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Pedro Sangre
Brutor Tribe
Minmatar Republic
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Posted - 2014.06.03 15:08:00 -
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Post-Kronos deployment: Just got a freeze during warp.
It's still with us, guys. |
William Darkk
GoonWaffe
Goonswarm Federation
24
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Posted - 2014.06.03 17:51:00 -
[662] - Quote
At least this character seems immune to it. I wish there was a way to test characters for it on the character bazzar, I'd sell my freezing character and buy a new one. |
prognano
State War Academy
Caldari State
0
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Posted - 2014.06.05 10:30:00 -
[663] - Quote
Had this issue for years on all my macs. Frequency comes and goes, some patches crashes more than others but its always there. At least once a day and currently every 30 minutes. Usually when i quit another client start a new one. sometimes one client crashes. sometimes all of them
Its obvious from a 4 year old thread over 28 pages that this will never be fixed. Sad |
Pedro Sangre
Brutor Tribe
Minmatar Republic
0
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Posted - 2014.06.05 15:00:00 -
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I was hopeful this time but even if it seems to be freezing much less often than a couple years ago when I unsubbed because it was plain unplayable because of it, it's still not acceptable.
I'm a dev, I know how heisenbugs like that one are hard to track and fix but my only reasonable action at this point is unsubbing again until this issue is finally fixed. |
Frightstar
Rolling Static
Gone Critical
0
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Posted - 2014.06.07 00:58:00 -
[665] - Quote
In fact i would say im getting the lock ups *more* then pre-kronos =/ Especially when running multiple clients. |
Quetz Alkoatl
The Scope
Gallente Federation
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Posted - 2014.06.07 23:05:00 -
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Lo and behold - Kronos arrived. And yet the more EVE changes the more it stays the same. I'd hoped that these issues what were haunting most of us would go away. Unfortunately - they did not :(
New client - new hope. When I think of all of you who has been playing for years like this I feel discouraged. And here I thought that my dissatisfaction with this situation was something special. Now I am angry mostly at myself, in one part for letting myself believe, also for spending 2500$ on my Mac set-up and not being able to enjoy it. Subscribed for this month - I feel June will be my last month of playing EVE. Though masochism is not my foe.
Thank gods I have Wurm online. There I find serenity and peace of mind. Cutting, chopping, sawing, building, digging, mining, planting, growing, fixing, mending - where the main problem is what to eat for dinner.
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Ajoli Loken
Black Fox Marauders
Repeat 0ffenders
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Posted - 2014.06.08 01:49:00 -
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Quetz Alkoatl wrote:Lo and behold - Kronos arrived. And yet the more EVE changes the more it stays the same. I'd hoped that these issues what were haunting most of us would go away. Unfortunately - they did not :(
New client - new hope. When I think of all of you who has been playing for years like this I feel discouraged. And here I thought that my dissatisfaction with this situation was something special. Now I am angry mostly at myself, in one part for letting myself believe, also for spending 2500$ on my Mac set-up and not being able to enjoy it. Subscribed for this month - I feel June will be my last month of playing EVE. Though masochism is not my foe.
Thank gods I have Wurm online. There I find serenity and peace of mind. Cutting, chopping, sawing, building, digging, mining, planting, growing, fixing, mending - where the main problem is what to eat for dinner.
Sadly I almost feel this way, but I have some stuff still to do in Eve until I am done for good.
I have just migrated to my PC side... which just like you, saddens me. I know this will be my last mac... for good. Just to much disappointment on the Mac side with great games.
My biggest issue is this... how come blizzard can make a SUPER AWESOME client for ALL of their games, and CCP has YET to get it smooth. It seems like a BETA on forever rather than an actual client. Hell ANET did a good job on their Cider...
Why can't CCP get it right? Is there not enough employees? Is there not enough Mac uses to justify the fixes? Is there no real intention on keeping the OSX "client" going after a while? Are you guys going to dump it? Do you even care?
These are questions that we are all thinking and asking. I am not mad, just sad. A great GREAT game, and I just so happen to LOVE OSX, but then you mash them together and BOOM! Awesomeness, but then... bugs, bugs bugs.
What makes CCP different from all the other companies that have OSX copies and work 100xs better? |
Mercuras
University of Caille
Gallente Federation
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Posted - 2014.06.08 05:21:00 -
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@Otaryo - you list the Graphics Intel HD Graphics 4000 as your graphics, but if you're running EVE on a MacBookPro, it has a second graphics system that's used for more demanding apps. To find it, you have to go to About this Mac and press More Info, and then press System Report followed by Selecting Hardware>Graphic Displays.
-Merc |
Mercuras
University of Caille
Gallente Federation
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Posted - 2014.06.08 05:29:00 -
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My original posting doesn't seem to have made it to this thread, so here's the gist.
Running OSX 10.9.3 on a MacBookPro10,1 (about a year old).
