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Doc Fury Furious Enterprises 2737	Posted - 2013.07.03 15:32:00 - [61] - Quote P3ps1 Max wrote: Doc Fury wrote: Paul Panala wrote: P3ps1 Max wrote: @Doc Fury geesh, 1:05 mark "descent percentage of our user base" use plex to play. - - - - - - - - - - You didn't say "decent percentage" in your OP now did you? You said a majority, which means more than 50%. lol just wow He is right, a "decent percentage" could easily be 25% or less. Either way, what is your point? Do you feel like the game is somehow hurt buy people who play for free? CCP makes money from those PLEX, so they are not really playing for free, they are playing because they traded with another person who is paying double. Pay attention P3ps1 Max. This is an example of someone who understands how both language and PLEX work. Anyways, this topic was about how ccp could bring in more revenue. Way to move the goalposts now that your primary argument has been destroyed. Ace, is that you? The accumulated filth of all their sex and murder will foam up about their waists and all the ho's and politicians will look up and shout 'Save us!' and I'll look down, and whisper 'Hodor'.
slam34 Defiance LLC 5	Posted - 2013.07.03 15:33:00 - [62] - Quote random brand new toons starting threads on F2P after CCP announces hiring of F2P guy from EA. stealth dev, or metagaming opponents trolling. Wait, where's my tinfoil hat now? -áPeople are people. No matter what country, culture, religion, political party, business or communtiy you encounter in your travels, you will never find a shortage of people who will make it their personal mission in life to tell you how to live yours.
Enris Athonille Novation Corporation 3	Posted - 2013.07.03 15:33:00 - [63] - Quote P3ps1 Max wrote: Anyways, this topic was about how ccp could bring in more revenue. Glad to know Plex is the backbone of the game. Attract more players. /thread
Ramona McCandless The McCandless Clan Turing Tested 558	Posted - 2013.07.03 15:34:00 - [64] - Quote P3ps1 Max wrote: What is up with you and the wow references. Doc Fury wrote: Ace, is that you? You know........ " Ramona McCandless, you're my hero." - Domanique Altares, Rifterlings, Point Blank Alliance Tell The Others
P3ps1 Max Hedion University Amarr Empire 0	Posted - 2013.07.03 15:35:00 - [65] - Quote Doc Fury wrote: P3ps1 Max wrote: Doc Fury wrote: Paul Panala wrote: P3ps1 Max wrote: @Doc Fury geesh, 1:05 mark "descent percentage of our user base" use plex to play. - - - - - - - - - - You didn't say "decent percentage" in your OP now did you? You said a majority, which means more than 50%. lol just wow He is right, a "decent percentage" could easily be 25% or less. Either way, what is your point? Do you feel like the game is somehow hurt buy people who play for free? CCP makes money from those PLEX, so they are not really playing for free, they are playing because they traded with another person who is paying double. Pay attention P3ps1 Max. This is an example of someone who understands how both language and PLEX work. Anyways, this topic was about how ccp could bring in more revenue. Way to move the goalposts now that your primary argument has been destroyed. Ace, is that you? What Argument? lol Ace? How many alts have you posted on this thread? lulz
P3ps1 Max Hedion University Amarr Empire 0	Posted - 2013.07.03 15:36:00 - [66] - Quote Enris Athonille wrote: P3ps1 Max wrote: Anyways, this topic was about how ccp could bring in more revenue. Glad to know Plex is the backbone of the game. Attract more players. /thread This too
Intar Medris Combat BV Sovereign Infinity 91	Posted - 2013.07.03 15:37:00 - [67] - Quote P3ps1 Max wrote: Intar Medris wrote: P3ps1 Max wrote: I've seen quite a few posts regarding this F2P nonsense. The best avenue to take for the company 'imo', is to charge for an expansion(s). With 4 expansions each year with a set price at 19.99$ or 1 expansion with 3 content updates during the year A company that comes to mind that is extremely successful with this is Guild Wars 2 (which is a pretty bad ass game) which doesn't charge a cent to play each month. They do however have a ** load of micro-transactions from their market place but those items are not game changing but rather clothing and other cool paraphernalia . To me Eve is setup for success using this business model. Go back to back to WOW. Go back to your cave. Constructive feedback please. Your a *** a noon with a brilliant idea how to... What lose much of EVE's player base? Not to mention one of its biggest assets. The biggest reason I don't play WOW or any of its clones is because of the paid expansions. I am not paying a company 15-20 per month then have to pay for DLC or expansions. It is people like you that stupid enough to fall for that that gaming studios nickel and dime us to death now. Pay $60 for a half assed game then spend $60-100 more on the DLC that completes the product. If gaming companies pulled this ** in 80s gaming wouldn't have survived that decade. I try to be nice and mind my business just shooting lasers at rocks. There is just way too many asshats in New Eden for that to happen.
