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Eyeshadow
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Posted - 2005.12.07 10:02:00 -
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Look Ma, i can post without flaming!
Last night, we didnt go to Curse to engage M. Corp or any of The Five guys. Contrary to your belief, the EVE universe does not revolve around you.
We were in fact hot on the heels of a Veritas fleet which was travelling to DSS-EZ in Stain, as part of their helping ASCN deal. They did the same Monday night but we couldnt organise anything in time to go after them. Tonite, we got there just in time.
Yes we did pass through Curse and HLW/VOL but we werent there for you. After playing with Veritas for an hour or so in and around DSS, they docked without any engagements, and it was getting late so i turned us around to take us home. On the way back our scout bumped into you guys in HLW. After getting the numbers, you had 8 BS and about 20 support. We had about 15 BS and 4-5 support.
Basically, engaging that much support when jumping in with long range fleet setup BS did not interest me very much, so i turned us around and we went to Agil to dock and log for the night
Please explain to me where we logged ONCE, let alone twice, as Glassback of M. Corp claims? We were not interested in suiciding into your fleet that was support heavy with our Range heavy BS fleet. Call me cautious if you want, i know i am, but dont try and paint it like we logged off due to your uberness. We didnt log off until we got to Agil (we lost one or two on the way that couldnt stay on any longer)
I was FC for all of last night. My fleet was active from 19:30 -> 23:30 EVE Time where we logged in Agil. Please explain to me where + when we logged? Oh and please stop thinking you are the centre of the universe. We are contracted to shoot Veritas, that is my primary concern. You guys are of no interest unless you present yourselves to me in a number im happy to engage. Oh and dont disagree with me, what i wrote here is fact
I dont know why i feel the need to justify my and the rest of the MC's actions to people, but i find you calling us loggers offensive
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Hoozin
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Posted - 2005.12.07 10:12:00 -
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 Originally by: Eyeshadow
Look Ma, i can post without flaming!
We're very proud of you  !
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Alex Krause
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Posted - 2005.12.07 10:14:00 -
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I feel sorry for anyone who hires you to fight in 0.0. Stick to ganking nubs in emire, k?
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Farjung
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Posted - 2005.12.07 10:16:00 -
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Could someone point out the post this is in reply to? I'm blind and can't see it :(
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Eyeshadow
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Posted - 2005.12.07 10:17:00 -
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Originally by: Alex Krause
I'm an alt and everything i say is meaningless
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VxTd 12t
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Posted - 2005.12.07 10:17:00 -
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I seen there fleet and they had a lot (6+) EW ships and 4 bubbles on the gate.
It was a lovley camp and you would not have lasted lond had you jumped in, so I think you did the respectfull thing and not commit suicide.
Let's face it. MC don't have anything to prove.
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Eyeshadow
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Posted - 2005.12.07 10:18:00 -
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Originally by: Farjung
Could someone point out the post this is in reply to? I'm blind and can't see it :(
Just for you mate  Clicky
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Farjung
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Posted - 2005.12.07 10:21:00 -
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Originally by: Eyeshadow
Originally by: Farjung
Could someone point out the post this is in reply to? I'm blind and can't see it :(
Just for you mate Clicky
Ta, I still can't see it on the thread index so either I'm *****ing up or the forums are being odd ¼_¼.
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Glassback
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Posted - 2005.12.07 10:22:00 -
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Originally by: Eyeshadow
Look Ma, i can post without flaming!
Last night, we didnt go to Curse to engage M. Corp or any of The Five guys. Contrary to your belief, the EVE universe does not revolve around you.
We were in fact hot on the heels of a Veritas fleet which was travelling to DSS-EZ in Stain, as part of their helping ASCN deal. They did the same Monday night but we couldnt organise anything in time to go after them. Tonite, we got there just in time.
Yes we did pass through Curse and HLW/VOL but we werent there for you. After playing with Veritas for an hour or so in and around DSS, they docked without any engagements, and it was getting late so i turned us around to take us home. On the way back our scout bumped into you guys in HLW. After getting the numbers, you had 8 BS and about 20 support. We had about 15 BS and 4-5 support.
Basically, engaging that much support when jumping in with long range fleet setup BS did not interest me very much, so i turned us around and we went to Agil to dock and log for the night
Please explain to me where we logged ONCE, let alone twice, as Glassback of M. Corp claims? We were not interested in suiciding into your fleet that was support heavy with our Range heavy BS fleet. Call me cautious if you want, i know i am, but dont try and paint it like we logged off due to your uberness. We didnt log off until we got to Agil (we lost one or two on the way that couldnt stay on any longer)
I was FC for all of last night. My fleet was active from 19:30 -> 23:30 EVE Time where we logged in Agil. Please explain to me where + when we logged? Oh and please stop thinking you are the centre of the universe. We are contracted to shoot Veritas, that is my primary concern. You guys are of no interest unless you present yourselves to me in a number im happy to engage. Oh and dont disagree with me, what i wrote here is fact
I dont know why i feel the need to justify my and the rest of the MC's actions to people, but i find you calling us loggers offensive
Well, it's nothing to do with thinking i'm uber, I was there and got spanked in New Caldari.
The fleet received info that you logged from our forward scouts, so one of us is wrong. I've nothing against chosing not to engage, only the method of avoidance.
If you did log, boo to you. If you did'nt and our intel was wrong, boo to me.
Regards
G.
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Blacklight
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Posted - 2005.12.07 10:23:00 -
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With those numbers I'd have jumped in and BBQ'd the crap out of them, Eyeshadow you are getting timid in your old age 
Eve Blacklight Style
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Farjung
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Posted - 2005.12.07 10:24:00 -
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Afraid your intel was wrong Glassback, I accompanied them all the way back to Agil. Surely you would have seen the bottom right of your screen light up? o_O
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Treebeard dk
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Posted - 2005.12.07 10:25:00 -
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The forum is not the time or place to launch personal attacks on anyone, not only is it lame but it also makes me loose respect for a great bunch of guys and a worthy enemy. If you have any issues with and M.corp members, please contact me or Velios directly and we will deal with it, posting this crap here will lead to nothing good but a loss of respect for your alliance.
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thoth foc
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Posted - 2005.12.07 10:29:00 -
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Eyeshadow gets easily upset
--thoth
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Seleene
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Posted - 2005.12.07 10:30:00 -
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G, you making a post on EVE-O about this was unnecessary. Period. However, since you did, I support Eye's right to give a public reply.
You've been cordial enough in the past and had you simple opened a convo with someone in the MC asking, "Hey, where you guys going?" all of your questions could have been answered in a much less tree-shaking fashion.
From what I've heard, Eye was 100% correct not to jump in on you. We might have jumped in and even won the fight, but his crew had already gone 50+ jumps chasing after V for little result and, as was stated, we're not being paid to voluntarily risk losing ships to you right now.
BTW, it was already after midnight for a lot of people who had to go to work the next day. Lucky for me, my DSL crapped out and I missed all of the 'action'. 
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Jasam mama
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Posted - 2005.12.07 10:32:00 -
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Edited by: Jasam mama on 07/12/2005 10:34:07
Originally by: Treebeard dk
The forum is not the time or place to launch personal attacks on anyone, not only is it lame but it also makes me loose respect for a great bunch of guys and a worthy enemy. If you have any issues with and M.corp members, please contact me or Velios directly and we will deal with it, posting this crap here will lead to nothing good but a loss of respect for your alliance.
Erm...wasnt your corp thread posted before this one??
Ups, wrong character
Originally by: Eyeshadow
Just for you mate Clicky
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Seleene
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Posted - 2005.12.07 10:34:00 -
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Edited by: Seleene on 07/12/2005 10:34:51
Originally by: Blacklight
With those numbers I'd have jumped in and BBQ'd the crap out of them, Eyeshadow you are getting timid in your old age
Well, sometimes they get tired of me saying, "Let's do this!" Leeeroy-style in TS, BL. Boldyn even told me to stop acting like a trigger-happy muppet this weekend.  
Originally by: Treebeard dk
The forum is not the time or place to launch personal attacks on anyone, not only is it lame but it also makes me loose respect for a great bunch of guys and a worthy enemy. If you have any issues with and M.corp members, please contact me or Velios directly and we will deal with it, posting this crap here will lead to nothing good but a loss of respect for your alliance.
Agreed, Tree. We respect M Corp and wish for that to remain mutual. However, TBH your man started it and we have a right to respond. Not flame, but respond.
Originally by: thoth foc
Eyeshadow gets easily upset
You want his MSN? 
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Omeega
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Posted - 2005.12.07 10:44:00 -
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Edited by: Omeega on 07/12/2005 10:44:22
Glassback will always say you log off.
Bad boy glass, bad boy.
Don't speak english. F1,f2,f3...
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Eyeshadow
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Posted - 2005.12.07 10:45:00 -
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Edited by: Eyeshadow on 07/12/2005 10:45:43
Originally by: Treebeard dk
The forum is not the time or place to launch personal attacks on anyone, not only is it lame but it also makes me loose respect for a great bunch of guys and a worthy enemy. If you have any issues with and M.corp members, please contact me or Velios directly and we will deal with it, posting this crap here will lead to nothing good but a loss of respect for your alliance.
Quite true my friend. However, since it was your member (Glassback) who came here first and "smack talked" my alliance and my fleet last night, so i felt the need to set the record straight. I respect M. Corp, more than the other Five corps, and have no desire to get into a slagging match with you. I did however, feel the need to post what actually did happen
And yes Glassback, your scout was completely wrong. The first time we passed through HLW we did it extremely quickly due to the fact that the Veritas fleet was already 4-5 jumps ahead of us and we needed to catch up. Maybe next time we will stop to have tea and biscuits with you . On our way back i didnt like the look of your fleet so we went to Agil and logged there.
Im not a fan of logging fleets in hostile territory. As most of 0.0 is hostile to us most of the time i chose not to log us in 0.0, but instead head to Empire if i can
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Glassback
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Posted - 2005.12.07 10:45:00 -
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My original post was made in haste and a case of "fingers before brain", along with the frustration of fighting RA who DO employ these tactics.
I apologise.
Now, can we put an end to this and agree that loggin is bad m'kay?
Regards
G.
I've got an idea--an idea so smart that my head would explode if I even began to know what I'm talking about
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Jasam mama
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Posted - 2005.12.07 10:46:00 -
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Originally by: Omeega
Edited by: Omeega on 07/12/2005 10:44:22
Glassback will always say you log off.