Client froze, requiring reboot, yesterday.
Today, client froze, requiring reboot, and OS X told me that EVE Online was damaged and should be thrown into the trash.
I'll have to download the whole client again, I guess.
There is a way through System Preferences to set the machine up to let you do a remote login using ssh from another machine, so that you can kill the client specifically without needing to reboot the machine. I'll be setting this up as soon as I'm done with this post.
Where does EVE put diagnostic output? It doesn't appear to wind up in any of the normal Console logs.
Thanks,
-Merc |
r33f4b
Ex Coelis
The Bantam Menace
0
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Posted - 2014.06.08 15:35:00 -
[670] - Quote
When the client freeze, you can generally just kill it using "CMD-OPTION-ESC". No need for reebot or ssh.
I'm starting to suspect that this is actually not a graphical bug but related to a UI blocking call that fails to complete because of a bug somewhere in wine. Possibly network related. |
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eTrust
The Veirzirian Brotherhood
The Methodical Alliance
0
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Posted - 2014.06.16 06:20:00 -
[671] - Quote
I'm getting this issue also, but usually when I alt-tab out and in a lot.
MacBook Air Late 2010, running on lowest graphics settings, windowed mode. |
Ale Space
Brave Newbies Inc.
Brave Collective
3
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Posted - 2014.06.18 23:13:00 -
[672] - Quote
I posted about the problem almost a year ago and they still haven't resolved the issue. The recent updates have made it worse. For all intents and purposes the OS X client is unusable and I don't believe that is going to change. |
Quetz Alkoatl
The Scope
Gallente Federation
1
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Posted - 2014.06.19 08:07:00 -
[673] - Quote
So every now and then I pop in EVE to see if anything has changed. And for the most part it did - the new graphics looks very nice, I really like what they did to the Stars and how they shine now. I enjoy the upgraded textures and blinking lights. It even seems that iMac runs EVE faster now.
The new content, i bet, is fantastic - unfortunately I can not experience it as the most important and crucial part - constant freezing - still persists.
And I tried again and again various settings, all those measures suggested by DEVs and ... nothing. So I decided to use another approach - to literally do nothing.
Installed a fresh EVE client, updated, logged in, chose my character, game loaded and I did absolutely nothing, not even moved a mouse, nor did I hit any key - just laid back listening to the awesomeness filling the room and waited almost sleeping.
And yes, finally, my patience was rewarded - game froze. 3 more times - exactly the same outcome. At the forth attempt I fell asleep and woke up after 8 hours - game was frozen  . Showered, dressed up and went to work. Average time from the start to the freeze - 15-20 minutes.
It makes no difference whether you warp, dock, open tables, etc. or do absolutely nothing - it still freezes.
So what can be the reason for it? I still do not understand how come test server was stable during the mass test a month ago and the TQ is so messed up. 
Quetz |
Ragnar D IX
Ayn Rand Corporation
3
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Posted - 2014.06.25 16:54:00 -
[674] - Quote
I am currently suffering a lockup or freeze at the 'Authenticating' screen. I have to do a hard shutdown, each time it happens. I filed a petition and they advised me to remove and reinstall the game. The problem persists.
I have now removed and reinstalled Eve Online twice in one week.. costing me about an hour each time of aggravation. Anyone have a workaround for this problem?
Is CCP going to fix this ? |
Adrion Vein
Why Is The Rum Gone Inc
0
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Posted - 2014.07.03 20:42:00 -
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I got frustrated enough with the constant freezing of the client that I went hunting for a solution.
The last few days, I've not had a single crash, lock up or freeze while playing nearly all day while working on my Retina Macbook Pro!
I made a quick video that shows and explains what I did and why, to resolve the constant freezing.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eUAdyPJtSZo
But, here's the basic instructions:
- Make Sure EVE Online Is Not Running
- Open Your Applications Folder
- Right Click Your EVE Online Icon And Choose "Show Package Contents"
- Navigate To Contents Then Resources
- Right Click On EVE Online Client
- Select Get Info
- Make Sure "App Nap" Is Checked
- Close Windows, Relaunch EVE Online
Disclaimer:
Your results may vary. This has resolved the stability issues for both myself and an iMac using friend. We've not had a single issue with client stability in the last 3 days, even when running 2-3 concurrent accounts on each system! However, variables such as your OS X version, hardware, or various levels of divine intervention may render this solution useless to you!
If it doesn't work, I'm sorry and hope that one day CCP will get their act together and fix the Mac client properly.
However, if it does work, please be sure to let your Mac Gaming brethren know so they can stop suffering! |
Ale Space
Brave Newbies Inc.
