Blank Alliance
Tell The Others |
P3ps1 Max
Hedion University Amarr Empire
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Posted - 2013.07.03 14:54:00 -
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Riot Girl wrote:P3ps1 Max wrote:Riot Girl wrote:It wouldn't work. Why not? The ecology of the game is too delicate.
Is this code word for player's wallets are too delicate?
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Doc Fury
Furious Enterprises
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Posted - 2013.07.03 14:55:00 -
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P3ps1 Max wrote:Doc Fury wrote:P3ps1 Max wrote:Doc Fury wrote:P3ps1 Max wrote:Expansions should cost $ They already do, it costs $15/mo. Yea, when majority of the player base is playing for free. * citation needed * http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tJqsLgIRvys
Sorry, nowhere in that video does it say that a majority of players play EVE for free.
This only proves you don't understand how PLEX or EVE works.
The accumulated filth of all their sex and murder will foam up about their waists and all the ho's and politicians will look up and shout 'Save us!' and I'll look down, and whisper 'Hodor'. |
Riot Girl
Thundercats The Initiative.
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Posted - 2013.07.03 14:55:00 -
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P3ps1 Max wrote:Riot Girl wrote:P3ps1 Max wrote:Riot Girl wrote:It wouldn't work. Why not? The ecology of the game is too delicate. Is this code word for player's wallets are too delicate?
That's an important factor, yes.
Oh god. |
Enris Athonille
Novation Corporation
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Posted - 2013.07.03 14:58:00 -
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"There is no such thing a free lunch." -Milton Friedman
All accounts are either being paid monthly or 5 dollars over the monthly fee on average. The plex is player generated so nobody is actually playing for free. Out of all the subscribed accounts CCP is making money on everyone one of them and more because of the cost of plex. Who shoulders the cost though is dependent on the players, they can either use there isk towards PLEX or they can just buy time. So its a fair and balanced system. |
brinelan
The Flying Dead Insidious Empire
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Posted - 2013.07.03 14:59:00 -
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and how exactly would you propose to deal with people who haven't paid for the expansion? It works in theme park games but wont really work here by design. |
Ramona McCandless
The McCandless Clan Turing Tested
555
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Posted - 2013.07.03 15:00:00 -
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P3ps1 Max wrote:Ramona McCandless wrote:P3ps1 Max wrote: Go back to your cave.
You go back to YOUR cave Guild Wars is a GAME not a COMPANY Or is that concept too hard to grasp for you Thank you for stating the obvious.
P3ps1 Max wrote: A company that comes to mind that is extremely successful with this is Guild Wars 2
Not obvious to you apparently " Ramona McCandless, you're my hero." - Domanique Altares, Rifterlings, Point Blank Alliance
Tell The Others |
P3ps1 Max
Hedion University Amarr Empire
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Posted - 2013.07.03 15:02:00 -
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@Doc Fury
geesh,
1:05 mark "descent percentage of our user base" use plex to play.
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Paul Panala
Beyond the Shadows
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Posted - 2013.07.03 15:02:00 -
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I 100% disagree. Eve, like any MMO, is a single product, the service and the client go hand-in-hand, you can't have one without the other. You pay a monthly fee for the service, that fee includes updates to the client.
If you don't like the fact that some people play for free, it isn't a big deal. Players who PLEX their accounts don't cost CCP anything. They are buying the PLEX from someone else who paid real world money, so it is a 1 for 1. PLEX typically cost more than a month of service, so CCP actually makes a little extra. |
Paul Panala
Beyond the Shadows
56
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Posted - 2013.07.03 15:03:00 -
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P3ps1 Max wrote:Doc Fury wrote:P3ps1 Max wrote:Expansions should cost $ They already do, it costs $15/mo. Yea, when majority of the player base is playing for free. But then you have new players with a high turnover ratio paying the bills. To me this would give CCP greater revenue while providing larger content to its players. More content is a win win for everyone.
This isn't the way it works. Those PLEX on the market are there because real players bought them and put them there. |
Elvis Fett
Quantum Cats Syndicate Samurai Pizza Cats
215
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Posted - 2013.07.03 15:03:00 -
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The OP is absolutely pure genius! I have a feeling the OP has a MBA from Harvard Business School, because business savvy like that does not just come natural. When your business has shown ten years of continued growth, what better time is there for a complete restructuring of your business model. You know that old saying, "If it ain't broke, f*^% it all up."
Oh and 0/10 troll, would not read again. |
P3ps1 Max
Hedion University Amarr Empire
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Posted - 2013.07.03 15:03:00 -
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quote brinelan, and how exactly would you propose to deal with people who haven't paid for the expansion?
Really? |
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