Bad boy glass, bad boy.
I see you didnt repair your toilet yet
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Skape Gote
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Posted - 2005.12.07 10:49:00 -
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Originally by: Eyeshadow
Edited by: Eyeshadow on 07/12/2005 10:45:43
Originally by: Treebeard dk
The forum is not the time or place to launch personal attacks on anyone, not only is it lame but it also makes me loose respect for a great bunch of guys and a worthy enemy. If you have any issues with and M.corp members, please contact me or Velios directly and we will deal with it, posting this crap here will lead to nothing good but a loss of respect for your alliance.
Quite true my friend. However, since it was your member (Glassback) who came here first and "smack talked" my alliance and my fleet last night, so i felt the need to set the record straight. I respect M. Corp, more than the other Five corps, and have no desire to get into a slagging match with you. I did however, feel the need to post what actually did happen
And yes Glassback, your scout was completely wrong. The first time we passed through HLW we did it extremely quickly due to the fact that the Veritas fleet was already 4-5 jumps ahead of us and we needed to catch up. Maybe next time we will stop to have tea and biscuits with you . On our way back i didnt like the look of your fleet so we went to Agil and logged there.
Im not a fan of logging fleets in hostile territory. As most of 0.0 is hostile to us most of the time i chose not to log us in 0.0, but instead head to Empire if i can
So just to clarify you are saying at no time did you log in VOL even maybe 5 minutes to take a dump and get a drink maybe? You ran away back to empire instead?
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rig0r
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Posted - 2005.12.07 10:52:00 -
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Originally by: Blacklight
With those numbers I'd have jumped in and BBQ'd the crap out of them, Eyeshadow you are getting timid in your old age
Yes, but you are BoB. You fear no-one. You own this game and everyone in it. I worship thee _o_.
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Seleene
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Posted - 2005.12.07 10:53:00 -
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Originally by: Skape Gote
So just to clarify you are saying at no time did you log in VOL even maybe 5 minutes to take a dump and get a drink maybe? You ran away back to empire instead?
STOP!
Enough of this nonsense. Seriously. Maybe someone lost thier connection for five minutes? Maybe someone lost it for two hours (like I did). Hence, I logged in fear / cowardice / oh look ice cream!!! before I even got down to Curse? Come on, guys!
There is no point in nit-picking anymore. The original poster has had his say as has our man on the scene last night. Anything else can be conducted in game and away from these forums. Agreed?
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Omeega
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Posted - 2005.12.07 10:54:00 -
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Originally by: Glassback
My original post was made in haste and a case of "fingers before brain", along with the frustration of fighting RA who DO employ these tactics.
I apologise.
Now, can we put an end to this and agree that loggin is bad m'kay?
Regards
G.
oye.
/me stays up until 4am to get a bs killmail. meeeeeeep wrong. Same player, insert a coin try again.
Don't speak english. F1,f2,f3...
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Eyeshadow
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Posted - 2005.12.07 10:57:00 -
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Originally by: Skape Gote
So just to clarify you are saying at no time did you log in VOL even maybe 5 minutes to take a dump and get a drink maybe? You ran away back to empire instead?
Nope, cos if we had, we would have lost the Veritas fleet on the way south, and on the way home i wanted to get away from your 20 support as fast as i could
As i said, my fleet was active from 19:30 through to 23:30 where we logged in Agil. One or two people in the fleet may have dropped off on the way home and stuff but the fleet as a whole never once logged until we got to Agil
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Skape Gote
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Posted - 2005.12.07 10:57:00 -
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Originally by: Seleene
Originally by: Skape Gote
So just to clarify you are saying at no time did you log in VOL even maybe 5 minutes to take a dump and get a drink maybe? You ran away back to empire instead?
STOP!
Enough of this nonsense. Seriously. Maybe someone lost thier connection for five minutes? Maybe someone lost it for two hours (like I did). Hence, I logged in fear / cowardice / oh look ice cream!!! before I even got down to Curse? Come on, guys!
There is no point in nit-picking anymore. The original poster has had his say as has our man on the scene last night. Anything else can be conducted in game and away from these forums. Agreed?
I just wanted to clarify exactly what happened, there is logging off for the night and there is logging for a few mins cos you are in a sticky situation a bit like the PA guys did that were in KLMT the other night when they were outnumbered.
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thoth foc
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Posted - 2005.12.07 11:08:00 -
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Originally by: Seleene
Originally by: thoth foc
Eyeshadow gets easily upset
You want his MSN?
only if he promises to whisper sweet nothings in my ear
in all seriousness though Eyeshadow has made enuff comments previously about [5] that some will see as smack.. he cant really cry when ppl make observation that he decides as smack.. what goes around comes around etc etc..
--thoth
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Xeethra
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Posted - 2005.12.07 11:12:00 -
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the [5] do infact think they are all of eve's number one spotlight
*we are uber*
Needless to say you are not, you are simply one alliance among many
Lets clear sum intel shall we?
The only [5] in PA space is ATUK with a few shinra/mcorp thrown in
The rest are in sydicate, a few stargglers in empire, and a few in curse
DO NOT make the mistake of thinking living in 0.0 is uber and makes u uber cool because it does not, an idiot could live in 0.0
I dont think it's ur fault, egotistical leaders make u like it
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Blacklight
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Posted - 2005.12.07 11:13:00 -
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Originally by: rig0r
Originally by: Blacklight
With those numbers I'd have jumped in and BBQ'd the crap out of them, Eyeshadow you are getting timid in your old age
Yes, but you are BoB. You fear no-one. You own this game and everyone in it. I worship thee _o_.
....and given your response you should obviously keep your nose out of a bit of banter directed at Eyeshadow and not you either that or get your humour bypass removed.
Eve Blacklight Style
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Malken
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Posted - 2005.12.07 11:13:00 -
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Eyes and Seleene, ive been down there a few times and if you dont gate out of the gate they are camping then they say you logged.
simple as that, its standard smacktalk procedure for the 5.
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Darcuese
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Posted - 2005.12.07 11:18:00 -
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Originally by: Xeethra
DO NOT make the mistake of thinking living in 0.0 is uber and makes u uber cool because it does not, an idiot could live in 0.0
No, you could not
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Seleene
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Posted - 2005.12.07 11:18:00 -
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BL, he might have actually been serious... or drunk.
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Eyeshadow
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Posted - 2005.12.07 11:19:00 -
[33]
Originally by: Blacklight
Originally by: rig0r
Originally by: Blacklight
With those numbers I'd have jumped in and BBQ'd the crap out of them, Eyeshadow you are getting timid in your old age
Yes, but you are BoB. You fear no-one. You own this game and everyone in it. I worship thee _o_.
....and given your response you should obviously keep your nose out of a bit of banter directed at Eyeshadow and not you either that or get your humour bypass removed.
Easy tiger
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Guderian
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Posted - 2005.12.07 11:19:00 -
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"humour bypass"
/me *giggles*
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Glassback
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Posted - 2005.12.07 11:30:00 -
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Originally by: Jasam mama
Originally by: Omeega
Edited by: Omeega on 07/12/2005 10:44:22
Glassback will always say you log off.
Bad boy glass, bad boy.
I see you didnt repair your toilet yet
Eh?
G.
I've got an idea--an idea so smart that my head would explode if I even began to know what I'm talking about
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Hast
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Posted - 2005.12.07 11:32:00 -
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Originally by: Malken
Eyes and Seleene, ive been down there a few times and if you dont gate out of the gate they are camping then they say you logged.
simple as that, its standard smacktalk procedure for the 5.
look ma, a fanboy!
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Uggs386
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Posted - 2005.12.07 11:35:00 -
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Originally by: Hast
Originally by: Malken
Eyes and Seleene, ive been down there a few times and if you dont gate out of the gate they are camping then they say you logged.
simple as that, its standard smacktalk procedure for the 5.
look ma, a fanboy!
Look ma a hast.
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Seleene
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Posted - 2005.12.07 11:36:00 -
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Hast has no corp ticker or anything.
Hast = n00b alt spy.
Ban him.
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Malken
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Posted - 2005.12.07 11:37:00 -
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Originally by: Hast
Originally by: Malken
Eyes and Seleene, ive been down there a few times and if you dont gate out of the gate they are camping then they say you logged.
simple as that, its standard smacktalk procedure for the 5.
look ma, a fanboy!
better then being a buttyboy
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Darcuese
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Posted - 2005.12.07 11:39:00 -
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Originally by: Malken
better then being a *****boy
*****=super?
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Eyeshadow
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Posted - 2005.12.07 11:45:00 -
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Originally by: Glassback
My original post was made in haste and a case of "fingers before brain", along with the frustration of fighting RA who DO employ these tactics.
I apologise.
Now, can we put an end to this and agree that loggin is bad m'kay?
Regards
G.
Thank you. Hopefully in the future you can just shout me in game and ask me directly what is going on? Im not afraid of talking with enemies before/after/during fleety stuff. In fact i quite enjoy it
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Treebeard dk
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Posted - 2005.12.07 11:58:00 -
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You must also accept my apologies as I was directed to this thread and without having the proper time to check all other thread in the forum I wrote my post to stop this nonsence before it got out of hand, so if my guy started this, he's get some loving from me on TS tonight
Anyhow, people from M.corp should know better than posting crap like this, Glass, get back in line 
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Glassback
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Posted - 2005.12.07 12:08:00 -
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Originally by: Treebeard dk
You must also accept my apologies as I was directed to this thread and without having the proper time to check all other thread in the forum I wrote my post to stop this nonsence before it got out of hand, so if my guy started this, he's get some loving from me on TS tonight
Anyhow, people from M.corp should know better than posting crap like this, Glass, get back in line
Yup.
I've got an idea--an idea so smart that my head would explode if I even began to know what I'm talking about
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Malken
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Posted - 2005.12.07 12:09:00 -
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Originally by: Darcuese
Originally by: Malken
better then being a *****boy
*****=super?
nope
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Velios
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Posted - 2005.12.07 12:11:00 -
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Yeah we try to avoide forum spats like this, but here we are. In a way I am glad that you didn't stop by HLW that night personally because we need all the ships we can get right now for more meaningful causes than fighting for it's own sake against MC.
