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CCP Rise
C C P C C P Alliance
2128
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Posted - 2013.08.08 13:14:00 -
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We are obviously aware of the conversation around drone assist and this change doesn't really aim to have a massive effect on sentry-doctrines as a whole. Drone assist is a much larger issue and we aren't looking to make any changes to it for 1.1. We would love to do work on drones overall, but for now I can't make any promises about when that will happen or how it will look. |
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Harvey James
Deep Core Mining Inc. Caldari State
439
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Posted - 2013.08.08 13:17:00 -
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Omnathious Deninard wrote:Harvey James will be pleased.
I don't know what you're talking about Tech 3's need to be multi role ships not cruiser hulls with battleship tank and insane resists ABC's are clearly T2 in all but name AB's need a buff-á like a big mass reduction ... module tiercide FTW role based instead of tiers please. |
GallowsCalibrator
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
360
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Posted - 2013.08.08 13:17:00 -
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Malcanis wrote:Cameron Zero wrote:mynnna wrote:Anharat wrote:>has nothing to do with the tournament >publishes the change right after the tournament seems legit If I could place a bounty on you for this awful post, I would. You CAN place a bounty on them. Sad you can't put a detail as to why, though. (Y'all are on the CSM, "fix it!") Also, I thought Goons were the kings of tinfoil hattery, or is that just everyone else? Mynnna is I think referring to the much requested, long awaited forum feature whereby you can bounty someone directly through the forum itself.
You both need to raise this every day, forever.
The Dominix change seems pretty sensible to me, and they're still going to be nasty, just not quite so. (Remember how in the T1 BS changes thread people said that no-one would ever fly a Dominix over a Geddon?)
Quote: So Dominix and Ishtar will have the exact same bonuses on their sentries and also have the same drone bay? That seems a little... weird. Shouldn't a battleship have a higher raw damage output?
The Dominix is fatter, has more EHP and has room for bigger guns/large reps. Gives it staying power. |
Harvey James
Deep Core Mining Inc. Caldari State
439
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Posted - 2013.08.08 13:19:00 -
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Terrorfrodo wrote:So Dominix and Ishtar will have the exact same bonuses on their sentries and also have the same drone bay? That seems a little... weird. Shouldn't a battleship have a higher raw damage output?
Not that I'm complaining... new Ishtar looks delicious. But as always, battleships get the short straw again.
You can put 6 guns on a Domi compared to 4 medium guns on an ishtar so... if i add it up ... oh yes Domi still wins :) Tech 3's need to be multi role ships not cruiser hulls with battleship tank and insane resists ABC's are clearly T2 in all but name AB's need a buff-á like a big mass reduction ... module tiercide FTW role based instead of tiers please. |
Cameron Zero
Red Federation
202
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Posted - 2013.08.08 13:23:00 -
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Malcanis wrote:Cameron Zero wrote:mynnna wrote:Anharat wrote:>has nothing to do with the tournament >publishes the change right after the tournament seems legit If I could place a bounty on you for this awful post, I would. You CAN place a bounty on them. Sad you can't put a detail as to why, though. (Y'all are on the CSM, "fix it!") Also, I thought Goons were the kings of tinfoil hattery, or is that just everyone else? Mynnna is I think referring to the much requested, long awaited forum feature whereby you can bounty someone directly through the forum itself.
I fully support and/or endorse that product and/or service.
Bounties from the forum? YES PLEASE! :D "I've seen things you people wouldn't believe. Attack ships on fire off the shoulder of Orion. I watched C-beams glitter in the dark near the Tannhauser Gate. All those moments will be lost in time, like tears in rain. GǪ" |
Mag's
the united Negative Ten.
15361
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Posted - 2013.08.08 13:25:00 -
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Anharat wrote:
The only correct plural form for bonus, that doesn't make you look like an uncivilized barbarian, is boni.
I see what you did there.
Destination SkillQueue:- It's like assuming the lions will ignore you in the savannah, if you're small, fat and look helpless. |
Zor'katar
Matari Recreation
156
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Posted - 2013.08.08 13:25:00 -
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Malcanis wrote:Hell ***** wrote: bonus's (boni, i know) NO! The plural of bonus is bonuses Anyone who tells you otherwise is an uneducated pretentious idiot. I love how her name is apparently allowed in the game (so far, at least), but not on the forums. |
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CCP Rise
C C P C C P Alliance
2128
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Posted - 2013.08.08 13:25:00 -
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Quote: (Remember how in the T1 BS changes thread people said that no-one would ever fly a Dominix over a Geddon?)
Glad someone else remembers this =) |
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Anharat
Cutting Edge Incorporated RAZOR Alliance
1
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Posted - 2013.08.08 13:25:00 -
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CCP Rise wrote: Drone assist is a much larger issue and we aren't looking to make any changes to it for 1.1. .
This is disappointing. Time to up my media library so i can watch movies while my sentry boat shoots what the FC points at for the next year.
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Kyt Thrace
Lightspeed Enterprises Fidelas Constans
262
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Posted - 2013.08.08 13:25:00 -
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Darn, just when I finished training for Domi's, wham I get hit with the nerf bat.
