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Ramona McCandless The McCandless Clan Turing Tested 562	Posted - 2013.07.03 16:23:00 - [91] - Quote bloodknight2 wrote: I wouldn't mind paying 5$ for every expansion if CCP gives me free gift <3 Id pay for the expansions if I got a toy spaceboat " Ramona McCandless, you're my hero." - Domanique Altares, Rifterlings, Point Blank Alliance Tell The Others
Mike Azariah Gallente Benevolence Association 394	Posted - 2013.07.03 16:25:00 - [92] - Quote Bad idea. Unless you can PROVE that a second market model will work better then you are jumping for the sake of jumping and OP is asking because they don't want to pay for a subscription anymore. (probably) So . . . no But to clear up one misconception. Some plex out there were NOT paid for by players. Prizes from tourneys, bonuses for recruiting new players leap to mind, Back to the original idea? Shift to F2P and bill the expansions? All discussion after the Deacon Abox 's one in post 8 are pretty well irrelevant and the usual strawman arguments. m Mike Azariah-á CSM8
bloodknight2 Talledega Knights PLEASE NOT VIOLENCE OUR BOATS 102	Posted - 2013.07.03 16:26:00 - [93] - Quote Ramona McCandless wrote: bloodknight2 wrote: I wouldn't mind paying 5$ for every expansion if CCP gives me free gift <3 Id pay for the expansions if I got a toy spaceboat How about the new polaris frigate? https://fbcdn-sphotos-h-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-prn2/1045098_10151692802679394_305895309_n.jpg
Ramona McCandless The McCandless Clan Turing Tested 565	Posted - 2013.07.03 16:27:00 - [94] - Quote bloodknight2 wrote: Ramona McCandless wrote: bloodknight2 wrote: I wouldn't mind paying 5$ for every expansion if CCP gives me free gift <3 Id pay for the expansions if I got a toy spaceboat How about the new polaris frigate? https://fbcdn-sphotos-h-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-prn2/1045098_10151692802679394_305895309_n.jpg Nah id only want a toy spaceboat that I can has ingame " Ramona McCandless, you're my hero." - Domanique Altares, Rifterlings, Point Blank Alliance Tell The Others
De'Veldrin Native Freshfood Minmatar Republic 1691	Posted - 2013.07.03 16:28:00 - [95] - Quote Mike Azariah wrote: But to clear up one misconception. Some plex out there were NOT paid for by players. Prizes from tourneys, bonuses for recruiting new players leap to mind, Statistically speaking that number is so small it can be considered to be 0. Eve Online: The full-contact sport for your brain.
Ramona McCandless The McCandless Clan Turing Tested 565	Posted - 2013.07.03 16:30:00 - [96] - Quote De'Veldrin wrote: Mike Azariah wrote: But to clear up one misconception. Some plex out there were NOT paid for by players. Prizes from tourneys, bonuses for recruiting new players leap to mind, Statistically speaking that number is so small it can be considered to be 0. Is it bad ju-ju to say things about the quality of CSM posts? Not in relation to what you said, just asking you " Ramona McCandless, you're my hero." - Domanique Altares, Rifterlings, Point Blank Alliance Tell The Others
Paul Uter School of Applied Knowledge Caldari State 17	Posted - 2013.07.03 16:31:00 - [97] - Quote P3ps1 Max wrote: Doc Fury wrote: P3ps1 Max wrote: Expansions should cost $ They already do, it costs $15/mo. Yea, when majority of the player base is playing for free. But then you have new players with a high turnover ratio paying the bills. To me this would give CCP greater revenue while providing larger content to its players. More content is a win win for everyone. They are not playing for free , just someone else is paying for them
Verunae Caseti Viziam Amarr Empire 51	Posted - 2013.07.03 16:37:00 - [98] - Quote Mike Azariah wrote: But to clear up one misconception. Some plex out there were NOT paid for by players. Prizes from tourneys, bonuses for recruiting new players leap to mind, What percentage of PLEX would you say that represents? 0.05% roughly, give or take a smidge? In other words, completely irrelevant. Especially when you consider that the monetary value of most new players is probably at least 2.5x PLEX so those represent profit, not loss.
Alara IonStorm 5200	Posted - 2013.07.03 16:39:00 - [99] - Quote P3ps1 Max wrote: Yea, when majority of the player base is playing for free.