Also, while I find it easy to ask the ikkle kids in M.Corp not to post inflamatory posts, I always feel awkward about reminding fully grown estate agents from surrey to resist the urge to point the deadly forum finger of doom :) |
Darcuese
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Posted - 2005.12.07 12:13:00 -
[46]
Edited by: Darcuese on 07/12/2005 12:13:34
Originally by: Malken
Originally by: Darcuese
Originally by: Malken
better then being a *****boy
*****=super?
nope
what, what ,what???
pleaty please
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Glassback
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Posted - 2005.12.07 12:13:00 -
[47]
Originally by: Velios
Yeah we try to avoide forum spats like this, but here we are. In a way I am glad that you didn't stop by HLW that night personally because we need all the ships we can get right now for more meaningful causes than fighting for it's own sake against MC.
Also, while I find it easy to ask the ikkle kids in M.Corp not to post inflamatory posts, I always feel awkward about reminding fully grown estate agents from surrey to resist the urge to point the deadly forum finger of doom :)
I think letting everyone know I'm an Estate Agent is punishment enough.
I've got an idea--an idea so smart that my head would explode if I even began to know what I'm talking about
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KIAEddZ
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Posted - 2005.12.07 12:13:00 -
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Next time Eye, just fkin BBQ them.
Job done.
CEO of KIA Corp - Been doing it for the Laydeez since 1993, now we is doing it in space.
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Eyeshadow
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Posted - 2005.12.07 12:19:00 -
[49]
Your an estate agent? Explains it then. You guys are always trying to sell crap to other people
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Seleene
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Posted - 2005.12.07 12:21:00 -
[50]
Originally by: Eyeshadow
Your an estate agent? Explains it then. You guys are always trying to sell crap to other people
I think I bought my first BS BPC from M. Corp like two years ago...
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Glassback
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Posted - 2005.12.07 12:23:00 -
[51]
Originally by: Eyeshadow
Your an estate agent? Explains it then. You guys are always trying to sell crap to other people
I'm good at it too.
I've got an idea--an idea so smart that my head would explode if I even began to know what I'm talking about
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Darcuese
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Posted - 2005.12.07 12:26:00 -
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Originally by: Glassback
Originally by: Eyeshadow
Your an estate agent? Explains it then. You guys are always trying to sell crap to other people
I'm good at it too.
Hmm, I think im closer and closer to the truth then when I think that M stand for merchandise (grammar), hehe
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juduzz
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Posted - 2005.12.07 13:04:00 -
[53]
Originally by: Glassback
I think letting everyone know I'm an Estate Agent is punishment enough.
With that statement you have just prooved that the north are fighting the good course!
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rig0r
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Posted - 2005.12.07 13:28:00 -
[54]
Originally by: Blacklight
Originally by: rig0r
Originally by: Blacklight
With those numbers I'd have jumped in and BBQ'd the crap out of them, Eyeshadow you are getting timid in your old age
Yes, but you are BoB. You fear no-one. You own this game and everyone in it. I worship thee _o_.
....and given your response you should obviously keep your nose out of a bit of banter directed at Eyeshadow and not you either that or get your humour bypass removed.
Ofcourse master. How rude of me to reply in an MC thread. To punish myself I will create booze signatures all night long.
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Posted - 2005.12.07 13:54:00 -
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Originally by: Alex Krause
I feel sorry for anyone who hires you to fight in 0.0. Stick to ganking nubs in emire, k?
Hi -V- leadership person :)
You know I think you are right. MC are not what they used to be. During this contract there have only been kills on nubs as you place it...868 of them actually. 6 of them being meestah LD. So yeah, that's a whole lot of nubs killed.
THINK before you post for once in your life...
PS. This is my opinion and if you have a problem with it then I think I don't care to much
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Cabadrin
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Posted - 2005.12.07 14:29:00 -
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FFS!
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Intak Atak
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Posted - 2005.12.07 14:34:00 -
[57]
Originally by: thoth foc
Eyeshadow gets easily upset
with a name like eyeshadow so would I
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Sovereign1100
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Posted - 2005.12.07 14:43:00 -
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Why does anyone care about anything anyone else does in combat? They either fight or they don't. Flaming/smack/name calling is just the inappropriate release of exasperation when your camp fails to draw in the enemy. Get over it.
Can you imagine what this game would be like if no one said anything on the forums, and all communication was done in game with guns? The PvP people with the most respect, never put anything on the forums to defend or gloat their actions. Take lesson, cuz today, no one cares about your battles of last week. People have short memories.
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Heinky
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Posted - 2005.12.07 14:59:00 -
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humm.... I thought ra took over curse and .5. took over venal
Forums 4tw
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Raid
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Posted - 2005.12.07 15:02:00 -
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Originally by: Eyeshadow
Look Ma, i can post without flaming!
No you cant.. read lower...
Originally by: Eyeshadow
......... the EVE universe does not revolve around you.
Flame...
Originally by: Eyeshadow
Yes we did pass through Curse and HLW/VOL but we werent there for you.
If you enter someone elses claimed space expect to get shot... if you leave expect to get smack talked.
Originally by: Eyeshadow
Please explain to me where we logged ONCE, let alone twice,........(we lost one or two on the way that couldnt stay on any longer)
Purhapse you answered your own question.
Originally by: Eyeshadow
......Oh and dont disagree with me, what i wrote here is fact
refer to your own centre of the universe remarks and apply them here. People can and will disagree with you whenever they want. If theres one flaw in anything you have written then what you have written is not a fact. Purhapse it is best not to claim your right and their wrong while expecting a reply.
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Posted - 2005.12.07 15:17:00 -
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Originally by: Boldyn
Originally by: Alex Krause
I feel sorry for anyone who hires you to fight in 0.0. Stick to ganking nubs in emire, k?
Hi -V- leadership person :)
You dont know V leadership that well do you? If they wanted to say something to you they would say it. No need for forum alts.
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Ithildin
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Posted - 2005.12.07 15:24:00 -
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Eyeshadow, do you think the same as me? It's about time to mail the mods and have this thred locked, sadly.
* We logged 'cause we needed sleep
* People need to think before posting and maybe keep a few of the posts limited to internal forums instead of aggravating people here.
These are the two truths in this thred.
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Boldyn
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Posted - 2005.12.07 15:25:00 -
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Originally by: Raid
Originally by: Boldyn
Originally by: Alex Krause
I feel sorry for anyone who hires you to fight in 0.0. Stick to ganking nubs in emire, k?
Hi -V- leadership person :)
You dont know V leadership that well do you? If they wanted to say something to you they would say it. No need for forum alts.
Ah..I was hoping someone would say these things
1. The leadership thing was ment as a joke. I don't know them well at all, neither do I care who zie altboi is.
2. I don't care what they say to us. They say what they think about us to so many other people. That's usually the way it is...
THINK....
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Eyeshadow
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Posted - 2005.12.07 15:30:00 -
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Edited by: Eyeshadow on 07/12/2005 15:31:43
Originally by: Raid
Flame...
Not really, just a statement
Originally by: Raid
Originally by: Eyeshadow
Yes we did pass through Curse and HLW/VOL but we werent there for you.
If you enter someone elses claimed space expect to get shot... if you leave expect to get smack talked.
I dont mind getting shot in hostile space. I never said otherwise. I never expect to get smack talked however.
Originally by: Raid
Originally by: Eyeshadow
Please explain to me where we logged ONCE, let alone twice,........(we lost one or two on the way that couldnt stay on any longer)
Purhapse you answered your own question.
In what way? In the course of the night we lost about 4 people max. If thats considered logging a fleet of 22 or so ships off then someone has a strange definition of logging.
Originally by: Raid
Originally by: Eyeshadow
......Oh and dont disagree with me, what i wrote here is fact
refer to your own centre of the universe remarks and apply them here. People can and will disagree with you whenever they want. If theres one flaw in anything you have written then what you have written is not a fact. Purhapse it is best not to claim your right and their wrong while expecting a reply.
I was FC. I know exactly what happened and what decisions were made cos i made them. What i wrote here is exactly what happened, and that is a fact. I can tell people not to disagree with me cos i what i wrote is the truth, and has been accepted by M. Corp. Why you are even questioning me i dont know
Btw, any chance you Tyrell guys are gonna fight with your alliance or are you just going to continue camping Doril? Or are you so scared after the battering we gave you in empire as we havent seen you since. Now THAT is a flame
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Posted - 2005.12.07 15:41:00 -
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Edited by: Trooper B99 on 07/12/2005 15:46:07
Heavens sake.
This misunderstanding by the M.Corp member was dealt with an apologised for. Raid, next time please read the whole thread before putting your size 15's in and trying to stir stuff up. Situation has been dealt with to both parties satisfaction.
Wirykomi Team Racer - COLOSSUS Championships Year 106
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KIAEddZ
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Posted - 2005.12.07 15:47:00 -
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This thread is making Baby Jesus cry..............
CEO of KIA Corp - Been doing it for the Laydeez since 1993, now we is doing it in space.
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Raid
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Posted - 2005.12.07 15:51:00 -
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Originally by: Eyeshadow
I was FC. I know exactly what happened and what decisions were made cos i made them. What i wrote here is exactly what happened, and that is a fact. I can tell people not to disagree with me cos i what i wrote is the truth, and has been accepted by M. Corp. Why you are even questioning me i dont know
Saying no one should disagree or refute what your saying is rather egotistical and frankly a bit insulting. Thats defietly not your intention but thats how its coming off.
Originally by: Eyeshadow
Btw, any chance you Tyrell guys are gonna fight with your alliance or are you just going to continue camping Doril? Or are you so scared after the battering we gave you in empire as we havent seen you since. Now THAT is a flame
We live in Curse.. if your confused as to why.. ask Alynthir or seleene or whatever he calls himself now.
We joined V for the empire wars.. we stay in V to help friends when they need it and for better communication. They dont need too much help right now.. despite the killing thats going on its not of any significant nature. Curse needs a good cleaning however since we left many rats have spread we're just the exterminators. We'd like to clean our home before we come give your employer his money's worth.
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Posted - 2005.12.07 15:56:00 -
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Originally by: Trooper B99
Edited by: Trooper B99 on 07/12/2005 15:46:07
Heavens sake.
This misunderstanding by the M.Corp member was dealt with an apologised for. Raid, next time please read the whole thread before putting your size 15's in and trying to stir stuff up. Situation has been dealt with to both parties satisfaction.
