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thoth foc
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Posted - 2005.12.07 17:48:00 -
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Edited by: thoth foc on 07/12/2005 17:49:59
I think as a mostly non-0.0 entity most alliances are happy to ignore MC until they effect them... after that it isnt a matter of like or dislike.. but standings arent reset just because MC decide their contract is over.. No self respecting 0.0 alliance is afraid of MC.. you kill ppl yes.. all 0.0 alliances kill ppl.. your just another one.. and while you might consider yourself neutral, most (all?) 0.0 alliances shoot neutrals on sight..
--thoth
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Raid
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Posted - 2005.12.07 17:50:00 -
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 Originally by: Crzycnck2
YOUÆRE ALL LAMMERS MMMKAY.
there has to be some muppet out there to stir **** up (hmm who am I thinking of.. oh yeah Mr. Raid)
Another way one should not start an argument. Respect others and they will respect you. Call everyone lamers and you become one yourself.
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Eyeshadow
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Posted - 2005.12.07 18:08:00 -
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Originally by: Ugluuk
So would i have done..
Afraid of the support are we..not good..
Too easy, too easy. Im gonna resist saying what i want to say to you
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Jenny Spitfire
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Posted - 2005.12.07 18:13:00 -
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Casius
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Posted - 2005.12.07 18:14:00 -
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Originally by: Eyeshadow
What i dont have faith in however is jumping a long range BS fleet (that is outnumbered 20 v 28 in the first place)
Sorry but i just cant resist 
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Ilmonstre
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Posted - 2005.12.07 18:14:00 -
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Originally by: Trooper B99
Besides, as was said, we're technially not paid to shoot [5] at this time. 
i was staying out this thread but when i saw this i had to reply.
if you are not payed to shoot us then why do you do it when its convienient for the MC??? as you are mercs and only shoot on people you are payed for to shoot at.
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Seleene
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Posted - 2005.12.07 18:23:00 -
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Edited by: Seleene on 07/12/2005 18:23:56
You know... Eye tried to be factual and very honest about last night. He told his side of things and laid out his reasons. Now he is getting flamed by people who weren't even there, people who didn't like a particular turn of phrase he used and people who just have nothing better to do than say, "OMG, MC are pirates/sploiters/loggers/etc..."
M Corp had thier say. We had ours. This thread was over on the second page. Everything that happened afterwards is just an meaningless tennis match of words that could go on another 10 pages.
"I would have..."
"You should have..."
"Why did you..."
FFS, this crap can be talked about in game, on MSN, IRC, etc... If you really want answers, that's the place to do it. Contact the person you have an issue with and talk to them one on one. Sheesh!
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thoth foc
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Posted - 2005.12.07 18:25:00 -
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Originally by: Seleene
Edited by: Seleene on 07/12/2005 18:23:56
You know... Eye tried to be factual and very honest about last night. He told his side of things and laid out his reasons. Now he is getting flamed by people who weren't even there, people who didn't like a particular turn of phrase he used and people who just have nothing better to do than say, "OMG, MC are pirates/sploiters/loggers/etc..."
M Corp had thier say. We had ours. This thread was over on the second page. Everything that happened afterwards is just an meaningless tennis match of words that could go on another 10 pages.
"I would have..."
"You should have..."
"Why did you..."
FFS, this crap can be talked about in game, on MSN, IRC, etc... If you really want answers, that's the place to do it. Contact the person you have an issue with and talk to them one on one. Sheesh!
i blame trooper tbh
--thoth
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Seleene
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Posted - 2005.12.07 18:30:00 -
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Originally by: thoth foc
i blame trooper tbh
Get back in yer damn kennel, Thoth! 
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Julien Derida
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Posted - 2005.12.07 18:31:00 -
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Originally by: Raid
The second part of your reply already adresses what im trying to get across. Someone COULD disagree, anyone can disagree even if their entirely flawed in their logic. Rule #1 in a sucessful argument is the understanding that you might always be wrong. Saying dont disagree with me totally disregards that hence my objection to its use.
We are not in some kind of highly formalised polite debating club here. Eyeshadow is not obliged to acknowledge the existence of logically flawed and incorrect refutations of his post. Suggesting that he should treat these arguments as any other is asking him to take politeness to a ridiculous extreme.
