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destiny2
Abh Academy
Abh Alliance
154
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Posted - 2013.07.31 11:40:00 -
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So we all know the story of suicide gankers in their little high dps destroyers right? yes of course you do.
Yes looseing a 200 mill isk hulk to a 5 mill dessy isnt fun at all.  however their are ways to work around this to make it more painful for suicide gankers.
make a alt. with a sub works better to fly to the belt your mining in. in a rookie ship get it to shoot your exhummer.
Walla free concord in your belt your mining in.
Suicide gankers wont try and gank ya if concord is sitting there watching you mine. Unless they use smartbombs but then again that brings more concord in :).
OH well concord decided to leave my belt. oh okay, they left bring said alt in a rookie ship again and do it again so they come back.
ending result less people complaining about suicide gankers :).
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Riot Girl
Krypteia Operations
1428
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Posted - 2013.07.31 11:44:00 -
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It's kind of weird that suicide gankers get punished for avoiding the consequences of a gank, while miners are allowed to exploit game mechanics to protect themselves from the same consequences.
Oh god. |
Luci Ambrye
Center for Advanced Studies
Gallente Federation
3
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Posted - 2013.07.31 11:46:00 -
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doing the above as stated by the OP does not protect you against been ganked. |
William Walker
House Aratus
Fatal Ascension
162
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Posted - 2013.07.31 11:47:00 -
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The plot thickens...
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Tubrug1
Brave Newbies Inc.
Brave Collective
230
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Posted - 2013.07.31 11:48:00 -
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Then the ganker can use an alt or even his main to get rid of Concord... Good plan you've got there.
Writer of The Eve Onion
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destiny2
Abh Academy
Abh Alliance
154
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Posted - 2013.07.31 11:50:00 -
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Tubrug1 wrote:Then the ganker can use an alt or even his main to get rid of Concord... Good plan you've got there.
really ? lol. hrm. altho concord isnt going to swarm for just 1 ship lol. thats distracting them. theyd send about 2-3 tops unless you really make them mad, then you run away fast
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Thorn Galen
Bene Gesserit ChapterHouse
Sanctuary Pact
1245
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Posted - 2013.07.31 11:51:00 -
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destiny2 wrote:So we all know the story of suicide gankers in their little high dps destroyers right? yes of course you do. Yes looseing a 200 mill isk hulk to a 5 mill dessy isnt fun at all. however their are ways to work around this to make it more painful for suicide gankers. make a alt. with a sub works better to fly to the belt your mining in. in a rookie ship get it to shoot your exhummer. Walla free concord in your belt your mining in. Suicide gankers wont try and gank ya if concord is sitting there watching you mine. Unless they use smartbombs but then again that brings more concord in :). OH well concord decided to leave my belt. oh okay, they left bring said alt in a rookie ship again and do it again so they come back. ending result less people complaining about suicide gankers :).
You must be new here.
Personnel Division Director - Bene Gesserit Chapterhouse
CEO Sanctuary Pact Alliance --áSanctuary Pact |
Frostys Virpio
Lame Corp Name
589
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Posted - 2013.07.31 11:51:00 -
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Riot Girl wrote:It's kind of weird that suicide gankers get punished for avoiding the consequences of a gank, while miners are allowed to exploit game mechanics to protect themselves from the same consequences.
How do you get punished for pulling concord away using the exact same tactic? You can even use it with the same account insetad of having to log-in a second account. |
Maaaaowm Ogeko
Pator Tech School
Minmatar Republic
2
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Posted - 2013.07.31 11:51:00 -
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Probably shouldn't have posted this on your main, good sir, now every suicide ganker in the game will be out to make sure you get taken down and thus proven wrong ...
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Tauranon
Weeesearch
212
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Posted - 2013.07.31 11:52:00 -
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As far as I understood, trying to pre-position concord to "protect" yourself is petitionable, but calling concord off isn't.
The purpose of Concord is not to protect your ship, its to take the aggressors ship.