I was reply to the tone of the post thats all. I dont want to stir anything up with the M.Corp situation. I was a bit offended by the part that said "dont disagree with me"... I studied argumentation theory in university and stuff like that tends to bother me... thats all i have no intention of siring up the thread just stimulating a debate about what not to say when your trying to make a point.
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Posted - 2005.12.07 15:58:00 -
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Originally by: Raid
We joined V for the empire wars.. we stay in V to help friends when they need it and for better communication. They dont need too much help right now.. despite the killing thats going on its not of any significant nature.
I could proclaim otherwise but im not gonna drag this thread through a "we pwn more than j00" etc etc tennis match. Suffice it to say, we have a fight nearly every night in GW. Much fun is usually had.
Originally by: Raid
Curse needs a good cleaning however since we left many rats have spread we're just the exterminators. We'd like to clean our home before we come give your employer his money's worth.
*shakes in his boots*
Big words, but you best make it snappy cos we wont be here forever
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Boldyn
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Posted - 2005.12.07 16:01:00 -
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Originally by: Raid
I studied argumentation theory in university
...how's that working out for you?
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Traxio Nacho
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Posted - 2005.12.07 16:02:00 -
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Originally by: Raid
Originally by: Trooper B99
Edited by: Trooper B99 on 07/12/2005 15:46:07
Heavens sake.
This misunderstanding by the M.Corp member was dealt with an apologised for. Raid, next time please read the whole thread before putting your size 15's in and trying to stir stuff up. Situation has been dealt with to both parties satisfaction.
I was reply to the tone of the post thats all. I dont want to stir anything up with the M.Corp situation. I was a bit offended by the part that said "dont disagree with me"... I studied argumentation theory in university and stuff like that tends to bother me... thats all i have no intention of siring up the thread just stimulating a debate about what not to say when your trying to make a point.
No offence but you did stir things up.
M.corp apologised for posting in haste, we acepted people say things in the heat of the moment, M.corp was happy we were happy. Then you stirred it up again.
What eye said was true you werent there so cannot say it was or wasn't.
Now leave it at that.
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Posted - 2005.12.07 16:11:00 -
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Originally by: Eyeshadow
Edited by: Eyeshadow on 07/12/2005 15:31:43
Originally by: Raid
Flame...
Btw, any chance you Tyrell guys are gonna fight with your alliance or are you just going to continue camping Doril? Or are you so scared after the battering we gave you in empire as we havent seen you since. Now THAT is a flame
Lame smack and flamebait. No need.
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Eyeshadow
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Posted - 2005.12.07 16:13:00 -
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Originally by: DjDangle
Originally by: Eyeshadow
Edited by: Eyeshadow on 07/12/2005 15:31:43
Originally by: Raid
Flame...
Btw, any chance you Tyrell guys are gonna fight with your alliance or are you just going to continue camping Doril? Or are you so scared after the battering we gave you in empire as we havent seen you since. Now THAT is a flame
Lame smack and flamebait. No need.
i was taking the ****
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Boldyn
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Posted - 2005.12.07 16:14:00 -
[74]
Originally by: DjDangle
Originally by: Eyeshadow
Edited by: Eyeshadow on 07/12/2005 15:31:43
Originally by: Raid
Flame...
Btw, any chance you Tyrell guys are gonna fight with your alliance or are you just going to continue camping Doril? Or are you so scared after the battering we gave you in empire as we havent seen you since. Now THAT is a flame
Lame smack and flamebait. No need.
Then stop?
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Raid
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Posted - 2005.12.07 16:15:00 -
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Originally by: Eyeshadow
I could proclaim otherwise but im not gonna drag this thread through a "we pwn more than j00" etc etc tennis match. Suffice it to say, we have a fight nearly every night in GW. Much fun is usually had.
The "killing" im refering to is mostly on your killboard. The significant nature part refers to the the wallet size vs loss factor thats going on. Simply put your employer needs to keep paying you for a few more months.
Originally by: Eyeshadow
*shakes in his boots*
Big words, but you best make it snappy cos we wont be here forever
Purhapse you miunderstand... Why would we leave our home while it is full of things to shoot to come to GW to shoot someone who is paid to shoot at us? Im not threating you, mearly explaining that calling us out to GW wont really work because we dont want to give your employer more targets and thus make his investment worthwhile.
Originally by: Traxio Nacho
No offence but you did stir things up.
M.corp apologised for posting in haste, we acepted people say things in the heat of the moment, M.corp was happy we were happy. Then you stirred it up again.
What eye said was true you werent there so cannot say it was or wasn't.
Now leave it at that.
Im not refuting what he's saying is true or not... Just saying that telling someone not to disagree isnt the best way to start a thread. Thats all im saying... Purhapse we should discuss this ingame instead as its not related to this thread and people seem to think im commenting on this individual situation.
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Posted - 2005.12.07 16:18:00 -
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You turned around with those numbers? :S
Show's what faith you have in your pilots.
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Posted - 2005.12.07 16:23:00 -
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Edited by: Trooper B99 on 07/12/2005 16:26:17
Originally by: Raid
I was reply to the tone of the post thats all. I dont want to stir anything up with the M.Corp situation. I was a bit offended by the part that said "dont disagree with me"... I studied argumentation theory in university and stuff like that tends to bother me... thats all i have no intention of siring up the thread just stimulating a debate about what not to say when your trying to make a point.
Best best is to read and understand a situation before getting involved in an argument, I am certain that your argument theory covered that, yes? Especially if the situation had been resolved fully between the two parties, correct?
Thought so.
EDIT: Maasu, it has nothing to do with faith. Pilots when they are tired can make mistakes and when you're group is knackered it is often a good judgement call not to engage a support heavy fleet when you don't have much support yourself, especially on a jump in. Numbers as you know aren't everything when discussing engagements. EW on both sides is of course important as is the types of BS and support. I don't have all that info, only partial, but if Eye made that call, it was for a good reason.
Besides, as was said, we're technially not paid to shoot [5] at this time.
Wirykomi Team Racer - COLOSSUS Championships Year 106
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Raid
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Posted - 2005.12.07 16:34:00 -
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Yeah i should understand what im commenting on. But what if im not commenting on the specifics of the situation? What if im only refering to the part of his post thats saying "dont disagree with me"?.. Again, all im saying is dont ask a question then tell the person "btw you can respond but dont disagree with me".. Im not commenting on the situation just his use of that sentance.
Originally by: Trooper B99
Thought so.
Thats almost as insulting as saying "dont disagree with me"... Your point would get across much better had you left that out.
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Posted - 2005.12.07 16:39:00 -
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Edited by: FowlPlayChiken on 07/12/2005 16:40:44
I like cheese. alot.
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Traxio Nacho
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Posted - 2005.12.07 16:43:00 -
[80]
Originally by: FowlPlayChiken
Edited by: FowlPlayChiken on 07/12/2005 16:40:44
I like cheese. alot.
Thought you liked chicken?
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Posted - 2005.12.07 16:50:00 -
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Originally by: Raid
Yeah i should understand what im commenting on. But what if im not commenting on the specifics of the situation? What if im only refering to the part of his post thats saying "dont disagree with me"?.. Again, all im saying is dont ask a question then tell the person "btw you can respond but dont disagree with me".. Im not commenting on the situation just his use of that sentance.
The meaning of "don't disagree with me" is entirely dependant on the situation, hence the silliness of you objecting to it's use without understanding the situation first. Eye was not presenting an opinion, he was presenting fact. He was in command of the MC fleet during the incident in question, and his account of events was fair and accurate. M-Corp even accepted his account of events.
If he had posted "OMG, M-Corp outnumbered us 4:1. You are all lying blobbing eejits" then you may have some reason to object to "don't disagree with me". However, he actually said "Yes, we outnumbered you in BSs; but we were tired, on our way home, and didn't fancy a close fight with a support heavy fleet so we moved back to empire and logged.". That is hardly bragging, and in fact contains very little that anyone could disagree with. Saying "Don't disagree with me" was therefore fairly justified. What are people going disagree with? That a euro-heavy force who had been hunting for over 4 hrs were tired at midnight?
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Eyeshadow
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Posted - 2005.12.07 17:01:00 -
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Originally by: HatePeace LoveWar
You turned around with those numbers? :S
Show's what faith you have in your pilots.
Oh ffs here we go theres always one lame ***** in every thread.
I have a lot of faith in my pilots thank you very much. What i dont have faith in however is jumping a long range BS fleet (that is outnumbered 20 v 28 in the first place) into a 20 man support fleet and 8 ranged/EW BS setup on the gate.
If you cant see the logic behind me turning around then you obviously arent too bright. HLW is your home, you probably have a large stock of ships in the station/s there. There was also more than 28 in local, so who knows what backup you have
Let me give a run down of how that would have happened if we had jumped in:
Jump in/load in lag for starters.
Enemy commander calls primary/secondary/tertiary target
All 3 targets that are called are scrambled. Our 4-5 frigs/support is instaBBqed by numerous HACs & BCs
We would be lucky to kill anything, even with BS superiority due to the fact you can all warp away
All our BS are scrambled by 20+ support as we are killed
We basically end up getting anihilated
Do you see how this could have gone any other way? With 12 or so direct fire BS on our side and 2/3 EW versus 20 support + 8 BS at range, already aligned by the time we jump in, us unable to scramble them due to lack of tacklers/support on our side
But then again your ATUK so probably could kill everything and lose a vigil or something. IMO, as an FC, jumping into HLW and engaging a superior fleet both in numbers + tacklers, is not an intelligent thing to do and i would never order such a thing
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thoth foc
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Posted - 2005.12.07 17:08:00 -
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Originally by: Eyeshadow
Oh ffs here we go theres always one lame ***** in every thread.
happens everytime you enter eh?
--thoth
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Eyeshadow
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Posted - 2005.12.07 17:10:00 -
[84]
Originally by: thoth foc
Originally by: Eyeshadow
Oh ffs here we go theres always one lame ***** in every thread.
happens everytime you enter eh?
dont you start
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Adam C
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Posted - 2005.12.07 17:12:00 -
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Mercenary Coalition need for forum publicity is ridiculous, and I believe Mercenary Coalition is struggling to find legitimacy or reasoning for keeping up there pretensions of legitimate honorable hostile actions, against most of eve alliances and organizations. Last night saw Mercenary Coalition slipping a little when they engaged, destroyed and posted that MASS battleship kill.
But however I apologize for my last paragraph if MASS are indeed totally hostile towards Mercenary Coalition.