De'Veldrin Native Freshfood Minmatar Republic 1685	Posted - 2013.07.03 15:39:00 - [68] - Quote P3ps1 Max wrote: Paul Panala wrote: P3ps1 Max wrote: @Doc Fury geesh, 1:05 mark "descent percentage of our user base" use plex to play. - - - - - - - - - - You didn't say "decent percentage" in your OP now did you? You said a majority, which means more than 50%. lol just wow He is right, a "decent percentage" could easily be 25% or less. Either way, what is your point? Do you feel like the game is somehow hurt buy people who play for free? CCP makes money from those PLEX, so they are not really playing for free, they are playing because they traded with another person who is paying double. lol you seriously believe every plex on the market was purchased by someone? I could be wrong and if so I stand corrected. Ok, it's confirmed. Dude's trolling us. No one is THIS ******* clueless about how PLEX work. Eve Online: The full-contact sport for your brain.
Ramona McCandless The McCandless Clan Turing Tested 558	Posted - 2013.07.03 15:39:00 - [69] - Quote P3ps1 Max wrote: Ace? www.youtube.com/watch?v=BYIfDAHeIWs " Ramona McCandless, you're my hero." - Domanique Altares, Rifterlings, Point Blank Alliance Tell The Others
Doc Fury Furious Enterprises 2739	Posted - 2013.07.03 15:41:00 - [70] - Quote P3ps1 Max wrote: How many alts have you posted on this thread? lulz That would imply I needed alts to point out you don't have a clue what you are talking about. Fortunately a lot of the EVE community does have a clue and did this for me. Try harder. The accumulated filth of all their sex and murder will foam up about their waists and all the ho's and politicians will look up and shout 'Save us!' and I'll look down, and whisper 'Hodor'.
Ramona McCandless The McCandless Clan Turing Tested 558	Posted - 2013.07.03 15:41:00 - [71] - Quote Intar Medris wrote: Your a ***** a noon with a brilliant idea how to... What lose much of EVE's player base? Not to mention one of its biggest assets. The biggest reason I don't play WOW or any of its clones is because of the paid expansions. I am not paying a company 15-20 per month then have to pay for DLC or expansions. It is people like you that stupid enough to fall for that that gaming studios nickel and dime us to death now. Pay $60 for a half assed game then spend $60-100 more on the DLC that completes the product. If gaming companies pulled this in 80s gaming wouldn't have survived that decade. +1 Critical Hit (Cockpit) I wish to subscribe to your newsletter Where is the nearest mission for your church? " Ramona McCandless, you're my hero." - Domanique Altares, Rifterlings, Point Blank Alliance Tell The Others**
flakeys Interstellar Corporation of Science and Technology Interstellar Confederation 1211	Posted - 2013.07.03 15:43:00 - [72] - Quote /me awaits a new region AND a new shipclass with at least every expansion then offcourse .... We are all born ignorant, but one must work hard to remain stupid.
P3ps1 Max Hedion University Amarr Empire 0	Posted - 2013.07.03 15:43:00 - [73] - Quote Intar Medris wrote: P3ps1 Max wrote: Intar Medris wrote: P3ps1 Max wrote: I've seen quite a few posts regarding this F2P nonsense. The best avenue to take for the company 'imo', is to charge for an expansion(s). With 4 expansions each year with a set price at 19.99$ or 1 expansion with 3 content updates during the year A company that comes to mind that is extremely successful with this is Guild Wars 2 (which is a pretty bad ass game) which doesn't charge a cent to play each month. They do however have a ** load of micro-transactions from their market place but those items are not game changing but rather clothing and other cool paraphernalia . To me Eve is setup for success using this business model. Go back to back to WOW. Go back to your cave. Constructive feedback please. Your a *** a noon with a brilliant idea how to... What lose much of EVE's player base? Not to mention one of its biggest assets. The biggest reason I don't play WOW or any of its clones is because of the paid expansions. I am not paying a company 15-20 per month then have to pay for DLC or expansions. It is people like you that stupid enough to fall for that that gaming studios nickel and dime us to death now. Pay $60 for a half assed game then spend $60-100 more on the DLC that completes the product. If gaming companies pulled this ** in 80s gaming wouldn't have survived that decade. I totally agree that some of the nickle and dimming that goes on in the gaming industry today is complete bulls^&T. I was a huge fan of Modern Warfare but what pulled me away was the map packs that came out every few months. I think now they even sell different skins for weapons lol Bf3 and bf4 for me
Paul Panala Beyond the Shadows 56	Posted - 2013.07.03 15:44:00 - [74] - Quote P3ps1 Max wrote: [quote=Paul Panala][quote=P3ps1 Max]@Doc Fury lol you seriously believe every plex on the market was purchased by someone? I could be wrong and if so I stand corrected. Yes I do. Why on Earth would it be any other way? Way would CCP add PLEX to the market? Doing so would take money right out of their pocket!! I have often wondered the opposite, if every PLEX buy order on the market is real. CCP buying PLEX off the market would basically be like free money for them! If the value of a PLEX ever goes much below 500 mil I have no doubt in my mind that they do this.