SmokinDank Horizon Research Group 8	Posted - 2013.07.03 16:40:00 - [100] - Quote Lephia DeGrande wrote: Fifteen Bucks, are the People really that poor or just greedy? That's what I was wondering. There's a trial to see if you like it and the sub price is very low. Why do these shitheels think this needs to change? What's wrong with how it works now? I'm sorry your friends don't make enough mowing lawns or their parents drink too much to afford it but them's the breaks.
Tixam Quri Republic Military School Minmatar Republic 39	Posted - 2013.07.03 16:42:00 - [101] - Quote Lugalbandak wrote: P3ps1 Max wrote: Doc Fury wrote: P3ps1 Max wrote: Expansions should cost $ They already do, it costs $15/mo. Yea, when majority of the player base is playing for free. But then you have new players with a high turnover ratio paying the bills. To me this would give CCP greater revenue while providing larger content to its players. More content is a win win for everyone. PLEX ARNT OF THIN AIR!!!!!!!!!!!!!! SOmbody paid for sombody else so called "free" game time ^^ Exactly OP you need to think about this a bit more. If 550k subscribers are broken into two groups: Group 1: Pays with PLEX they bought on Amazon, another retailer or from the PLEX store. Group 2: Pays with PLEX they bought with ISK. All subs are payed with PLEX! CCP receives revenue from PLEX, and Aurum purchases. That is all. Jafit McJafitson- "try scamming people. it's like PvP, but with words. Their greed is your warp scrambler, your lies are your autocannons."
Ramona McCandless The McCandless Clan Turing Tested 566	Posted - 2013.07.03 16:42:00 - [102] - Quote SmokinDank wrote: Lephia DeGrande wrote: Fifteen Bucks, are the People really that poor or just greedy? That's what I was wondering. There's a trial to see if you like it and the sub price is very low. Why do these shitheels think this needs to change? What's wrong with how it works now? I'm sorry your friends don't make enough mowing lawns or their parents drink too much to afford it but them's the breaks. What are you talking about? " Ramona McCandless, you're my hero." - Domanique Altares, Rifterlings, Point Blank Alliance Tell The Others
Elvis Fett Quantum Cats Syndicate Samurai Pizza Cats 219	Posted - 2013.07.03 16:45:00 - [103] - Quote Frostys Virpio wrote: Ramona McCandless wrote: P3ps1 Max wrote: Bf3 and bf4 for me So... Battlefield after it was totally ruined with DLC That explains a lot What exactly was ruined by the DLC you didn't need to buy? You could also buy them all in a few month of eve subs and then be done and never have to pay a dime over it. How about the community. I payed $60 for a game, and now I need to pay another $60 to have the same maps so I can play with my friends. Splitting communities into those that have map pack A, and those that have map pack B, and those that have A and B and those that have none, prevents people from playing with friends unless they want to fork over more cash. Or how about being bombarded with advertisements? Do I really need to see that the person that killed me was a 'premium' player, and does it need to be in massive writing (no it doesn't since it doesn't need to be there at all.). Also the massive premium advertisements at the main menu are an eye sore. Or how about the quality of the game, because that got ruined by the 'optional' dlc. BF3 had day 0 DLC, they waited a month or two to release Back To Karkland but I guarantee you it was ready or near ready at launch. So instead of having Devs work on the broken VoIP (in console version), or more maps/weapons for the release, they wasted resources creating addition pay content instead of fixing the content that I already paid for.
SmokinDank Horizon Research Group 8	Posted - 2013.07.03 16:48:00 - [104] - Quote Ramona McCandless wrote: SmokinDank wrote: Lephia DeGrande wrote: Fifteen Bucks, are the People really that poor or just greedy? That's what I was wondering. There's a trial to see if you like it and the sub price is very low. Why do these shitheels think this needs to change? What's wrong with how it works now? I'm sorry your friends don't make enough mowing lawns or their parents drink too much to afford it but them's the breaks. What are you talking about? Simply wondering why people think the payment model needs to change. There's options that exist that are more than sufficient.