Its funny though because it just proves my point that making enemies through-out eve with the false believe that every alliance accepts one-sided approaches of all-our war or false contracts. Mercenary Coalition are becoming small fish, youÆre actions are becoming more-so.
* Yep that was a rant, but only because IÆm starting to hate them for their silly tactics, for what they stand for. ^^
p.s. I used to like you guys :P
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Raid
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Posted - 2005.12.07 17:13:00 -
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Originally by: Julien Derida
The meaning of "don't disagree with me" is entirely dependant on the situation, hence the silliness of you objecting to it's use without understanding the situation first.
That is hardly bragging, and in fact contains very little that anyone could disagree with. Saying "Don't disagree with me" was therefore fairly justified.
I disagree... It does not depend on the situation. Saying "dont disagree with me" means "There is nothing that can be refuted my argument is entirely sound and anything you say from here on out is meaningless."
The second part of your reply already adresses what im trying to get across. Someone COULD disagree, anyone can disagree even if their entirely flawed in their logic. Rule #1 in a sucessful argument is the understanding that you might always be wrong. Saying dont disagree with me totally disregards that hence my objection to its use.
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Posted - 2005.12.07 17:23:00 -
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Originally by: Blacklight
With those numbers I'd have jumped in and BBQ'd the crap out of them, Eyeshadow you are getting timid in your old age
So would i have done..
Afraid of the support are we..not good..
http://bydi.digilo.net/forum/
Edited, Ugluuk rox my boxxor -Dyvim
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Crzycnck2
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Posted - 2005.12.07 17:26:00 -
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I just read this entire thread.. thatÆs ****ing 20 min of my life IÆll never get back.
YOUÆRE ALL LAMMERS MMMKAY.
Why is it with these kinds of threads there is always 5:1 ratio of 5 posting to everyone else. Not too mention it always seems that just when the thread should come to a close (ie an apology was given by glass, thanks glass) there has to be some muppet out there to stir **** up (hmm who am I thinking of.. oh yeah Mr. Raid) oh then thereÆs the other muppets that canÆt seem to let the logging thing go (wont mention it was... ohh yeah a 5 member).
FFS this is pathetic. This thread was dead about 50 posts ago.
Battle Angels Gather,
They Warp In,
Guns Engage,
Ships Die.
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Posted - 2005.12.07 17:28:00 -
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Originally by: Adam C
Mercenary Coalition need for forum publicity is ridiculous, and I believe Mercenary Coalition is struggling to find legitimacy or reasoning for keeping up there pretensions of legitimate honorable hostile actions, against most of eve alliances and organizations.
We dont need forum publicity at all thank you. Most people know who and what we are. A force of seasoned PVPers that are available to do your bidding. Nothing has ever changed, and our actions have never been classed as "honorable". We do what we are paid to do, against whoever.
Originally by: Adam C
Last night saw Mercenary Coalition slipping a little when they engaged, destroyed and posted that MASS battleship kill.
But however I apologize for my last paragraph if MASS are indeed totally hostile towards Mercenary Coalition
MASS are neutral to MC, as we are to them. They undocked in what i classed as a hostile system, therefor all non blues are killed. I gave them fair warning to redock and stay there. We do attack neutrals, have done for a long time, especially after losing ships to people we thought were neutral, but were later shooting at us
Originally by: Adam C
Its funny though because it just proves my point that making enemies through-out eve with the false believe that every alliance accepts one-sided approaches of all-our war or false contracts. Mercenary Coalition are becoming small fish, youÆre actions are becoming more-so.
The MC is always under contract, unless we state otherwise. We have never, and will never, take a contract from an alt or start up a war under premise of a contract. This is widely known amongst the community. It is a reputation we have build over a long period of time, and your nay saying isnt going to change it
As for being small fish, let me give you a hypothetical situation:
Client approaches us as they are being hassled daily by an enemy alliance
We spot numerous gangs of said alliance flying around
We declare war and kick the crap out of them for 6 days straight, after which, they retreat back to their home space
Client is happy but wants the enemy alliance to pay more, so tells us to go after them
We basically shut down their home space for 2 weeks with constant attack
Conveniently, said target decides to move AGAIN, to another region of space
Sound familiar? Small fry is your perspective. As far as our client is concerned, he got exactly what he wanted from us
Originally by: Adam C
* Yep that was a rant, but only because IÆm starting to hate them for their silly tactics, for what they stand for. ^^
Dont worry, a lot of people feel that way after we have killed them numerous times. I would be interested to hear what "silly tactics" it is we use? You mean killing you, repeatedly, and hounding you, in empire and inside your own space, chasing your fleets about and stuff? Of course, sound like silly tactics to me
Originally by: Adam C
p.s. I used to like you guys :P
Again, a lot of people do until we start shooting them
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Adam C
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Posted - 2005.12.07 17:34:00 -
[90]
Originally by: Eyeshadow
Dont worry, a lot of people feel that way after we have killed them numerous times. I would be interested to hear what "silly tactics" it is we use? You mean killing you, repeatedly, and hounding you, in empire and inside your own space, chasing your fleets about and stuff? Of course, sound like silly tactics to me
Originally by: Adam C
p.s. I used to like you guys :P
Again, a lot of people do until we start shooting them
You may*** of killed myship once. I call that good ratio for the amount of MC, FUCO & -V- takes down. Believe me when I tell you FUCO are recovering-thugs. The trait is so easily seen in MC forever well you dress it up, with ure smart-ass forum-posts and ure dressed up killsite.
p.s. this is my 2nd and last reply, I'm also a recovering forum-addict. Every new forum post i make, i then make another 
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Posted - 2005.12.07 17:48:00 -
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Edited by: thoth foc on 07/12/2005 17:49:59
I think as a mostly non-0.0 entity most alliances are happy to ignore MC until they effect them... after that it isnt a matter of like or dislike.. but standings arent reset just because MC decide their contract is over.. No self respecting 0.0 alliance is afraid of MC.. you kill ppl yes.. all 0.0 alliances kill ppl.. your just another one.. and while you might consider yourself neutral, most (all?) 0.0 alliances shoot neutrals on sight..
--thoth
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Raid
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Posted - 2005.12.07 17:50:00 -
[92]
Originally by: Crzycnck2
YOUÆRE ALL LAMMERS MMMKAY.
there has to be some muppet out there to stir **** up (hmm who am I thinking of.. oh yeah Mr. Raid)
Another way one should not start an argument. Respect others and they will respect you. Call everyone lamers and you become one yourself.
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Posted - 2005.12.07 18:08:00 -
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Originally by: Ugluuk
So would i have done..
Afraid of the support are we..not good..
Too easy, too easy. Im gonna resist saying what i want to say to you
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Posted - 2005.12.07 18:14:00 -
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Originally by: Eyeshadow
What i dont have faith in however is jumping a long range BS fleet (that is outnumbered 20 v 28 in the first place)
Sorry but i just cant resist
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Ilmonstre
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Posted - 2005.12.07 18:14:00 -
[96]
Originally by: Trooper B99
Besides, as was said, we're technially not paid to shoot [5] at this time.
i was staying out this thread but when i saw this i had to reply.
if you are not payed to shoot us then why do you do it when its convienient for the MC??? as you are mercs and only shoot on people you are payed for to shoot at.
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Seleene
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Posted - 2005.12.07 18:23:00 -
[97]
Edited by: Seleene on 07/12/2005 18:23:56
You know... Eye tried to be factual and very honest about last night. He told his side of things and laid out his reasons. Now he is getting flamed by people who weren't even there, people who didn't like a particular turn of phrase he used and people who just have nothing better to do than say, "OMG, MC are pirates/sploiters/loggers/etc..."
M Corp had thier say. We had ours. This thread was over on the second page. Everything that happened afterwards is just an meaningless tennis match of words that could go on another 10 pages.
"I would have..."
"You should have..."
"Why did you..."
FFS, this crap can be talked about in game, on MSN, IRC, etc... If you really want answers, that's the place to do it. Contact the person you have an issue with and talk to them one on one. Sheesh!
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thoth foc
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Posted - 2005.12.07 18:25:00 -
[98]
Originally by: Seleene
Edited by: Seleene on 07/12/2005 18:23:56
You know... Eye tried to be factual and very honest about last night. He told his side of things and laid out his reasons. Now he is getting flamed by people who weren't even there, people who didn't like a particular turn of phrase he used and people who just have nothing better to do than say, "OMG, MC are pirates/sploiters/loggers/etc..."
M Corp had thier say. We had ours. This thread was over on the second page. Everything that happened afterwards is just an meaningless tennis match of words that could go on another 10 pages.
"I would have..."
"You should have..."
"Why did you..."
FFS, this crap can be talked about in game, on MSN, IRC, etc... If you really want answers, that's the place to do it. Contact the person you have an issue with and talk to them one on one. Sheesh!
i blame trooper tbh
--thoth
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Seleene
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Posted - 2005.12.07 18:30:00 -
[99]
Originally by: thoth foc
i blame trooper tbh
Get back in yer damn kennel, Thoth!
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Julien Derida
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Posted - 2005.12.07 18:31:00 -
[100]
Originally by: Raid
The second part of your reply already adresses what im trying to get across. Someone COULD disagree, anyone can disagree even if their entirely flawed in their logic. Rule #1 in a sucessful argument is the understanding that you might always be wrong. Saying dont disagree with me totally disregards that hence my objection to its use.
We are not in some kind of highly formalised polite debating club here. Eyeshadow is not obliged to acknowledge the existence of logically flawed and incorrect refutations of his post. Suggesting that he should treat these arguments as any other is asking him to take politeness to a ridiculous extreme.
Honestly, stop objecting for the sake of it. It's pointless
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Lorth
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Posted - 2005.12.07 18:31:00 -
[101]
Originally by: Crzycnck2
I just read this entire thread.. thatÆs ****ing 20 min of my life IÆll never get back.
YOUÆRE ALL LAMMERS MMMKAY.
Why is it with these kinds of threads there is always 5:1 ratio of 5 posting to everyone else. Not too mention it always seems that just when the thread should come to a close (ie an apology was given by glass, thanks glass) there has to be some muppet out there to stir **** up (hmm who am I thinking of.. oh yeah Mr. Raid) oh then thereÆs the other muppets that canÆt seem to let the logging thing go (wont mention it was... ohh yeah a 5 member).
FFS this is pathetic. This thread was dead about 50 posts ago.