P3ps1 Max Hedion University Amarr Empire 0	Posted - 2013.07.03 15:52:00 - [75] - Quote Doc Fury wrote: P3ps1 Max wrote: How many alts have you posted on this thread? lulz That would imply I needed alts to point out you don't have a clue what you are talking about. Try harder. lol Geeee, thanks. I have no clue about plex? Well darn I'll read a book on it later.
De'Veldrin Native Freshfood Minmatar Republic 1686	Posted - 2013.07.03 15:54:00 - [76] - Quote P3ps1 Max wrote: I have no clue about plex? That, at least, I am pretty sure we can all agree on. Eve Online: The full-contact sport for your brain.
Shaera Taam Minmatar Death Squad Broken Chains Alliance 75	Posted - 2013.07.03 15:54:00 - [77] - Quote /rolls her eyes at the troll... And everyone else feeding the troll. In a non-instanced game such as EVE, not paying the expansion fee is de facto unsubbing, for the simple reason that not having the expansion shuts you out of the code-base. CCP charging for an expansion would be seen as a blatant-money grab and would cost them more customers than they could possibly make up with the expansion fee. It is my personal opinion that CCPs current model is really just about as optimal a setup as they can ask for. PLEX was a stroke of frickin genius... It gives CCP a monthly kicker to their sub income and allows the player-base the illusion of being able to "play for free." Genius. ...dammit, now i gotta roll my eyes at myself... Thus Spake the Frigate Goddess!
BoBoZoBo Paragon Fury Tactical Narcotics Team 280	Posted - 2013.07.03 15:56:00 - [78] - Quote P3ps1 Max wrote: Doc Fury wrote: P3ps1 Max wrote: Expansions should cost $ They already do, it costs $15/mo. Yea, when majority of the player base is playing for free. But then you have new players with a high turnover ratio paying the bills. To me this would give CCP greater revenue while providing larger content to its players. More content is a win win for everyone. To you? Based off what evidence? Primary Test Subject GÇó SmackTalker Elite
Doc Fury Furious Enterprises 2743	Posted - 2013.07.03 15:57:00 - [79] - Quote P3ps1 Max wrote: Doc Fury wrote: P3ps1 Max wrote: How many alts have you posted on this thread? lulz That would imply I needed alts to point out you don't have a clue what you are talking about. Try harder. lol Geeee, thanks. I have no clue about plex? Well darn I'll read a book on it later. You have proven to have no clue whatsoever, this is not just limited to PLEX. The accumulated filth of all their sex and murder will foam up about their waists and all the ho's and politicians will look up and shout 'Save us!' and I'll look down, and whisper 'Hodor'.
P3ps1 Max Hedion University Amarr Empire 0	Posted - 2013.07.03 15:59:00 - [80] - Quote Doc Fury wrote: P3ps1 Max wrote: Doc Fury wrote: P3ps1 Max wrote: How many alts have you posted on this thread? lulz That would imply I needed alts to point out you don't have a clue what you are talking about. Try harder. lol Geeee, thanks. I have no clue about plex? Well darn I'll read a book on it later. You have proven to have no clue whatsoever, this is not just limited to PLEX. It isn't? Please broaden my horizons I'm all ears / derp all eyes.