Honestly, stop objecting for the sake of it. It's pointless
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Lorth
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Posted - 2005.12.07 18:31:00 -
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Originally by: Crzycnck2
I just read this entire thread.. thatÆs ****ing 20 min of my life IÆll never get back.
YOUÆRE ALL LAMMERS MMMKAY.
Why is it with these kinds of threads there is always 5:1 ratio of 5 posting to everyone else. Not too mention it always seems that just when the thread should come to a close (ie an apology was given by glass, thanks glass) there has to be some muppet out there to stir **** up (hmm who am I thinking of.. oh yeah Mr. Raid) oh then thereÆs the other muppets that canÆt seem to let the logging thing go (wont mention it was... ohh yeah a 5 member).
FFS this is pathetic. This thread was dead about 50 posts ago.
Hey. While the orginial post was started wrongly by a 5 member, we did appologize for it, and have moved on to better things. I'm sorry, but I really don't think this comment is all that approperate. We were in the wrong, and said so.
I think both sides in this debate have the utmost respect for eachother. Lets not try and ruin it, by wrongly blaming one side for smacking, or talking about logging. The people carrying on the flamage, arn't wearing a 5 ticker.
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Rogthgar
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Posted - 2005.12.07 18:36:00 -
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Originally by: Eyeshadow
Look Ma, i can post without flaming!
1. Yes we did pass through Curse and HLW/VOL but we werent there for you. After playing with Veritas for an hour or so in and around DSS, they docked without any engagements,
2. You guys are of no interest unless you present yourselves to me in a number im happy to engage.
1. if thats you perception of that night i would like my thron back thank you!
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Casius
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Posted - 2005.12.07 18:39:00 -
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Edited by: Casius on 07/12/2005 18:41:34
Seleene unfortunately the forums are a big part of this game.
ppl are free to voice their opinions and that is how it should be. That is what this forum is here for
You guys are good at what u do every1 knows that, dont take these forums too seriously
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HeadWar
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Posted - 2005.12.07 18:45:00 -
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Originally by: Rogthgar
Originally by: Eyeshadow
Look Ma, i can post without flaming!
1. Yes we did pass through Curse and HLW/VOL but we werent there for you. After playing with Veritas for an hour or so in and around DSS, they docked without any engagements,
2. You guys are of no interest unless you present yourselves to me in a number im happy to engage.
1. if thats you perception of that night i would like my thron back thank you!
2. MC run EVERY time they dont outnumber their target 3 to 1
1. You didn't engage, you got left behind by your friends, and consequently ganked.
2. That is patently not true, you know it, I know it, and I'm pretty sure everyone else knows it too.
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Seleene
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Posted - 2005.12.07 18:46:00 -
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Originally by: Casius
Seleene unfortunately the forums are a big part of this game.
ppl are free to voice their opinions and that is how it should be. That is what this forum is here for
You guys are good at what u do every1 knows that, dont take these forums too seriously
OFC, Casius. It's just that this thing has spiraled a TAD out of control, m8.
Originally by: Rogthgar
2. MC run EVERY time they dont outnumber their target 3 to 1
FRAPS > all forum rhetoric. Show me yours and I'll show you mine. 
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Eyeshadow
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Posted - 2005.12.07 18:50:00 -
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Originally by: Rogthgar
Originally by: Eyeshadow
Look Ma, i can post without flaming!
1. Yes we did pass through Curse and HLW/VOL but we werent there for you. After playing with Veritas for an hour or so in and around DSS, they docked without any engagements,
2. You guys are of no interest unless you present yourselves to me in a number im happy to engage.
1. if thats you perception of that night i would like my thron back thank you!
2. MC run EVERY time they dont outnumber their target 3 to 1
i dont class ganking your mega as an engagement
We could be here all night arguing your point. As headwar says, we have heard it numerous times, from numerous people (including LD and HH II, who, btw, ran 3 times from a close range EVEN engagement) and i aint gonna start talking about it again
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thoth foc
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Posted - 2005.12.07 18:51:00 -
[107]
Originally by: Eyeshadow
and i aint gonna start talking about it again
not even for a cookie?