Hey. While the orginial post was started wrongly by a 5 member, we did appologize for it, and have moved on to better things. I'm sorry, but I really don't think this comment is all that approperate. We were in the wrong, and said so.
I think both sides in this debate have the utmost respect for eachother. Lets not try and ruin it, by wrongly blaming one side for smacking, or talking about logging. The people carrying on the flamage, arn't wearing a 5 ticker.
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Rogthgar
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Posted - 2005.12.07 18:36:00 -
[102]
Originally by: Eyeshadow
Look Ma, i can post without flaming!
1. Yes we did pass through Curse and HLW/VOL but we werent there for you. After playing with Veritas for an hour or so in and around DSS, they docked without any engagements,
2. You guys are of no interest unless you present yourselves to me in a number im happy to engage.
1. if thats you perception of that night i would like my thron back thank you!
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Casius
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Posted - 2005.12.07 18:39:00 -
[103]
Edited by: Casius on 07/12/2005 18:41:34
Seleene unfortunately the forums are a big part of this game.
ppl are free to voice their opinions and that is how it should be. That is what this forum is here for
You guys are good at what u do every1 knows that, dont take these forums too seriously
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HeadWar
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Posted - 2005.12.07 18:45:00 -
[104]
Originally by: Rogthgar
Originally by: Eyeshadow
Look Ma, i can post without flaming!
1. Yes we did pass through Curse and HLW/VOL but we werent there for you. After playing with Veritas for an hour or so in and around DSS, they docked without any engagements,
2. You guys are of no interest unless you present yourselves to me in a number im happy to engage.
1. if thats you perception of that night i would like my thron back thank you!
2. MC run EVERY time they dont outnumber their target 3 to 1
1. You didn't engage, you got left behind by your friends, and consequently ganked.
2. That is patently not true, you know it, I know it, and I'm pretty sure everyone else knows it too.
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Seleene
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Posted - 2005.12.07 18:46:00 -
[105]
Originally by: Casius
Seleene unfortunately the forums are a big part of this game.
ppl are free to voice their opinions and that is how it should be. That is what this forum is here for
You guys are good at what u do every1 knows that, dont take these forums too seriously
OFC, Casius. It's just that this thing has spiraled a TAD out of control, m8.
Originally by: Rogthgar
2. MC run EVERY time they dont outnumber their target 3 to 1
FRAPS > all forum rhetoric. Show me yours and I'll show you mine.
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Eyeshadow
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Posted - 2005.12.07 18:50:00 -
[106]
Originally by: Rogthgar
Originally by: Eyeshadow
Look Ma, i can post without flaming!
1. Yes we did pass through Curse and HLW/VOL but we werent there for you. After playing with Veritas for an hour or so in and around DSS, they docked without any engagements,
2. You guys are of no interest unless you present yourselves to me in a number im happy to engage.
1. if thats you perception of that night i would like my thron back thank you!
2. MC run EVERY time they dont outnumber their target 3 to 1
i dont class ganking your mega as an engagement
We could be here all night arguing your point. As headwar says, we have heard it numerous times, from numerous people (including LD and HH II, who, btw, ran 3 times from a close range EVEN engagement) and i aint gonna start talking about it again
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thoth foc
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Posted - 2005.12.07 18:51:00 -
[107]
Originally by: Eyeshadow
and i aint gonna start talking about it again
not even for a cookie?
--thoth
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Seleene
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Posted - 2005.12.07 18:55:00 -
[108]
EVERYONE GO HERE!!
That is much more interesting!!
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Agent Kenshin
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Posted - 2005.12.07 18:56:00 -
[109]
Originally by: Rogthgar
2. MC run EVERY time they dont outnumber their target 3 to 1
Ok normally i wouldnt have a problem with something like this but last friday night i was with a gang of people who spent 5 hours chasing you guys around GW. When we finally got a fight and you did out number us in every engagement you would warp off. Sure you would fight on a few occasions but as soon as we would show up you would warp off. Towards the end of the night we just go so tired of you running around we left to go get sleep. Call it repositioning or whatever you want but you did warp off numerous times when you had us outnumbered.
Props to those who put up good fights. I salute those of you who i have fought and chased for a while.
Oh and Raid btw clients goals are not always blow up and inflict the most amount of damage possible. You moving to Curse is a prime example of it. Goals != kills.  Oh and why are you still living in the past let curse go.
Originally by: MAXSuicide
only carebears call pvpers 'greifers'
ehehehh....
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Guderian
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Posted - 2005.12.07 19:01:00 -
[110]
Originally by: Crzycnck2
Why is it with these kinds of threads there is always 5:1 ratio of 5 posting to everyone else.
Just counted roughly 27 posts by [5] members. And that was out of a total of 108 posts at the time. So thats a 27:108 ratio, which is just about 1/4, which not even on a good day could be considered to be 5 times as many as everyone else.
Hope you dont count like that when it comes to other issues.
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Blacklight
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Posted - 2005.12.07 19:02:00 -
[111]
Originally by: Seleene
"I would have..."
I was only poking Eyeshadow a bit 
/me slopes off to another thread with head hung low in sorrow and shame
Eve Blacklight Style
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Jenny Spitfire
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Posted - 2005.12.07 19:05:00 -
[112]
Originally by: Agent Kenshin
Ok normally i wouldnt have a problem with something like this but last friday night i was with a gang of people who spent 5 hours chasing you guys around GW.
Hi Pot... kettle... black?
TBH, I have wasted like hours and days waiting for MC to fight and only time when I see/hear fights are when everybody is either in bed or just fed up with MC's easy ganks and gorilla warfare.
Gorrilla offense are only countered by gorrilla defense.
If this goes up, I wonder which pilots will even bother to "entertain" ppl like you lots. Have to remember, Eve == game and Eve != Killboard statistics.
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Omeega
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Posted - 2005.12.07 19:08:00 -
[113]
Originally by: Guderian
Originally by: Crzycnck2
Why is it with these kinds of threads there is always 5:1 ratio of 5 posting to everyone else.
Just counted roughly 27 posts by [5] members. And that was out of a total of 108 posts at the time. So thats a 27:108 ratio, which is just about 1/4, which not even on a good day could be considered to be 5 times as many as everyone else.
Hope you dont count like that when it comes to other issues.
lol you counted the posts. rofl
Don't speak english. F1,f2,f3...
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Raid
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Posted - 2005.12.07 19:12:00 -
[114]
Originally by: Julien Derida
Honestly, stop objecting for the sake of it. It's pointless
Im not objecting for the sake of is. Its a pet peeve of mine and it bothered me so i replied. People misunderstood me, so i explained.
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Guderian
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Posted - 2005.12.07 19:16:00 -
[115]
Edited by: Guderian on 07/12/2005 19:16:38
Originally by: Omeega
lol you counted the posts. rofl
Yes, that is usually how it works when one is gathering facts, instead of just guessing and postulating and throwing out random, unbased statistics.
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Eyeshadow
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Posted - 2005.12.07 19:21:00 -
[116]
Originally by: Jenny Spitfire
Edited by: Jenny Spitfire on 07/12/2005 19:06:26
Originally by: Agent Kenshin
Ok normally i wouldnt have a problem with something like this but last friday night i was with a gang of people who spent 5 hours chasing you guys around GW.
Hi Pot... kettle... black?
TBH, I have wasted like hours and days waiting for MC to fight and only time when I see/hear fights are when everybody is either in bed or just fed up with MC's easy ganks and gorilla warfare.
Gorrilla offense are only countered by gorrilla defense.
If this goes up, I wonder which pilots will even bother to "entertain" ppl like you lots. Have to remember, Eve == game and Eve != Killboard statistics.
Have a dose of your own medicine!
You need to be careful with your blanket statements
We have had about 15 Fleet engagements with Veritas, where we have actually traded shots at each other. You werent in any of them (atleast i dont remember you being there). Just cos you werent there doesnt mean they didnt happen
This Eve ==!-===!-==bg==1lgl crap means nothing to me. I play the game to have fun and kill lots of stuff. Thats what i do. Thats what we all do. Your so called geurilla (notice spelling) tactics involve hounding you, aswell as engaging your fleets and gangs. We did this on a regular basis (read daily). That is NOT geurilla warfare. Geurilla warfare involves small packs attacking large packs. We did that aswell, but we took you head on aswell so dont come here and try and preach we dont fight fair fights and only fight when we outnumber, cos thats rubbish.
Stop reading into LD's "MC are lame" rubbish that he puts about. It's not as if he can turn round and say "we are a PVP alliance that has lost nearly 16bil in ship insurance in 6 weeks to another PVP alliance". No ones ever going to say that. But atleast look at it from a realistic POV. We have engaged you, you have engaged us. We have won some fights, you have won some fights. Fun has been had, by us atleast, on some occasions
I have (though its quickly evaporating) respect for Veritas. You guys come out and fight often, and thats a first for us, most people ignore us and leave us ganks (and then complain about it). Please dont tarnish our respect for you. LD + HH II have already done a good job of it by proclaiming how lame we are and stuff. TBH, we get it on just about every contract we have.
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Jenny Spitfire
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Posted - 2005.12.07 19:22:00 -
[117]
Edited by: Jenny Spitfire on 07/12/2005 19:23:51
Originally by: Eyeshadow
...
Monkey business gets monkey business was what I was trying to say and thanks, I do know guerilla warfare and how it is spelt.
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Equinox II
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Posted - 2005.12.07 19:27:00 -
[118]
Originally by: Eyeshadow
... Your so called geurilla (notice spelling) tactics involve hounding you, aswell as engaging your fleets and gangs. We did this on a regular basis (read daily). That is NOT geurilla warfare. Geurilla warfare involves small packs attacking large packs...
Guerilla (notice spelling).. :)
Sorry, just had to :p
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Eyeshadow
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Posted - 2005.12.07 19:28:00 -
[119]
Edited by: Eyeshadow on 07/12/2005 19:28:32
Originally by: Jenny Spitfire
Edited by: Jenny Spitfire on 07/12/2005 19:27:25
Originally by: Eyeshadow
...
Monkey business gets monkey business was what I was trying to say and thanks, I do know guerilla warfare and how it is spelt.
Also, everything is from my own experience and my own personal comments. Neither -V- nor LD has said anything. Basically, I am just bored with MC tactics and I have already given up on entertaining you people.
Bored with our tactics? what are our tactics that you are bored with? I have heard this said numerous times by V members but im still intrigued as to what it is you find boring?