Miilla Hulkageddon Orphanage 597	Posted - 2013.07.03 16:00:00 - [81] - Quote Eve is not F2P, somebody always pays. If it comes down to paid expansions vs subscriotion it has to be one or the other NOT both. You do realise Eve customer base is fragile due to the multi account issue, go back and read Incarna threadnaught
Ramona McCandless The McCandless Clan Turing Tested 559	Posted - 2013.07.03 16:02:00 - [82] - Quote P3ps1 Max wrote: Bf3 and bf4 for me So... Battlefield after it was totally ruined with DLC That explains a lot " Ramona McCandless, you're my hero." - Domanique Altares, Rifterlings, Point Blank Alliance Tell The Others
P3ps1 Max Hedion University Amarr Empire 0	Posted - 2013.07.03 16:02:00 - [83] - Quote Miilla wrote: Eve is not F2P, somebody always pays. If it comes down to paid expansions vs subscriotion it has to be one or the other NOT both. You do realise Eve customer base is fragile due to the multi account issue, go back and read Incarna threadnaught Agree.
P3ps1 Max Hedion University Amarr Empire 0	Posted - 2013.07.03 16:03:00 - [84] - Quote Ramona McCandless wrote: P3ps1 Max wrote: Bf3 and bf4 for me So... Battlefield after it was totally ruined with DLC That explains a lot Pick your poison
Ramona McCandless The McCandless Clan Turing Tested 559	Posted - 2013.07.03 16:05:00 - [85] - Quote P3ps1 Max wrote: Ramona McCandless wrote: P3ps1 Max wrote: Bf3 and bf4 for me So... Battlefield after it was totally ruined with DLC That explains a lot Pick your poison If its a FPS, BF2 is still far superior to either If its an MMO, Ill take EvE in its current form At all toher times, Ill take Tempest and Roadblasters, ta " Ramona McCandless, you're my hero." - Domanique Altares, Rifterlings, Point Blank Alliance Tell The Others
Ilkahn DisturbedGamers. The Explicit Alliance 60	Posted - 2013.07.03 16:07:00 - [86] - Quote Fear not citizens of EVE. We brought CCP to it's knees by shooting indestructable monuments in Jita and flooding the forums with E-Rage and bittervet comments. CCP built the world, we pay for it and make the rules by which we rule it. In the event they fail to listen to us, we shall import angry chinese women workers and watch them barracade said staff into their offices feeding them cold noodles till our demands are met. But never fear, Mintchip may leave... we like her.
Doc Fury Furious Enterprises 2750	Posted - 2013.07.03 16:09:00 - [87] - Quote P3ps1 Max wrote: Doc Fury wrote: P3ps1 Max wrote: Doc Fury wrote: P3ps1 Max wrote: How many alts have you posted on this thread? lulz That would imply I needed alts to point out you don't have a clue what you are talking about. Try harder. lol Geeee, thanks. I have no clue about plex? Well darn I'll read a book on it later. You have proven to have no clue whatsoever, this is not just limited to PLEX. It isn't? Please broaden my horizons I'm all ears / derp all eyes. No thanks, others have already done this. To pile on any more at this point would be like kicking a puppy. The accumulated filth of all their sex and murder will foam up about their waists and all the ho's and politicians will look up and shout 'Save us!' and I'll look down, and whisper 'Hodor'.
Frostys Virpio Lame Corp Name 537	Posted - 2013.07.03 16:11:00 - [88] - Quote Ramona McCandless wrote: P3ps1 Max wrote: Bf3 and bf4 for me So... Battlefield after it was totally ruined with DLC That explains a lot What exactly was ruined by the DLC you didn't need to buy? You could also buy them all in a few month of eve subs and then be done and never have to pay a dime over it.
Ramona McCandless The McCandless Clan Turing Tested 560	Posted - 2013.07.03 16:13:00 - [89] - Quote Frostys Virpio wrote: Ramona McCandless wrote: P3ps1 Max wrote: Bf3 and bf4 for me So... Battlefield after it was totally ruined with DLC That explains a lot What exactly was ruined by the DLC you didn't need to buy? You could also buy them all in a few month of eve subs and then be done and never have to pay a dime over it. Sorry, should have made myself clearer So... Battlefield after it was totally ruined And had DLC added to boot Better? " Ramona McCandless, you're my hero." - Domanique Altares, Rifterlings, Point Blank Alliance Tell The Others
bloodknight2 Talledega Knights PLEASE NOT VIOLENCE OUR BOATS 102	Posted - 2013.07.03 16:22:00 - [90] - Quote I wouldn't mind paying 5$ for every expansion if CCP gives me free gift <3

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