--thoth
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Seleene
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Posted - 2005.12.07 18:55:00 -
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EVERYONE GO HERE!!
That is much more interesting!! 
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Agent Kenshin
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Posted - 2005.12.07 18:56:00 -
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Originally by: Rogthgar
2. MC run EVERY time they dont outnumber their target 3 to 1
Ok normally i wouldnt have a problem with something like this but last friday night i was with a gang of people who spent 5 hours chasing you guys around GW. When we finally got a fight and you did out number us in every engagement you would warp off. Sure you would fight on a few occasions but as soon as we would show up you would warp off. Towards the end of the night we just go so tired of you running around we left to go get sleep. Call it repositioning or whatever you want but you did warp off numerous times when you had us outnumbered.
Props to those who put up good fights. I salute those of you who i have fought and chased for a while.
Oh and Raid btw clients goals are not always blow up and inflict the most amount of damage possible. You moving to Curse is a prime example of it. Goals != kills.  Oh and why are you still living in the past let curse go.
Originally by: MAXSuicide
only carebears call pvpers 'greifers'
ehehehh....
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Guderian
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Posted - 2005.12.07 19:01:00 -
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Originally by: Crzycnck2
Why is it with these kinds of threads there is always 5:1 ratio of 5 posting to everyone else.
Just counted roughly 27 posts by [5] members. And that was out of a total of 108 posts at the time. So thats a 27:108 ratio, which is just about 1/4, which not even on a good day could be considered to be 5 times as many as everyone else.
Hope you dont count like that when it comes to other issues.
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Blacklight
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Posted - 2005.12.07 19:02:00 -
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Originally by: Seleene
"I would have..."
I was only poking Eyeshadow a bit 
/me slopes off to another thread with head hung low in sorrow and shame
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Jenny Spitfire
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Posted - 2005.12.07 19:05:00 -
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Originally by: Agent Kenshin
Ok normally i wouldnt have a problem with something like this but last friday night i was with a gang of people who spent 5 hours chasing you guys around GW.
Hi Pot... kettle... black?
TBH, I have wasted like hours and days waiting for MC to fight and only time when I see/hear fights are when everybody is either in bed or just fed up with MC's easy ganks and gorilla warfare.
Gorrilla offense are only countered by gorrilla defense.
If this goes up, I wonder which pilots will even bother to "entertain" ppl like you lots. Have to remember, Eve == game and Eve != Killboard statistics.
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Omeega
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Posted - 2005.12.07 19:08:00 -
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Originally by: Guderian
Originally by: Crzycnck2
Why is it with these kinds of threads there is always 5:1 ratio of 5 posting to everyone else.
Just counted roughly 27 posts by [5] members. And that was out of a total of 108 posts at the time. So thats a 27:108 ratio, which is just about 1/4, which not even on a good day could be considered to be 5 times as many as everyone else.
Hope you dont count like that when it comes to other issues.
lol you counted the posts. rofl
Don't speak english. F1,f2,f3...
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Raid
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Posted - 2005.12.07 19:12:00 -
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Originally by: Julien Derida
Honestly, stop objecting for the sake of it. It's pointless
Im not objecting for the sake of is. Its a pet peeve of mine and it bothered me so i replied. People misunderstood me, so i explained.
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Guderian
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Posted - 2005.12.07 19:16:00 -
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Edited by: Guderian on 07/12/2005 19:16:38
Originally by: Omeega
lol you counted the posts. rofl
Yes, that is usually how it works when one is gathering facts, instead of just guessing and postulating and throwing out random, unbased statistics.
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Eyeshadow
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Posted - 2005.12.07 19:21:00 -
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Originally by: Jenny Spitfire
Edited by: Jenny Spitfire on 07/12/2005 19:06:26
Originally by: Agent Kenshin
Ok normally i wouldnt have a problem with something like this but last friday night i was with a gang of people who spent 5 hours chasing you guys around GW.
Hi Pot... kettle... black?
TBH, I have wasted like hours and days waiting for MC to fight and only time when I see/hear fights are when everybody is either in bed or just fed up with MC's easy ganks and gorilla warfare.