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Light Darkness
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Posted - 2005.12.07 19:33:00 -
[120]
Originally by: Eyeshadow
Edited by: Eyeshadow on 07/12/2005 19:28:32
Originally by: Jenny Spitfire
Edited by: Jenny Spitfire on 07/12/2005 19:27:25
Originally by: Eyeshadow
...
Monkey business gets monkey business was what I was trying to say and thanks, I do know guerilla warfare and how it is spelt.
Also, everything is from my own experience and my own personal comments. Neither -V- nor LD has said anything. Basically, I am just bored with MC tactics and I have already given up on entertaining you people.
Bored with our tactics? what are our tactics that you are bored with? I have heard this said numerous times by V members but im still intrigued as to what it is you find boring?
Sry Eyeshadow.
But thats lame. You got respect but this flamefest isnt positive.
You got nice ganks and V. But most time it was a SS spotting from MC and V cause you dont fight our fights.
We tryed it some times and you also. So keep it respectfully here.
So please all -V- members dont answere here or keep it with respect to our enemys.
CU on the BF.
Regards
/LD
*-V-President* *-V-Fleet Command*
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Seleene
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Posted - 2005.12.07 19:34:00 -
[121]
Originally by: Jenny Spitfire
TBH, I have wasted like hours and days waiting for MC to fight and only time when I see/hear fights are when everybody is either in bed or just fed up with MC's easy ganks and gorilla warfare.
Have a dose of your own medicine!
Hi, Jenny. Yes, there have been ganks aplenty. However, over 70% of V's BS losses have taken place during sustained fleet combat. Guerilla warfare is at the heart of what we do, but we never shy away from a fight that is anywhere close to even. In fact, people get nervous when I'm FC because I tend to be a tad more aggressive than some of our other commanders. That cost me a Deimos early in this war.
But, I'm not all talk either so....
A Weekend in Great Wildlands
Towards the middle of this film, perhaps you can show me here where we are engaging you with 3 - 1 odds, refuse to engage at close range (why else would I have a 20k scrambler on my Raven?) or how you are having to constantly chase us around? We even let you bust one of our SS to see what would happen!
This is just a sample from this past weekend when we were outnumbered in every ship type, in every engagement and we still went after V with everything we had. I saw your name on my scanner as part of an enemy fleet more than once, Jenny, and I wasn't warping away very much.
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Jenny Spitfire
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Posted - 2005.12.07 19:36:00 -
[122]
Originally by: Eyeshadow
Bored with our tactics? what are our tactics that you are bored with? I have heard this said numerous times by V members but im still intrigued as to what it is you find boring?
Well... MC tactics are so famous that I do not need to say unneccessary comments and prolonged this discussion any further (moi last post). I am sure that you have heard the phrase, "good wine needs no bushes". Ask around, perhaps your former contracts/victims/employers/etc. and I am sure they can fill in the boring stuffs because they are so boring that I prefer not to waste too much time on them.
Sorry and I hope you do understand. Thanks for reading.
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Traxio Nacho
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Posted - 2005.12.07 19:36:00 -
[123]
Edited by: Traxio Nacho on 07/12/2005 19:37:24
Originally by: Jenny Spitfire
Edited by: Jenny Spitfire on 07/12/2005 19:23:51
Originally by: Eyeshadow
...
Monkey business gets monkey business was what I was trying to say and thanks, I do know guerilla warfare and how it is spelt.
Jenny stop trying to post stuff trying to cause agruements!!!!
M.corp made a comment they apologised, MC was happy M.corp happy.
Certain person not yourself came along stirred it all up and started a flame war now leave it!!!.
Noone is gonna agree you think we gank we think you gank, you think we run when even number, we think you run and so on we all think the best of our own alliance.
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Seleene
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Posted - 2005.12.07 19:44:00 -
[124]
Originally by: LightDarkness
You got nice ganks and V. But most time it was a SS spotting from MC and V cause you dont fight our fights
What types of fights would those be? The ones where you win all the time? Sorry, not interested.
A few weeks ago, I had nothing but praise for you guys. However, a lot of the respect we had for you is vanishing due to comments like this from yourself.
Why you and your people seem to NEED to write off your losses due to our "lameness" is beneath you, sir. We're due for a talk anyway, LD.
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Aussie Trader
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Posted - 2005.12.07 20:08:00 -
[125]
Seleene, you sound like my mum.
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Seleene
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Posted - 2005.12.07 20:15:00 -
[126]
Originally by: Aussie Trader
Seleene, you sound like my mum.
Lies! Noob corp alts don't have parents.
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Entschlossen
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Posted - 2005.12.07 20:26:00 -
[127]
Edited by: Entschlossen on 07/12/2005 20:33:36
I think that is meant with lame tactic. It is effective, but very boring in my opinion. I would rather loose my BS there than missing a funny fight. I pay to have fun and not to compare losses / kills :-).
Originally by: Eyeshadow
After getting the numbers, you had 8 BS and about 20 support. We had about 15 BS and 4-5 support.
Basically, engaging that much support when jumping in with long range fleet setup BS did not interest me very much, so i turned us around and we went to Agil to dock and log for the night
Btw. why do you think we leave GW? We only prepare a little Fleet OP. If you want to join the fun, simply come to Stain the OP will begin soon.
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Traxio Nacho
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Posted - 2005.12.07 20:29:00 -
[128]
Originally by: Entschlossen
I think that is meant with lame tactic. It is effective, but very boring in my opinion. I would rather loose my BS there than missing a funny fight. I pay to have fun and not to compare losses / kills :-).
Originally by: Eyeshadow
After getting the numbers, you had 8 BS and about 20 support. We had about 15 BS and 4-5 support.
Basically, engaging that much support when jumping in with long range fleet setup BS did not interest me very much, so i turned us around and we went to Agil to dock and log for the night
Don't even go there mate trust me
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Marko Debreault
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Posted - 2005.12.07 20:36:00 -
[129]
My respect for the -V- alliance is undiminished after six weeks of engagements.
When the contract started they proved that they wanted to fight. Now that the contract has gone on for over a month, they continue to prove that they want to fight. We give it to them in different shapes and forms every single day. Ganks, small gang engagements, full fleet battles, it's all happening.
After six weeks of fighting it is difficult to assess the battlefield from on objective viewpoint. But my best attempts to do so show that -V- are as eager to fight us as they ever were, and for that I thank them.
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Lord Gunstar
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Posted - 2005.12.07 22:24:00 -
[130]
MC not wanting to fight in 0.0 SHOCKER!
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Trooper B99
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Posted - 2005.12.07 22:31:00 -
[131]
I thought I'd answer this as its pertinant to me as I made the comment, I'm not gonna get any more involved in the nonsense thats spiraling out of control regarding -v- and suggest Eye asks for a lock as this thread has run its course. Raid, I'm not going to get involved in meanings of words and phrases as to me it's very pedantic and varys from person to person greatly. Suffice to say the point has been made several times it doesn't really matter as this was a non-event dealt with before your introduction to the thread.
Originally by: Ilmonstre
i was staying out this thread but when i saw this i had to reply.
if you are not payed to shoot us then why do you do it when its convienient for the MC??? as you are mercs and only shoot on people you are payed for to shoot at.
We (the MC) are being paid to shoot who our client has paid us to shoot. Thats generally gives us the primary target and incidentals who are also to be engaged. V are currently our primary target and [5] are incidentals in 0.0, so we're technically not being paid to shoot [5]. This wasn't the case earlier on when [5] and -v- were both primaries with other incidentals in 0.0. However, I'm not privy to the current TS MC leadership meetings regarding the contract.
That answer your, ah, question?
Wirykomi Team Racer - COLOSSUS Championships Year 106
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EL TITAN
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Posted - 2005.12.07 22:40:00 -
[132]
lol
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Moonbeam Stalker
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Posted - 2005.12.07 22:46:00 -
[133]
it's amazing that M. corp has the time to post sense they are sucking off RA cus they want some space from them. for there new Allince
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Boldyn
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Posted - 2005.12.07 22:52:00 -
[134]
Originally by: Light Darkness
Originally by: Eyeshadow
Edited by: Eyeshadow on 07/12/2005 19:28:32
Originally by: Jenny Spitfire
Edited by: Jenny Spitfire on 07/12/2005 19:27:25
Originally by: Eyeshadow
...
Monkey business gets monkey business was what I was trying to say and thanks, I do know guerilla warfare and how it is spelt.
Also, everything is from my own experience and my own personal comments. Neither -V- nor LD has said anything. Basically, I am just bored with MC tactics and I have already given up on entertaining you people.
Bored with our tactics? what are our tactics that you are bored with? I have heard this said numerous times by V members but im still intrigued as to what it is you find boring?
Sry Eyeshadow.
But thats lame. You got respect but this flamefest isnt positive.
You got nice ganks and V. But most time it was a SS spotting from MC and V cause you dont fight our fights.
We tryed it some times and you also. So keep it respectfully here.
So please all -V- members dont answere here or keep it with respect to our enemys.
CU on the BF.
Regards
/LD
Ah finally you show up.
How about you drop the peace and love, respect aight? attitude? We all know how you really feel about us ..."runners" was it meestah LD?
All the BS you talk, does your people buy that? Not the ones that apologise for their FC warping them away from the fights over and over I bet. The whole "We are losing every engagement we have with MC but in the long run this is good for us!!". I mean really...
If you don't like us, fine. Stick to the truth and you can hate us 4ever, but stop the lies just cuss your are getting shot down. No one expects you to kill more then the paid merc ok?
Do you belive in what you say yourself? That MC only engages 2:1, that we just kill nubs and miners and gang people? You have ****ing been there yourself in those fights LD, there are fleetbattle summaries on your KB stating the facts ffs. -V- has some of the best fighting spirit around, don't drag that down into your crap you are chewing now
Bottom line. Dead. Is. Dead. We get paid to kill as many of your ships as possible. Something tells me those numbers that can be seen everywhere are not all your nubs, cuss then you have some serious issues...
You don't like it? Well sorry, we are not paid to entertain you. I like alot of the -V- people, they are cool guys that don't feel the need to bend the truth to cover things up...
Have fun fighting G/Iron, hopefully they don't run away and kill 800 ships..
muppet..