Brave Collective
5
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Posted - 2014.07.04 02:02:00 -
[676] - Quote
Adrion Vein wrote:I got frustrated enough with the constant freezing of the client that I went hunting for a solution. The last few days, I've not had a single crash, lock up or freeze while playing nearly all day while working on my Retina Macbook Pro! I made a quick video that shows and explains what I did and why, to resolve the constant freezing. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eUAdyPJtSZoBut, here's the basic instructions: - Make Sure EVE Online Is Not Running - Open Your Applications Folder - Right Click Your EVE Online Icon And Choose "Show Package Contents" - Navigate To Contents Then Resources - Right Click On EVE Online Client - Select Get Info - Make Sure "App Nap" Is Checked - Close Windows, Relaunch EVE Online Disclaimer: Your results may vary. This has resolved the stability issues for both myself and an iMac using friend. We've not had a single issue with client stability in the last 3 days, even when running 2-3 concurrent accounts on each system! However, variables such as your OS X version, hardware, or various levels of divine intervention may render this solution useless to you! If it doesn't work, I'm sorry and hope that one day CCP will get their act together and fix the Mac client properly. However, if it does work, please be sure to let your Mac Gaming brethren know so they can stop suffering!
I'm going to test this and report back. I sincerely hope this works and you'll have my eternal thanks if it does. |
Quetz Alkoatl
The Scope
Gallente Federation
2
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Posted - 2014.07.08 13:01:00 -
[677] - Quote
Hello,
Adrions suggested method did not work for me either.
The same old $#!% :(
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RadiantShadow
Covert Entry Violent Exit
0
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Posted - 2014.07.16 01:11:00 -
[678] - Quote
Same problem here, can't do anything useful. Can't complete missions, freeze ups are near constant. Never had this issue before. |
NorwegianDarkness
Stay Frosty.
A Band Apart.
0
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Posted - 2014.07.16 21:47:00 -
[679] - Quote
I've had problems today after the 16. july update - my client freezes up after about 20-30 mins. Weird thing is, this only happens on my low- and highsec characters, not my nullsec character (this character does not dock in nullsec). Maybe docked characters are the problem? |
grumpychops
Non Nobis
1
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Posted - 2014.07.18 13:18:00 -
[680] - Quote
This still happens to me as well. I run Eve on 2 different macs: an iMac and a MBP. I run my clients windowed and on low graphics setting. Often, I run 1-2 clients on the MBP and 1-6 clients on the iMac. I've been playing Eve since 2008 on Macs and this was never an issue in the past. I came back to Eve after a year break last year and all of a sudden I get the freeze bug. On the same computers I've been playing on without bugs. I have tried to trouble shoot the issue: I've run the eve repair tool, deleted and reinstalled, cleared cache, restarted, etc. I've tried it with different other apps open and closed, I've tried it with one client, and multiples. It seems COMPLETELY random. It happens in space, docked, null/high/low. I've also ran timers to see if it happens after a certain time. No common thread.
One interesting addition, is that since the last patch- I get a new freeze. If I'm running multiple clients on one computer and close one of the clients, the rest freeze and have to be force quit. This has never happened to me before. I had filed a petition in game last year and got absolutely zero help. The first level GM hadn't even heard of this bug before. It doesn't seem like this is even on CCP's radar. |
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Miccet
Fairlight Corp
Rooks and Kings
6
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Posted - 2014.07.18 14:55:00 -
[681] - Quote
I had high hopes for this issue getting solved when they announced the new Cider version for the Mac client. DX9 development is probably reaching EOL and so would the Mac client without an update to a new version of Cider. I thought it would make sense that the bug might be within Cider, since CCP can't fix that on their own (maybe with the exception of upgrading the version). I guess I was wrong because the issue is still there.
I've had the same issue since Incursion / Incarna somewhere and I'm pretty sure at least someone at CCP has a Mac that they use for EVE and can reproduce the issue. I've had this issue on ALL of my Macs and refuse to believe it's an uncommon issue.
I think what's really going on is either it's a very time consuming issue to solve and/or they are just not valuing the Mac user base very high. Either way, some clarification on what the status of this issue is would be most welcome, even if it's bad news. |
Quetz Alkoatl
The Scope
Gallente Federation
2
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Posted - 2014.07.20 19:59:00 -
[682] - Quote
At this point I'd take pretty much any news from DEVS. And i really mean ANY. Just to know that this issue has not been forgotten.
Quetz. |
Rezan Tepet
Partial Safety
0
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Posted - 2014.07.27 00:02:00 -
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I just kinda wanna check in. This is still happening to everyone else, right? Random freeze/lockup that results in a force-quit, that can happen as often as every 15-20 minutes, regardless of cleared cache/validated cache/etc?
I've scoured the forums and elsewhere looking for a solution, but nothing seems to be working and I just want to hear from the dark that I'm not alone.