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Dring Dingle
Polaris Rising
Gentlemen's Agreement
46
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Posted - 2013.07.31 11:53:00 -
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Seen guys do this for a couple of years now. i think its fair. |
destiny2
Abh Academy
Abh Alliance
154
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Posted - 2013.07.31 11:54:00 -
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Maaaaowm Ogeko wrote:Probably shouldn't have posted this on your main, good sir, now every suicide ganker in the game will be out to make sure you get taken down and thus proven wrong ...
I welcome that with open arms actually. Not affraid of looseing ships just a game to me :). and i can get more plexes anytime :)
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Abyss Azizora
Sarum Prime Syndicate Group
Paper Alliance
42
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Posted - 2013.07.31 11:56:00 -
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Luci Ambrye wrote:doing the above as stated by the OP does not protect you against been ganked.
What this guy said, it does make it to where the suicide gankers have to bring more alpha damage to gank you, but it doesn't in any way |
destiny2
Abh Academy
Abh Alliance
154
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Posted - 2013.07.31 11:56:00 -
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Thorn Galen wrote:destiny2 wrote:So we all know the story of suicide gankers in their little high dps destroyers right? yes of course you do. Yes looseing a 200 mill isk hulk to a 5 mill dessy isnt fun at all. however their are ways to work around this to make it more painful for suicide gankers. make a alt. with a sub works better to fly to the belt your mining in. in a rookie ship get it to shoot your exhummer. Walla free concord in your belt your mining in. Suicide gankers wont try and gank ya if concord is sitting there watching you mine. Unless they use smartbombs but then again that brings more concord in :). OH well concord decided to leave my belt. oh okay, they left bring said alt in a rookie ship again and do it again so they come back. ending result less people complaining about suicide gankers :). You must be new here.
Yeah, totally never lost a exhummer or mining barge. in my 5 years to suicide gankers. Yeah so totaly new here.
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Hershman
Creepers Corporation
Creepers Alliance
222
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Posted - 2013.07.31 11:56:00 -
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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wnhTbAWmNKA
happens to me all the time. i always thought it was funny 
I play EVE every night! Follow me at http://www.twitch.tv/matthershman |
Grauth Thorner
Viziam
Amarr Empire
128
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Posted - 2013.07.31 11:58:00 -
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Frostys Virpio wrote:Riot Girl wrote:It's kind of weird that suicide gankers get punished for avoiding the consequences of a gank, while miners are allowed to exploit game mechanics to protect themselves from the same consequences. How do you get punished for pulling concord away using the exact same tactic? You can even use it with the same account insetad of having to log-in a second account.
Pulling them away doesn't get you punished, avoiding the consequences of a gank however does. Meaning that you enable yourself to flee from concord before your ship is in the same state at the ship you just ganked (blown to pieces).
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Bok Molkar
2
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Posted - 2013.07.31 11:59:00 -
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Honestly, if you lose a hulk in High Sec to a ganker, you deserve it. I've lost one barge due to being AFK getting a blowjob. And after that I activated my killrights and popped his catalyst and 237M pod. Learn how to defend your ships.
LOL for real though, CONCORD helps you in like 5 seconds. Quit losing ships. Train other skills! |
Jonah Gravenstein
Matah Kagmi Designs
11340
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Posted - 2013.07.31 11:59:00 -
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destiny2 wrote:So we all know the story of suicide gankers in their little high dps destroyers right? yes of course you do. Yes looseing a 200 mill isk hulk to a 5 mill dessy isnt fun at all. however their are ways to work around this to make it more painful for suicide gankers. make a alt. with a sub works better to fly to the belt your mining in. in a rookie ship get it to shoot your exhummer. Walla free concord in your belt your mining in. Suicide gankers wont try and gank ya if concord is sitting there watching you mine. Unless they use smartbombs but then again that brings more concord in :). OH well concord decided to leave my belt. oh okay, they left bring said alt in a rookie ship again and do it again so they come back. ending result less people complaining about suicide gankers :).
I have a simpler solution, fit a damn tank that doesn't consist of a civilian shield booster. Spawning Concord in your belt won't help at all, because the first thing a suicide ganker is going to do is make them spawn elsewhere.