De'Veldrin Native Freshfood Minmatar Republic 1692	Posted - 2013.07.03 16:50:00 - [105] - Quote Ramona McCandless wrote: De'Veldrin wrote: Mike Azariah wrote: But to clear up one misconception. Some plex out there were NOT paid for by players. Prizes from tourneys, bonuses for recruiting new players leap to mind, Statistically speaking that number is so small it can be considered to be 0. Is it bad ju-ju to say things about the quality of CSM posts? Not in relation to what you said, just asking you Probably, but I have some karma I need to burn off anyway. Eve Online: The full-contact sport for your brain.
Ramona McCandless The McCandless Clan Turing Tested 566	Posted - 2013.07.03 16:52:00 - [106] - Quote SmokinDank wrote: Ramona McCandless wrote: SmokinDank wrote: Lephia DeGrande wrote: Fifteen Bucks, are the People really that poor or just greedy? That's what I was wondering. There's a trial to see if you like it and the sub price is very low. Why do these shitheels think this needs to change? What's wrong with how it works now? I'm sorry your friends don't make enough mowing lawns or their parents drink too much to afford it but them's the breaks. What are you talking about? Simply wondering why people think the payment model needs to change. There's options that exist that are more than sufficient. Oh I see I didn't think that's what the OP meant as such I thought he meant the payment model should be -ú35 + -ú10 month + -ú30 per expansion Which is obviously INSHHHHHHAAANNNNNNEEE " Ramona McCandless, you're my hero." - Domanique Altares, Rifterlings, Point Blank Alliance Tell The Others
Ramona McCandless The McCandless Clan Turing Tested 566	Posted - 2013.07.03 16:52:00 - [107] - Quote De'Veldrin wrote: Probably, but I have some karma I need to burn off anyway. Heh I was just wondering as that CSM rep called us all Brian Cants " Ramona McCandless, you're my hero." - Domanique Altares, Rifterlings, Point Blank Alliance Tell The Others
Contagion Chaotic Dynamics 11	Posted - 2013.07.03 17:00:00 - [108] - Quote Pay via plex if you want f2p. Unless you have no isk then pay. The model works very well. Why change it?
Eugene Kerner TunDraGon Drunk 'n' Disorderly 744	Posted - 2013.07.03 17:00:00 - [109] - Quote P3ps1 Max wrote: Intar Medris wrote: P3ps1 Max wrote: I've seen quite a few posts regarding this F2P nonsense. The best avenue to take for the company 'imo', is to charge for an expansion(s). With 4 expansions each year with a set price at 19.99$ or 1 expansion with 3 content updates during the year A company that comes to mind that is extremely successful with this is Guild Wars 2 (which is a pretty bad ass game) which doesn't charge a cent to play each month. They do however have a **** load of micro-transactions from their market place but those items are not game changing but rather clothing and other cool paraphernalia . To me Eve is setup for success using this business model. Go back to back to WOW. Go back to your cave. Constructive feedback please. one sec... ahh FU that was the word I was looking for "Also, your boobs " -á CCP Eterne, 2012
Tippia Sunshine and Lollipops 15361	Posted - 2013.07.03 17:04:00 - [110] - Quote Since I'm late and the whole GÇ£OP doesn't understand PLEXGÇ¥ part seems played out, I'll just say this: expansions can't cost money because everyone must have access to the same content in a single interconnected and continuous universe. They have to be mandatory for everyone, at which point you might as well roll them up in the cost of the subscriptionGÇª GÇªwhich is what they've done. /thread GÇ£If you're not willing to fight for what you have in GëívGëí you don't deserve it, and you will lose it.GÇ¥ Get a good start: newbie skill plan 2.0.
C DeLeon Pangalactic Punks n' Playboys HUN Reloaded 190	Posted - 2013.07.03 17:09:00 - [111] - Quote The current system worked for 10 years. Let's change it!
Istyn Freight Club Whores in space 219	Posted - 2013.07.03 17:11:00 - [112] - Quote Tippia wrote: Since I'm late and the whole GÇ£OP doesn't understand PLEXGÇ¥ part seems played out, I'll just say this: expansions can't cost money because everyone must have access to the same content in a single interconnected and continuous universe. They have to be mandatory for everyone, at which point you might as well roll them up in the cost of the subscriptionGÇª GÇªwhich is what they've done. /thread Your logic isn't welcome here.