I'm new here, just picked it up when it was on sale from Steam recently. Haven't had any problems with the launcher or sound that I've been seeing; it's literally just the freezing bug (I write that like it's a minor thing). |
Oxford Chan-Wei
Finyezi Resolution Services
0
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Posted - 2014.07.27 23:55:00 -
[684] - Quote
This has just begun happening to me this evening. Not sure if it's related to heat (possible issue as have been using Mac all day) or what but am getting pretty regular freezes where everything locks down except the mouse GÇô completely unresponsive and have to force quit the app and reboot.
Running EVE client (not via Steam), solo only no multi boxing.
Macbook Pro
2.3Ghz Intel Core i7
16GB Ram
OSX version 10.9.4
- cleared cache in-game (not via launcher), has not resolved issue.
- rebooted machine, has not resolved issue.
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Quetz Alkoatl
The Scope
Gallente Federation
2
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Posted - 2014.07.28 06:14:00 -
[685] - Quote
Rezan, it happens to some of Mac users AFAIK. It seems to be the issue with CIDER. For me, game freezes constantly, every 15-20 minutes thus making it impossible to play.
Other Mac users does not have this issue. It appears to be completely and utterly random. |
Oxford Chan-Wei
Finyezi Resolution Services
0
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Posted - 2014.07.28 16:54:00 -
[686] - Quote
I emptied cache from launcher and fingers crossed that seems to have solved the issue so far.
If you don't know how to do that:
Open EVE Launcher
Click Cog Wheel in top right
Navigate to Cache tab
'Clear all cached date' click Clear
It will ask to restart launcher, click 'yes'
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Quetz Alkoatl
The Scope
Gallente Federation
2
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Posted - 2014.07.29 07:23:00 -
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Hello Oxford,
I have tried almost everything that has been suggested in this forum - nothing helped. I'm looking into the possibility to use Wine instead of official Mac client. Hopefully it will give the result I want - stable game-play with no freezing.
I'll finish work in a few hours and start nibbling Terminal and Xcode. If there will be any news I'll post them here.
Regards
Quetz. |
Oxford Chan-Wei
Finyezi Resolution Services
0
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Posted - 2014.07.29 12:28:00 -
[688] - Quote
For sure, I'm just going by what's worked for me. After deleting cache from launcher my client seems to have had no problems at all.
Hope you can resolve your issue! |
Rezan Tepet
Partial Safety
0
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Posted - 2014.07.29 13:29:00 -
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I've tried using Wine, but as I'm not a programmer, I may have misstepped somewhere. It ran, but I couldn't use my Steam account so I started up a trial just to make sure the client would hold.
Surprisingly, it didn't. It actually felt like it performed slightly worse, with less FPS and my computer began to heat up in ways that the Mac client (through Steam) didn't. I also kept crashing, again, every 15-30 minutes.
That isn't to say the Wine fix doesn't work, just be sure you follow the steps very carefully; plan out the entire thing and make sure you read all of the directions, not just the step titles.
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As for deleting the cache, that was the first thing I tried. Steam has an option where you can validate the game cache. This actually worked best, but it often resulted in the launcher having to validate the client to the tune of about 20-30 minutes each time I wanted to do this (just clearing the cache in the method described resulted in about a 5-minute "mini-patch?" or some such that the launcher had to download or check). After doing so, the game would run for about 1-1.5 hours before the next crash, at which point, if the cache went uncleared, it would be back to the 15-20 minute crashes.
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I'm trying something different. After scouring the forums, I noticed that for some of us, the problem is related to places of high traffic; one user mentioned that it happened to their low/high sec character, but not null-sec. For me, I began to notice that warping a great deal (8-16 jump paths) significantly increased the likelihood of a crash (to be honest, I don't think my game has ever survived in one go a path that was 8+ jumps).
So, I'm wondering if it's a memory issue, and I've got some RAM upgrades ordered and on their way. Another user mentioned that a recent client update increased the memory usage; so I'm wondering if 4gb is just not cutting it anymore in places of high traffic. I'm no computer whiz, so if those two issues are entirely unrelated...well, I'm still going to upgrade my RAM anyways, but that doesn't mean anyone else has to. |
Dersen Lowery
Narwhals Ate My Duck.
Narwhals Ate My Duck
1176
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Posted - 2014.07.29 15:16:00 -
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Rezan Tepet wrote:So, I'm wondering if it's a memory issue, and I've got some RAM upgrades ordered and on their way. Another user mentioned that a recent client update increased the memory usage; so I'm wondering if 4gb is just not cutting it anymore in places of high traffic. I'm no computer whiz, so if those two issues are entirely unrelated...well, I'm still going to upgrade my RAM anyways, but that doesn't mean anyone else has to.
My personal experience bears that out: my client became much more stable when I upgraded RAM for 4GB, which really is barely sufficient.
I suspect that the Mac client still leaks memory, though I haven't yet tried running it under the watchful eye of a profiler.
Proud founder and member of the Belligerent Desirables. |
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