Gorrilla offense are only countered by gorrilla defense.
If this goes up, I wonder which pilots will even bother to "entertain" ppl like you lots. Have to remember, Eve == game and Eve != Killboard statistics.
Have a dose of your own medicine!
You need to be careful with your blanket statements
We have had about 15 Fleet engagements with Veritas, where we have actually traded shots at each other. You werent in any of them (atleast i dont remember you being there). Just cos you werent there doesnt mean they didnt happen
This Eve ==!-===!-==bg==1lgl crap means nothing to me. I play the game to have fun and kill lots of stuff. Thats what i do. Thats what we all do. Your so called geurilla (notice spelling) tactics involve hounding you, aswell as engaging your fleets and gangs. We did this on a regular basis (read daily). That is NOT geurilla warfare. Geurilla warfare involves small packs attacking large packs. We did that aswell, but we took you head on aswell so dont come here and try and preach we dont fight fair fights and only fight when we outnumber, cos thats rubbish.
Stop reading into LD's "MC are lame" rubbish that he puts about. It's not as if he can turn round and say "we are a PVP alliance that has lost nearly 16bil in ship insurance in 6 weeks to another PVP alliance". No ones ever going to say that. But atleast look at it from a realistic POV. We have engaged you, you have engaged us. We have won some fights, you have won some fights. Fun has been had, by us atleast, on some occasions
I have (though its quickly evaporating) respect for Veritas. You guys come out and fight often, and thats a first for us, most people ignore us and leave us ganks (and then complain about it). Please dont tarnish our respect for you. LD + HH II have already done a good job of it by proclaiming how lame we are and stuff. TBH, we get it on just about every contract we have.
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Jenny Spitfire
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Posted - 2005.12.07 19:22:00 -
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Edited by: Jenny Spitfire on 07/12/2005 19:23:51
Originally by: Eyeshadow
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Monkey business gets monkey business was what I was trying to say and thanks, I do know guerilla warfare and how it is spelt.
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Equinox II
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Posted - 2005.12.07 19:27:00 -
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Originally by: Eyeshadow
... Your so called geurilla (notice spelling) tactics involve hounding you, aswell as engaging your fleets and gangs. We did this on a regular basis (read daily). That is NOT geurilla warfare. Geurilla warfare involves small packs attacking large packs...
Guerilla (notice spelling).. :)
Sorry, just had to :p
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Eyeshadow
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Posted - 2005.12.07 19:28:00 -
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Edited by: Eyeshadow on 07/12/2005 19:28:32
Originally by: Jenny Spitfire
Edited by: Jenny Spitfire on 07/12/2005 19:27:25
Originally by: Eyeshadow
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Monkey business gets monkey business was what I was trying to say and thanks, I do know guerilla warfare and how it is spelt.
Also, everything is from my own experience and my own personal comments. Neither -V- nor LD has said anything. Basically, I am just bored with MC tactics and I have already given up on entertaining you people.
Bored with our tactics? what are our tactics that you are bored with? I have heard this said numerous times by V members but im still intrigued as to what it is you find boring?
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Light Darkness
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Posted - 2005.12.07 19:33:00 -
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Originally by: Eyeshadow
Edited by: Eyeshadow on 07/12/2005 19:28:32
Originally by: Jenny Spitfire
Edited by: Jenny Spitfire on 07/12/2005 19:27:25
Originally by: Eyeshadow
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Monkey business gets monkey business was what I was trying to say and thanks, I do know guerilla warfare and how it is spelt.
Also, everything is from my own experience and my own personal comments. Neither -V- nor LD has said anything. Basically, I am just bored with MC tactics and I have already given up on entertaining you people.
Bored with our tactics? what are our tactics that you are bored with? I have heard this said numerous times by V members but im still intrigued as to what it is you find boring?
Sry Eyeshadow.
But thats lame. You got respect but this flamefest isnt positive.
You got nice ganks and V. But most time it was a SS spotting from MC and V cause you dont fight our fights.
We tryed it some times and you also. So keep it respectfully here.
So please all -V- members dont answere here or keep it with respect to our enemys.
CU on the BF.
Regards
/LD
*-V-President* *-V-Fleet Command*
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