Bullshit is a greater enemy of the truth than lies are ~ Harry G. Frankfurt |
Felicity Love
Whore and Peace
774
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Posted - 2013.07.31 12:00:00 -
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destiny2 wrote:
Suicide gankers wont try and gank ya if concord is sitting there watching you mine. Unless they use smartbombs but then again that brings more concord in :).
OH well concord decided to leave my belt. oh okay, they left bring said alt in a rookie ship again and do it again so they come back.
ending result less people complaining about suicide gankers :).
Good job we'll be war-dec'ing you soon then... and "walla"... you won't even need that Alt to conjur up some invisible friends from CONCORD ...
Proud Beta Tester for "Bumping Uglies for Dummies" |
Riot Girl
Krypteia Operations
1428
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Posted - 2013.07.31 12:00:00 -
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Abyss Azizora wrote:Luci Ambrye wrote:doing the above as stated by the OP does not protect you against been ganked. What this guy said, it does make it to where the suicide gankers have to bring more alpha damage to gank you, but it doesn't in any way "prevent" being ganked.
It gives the miner more tank which means they have more protection.
Oh god. |
Steve Ronuken
Fuzzwork Enterprises
1752
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Posted - 2013.07.31 12:01:00 -
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Is it wrong to want to murder people who say 'walla'?
It's voil+á (voila being acceptable, for people who don't use accented characters day in day out)
 Just a pet hate. Similar to that for people who could care less.
Steve Ronuken for CSM 9!-á I'm starting early :)
Handy tools and an SDE conversion
Twitter: @fuzzysteve on Twitter |
destiny2
Abh Academy
Abh Alliance
154
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Posted - 2013.07.31 12:03:00 -
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Felicity Love wrote:destiny2 wrote:
Suicide gankers wont try and gank ya if concord is sitting there watching you mine. Unless they use smartbombs but then again that brings more concord in :).
OH well concord decided to leave my belt. oh okay, they left bring said alt in a rookie ship again and do it again so they come back.
ending result less people complaining about suicide gankers :).
Good job we'll be war-dec'ing you soon then... and "walla"... you won't even need that Alt to conjur up some invisible friends from CONCORD ...
War dec zomg oh no what will i do the highsec kittys are gonna show their claws cause of 1 post LOL!.
you just made my day
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Lynxwire
Federal Navy Academy
Gallente Federation
0
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Posted - 2013.07.31 12:07:00 -
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This sounds like too much work |
destiny2
Abh Academy
Abh Alliance
155
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Posted - 2013.07.31 12:09:00 -
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Steve Ronuken wrote:Is it wrong to want to murder people who say 'walla'? It's voil+á (voila being acceptable, for people who don't use accented characters day in day out) Just a pet hate. Similar to that for people who could care less.
murdering people in low and null is usually more fun. :).
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dexington
Caldari Provisions
Caldari State
741
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Posted - 2013.07.31 12:10:00 -
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Jonah Gravenstein wrote:I have a simpler solution, fit a damn tank...
When dealing with miners using logic is a waste of time, you are dealing with people who think losing 200M in ships to make 50M is good idea.
Unless you come up with some crackpot theory where they can mine in a paper hulk they will not listen, and when it fail miserably they run to the forums *****, whine and scream for everything to get nerfed.
I'm a relatively respectable citizen. Multiple felon perhaps, but certainly not dangerous. |
Tippia
Sunshine and Lollipops
15832
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Posted - 2013.07.31 12:13:00 -
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Steve Ronuken wrote:Is it wrong to want to murder people who say 'walla'? GǪand that's probably one of the smallest problems with the OP's post.
Oh, and no, manipulating CONCORD GÇö be it by pre-spawning or by moving them off-grid GÇö is not against the rules. Both sides are allowed to use it to their hearts' content.
