The miner rehabilitation program has a 99% failure rate, the people that pass actually fit a tank, and mine at the keyboard.

How do you get punished for pulling concord away using the exact same tactic? You can even use it with the same account insetad of having to log-in a second account.

It's an unsatisfactory solution. For that to work, gankers would have to be given a sec reward for podding miners in high sec.

I am also not sure if you took that "idea" as serious but I hope not.

So we all know the story of suicide gankers in their little high dps destroyers right? yes of course you do.
Yes looseing a 200 mill isk hulk to a 5 mill dessy isnt fun at all. however their are ways to work around this to make it more painful for suicide gankers.


make a alt. with a sub works better to fly to the belt your mining in. in a rookie ship get it to shoot your exhummer.

Walla free concord in your belt your mining in.

Suicide gankers wont try and gank ya if concord is sitting there watching you mine. Unless they use smartbombs but then again that brings more concord in :).

OH well concord decided to leave my belt. oh okay, they left bring said alt in a rookie ship again and do it again so they come back.


ending result less people complaining about suicide gankers :).

Good job we'll be war-dec'ing you soon then... and "walla"... you won't even need that Alt to conjur up some invisible friends from CONCORD ...

I see a lot of references to a solo dessy ganking mining barges.

Even a T2 Cat can't solo gank an untanked Ret flown by a skilled pilot in .7 space or above. It takes more than 1.

I see a lot of references to a solo dessy ganking mining barges.

Even a T2 Cat can't solo gank an untanked Ret flown by a skilled pilot in .7 space or above. It takes more than 1.

How to make ganker's job even more annoying? Well...

Put your alt into this:

[Scimitar, healer]

Capacitor Power Relay II
Capacitor Power Relay II
Capacitor Power Relay II
Capacitor Power Relay II

10MN Afterburner II
Large Shield Extender II
Adaptive Invulnerability Field II
Adaptive Invulnerability Field II
Kinetic Deflection Amplifier II

Large S95a Partial Shield Transporter
Large S95a Partial Shield Transporter
Large S95a Partial Shield Transporter
Large S95a Partial Shield Transporter

Medium Ancillary Current Router I
Medium Ancillary Current Router I


Heavy Armor Maintenance Bot II x1
Medium Armor Maintenance Bot II x1
Light Armor Maintenance Bot II x2

[quote=Tobias Hareka]How to make ganker's job even more annoying? Well...

Put your alt into this:

[Scimitar fit]

And at that point they just kill your Scimitar alt and your barge/exhumer by bringing friends.

So we all know the story of suicide gankers in their little high dps destroyers right? yes of course you do.
Yes looseing a 200 mill isk hulk to a 5 mill dessy isnt fun at all. however their are ways to work around this to make it more painful for suicide gankers.


make a alt. with a sub works better to fly to the belt your mining in. in a rookie ship get it to shoot your exhummer.

Walla free concord in your belt your mining in.

Suicide gankers wont try and gank ya if concord is sitting there watching you mine. Unless they use smartbombs but then again that brings more concord in :).

OH well concord decided to leave my belt. oh okay, they left bring said alt in a rookie ship again and do it again so they come back.


ending result less people complaining about suicide gankers :).

And at that point they just kill your Scimitar alt instead.

really ? lol. hrm. altho concord isnt going to swarm for just 1 ship lol. thats distracting them. theyd send about 2-3 tops unless you really make them mad, then you run away fast

So we all know the story of suicide gankers in their little high dps destroyers right? yes of course you do.
Yes looseing a 200 mill isk hulk to a 5 mill dessy isnt fun at all.

Sensible things

And your point is? Getting miners to engage with the game is James' thing, but using T2 Cruisers to fight gankers is silly.

Griffins or bust.

OP:

And when your alt's sec status is so low he can't undock anymore, what then? Remember that biomassing alts just to get rid of sec status is a no no according to CCP...

It's quite possible to keep doing it as a -10 forever, never needing to recycle anything, just marginally inconvenient.

It is however not unfair though.
Few point to be made:

1: The Hulk is made to make isk, by mining lots of ore, it will make its money back in less than a day ( if you know what you're doing )
2: The Dessy is a ship, made to gank stuff with, it MIGHT make it's money back in a day, but it is not very likely ( you are unable do do stuff for a few minutes and you need to build a new one, after which you can only hope that wreck is still there, for you to make some money on ).

What the difference between a ganker "manipulating" an already spawned concord by moving him out of grid by undocking in his Ibis from to get a better dps uptime on the next target from an alt "manipulating the already spawned condord to move it on grid in the belt?

How do you know I am not only an idiot trying to gank a miner in an Ibis?

Is it wrong to want to murder people who say 'walla'?

It's voil+á (voila being acceptable, for people who don't use accented characters day in day out)

Just a pet hate. Similar to that for people who could care less.

doing the above as stated by the OP does not protect you against been ganked.

I like my Skiff, for those odd occasions I hit a grav site. Not quite fit for max tank, but 70k ehp is enough to discourage most gankers. (nothing can discourage all)

Curious if a "tanky" Procurer in low sec belts would be a deterrent for ganking or does the luxury of low sec allow swarms of people just to get that Procurer?

And at that point they just kill your Scimitar alt instead.

Curious if a "tanky" Procurer in low sec belts would be a deterrent for ganking or does the luxury of low sec allow swarms of people just to get that Procurer?