R.I.P. Vile Rat |
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Malcanis
Vanishing Point. The Initiative.
11189
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Posted - 2013.08.08 13:29:00 -
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Kyt Thrace wrote:Darn, just when I finished training for Domi's, wham I get hit with the nerf bat.
They're still pretty incredible.
1 Kings 12:11
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Hannott Thanos
Notorious Legion
658
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Posted - 2013.08.08 13:33:00 -
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Malcanis wrote:Hell ***** wrote: bonus's (boni, i know) NO! The plural of bonus is bonuses Anyone who tells you otherwise is an uneducated pretentious idiot. This so much. Malcanis for CSM! Wait..
Every plural word ending in 'i' probably has a way to spell it that doesn't make you look like a pretentious idiot. Octopuses/octopodes, bonuses etc.
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Anharat
Cutting Edge Incorporated RAZOR Alliance
2
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Posted - 2013.08.08 13:35:00 -
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Hannott Thanos wrote:Malcanis wrote:Hell ***** wrote: bonus's (boni, i know) NO! The plural of bonus is bonuses Anyone who tells you otherwise is an uneducated pretentious idiot. This so much. Malcanis for CSM! Wait.. Every plural word ending in 'i' probably has a way to spell it that doesn't make you look like a pretentious idiot. Octopuses/octopodes, bonuses etc.
Only because different forms get accepted by dictionaries and the general population over time doesn't change the fact that the word isn't declined like that. There are many accepted forms but only one correct one. |
Malcanis
Vanishing Point. The Initiative.
11189
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Posted - 2013.08.08 13:36:00 -
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Hannott Thanos wrote:Malcanis wrote:Hell ***** wrote: bonus's (boni, i know) NO! The plural of bonus is bonuses Anyone who tells you otherwise is an uneducated pretentious idiot. This so much. Malcanis for CSM! Wait.. Every plural word ending in 'i' probably has a way to spell it that doesn't make you look like a pretentious idiot. Octopuses/octopodes, bonuses etc.
For some words it is correct. Bonus is not one of them.
1 Kings 12:11
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Hannott Thanos
Notorious Legion
658
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Posted - 2013.08.08 13:38:00 -
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Malcanis wrote: For some words it is correct. Bonus is not one of them.
Yeah that was my point. Maybe I worded it poorly. |
Chi'Nane T'Kal
Interminatus Aeterna Anima
133
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Posted - 2013.08.08 13:40:00 -
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Malcanis wrote:Hell ***** wrote: bonus's (boni, i know) NO! The plural of bonus is bonuses Anyone who tells you otherwise is an uneducated pretentious idiot.
Actually one should think, that the 'idiot' party in that case is the target audience for using the EASIER as opposed to the CORRECT declension of a word that was taken from latin. |
Harvey James
Deep Core Mining Inc. Caldari State
439
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Posted - 2013.08.08 13:40:00 -
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so sentries on the cutting board next then RISE Tech 3's need to be multi role ships not cruiser hulls with battleship tank and insane resists ABC's are clearly T2 in all but name AB's need a buff-á like a big mass reduction ... module tiercide FTW role based instead of tiers please. |
War Kitten
Panda McLegion
2535
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Posted - 2013.08.08 13:45:00 -
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CCP Rise wrote:Quote: (Remember how in the T1 BS changes thread people said that no-one would ever fly a Dominix over a Geddon?) Glad someone else remembers this =)
Some people just don't see a good thing when it comes their way. Obviously the theory-crafters and drone lovers saw it for what it was, and it dominated the tournament comps.
It's good to see CCP on the ball with balancing changes though. WInmatar had OP kiting and range for years. Dominix FOTM only lasts a couple months.
BTW, when is Odyssey 1.1 coming out anyway? Summer is waning and Winter expansion time approacheth.
I find that without a good mob to provide one for them, most people would have no mentality at all. |
Harvey James
Deep Core Mining Inc. Caldari State
439
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Posted - 2013.08.08 13:45:00 -
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Any plans on improving any other battleship or any of the bc's perhaps? Tempest certainly needs help .. Abbadon needs some cap Rokh could do with being more mobile to allow for decent blaster boats .. not that caldari seem to be allowed any... Drake is still epically better than the ferox Maelstrom still makes no sense a fleet ship with active tank bonus .. but has no mobility to small gang utilize active tank Tech 3's need to be multi role ships not cruiser hulls with battleship tank and insane resists ABC's are clearly T2 in all but name AB's need a buff-á like a big mass reduction ... module tiercide FTW role based instead of tiers please. |
Bakuhz
The Horny Heron's Space Immigration
105
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Posted - 2013.08.08 13:46:00 -
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CCP Rise wrote:We are going to put a small change in for 1.1:
Dominix's drone tracking and optimal range bonus lowered from 10% per level to 7.5% per level.
This brings the bonus in line with all other damage application bonuses we give, such as turret tracking bonuses or missile explosion velocity/radius bonuses. The Dominix hasn't been oppressively powerful but it is extremely strong and there is no need for the over-allocation with regards to this bonus.