GÇ£If you're not willing to fight for what you have in GëívGëí you don't deserve it, and you will lose it.GÇ¥
Get a good start: newbie skill plan 2.0. |
Lexar Mundi
Aperture Harmonics
K162
59
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Posted - 2013.07.31 12:14:00 -
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destiny2 wrote:So we all know the story of suicide gankers in their little high dps destroyers right? yes of course you do. Yes looseing a 200 mill isk hulk to a 5 mill dessy isnt fun at all. however their are ways to work around this to make it more painful for suicide gankers. make a alt. with a sub works better to fly to the belt your mining in. in a rookie ship get it to shoot your exhummer. Walla free concord in your belt your mining in. Suicide gankers wont try and gank ya if concord is sitting there watching you mine. Unless they use smartbombs but then again that brings more concord in :). OH well concord decided to leave my belt. oh okay, they left bring said alt in a rookie ship again and do it again so they come back. ending result less people complaining about suicide gankers :).
lmao this is so funny.
So you are saying use an alt to get concord into your belt, and you are telling every miner to do so.
Do you realize concord will warp away from your mining ship the next time some miner in the same system shoots his ship with a noob ship. You miners will be fighting over concord more than mining. This is laughable.
Why not teach them now to tank their ships so it takes more than one dessy to kill their mining ship? Hulks are WAY too easy to gank. I don't know why people still use Hulks these days. Use tanked Macks! The only situation I can see a Hulk being of any use is when you have 8 or more accounts. Otherwise it's better to have another miner in a Mack over an orca hauling for just a few hulks. |
Jonah Gravenstein
Matah Kagmi Designs
11340
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Posted - 2013.07.31 12:15:00 -
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dexington wrote:Jonah Gravenstein wrote:I have a simpler solution, fit a damn tank... When dealing with miners using logic is a waste of time, you are dealing with people who think losing 200M in ships to make 50M is good idea. Unless you come up with some crackpot theory where they can mine in a paper hulk they will not listen, and when it fail miserably they run to the forums *****, whine and scream for everything to get nerfed.
The miner rehabilitation program has a 99% failure rate, the people that pass actually fit a tank, and mine at the keyboard.
Bullshit is a greater enemy of the truth than lies are ~ Harry G. Frankfurt |
Steve Ronuken
Fuzzwork Enterprises
1752
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Posted - 2013.07.31 12:17:00 -
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I like my Skiff, for those odd occasions I hit a grav site.  Not quite fit for max tank, but 70k ehp is enough to discourage most gankers. (nothing can discourage all)
Steve Ronuken for CSM 9!-á I'm starting early :)
Handy tools and an SDE conversion
Twitter: @fuzzysteve on Twitter |
destiny2
Abh Academy
Abh Alliance
155
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Posted - 2013.07.31 12:19:00 -
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Lexar Mundi wrote:destiny2 wrote:So we all know the story of suicide gankers in their little high dps destroyers right? yes of course you do. Yes looseing a 200 mill isk hulk to a 5 mill dessy isnt fun at all. however their are ways to work around this to make it more painful for suicide gankers. make a alt. with a sub works better to fly to the belt your mining in. in a rookie ship get it to shoot your exhummer. Walla free concord in your belt your mining in. Suicide gankers wont try and gank ya if concord is sitting there watching you mine. Unless they use smartbombs but then again that brings more concord in :). OH well concord decided to leave my belt. oh okay, they left bring said alt in a rookie ship again and do it again so they come back. ending result less people complaining about suicide gankers :). lmao this is so funny. So you are saying use an alt to get concord into your belt, and you are telling every miner to do so. Do you realize concord will warp away from your mining ship the next time some miner in the same system shoots his ship with a noob ship. You miners will be fighting over concord more than mining. This is laughable. Why not teach them now to tank their ships so it takes more than one dessy to kill their mining ship? Hulks are WAY too easy to gank. I don't know why people still use Hulks these days. Use tanked Macks! The only situation I can see a Hulk being of any use is when you have 8 or more accounts. Otherwise it's better to have another miner in a Mack over an orca hauling for just a few hulks.
70% of the miners dont even read the forums. lol. so thats 70% who like looseing ships lol. |
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