De'Veldrin Native Freshfood Minmatar Republic 1692	Posted - 2013.07.03 17:13:00 - [113] - Quote Tippia wrote: Since I'm late and the whole GÇ£OP doesn't understand PLEXGÇ¥ part seems played out, I'll just say this: expansions can't cost money because everyone must have access to the same content in a single interconnected and continuous universe. They have to be mandatory for everyone, at which point you might as well roll them up in the cost of the subscriptionGÇª GÇªwhich is what they've done. /thread You take your heathen logic and return to your pit demon! Eve Online: The full-contact sport for your brain.
Tippia Sunshine and Lollipops 15363	Posted - 2013.07.03 17:15:00 - [114] - Quote Istyn wrote: Your logic isn't welcome here. De'Veldrin wrote: You take your heathen logic and return to your pit demon! I'm backlogged on my soul collection quota, so I'm going to have to stick around for a bit, I'm afraid. Sorry. GÇ£If you're not willing to fight for what you have in GëívGëí you don't deserve it, and you will lose it.GÇ¥ Get a good start: newbie skill plan 2.0.
Lady Spank GET OUT NASTY FACE 3424	Posted - 2013.07.03 17:17:00 - [115] - Quote OP is so wrong this could only be a dumbass troll thread. (a¦á_a¦â) ~ (my spaceblog) http://getoutnastyface.blogspot.co.uk/~ (a¦á_a¦â)
De'Veldrin Native Freshfood Minmatar Republic 1692	Posted - 2013.07.03 17:24:00 - [116] - Quote Tippia wrote: Istyn wrote: Your logic isn't welcome here. De'Veldrin wrote: You take your heathen logic and return to your pit demon! I'm backlogged on my soul collection quota, so I'm going to have to stick around for a bit, I'm afraid. Sorry. Fine take the OPs and move along. Mine's already consigned. LOL Eve Online: The full-contact sport for your brain.
Domanique Altares Rifterlings Point Blank Alliance 474	Posted - 2013.07.03 17:27:00 - [117] - Quote Ramona McCandless wrote: -Awesomeness- I just today noticed your signature. It makes me all warm and gooey inside. Not as warm and gooey as OP will be after he's dragged kicking and screaming to lowsec and dissolved in a drum of acid, but warm and gooey just the same. Since this thread is obviously about nothing important, I propose we alter it to include human sacrifice and lesbian pod goo catfights. Rifterlings Corporation is now recruiting pilots for faction warfare solo & small gang frigate PvP. Visit our website at www.rifterlings.com or join our in game channel weflyrifters to speak to a recruiter.
Muad 'dib The Imperial Fedaykin Amarrian Commandos 1193	Posted - 2013.07.03 17:51:00 - [118] - Quote EA alt detected! LOLOLOL ......... Cosmic signature detected. . . . http://i.imgur.com/Z7NfIS6.jpg I got 99 likes, and this post aint one.
OldWolf69 IR0N. SpaceMonkey's Alliance 59	Posted - 2013.07.03 17:53:00 - [119] - Quote P3ps1 Max wrote: I've seen quite a few posts regarding this F2P nonsense. The best avenue to take for the company 'imo', is to charge for an expansion(s). With 4 expansions each year with a set price at 19.99$ or 1 expansion with 3 content updates during the year A company that comes to mind that is extremely successful with this is Guild Wars 2 (which is a pretty bad ass game) which doesn't charge a cent to play each month. They do however have a **** load of micro-transactions from their market place but those items are not game changing but rather clothing and other cool paraphernalia . To me Eve is setup for success using this business model. The very next moment people will be forced to pay for this game, it dies. Like all other "dream-bussines" MMO's. Short term hit, money back plus some bucks, and it closes. Besides, why would one pay for a game wich's dream is player and only player made content, and almost all what a expansion brings is to break already broken toys even more?
Ramona McCandless The McCandless Clan Turing Tested 568	Posted - 2013.07.03 17:53:00 - [120] - Quote Domanique Altares wrote: Ramona McCandless wrote: -Awesomeness- I just today noticed your signature. It makes me all warm and gooey inside. Not as warm and gooey as OP will be after he's dragged kicking and screaming to lowsec and dissolved in a drum of acid, but warm and gooey just the same. Since this thread is obviously about nothing important, I propose we alter it to include human sacrifice and lesbian pod goo catfights. Now the rights to watch that will definitely cost $$$$$ " Ramona McCandless, you're my hero." - Domanique Altares, Rifterlings, Point Blank Alliance Tell The Others

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