In case some of you think this is a reaction to the way the Domi performed in the alliance tournament, I can tell you that we will never make balance decisions based on that environment. The tournament certainly highlighted the strengths of sentry drones and damps, which are both powerful on TQ as well, but it removed many of their drawbacks and so it is not an effective way to assess balance or power in normal EVE.
nothing to worry they will still perform pretty well http://tnoh.eve-kill.net/?a=pilot_detail&plt_id=576554
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Victor Rayl
Hedion University Amarr Empire
1
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Posted - 2013.08.08 13:46:00 -
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I like how the debate shifted into specifics of the English language. Apparently no one minds the nerf too much, or we would have seen more rage by now. |
Kyt Thrace
Lightspeed Enterprises Fidelas Constans
262
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Posted - 2013.08.08 13:51:00 -
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Malcanis wrote:Kyt Thrace wrote:Darn, just when I finished training for Domi's, wham I get hit with the nerf bat.
They're still pretty fugly.
Corrected for you, Malcanis. R.I.P. Vile Rat |
Kirimeena D'Zbrkesbris
Republic Military Tax Avoiders
262
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Posted - 2013.08.08 13:56:00 -
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Anharat wrote:Sephira Galamore wrote:Hell ***** wrote:Malcanis wrote:Hell ***** wrote: bonus's (boni, i know) NO! The plural of bonus is bonuses Anyone who tells you otherwise is an uneducated pretentious idiot. I couldn't agree more, but this is the EVE forums, with more trolls than a Tolkien novel. And I just realized we have _three_ valid plurals for bonus in German... Seems to be the general attitude lately, allowing more spellings to reduce mistakes -.- The only correct plural form for bonus, that doesn't make you look like an uncivilized barbarian, is boni. Now that creates a dilemma. What is better to pretend to be: uneducated pretentious idiot with boni or uncivilized barbarian with anything but boni? Opinions are like assholes. Everybody's got one and everyone thinks everyone else's stinks. |
Malcanis
Vanishing Point. The Initiative.
11191
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Posted - 2013.08.08 13:56:00 -
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Kyt Thrace wrote:Malcanis wrote:Kyt Thrace wrote:Darn, just when I finished training for Domi's, wham I get hit with the nerf bat.
They're still pretty fugly. Corrected for you, Malcanis.
I kind a sorta quite like the aesthetic of the Domi
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Garviel Tarrant
Beyond Divinity Inc Shadow Cartel
1312
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Posted - 2013.08.08 14:02:00 -
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CCP Rise wrote:Quote: (Remember how in the T1 BS changes thread people said that no-one would ever fly a Dominix over a Geddon?) Glad someone else remembers this =)
People tend to be a bit awful. BYDI recruitment closed-ish |
Vladimir Norkoff
Income Redistribution Service
230
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Posted - 2013.08.08 14:02:00 -
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CCP Rise wrote:We would love to do work on drones overall, but for now I can't make any promises about when that will happen or how it will look. CCP has been saying this for a long long long time. |
Maximus Andendare
Future Corps Sleeper Social Club
420
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Posted - 2013.08.08 14:03:00 -
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CCP Rise wrote:We are obviously aware of the conversation around drone assist and this change doesn't really aim to have a massive effect on sentry-doctrines as a whole. Drone assist is a much larger issue and we aren't looking to make any changes to it for 1.1. We would love to do work on drones overall, but for now I can't make any promises about when that will happen or how it will look. I thought Ytterbium was working on drone something or other...
Step onto the battlefield, and you're already dead, born again at the end of the battle to live on and fight another day. |
mynnna
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
1453
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Posted - 2013.08.08 14:14:00 -
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Cameron Zero wrote:mynnna wrote:Anharat wrote:>has nothing to do with the tournament >publishes the change right after the tournament seems legit If I could place a bounty on you for this awful post, I would. You CAN place a bounty on them. Sad you can't put a detail as to why, though. (Y'all are on the CSM, "fix it!") Also, I thought Goons were the kings of tinfoil hattery, or is that just everyone else? Naturally, I meant that if the forums had an add bounty button, I would use it on him. I'm not sure I can be bothered to actually log in for it though. Member of the Goonswarm Economic Warfare Cabal |
Harvey James
Deep Core Mining Inc. Caldari State
439
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Posted - 2013.08.08 14:15:00 -
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RISE
so how about the Geddon neut bonus? too strong? or ok? Tech 3's need to be multi role ships not cruiser hulls with battleship tank and insane resists ABC's are clearly T2 in all but name AB's need a buff-á like a big mass reduction ... module tiercide FTW role based instead of tiers please. |
Harvey James
Deep Core Mining Inc. Caldari State
439
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Posted - 2013.08.08 14:17:00 -
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How about nerfing Minmatar T2 base resists as they have a higher base amount? Tech 3's need to be multi role ships not cruiser hulls with battleship tank and insane resists ABC's are clearly T2 in all but name AB's need a buff-á like a big mass reduction ... module tiercide FTW role based instead of tiers please. |
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