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Phoenicia
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Posted - 2005.12.07 22:57:00 -
[135]
Originally by: Moonbeam Stalker
it's amazing that M. corp has the time to post sense they are sucking off RA cus they want some space from them. for there new Allince
Woah! Arent references to oral sex a bannable offense? Not that there's anything wrong with oral sex. Its a lovely activity really. Hm.
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Moonbeam Stalker
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Posted - 2005.12.07 23:01:00 -
[136]
sucking off aka want to be a leach. and or be part of RA but not really. wanting RA space but not join.
wants RA to be the host as they SUCK the life and blood from it.
that is want i was saying. no oral sex here
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Kcel Chim
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Posted - 2005.12.07 23:06:00 -
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despite what you do now, i respect MC for their hard work, their own tactics and the skill they show in empire fighting.
Last but not least you guys "invented" mercenaries back to glory.
However you should keep to your roots, the smacktalk and the countless forumposts dont fit well with your image anymore. Remember the guys you smack today are maybe the contractors of 2morrow.
Maybe you should stick abit to your original image, as that made u unique and kept you above "the general alliance yada yada" or "the low rank punk talkin bull".
A report and a nice vid was all the public got to see back in the days and it was both impressive and made me and others wanna hire you. However if you keep insulting in local (someone can surely dig up logs if its needed) and the long forumdiscussions and flamebaiting it will only show youre "as bad" as the lesser mercs where profesionalism isnt part of the job (something which differenciates from any alliance, even the pvp ones).
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Posted - 2005.12.07 23:15:00 -
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Edited by: Nebuli on 07/12/2005 23:17:49
Edited by: Nebuli on 07/12/2005 23:17:24
Sorry the quote didnt seem to work correctly, this was originaly posted by Eyeshadow....
As for being small fish, let me give you a hypothetical situation:
Client approaches us as they are being hassled daily by an enemy alliance
We spot numerous gangs of said alliance flying around
We declare war and kick the crap out of them for 6 days straight, after which, they retreat back to their home space
Client is happy but wants the enemy alliance to pay more, so tells us to go after them
We basically shut down their home space for 2 weeks with constant attack
Conveniently, said target decides to move AGAIN, to another region of space
Sound familiar? Small fry is your perspective. As far as our client is concerned, he got exactly what he wanted from us
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This I would like to comment on, the actions you speak of above implying we moved to our home region, and then moved to another to escape you is simply not true, we did leave empire, and we have moved to another region for a alliance op, but these actions would have happend wether you guys were attacking us or not, those moves had nothing to do with you guys at all.
Other than that lets stop the nonsense, I thank MC for some good fight, I personaly have fully enjoyed having you guys around, we also have problems with people running away all the time etc and having an enemy that will regularly engage is very enjoyable.
And as for the WAR situation, we win some, you win some, all good fun, dont see either side losing or winning realy, just some nice fights :)
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slip66
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Posted - 2005.12.07 23:31:00 -
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Originally by: Agent Kenshin
Originally by: Rogthgar
2. MC run EVERY time they dont outnumber their target 3 to 1
Call it repositioning or whatever you want but you did warp off numerous times when you had us outnumbered.
Much like Eyeshadown didnt like taking a long range fleet into a short range fight. HH didnt want to take a short range fleet to long range against you guys. Even numbers or not if the range is to great then the numbers of ships actually fighting isnt very even.
You guys are very patient. Why cant we be the same way and pick a fight on our terms? Not a flame btw just pointing out different points of view.
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Seleene
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Posted - 2005.12.08 00:00:00 -
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Kcel Chim, as time goes on, entities in EVE evolve. It's very hard to be like in the "old days" for several reasons. None of that makes anything you've said wrong tho and I thank you for your words. You have a very valid point, one that I expect will see quite a bit of life on the MC forums come tommorow.
Hopefully everyone got thier 'bad blood' out in this thread. I won't be posting on this topic again until the end of contract report.
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Gunship
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Posted - 2005.12.08 00:06:00 -
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We did actualy think that with 18 BS, you would have the upper hand, but desided to stay on the gate, we even took down the bubbles.
Guess we just really wanted a fight, so a shame you could not make it, perhaps next time?
So you want to join us?
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Eyeshadow
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Posted - 2005.12.08 00:14:00 -
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Originally by: Gunship
We did actualy think that with 18 BS, you would have the upper hand, but desided to stay on the gate, we even took down the bubbles.
Guess we just really wanted a fight, so a shame you could not make it, perhaps next time?
we had 17 at the start of the night. we lost 2-3 during the course of the night so were down to 14-15 (dont really remember). It was the amount of support you had that really put me off jumping in. Didnt really see what we could about 20 or so frigs + cruisers with ranged BS. It would have been messy, put it that way.
I wont make excuses, such as us being at it for 4 hours or so already, it being late Euro time and stuff, i will just say i gave the command to turn around cos i didnt fancy it
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Pepperami
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Posted - 2005.12.08 00:32:00 -
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I think -V- were spoiled fighting NBSI, F-E and (maybe even) PA. Those alliances were people who weren't afraid to switch to frigs and do suicide runs in the name of fun - I like to think -V- did the same for them, so all in all mucho fun is had by all.
With MC it's more "serious", mercs (- not just mercs, but mercs especially -) love to rub figures in everyones face, when the fact of the matter is most others prefer having fun. So the "lame" tactics are us not getting to have fun by having a silly fight or people risking their ships on suicide runs.. You might see it as fullfulling a contract, but we see it as wasting a subscription.
I've tried to word this flame-free so I hope MC don't take offense to this post, just trying to explain my, and others, perception of "lame" tactics.
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Leosian
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Posted - 2005.12.08 00:43:00 -
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Originally by: Eyeshadow
Oh and please stop thinking you are the centre of the universe.
I dont know why i feel the need to justify my and the rest of the MC's actions to people, but i find you calling us loggers offensive
Gee Eye, I always figured you thought yourself center of the Eve universe. I mean, everytime a couple of us had our opinions about things, you were always the first to try to ram them down our throats.
You feel you need to justify "your" actions since you like to be the center of attention, just like a spoiled child. I found a lot of things in the game offensive, however logging is just lame and childish...kinda like your post.
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Velsharoon
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Posted - 2005.12.08 00:48:00 -
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If we had rules I would come on on you like a ton of bricks leo :/
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Julien Derida
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Posted - 2005.12.08 00:50:00 -
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I was just about to post something similar Vels. Leo, you're a better man than that post.
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Leosian
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Posted - 2005.12.08 00:56:00 -
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Originally by: Julien Derida
I was just about to post something similar Vels. Leo, you're a better man than that post.
People change Jules. Memories don't
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Velsharoon
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Posted - 2005.12.08 01:00:00 -
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Originally by: Leosian
Edited by: Leosian on 08/12/2005 00:57:45
Originally by: Julien Derida
I was just about to post something similar Vels. Leo, you're a better man than that post.
People change Jules. Memories don't. Neither does the truth.
Leo thats a lie there is several ways memory can change, be it amnesia (loss of memory)or false memory known as ... i forget but its there
Anyways Im just replying as that particular phrase i disagreed with...
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Leosian
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Posted - 2005.12.08 01:12:00 -
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Edited by: Leosian on 08/12/2005 01:12:26
Originally by: Julien Derida
Welcome to the ex-Sharks soap opera, live on Eve-O Corps & Alliances Forum! Tune in next week to see Miso return from the dead and reveal that Eyeshadow is really Jade Constantine's illegitimate son!
Yeah, cause the cool sharks all left because we enjoyed doing what we wanted to do.
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Purvy
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Posted - 2005.12.08 01:12:00 -
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Originally by: Julien Derida
Welcome to the ex-Sharks soap opera, live on Eve-O Corps & Alliances Forum! Tune in next week to see Miso return from the dead and reveal that Eyeshadow is really Jade Constantine's illegitimate son!
it all makes so much sense now! 
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Cabadrin
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Posted - 2005.12.08 01:18:00 -
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Next topic!
This one's gotten out of hand.
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Danks
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Posted - 2005.12.08 01:19:00 -
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Originally by: Julien Derida
Welcome to the ex-Sharks soap opera, live on Eve-O Corps & Alliances Forum! Tune in next week to see Miso return from the dead and reveal that Eyeshadow is really Jade Constantine's illegitimate son!
Seleene and Eyeshadow are my parents.
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Rabbitgod
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Posted - 2005.12.08 01:19:00 -
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Quote:
I dont know why i feel the need to justify my and the rest of the MC's actions to people, but i find you calling us loggers offensive
You don't need to justify yourself you made the right move and doing that will always **** the other guy off. When you see the enemy whine about your tactics then you know your are doing a good job. When you demoralize, humiliate, frustrate, harass, degrade, or do just about any other form psychological or emotional damage you are hurting the enimy or a level that wepons alone can not do.
The fact you got your guys out alive instead of doing a bonsai charge into impossible odds is good on many levels. Its show you know what you are doing. The people under you have more faith in you. And the enemy was denied a moral boost. The fact that they whining about it and throwing cheap smack talk is a good sign.
I would fly with you any day.
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Posted - 2005.12.08 01:23:00 -
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Originally by: Danks
Originally by: Julien Derida
Welcome to the ex-Sharks soap opera, live on Eve-O Corps & Alliances Forum! Tune in next week to see Miso return from the dead and reveal that Eyeshadow is really Jade Constantine's illegitimate son!
Seleene and Eyeshadow are my parents.
Danks, don't do this to me. You know I'm your father
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Hygelac
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Posted - 2005.12.08 01:26:00 -
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Search your feelings Danks, you know it to be true!
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Danks
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Posted - 2005.12.08 01:28:00 -
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Jules you couldn't possibly be my father. You were always sitting in a station fixing your hair while we were waiting for you to catch the hell up
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Rabbitgod
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Posted - 2005.12.08 01:30:00 -
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Edited by: Rabbitgod on 08/12/2005 01:30:17
And what all this father crap? I bonked all your moms! I am your daddy!
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Julien Derida
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Posted - 2005.12.08 01:31:00 -
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Originally by: Danks
Jules you couldn't possibly be my father. You were always sitting in a station fixing your hair while we were waiting for you to catch the hell up
Danks my boy, if I didn't do my hair then you wouldn't even be a twinkle in your mothers eye. Ladies have standards you know.
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Armetheus
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Posted - 2005.12.08 01:32:00 -
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Enough of the flaming.
Enough of the mud-slinging.
Keep it ingame, and not on the forums. I think we all know this thread had ran it's course very early on.
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